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date:         sat, 30 sep 2000 17:00:19 -0700
reply-to:     "kirsten l. m. jorgenson" <haggis_burger@yahoo.com>
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subject:      sedona concert
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hi, all.  i'm going to see the girls in sedona and was wondering
if any of y'all from phoenix (or better yet, tucson - where i
live) are going and could i bum a ride?  <sheepish grin>  i've
searched and searched for transport and though i found a good
way to get there, the round trip will cost more than $100!  ick.
so, if you wouldn't mind taking someone else along with you,
i'm you're woman.  i can easily help pay for gas and
what-have-you it's just that $100 sounded a bit too much.
anyway, i'm rambling.  thanks much in advance.

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date:         sat, 30 sep 2000 20:24:03 -0500
reply-to:     wilfred pennington <unclwil@midwest.net>
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hey all,
i got my entertainment weekly today with the cover story on "gay hollywood
2000" and the issue also includes "coming out soon, a preview of gay-themed
and gay-friendly movies, television shows, cds and plays, and it mentions
the ig retrospective briefly, which i thought was pretty cool. the issue
looks fairly well put together and includes a panel interview with gay
directors kevin williamson, scream; kimberly pierce, boys don't cry; bill
condon, gods and monsters; and greg berlanti, the broken hearts club. all
in all, the issue has six or seven stories on the cover theme, from "why is
hip hop so homophobic" to "101 movers and shakers, yep, they're gay" it
seemed pretty cool for a "mainstream" magazine to focus on some of these
topics, and i thought it might be a worth a look for some of the group
members.
have a good sunday,
michelle

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date:         sun, 1 oct 2000 02:30:42 -0400
reply-to:     don richards <donrich@neo.rr.com>
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subject:      re: columbus???
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that would be michelle malone. see ya there! :)

tomboy1969@cswebmail.com wrote:
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> hey y'all i just realized i will be driving right thru columbus on the 21st (coming from the indiana show!) and was wondering if anyone knew who was opening, as i might just have to stay for that show too!
> thanks!
> d:)
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date:         sun, 1 oct 2000 01:54:39 -0700
reply-to:     wherever <wherever@primenet.com>
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at 05:00 pm 9/30/2000 -0700, kirsten l. m. jorgenson wrote:
>hi, all.  i'm going to see the girls in sedona and was wondering
>if any of y'all from phoenix (or better yet, tucson - where i
>live) are going and could i bum a ride?  <sheepish grin>  i've
>searched and searched for transport and though i found a good
>way to get there, the round trip will cost more than $100!  ick.
>  so, if you wouldn't mind taking someone else along with you,
>i'm you're woman.  i can easily help pay for gas and
>what-have-you it's just that $100 sounded a bit too much.
>anyway, i'm rambling.  thanks much in advance.

i'm not going to the sedona show - it's a festival with many bands and
i didn't really want to travel that far for just a few songs (anyway i'm
going to be out of town seeing another band, actually - i know, blasphemy)
but i was actually considering seeing the window rock show, figured
they might play a full set there, even if i have to put up with jackson
browne (bleccch) so maybe we could hook up for that? i live in
phoenix...

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date:         sun, 1 oct 2000 08:27:14 edt
reply-to:     shannon mast <shannonmast@hotmail.com>
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from:         shannon mast <shannonmast@hotmail.com>
subject:      re: columbus???
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bethany and i just got tickets for the newport show!! see you all there!

shannon


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from: don richards <donrich@neo.rr.com>
reply-to: don richards <donrich@neo.rr.com>
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subject: re: columbus???
date: sun, 1 oct 2000 02:30:42 -0400

that would be michelle malone. see ya there! :)

tomboy1969@cswebmail.com wrote:
>
> hey y'all i just realized i will be driving right thru columbus on the
21st (coming from the indiana show!) and was wondering if anyone knew who
was opening, as i might just have to stay for that show too!
> thanks!
> d:)
>
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date:         sat, 30 sep 2000 17:48:05 -0600
reply-to:     carolyn <underdog@earthlink.net>
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subject:      lifeblood:  help!
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in early august i lost access to the data source i have been using to get a
lot of the articles for the lifeblood site. if you would like to submit
individual articles, or if you have access to a large source such as
lexus-nexis or
dow jones interactive, please contact me as i could really use your help
getting new articles to add to
the site. even if there is only a small mention of the indigo girls, the
articles often proved to be really
interesting. thanks very much!

site news:  i have been taking a break from working on the site for a bit,
but have saved everything i have been sent and will be adding it over the
next couple of weeks.  thanks to everyone for their support of the site, it
would not be what it is without your help.

thanks again and have a super day,

carolyn

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date:         sun, 1 oct 2000 12:57:48 -0400
reply-to:     don richards <donrich@neo.rr.com>
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subject:      re: columbus???
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i feel a list meet coming on! :)

yay shannon & bethany! it'll be really great to see you guys again. barb
& twink and peg & d & i got ours (well, ... ordered them anyway :)
yesterday.

  see ya,

shannon mast wrote:
>
> bethany and i just got tickets for the newport show!! see you all there!
>
> shannon


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date:         sun, 1 oct 2000 10:26:51 -0700
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hey guys go to gogirlsmusic.com and read my review of 6x's first cd this month!
also, there is  a great interview with patty larkin

later-d:)


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date:         sun, 1 oct 2000 18:34:48 +0100
reply-to:     john bond <john.bond@lineone.net>
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from:         john bond <john.bond@lineone.net>
subject:      new ig song
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hey,

can somebody send me the web addy for the new "hope" song? i've been =
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any sign as to where the song was...

thanks,

john.


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date:         sun, 1 oct 2000 11:32:08 -0700
reply-to:     celeste kennelly <celestefullykleen@yahoo.com>
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did anyone else see that? it was on saturday at about
1:00 eastern time...she was talking about that
abortion pill that everyone's talking about lately. i
couldn't really tell you a whole lot about what she
said, but i thought it was pretty cool to see her:)

pax, celeste


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date:         sun, 1 oct 2000 19:28:01 gmt
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hey ya'll,

could somebody tell me how i can get tickets to the columbus show?  are they
available at ticketbastard or do i have to order them from the concert hall?
  i'd like to surprise my grrlfriend in cincinnati with tickets...
:d

thanks!

rugbygrrl


>shannon mast wrote:
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> > bethany and i just got tickets for the newport show!! see you all >
>there!

> > shannon

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date:         sun, 1 oct 2000 15:48:59 edt
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hi all,

i'm a 21-year old singer/songwriter who has been heavily influenced by the
indigo girls.  are any of you musicians who have been influenced by them as
well & have music on the web?  if so, i'd love to listen.  i also welcome
feedback from non-musicians.

you can see & hear me at:
http://www.mp3.com/ajolly

take care,

angelyn j.
http://www.mp3.com/ajolly
pnj@aol.com

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date:         sun, 1 oct 2000 15:58:15 edt
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hiya kind friends far and near- i was writing to see if
1. anyone has a copy of the asheville, nc boot from last year or
2. if #1 is a negative, im really looking for a good quality boot of a show
where emily plays philosophy of loss as a solo, just her and her guitar....
thanks for reading-
peace,
et

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date:         sun, 1 oct 2000 14:27:34 -0600
reply-to:     carrie shafer <carebear@zianet.com>
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hey, everybody...
the girls are the whole reason i learned to play about 10 years ago.
check out the results if you wish...

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/138/carrie_shafer.html

a jolly wrote:

> hi all,
>
> i'm a 21-year old singer/songwriter who has been heavily influenced by the
> indigo girls.  are any of you musicians who have been influenced by them as
> well & have music on the web?  if so, i'd love to listen.  i also welcome
> feedback from non-musicians.
>
> you can see & hear me at:
> http://www.mp3.com/ajolly
>
> take care,
>
> angelyn j.
> http://www.mp3.com/ajolly
> pnj@aol.com
>
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date:         sun, 1 oct 2000 18:34:08 -0600
reply-to:     "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
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hey y'all,

i'm back home for a grand total of about 18 hours before heading out for
gt. falls, so i thought i'd give y'all a brief review, albeit
incomplete. here's the incomplete setlist (from the girls set only). this
is all i could remember off the top of my head (and in no particular
order).

galileo
shame on you
get out the map
point hope (which, by the way, will be available at indigogirls.com in 'a
        couple weeks', according to amy. you gotta pay for it, has that
        been mentioned? another source said it was $3.60, but i have yet
        to verify and all the proceeds, of course, go to hte)
leaving (em's new song)
closer to fine
peace tonight
gone again

indigenous opened. i thought they were great, if not a little loud. i
don't mean to sound like a fuddy-duddy, but i went expecting acoustic and
forgot about them. but, i fashioned some makeshift earplugs and it was
fine.

then, a&e came on, looking radiant as always. granted, those recent pics
of amy make her look a bit thin and, perhaps, pale, but allow me to
reassure you, she looks just fine in person. she was dancing around on the
stage just like always, and i think the fiery look she gave the sound guy
when she was trying to get her mic turned up was what assured me. she's
definitely doing fine. sadly, all the attempts to get the crowd into it
were lost. not even any singing along during galileo. i must say, i hope
the next crowds are a little more participatory.

after their set, they brought on joan baez who sang "there but for
fortune" (sorry if that's not the right title) and an a capella
spiritual. she's amazing. then, she sang world falls and don't think
twice... with the girls. too cool.

short intermission. they showed a short video, had four (i think) very
brief speakers and on came bonnie, who rocked the house. although,
unfortunately, i remember even less of her setlist. she did sing louise,
which is what i was waiting for. not to mention dimming of the day. and
brought on the special surprise guest of the evening, cris williamson, who
sang louise with bonnie and another song i can't recall the name of by
herself. and the big encore was joan, the girls, cris williamson, and
bonnie doing angel from montgomery. phenomenal.

after the show, everyone just seemed like they wanted to get on the buses
on move on. besides that, it was pouring. joan came out first and just got
on the bus. as did bonnie (carrying a big old garbage bag to protect that
awesome red shock of hair). when the girls came out, emily got on the
bus, but amy stopped briefly to sign a couple of autographs (not the least
of which was *my* program). woo hoo! and she got into a white pickup with
some other people, so i have no idea where she was going. but, that is
pretty much all my little memory can bring up at this point. all in all,
besides a pronounced lack of audience participation, it was a fabulous
show and i can't wait for the next ones. sadly, don't expect reviews from
me as i won't have access to e-mail until wed.

talk to y'all then,
amy m.

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date:         sun, 1 oct 2000 21:55:03 -0400
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i'm a 29 year-old singer/songwriter-type who was influenced by the girls as
well as many other artists. i don't have any songs online (yet) but if
anyone is ever up in the farmington, maine area, you should look out for my
current band, which is either named special shoes (as in that girl kicks so
much ass she needs special shoes) or your momma's panties, depending on how
playful we are feeling.
    you know, i never hear kris delmhorst mentioned on this list...those of
you in the boston area ought to be familiar with her. if not, check her
out! http://www.krisdelmhorst.com
sharon

at 03:48 pm 10/1/00 -0400, a jolly wrote:
>hi all,
>
>i'm a 21-year old singer/songwriter who has been heavily influenced by the
>indigo girls.  are any of you musicians who have been influenced by them as
>well & have music on the web?  if so, i'd love to listen.  i also welcome
>feedback from non-musicians.
>
>you can see & hear me at:
>http://www.mp3.com/ajolly
>
>take care,
>
>angelyn j.
>http://www.mp3.com/ajolly
>pnj@aol.com

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date:         sun, 1 oct 2000 22:44:36 edt
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hey there,
i have not posted in a very long time but i have something on my mind and can
use the good advise of such nice sweet people as yourselves.
my girlfriend of four years and i broke up this weekend.  i am completely
devastated.  we have not gotten along the past few months and i have wanted
to work on it at all costs and she has the attitude that life is too short
and if you have to work at a relationship that hard than it is not worth it.
my sweet little happy aquarius girl. :)
and me being my responsible capricorn self am willing to do anything that it
takes and had a million different plans to accomplish it all.  i feel that as
long as there is still love that its workable i guess. and i love her more
than i have ever loved anyone in my life.  we fit together like a perfect
puzzle, and 4 years later i still get a smile on my face when i think of her
and i still felt the butterflies when we kissed! i have never felt that
before. and i just found out that the main reason why she is unwilling to
work things out is because she has for the past month been cheating on me
with my ex best friend (who is not even gay & will probably hurt her but
that's another story).

sooo to get on with my indigo content to the whole story..... any time i have
seen the girls in concert has been with my ex.  we listened to the music
together and songs have special meaning to us ya know.....  and now i feel as
though i can never listen to them again or go to another concert without
feeling crushed and like there was something missing there.  and i was
wondering if any of you have ever experienced that? and if you have... how in
the hell do you get through it and continue to listen to the girls without it
feeling like your grieving the death of the love of your life each and every
time?
i am hoping that someone has some good wise words cuz i am missing my music,
allthough not quite like i miss my girlfriend. :(
take care
tina

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date:         sun, 1 oct 2000 23:58:55 -0400
reply-to:     havanamoon <missing_lynx@email.msn.com>
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              arprentiss@juno.com, deb woodell <woodelldc@aol.com>,
              jessica grant <jessicagrant@netscape.net>,
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for what it's worth....

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subject: [indiegrrl] rumor from reliable source...


this was forwarded to me from a very trusted pal of mine deep within the
music industry who is very well known, trusted and respected by most anyone
that knows him so with that said, check it out... makes you think and i
advice forwarding this on to as many people as you can!

xo melyssa

> the following came from someone whom, i believe,
> wouldn't have sent it to me unless they believed it
> at least credible.  could also be democratic
> speculation and a pre-emptive effort.  judge for
> yourself:
>
> > i just heard a rumor from a good source. the
> > republican party is feeling that cheney is a
> > liability
> > on the ticket.  there's a rumor that a few weeks
> > prior
> > to the election in a desperate attempt to win,
> > cheney
> > will resign because of  a trumped-up heart problem
> > or
> > potential "threat to his health."  then either john
> > mccain or colin powell will be asked to come on the
> > ticket and save the party. this move is afoot in
> > top circles and to try to squelch it please send
> > this
> > letter to as many people as you can.  if we get the
> > rumor out on the internet, they won't be able to do
> > their calculated move without repercussions.

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hey y'all.......i just was reading the sunday paper yes at 12:30 am....and i
noticed in my "best buy" add (best buy is a music/appliance store here i
don't know of they are everywhere) and listed in color on the page with the
other cd's is..drum roll please......the ig retrospective!!! and i was like
yay!!!!!! so needless to say when it is released on tues. i will be there
with bells on to get it! :) welp, just thought i'd share.....take care y'all!

mandy

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own compost heap and i'm getting used to the smell" ---ani difranco

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guys and gals,

i'm just going to throw this up for discussion.  when amy says, "and there's
a faggot bashing poetry," in "lucy stoners", i mean i fucking cringe.  maybe
because it's so bitter.  and mean.  what do you all think?

scott

ps:  no, i don't think amy is a piece of shit for saying it.  i also am not
arguing against her right to say it.  i would like to know the situation
that led her to write such a line.


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randomly."
--emily saliers, "philosophy of loss"

w. scott whitlock
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date:         mon, 2 oct 2000 05:46:40 -0700
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yeah, i pre-ordered it at artist direct and they sent me an email that
it shipped saturday!  woohoo!

jean


--- sass60876@aol.com wrote:
> hey y'all.......i just was reading the sunday paper yes at 12:30
> am....and i
> noticed in my "best buy" add (best buy is a music/appliance store
> here i
> don't know of they are everywhere) and listed in color on the page
> with the
> other cd's is..drum roll please......the ig retrospective!!! and i
> was like
> yay!!!!!! so needless to say when it is released on tues. i will be
> there
> with bells on to get it! :) welp, just thought i'd share.....take
> care y'all!
>
>
>
> mandy
>
> "i've built my own empire out of car tires and chicken wire, i'm
> queen of my
> own compost heap and i'm getting used to the smell" ---ani difranco
>
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october 2
chikenman4@aol.com (lauryn)

october 2, 1975
msinghaus@msmisp.com- missy

october 3
ljusko@netexp.net (lori jusko)

october 3 ('68)
u_posa@venus.twu.edu (monique posa)

october 3
deb.radziewicz@unisys.com (deb)

october 5th (1975)
holeman@cats.ucsc.edu(leslie)

october 6
bartap@law.georgetown.edu (peter a. barta)
"whoever rescues a single soul from the children of man, scripture
credits him as if he had saved a whole universe."
- mishnah, sanhedrin 4:5
"i want to live as an honest man,
to get all i deserve and to give all i can,
and to love a young woman that i don't understand..."
- suzanne vega

october 8 ('77)
mweiss@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (michelle rena weiss)


happy birthday all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

love and peace tonight :)
audra
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it doesn't surprise me a bit that there is a
special live cd (that features a few songs) from the july 28th house of blues show being offered to
certain buyers of ig cd's.

i was at that show on the sunset strip in the
los angeles area and i believe that was the
best i've ever heard them sound at a live show,
and i've seen them live in l.a. several times over
the years.

i will ask again, is there anyone who has a boot
from that show? i would love a boot from the entire
performance if one is available!!

-scott

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anyone know where i can get this song?

thanks!
kim

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perhaps you misunderstood the line. it's not "there's a faggot bashing
poetry..." it is "...faggot-bashing poetry..." she's saying some jerks have
scrawled some homophobic poetry on the walls (faggot-bashing).

in other words, she is not calling someone a faggot and saying that they are
bashing poetry. :-)

so, unless you simply object to the use of the word "faggot" in general, i'd
say you're cringing for no reason.

peace!


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date: mon, 2 oct 2000 01:34:02 -0500

guys and gals,

i'm just going to throw this up for discussion.  when amy says, "and there's
a faggot bashing poetry," in "lucy stoners", i mean i fucking cringe.  maybe
because it's so bitter.  and mean.  what do you all think?

scott

ps:  no, i don't think amy is a piece of shit for saying it.  i also am not
arguing against her right to say it.  i would like to know the situation
that led her to write such a line.


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lurker98@hotmail.com writes:

> perhaps you misunderstood the line. it's not "there's a faggot bashing
>  poetry..." it is "...faggot-bashing poetry..." she's saying some jerks have
>  scrawled some homophobic poetry on the walls (faggot-bashing).
>
>  in other words, she is not calling someone a faggot and saying that they
are
>  bashing poetry.

i agree. i had to think about it for a couple of minutes to figure out what
she was saying..it really only makes sense as poetry that is "faggot
bashing."

the cornell show from april is pretty clear.

r.moe alter
kathleen

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no, i didn't misunderstand the line.  the line is "there's a faggot bashing
poetry."

she definitely says it.  and that's how it was published in those lyrics
that lisa posted to the list not too long ago.

and peace back to ya...

> perhaps you misunderstood the line. it's not "there's a faggot bashing
> poetry..." it is "...faggot-bashing poetry..." she's saying some jerks
have
> scrawled some homophobic poetry on the walls (faggot-bashing).

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yeah, i can understand that.  it does make more sense.  especially with the
giving themselves away with every hate-filled phrase.  from what i can
understand, also, the song is an attack at jann wenner, the now
out-of-the-closet rolling stone publisher.  so the line could be taken two
different ways, "there's a faggot bashing poetry" and "there's
faggot-bashing poetry".  who knows.  i would hope that amy wouldn't go so
low as to take that attack route (and something tells me she wouldn't :).

anyway, i like this discussion.  seems we don't discuss anymore on here...:)

scott


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attention napster users!  i have some new goodies in my files.  do a search
for amy ray or look for me--sigmagrrl.  i don't have anywhere to store mp3
files for downloading.  sorry.

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sheryl jones wrote:
>
> attention napster users!  i have some new goodies in my files

didn't a recent ruling outlaw the use of napster (or somethinglike
that)?  i'm confused as to how/why people still use it.  i thought it
was shut down and removed from the internet, or something. . . .  i'm
really not techno savvy about these things, so please excuse my
ignorance.  so, what's up with napster?

elaine

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hey all,

when i listen to the song, i also hear "faggot bashing poetry"  not *a*
faggott bashing poetry.  but then again, i have the song this low quality
boots mix (fan made, obviously) tape (which i will not trade just because the
sound quality sucks!).  so i could be wrong.  but i can also see being a bit
insulted upon hearing the line for the first time.  i still cringe when an
african-american uses the n word (and trust me, i hear this a lot.  my best
friend loves that type of music) in a song.  i am just so molded to think of
such vocabulary as degrading that it is hard to think otherwise.  but yeah,
in the context of  lucy stoner, and after taking a few more listens, i do
agree that the word is not misused.

and now (i was going to aska while ago, but since this topic is being
discussed now. . .) does anyone have a good recording of lucy stoner?  i have
a large collection ( http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/indigodar  -- i am about to
update it! ) of boots to trade.

thanks!

:-) karen

http://www.geocities.com/karen_rosenblum

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might the faggot-bashing bit also have something to do with that eminem guy
and the big scandal about his gay-bashing lyrics?  isn't the song about
rolling stone?  (that's a real question... i haven't read the lyrics
carefully or heard it...)

anyone?

chris ii

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napster.com is alive and kicking for now.  simply go to
http://www.napster.com, download the software and you're good to go.  even a
non-techie can figure it out.  feel free to email me directly if you have
any questions.

gayle o'connor mailto:bodybuilder@cybersleuther.com

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sheryl jones wrote:
>
> attention napster users!  i have some new goodies in my files

didn't a recent ruling outlaw the use of napster (or somethinglike
that)?  i'm confused as to how/why people still use it.  i thought it
was shut down and removed from the internet, or something. . . .  i'm
really not techno savvy about these things, so please excuse my
ignorance.  so, what's up with napster?

elaine

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date:         mon, 2 oct 2000 17:41:25 -0400
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i have the file for download at my site:
http://brianclary.com
it is in the mailing list section

also, at the charlotte daemon show, amy explained that the song was in reference to feminist lucy stone.  people in her footsteps were called lucy stoners.  more info about lucy can be found here:
http://www.greatwomen.org/stone.htm

later' y'all

brian  :)

indigokare@aol.com wrote:
> hey all,

when i listen to the song, i also hear "faggot bashing poetry"  not *a*
faggott bashing poetry.  but then again, i have the song this low quality
boots mix (fan made, obviously) tape (which i will not trade just because the
sound quality sucks!).  so i could be wrong.  but i can also see being a bit
insulted upon hearing the line for the first time.  i still cringe when an
african-american uses the n word (and trust me, i hear this a lot.  my best
friend loves that type of music) in a song.  i am just so molded to think of
such vocabulary as degrading that it is hard to think otherwise.  but yeah,
in the context of  lucy stoner, and after taking a few more listens, i do
agree that the word is not misused.

and now (i was going to aska while ago, but since this topic is being
discussed now. . .) does anyone have a good recording of lucy stoner?  i have
a large collection ( http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/indigodar  -- i am about to
update it! ) of boots to trade.

thanks!

