lifeblood: listlogs: 2001-03a


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date:         thu, 1 mar 2001 00:53:22 est
reply-to:     lisa071573@aol.com
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subject:      nigc: barbara kessler
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a little nigc...

is anoyone going to club passim (boston) on friday for the barbara kessler
show?? i'd kill for a good bk bootleg... i just saw her in denver (after a
4-yr break of not seeing her at all...) but my tape came out kind muffled..
or if anyone can tape from the net www.radioboston.com i'd be eternally
grateful...

:p lisa

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date:         thu, 1 mar 2001 16:51:56 +0330
reply-to:     tina <tina@mail.dci.co.ir>
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subject:      hi my friends
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hello to all...

i like to make friends from all over the world.
my name is hamed.
i am a young, male & 20 year.
now send mail to me. please...

thanks.
hamed

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date:         thu, 1 mar 2001 10:05:17 est
reply-to:     subcityii@aol.com
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subject:      who wants out magazine?
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years ago, many people here had trouble finding issues of a certain magazine that featured a two-part interview with amy ray. as a result, i volunteered to send those who didn't have access to the magazine those particular issues.

i'm asking now, is there anyone out there who wants me to send them the current issue of out with the photo of amy and the article about stag?

if you are interested, email me privately and we will work something out.

-scott

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date:         thu, 1 mar 2001 11:46:14 -0500
reply-to:     "mckay demont, elle" <elle.mckaydemont@wausau.com>
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from:         "mckay demont, elle" <elle.mckaydemont@wausau.com>
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does anyone know the guitar chords to "devotion" and "leaving" that they'd
be willing to share? i'm getting my guitar back from the shop and i can't
wait to play these great songs...
elle

"take it easy, but take it." w. guthrie

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date:         thu, 1 mar 2001 13:12:44 est
reply-to:     gecie@aol.com
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got this from a friend & thought i'd send it out on here=20

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going to get the 7 inch on tuesday??=a0=20

hello.=a0 dug is doing a small piece for the upcoming newsletter on the
special daemon records promo 7 inch that goes with the stag album to be
release on tuesday, march 6th. this is where you come in!=a0 we need your
help!=a0 we want you to document your 7 inch experience on film!=a0 if any o=
f
you are planning to go and pick up your copy -- wait in line for the store
to open, zip away on your lunch hour etc.=a0 take a camera and snap a few fo=
r
us.=a0 we could make you famous!=a0 we are looking for all kinds of shots.
shots of the line outside the store.=a0 a picture of you being handed the 7
inch from the cashier.=a0 you and your friends being silly and punchy at 5am
while waiting...and waiting... whatever.=a0 just remember, if you send us a
photo we might use it!=a0 so pick a good one and send it on to us at daemon
underground, p.o. box 21521, oakland, ca 94620.=20

the duggers=a0 =3d)=20
(photos will be used in the print copy of the upcoming dug newsletter/zine
to be release in june.)=20


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<br>hello.=a0 dug is doing a small piece for the upcoming newsletter on the
<br>special daemon records promo 7 inch that goes with the stag album to be
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<br>help!=a0 we want you to document your 7 inch experience on film!=a0 if a=
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<br>underground, p.o. box 21521, oakland, ca 94620.=20
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date:         thu, 1 mar 2001 10:22:28 -0800
reply-to:     mike reynolds <michael_reynolds@yahoo.com>
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subject:      from pollstar - all amy instores to include performances
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i just read a great article @ www.pollstar.com, all
the instores will include performances.

and thanks to all the people who helped on the
portfolio - i actually had some great suggestions, but
for a few reasons, i withdrew my application this
morning, but i will be working on a cd based portfolio
for the next time...

mike r.

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date:         fri, 2 mar 2001 09:00:39 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

this is forwarded from the news-only list...

-sherlyn

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date: thu, 01 mar 2001 13:27:17 -0500
from: flora brown <flora_brown@brown.edu>
subject: [ig-news] amy's openers

the openers for the amy & the butchies tour are listed on the mr lady's
(the record label) webpage : http://www.mrlady.com/tour.html#butchies

looks like tami hart for the first half of the tour, then rose polenzani
the second.  :)

peace, flora

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date:         thu, 1 mar 2001 15:22:06 -0700
reply-to:     "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
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from:         "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
subject:      daemonrecords.com (amy content)
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hey y'all,

i hadn't seen this mentioned yet, so for those of you who haven't visited
the amy ray portion of daemonrecords.com, they've retooled it recently,
with music and everything.

they've got videos of amy and 1945 in the studio and one where you can
"meet kaia from the butchies". a couple sections, like the poster and
diary sections are "coming soon", but what they have so far is pretty
cool.

just fyi,
amy m.

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"we are not empty-headed celebrities."
                -the goddess, amy ray

"women together is a powerful thing, especially when you join it with
music."
                -the goddess, emily saliers

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date:         thu, 1 mar 2001 18:24:48 -0500
reply-to:     jill certo <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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subject:      erin mckeown to play midwest
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(my apologies, as ever, for being off-topic.)

please forward widely to listservs, friends, afficionadoes, or anyone who
just plain looks like they have nothing to do on a saturday night.  thanks!
jill
------------------------

"her music springs from a lively intelligence, and it's warmed by a spritely
soul.  mckeown obviously knows and loves music of all kinds because you can
hear echoes of everything from 19th century dance hall ballads to be-bop in
her sophisticated take on 'folk' music."
--ed mckeon, the new britain herald

"mckeown could easily get by on charm alone, but she doesn't have to-- she
writes great songs and performs them with loads of personality."
-- gail o'hara, time out new york