:-) karen

http://www.geocities.com/karen_rosenblum

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date:         mon, 2 oct 2000 18:27:54 -0400
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hey,
does anyone know of any good alternatives to napster?  my school has a firewall against it.
thanks,
marijane
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first come first serve
all prices do not include small fee for postage
please respond to larsac31@hotmail.com
thanks

1) melissa etheridge official t-shirt
   1994, black, picture of her w/guitar on front
   w/ her "symbol" (m.e.), "yes i am" (both on front)
   "speak true" and m.e. symbol on back...new - $15

2) ellen james society - "reluctantly we"
   sealed cd... $8

3) 1997 lilith fair natural-colored t-shirt
   lilith figure/designs on front
   list of all tour performers on back...new - $15

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i have a leather guitar strap, autographed by both amy and emily.

anyone interested?

e-me privately at  atlmouse@aol.com

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as the person who first posted the lyrics that seem to be causing some
confusion.............  please remember that this is still an unpublished
song.  i have heard this song live 4 different times, and each time has been
a little bit different.   until amy puts out her solo cd next year, i
wouldn't hold her to any specific version.   but, that said, i'm also pretty
sure you can interpret it as 'faggot-bashing poetry', not "a faggot bashing
poetry".   read the rest of the lyrics, and it's pretty obvious what she
means.

re:  hte.............  you might want to check out the hte site.  there's
already a photo and a short quicktime video up there from the show yesterday
in montana.   and if you had problems with the bury my heart video - try it
again - it seems to be working now, and this is different than the video that
has been seen before on vh-1.   i think it's part of the hte documentary that
one day will be available (i don't know anything about it - i just remember
reading about it on the hte site a while ago.......)

and don't forget the new retrospective is coming out tomorrow.  i've heard
the new songs, and seen the liner notes - they are really worth it!    there
are some great new/old photos, and hand written notes from the girls about
each song.    and if you're near a tower records, they will have an exclusive
live cd with purchase.  this is available online as well.

=)
lisa

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hello all :)
okay, i finally preordered retrospective from towers online, and nothing was
mentioned about this little extra promotional offer.  any details on that?
does this mean i am not getting the extra live cd?  seems there would have
been mention of it...
:(
april

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from the latest issue of spin magazine (which see for descrips)

napster clones:

notoctavian.tripod.com
gnutella.wego.com
metallicster.org
divx.ctw.cc
www.bigredh.com
vqf.com/mp7
freenet.sourceforge.net

marijane ritter wrote:

> hey,
> does anyone know of any good alternatives to napster?  my school has a firewall against it.
> thanks,
> marijane
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i pre ordered this and it is indeed great to read these liner notes.  i
also pre ordered the old cds with the new liner notes.  i also ordered
the live at the fillmore.  i'm swimming in indigo y'all.  just in case
you're wondering, the indigos are my favorite.  can you tell?

on mon, 2 oct 2000 05:46:40 -0700 jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com>
writes:
> yeah, i pre-ordered it at artist direct and they sent me an email
> that
> it shipped saturday!  woohoo!
>
> jean
>
>
> --- sass60876@aol.com wrote:
> > hey y'all.......i just was reading the sunday paper yes at 12:30
> > am....and i
> > noticed in my "best buy" add (best buy is a music/appliance store
> > here i
> > don't know of they are everywhere) and listed in color on the page
> > with the
> > other cd's is..drum roll please......the ig retrospective!!! and i
> > was like
> > yay!!!!!! so needless to say when it is released on tues. i will
> be
> > there
> > with bells on to get it! :) welp, just thought i'd share.....take
> > care y'all!
> >
> >
> >
> > mandy
> >
> > "i've built my own empire out of car tires and chicken wire, i'm
> > queen of my
> > own compost heap and i'm getting used to the smell" ---ani
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hey all,

i pre-ordered my retrospective and the 4 remastered cds and i got them all
today!!!!!!!!!!!  woo hoo how exciting.  on top of that i had my first
guitar lesson today.

just had to share

traci drago
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<<okay, i finally preordered retrospective from towers online, and nothing
was mentioned about this little extra promotional offer.  any details on
that?>>

i've heard nothing officially, but here might be a clue:
exclusive indigo girls sampler
release date:
desc: promotional item
cd - $.00
http://www.towerrecords.com/product.asp?pfid=2144518

i went ahead and ordered it just for fun. at $2.99 inc. postage, it'll be a
steal if it works!!

<<does this mean i am not getting the extra live cd?>>

probably not (there's no doubt some elaborate mating ritual you're supposed
to go through), but a nice email to the customer service, explaining what
you really wanted might work wonders.

<<seems there would have been mention of it...>>

you'd think that, wouldn't you??
i'm just gonna wait a few days, check online, maybe take a trip past my
local bricks 'n' mortar tower - see what i can scope out...

good luck and all...

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anyone truly interested in this topic should run out and buy the wired issue with the black cover and a kind of
strange american flag on the cover.  it's probably the october issue.  anyway, a huge section is devoted to the
internet and copyright law and the intersection of the two, including an article by john perry barlow, former
lyricisit for the grateful dead and one of the founders of eff.

anyway, it's got quite the resource list for software you will want to know about if you're getting into the whole
digital music thing.  it's worth picking up, believe me.

-graham

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ok y'all i gotta tell you that this cd rocks.  i mean i will admit that i
have had the privledge to see the girls sound check like 4 or 5 times and all
of those times amy played a song which i loved but no one knew what it
was...i asked the sound guy over and over and he had no idea...i will tell
you that it is my great delight to tell you that that song is devotion...for
those of you not privledged enough to have that cd yet...you will love the
new amy song..i have listened to it so many times i haven't gotten to leaving
yet.  sigh...it's like midnight and i just got home and just got my
package..and there is no way i'll ever be able to go to sleep...but life is
good..

carla :o)

"there i am in younger days stargazing painting picture perfect maps of how
my life and love would be. not counting the unmarked paths of misdirection,
my compass faith in loves perfection.  i missed ten million miles of road i
should've seen"  -e. s.

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i'm sitting here listening to this retrospective cd, really just the last
two songs, over and over again.  i'm sad.  i almost think the indigo era
is over.  i don't like this cd.  it makes me sad.  i really don't know
what to say about it.  oh well.  time for some j. hatfield.

by the way, i think i'm in love with emily saliers?  she really is
beautiful, isn't she?

really going sleep now. bye bye.

-chee
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hey ,

scott's right!

i wanna talk about the messages of life and love that the indigo girls sing
about!

how 'bout this one,

what is caramia about?

i would love a break down of the lyrics too, i love that stuff.

joe
brooklyn,ny

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regarding caramia:

(creative loafing 5/97) amy's turn came on "caramia," the swooning, arching
love song with the five violins, two violas and two cellos -- in fact, a
song whose harmonies were written by amy. but when they recorded it, emily
asked amy to do "things i wouldn't even think of, that wouldn't occur to me
to do," amy recalls. "she [said] to me, 'i think that note might not be
right, can you do this instead.' or, 'i think that might be a little too
harsh.' or, 'i didn't want your voice to stick out that much, can you try
singing back a little bit.'" but don't mistake this for a compromise:
"[emily] produces her own songs and i produce mine. we take direction from
each other. and there's a lot of things she challenged me on this time." and
vice-versa? "it's stuff that's inside us both but it's not what we would
naturally do."

(atlanta mag, 5/97) emily said, "['caramia' is] actually two songs that
were put together... i just came up with the opening chord riff and wrote
the song around it. it's two sections - one is about the relationship that's
totally screwed up, the other is from a dream that actually our bass player
sara lee had and told me about - and so i put the dream in with the other
reflections for the song, and it just came out as it is."


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hey ,

scott's right!

i wanna talk about the messages of life and love that the indigo girls sing
about!

how 'bout this one,

what is caramia about?

i would love a break down of the lyrics too, i love that stuff.

joe
brooklyn,ny

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hey kf,

whoever was asking about the npaster alternatives,

try http://www.scour.com/


it does the same type of stuff, not as good or as vast of a choice,
but worth checking out

good luck

joe
brooklyn,ny

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sarah:
<< now that you all know the entire contents of my library...... >>

hmm... sarah, you want to go out sometime?? ;)

i'm a bit behind on e-mail but a few people mentioned wanting boots of
leaving.. i have the sacramento and berkeley shows where they did leaving if
anyone wants a copy (on tape only).

:) lisa

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9/30/2000 shrine auditorium billings mt

get out the map
peace tonight
point hope
closer to fine
gone again
leaving
shame on you
galileo

[joan baez 2 songs]

don't think twice, it's all right (w/joan baez)
welcome me (w/joan)

[buncha bonnie raitt songs, including nick of time, louise, thing called
love - cris williamson in there also]

angel from montgomery (w/joan & bonnie raitt & cris williamson)

i'm really glad i went! met amym, saw ryan & breanna from seattle. it
was a great show but very different. the first ig show i've ever sat
down all the way through. carol isaacs was there to back up the
girls,(keyboards & accordion) but it was a very stripped down show. they
were talking about em's new song and how they had never done it 'like
this' before, then when they started playing, emily discovered her
guitar was tuned wrong. as she capo'd it amy explained that they use
different tunings and can't cheat by looking at each others guitars.

if i had known that the show would be so mellow [no dancing or singing]
i would have thought about booting it. they thanked us both times for
listening to the new songs. don't think twice w/joan baez was too
incredible for words: is this on any of those cd boots goin' round? (yah
i know, an earlier version!)
i don't care much for jb's cover of welcome me, so adding the ig's
helped a little but not enough.

amy pleads with the crowd to download and pay for point hope when it is
available. she says "i don't care about the other stuff, but this one is
for a good cause {paraphrased} so please pay for it!"

i had a great time, the music was very moving and i'm sure the people
around me (drunk) must have thought i was a strange case cause a lot of
the songs got me teared up a bit. all right so my neck was wet...

if i can't dance i might as well cry. not because i can't dance but
because their music moves me in a whole different way when i'm not
bopping around.

after i got home/ off the plane in seattle i was talking about the show
and two women overheard me and they went too! i thought i knew all the
seattle people crazy enough to travel 800+ miles for an ig show.

honor the earth-

paulal

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oh boy (girl)--i have not posted in a very long time and have actually been
unsubbed for awhile.  so please forgive me if this cd has been discussed ad
nauseum already.  chances are it hasn't been yet because it is scheduled
for release tuesday.  as luck would have it--preordering is the waaaaaay to
go.  cd arrived in today's mail before the official release.  ok forget the
first 14 songs--got em heard em analyzed em done with em.  song 15 and 16
however-new material!

i haven't enjoyed an ig song from first listen in like half a decade.
devotion is just yummy.  what's that i hear--acoustic guitars only?
what--a and e are singing together--wait they're....why yes.... they're
harmonizing!!  alas they have returned to me.  my girls have returned to
me.  praise the lord to whom our prauise is due now and forever...amen.

please let this be a sign of albums to come.  they promised me lighter less
produced music  (ok in their words an acoustic album) and these two ditties
fit the bill.  just hope they tide me over for the next year.  i sure do
hope they play em at hte in chicago.  very excited for that show now!
speaking of does anyone know who the woman with the last name humphries is
who is joining them on some hte dates?  nice seeing y'all again!  just had
to share my excitement.

greg

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being good friends with some of our computer staff at my school has its
advantages. if your school has somehow blocked you from getting napster,
it's not a good idea to go out looking for alternatives. they usually don't
put these blocks up just to keep students out for copyright purposes.  they
do it because schools usually have little funding to pump into their
computer/network system and so programs like napster use up too much
bandwith and crash the system. that's why my school, the university of
maine at farmington, recently cut off student use of napster and other
related programs.
just some advice
sharon

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>hey,
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>firewall against it.
>thanks,
>marijane
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<<  the line is "there's a faggot bashing
poetry."

she definitely says it.  and that's how it was published in those lyrics
that lisa posted to the list not too long ago. >>

hmmm.. i don't think that's how i wrote it but i don't remember.. i think
it's definitely "there's faggot-bashing poetry" though.. or was this a
different lisa?? i know i posted some lyrics to something :p and i try to get
my hyphens right too.. anyway, amy is definitely saying they are rapping
homophobic shit...

i have a copy of the 7/28/00 hob show - not the 7/27/00 one.. where are they
giving away tracks from the hob 7/28 show?? i must have missed that one...

lisa

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> she really is
> beautiful, isn't she?

you can't be- *i'm* in love with her!

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ok, i need to let off some steam here, so bear with
me. i was just at ebay looking around and was so
sickened by it. does anyone else get really annoyed
when someone makes cd-rw's of rare ig songs and sells
them in dutch auctions for 20 bucks a pop or higher? i
mean, it's one thing to list your duplicate factory
made cds and see what happens, ig or otherwise, but to
make copies of rare songs/boots and profit from
it...it's just not right. and it's even more sickening
because when you list a cd for auction you have to
agree that what you are putting up is not a cd-rw.
yeah yeah, i could rat the person out and the auction
would end, but a)people have already bid on the stuff
so those people can still be contacted, and b)another
person would step up to bat and sell the cd-rw's too.
i think kathy bates said it best in fried green
tomatoes- we should machine-gun their genitals! pow!
pow! pow!

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hi...

we've been hear waaaay to many times and it's been done to death. i don't
think there's much new to be said, so if you'll allow me, i'll summerise:

<<does anyone else get really annoyed when someone makes cd-rw's of rare ig
songs and sells them in dutch auctions for 20 bucks a pop or higher?>>

yes.

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lisa wrote:

<<i'm a bit behind on e-mail but a few people mentioned wanting boots of
leaving.. i have the sacramento and berkeley shows where they did leaving if
anyone wants a copy (on tape only).>>

i second that.  i have both boots as well.  if anyone wants a copy (trade and
i can do a few b&p's), just e-mail me!

:-) karen

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indigo girls, raitt, baez urge votes

.c the associated press

browning, mont. (ap) - as residents registered to vote in the november election, indigo girls, bonnie raitt and joan baez performed in the background.

the concert in a high school gymnasium on the blackfeet indian reservation was part of a tour promoters say is intended to stimulate voting by americans indians, and draw attention to environmental issues.

''my birthday is the day after election day, so make me happy - vote!'' raitt told about 800 people sunday before she began singing the blues.

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the singers have scheduled concerts at a number of indian reservations. the montana itinerary included stops at bozeman, missoula and the flathead reservation.

''i feel inspired,'' indigo girls member emily saliers said as she looked around the blackfeet reservation. ''i just feel the strength of what a community can accomplish when they come together in spite of all kinds of circumstances.''

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>>hmmm.. i don't think that's how i wrote it but i don't remember.. i
think it's definitely "there's faggot-bashing poetry" though.. or was
this a different lisa?? i know i posted some lyrics to something :p and
i try  to get my hyphens right too.. anyway, amy is definitely saying
they are rapping homophobic shit... <<

it was a different lisa :-)  (memememi@aol.com)  i saved those lyrics
too.  heh.

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don't forget to stop by the indigo girls official site.  you can check out
what amy has to say about her new song, "point hope f.i.o.a."  get the
details on how to purchase the download of this new song, the proceeds of
which are going to charity.  go to:
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hey, just wondering if anyone out there has the song nueva senorita on mp3.
if so i would really appreciate you sending it to me.  thanks so much!

mi rinda

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does any one have a copy of ig or ig w/ others covering "angel from
montgomery"? please email me privately - this song is very special to me,
thanks,
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on tue, 3 oct 2000, tamera mcnamara wrote:

> does any one have a copy of ig or ig w/ others covering "angel from
> montgomery"? please email me privately - this song is very special to me,
> thanks,

   have you heard the susan tedeschi version?  beautiful...

   darius

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as much as i love em, and i'm sure the ig could do a lovely version of
this, . . . but nobody, ever can outshine bonnie's version!!!  you know,
some versions just can't be improved on!  (of course, this is all a
matter of opinion, and we all know that the only opinion that's right is
your own  - only kidding, or am i?)  :)

actually, i'd love to hear the ig do this with bonnie.

elaine

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hey, thanks to whoever posted the tower records
web address.  i already pre-ordered the retrospective
through sam goody. i know, mucho bucks, but i had
a gift card so it was free for me. i can't wait to hear it.
i haven't heard leaving or devotion yet so that'll be an
extra treat for me.

i ordered rop through tower and the free cd (it's on
the bottom of the list). i'm not collecting all of them just
yet.  i have to wait until i get back from atlanta and new
york to see how the fund situation is - ya know what i
mean?

well, enjoy everybody
happy tuesday (oh goddess, it's only tuesday?)

c

p.s.  a friend of mine let me borrow her "live at great woods" video
this weekend (love, love, love it) and ya know what i discovered?  i'm
in it!!!  if you have it, watch galileo - after "now i have to pay".  the gal
in the green jacket and white t-shirt is me.  i look really goofy but very
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happy release day, y'all!

i just got back from buying my copy.  i bought it at borders.  i don't know
if this is true at all borders, but my borders had a special borders edition
of the cd.  basically, you get the whole retrospective cd and then a bonus cd
with acoustic versions of reunion and mystery and a live version of shame on
you.

i am waiting for indigo girls direct to send me my copy of the remastered
n*i*s (my all time favorite ig cd).  and i ordered the free cd and the
remastered copy of strange fire from tower.  i may buy the remastered
versions of indigo girls and rop, but as of now, i am not sure.  i'll wait to
see if i can tell the difference in sound when i get n*i*s and strange fire
(and if i find the liner notes intriguing. . .)

anyway, back to the retrospective.  i love leaving!  i have loved it ever
since i heard it at berkeley and got the berkeley and sacramento boots.  but
man, some of the lyrics i had thought emily was singing were so inaccurate!
anyway, the studio version is beautiful, but i always like to hear the
untweaked promo versions of songs as well.

ok, well back to studying and researching. . .

:-) karen

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<<i don't know if this is true at all borders, but my borders had a special
borders edition
of the cd.  basically, you get the whole retrospective cd and then a bonus
cd with acoustic versions of reunion and mystery and a live version of shame
on you.>>

all borders should have them. also available at borders.com
the acoustic versions are noted as 'previously unreleased' but they were, at
least in australia(!)
not sure where shame on you is from (please tell), but it might have been
out on a promo?

<<i ordered the free cd and the remastered copy of strange fire from
tower.>>

i don't seriously think that tower will send folks a free cd. i just
mentioned it 'cause i thought it was worth a try!

if anyone has more recording details about the bonus tracks / discs please
share!

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sorry for the non indi question everyone. my best friend just toally adores
ani difranco. her birthday is coming up in two weeks. i was wondering if
anyone has any ani bootlegs that they could copy for me. i have a couple
indigo boots i could trade but not many. i'll give ya money for making them
and everything. i just think she'd love that as a gift. any help would be
appreciated!

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in a message dated 10/03/2000 11:22:50 am eastern daylight time,
neil@andineil.com writes:

<< all borders should have them. also available at borders.com
the acoustic versions are noted as 'previously unreleased' but they were, at
least in australia(!) >>

ahhhh...that is where i heard mystery from, then (now this makes sense).
when i was in australia last winter (summer for them), i bought some random
ig cd that i had not seen in the us.  anyway, same version of mystery.

thanks, neil!

:-) karen

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the bonus from tower is from the hob july 28th show:

get out the map
andy
ozilline
gone again
wood song (studio acoustic)

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hey,

does anyone know what the deal is for the richmond, in show?  on friday the
20th, i'll be driving through richmond en route to the columbus show, so i
was thinking maybe i could catch that one as well.  but is it only open for
earlham students?

:-) karen

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greg,


big time post!!!!

good call!

i feel the same way. i wasn't even going to get the new cd, becuase i have
everysingle song on it, since i have all the cd's!

you are so right. make the return amy and emily! come back to why i fell in
love with you!

as a fan, i'm not asking for a comprimise!

joe
brooklyn,ny

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hi all -

i'm back and anxiously awaiting my retrospective... anyhow, just got a
call from the t-shirt vendor, and the shirts were shipped out to me
today. this means they should be here by the weekend, which means i can
make a good dent in the re-packaging and mailing out to y'all over the
weekend. keep in mind that i have something like 250 shirts to mail,
but i do hope to get it all done over the next two weekends.

i found last time that it only took about 3-4 days for the shirts to
reach you, so everyone in america should expect their shirts within the
next 3 weeks.

honestly, i'm not sure what the hold-up at the vendor was. they got the
shirts a week ago, but needed to verify my address, and of course,
couldn't get ahold of me by phone when i was in thailand. *rolling
eyes*

it's always something, isn't it?

ok, i've babbled enough and i'm severely jetlagged, so i'm very
doubtful this is making much sense.

love,
amy

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if anyone has any money left today *grin*...if you're a bowie fan from the old days, i really recommend the new 'bowie at the beeb'. there's a limited edition set with a third cd of his show from june 2000. now i remember why i loved him...

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hi everyone,

i've been a little too delete happy.. what is the
extra cd at tower? could someone please email me off
list or forward me the email about how to get it?


thanks,

joanne

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<<i've been a little too delete happy.. what is the extra cd at tower? could
someone please email me off list or forward me the email about how to get
it?>>

i figured i'd reply to the list because i got some new info that i hadn't
seen posted:

"this item is a free sampler.  however, you must buy two indigo girls cds on
the epic label to receive the option of placing the free indigo girls
sampler in your shopping bag."

here's the url for the sampler. you can also find it, as well as the other
reissues, by doing an 'indigo girls' search.
http://www.towerrecords.com/product.asp?pfid=2144518

i guess folks that have placed orders for just one cd + the bonus should
call or email customer service, and i'm sure they'll be helped out...

plus!! you'll get $5 off if you enter this coupon code: uk105

enjoy!

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hey,
is the bonus cd that comes with the retrospective
album available at any other store?  does anyone know?
there's not a borders or a tower records anywhere
near here.  there's manifest and i think sam goody,
and then a bunch of stores like best buy that sells
cd's, but that's about it.  i'd really like to get the
bonus cd with the live versions on it.  any help is
really appreciated!!  oh, and i really don't have the
money to pay for shipping from buying it online,
unless this is the only place it comes with the bonus
cd...

thanks,
sharon :-)

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there are many napster alternatives. a lot of
programmer type geeks are as paranoid as the rest of
us that napster will be shut down. also, if you are in
a place where the napster server has eben directly
blocked, it takes less than a minute to get around it.


later,
julie :);):)

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p.s. check out kinnie starr <www.kinniestarr.com>. you
will thank me for it later.


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> whoever was asking about the npaster alternatives,
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> try http://www.scour.com/
>
>
> it does the same type of stuff, not as good or as
> vast of a choice,
> but worth checking out
>
> good luck
>
> joe
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hello again...i don't really want this to be a disscussion on the list,
but since its close to an election, i thought i'd post this. if there
are g.w. bush supporters on this list, i hope this doesn't offend
anyone. im sure mr. bush is a very nice person, but his politcs really
want me to throw up. i just thought id share this news tid bit. if
anyone wants to discuss this w/ me, feel free to email me privately. our
girls are the first to say knowledge is power, and their involvement in
gun control is so prevelant , so i figured i'd post this! have a
wonderful day!

cara

           washington (ap) - more than 400 people were issued licenses
to carry concealed guns in
           texas despite prior convictions under a law gov. george w.
bush, the republican presidential
           nominee, signed in 1995, saying it would make the state "a
safer place." those prior convictions
           include rape, armed robbery and histories of violence,
psychological disorders and drug or alcohol
           problems, the los angeles times reported. some 215,000 texans
are licensed to carry concealed
           weapons. and more than 3,000 of them have been arrested for
crimes that include double murder
           and drunken driving. see full story

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yes, but you all keep overlooking the fact that schools block these
programs because the use of napster and other related services crash
their internet services or make it extremely difficult for people like
me to do research online for school, or to work online, which i also do
for our school.
sharon

julie libes wrote:
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> there are many napster alternatives. a lot of
> programmer type geeks are as paranoid as the rest of
> us that napster will be shut down. also, if you are in
> a place where the napster server has eben directly
> blocked, it takes less than a minute to get around it.
>
> later,
> julie :);):)
>
> aol instant messenger <julielibes>
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oh my god ! ! i feel like i'm in heaven -- are
those angels singing?  why, yes, i believe i
heard some beautiful harmony on that cd.

i love both of the new songs.  i think leaving
is my favorite. kind of makes me feel a little
sad for that special someone and the family and
friends she has to leave behind.

i never realized how much i missed the early years
with just the girls, their guitars, and their unforgetable
harmonies (and a little base & drum in the background)
until i heard those songs.  i'm really looking forward to
next year's new release.  on the whole, the entire collection
is wonderful.

i think this is the first time i've ever read on this list that
people are in love with emily and not amy.  can't say i'd
blame you for picking either one.  for me, it's a special
friendship/sisterhood thing that i know i will never let go of and
i'm sure you all feel the same way.

well, back to work
c

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ok so i've ordered the new cd's from ig direct and i've never ordered from
there before (at least, not to my knowledge, although my screen name was
taken...) anyway, has anyone ordered all the new stuff and received it yet??
when i placed the order yesterday everything was still labeled as preorder...

at least the remastered cd's are cheap :p
lisa

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i must say that the new emily song "leaving" is really sad but i love it.
it is like she is caught between a rock and a hard place.  she wants to go
travel to sing it's what she does and what she knows, but she hates to leave
home at the same time.  that must be one strong relationship she is in.  i
wish her all of the luck that every time she returns her love is still there
for her.

sappy, but oh well, that's me
traci


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hi all...get this email from new park entertainment which covers all the

concerts in and near philly....i don't know why i wanted to get this
though as i don't live near philly anymore...in fact i havent lived
there in 11yrs...it will always be my favortie place though! any way,
here is info that some may be interested in near philly! just thought
i'd share! if you want more info on the venues, you can call them or
sign up for all this info at new park entertainment...i don't know know
the webiste exactly, but prolly just type that in! lots of stuff for us
music lovers!!have a wonderful day!

cara

liacouras center

ani difranco with special guest sara lee - october 30 - 7:30pm - $28.50

keswick theatre

emmylou harris with special guest patty griffin
october 15 - 7:30pm - $36.50
visit emmylou on the web at http://www.emmylou.net/index.html
visit patty on the web at
http://www.amrecords.com/artists/pattygriffin/bio.html

indigenous with special guest joe bonamassa
november 8 - 7:30pm - $24
visit indigenous on the web at www.indigenousrocks.com

washington township center for the performing arts

k.d. lang - november 30 - 7:30pm - $37 and $47
visit k.d. on the web at www.kdlang.com

whitaker center for science and the arts

a very special, solo acoustic evening with
dar williams - march 24 - 8pm - $22.50 and $28.50
visit dar on the web at www.darwilliams.com

north star bar

melissa ferrick with her band
with special guests stargazer lily
october 4 - 8pm - $10
visit melissa on the web at http://www.war.com/ferrick/index.html

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here is the latest, again, not wanting to have lengthy discussions, just
wanting to post some relevant info since the topic is already being
discussed! have a wonderful day!

cara

update: napster argues merits of music swap

           san francisco (ap) - a federal court began hearing arguments
monday in the recording
           industry's copyright infringement case against napster, the
joy of more than 22 million
           music-trading users but the bane of major record labels who
say it cheats companies and artists out
           of sales. the company was spared in july from a court order
that would have shut down the site
           until the recording industry association of america's lawsuit
against the online service is resolved.
           only hours after a federal judge issued an injunction against
napster, saying it was encouraging
           "wholesale infringing" against music industry copyrights, the
9th u.s. circuit court of appeals
           stayed the order.

           the two sides headed back to court monday, each getting 20
minutes to argue their case before a
           three-judge panel of the federal appeals court. the
three-judge panel has already expressed
           concerns about the injunction and will try to determine
whether it was overly broad, said marcie
           mihaila, an appellate lawyer who has followed the case.
company lawyer david boies argued
           monday that the lower court's injunction was "unprecedented"
against a company "supplying the
           technology that is capable of a...noninfringing use." a
decision in the case isn't expected for at least
           a month. for the full story click here.

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here is the latest, again, not wanting to have lengthy discussions, just
wanting to post some relevant info since the topic is already being discussed!
have a wonderful day!
<p>cara
<p><b>update: napster argues merits of music swap</b><b></b>
<p><b>           san
francisco (ap) - a federal court began hearing arguments monday in the
recording</b>
<br><b>           industry's
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<br><b>           music-trading
users but the bane of major record labels who say it cheats companies and
artists out</b>
<br><b>           of
sales. the company was spared in july from a court order that would have
shut down the site</b>
<br><b>           until
the recording industry association of america's lawsuit against the online
service is resolved.</b>
<br><b>           only
hours after a federal judge issued an injunction against napster, saying
it was encouraging</b>
<br><b>           "wholesale
infringing" against music industry copyrights, the 9th u.s. circuit court
of appeals</b>
<br><b>           stayed
the order.</b><b></b>
<p><b>           the
two sides headed back to court monday, each getting 20 minutes to argue
their case before a</b>
<br><b>           three-judge
panel of the federal appeals court. the three-judge panel has already expressed</b>
<br><b>           concerns
about the injunction and will try to determine whether it was overly broad,
said marcie</b>
<br><b>           mihaila,
an appellate lawyer who has followed the case. company lawyer david boies
argued</b>
<br><b>           monday
that the lower court's injunction was "unprecedented" against a company
"supplying the</b>
<br><b>           technology
that is capable of a...noninfringing use." a decision in the case isn't
expected for at least</b>
<br>           a month.
for the full story click here.
<p>           *** also:
media focus on napster hearing, click here.
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hey all-

does anyone know about the digipaks for the re-releases?  what i want to
know is, are they like the digipak for cons or the digipak for sots?  i like
the cons one, but sots drives me bananas.  anyone?

chris ii, who's on her way to borders!

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my first hte concert and when they got off their first hiatus was
special.  all year long i'd been wonderring if they'd come back, and
when they did they did just three cites, mpls and east coast  places
i've  long forgotten.

they were "trying out" some (then) new material. my friend ken and i
were 2 hrs early,
and there was not a soul in sight, other than the crew and staff at
northrop, so we just sat out in the halls, and this bright energetic
gorgeous harmony came wafting into the halls. i felt so priviledged just
to sit there, and listen .

if i were the person i am now, i would probably have tried to sneak in
and just stay at the very
back seat......but i was too shy to think of it then. the song i heard
was get out the map.
they did it completely acapella for the soundcheck, which was just
wonderful, i don't
think i ever heard anything like it before then
or since. for the show they had just their accoustic instruements.

beautiful

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if anyone on this list has connections with earlham college and would be willing
to get me 2 tickets, please email me privately. i would hate to miss this show
so close to home!

thanks,
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wasn't someone just looking for this shirt?
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=456747015

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lisa071573@aol.com wrote:

sarah:
<< now that you all know the entire contents of my library...... >>

<< hmm... sarah, you want to go out sometime?? ;)

but i've never even seen your book shelf!


does anyone know how to find an ig screen saver?
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hey,

have y'all seen the new intro for www.indigogirlsonline.com?  it's pretty
nifty.

:-) karen

http://www.geocities.com/karen_rosenblum

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heeey...

so i'm busy burning b-sides for people, and i'm pretty much up to date with
what i have, except i need to finish vol. 5 so i can make it for 'em and
pass it on (i have a wonderful alternate mix of peace tonight, which is
faster, and has more guitar and less horns which y'all gotta hear).

anyway, i'm also finishing off an updated indigo originals and i need a
couple of tracks from december 27th 1998 @ eddie's attic 2nd show (someone,
whose name and email i can't find right now, was sweet enough to send me the
first show, but i need the 2nd also) or anywhere else they may appear...
tape, cdr, mp3, it's all the same to me at the moment:
here's what i need from that show:
the mountain top
*unknown* - lyrics listed at lifebood here:
http://www.lifeblood.net/lyrics/athruz/unknown1.html

'preciate your help.

i have these two songs plus more tape that'll hopefully arrive then the next
big boot offer will commence, could be the best yet?

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dude, on the remix of strange fire, track number 11.  what the hell?  i'm
in heaven!!!!!!!  it's a remake/retake/redo/   whatever.  it is totally
grooooooooovy.  y'all you have to get the remixes b/c there are special
songs here and there.  i don't remember reading about this.  i'm totally
surprised.

in love with emily still and thinking about my jr. high school years with
this song, crazy game.  holy shit.
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okay, i'm not so much in shock now.  i read the liner notes.  track
number 11 is crazy game from the original single version.  track 12 is
everbody's waiting for someone to come home.  sorry about the 911 post.
were these tracks always on the cd/record?  i was living on tapes back in
the early 90's.
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thought i'd save space and ask 2 questions in one
email:

1. does anyone know how old amy and emily are in the
pictures that's on the front of the retrospective
album?

2. has anyone ever thought of setting up some kind of
indigo girls fan mp3 swap type thing?  i think it
would be especially good if napster ends up being shut
down.  forgive me if one already exists...

sharon :-)

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please contact me.

thanks
barb

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in a message dated 10/3/00 7:06:53 am eastern daylight time,
kinsey921@yahoo.com writes:

<< and it's even more sickening
because when you list a cd for auction you have to
agree that what you are putting up is not a cd-rw.
yeah yeah, i could rat the person out and the auction
would end, but a)people have already bid on the stuff
so those people can still be contacted, and b)another
person would step up to bat and sell the cd-rw's too. >>


yes it is sickening     the thing to do is watch the auctions and when you
see an illegal one then report it and the auction is ended which serves two
purposes....  1.   it stops the bidding from going any higher and the person
making any more money on it   2.  it's possible the seller doesnt have their
addresses and they lose the business.....     so in other words complain
away!   and post here as soon as you see it so others can complain as well.

indi

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on tue, 3 oct 2000 22:16:17 edt gitroop@aol.com writes:
> what are you talking about, remixes?  on the new retrospective cd???
> et

i know i was really irrational when i sent that post.  i'm sorry.  the
"remixes"?  i meant reissues.  i was listening to the _strange fire_
reissue and doing laundry.  all of the sudden i heard the beginning of
"crazy game" and it noticed that it sounded really funny, like it was
brand new.  i freaked.  i listened some more.  i freaked again.  i looked
for my liner notes.  couldn't find them.  i kept listening.  yep,
freaked.  i posted to the list.  then i noticed that all of the reissues
have bonus tracks.  it's great.  i'm serious, if you're doubting buying
these reissues, don't.  it's neat to hear them again.  and the shawn
colvin intereview is cool too....even though i already heard it once in
jason's car while we were smoking before the dallas '99 bronco bowl show.


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welp, like tradition i went to the music store before work this morning and
picked up th retrospective diddy!! my way of celebrating the ig was i bought
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8 of them and passed them around at work and said "now you guys have to
atleast give them a try if not for any other reason than because i gave it to
you as a gift of music"........well and then i went on a big surmon about
corporate bastards and music money making schemes and how "the girls" stay
clear and even fight in the battle against them.......and blah blah....but
hey hopefully they will give 'em a try because you know not everyone is
gifted enough like us to have a open mind, heart, and soul and skillful ear
for "the girls". but i reckon thats all i had to say, maybe it will give some
of y'all an idea to do the same :) take care y'all!


mandy


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>my way of
> celebrating the ig was i bought
> 8 of them and passed them around at work
...
>maybe it will give some
> of y'all an idea to do the same :)
>

believe me, if i could afford to do that i would!  i
love sharing the indigo girls with my friends.  i make
them tapes sometimes and send them mp3's.  but right
now i can't even afford to buy the retrospective for
myself.  i'm hoping someone (though it's illegal and i
know it's bad cause it keeps the girls from getting
any money) will put the new songs out on mp3 somewhere
for those of us who can't get the album.  i'm dying to
hear the new songs!  :-)

oh, another little diddy....my professor made me mad
cause she put down the indigo girls today.  it's a
class called women in pop music and my teacher said
something like "i like some acoustic music, but only
when there's lots of finger-picking.  i can't stand it
when they just strum over and over...like the indigo
girls.  i can't listen to them cause trying to make it
through one song just puts me into a coma and bores me
to death."   well, she's a really cool woman, but i
disagree with her taste in music!  she was talking
about danielle howle, too, whom she loves (even though
the musical styles don't seem all that different if
you ask me).  danielle howle, in case you don't know,
is a local artist here in columbia, sc...and she's
also on daemon records.  :-)

enough from me,
sharon

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to your teacher, i would say,"gee i think it's borrin just to listen to
bunch of picking all the time.  lorendo almeda, or andres segovia now
that would put me to sleep." ig rocks the house, hw could you sleep
through all the loud
music?" my .02

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hey there....

i believe i remember someone mentioning that they recorded "if these walls
could talk 2"....
i'd love to trade a magazine for a copy of "if these walls....2".

the magazines i have are all ig related, of course...  :

- 9x   ..... november 1999 issue of plan 9's magazine
"a discussion about everything under the sun with indigo girls' amy ray.

- curve ...... january 1998 issue of the lesbian magazine.
"amy ray talks about emily, coming out, love, ani & honor the earth tour"
(if i trade this one, you also get the march issue which as part 2 of the ar
interview).

- pulse! .... june 1997 issue of the tower record magazine.

- performance songwriter .... july/august 1998 issue

so, can anyone help me out???  would greatly appreciate it..
thanks for your time...
-jackie

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hi all,

are there any indigo girls fans on this list that live in or near arkansas?

-aj
hear me at:
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sarah:
<< but i've never even seen your book shelf! >>

so you wanna see my book shelf?? ;)

so i'm trying to decide if i should cancel my order at igdirect and order
from tower to get the free sampler... oh decisions, decisions...
:) lisa

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hello everyone,

well, i haven't ad anymore responses  (accept one)  from my last post.
and i really need people to get their orders in now. if we do this now,
then on oct. 16th  i could take one of each bumper design to give to the
indigo girls ,
when they come here on the 16th.

if we wait any longer than i can't do that. because printing them will
take two weeks.  but
wouldn't it be cool  for us to give the girls a small token of our
appreciation y signing our names  to the bumper of  your choice?

people could give me  names, and i would write them down  and if you
don't want your name on it, then you could tell me, and i won't put it
down.  now remember, i need to come up with
the money first, if i could get ten peope to order three, that would do
it. you  don't have to  order that many, but it would make things go a
lot faster..

what do you think?

peace
barb

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whoops!  i forgot to say i need to make the order by no later than
monday.. it takes two weeks to print them.

peace
barb

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date:         tue, 3 oct 2000 21:42:18 -0700
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hey y'all,
i know this is certainly not everyone's favorite topic
and i probably shouldn't ask a question like this to
the list, but i'm going to anyway....
i'm thinking of bidding on some indigo girls stuff on
ebay and i'd just like to know the opinion of some of
y'all who have used ebay before.  i'm a bit scared
that i will bid on something and if i win the person
won't send it to me, or it will be something in
terrible condition when they said it was "mint" or
something.  so, i was just wondering if anyone would
like to share with me their ebay experience....has
anyone ever been frauded by people or is it generally
safe?  i hate to think that people would do that, but
lying and false identity seems to be a fact of life
these days....
any opinions would be great!  thanks y'all.

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hey y'all~
     long time no post from me (alyssa). amyray...
does anyone have a boot with color me grey on it? i
really love that song. email me if you have it and we
will set up a trade. i need to go do my homework now
for my 8am class tomorrow morning (yuck!!!), so i will
catch y'all later.
peace!!
~alyssa

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hey y'all,

i think that amy swenson deserves a huge thanks.  she coordinated the
tee-shirt project not just once, but twice!  and she is so efficient and
quick with repackaging all of those shirts and sending them to their owners.
even from thailand she e-mailed the list to let us know the status of the
shirts (geez, i'd probably never even think to do that while i was traveling
in japan and australia, and internet access is so widespred in both of those
places).

thanks amy!  you rock!  i know that so many people feel the same way i do.
and i can not wait to get my shirt!!!

:-) karen

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ok, let me first say that i went all around town today to find the best prices
and did buy all 5 of the new cds.  but, that said - and this will probably be
unpopular - i think that this re-issue thing is a very commercial thing for ig
to do.  a lot of fans who already have these albums will go out and buy them
again for the extra material. it just seems a bit out of character to me.

i love ig.  i appreciate and respect all of the hard work they do for social
causes.  i've tried to do what i can to support those causes as well.  they do
an enormous amount for a number of communities, and i dont for one second
begrudge their right to make money with their work, so they can keep on
working.  but i personally would rather have seen a second disk with the rare
tracks in the retro package as opposed to having them appear with previously
released material as they did.  yes, i made the choice to buy the reissues.  but
i do wish they had done it differently, perhaps less commercially.

just mho.

amy p.

sass60876@aol.com wrote:

> welp, like tradition i went to the music store before work this morning and
> picked up th retrospective diddy!! my way of celebrating the ig was i bought
> 8 of them and passed them around at work and said "now you guys have to
> atleast give them a try if not for any other reason than because i gave it to
> you as a gift of music"........well and then i went on a big surmon about
> corporate bastards and music money making schemes and how "the girls" stay
> clear and even fight in the battle against them.......and blah blah....but
> hey hopefully they will give 'em a try because you know not everyone is
> gifted enough like us to have a open mind, heart, and soul and skillful ear
> for "the girls". but i reckon thats all i had to say, maybe it will give some
> of y'all an idea to do the same :) take care y'all!
>
> mandy
>
> "honey, all i know to do is go"---emily saliers
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hip hip horay!

hip hip horay!

hip hip horay!

it's true, amy rocks!

joe
brooklyn,ny

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i agree with the person who wrote that this re-issue thing is very
commercial...especially for the girls. but i have to say, that over the years
those first 4 cd's have become scratched due to constant playing and general
wear and tear. so it's a great oppertunity to replace them....as well as
having the added bonus of live tracks. y'all have a great day! take care--
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hey all,

i made the pilgrimage to borders this evening - had the five cds in my
hands - and put them back into the rack, one by one....

i just couldn't justify the expense at this time....

if the retrospective had been released as a 2-cd set with 8 or 10 unreleased
tracks, i wouldn't have returned home empty-handed....

i don't think the girls had much choice regarding sony's decision.  sony
owns the product, and stands to reap a potential windfall at very little
cost.....

perhaps after hearing a few of the unreleased tracks, i'll relent, but for
tonight sony miscalculated in at least one case.....

(i'll bet their bean counters are frantic over that one - lol)

peace,
tim


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> ok, let me first say that i went all around town today to find the best
prices
> and did buy all 5 of the new cds.  but, that said - and this will probably
be
> unpopular - i think that this re-issue thing is a very commercial thing
for ig
> to do.  a lot of fans who already have these albums will go out and buy
them
> again for the extra material. it just seems a bit out of character to me.
>
> i love ig.  i appreciate and respect all of the hard work they do for
social
> causes.  i've tried to do what i can to support those causes as well.
they do
> an enormous amount for a number of communities, and i dont for one second
> begrudge their right to make money with their work, so they can keep on
> working.  but i personally would rather have seen a second disk with the
rare
> tracks in the retro package as opposed to having them appear with
previously
> released material as they did.  yes, i made the choice to buy the
reissues.  but
> i do wish they had done it differently, perhaps less commercially.
>
> just mho.
>
> amy p.
>
> sass60876@aol.com wrote:
>
> > welp, like tradition i went to the music store before work this morning
and
> > picked up th retrospective diddy!! my way of celebrating the ig was i
bought
> > 8 of them and passed them around at work and said "now you guys have to
> > atleast give them a try if not for any other reason than because i gave
it to
> > you as a gift of music"........well and then i went on a big surmon
about
> > corporate bastards and music money making schemes and how "the girls"
stay
> > clear and even fight in the battle against them.......and blah
blah....but
> > hey hopefully they will give 'em a try because you know not everyone is
> > gifted enough like us to have a open mind, heart, and soul and skillful
ear
> > for "the girls". but i reckon thats all i had to say, maybe it will give
some
> > of y'all an idea to do the same :) take care y'all!
> >
> > mandy
> >
> > "honey, all i know to do is go"---emily saliers
> >
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i'm writing a paper for my history of american
feminist thought class on the suffragette of my
choice.  i'm doing lucy stone, and can't fing the
lyrics that were posted long ago.  if anyone has them,
can you please send them to me?  i've seen it live,
but there's one particular line i want to quote if i
can remember it.
thanks,
:)carrie

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an update on the november 28 indigo girls concert and
speaking engagement at emory.  the event is part of
emory's "year of reconciliation".  the word around
campusis that the event will be like most other events
on campus (where there is no large venue) that a
limited number of tickets will be handed out to the
emory community, and to enter the event you must have
a ticket and an emory id.  i haven't seen that posted
officially anywhere yet, however, so there is still a
possibility that others can come.  i'll post more as i
hear it.
:)carrie

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>  that said - and this will probably be
> unpopular - i think that this re-issue thing is a very commercial thing
for ig
> to do.  a lot of fans who already have these albums will go out and buy
them
> again for the extra material. it just seems a bit out of character to me.


oh yes, i couldn't agree with this more.  in fact, i think this reissue
thing is a horrible way to treat the fans.  i mean, we've shown our support
by buying the albums once, now they want to take further advantage of us by
tempting us to buy the same thing again, teasing us with two "bonus" tracks
and different liner notes.  it's absolutely disgusting--a horrible gimmick,
and definitely contrary to what we believe they stand for.  totally
corporate.
that being said, i'd like to think that it is completely epic's doing, and
the girls have no control over it, but i don't know enough about the music
business to make that call.  because of that, i'll give amy and emily the
benefit of the doubt.  regardless, it's quite nasty.
what sickens me even more is that i want these reissues!  i even bought one
of them on tower.com so i could get the free sampler cd for collecting
purposes.  but i don't think i'll be rushing out to the store to buy the
rest just to get some bonus tracks which i probably already have in my boot
collection.  i think i've contributed plenty to the incomes of the girls and
all the greedy bastards at epic, and i will continue to do so as long as
they offer stuff that's actually worth my hard earned money.
ok, i think i'm done venting...
leslie

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hi again--wow 2 posts in 2 days.  such excitement.  ok, i've listened to
devotion at least 100 times today--still love it.  haven't had a new ig
song like that since ohhhh i wanna say chickenman back in 92.  just loving
it.

i again apologize if this has been discussed previously but i was hoping
someone who has purchased all of the reissues could post what extra songs
are on each one so i can decide about buying.  i agree with amy p regarding
this reissuing being awfully commercial and hardly in the usual essence of
ig.   but sony knows how passionate ig fans can be and they will scoop up
anything with new material.  thanks to anyone who can outline the new stuff
for me.

i was also wondering if folks have run out and purchased the live concert
at the fillmore video.  i would normally not even hesitate to buy it but
it's a cons concert and that was not my favorite tour.  but if someone here
says it's great and worth it i might consider it.  sorry again if this was
discussed a few weeks ago.

thansk as always for your gracious opinions.  i have enjoyed the last few
days of the list--fun reading!

greg

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> i was also wondering if folks have run out and
> purchased the live concert
> at the fillmore video. but if someone here
> says it's great and worth it i might consider it.

it's great if you enjoying looking at chandeliers. oh
yeah, the indigo girls are in it too. =)

captain janeway

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i love it (big surprise)....

every time i watch it, i notice something i'd missed previously.

the band members all turn in impressive performances.  amy rocks like only
amy can.  and emily is a guitar goddess!!!

just my totally unbiased opinion....

tim
http://www.mp3.com/timbaldwin

> i was also wondering if folks have run out and purchased the live concert
> at the fillmore video.  i would normally not even hesitate to buy it but
> it's a cons concert and that was not my favorite tour.  but if someone
here
> says it's great and worth it i might consider it.

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> oh yes, i couldn't agree with this more.  in fact, i think this reissue
> thing is a horrible way to treat the fans.  i mean, we've shown our
support
> by buying the albums once, now they want to take further advantage of us
by
> tempting us to buy the same thing again, teasing us with two "bonus"
tracks
> and different liner notes.  it's absolutely disgusting--a horrible
gimmick,
> and definitely contrary to what we believe they stand for.  totally
> corporate.

<flame>
"take further advantage" ?!?  as if selling you their other cd's in the
first place constitutes taking advantage of you?  please.  if you don't want
it don't buy it... but don't bitch about being taken advantage of.  i can
truly say that i got at least fifteeen bucks worth of enjoyment out of each
cd they have put out. a lot more actually.  i'll bet i'm not the only one
here who wants to see ig be financially successful.  and how about their
rather laid-back view on the endless unauthorized bootlegs in circulation.
i'd say they are more than generous.  to say it is a "horrible way to treat
the fans" is preposterous.  i would like to think their fans would show them
some respect.  now if they never released anything again? that would be
truly horrible.
</flame>

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come on now chris, that's not what i meant.  i'm pretty sure i made it clear
that i was happy to buy the cds in the first place (usually quite ecstatic,
actually), but to try to get us to buy them again is taking advantage of our
loyalty as fans.  and yes, the record companies are notorious for taking
advantage of fans and artists and whoever else suits their purposes for the
almighty buck.
i am happy to pay big bucks for whatever the girls release, but if it's a
scheme by the record company (whether or not the girls had input) to get
more money for nothing, no thank you.
of course i respect the girls and of course i want them to be financially
successful.

and as for the rest of your "arguement" about the generosity of the girls
regarding boots, etc., that is completely irrelevant except to maybe support
the idea that it's probably more the record company behind these reissues
than the girls themselves.   you think epic has a laid-back view about
bootlegs?  we all know for a fact--no.

i get the feeling you read part of my email, found something you could get
all riled up about, and fired away.  you think i'd be on this list or even
care about the reissues if i didn't respect the girls?  give me a break.  if
you had read my email enough to understand it, you would notice that i
didn't blame amy and emily.  they are two of the most honorable,
respectable, and genuine women i can think of, and like someone said, this
reissue thing is "out of character", and like i said, i hope it is entirely
epic's doing.
you are arguing a moot point.

leslie

<flame>
> "take further advantage" ?!?  as if selling you their other cd's in the
> first place constitutes taking advantage of you?  please.  if you don't
want
> it don't buy it... but don't bitch about being taken advantage of.  i can
> truly say that i got at least fifteeen bucks worth of enjoyment out of
each
> cd they have put out. a lot more actually.  i'll bet i'm not the only one
> here who wants to see ig be financially successful.  and how about their
> rather laid-back view on the endless unauthorized bootlegs in circulation.
> i'd say they are more than generous.  to say it is a "horrible way to
treat
> the fans" is preposterous.  i would like to think their fans would show
them
> some respect.  now if they never released anything again? that would be
> truly horrible.
> </flame>
>

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<< new york, oct. 3 /prnewswire/ -- it's no secret that universal records
recording artist sister hazel has developed a loyal fanbase since the release
of their platinum major label debut "somewhere more familiar ..." in 1997.
the diversity of their following has vastly expanded since the release of
their second cd "fortress," which spawned the smash single "change your
mind". even vice president al gore seems to have joined the ranks of the
gainesville,
florida quintet's admirers.  when the vice president appeared on mtv's
choose or lose last week at the university of michigan, one student from the
audience asked him what was currently in his cd player and gore replied,
"sister
hazel."  it certainly seems that sister hazel fans come from all walks of
life.

look for sister hazel out on the road starting on october 5 in florence, al.
the second single from "fortress," "champagne high," featuring emily sailers
of the indigo girls, will be released to radio on october 17. >>

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i second that!  thank you amy!!!
you are the best!
lynne
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> hip hip horay!
>
> hip hip horay!
>
> hip hip horay!
>
> it's true, amy rocks!
>
> joe
> brooklyn,ny
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<<and this will probably be unpopular - i think that this re-issue thing is
a very commercial thing for ig to do.  a lot of fans who already have these
albums will go out and buy them
again for the extra material. it just seems a bit out of character to me...
i personally would rather have seen a second disk with the rare tracks in
the retro package as opposed to having them appear with previously released
material as they did.>>

not just commercial, but tight as well - two bonus tracks is not good
enough. four would be the minimum for a decent reissue, and a great reissue
(see sony's byrds discs) fills the disc with bonus tracks or runs out of
material trying and there really is no shortage of material. as for the
remastering, well, i haven't heard them to compare, but...

i wouldn't have bought the reissues if there wasn't the tower bonus disc in
it for me. but i did run out to borders last night to buy retrospective with
the bonus disc and took a look at them all. the back cover of the n*i*s
jewel case looks _awful_. it's like a bad color photocopy. except where
they've added the titles of the bonus tracks, and the contrast shows just
how blurry the main thing is.

and i hate that borders' sticker on retrospective says the bonus disc is
'previously unreleased' when 2/3 isn't (and even the disc alludes to this
with the (p) date).

whine whine whine, that's all those ig fans ever do... :o)

<<i was hoping someone who has purchased all of the reissues could post what
extra songs
are on each one so i can decide about buying.>>

strange fire bonus tracks:
crazy game / everybody's waiting for someone to come home
(their first release - the 1985 7")

indigo girls bonus tracks:
land of canaan (single remix)
center stage (live)
(not sure about the date of live recording, but probably prev. unreleased).

nomad's*indians*saints
welcome me (live)
you and me of 10,000 wars (live)
shawn colvin interviews amy and emily
(not sure about the date of live recording, although prob. from shades of
indigo dates - although welcome me is not on soi.)

rites of passage
three hits (live at eddie's attic)
love will come to you (live at eddie's attic)
(as far as i can tel prev. unreleased)

borders bonus disc with retrospective
mystery (acoustic)
reunion (acoustic)
shame on you (live board mix 2000)
the live track is definately from the july 28th house of blues show in la
(see below)
although marked as previosly unreleased, mystery (acoustic) was on the power
of two cd single. reunion was on the australian touch me fall cd singles.

tower records bonus w/ two ig purchases
get out the map (live)
andy (live)
ozilline (live)
gone again (live)
wood song (studio acoustic)
live trax from the hob july 28th show, wood song previously on an australian
touch me fall cd single.

that just about covers things, i think!

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> >  that said - and this will probably be
> > unpopular - i think that this re-issue thing is a very
> commercial thing
> for ig
> > to do.  a lot of fans who already have these albums will go out
> and buy
> them
> > again for the extra material. it just seems a bit out of
> character to me.
>

amy actually commented on the retro cd at the pittsburgh concert
(8/11/00), saying something to the effect (please excuse my major
paraphrasing) that she felt bad that we had to buy a compilation album
in order to get two new tracks (see carla's review, posted at
http://brianclary.com). so, the girls were definitely in tune w/our
potential frustrations, maybe that's why they decided to put such
phenomenal new songs on the cd- devotion and leaving. imho they are
amazing and alone are worth the price of buying the retrospective- and
hey, as a bonus, you get 14 other songs, too!

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hey all...i respect where many are coming from in their dislike of these

reissues, but i disagree w/ thinking this is a negative thing...i love
our girls..i think they are the two hardest working, dedicated,
unselfish, ingenious musicians in the buisness!.. i have all the cds
(exept the retrospective...but soon i will have that! thanks for all the

awsome posts on that release!!)....and i may not be able to get all the
new reissues, but this is a phenomal way for those who have yet to be
introduced to our incredible girls!!

among other things, the quality of the reissues, are probally
impecable!...i don't think its important wether or not this a commercial

thing to do...and if it is...whats wrong with that? the girls themselves

are not against radio and commericialism in it of itself, and this a
fantastic way to reach a vast number of ppl who have yet to experience
the things we have...

i don't know why ppl think that commericialism is selling out...(not
saying anyone here said or think that per say)...they have werked their
asses off and done everything themselves and its about time epic
recognizes them...i think its an honor that they and/or sony wants to do

this...they don't just reissue anything...it is a very special
thing...we should be so proud...all of their hard work is continuing to
pay off....and they have never waivered on their beliefs, work ethics,
or anything else to make themselves more 'commericial', its just they
are finally being accepted and recognized for their music as it is,
their music, orginal and unique to them and no one else!!

i hope those ppl who walk in and out of music stores, who don't normally

go to a certain section of the store, are able to see these releases
right up front! we are fortunate b/c we know where to look for the
girls' music, but many don't even know how wonderful they are...this is
a phenomonal opportunity for our girls to be recognized by the
'ordinary' listener of mainstream music!! and if someone who has not
heard of their girls or listened to their music, how fortunate they get
to an album that is remastered for optimal quality, but they get a few
extras along the way!

if i had the money id go out and by all of the reissues out of
pride...the more i think about it, the more amazing i think this is! out

of the millions of artists that have had records, only a few get
selected for reissues!! i really believe this is a massive compliment on

sony's part towards the girls! ...i may be wrong, but if the girls were
100% agains't this, they prolly could have not gone along....but like i
said, i may be wrong on that note!

ok...ill shut up! i say good for our girls! they are gettin alot of
press attention for the video/ dvd release, the retrospective release,
the reissues, the hte, and tons of other stuff! anyone who is on a
sony/epic mailing list is hearing about this, if they go in stores they
will hear about it...

.you might as well use a major label to your advantage if your able, and

not a hindrence! our girls have done tremendous things for epic w/ the
success of all their works, this is the least sony can do!!
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have a wonderful day all! hope i didn't piss anyone off!

cara

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when i told some friends of mine that i was going to buy these reissues they
said i was mad. they also don't understand how i can buy complete albums,
soundtracks etc., just for an ig song.  i know a lot of you understand it,
though, and that's great!

cdnow are selling all the reissues and the retrospective on minidisc format,
(also with 30% off all albums at the moment) so i'm going to go with that, at
least i can have all the md albums in my car, and leave the cds at home!

fare thee well,
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hi all.  i found a place to store my mp3 files that's not dependent on
napster.  so...if you're interested, they're at
http://www.tripod.com/felidae  they're all amy songs and most of them are
going to be on her solo record.  enjoy!

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sorry, y'all.  the correct url is http://members.tripod.com

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        arrgh!! why can't i type the correct url?  http://members.tripod.com/felidae

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i don't know if anyone has thought of this.. but with
the re issues running (at least from what i saw at
tower,) a little cheaper than the prices of the
regular cd's, now is a good time to prepare for
christmas, and another shameless attempt to convert
all my non - ig loving friends to ig fanatics like
myself... i may even send my grandma a copy.. i mean..
she did think that "cedar tree" was pretty... :)

otherwise, i won't be buying these for myself.. as
much as i love ig... i really don't have much use for
having what is essentially double copies of the same
cd.. though i did get rop because my copy has a bit of
a scratch that makes chickenman sound like a dance
mix.. and not in a good way. yay!!!

anyway.. that's my take.

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okay, how much ass does devotion kick?  seriously, though!  it's fantastic.
leaving rules, great harmonies, sad, sad song.  choking me up.  great guitar
solo.

anyone know what happened to the title, "radio box"?  wasn't that attached
to this album at some point?

fyi, for the curious:  the borders "mystery" seems to be the same one on the
po2 single (i think that's the one).  the "reunion" is also the accoustic
version we're all familiar with.  the version of soy was recorded in la,
apparently at hob, july 28.  (someone else already posted this.)

it's pretty cool, actually.  definately worth the border's purchase, unless
there are other "anti-mega-conglomerate" issues involved.

chris ii

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sorry if this has already been posted.  for those who would like to know the
extra tracks on the four re-mastered cds.  here goes.

strange fire - bonus tracks
crazy game (original single version)
everybody's waiting for someone to come home (b-side of crazy game single)

indigo girls - bonus tracks
land of canaan (radio single remix)
center stage (live)

nomads indians & saints - bonus tracks
welcome me (live)
interview
you and me of the 10,000 wars (live)

rites of passage - bonus tracks
three hits (live from eddie's attic)
love will come to you (live from eddie's attic)

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also, something i was thinking about.  i am all for the girls being
financially successful. two people who make this many people happy deserve
the very best in life.  i don't know who i would be, if i hadn't added them
to my life.  plus you know the girls use plenty of money for causes that do
not benefit them selfishly.  but besides the money, maybe these new cds
sound better to them.  i believe in one of the liner notes amy actually
mentions something to the extent of not being so happy with the older stuff
although she knows it played a part in their success.  don't quote me i have
no memory at all, but it was something like that.  so maybe these cds make
it more bearable for them to listen to and allows them to be more proud of
them when others listen to them.  just my 2 cents.

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upon hearing that emily sang backup on champagne high on sister hazel's new album, "fortress", i went to their website to see if any audio data was available - and it was.  i liked the 20 seconds or so i heard of a few songs, that i went out and purchased the cd.  i am now contemplating purchasing their previous release, too!

i highly recommend "fortress" as a great listen (once, of course, we are all done listening to devotion and leaving umpteen million times! :-)  )

carrie p.

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hey,
...ordered last week...got everything monday...perfect condition...
i've never had a problem with igdirect...

rugbygrrl/lisa


>from: lisa071573@aol.com
>subject: ig direct
>date: tue, 3 oct 2000 15:12:55 edt
>
>ok so i've ordered the new cd's from ig direct and i've never ordered from
>there before (at least, not to my knowledge, although my screen name was
>taken...) anyway, has anyone ordered all the new stuff and received it
>yet??
>when i placed the order yesterday everything was still labeled as
>preorder...
>
>at least the remastered cd's are cheap :p
>lisa
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hi,

can anyone tell if the original songs on the reissues are actually
remastered?  there doesn't seem to be any mentioning of the remastering
in the new parts of the liner notes.  they just talk about the bonus
tracks.

wendell

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hey there kind friends.  i ordered two of the remastered cd's from tower
records just so that i could get the bonus disc.  well i got an e-mail
saying that the first two discs have been shipped but the bonus is on
backorder.  then i went to look at their web site and i don't see the bonus
listed anymore.  did anyone else get this message?

mi rinda

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it just occurred to me that some people who weren't around when we made
the original decisions on the bmpers designs. just go to my website, and
click onthe buttons that say tara's, and amy's they are four dollars
each.

i have to ake one change though, the bumpers
are black on white, accept for amy ray or president.

peace
barb


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"it's great if you enjoying looking at chandeliers."

here, here, captain janeway!  i'm so sick and tired
of those chandeliers.  i like the video, but i just got
the great woods video from a friend (we swapped -
she doesn't have filmore, i never saw great woods) and
i like that much better.  has to be one of the best shows i've
seen.

one thing i do like about filmore, though, is the interviews.

c (still listening to devotion and leaving over and over)

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date:         thu, 5 oct 2000 11:34:41 -0700
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hey gang:

ok, let's understand what it is that we are dealing with,  a corporation,
sony!!!!

they exist to make money for their stockholders.   their product is
music/entertainment.  in order to make money their product needs to support
current users/fans as well as generate new fans.

the whole re-issue thing is to provide a catalog experience for new & old
fans.   so, old fans get a few new songs & new liner notes.

they are not evil, they are fulfilling their mission.

let's reserve special words (like evil) for those that do deserve it, such
as exxon (now mobil/exxon).

i am always amazed at complaints about $30 for an ig ticket or the whole
napster issue (i dont feel too guilty cause i've downloaded a ton of ig
stuff, but if i downloaded stuff and did not buy cd's from the artist, then
i should feel guilty as i am taking without paying for the artist's
intellectual property).

artists & companies deserve to be compensated for their product.  when they
start getting excessive, that's another thing.

not meaning to offend (as it's sooo darn close to yom kippur, i have enough
to atone for)!

melissa

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> >  that said - and this will probably be
> > unpopular - i think that this re-issue thing is a very commercial thing
> for ig
> > to do.  a lot of fans who already have these albums will go out and buy
> them
> > again for the extra material. it just seems a bit out of character to
me.
>
>
> oh yes, i couldn't agree with this more.  in fact, i think this reissue
> thing is a horrible way to treat the fans.  i mean, we've shown our
support
> by buying the albums once, now they want to take further advantage of us
by
> tempting us to buy the same thing again, teasing us with two "bonus"
tracks
> and different liner notes.  it's absolutely disgusting--a horrible
gimmick,
> and definitely contrary to what we believe they stand for.  totally
> corporate.
> that being said, i'd like to think that it is completely epic's doing, and
> the girls have no control over it, but i don't know enough about the music
> business to make that call.  because of that, i'll give amy and emily the
> benefit of the doubt.  regardless, it's quite nasty.
> what sickens me even more is that i want these reissues!  i even bought
one
> of them on tower.com so i could get the free sampler cd for collecting
> purposes.  but i don't think i'll be rushing out to the store to buy the
> rest just to get some bonus tracks which i probably already have in my
boot
> collection.  i think i've contributed plenty to the incomes of the girls
and
> all the greedy bastards at epic, and i will continue to do so as long as
> they offer stuff that's actually worth my hard earned money.
> ok, i think i'm done venting...
> leslie
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hey everyone....i think that sister hazel is going to perform (along with
barenaked ladies) at a bite of las vegas on saturday.

anyway, my best friend & her 2 five yr olds (my god-kids) are coming and we
are taking them!

not bad, newport folk fest & now this for my beautiful kids, max &
amelia!!!!

still recovering fm latest surgeries...

mg
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> << new york, oct. 3 /prnewswire/ -- it's no secret that universal records
> recording artist sister hazel has developed a loyal fanbase since the
release
> of their platinum major label debut "somewhere more familiar ..." in 1997.
>  the diversity of their following has vastly expanded since the release of
> their second cd "fortress," which spawned the smash single "change your
> mind". even vice president al gore seems to have joined the ranks of the
> gainesville,
>  florida quintet's admirers.  when the vice president appeared on mtv's
> choose or lose last week at the university of michigan, one student from
the
> audience asked him what was currently in his cd player and gore replied,
> "sister
>  hazel."  it certainly seems that sister hazel fans come from all walks of
> life.
>
>  look for sister hazel out on the road starting on october 5 in florence,
al.
>  the second single from "fortress," "champagne high," featuring emily
sailers
> of the indigo girls, will be released to radio on october 17. >>
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why they never released greatwoods, i will never know, but by gosh i
think that is to the detriment of sony.  the judds were able to release
their farewell ppv show, and probably mae a ton of money off it, as well
as a bunch of charities.....(yeah  what an idea the ig might been able
to use greatwoods to benefit hte. dang! what a concept!)

barb

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oh yeah, and about fillmore, i can't repeat it
enough the production crew that filmed the show was rotten. isomebody on
this list mentioned that this was the same crew that does austin city
limits? by gosh i've seen the
footage of austin city limts ,  and there is no
comparison, they didn't do the girls one bit of justice.

the cameras on austin city limits are always right on the performers,
at all times.

barb

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melissa wrote:
> they exist to make money for their stockholders.   their product is
> music/entertainment.  in order to make money their product needs to support
> current users/fans as well as generate new fans.

        right on. as somebody else mentioned, the label has at least
partial control of the music right now; to some extent, they can do
exactly as they please. and yeah, it's manipulative to package it with
little snippets of new stuff just so we'll buy it, but that's the whole
point. if they can get us to pay for the same album twice, so much the
better for them.
        could amy and emily have fought it? yeah, probably. but compared
to all the other good work they're doing, battling this out with the
record company isn't really worth the time that could be spent on hte or a
pro-choice benefit or something. they may have even been hoping that epic
would cross-promote the rereleases with hte - so much the better for that
good cause. it's too bad that epic hasn't made more of hte, all things
considered... anybody have any insights why that might be?

        mandy


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i popped my fillmore video in the other night and was just disgusted with
the way my crappy vcr kept making the tape slip.  i'm considering dvd.  i've
been considering for a while, but i'm a little hesitant for one reason.
does anyone see recordable dvd sometime in the near future?

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mi rinda wrote:

<<i ordered two of the remastered cd's from tower
records just so that i could get the bonus disc.  well i got an e-mail
saying that the first two discs have been shipped but the bonus is on
backorder...did anyone else get this message?>>


i ordered the retro disc and one of the remastered discs from tower
online, (only ordered the remastered disc in order to qualify for the
"bonus disc").  anway, my order was shipped, minus the bonus disc
too, also on backorder.

so, you are not alone.  it happened to me too.  but i'm skeptical.  may
have to hit my local tower, just to be sure to get the bonus disc!!


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on wed, 4 oct 2000, mandy (just mandy) wrote:

>         right on. as somebody else mentioned, the label has at least
> partial control of the music right now; to some extent, they can do
> exactly as they please. and yeah, it's manipulative to package it with
> little snippets of new stuff just so we'll buy it, but that's the whole
> point. if they can get us to pay for the same album twice, so much the
> better for them.

   i think that's exactly the point.  if we, the consumers, buy those
remastered albums, no matter what you may say on this list -- you approve
of those methods.  if they *don't* sell well, then sony should have
done something else.
   i'm personally holding out for a box set or compilation -- there's no
way i'm buying 4 albums a second time.

   darius

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hustling through these nightlights' diamond glow..."
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hey all,

i got this by email a few minutes ago, for those of you that might have
tix... fyi

>>please note that tonight's (october 4) melissa ferrick  show
at the north star has been postponed due to illness. all tickes will be
honored on december 3. please join us then for this excellent show!<<

jean


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on wed, 4 oct 2000, sheryl jones wrote:

> i popped my fillmore video in the other night and was just disgusted with
> the way my crappy vcr kept making the tape slip.  i'm considering dvd.  i've
> been considering for a while, but i'm a little hesitant for one reason.
> does anyone see recordable dvd sometime in the near future?

   it exists, but you're talking major buckage.  like $30/disc, and god
knows how much for the recorders.
   if you're a fan of film, though, dvd is so completely worth it.  i
can't begin to express how much more the dvd format brings to movies.
(given a good stereo system/tv, of course...)

   darius

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readin' them want ads out on chelsea road
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leaving is familiar and now i know from where, you know that older song,
something like "if you live like that, don't look back"  it reminds me of
that song alot.  am i crazy or do you guys hear it too.  i love that song.

traci drago
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first of all, if anyone lives in the madison (wi) area, kelly hogan is
playing at the memorial union in support of her new album. she often plays
with ig when they're in the chicago area. i think she's an atlanta
transplant, but i could be wrong.

lisa:
>>so you wanna see my book shelf?? ;)

that depends, what's it wearing right now?

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not austin city limits, musiclink.  yes, big difference!

on wed, 4 oct 2000, barbara bordner wrote:

> oh yeah, and about fillmore, i can't repeat it
> enough the production crew that filmed the show was rotten. isomebody on
> this list mentioned that this was the same crew that does austin city
> limits? by gosh i've seen the
> footage of austin city limts ,  and there is no
> comparison, they didn't do the girls one bit of justice.

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hey, fellow ig'ers....

i am making a desperate attempt here.

my g/f lives in nyc and i go see her pretty often.   each time i go up there, we peruse the music listings around town and never see anyone playing that we recognize.  i live in alabama, so i come from the atlanta music scene.

i am beginning to wonder 2 things.....

either
(1)nyc doesn't have great local music to offer

or
(2) i don't know the local musicians.

i am hoping for the latter.  i'd hate to think nyc doesn't have a great scene.  is there a scene there that even rivals atlanta's scene?

for the people that live in that area, can you list some artists that play in nyc that i may can look for next time i go up there?  it's depressing to be in such a big city and be devoid of music each time i go up there!

thanks!
amanda

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in case some of you haven't seen this:

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
indigo girls, raitt, baez urge votes

browning, mont. (ap) - as residents registered to vote in the november
election, indigo girls, bonnie raitt and joan baez performed in the
background.
the concert in a high school gymnasium on the blackfeet indian reservation
was part of a tour promoters say is intended to stimulate voting by
americans indians, and draw attention to environmental issues.

"my birthday is the day after election day, so make me happy -
vote!" raitt told about 800 people sunday before she began singing the
blues.

raitt likened artists to town criers who "alert the rest of the populace
to what needs to be focused on."

the singers have scheduled concerts at a number of indian
reservations. the montana itinerary included stops at bozeman, missoula
and the flathead reservation.

"i feel inspired," indigo girls member emily saliers said as she looked
around the blackfeet reservation. "i just feel the strength of what a
community can accomplish when they come together in spite of all kinds of
circumstances."

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cd review: indigo girls' 'retrospective' spans 15 years of harmony

by molly kimelman
the villanovan
villanova u.


(u-wire) villanova, pa. -- to celebrate 15 years of beautiful harmony,
symbolic lyrics and unique instrumentalization. the indigo girls will
release indigo girls: a retrospective on oct. 3. this 16-track album
combines some of amy ray and emily sailers' most popular songs with brand
new hits, creating a variety of music styles, moods and emotions. the
album is also an attempt to promote the indigo girls' 2000 honor the earth
tour, which funds environmental and cultural preservation projects in the
americas.

in fact, several of the songs on indigo girls: retrospective indirectly
focus on worldly themes utilizing not only figurative language, but unique
beats that resemble those of various indigenous cultures, as well. for
example, the popular song, "closer to fine," alludes to a fountain of
life, philosophy and a quest for happiness.

those familiar with the indigo girls' music already realize that a
majority of their songs feature profound lyrics, including issues ranging
from afterlife to adolescent relationships. listeners often catch
themselves searching for hidden meanings inside the artistic words. the
indigo girls' songs are basically poems accompanied by different musical
styles.

the diverse musical styles add a unique component to indigo
girls: retrospective. each and every song on the album showcases a
different sound. while some songs are soothing, others are catchy and
still others are intense. it should also be noted that the indigo girls
not only write their own lyrics and music, but they play their own
instruments as well. most of their songs feature guitar, keyboard and
drums, but many include atypical instruments such as harmonica, flute and
cymbals.

in addition, fans can always rely on the indigo girls for providing
beautiful harmony. the deep, rough voice of amy ray blended with the
sweet, sopranic tones of emily sailers create a fabulous juxtaposition
that only the indigo girls can attain. the women's opposite voices combine
to form a musical phenomenon.

the highlights of indigo girls: retrospective include
"galileo," "ghost" and "least complicated," as well as "watershed," "kid
fears" and "reunion." these songs are exemplary of the indigo girls' style
and are easily relative to individual personal issues.

the album also features "power of two," which is included on the
soundtrack for the film, "boys on the side," starring drew barrymore and
whoopi goldberg. the calm melody and elaborate lyrics of "power of
two" also managed to guarantee the girls cameos in the film.

the recent hits on the album, "devotion," and "leaving," provide even more
incentive for fans to buy the album, since they combine the styles of the
past, creating two amazing pieces of music.

indigo girls: retrospective succeeds in portraying the span of the duo's
career from 1985 to 2000. it not only emphasizes the diversity of the
girls' music, but it includes some of their most popular and influential
hits.

(c) 2000 the villanovan via u-wire

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on wed, 4 oct 2000 abbett@aol.com wrote:

> for the people that live in that area, can you list some artists that
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> play in nyc that i may can look for next time i go up there?  it's
> depressing to be in such a big city and be devoid of music each time i
> go up there!

   one person to look for is a feller named matt smith -- i don't live in
nyc, but i met him at a hamer guitars factory tour/jam session, he's one
of their endorsers...

   matt's a killer singer-songwriter, and has chops to die for on any
stringed instrument.  i've never met a player who is both so
overwhelmingly skilled in his command of an instrument, and such a soulful
musician; in his writing, playing, and singing.

   i know he's based out of nyc, but that's the only info i have.

   darius

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in a message dated 10/4/00 11:58:53 am pacific daylight time,
sljones1@facstaff.wisc.edu writes:

> i popped my fillmore video in the other night and was just disgusted with
>  the way my crappy vcr kept making the tape slip
i think all of these videotapes might have a problem...i am on my 3rd one,
xchanged at tower, and all 3 of them have had the same problem.

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hi, amanda!!  i heard a group named "antigone rising" play a few times and
they were really good...not sure if they are local though... i think they
are, but not 100%...keep your eye out though....they are really great...hope
that helps!!

annamarie

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in nyc that i may can look for next time i go up there?  it's depressing to
be in such a big city and be devoid of music each time i go up there!"

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date:         wed, 4 oct 2000 16:23:13 edt
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hey there intimate strangers...

let me get this off my chest:  i miss jilly, i miss shelley being on this
list.  okay, i feel better now.

yesterday, i got off work early and went to media play and purchased
retrospective and 4.5 (since it was cheaper there than in so. cal.).  eight
songs identical, but i don't care.  it was more of a collection decision.
i'm so glad they included those two new tracks and gave me more to read in
the liner notes (of retrospective).  i love that in the back of the liner
booklet, there are snippets of stuff from years past--especially, guessing
which song they were quoting, "love will come to you".  and all the little
neat pictures and snippets of their touring lives.  can someone help me
figure out the picture on the cd itself?

my next purchase will be the fillmore video.  my semi-igc for the day:  when
i watched the movie"almost famous" they had a segment where you could hear
joni mitchell singing a couple phrases of "river"--*sigh* beautiful.  okay,
let me be the rock journalist for the indigo girls like that william miller
kid was to stillwater.  remember, i asked first! ;)

diane - who is also harboring a crush on emily.


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i almost had someone's attention who mentioned she might send me the albany
boot from a few months ago  but apparently what i offered did not interest
her or maybe practical things like school and other important stuff
intervened..so does anyone know of a boot of this show floating around?  i
really do have some wonderful stuff on cd :)

and i need something to fill up the gap made by of all the hte shows i'm
missing here on the east coast =)

jude :)

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date:         wed, 4 oct 2000 13:38:15 -0700
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ok, i finally copped an mp3 of this (relax, i ordered the
retrospective, it should be here today), and wow....

wow.

the thing i love about the indigo girls is their constant way of taking
my breath away, time and time again.

ok, i should really get some work done.

in other news, some italian website directory is featuring my website
and their little description is, electronically translated from
italian:

"nobody ownes you, nobody is your landladies!  with this fixed phrase a
situated one is opened entire beautiful dedicated to the feminine,
young, aggressive world (in the sport sense of the word) and
trasgressivo, but without stereotypes.  more than " small women they
grow ", we would say:  " good girls to the onslaught of the life ".
music, trend and much sport, but also chat, councils and an impact from
magazine much lively one."

how wierd. i don't think this is my site, but it's my url. strange.

love,
amy

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ohhhhh.. wow i am very jealous mandy that you got to get so many and hand
them out.. so i canceled my order at ig direct cause i'm really broke and
can't afford to be spending $70 on ig cd's.. but maybe now i can get a few
from tower and use neil's coupon...

blah....
lisa

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damn borders is giving out bonus cd's too?? i need to win the lottery :p
lisa

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the dvd absolutely rocks!  if you haven't heard latf in 5.1 dolby digital
(two front speakers, two rear, one center channel, one subwoofer) , you are
truly missing out.  very nice audio mixing indeed.

oh, and i just want to say that my favorite performances from latf have to
be shed your skin, land of cannan, sister, and scooter boys.

also, the gal that plays cello on latf, caroline lavelle has a solo album
out called spirit.  i heard it on npr a couple of years a go and picked it
up.  it's quite nice.  if your curious you can find out more at
www.cdnow.com

peace,
chris m. wilson

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me:
>> if they can get us to pay for the same album twice, so much the
>> better for them.

darius in response to me:
>    i think that's exactly the point.  if we, the consumers, buy those
> remastered albums, no matter what you may say on this list -- you approve
> of those methods.  if they *don't* sell well, then sony should have
> done something else.

me in response to darius in response to me:
        i agree completely. which is why, after a point (or maybe even
before) it's kind of pointless for us to rant and rave onlist about the
evil evil record label people. we know why they're doing what they're
doing, and we know how to register our disapproval.
        so i guess what i'm asking is that we either act on that and take
a pass on the new cds, or bite the proverbial bullet and buy them, but
please let's not discuss it ad nauseum on the list. (and i don't mean you,
darius, *at all* - i mean all of us in general.) i know this is still a
fairly new topic, but it's gonna get old fast... i have nightmares of this
discussion turning into ebay ii..
        anyway....

        mandy
        shutting up


                so go ahead, push your luck
                say what it is you gotta say to me
                we will push on into this mystery
                and it'll push right back
                and there are worse things than that...
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hey,
    sorry for the nigc, but i am desperate.  does anybody happen to have =
the chords or tab for michelle's song "my green thumb?"  i wanted to =
perform it at a show that i am doing tomorrow night, but i can't seem to =
find my cd, so i have no way to figure it out myself in an hurry.  =
e-mail me privately if you have it.  thanks a lot!

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ok, maybe i deleted the post that answers this question, but have all the
girls cds been reissued?  i was under the impression that it was a re-release
of certain songs on one cd and there were a few new tracks thrown in there.
but from reading posts over the last few days i get the feeling that i am
wrong.  clarification, anyone?
thanks.

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but it ends up running down the middle of me
most of the time..."
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in a message dated 10/4/2000 3:26:52 pm central daylight time,
arle@hotmail.com writes:

<< let me get this off my chest:  i miss jilly, i miss shelley being on this
list.  okay, i feel better now. >>

agreed.  :-)  so shelley is no longer on this list either?  :(

:-) karen


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ohhh, today is turning out to be such a great day.

for starters, one of my professors who is highly regarded in the field of
japan studies has agreed to write me grad school recs.

but here comes the igc.  i decided that message i got from tower about the
special cd being on backorder was a bit daunting.  so i went to a nearby
tower to get it.  not only did i find a space right in front of the store
(hard to do in chicago's lincoln park area), but the guy working there was
sort of dumb.  i saw the free cd and asked him about where i could find the
reissued cd's (they weren't with the rest of the ig cd's).  anyway, he had no
clue, but he was like "if you want that cd *that* badly, just take it."  ok
-- not a problem with me.  so i got a free cd and bought nothing at tower.

then on my way home i was actually listening to the radio (i had left my cd
player and cd's at home, and the only tape i had in my car was a dar tape
which i have listened to heaps in the past few days).  anyway, they (xrt for
you chicago people) were playing *good* music.  after u2's new (or
soon-to-be-released) song, i heard the opening of galileo.  i thought "this
can't be."  but i was wrong.  chicago radio (which has a reputation for being
horrible!) was actually playing galileo!  after the song, the dj plugged hte
a bit and made some dumb comment about the song (but in my experiences,
chicago radio dj's have usually sounded dumb and misinformed when talking
about the indigo girls).  but nonetheless it was still cool...

:-) karen

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hey,
        i don't have the chords..but if you're that desperate i can run
you the cd somtime tomorrow.

-heather

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for those of y'all who don't know:

jilly was always there to tell us about her step mother's problem with
schalacking her picture of jodie foster with hair spray and she was
obsessed with rose p. before all of us were....i still am.

shelley got the nerve to get together a whole bunch of songs written and
performed by listees and then put them onto a tape that went all around.
pretty crazy.

on wed, 4 oct 2000 16:23:13 edt diane wong <arle@hotmail.com> writes:
> hey there intimate strangers...
>
> let me get this off my chest:  i miss jilly, i miss shelley being on
> this
> list.  okay, i feel better now.

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in a message dated 10/04/2000 10:55:43 pm eastern daylight time,
cheebug@juno.com writes:

<< jilly was always there to tell us about her step mother's problem with
schalacking her picture of jodie foster with hair spray and she was
obsessed with rose p. before all of us were....i still am. >>

lol!  i remember the step mother thing!  jilly also had a comment for
everything (but not in a bad way) and i miss that.  and she was also quite
obsessed with thalia (from the suffragette session tours)!  i also miss
hanging out with sulli, mark (aka chickenman) and jilly.  but of course now
becky and mandy will wait all night after shows for the girls to come out.
:-)

:-) karen

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hi all,

this might be a generic question, (but i'm a new ig fan who is still
discovering their music).  what is your favorite ig song?  mine is a tie
between "ghost" and "mystery"; those are painfully beautiful.

thanks,

aj
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hello, folks,
   for anyone in southern new jersey, candace gingrich will talk about coming out at a national coming out day program 2 p.m. thursday, oct. 12, in the student center at rowan university in glassboro, nj. it's being sponsored by our gay straight alliance and is free and open to the public. it's the day after the real ncod, for which there is a rally at the university of pennsylvania, but for those who cannot make it to anything on the 11th, we have another option.
deb

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just wanted to say thank you to all of you who showed so much sympathy and
shared kind words with me when i posted about my broken heart the other day.
you are all great.
and of course i have some questions too....first of all i was wondering if
someone could give me the address to the ig romance page that was started
awhile back... and also if anyone had that address for the ig screen saver i
had on my puter.. my ex took it and i am borrowing my brothers old one and
would like to get the girls on it.  you know the one with all the cool pics
and stuff.
thanx again.
tina

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a change of employers and lack of a home computer are the main factors
behind shelley's absence from the list.  a few songs from shelley's
smallternative tape are available in mp3 form at
http://www.mp3.com/poweroftwo - i was going to add more, but i need to get
permissions from the other listees involved.  in shelley's case, we added a
couple of songs from her 1999 demo tape in place of the smallternative
tracks.  other listees represented are tara (using the stage name tara
james) and carrie shafer.  each of them also has her own page on mp3.com -
accessible from the links page on the power of two site.  there are also a
couple of tracks by a certain opinionated guitar player and a couple of his
friends :)

peace,
tim
web page - http://www.havanamoon.8m.com/
mp3 site - http://www.mp3.com/timbaldwin

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wisdom is not truth; truth is not beauty;
beauty is not love; love is not music;
music is the best..." (frank zappa)


> shelley got the nerve to get together a whole bunch of songs written and
> performed by listees and then put them onto a tape that went all around.
> pretty crazy.

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<<let me get this off my chest:  i miss jilly, i miss shelley being on this
list.  okay, i feel better now.>>

yeah, jilly was cool. i wasn't really around for shelley...
i miss i-girl (she was the best)
i miss shpida (she had the greatest name)
i miss when neil was funny and relavant
i miss when people posted tabs to the list
i miss when there were intelligent and deep discussions about the music and
not the extraneous stuff
i miss when snickers used to be called marathon
i miss the black stuff that came out of my nose daily when i lived in london
(really)

things change... people come and go... that's life i guess.

i could probably do something about at least four of the above, but...

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has anyone tried to get this today ?

i went to towerrecords.com and was about to purchase it when i realized you
had to have a special media player.  then i went to the evil empire's website
and tried to download it, but i couldn't because i'm only running win 95.
you need win98 at least to be able to run it.

to sum it all up, this sucks.
this one song was about all i can afford of the new ig stuff right now.
sigh
mel

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<<has anyone tried to get this today ?>>

no - i'm gonna wait 'til i get home and do it there. but here's the url for
folks who can't wait:
http://www.towerrecords.com/product.asp?pfid=2164344

<<i went to towerrecords.com and was about to purchase it when i realized
you had to have a special media player.  then i went to the evil empire's
website and tried to download it, but i couldn't because i'm only running
win 95. you need win98 at least to be able to run it.>>

you need windows media player 6.4 with the atrac3 codec (whatever that is)
installed.

and if you go to the microsoft dowload page hyaah:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/en/download/default.asp
in the drop down box you can download windows media player 6.4 for win
95/nt.

so you should be all set, no??

yer welcome :o)

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any idea if you can move this around?  for example, if i download it at work
is there a way i can see it at home?

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date:         thu, 5 oct 2000 12:07:46 -0400
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i tried to order yesterday and the bonus cd was not on the website, so i
called.  the woman didn't really know why it wasn't on the website, but she
said she'd place the order and put in the bonus cd by hand.  she also didnt
seem to know why it was on the website.  i'd say backorder is a likely
explanation.

chris ii

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what is this?

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ok it looks like my company is sending me out of town next week so i can't go
to the dar show at the warfield :( :( :(  so i need to get rid of my ticket.
the total i paid for it through ticketmaster was $36.95 but i'll take $35 for
it. the last time i went to the warfield it was general admission but my
ticket says section floor, row g1, seat 19... it may still be gen adm but i'm
not entirely sure..

anyway, here are the specific details:
dar williams (opening toshi reagan and catie curtis)
san francisco, ca at the warfield
oct 11, 8pm

i'm hoping someone can paypal me the $35 and then i can fedex you ticket. so
please e-mail me privately.
lisa

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hey all,

  i went to the local (atlanta) tower records and they didn't seem to have the
rereleases there.  they did have retrospective, but the bonus sampler wasn't out
on display so i figured i was out of luck.  i listened to the two new tracks at
one of the listening posts just to make sure it was worth buying the new cd.
(it is.)  when i went up to the counter, the guy put the sampler in my bag with
my purchase, so they did have it after all.  (glad to get a live version of
"ozilline", even though this take isn't that great.)

  i was expecting the two new tracks to be one-off throwaways.  amy's track,
"devotion", is nice enough; but emily's track, "leaving", is _spectacular_ (and
i'm an amy person).  it won't happen, but they should release that to country
radio.  there ought to be a video for it playing on cmt immediately.  it's
gorgeous, easily in the top 5 emily tracks ever for me.

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date:         thu, 5 oct 2000 12:15:26 -0400
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<<i tried to order yesterday and the bonus cd was not on the website, so i
called.  the woman didn't really know why it wasn't on the website>>

they fixed it so that you have to put two ig cds in your shopping cart, then
in the shopping card there's a link that comes up saying words to the effect
of 'add your bonus cd'.

i think i should start charging my time to tower...

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reply-to:     jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com>
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well,

i just placed an order with tower yesterday, and my order shipped today
*with* the bonus cd.  i would call their customer service department
and see what's up.

when you place the order, and you have 2 of the rereleased cd's in you
basket, you get a message saying "order the bonus cd now".  if you
click on that it adds the bonus cd to your basket.

jean


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> i tried to order yesterday and the bonus cd was not on the website,
> so i
> called.  the woman didn't really know why it wasn't on the website,
> but she
> said she'd place the order and put in the bonus cd by hand.  she also
> didnt
> seem to know why it was on the website.  i'd say backorder is a
> likely
> explanation.
>
> chris ii
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hey,

according the the hte website, this point of hope download is not yet
available.  if we buy it from tower, does tower get the proceeds or do
they still go to hte?  anyone know?

also, the tower site says $2.95 or something but when you get to the
sony download window it says $3.60... grrrr...

thanks.

jean

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seems to be happening is half a million protesting in belgrade against =
the regime of president molosevic (sorry if i spelt that wrong...). by =
all accounts, he lost the election in yugoslavia, but he has refused to =
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i started to place an order with tower records the other day, i chose two ig
cds, but i could not get the free sampler to add to my bag and when i
emailed them to ask them how to get the free cd they told me the cds i
picked were not epic releases so i could not get the free cd.  unfortunately
i already ordered all of the re-release cds from ig direct. so i have all of
the epic releases that tower offers.  i really wanted that darn free cd.
just to see what it was, and it sucks to know there is something out there
that you don't have in your collection and it wouldn't even have cost you
anything.  i know, waaaaa, but you guys get what i mean.  anyone get theirs
yet, i am curious to see what it is.

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it was on the cbs radio news as i came to work, a brief thing, and the more
alternative radio news services cover it pretty extensively. so does bbc world,
which we get, at least here in san francisco.


seems like it has not gotten super violent, of which i am glad. but the un ought
to be trying to help enforce the vote (imho), since it was legal and democratic
and all.

all in all, seems like a very good thing coming (with luck) for a country that
has not had much good news lately.
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>has anybody heard anything about this in the states? essentially, what seems to
be happening is half a million protesting in belgrade against the regime of
president molosevic (sorry if i spelt that wrong...). by all accounts, he lost
the election in yugoslavia, but he has refused to accept the result. gradually
the protests have been building, but i think it's come to a head now. the
protesters have stormed the parliament.
>
>there's a lot of coverage about this on the uk news channels - i don't know
what the us coverage is like...
>
>john.

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...when you go to indigogirlsonline.com a little window pops up to say they are epic artists of the week...cool!
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<<any idea if you can move this around?  for example, if i download it at
work is there a way i can see it at home?>>

i checked it out, and yes, you can move it around (i think). so i downloaded
it, and it is _wonderful_. almost seven minutes (and a studio recording to
boot, not the live track i was expecting!)

<<according the the hte website, this point of hope download is not yet
available.  if we buy it from tower, does tower get the proceeds or do they
still go to hte?  anyone know?>>

i would say yes. and probably hte will just point you to tower for the
download.

<<also, the tower site says $2.95 or something but when you get to the sony
download window it says $3.60... grrrr...>>

$2.49 and then changes to $3.60. yup, that sucks, but at least they tell you
somewhere. (it _is_ worth it though).

<<when i emailed them to ask them how to get the free cd they told me the
cds i picked were not epic releases so i could not get the free cd.>>

how can an indigo girls cd not be on epic?? they all are, no? unless it's a
compilation i guess...

<<i really wanted that darn free cd... anyone get theirs yet, i am curious
to see what it is.>>

we were warned - lisa (bless her) told us a couple of weeks ago that there
would be a free cd at tower.
the tracklist has already been posted a couple of times, i won't repeat it
again here :o)

probably what i'll do, at least for myself, is burn the 'new' tracks from
retrospective, the bonus cds and point hope onto cd, then i can listen to
the new tracks in one place. i'm not sure it would be right to make that
available to everyone. unless, i suppose, people affirmed somehow that they
had paid for point hope and owned retrospective (i don't really have a
problem with the sampler tracks).

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<it won't happen, but they should release that ("leaving")to country
radio.>  that's the exact thing i thought when i heard it.  it really has a country feel to it and i think it'd do well there.  on the other hand, after listening to "devotion" all day, i'm coming to love that even more than "leaving."  there's just something very compelling about it.  still, they're both great.

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hey y'all,

i am having trouble finding the download.  once i get to the tower site,
where do i go?

:-) karen

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you can also get it on indigogirlsonline.com

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so sorry for the nigc....but i'm in desperate need of two (or any at this
point)  ani tickets at the hammerstein ballroom for november 3rd....any one
have any extra at all or know of any info that would be available to me?  i
know it's sold out....and i'm desperate!!!  any help would be appreciated,
(email privately of course!!)  thanks in advance!

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does anyone know if tickets are still available for
the shows in nc on oct. 26 and 27?  or how do you even
get tickets to the oct. 26 show?  it's not on the
ticketmaster website.  i'm hoping this doesn't mean
that it's only open to students at that college....

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is there any way to get it besides for windows? like, for mac or even an mp3?


hoping....

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how long does it take to down load. i have made it ( finally 0 to stepo 4 but wonder how long it will take? sparkie

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on thu, 5 oct 2000, elisanne machardy mead wrote:

>
after listening to "devotion" all day, i'm coming to love that even more than "leaving."  there's just something very compelling about it.  still, they're both great.
>
> elisanne\

i think both of the new songs sound really sad, thats the feeling i get.
and i can totally relate to leaving, (not that  im someone who travels
on a day to day basis) with a 3 year long-distance relationship-experiance
under my belt.

totally love both of the new songs, amazing!

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ok.. i broke down and went to the wherehouse in town to get the
retrospective.. i adore it.... not only does it have a great group of songs
but devotion is amazing.. and it's cool to hear leaving and read the
lyrics... it takes on a whole new meaning now that i know what the lyrics
really are :p

and the essay in the front is so nice and the liner notes and now i have to
win the lottery so i can go get the remasters...
lisa

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in a message dated 10/05/2000 6:32:55 pm eastern daylight time,
lisa071573@aol.com writes:

<< and it's cool to hear leaving and read the
lyrics... it takes on a whole new meaning now that i know what the lyrics
really are :p >>

i agree 100%.  at the berkeley show i couldn't get all of the words.  and
both the berkeley and sac boots are really clear, but i still couldn't tell
exactly what she was saying.  i was laughing at what i *thought* some of the
lyrics were after reading the correct lyrics.  oops!

i think these 2 new songs make the retrospective worth it.  as far as the 4
rereleases, i will buy them gradually as i can afford them.

:-) karen

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haven't been near a record store all week, and it is bugging me, because,
besides ig (who i do adore, but it's a greatest hits album and two new
songs. hmmmph...kid a by radiohead, and the new paul simon album, both have
had amazing reviews also came out this week, and i'm still in ecstacy from
the first couple of the pearl jam officail bootlegs  (i bought katowice
night 2 and pink pop fest, katowice 2 is phenomial!!!)

i dunno - i may buy rop reissued and the retrospective.(and are the live
tracks from the first show of the 10 dollar tour in 1993? dang, that boot is
good, but why not release the first fugitive, also playled that night for
the first time, or was it reunion. sigh, i'm babbling)

but -
did anyone download the solo live version of amy doing devotion off of
napster, it must be from the daemon tour - i grabbed it mon night. i've been
busy or sleeping most of the week.

i really need to hear the new songs soon tho - point of hope being released
as a wma file - yecchhh...i will buy that soon

anyone have the tower disc uploaded in mp3???

mike reynolds
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yep i agree.. i thought leaving went "but if i were" instead of "but if
weren't leaving you" and the song takes on an entirely different meaning if
you look at it that way.. interesting interesting...

now i'm just dying to read the liner notes on the remasters :p
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it's available online at discs & dats, which is the indie cd store i
used to shop at back in illinois. how wierd... just had to share.

bye now -
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so, everywhere i've looked, it says the download is windows media and
won't work on a mac (which i've found to be true). how sucky is that?
argh. why don't they just make 'em mp3 format, which is universal?

just curious...

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hi folks-
i have two questions i'm hoping somebody can answer for me!

(1) i have a bunch of ig mp3s that i would like to email someone, b/c
the recipient cannot get them from my files through the im transfer
option. i did manage to send one via email, by selecting the mp3 file,
then right-clicking on it, and choosing the 'send to' option. this
method worked, and the person could successfully open and listen to the
song i'd sent, but it took forever to upload on my end, so i'm wondering
if there's a faster way to send them, and if it's possible to send the
whole group in one email? i have a quite a few to send, and if possible,
i don't want to tie up my computer for a bizillion years! (btw- if
anyone else would like access to my mp3 files, i'm happy to share, just
email me off-list)

(2) i downloaded pt. hope foia and as well as the atrac3 codec, i'm
using windows 98, and running windows media player 7.0. every time i try
to open pt. hope, my internet dial-up icon pops up and starts to try to
log onto the internet. at first, i kept clicking 'cancel', but the song
would never begin to play. then, i let my modem connect to the net, to
see what web page this forced connection would open on, but it would
just load my regular home page. have i downloaded the track incorrectly?
am i just not opening it properly? please help!!! i'm very frustrated
and dying to hear the new amy song!!

thanks y'all. any and all is greatly appreciated and gratefully
accepted! thanks much!
marian

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sitting here listening to these two songs...in a way it feels as if there =
is more emotion and self-exposure in these songs that what there has been =
in previous , relatively anyway . maybe because it has the harmonies an =
such..i don't know...the lyric seem to be concise yet paint a wonderful =
picture.....the line ..its here dusk and there dawn is a very powerful =
concept.......

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<<so, everywhere i've looked, it says the download is windows media and
won't work on a mac (which i've found to be true). how sucky is that? argh.
why don't they just make 'em mp3 format, which is universal?>>

because they can put some kind of copy protection on this format. which is
why everyone (including me) has had problems with it. so that people can't
put 'em on napster so easily. it works perfectly on my pc at work, but at
home i've had to reinstall windows media player, but i can't do that because
the microsoft download center isn't working :o(

i'll be converting it to .wav and mp3 tomorrow, one way or another!

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o dear yes that is quite a photo.and she looks *thin*, i'd guess it might have
been shortly after her illness and surgery, those tend to make you look less
than your best.


>1.  i think amy actually took that picture herself.  i (being the dork i
>am) have taken plenty of self pictures, so i think i'm pretty sure that
>she took that picture.  not that i think amy's a dork.  heck no, but i'm
>just saying that it looks like she took her own picture there.  no, i am
>the dork.  amy is not.  and i'm not saying that if you take pictures of
>yourself that you're a dork.  you know what i mean.

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in a message dated 10/05/2000 6:46:43 pm eastern daylight time,
lisa071573@aol.com writes:

<< yep i agree.. i thought leaving went "but if i were" instead of "but if
weren't leaving you" and the song takes on an entirely different meaning if
you look at it that way.. interesting interesting... >>

yeah, that is exactly what i heard!  and talk about being way off, instead of
"all i know to do is go," i heard "honey, all i want to do is go home"  way
off.  oh, and i totally missed the jet fuel line.

:-) karen

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well, after seeing her perform at the first 3 hte shows, i can say she looks
pretty damn healthy to me. i agree that the picture may have been a little
old. she was in top form at great falls.

ryan

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> o dear yes that is quite a photo.and she looks *thin*, i'd guess
> it might have
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> you look less
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>
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> >1.  i think amy actually took that picture herself.  i (being the dork i
> >am) have taken plenty of self pictures, so i think i'm pretty sure that
> >she took that picture.  not that i think amy's a dork.  heck no, but i'm
> >just saying that it looks like she took her own picture there.  no, i am
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ok i'm having trouble with the download...  i go to tower, do an artist
search for indigo girls, scroll through the stuff, find pt hope, add it to my
basket and then try to check out and i get an error message.. anyone else
having this trouble???

and it's a real download right? that you actually download to your computer
and it's a file you can move around?? just checking :p

anyway, if anyone has any suggestions, let me know..
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oh oops forgot to post this with the other message.. is anyone planning to go
to the rockrgrl conference and tape amy's speech?? i am hoping to go but i
don't think i can afford the extra $120 that allows you to get into the
speeches. jude and i are hoping someone is planning to tape her speech..
(otherwise i'll start up a collection so i can afford the rest of the
registration ;)

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just a note. as amy was introducing point of hope in billings, she explained
how they were releasing it over the internet and said "go buy it. i don't
care about the others but buy this one because the money goes to hte." well,
that's as exact as i can remember. so, we could imply she doesn't care (once
again) about all the bootlegs out there but is just asking us this once not
to boot poh. so i think in deference to that, i am going to delete the track
from my boots and encourage people to download it. it is a beautiful (yet
tragic) song.

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so, i've already bought strange fire re-release on cd, and have ordered indigo girls on mini disc from cdnow.com but is on back-order with no ship date available...
i would really like to purchase the others on mini disc since i already have the cds...
so what i am wondering is if anyone knows when the mini discs might be coming available?? or where i can buy them now???

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i went to my local tower, and they had hundreds of the bonus cds.  the nice
clerk gave me one when i only bought one cd...
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i don't get the excitement over devotion.  seems too busy and unfocused to me.
:ducking::
i love 'leaving" though.

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okay ...here's my tip if you think devotion is too busy...move your balance to the left 1/2 way...i think you might like it better! d:)
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> i don't get the excitement over devotion.  seems too busy and unfocused to me.


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in a message dated 10/5/2000 8:09:43 pm central daylight time,
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<< so, i've already bought strange fire re-release on cd, and have ordered
indigo girls on mini disc from cdnow.com but is on back-order with no ship
date available...
i would really like to purchase the others on mini disc since i already have
the cds...
so what i am wondering is if anyone knows when the mini discs might be
coming available?? or where i can buy them now??? >>

i'd be interesting in purchasing the md's (instead of the cd's) as well.  but
when i saw them listed, i wasn't sure if they were the remastered versions or
just the regular ones.  does anyone know?

:-) karen

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in a message dated 10/5/00 6:49:38 pm pacific daylight time,
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> okay ...here's my tip if you think devotion is too busy...move your balance
> to the left 1/2 way...i think you might like it better! d:)
i meant to say i don't like the mixing/production very much.  i think i'd
like it a lot better with just amy and a guitar...

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from:         jon griffin <jackdavinci@dreamsmithdesigns.com>
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subject:      re: a gripe about the download
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despite the name "windows" there is actually a windows media player for
macintosh
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/en/download/macintosh.asp
but i do agree, they should provide a more universal standard.

jack

amy swenson wrote:

> so, everywhere i've looked, it says the download is windows media and
> won't work on a mac (which i've found to be true). how sucky is that?
> argh. why don't they just make 'em mp3 format, which is universal?

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date:         thu, 5 oct 2000 23:18:13 -0400
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right now i've got each ig cd copied onto a blank so i can listen when
mobile, but would love to have the 'real' ones... if anyone gets more
info, i'd appreciate being let know if it's not to the list :o)

thanks!
  -- sarah

on thu, 5 oct 2000 indigokare@aol.com wrote:

> in a message dated 10/5/2000 8:09:43 pm central daylight time,
> i'd be interesting in purchasing the md's (instead of the cd's) as well.  but
> when i saw them listed, i wasn't sure if they were the remastered versions or
> just the regular ones.  does anyone know?
>
> :-) karen

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can you guys tell me which songs are on the bonus cd please? i would like to
get one somehow but, stupid me, i bought the new cd before i knew about the
bonus cd and i already have all of their other cds. :(

thanks,
michelle

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in a message dated 10/5/00 8:26:33 pm pacific daylight time, mauseee76@cs.com
writes:

> can you guys tell me which songs are on the bonus cd please? i would like to
>  get one somehow but, stupid me, i bought the new cd before i knew about the
>  bonus cd and i already have all of their other cds. :(
get out the map, andy, ozillene, gone again (live) and acoustic wood song.

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hey peeps!

for all of you indigo heads who are going to be in a-t-l on october 28
for the earth challenge concert, read below.

boy and girl, do we have a list meet set to make you twirl!

first of all let us take time to think about something other than
"devotion" or "point hope" because i know if you're like me, you've
listened to "devotion" so many times that you've even noticed the way
cool drum beat and the up beat after "when it rains it pours down" at
1:15.  so listen up::::  the meeting will be held officially and
unofficially and probably very drunkenly at jocs and jills.  this is a
bar/cafe, and catherine spinale has already called, talked to the manager
there, and has okayed it with her.  we will meet just outside of jocs and
jills.  i will have a huge sign that will read something like "indigo
girls sociallist" or "indigo heads list" or just "the list".  i'll
probably be in the park just across the street from the cnn center
gathering listees.  so far we have about 20-30 people coming.

"booger days, the way things lay"  (that's how i sing it anyway)

of course naturally,
chee bugger


ps.  does anyone know if the appalachian state show is sold out?
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here's my take on the whole god dawg point hope bootlegging situation.  i
have a bootleg of it that i just can't live without:  it's on my
perpetual "little darling" running tape.

i was researching the bureau of land management and usgs files on the
internet when i ran upon a message board dedicated to native artic
cultures.  i posted a bit about the new song "pt hope".  i got e-mails
from all types of people including professors who wanted to hear the
song.  i sent them all a copy of my bootleg.  i also told them to go to
the ig web site to down load the song.  sometimes bootlegging comes in
handy.  i think this is why amy and emily don't care.  but, with pt hope,
i think they just want some money to show, you know?  of course you do.
;)

> just a note. as amy was introducing point of hope in billings, she
> explained
> how they were releasing it over the internet and said "go buy it. i
> don't
> care about the others but buy this one because the money goes to
> hte." well,
> that's as exact as i can remember. so, we could imply she doesn't
> care (once
> again) about all the bootlegs out there but is just asking us this
> once not
> to boot poh. so i think in deference to that, i am going to delete
> the track
> from my boots and encourage people to download it. it is a beautiful
> (yet
> tragic) song.

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date:         thu, 5 oct 2000 23:47:25 -0700
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ok, i feel really stupid...of course it's 3 a.m. so i
have at least a partial excuse.... but i cannot find
where to download point hope on any of those sites
that are listed on indigogirlsonline.com  i've tried
at least half (or more) of the 40 something places
listed where you're supposed to be able to download
the song and for some reason i just can't find the
download anywhere.  i must be doing something wrong.
it's 3 a.m. but still....

*feeling like an idiot*
sharon

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cdnow are advertising the retrospective and reissued albums for sale in minidisc
format.  i ordered the retrospective one, but got an e-mail to say its been
backordered, so now i'm all confused, but still hopeful.

fare thee well,
mollyig


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hey y'all,

i am still planning on downloading poh (probably later today), and i am even
more willing after reading ryan's post about what amy said about the
download.  but i have a question.  i am not a big time fan of digital music.
i guess i just prefer good ol' cd's,  or even tapes.  the problem with
digital music for me is that i can only listen to it while i am by my
computer or on md (if i transfer it, which i don't do often b/c i really only
use my md while i am working out and i already have heaps of md's i haven't
listened to).  basically, i listen to the majority of my music in the car and
on my stereo (which i can not even connect my md to yet).  does anyone know
if the girls ever plan to release poh as a single or on an album?  i think it
would be great if they released it as a single.  then all the money could go
to benefit honor the earth and people who don't have computers, or just don't
really like digital music, could fully enjoy the song.  it is a great song --
i have it on some bootlegs (yes, i am still going to download it.  i want the
studio version), so therefore i have already heard it.  anyway, just a
thought.

:-) karen

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"for the love of rock" <http://www.loveofrock.com/>, a documentary about female musicians featuring amy ray, melissa ferrick, jane siberry, doria roberts, kate schellenbach, and more, is showing at dc's reel affirmations film festival on sunday, 10/15, at 1pm <http://www.reelaffirmations.org/filmfest/schedule.cfm>.  the directors will be there to discuss the film.

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more bands are confirmed for the show now:
jennifer nettles band :)
brand new immortals
speech (former members of arrested development i
think)

should be an awesome day.  pray for good weather
:)carrie

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where can i get the lyric to leaving and devotion....they are not up on lifeblood as of yet.

thanks

~di

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gonna drive up to sedona for the jackson brown ig show and then to =
windowrock on monday for hte show.....hope the weather is good....


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hello all. i apologize for this totally being off the subject of the indigo
girls but i would love to get some feedback on this.

i live in knoxville tn and a friend of mine told me about a billboard sign
posted along a road here. the sign reads "stop crime. get a gun."

is it just me, or is something really wrong with this? i can't see the
correlation even in my messed up mind. it's really getting some talk here.
has anyone else saw this in the place where you live? is it a nationwide
thing someone has paid for.

my friend who saw it is from new york. he summed it up wonderfully when he
said "only in east tennessee." i agree. but what do you all think. is it
just me that's totally taken back by a sign or should i be?

chad

ps. i appreciate any input. good. or bad.

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well, stay tuned cuz i have a couple of pretty sweet boots on md and as soon
as i complete the trades i currently owe, i will work on these.

ryan


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> from: indigo girls mailing list [mailto:indigo-girls@netspace.org]on
> behalf of elaine bean
> sent: tuesday, october 03, 2000 7:25 am
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> subject: angel from montgomery
>
>
> as much as i love em, and i'm sure the ig could do a lovely version of
> this, . . . but nobody, ever can outshine bonnie's version!!!  you know,
> some versions just can't be improved on!  (of course, this is all a
> matter of opinion, and we all know that the only opinion that's right is
> your own  - only kidding, or am i?)  :)
>
> actually, i'd love to hear the ig do this with bonnie.
>
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hi all
    since i live in the boonies of maine, i had to wait til today to go
down to our one and only local cd store, everyday music, in order to buy
the retrospective. well, i put the cd back after seeing the whopping price
of $17.99 on the sticker. i seem to remember all of you discussing the cd
price a few days back and i don't remember it being that high! luckily,
some friends of mine offered to pick me up a cheaper copy on their way to
massachusetts. what's the story?
sharon

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am i nuts or does slobodon milosovic look like he could be newt =
gingrich's brother?

mg
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leaving (emily saliers)

chords quickly picked out by neil@andineil.com because the intro sounded
somewhat like tracks of my tears, and that's one of the few things i can
play...

intro:
a, a, d, a
a, e, d, a

             a
jet fuel and traffic lines
                  e
pulling up to the delta signs
                 bm
distant shape of my hometown
                      d
black stain where the wheels touch down

              a
i pick up the morning news
                         e
pass the man who's never shined my shoes
                     bm
through security and to the train
                       d
that'll take me to the aeroplane

a, a, d, a

                       a
count the miles on the highway
           e
the sum of all my days
                   bm
there's a postcard there's a call
                           d
there's a picture for your bedroom wall

                       a
but do you ever wonder through and through
                           e
who's that person standing next to you
                  bm
and after all the nights apart
                      d
is there a home for a travelling heart

chorus:
                 a  e    bm  d
but if i weren't leaving you
             a    e   bm  d
i don't know what i'd do
               a             bm
but the more i go the less i know
                    a          d
will the fire still burn on my return
            bm              a/c#        d
to keep the path lit is the only road i know
       bm            e     a
honey, all i know to do is go

a, a, d, a
a, e, d, a

                     a
cup of coffee and my bags are packed
                e
same vow not to look back
              bm
familiar emptiness inside
            d
as the distances grow wide

                    a
and though i vow to memorize
                      e
the last look in your loving eyes
                   bm
it's here dusk and there dawn
                           d
it's like a curtain gettin slowly drawn

chorus

etc. to fade...

i thank you
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sorry, i know that during these last few  days
you've talked a lot about point hope...alas,
i have been gone, and consequently don't know how to  access this
download.

i've gone to honor the earth and  the official ig website, and don't
know where the button is. webtv can use windows media player  now

peace
barb.

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you know, i thought the same thing and even went further and was thinking,
wouldn't it be funny if they did release it to country radio stations and
indigo girls suddenly became the biggest thing to hit country music since
ummmm....garth brooks?
oh and i agree about leaving too...sang it while driving all the way home
from montana. oh and i have to say every time i see leaving my first
response is "aww someone's leaving the list." d'oh!

ryan

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do, but upon the meaning and purpose of their acts. wisdom about life
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glorifying them." -elton trueblood


> -----original message-----
> it won't happen, but they should release
> that to country
> radio.  there ought to be a video for it playing on cmt immediately.  it's
> gorgeous, easily in the top 5 emily tracks ever for me.

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remember the good old days when john and yoko took out all those billboards
that said happy xmas war is over if you want it?

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i got it for 13.98 at tower.

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<<i agree, they should apply a more universal standard.>>

amen, amen!  if they use a universal standard
that doesn't involve stinkin' credit cards, people like me who refuse to
be victims of these plastic
monsters would be able to afford this song.

i'm sorry guys, i really am, i tried to access this song on tower
records, but i can't for lack of a credit card.  i say the girls find a
way to release this song to everyone whether that be via  a
daemon single or whatever anything..... just so long as the song is
accessible to all   income levels,  who would love to buy the song, and
support hte. i don't like feeling pushed to the way-side because of my
income level

why didn't they put it on retrospective?
(yeah yeah yeah i know i know ony makes those decisions. yeah well. )

i'm bummin'!  big time dang it.
barb

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in a message dated 10/6/00 8:35:50 pm pacific daylight time, hawke2@blarg.net
writes:

> indigo girls suddenly became the biggest thing to hit country music since
>  ummmm....garth bro
i don't think so.  country people seem to be pretty homophobic.  just look at
the way kd lang was treated in nashville.  it's why she stopped doing
country.  she said the only person there who was nice to her was minnie pearl.

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ok.. i absolutely cannot get the friggen file to download.. i tried tower
again from my computer at home - i still get an error message when i try to
checkout. so i went to www.indigogirlsonline/honortheearth and tried to go
through a different vendor.. well i tried about 10 of the other ones listed
and all i get to is www.thestore24.com with no goddamn download and a really
annoying popup telling me over and over and over again how the offspring want
to give me $100,000.

so um... any more help is appreciated.. or if anyone's converted the song to
mp3 can you let me know and i'll write a check to honor the earth for $3.60
???

grrr....
lisa

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in a message dated 10/7/00 12:04:41 am eastern daylight time,
ritesofpassage9@webtv.net writes:

<< amen, amen!  if they use a universal standard
that doesn't involve stinkin' credit cards, people like me who refuse to
be victims of these plastic
monsters would be able to afford this song. >>


get a debit card and you won't have the problem of the "plastic monster"


indi

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<<i don't think so.  country people seem to be pretty homophobic.  just look at
the way kd lang was treated in nashville.  it's why she stopped doing
country.  she said the only person there who was nice to her was minnie pearl.>>
.yeah, but i think things are changing. look at how friendly dixie chicks are with ig; i read some travis tritt quotes one time about how he had a big gay following and he thought that was cool (more record sales, he said). i think garth is supportive, and i think emmylou harris is, too.
.i got the retro today at tower in cherry hill, nj, after stopping at borders in marlton, nj, and they were clueless about any promo copy. i probably missed this by being too quick on the delete button, but are the songs on the promos the same at both tower and borders, just different packaging? tower's has live versions of "get out the map," "andy," "ozilline" and "gone again," and an acoustic studio version of "wood song."
thanks,
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hey all,

lisa suggested that someone convert the song to mp3 and then make a donation
to hte.  i was actually thinking about if it would be wrong to have this be
some sort of list project (what i mean by that is for listees who can not get
the dl for various reasons).  the reason this thought came to my mind was
because one of dar williams' fans has a deal where you can get her early
recordings for a $20 donation to one of dar's environmental trust funds (that
is why i always cringe when i see the dar early recordings on peoples' boot
trading lists).

i wonder if it would be possible (with premission of course) for someone set
such a project up.  i am not volunteering because as i said earlier today, i
am not a fan of digital music.  therefore i have no clue how to convert
something into an mp3 file.

i think that the idea of a charity donation for a song is a great idea.  but
i just don't think that a download is accessible or desirable to everyone.

just an idea...

:-) karen

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ok, so i finally got through the error messages to buy it (lisa, the reason i
got error messages is because i didn't have the right player installed.  so i
fixed that and then tower allowed me to purchase it).

but it is taking my computer forever to download (and i have a fast
conncetion).  how long did it take y'all to download?

since i don't really like digital music, i think i am going to have my friend
burn it onto cd for me so i can listen to it whenever i want (it is a great
song -- love the live versions i have...)

:-) karen

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in a message dated 10/7/00 12:46:17 am eastern daylight time,
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<< <>

deb said

<<.yeah, but i think things are changing. look at how friendly dixie chicks
are with ig; i read some travis tritt quotes one time about how he had a big
gay following and he thought that was cool (more record sales, he said). i
think garth is supportive, snip....... >>


you think garth is?    :)  actually garth was one of the few(only?) straight
performers at equality rocks.  his sister is gay and he has been very
supportive of the gay community......  just fyi

indi

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i just called the san francisco tower record store, asking about the bonus
promo cd. the guy put me on hold to go check and i hear that oh so dear husky
voice "hi this is amy from the indigo girls and since you are on hold i have
some news to share with you about our october tour, honor the earth....." in
the background you can hear  tried to be true.

when he came back on the line to tell me they didn't have the promos in stock
:p i asked to put *back* on hold so i could amy's sweet message again.
ah, love ;)

katherine

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i wrote,
<<i think garth is supportive, snip....... >>
indi replied..
<<you think garth is?    :)  actually garth was one of the few(only?)
straightperformers at equality rocks.  his sister is gay and he has been very
supportive of the gay community......  just fyi>>
i reply: i knew that. i was just, uh, covering my bases, uh, in case my
feeble memory was, uh, failing me...:-)
deb

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ohmygod!!!  my computer finally finished downloading point of hope.  it is
amazing!  i love the studio version.  i like it so much better than the live
versions i have.  (granted, my boots aren't always the highest quality).

the word that i think best describes the studio version is haunting.  in an
odd way, it reminds me of the hidden track of sister at the end of cons.

3 new awesome ig songs in one week...

:-) karen

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ok, so this may not be totally appropriate to this list, but...email me off
list if you have any replies...

i keep telling myself .... next paycheck i'll be able to buy retro/live at
the fillmore/and some of the new re-releases.  (i haven't gotten any of them
yet. no, i'm not looking for pity, i've gotten mp3s of the new songs, though)

also, i've told myself for over a year...'self, you should buy all of
michelle malone's stuff...you should buy the butchies' two albums...you
should get some daemon releases...you should buy ani's two latest releases
(is it really worth it??)'  i have a list of 'cool music stuff to aquire at a
later date' that's a page and a half long.

the question is...does it ever catch up with you?  or, i guess, does one ever
get enough music to be satisfied?

and, really, no matter what direction the indigo girls' music will take (and
i mean it, i like it all..folky country/punkish heavy stuff/hell, they could
do a ska song or two [little plastic castle, anyone?? (: ] and i'd love it. )
i will most probably always be a huge fan.  they are on top of my eclectic
music obsessions list.

this is going to keep me poor forever, isn't it?  (:
that and the fact that i'm ecruing much debt trying to get this english lit.
degree (hell, maybe it'll be the 'computer science' degree of the 00's.  [i
doubt it.])

aww, well, at least it's poverty with great tunes,
mel

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forgot to add this:

if anyone has interpretations (read: lyrics) for laramie, lucy stoners and
pt. of hope/little darling send them my way.
(i'm really bad at lyrics, and lifeblood hasn't been updated for a while.)
mel, again.

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in a message dated 10/06/2000 9:46:08 pm pacific daylight time,
woodelldc@aol.com writes:

<<  are the songs on the promos the same at both tower and borders, just
different packaging? tower's has live versions of "get out the map," "andy,"
"ozilline" and "gone again," and an acoustic studio version of "wood song." >>

i got the retro one from borders, and after some initial confusion (2 clerks
said they either didn't have the bonus or it was out of stock) another clerk
told us that the bonus cd was included *in* the actual packaging--and indeed
it was.

the soundtrack is different from the tower promo, though. mine from borders
has 1) mystery (studio accoustic) 2) reunion (studio accoustic) 3) shame on
you (live board mix-summer 2000)

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i saw someone with a daemon records shirt on the other day, and on the back
it had the letters feral ( i think).  anyone know what that stands for?

thanks,
amanda

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indigokare@aol.com wrote:

> i think that the idea of a charity donation for a song is a great idea.  but
> i just don't think that a download is accessible or desirable to everyone.

good idea karen.  yeah, i'm one of those people.  while the computer is
a wonderful instrument that has opened the doors yada yada yada, etc,
etc., etc., i find myself actively resisting a lot of the stuff
computers allow you to do, such as downloads, videos, webcasts etc.  for
me, i could easily learn how to do these things, but i don't really want
to - i know if i did that i would become obsessed and spend way too much
time online - i don't want to do that.  right now, ignorance is bliss.
i feel that my time could be spent more productively doing non-computer
related things (but don't you dare take away my email).  don't get me
wring, the computer is great, and most people can handle the balance
between online usage and not.  i work on a computer all day at work,
find myself in front of a computer 3-4 hours a night doing homework, and
i think i spend way too much time on one.  i'd prefer not to spend more
time than i need online.

anyway, enough rambling.  if someone could make me a copy of the song,
i'd be happy to make a donation to hte.

elaine - happy in my self-imposed computer exile

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btw, how much are they charging to download poh?

elaine

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i got this from a friend if anyone is interested please email her at: =
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thanks,
kat

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frankly, the whole downloading thing sounds like it is fraught with peril.
if i find it somewhere and its not an official site i think i should be able
to just get it and then send a donation to hte. in fact, why not just send a
donation anyway, then all bases will be covered!
l.
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> here's my take on the whole god dawg point hope bootlegging situation.  i
> have a bootleg of it that i just can't live without:  it's on my
> perpetual "little darling" running tape.
>
> i was researching the bureau of land management and usgs files on the
> internet when i ran upon a message board dedicated to native artic
> cultures.  i posted a bit about the new song "pt hope".  i got e-mails
> from all types of people including professors who wanted to hear the
> song.  i sent them all a copy of my bootleg.  i also told them to go to
> the ig web site to down load the song.  sometimes bootlegging comes in
> handy.  i think this is why amy and emily don't care.  but, with pt hope,
> i think they just want some money to show, you know?  of course you do.
> ;)
>
> > just a note. as amy was introducing point of hope in billings, she
> > explained
> > how they were releasing it over the internet and said "go buy it. i
> > don't
> > care about the others but buy this one because the money goes to
> > hte." well,
> > that's as exact as i can remember. so, we could imply she doesn't
> > care (once
> > again) about all the bootlegs out there but is just asking us this
> > once not
> > to boot poh. so i think in deference to that, i am going to delete
> > the track
> > from my boots and encourage people to download it. it is a beautiful
> > (yet
> > tragic) song.
>
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after i was bitten hard by credit cards (am running from $3000 worth of
debt and to me that's a lot of money) the solution to having  to borrow my
mom's card when i wanted to order tickets or anything was to get a debit
card. i'm so much more responsible with it, and it acts just like a credit
card when i need it to.  it's just a plastic check, that's all, and you
can't spend money you don't have if you have the right bank.  i do have one
friend whose bank allows her to overdraw up to $25 and then charges her
this huge amount of money, but my bank is friendly and just cuts me
off.  i've spent less money since i got this card than before.
i hate to say it but our society is headed towards plastic, not away from
it. i'm just grateful that someone invented an alternative to the evil
credit card.
i also think that people who peddle credit cards to poor stupid college
students ought to be hung up by their thumbs.
sharon

at 11:01 pm 10/6/00 -0500, barbara bordner wrote:
><<i agree, they should apply a more universal standard.>>
>
>amen, amen!  if they use a universal standard
>that doesn't involve stinkin' credit cards, people like me who refuse to
>be victims of these plastic
>monsters would be able to afford this song.
>
>i'm sorry guys, i really am, i tried to access this song on tower
>records, but i can't for lack of a credit card.  i say the girls find a
>way to release this song to everyone whether that be via  a
>daemon single or whatever anything..... just so long as the song is
>accessible to all   income levels,  who would love to buy the song, and
>support hte. i don't like feeling pushed to the way-side because of my
>income level
>
>why didn't they put it on retrospective?
>(yeah yeah yeah i know i know ony makes those decisions. yeah well. )
>
>i'm bummin'!  big time dang it.
>barb
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lot's o' questions, lots o' answers...

personal note: if anyone asks one more time what the bonus tracks on the
tower / borders promo are, or what's up with the download i will scream -
details have been posted more than once!! and i don't want any wise guys
trying to push my buttons either. so there.
end gripe.

<<i say the girls find a way to release this song to everyone whether that
be via  a daemon single or whatever anything..... just so long as the song
is accessible to all   income levels,  who would love to buy the song, and
support hte. i don't like feeling pushed to the way-side because of my
income level>>
<<btw, how much are they charging to download poh?>>

i don't see what your income level has to do with it (as long as you have
the $3.60 to spare, oh, and access to a computer, i suppose, duh. but the
point was made in reference to the fact that you need a credit card). you
can get a debit card that works like a credit card but you can only use it
if you have the required funds in your checking account.
what they _are_ doing is making it available ~only~ to those in the usa .
not that there are hundreds of thousands of fans abroad, but... it's hard to
see how this will stay an internet only release forever. new honor benefit
album, anyone??

<<country people seem to be pretty homophobic.>>

we went to see richard shindell the other week, and the opener mary gauthier
(go see her!) was so proud of winning the glama award for gay country artist
of the year. she said (and i'm sure you can imagine) the competition was
immense...

<<i saw someone with a daemon records shirt on the other day, and on the
back it had the letters feral ( i think). anyone know what that stands
for?>>

feral (frl, fr-) adj.
existing in a wild or untamed state.
having returned to an untamed state from domestication.

one of daemon's sampler cassettes (from 1994 or so) was called feral.

<<lisa suggested that someone convert the song to mp3 and then make a
donation to hte.  i was actually thinking about if it would be wrong to have
this be some sort of list project...  i wonder if it would be possible (with
premission of course) for someone set such a project up.>>

i had mentioned something similar also. and as i said i'd be happy to do it,
and include the tower/borders bonus tracks for those who didn't get those.

the problem would be in the getting permission part, so that part might have
to be skipped. but if anyone has an inside track to the indigo girls, their
management, record label, pet sitter... the problem here is that obviously
they didn't want to just let people have an mp3 in the first place. they had
to add all this copy protection crap. so by allowing this that would be kind
of admitting that they screwed up (which in my opinion, they did).

but yeah, good idea in principle, but all it takes is one person to
inadvertantly put it in their napster folder. and things like that have
happened before here, otherwise i wouldn't be so cynical.

on with the day...

neil
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feral is not an acronym for anything, as far as i know, it's the word
feral, and it's supposed to refer to this indie music--you know, something
that is supposed to be domesticated but is wild...
sharon


at 02:31 am 10/7/00 -0400, indigome1@aol.com wrote:
>i saw someone with a daemon records shirt on the other day, and on the back
>it had the letters feral ( i think).  anyone know what that stands for?
>
>thanks,
>amanda

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it's actually because pearl jam, who is on sony, had already tried.

last kiss (you've all heard it, great cover, played to death) was released
as a fan club single. when the kosovo tragedy was unfolding the band was
going to release it as mp3, sony was morified because of the precident, and
pledged a mil,lion dollars to aid the relief and that is when the no
boundaries record was released (which is an incredible cd) so the cd was
released to prevent labels selling mp3, but wma files can be hacked in a
gazillion different ways (streambox ripper, total recorder, unfuck, among
others.
i gotta agree it should have had a cd release because unix cant play a wma
file (to my knowledge, i know someone has probably hacked something together
already.

i *still* havent been to a record store (51 bucks to see bnl in portland,
me, give me a break, i liked them in boston a couple weeks ago but couldn't
justify the $$ - i also got seats to paul simon at the orpheum)

so yes, i praised the lord when i got paul simon seats that are amazing!

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sorry - when exactly is the centennial park show? is this the hte one that's
free? thanks for the info. ;)

katie

in a message dated 10/6/00 3:51:29 pm eastern daylight time,
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<<
more bands are confirmed for the show now:
jennifer nettles band :)
brand new immortals
speech (former members of arrested development i
think)

should be an awesome day.  pray for good weather
:)carrie

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> the word that i think best describes the studio
> version is haunting.  in an
> odd way, it reminds me of the hidden track of sister
> at the end of cons.

what hidden track of sister???  am i missing
something?  my cons cd had a hidden track philosophy
of love...is there one with a different version of
sister or something?

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hey all-

so i downloaded everything successfully and i'm having trouble actually
playing the thing.  i'm frustrated!  when i try to play it it gives me a
webpage that says "if you're having trouble playing, it could be a permit
problem, follow this process."  i follow the process, it says it was
successful and i can now open the file, but when i try to open it again it
does the same thing.  anyone help me?

thanks y'all!

chris

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ok i give..i can't get it either...sooo if you are one of those lucky people
who could..could you at least tell us where you downloaded it from?..thanks
bunches..

carla ;o)

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hey all,

so, i finally have almost successfully alighted back on earth and in the
real world after what was most probably the most incredible week in my
entire life. (and said week included a speeding ticket and a blown-out
tire, so you know it had to have been pretty in-freaking-credible to
cancel those out.)

so, for those interested, i thought i'd post a brief review of the mt
tour. (after having finished writing this, i'll warn you now, it's not as
brief as i make it sound. just be forewarned.)

great falls (10/2)

indigenous was not at this show. so, a local guy from browning, mt by the
name of ed juneau opened the whole thing. he was pretty country-western,
but i liked him. joan baez followed with the same songs she sang in
billings (there but for fortune, the spiritual which i do not know the
name of, and world falls and don't think twice w/ig). she also did
diamonds and rust with emily. that was totally awesome and i think what
was almost greater was sitting there (6th row, em side), looking up at
those two singing and then, looking over at the side of the stage and
seeing amy and bonnie raitt standing there, looking like they were in as
much awe of the whole thing as i was. intense.

next, the girls came on. i, once again, don't have the complete setlist,
but i'm pretty sure i remembered most of the songs. perhaps someone else
who was there (i.e. ryan?) could help me out? amyray, here's what i have
(in no particular order):

get out the map
shame on you
love's recovery
go ("a very acoustic version of a very electric song", says amy)
point hope (i know this is picky, but it is called point hope, not point
*of* hope...actually it's point hope foia, if you really want to get
picky. anyone know what foia stands for?)
wood song
galileo
closer to fine
they may have done gone again too, but i simply can't remember.

there was this really obnoxious girl who kept yelling "bonnie!" while
everyone else was out there. after the first time, emily said, "yeah,
bonnie's going to be out here later. we're the indigo girls!" then, the
stupid girl kept it up and i think the girls were starting to get a little
short on patience, so emily said, "maybe now would be a good time for you
to go to the bathroom. then, by the time you get back...she'll be here!"
and amy said, "i think sometimes we all find ourselves screaming 'bonnie!'
in the middle of the night. just don't do it in the middle of a song." i
think she finally shut up after that.

this crowd, in general, seemed to be very comfortable with trying to
communicate with the performers during the show (yelling "we love you" and
whatnot), which i really don't mind unless they're being obnoxious as the
above woman was. at one point, emily was talking about how much they liked
montana and some girl yelled "move here!" emily just sort of stood there
and smiled for a few seconds and said, "i'm feeling speechless."

the grand finale was, once again, angel from montgomery with everyone and
it was as gorgeous as the time before.

bozeman (10/3)

this was dar williams' first show with the tour. amy was mia (anyone here
about where she was?). dar opened with when i was a boy and played a
couple songs i was not familiar with and played are you out there. then,
indigenous came on and played five or six songs. i think this was the
first show where bonnie came on and played guitar with them on one song.

emily came on all by her little self after indigenous. of course, i missed
amy, but i was excited to see what emily would play by herself. she came
out and said something about missing amy and how amy is like her "phantom
limb" and then, she turned to the mic where amy usually is and said, "hi,
ame." it was too cute. i don't know how to explain it, but she just looked
so vulnerable when she came out there and was standing there all by
herself. but, she was vibrant and her short set was awesome (and the
thoughts of vulnerability quickly vanished). she started out with it's
alright and philosophy of loss. i can't remember her exact words, but
before philosophy of loss, she said something about how she wrote it when
she was sort of mad at "the church" and alluded to how it's hard to
pigeonhole an entire organization like that, but she was mad at how they
won't ordain gays and lesbians. it was fabulous. then, she did some joni
mitchell song. i am not familiar with joni mitchell so i have no idea what
it was, but it starts out something like "sitting (or riding maybe?) in
some vehicle, sitting in some cafe". if anyone knows, i would love to know
what song it is. she brought out hutch hutchinson (bonnie's bass player)
to play with her and told us that she'd "never done this song live before
so...whatever." but, it was great. she ended it all up (her solo part
anyway) with history of us, which she prefaced with "this is my dad's
favorite song. wherever you are, dad, this is for you...and mom." it was
cute.

then, joan and dar came out and they did don't think twice, which i liked,
but not as much as when amy does it. and emily did diamonds and rust with
joan again. joan did pretty much the same set by herself. i honestly don't
remember much of bonnie's set. she did nick of time nearly, maybe even,
every night. and a jackson browne song i also don't know the name
of. ("boy, boy, this world is not your toy...this world is long on hunger,
this world is short on joy." it's on his lives in the balance cd.) after
bonnie, she, joan, emily, and dar sang a song i don't know the name
of. but, again, i would be most appreciative if anyone could enlighten
me. it went something like, "if religion was a thing that money could buy,
the rich would live, but the poor would die. all my trials, lord, soon be
over." my mom recognized it, but didn't know the name or who originally
sang it. they sang it a capella and it was gorgeous. then, they all did
angel from montgomery again and ended up with home, which is the song
bonnie raitt did on the honor cd. that was cool.

missoula (10/4)

home again, home again...unfortunately, i was unable to attend the rally
at the flathead res. in arlee as i was detained for entirely too long by
the aforementioned blown-out tire. so, i have no report on that. although,
i had intended to. some things just don't work out the way we plan. but,
it's all good.

amyray, this show had the best crowd of them all. but, they still didn't
stand up until the end and i think by now, the girls had given up on any
singalongs. but, they were still pretty vocal. i really missed joan baez
at this show. but, other than that, it was great. dar opened with four or
five songs, followed by indigenous. bonnie came out and played with them
on one song again. i do have a complete ig setlist for this one. in order,
it goes:

jonas & ezekiel
peace tonight
gone again
ghost
devotion
the joni mitchell song (w/o amy)
go (which amy prefaced with "here's a stupid rock song.")
get out the map
point hope
galileo
don't think twice (with dar and bonnie and no joan. bonnie tried to do
joan's bob dylan imitation and afterwards was remarking on how she didn't
think it was as good. then, she added, "but, i never had personal
experience with the man.")
all my trials (or whatever it's called. with dar and bonnie)

then, after bonnie's set, they all played, once again, angel from
montgomery. at this point, i was beginning to wonder what i was going to
do the next night when i didn't have four amazing women singing angel from
montgomery to me to put me to sleep. i've managed to make it so far. :0)

they ended up with...bury my heart at wounded knee, which was one of the
many highlights. i never thought i would see it live and to see them all
rocking out to it was awesome. this was the point at which everyone stood
up. it was great.

and that's it. then, suddenly, it was all over and it was like i woke up
from a dream or something. it was an incredible experience and i hope
maybe we sold joan and bonnie and the girls on montana and maybe they'll
come back a little more often. that would be great. and maybe, someday, we
won't have such troublesome issues for them to have to deal with when they
come. change is coming.

ok, maybe this wasn't as brief as i intended it to be. i'm sorry if it
dragged on. but, i didn't feel i could leave anything out. thanks for
listening, if you made it this far.

peace, love, and indigo,
amy m.

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                -the goddess, amy ray

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again, amy is playing em and a.  i tell you it's a fixation.  she must
resonate in those chords.  i'm playing around with my guitar tonight and
so far it seems to me that it's a then em the something else then d.
capo on 2nd fret (key of d).  i can't figure out the chord between em and
d.  please don't say it's bm.  i hate that chord!

-chee

ps.  the list meet in atlanta after the show will be held after the show
completely b/c it is just a solar show.  it should be over when the sun
goes down.  but, i may be wrong.  i'll keep you posted.

pss.  i'm looking for a convoy group for the 26th-27th-28th.  who's going
from atlanta to nc on the 25th?  e-mail me b/c i bet we could really
convoy together.  i plan on putting signs all over my truck!!!  like "who
are the indigo girls and why do they keep following me?"
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thanks, amy for letting those of use grounded on the east coast live these concerts vicariously through you.  neat review!
elisanne
  "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu> wrote:
hey all,

so, i finally have almost successfully alighted back on earth and in the
real world after what was most probably the most incredible week in my
entire life. (and said week included a speeding ticket and a blown-out
tire, so you know it had to have been pretty in-freaking-credible to
cancel those out.)

so, for those interested, i thought i'd post a brief review of the mt
tour. (after having finished writing this, i'll warn you now, it's not as
brief as i make it sound. just be forewarned.)

great falls (10/2)

indigenous was not at this show. so, a local guy from browning, mt by the
name of ed juneau opened the whole thing. he was pretty country-western,
but i liked him. joan baez followed with the same songs she sang in
billings (there but for fortune, the spiritual which i do not know the
name of, and world falls and don't think twice w/ig). she also did
diamonds and rust with emily. that was totally awesome and i think what
was almost greater was sitting there (6th row, em side), looking up at
those two singing and then, looking over at the side of the stage and
seeing amy and bonnie raitt standing there, looking like they were in as
much awe of the whole thing as i was. intense.

next, the girls came on. i, once again, don't have the complete setlist,
but i'm pretty sure i remembered most of the songs. perhaps someone else
who was there (i.e. ryan?) could help me out? amyray, here's what i have
(in no particular order):

get out the map
shame on you
love's recovery
go ("a very acoustic version of a very electric song", says amy)
point hope (i know this is picky, but it is called point hope, not point
*of* hope...actually it's point hope foia, if you really want to get
picky. anyone know what foia stands for?)
wood song
galileo
closer to fine
they may have done gone again too, but i simply can't remember.

there was this really obnoxious girl who kept yelling "bonnie!" while
everyone else was out there. after the first time, emily said, "yeah,
bonnie's going to be out here later. we're the indigo girls!" then, the
stupid girl kept it up and i think the girls were starting to get a little
short on patience, so emily said, "maybe now would be a good time for you
to go to the bathroom. then, by the time you get back...she'll be here!"
and amy said, "i think sometimes we all find ourselves screaming 'bonnie!'
in the middle of the night. just don't do it in the middle of a song." i
think she finally shut up after that.

this crowd, in general, seemed to be very comfortable with trying to
communicate with the performers during the show (yelling "we love you" and
whatnot), which i really don't mind unless they're being obnoxious as the
above woman was. at one point, emily was talking about how much they liked
montana and some girl yelled "move here!" emily just sort of stood there
and smiled for a few seconds and said, "i'm feeling speechless."

the grand finale was, once again, angel from montgomery with everyone and
it was as gorgeous as the time before.

bozeman (10/3)

this was dar williams' first show with the tour. amy was mia (anyone here
about where she was?). dar opened with when i was a boy and played a
couple songs i was not familiar with and played are you out there. then,
indigenous came on and played five or six songs. i think this was the
first show where bonnie came on and played guitar with them on one song.

emily came on all by her little self after indigenous. of course, i missed
amy, but i was excited to see what emily would play by herself. she came
out and said something about missing amy and how amy is like her "phantom
limb" and then, she turned to the mic where amy usually is and said, "hi,
ame." it was too cute. i don't know how to explain it, but she just looked
so vulnerable when she came out there and was standing there all by
herself. but, she was vibrant and her short set was awesome (and the
thoughts of vulnerability quickly vanished). she started out with it's
alright and philosophy of loss. i can't remember her exact words, but
before philosophy of loss, she said something about how she wrote it when
she was sort of mad at "the church" and alluded to how it's hard to
pigeonhole an entire organization like that, but she was mad at how they
won't ordain gays and lesbians. it was fabulous. then, she did some joni
mitchell song. i am not familiar with joni mitchell so i have no idea what
it was, but it starts out something like "sitting (or riding maybe?) in
some vehicle, sitting in some cafe". if anyone knows, i would love to know
what song it is. she brought out hutch hutchinson (bonnie's bass player)
to play with her and told us that she'd "never done this song live before
so...whatever." but, it was great. she ended it all up (her solo part
anyway) with history of us, which she prefaced with "this is my dad's
favorite song. wherever you are, dad, this is for you...and mom." it was
cute.

then, joan and dar came out and they did don't think twice, which i liked,
but not as much as when amy does it. and emily did diamonds and rust with
joan again. joan did pretty much the same set by herself. i honestly don't
remember much of bonnie's set. she did nick of time nearly, maybe even,
every night. and a jackson browne song i also don't know the name
of. ("boy, boy, this world is not your toy...this world is long on hunger,
this world is short on joy." it's on his lives in the balance cd.) after
bonnie, she, joan, emily, and dar sang a song i don't know the name
of. but, again, i would be most appreciative if anyone could enlighten
me. it went something like, "if religion was a thing that money could buy,
the rich would live, but the poor would die. all my trials, lord, soon be
over." my mom recognized it, but didn't know the name or who originally
sang it. they sang it a capella and it was gorgeous. then, they all did
angel from montgomery again and ended up with home, which is the song
bonnie raitt did on the honor cd. that was cool.

missoula (10/4)

home again, home again...unfortunately, i was unable to attend the rally
at the flathead res. in arlee as i was detained for entirely too long by
the aforementioned blown-out tire. so, i have no report on that. although,
i had intended to. some things just don't work out the way we plan. but,
it's all good.

amyray, this show had the best crowd of them all. but, they still didn't
stand up until the end and i think by now, the girls had given up on any
singalongs. but, they were still pretty vocal. i really missed joan baez
at this show. but, other than that, it was great. dar opened with four or
five songs, followed by indigenous. bonnie came out and played with them
on one song again. i do have a complete ig setlist for this one. in order,
it goes:

jonas & ezekiel
peace tonight
gone again
ghost
devotion
the joni mitchell song (w/o amy)
go (which amy prefaced with "here's a stupid rock song.")
get out the map
point hope
galileo
don't think twice (with dar and bonnie and no joan. bonnie tried to do
joan's bob dylan imitation and afterwards was remarking on how she didn't
think it was as good. then, she added, "but, i never had personal
experience with the man.")
all my trials (or whatever it's called. with dar and bonnie)

then, after bonnie's set, they all played, once again, angel from
montgomery. at this point, i was beginning to wonder what i was going to
do the next night when i didn't have four amazing women singing angel from
montgomery to me to put me to sleep. i've managed to make it so far. :0)

they ended up with...bury my heart at wounded knee, which was one of the
many highlights. i never thought i would see it live and to see them all
rocking out to it was awesome. this was the point at which everyone stood
up. it was great.

and that's it. then, suddenly, it was all over and it was like i woke up
from a dream or something. it was an incredible experience and i hope
maybe we sold joan and bonnie and the girls on montana and maybe they'll
come back a little more often. that would be great. and maybe, someday, we
won't have such troublesome issues for them to have to deal with when they
come. change is coming.

ok, maybe this wasn't as brief as i intended it to be. i'm sorry if it
dragged on. but, i didn't feel i could leave anything out. thanks for
listening, if you made it this far.

peace, love, and indigo,
amy m.

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
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-the goddess, amy ray

"women together is a powerful thing, especially when you join it with
music."
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<p> <br>thanks, amy for letting those of use grounded on the east coast live these concerts vicariously through you.  neat review!
<p>elisanne
<p>  <b><i>"amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu></i></b> wrote: <br>
<blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid">hey all,<br><br>so, i finally have almost successfully alighted back on earth and in the<br>real world after what was most probably the most incredible week in my<br>entire life. (and said week included a speeding ticket and a blown-out<br>tire, so you know it had to have been pretty in-freaking-credible to<br>cancel those out.)<br><br>so, for those interested, i thought i'd post a brief review of the mt<br>tour. (after having finished writing this, i'll warn you now, it's not as<br>brief as i make it sound. just be forewarned.)<br><br>great falls (10/2)<br><br>indigenous was not at this show. so, a local guy from browning, mt by the<br>name of ed juneau opened the whole thing. he was pretty country-western,<br>but i liked him. joan baez followed with the same songs she sang in<br>billings (there but for fortune, the spiritual which i do not know the<br>name of, and world falls and don't think twice w/ig). she also did<br>diamonds and rust with emily. that was totally awesome and i think what<br>was almost greater was sitting there (6th row, em side), looking up at<br>those two singing and then, looking over at the side of the stage and<br>seeing amy and bonnie raitt standing there, looking like they were in as<br>much awe of the whole thing as i was. intense.<br><br>next, the girls came on. i, once again, don't have the complete setlist,<br>but i'm pretty sure i remembered most of the songs. perhaps someone else<br>who was there (i.e. ryan?) could help me out? amyray, here's what i have<br>(in no particular order):<br><br>get out the map<br>shame on you<br>love's recovery<br>go ("a very acoustic version of a very electric song", says amy)<br>point hope (i know this is picky, but it is called point hope, not point<br>*of* hope...actually it's point hope foia, if you really want to get<br>picky. anyone know what foia stands for?)<br>wood song<br>galileo<br>closer to fine<br>they may have done gone again too, but i simply can<a href="http://photos.yahoo.com/">yahoo! photos</a> - 35mm quality prints, now get 15 free!
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thanks, amy for letting those of use grounded on the east coast live these concerts vicariously through you.  neat review!
elisanne
  "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu> wrote:
hey all,

so, i finally have almost successfully alighted back on earth and in the
real world after what was most probably the most incredible week in my
entire life. (and said week included a speeding ticket and a blown-out
tire, so you know it had to have been pretty in-freaking-credible to
cancel those out.)

so, for those interested, i thought i'd post a brief review of the mt
tour. (after having finished writing this, i'll warn you now, it's not as
brief as i make it sound. just be forewarned.)

great falls (10/2)

indigenous was not at this show. so, a local guy from browning, mt by the
name of ed juneau opened the whole thing. he was pretty country-western,
but i liked him. joan baez followed with the same songs she sang in
billings (there but for fortune, the spiritual which i do not know the
name of, and world falls and don't think twice w/ig). she also did
diamonds and rust with emily. that was totally awesome and i think what
was almost greater was sitting there (6th row, em side), looking up at
those two singing and then, looking over at the side of the stage and
seeing amy and bonnie raitt standing there, looking like they were in as
much awe of the whole thing as i was. intense.

next, the girls came on. i, once again, don't have the complete setlist,
but i'm pretty sure i remembered most of the songs. perhaps someone else
who was there (i.e. ryan?) could help me out? amyray, here's what i have
(in no particular order):

get out the map
shame on you
love's recovery
go ("a very acoustic version of a very electric song", says amy)
point hope (i know this is picky, but it is called point hope, not point
*of* hope...actually it's point hope foia, if you really want to get
picky. anyone know what foia stands for?)
wood song
galileo
closer to fine
they may have done gone again too, but i simply can't remember.

there was this really obnoxious girl who kept yelling "bonnie!" while
everyone else was out there. after the first time, emily said, "yeah,
bonnie's going to be out here later. we're the indigo girls!" then, the
stupid girl kept it up and i think the girls were starting to get a little
short on patience, so emily said, "maybe now would be a good time for you
to go to the bathroom. then, by the time you get back...she'll be here!"
and amy said, "i think sometimes we all find ourselves screaming 'bonnie!'
in the middle of the night. just don't do it in the middle of a song." i
think she finally shut up after that.

this crowd, in general, seemed to be very comfortable with trying to
communicate with the performers during the show (yelling "we love you" and
whatnot), which i really don't mind unless they're being obnoxious as the
above woman was. at one point, emily was talking about how much they liked
montana and some girl yelled "move here!" emily just sort of stood there
and smiled for a few seconds and said, "i'm feeling speechless."

the grand finale was, once again, angel from montgomery with everyone and
it was as gorgeous as the time before.

bozeman (10/3)

this was dar williams' first show with the tour. amy was mia (anyone here
about where she was?). dar opened with when i was a boy and played a
couple songs i was not familiar with and played are you out there. then,
indigenous came on and played five or six songs. i think this was the
first show where bonnie came on and played guitar with them on one song.

emily came on all by her little self after indigenous. of course, i missed
amy, but i was excited to see what emily would play by herself. she came
out and said something about missing amy and how amy is like her "phantom
limb" and then, she turned to the mic where amy usually is and said, "hi,
ame." it was too cute. i don't know how to explain it, but she just looked
so vulnerable when she came out there and was standing there all by
herself. but, she was vibrant and her short set was awesome (and the
thoughts of vulnerability quickly vanished). she started out with it's
alright and philosophy of loss. i can't remember her exact words, but
before philosophy of loss, she said something about how she wrote it when
she was sort of mad at "the church" and alluded to how it's hard to
pigeonhole an entire organization like that, but she was mad at how they
won't ordain gays and lesbians. it was fabulous. then, she did some joni
mitchell song. i am not familiar with joni mitchell so i have no idea what
it was, but it starts out something like "sitting (or riding maybe?) in
some vehicle, sitting in some cafe". if anyone knows, i would love to know
what song it is. she brought out hutch hutchinson (bonnie's bass player)
to play with her and told us that she'd "never done this song live before
so...whatever." but, it was great. she ended it all up (her solo part
anyway) with history of us, which she prefaced with "this is my dad's
favorite song. wherever you are, dad, this is for you...and mom." it was
cute.

then, joan and dar came out and they did don't think twice, which i liked,
but not as much as when amy does it. and emily did diamonds and rust with
joan again. joan did pretty much the same set by herself. i honestly don't
remember much of bonnie's set. she did nick of time nearly, maybe even,
every night. and a jackson browne song i also don't know the name
of. ("boy, boy, this world is not your toy...this world is long on hunger,
this world is short on joy." it's on his lives in the balance cd.) after
bonnie, she, joan, emily, and dar sang a song i don't know the name
of. but, again, i would be most appreciative if anyone could enlighten
me. it went something like, "if religion was a thing that money could buy,
the rich would live, but the poor would die. all my trials, lord, soon be
over." my mom recognized it, but didn't know the name or who originally
sang it. they sang it a capella and it was gorgeous. then, they all did
angel from montgomery again and ended up with home, which is the song
bonnie raitt did on the honor cd. that was cool.

missoula (10/4)

home again, home again...unfortunately, i was unable to attend the rally
at the flathead res. in arlee as i was detained for entirely too long by
the aforementioned blown-out tire. so, i have no report on that. although,
i had intended to. some things just don't work out the way we plan. but,
it's all good.

amyray, this show had the best crowd of them all. but, they still didn't
stand up until the end and i think by now, the girls had given up on any
singalongs. but, they were still pretty vocal. i really missed joan baez
at this show. but, other than that, it was great. dar opened with four or
five songs, followed by indigenous. bonnie came out and played with them
on one song again. i do have a complete ig setlist for this one. in order,
it goes:

jonas & ezekiel
peace tonight
gone again
ghost
devotion
the joni mitchell song (w/o amy)
go (which amy prefaced with "here's a stupid rock song.")
get out the map
point hope
galileo
don't think twice (with dar and bonnie and no joan. bonnie tried to do
joan's bob dylan imitation and afterwards was remarking on how she didn't
think it was as good. then, she added, "but, i never had personal
experience with the man.")
all my trials (or whatever it's called. with dar and bonnie)

then, after bonnie's set, they all played, once again, angel from
montgomery. at this point, i was beginning to wonder what i was going to
do the next night when i didn't have four amazing women singing angel from
montgomery to me to put me to sleep. i've managed to make it so far. :0)

they ended up with...bury my heart at wounded knee, which was one of the
many highlights. i never thought i would see it live and to see them all
rocking out to it was awesome. this was the point at which everyone stood
up. it was great.

and that's it. then, suddenly, it was all over and it was like i woke up
from a dream or something. it was an incredible experience and i hope
maybe we sold joan and bonnie and the girls on montana and maybe they'll
come back a little more often. that would be great. and maybe, someday, we
won't have such troublesome issues for them to have to deal with when they
come. change is coming.

ok, maybe this wasn't as brief as i intended it to be. i'm sorry if it
dragged on. but, i didn't feel i could leave anything out. thanks for
listening, if you made it this far.

peace, love, and indigo,
amy m.

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
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-the goddess, amy ray

"women together is a powerful thing, especially when you join it with
music."
-the goddess, emily saliers

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<p> <br>thanks, amy for letting those of use grounded on the east coast live these concerts vicariously through you.  neat review!
<p>elisanne
<p>  <b><i>"amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu></i></b> wrote: <br>
<blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid">hey all,<br><br>so, i finally have almost successfully alighted back on earth and in the<br>real world after what was most probably the most incredible week in my<br>entire life. (and said week included a speeding ticket and a blown-out<br>tire, so you know it had to have been pretty in-freaking-credible to<br>cancel those out.)<br><br>so, for those interested, i thought i'd post a brief review of the mt<br>tour. (after having finished writing this, i'll warn you now, it's not as<br>brief as i make it sound. just be forewarned.)<br><br>great falls (10/2)<br><br>indigenous was not at this show. so, a local guy from browning, mt by the<br>name of ed juneau opened the whole thing. he was pretty country-western,<br>but i liked him. joan baez followed with the same songs she sang in<br>billings (there but for fortune, the spiritual which i do not know the<br>name of, and world falls and don't think twice w/ig). she also did<br>diamonds and rust with emily. that was totally awesome and i think what<br>was almost greater was sitting there (6th row, em side), looking up at<br>those two singing and then, looking over at the side of the stage and<br>seeing amy and bonnie raitt standing there, looking like they were in as<br>much awe of the whole thing as i was. intense.<br><br>next, the girls came on. i, once again, don't have the complete setlist,<br>but i'm pretty sure i remembered most of the songs. perhaps someone else<br>who was there (i.e. ryan?) could help me out? amyray, here's what i have<br>(in no particular order):<br><br>get out the map<br>shame on you<br>love's recovery<br>go ("a very acoustic version of a very electric song", says amy)<br>point hope (i know this is picky, but it is called point hope, not point<br>*of* hope...actually it's point hope foia, if you really want to get<br>picky. anyone know what foia stands for?)<br>wood song<br>galileo<br>closer to fine<br>they may have done gone again too, but i simply can<a href="http://photos.yahoo.com/">yahoo! photos</a> - 35mm quality prints, now get 15 free!
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