"it's a li'l bit greg brown and a li'l big 'sweet georgia brown.'  it's a
li'l bit vaudeville and a li'l bit rock'n'roll.  it's a li'l musical dynamo
named erin mckeown."
--matthew robinson, boston magazine

pop?  folk?  blues?  tin pan alley?  jazz?  funk?  no one's quite sure what
to call erin mckeown's sound, but we all agree: it's great-- smart, smooth,
bright, and beautiful.  hailing from providence, ri, mckeown, a 23-year-old
senior at brown university, has been receiving awards and accolades on the
east coast since she was a high schooler, but is relatively unknown in the
midwest.  come hear what you've been missing.  oberlin student ian wilson
opens.

erin mckeown with ian wilson
oberlin college cat-in-the-cream coffeehouse
180 w. lorain street (in the hales annex)
saturday 10 march 2001 8:30pm
free show!

for more inforation, go to http://www.erinmckeown.com
or contact jill at 440/775-7028; jillian.certo@oberlin.edu.

oberlin college is located 35 miles southwest of cleveland, at the junction
of routes 58 and 511.  for directions, please see
http://www.oberlin.edu/coladm/about/direct.html.
limited overnight accomodations are available for roadtrippers. :)

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date:         thu, 1 mar 2001 16:13:08 +0000
reply-to:     smackenz@scrippscol.edu
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how sad, no lyrics with stag. but otherwise it's great.
-sam (rockin' out with her pigtails)

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date:         thu, 1 mar 2001 16:44:47 -0800
reply-to:     brwgrl <brwgrl@yahoo.com>
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subject:      minneapolis?
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gotta ask as i haven't seen nor heard anything about a
minneapolis stop.  anyone know?  amy can't be passing
us by, can she?  aaahhhhh


brwgrl

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i am a problem child, i've been wild all my days
all my anger and my rage, my senses said it would lead me astray
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date:         fri, 2 mar 2001 00:09:06 -0500
reply-to:     sarah pinsker <reinventing1@mindspring.com>
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hi everyone -
i'm playing two shows in the triangle area of north carolina this weekend,
and i just wanted to mention it in case anyone felt like coming. i've only
played the area once before - chapel hill in november, so all that's between
me and an empty house are a bunch  of posters put up by the wonderful folks
at ladyslipper music  and some word-of-mouth.
these are the facts, for those of you interested:
friday, march 2 the open eye cafe, carrboro, nc.9:00 pm. with kim buchanan.
100-c e. main st. (919)968-9410.
saturday, march 3 the artist's escape, chapel hill, nc. 137 e. franklin
st.(in the back of the bankamerica building). (919)960-3717.

have a great weekend,
sarah
reinventing1@mindspring.com
http://www.sarahpinsker.com
http://www.mp3.com/sarahpinsker
http://www.cdbaby.com/pinsker

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date:         fri, 2 mar 2001 00:53:00 -0800
reply-to:     jacquie whelan <jacquie13@acncanada.net>
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just thought i would drop a quick line and introduce myself...i have =
been a fan for about 2 years (i can't believe i had no idea ig existed =
until recently!)

i have been to a few concerts (michigan and toronto...) and have a lot =
of ig music.  i am canadian and love the folk content in the music, =
actually, the only other type of music i listen to regularly is country.

i work in a group home with "at-risk" boys aged 8-16 and man, do they =
ever wear me out some days!!!

i guess that's it for now, just didn't want to lurk any longer!
jacquie

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reply-to:     accoats@aol.com
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subject:      check out gay.com family: interview with amy ray
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hey guys-- sorry if this has already been posted-- check it out! take care--
ashley     <a
href="http://content.gay.com/channels/home/women/010301_amy_ray.html?from=wome

n">click here: gay.com family: interview with amy ray</a>

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date:         fri, 2 mar 2001 17:10:45 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
subject:      talkcity chat with amy, march 6
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hey folks,

>from www.talkcity.com...

tuesday, march 6 - 6:00pm pt
chat with amy ray!
amy ray of the indigo girls discusses her solo album, "stag."

cheers,
sherlyn

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date:         fri, 2 mar 2001 17:44:57 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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hey folks,

here's the article that ashley mentioned, from gay.com
(http://content.gay.com/channels/home/women/010301_amy_ray.html)

-sherlyn

---begin article---

indigo girl amy ray goes stag with solo, indie album

by shannon wentworth
gay.com network

after 10 years producing indie albums on her socially and
politically conscious label, daemon records, amy ray finally
recorded herself. the result is stag, a fusion of folk and
punk, that's angry and earnest.

>from the classic rock rebellion of the opening track,
"johnny rottentail," to the infectious pop song "black heart
today," ray creates an album that's more than an indigo girls
album with all amy songs. stag is the work of an artist
freeing herself from the confines of a major label and the
harmonies of the indigo girls.

stag was inspired by a stack of songs ray wrote that didn't
sound like indigo girls' songs, but she also wrote several
songs while she was recording the album. ray's collaboration
with bands like the butchies and rock*a*teens changed the
sound of stag. the result is a true indie record, fearless,
gutsy and passionate.

producing stag on her own label gave ray the opportunity to
speak out about the sexism of the music industry and
imagemakers, like jan wenner, publisher of rolling stone. in
"lucystoners," ray lambastes the white boy's network, while
asserting a do-it-yourself feminist message. the result is
a grungy, punk-pop song that would stick out like a sore
thumb on an indigo girls' album.

recently, gay.com spoke with amy ray about stag, songs emily
didn't like and the state of women's rights.

is this the beginning of the end of the indigo girls?

no, it's not. i think that it's pretty obvious that we are
united and moving ahead.

does emily have any solo projects in the works?

no, not yet, but i think she'll do something.

where does the women's suffragist influence in your music
come from?

it's probably coming from the fact that i read a lot of
history of the women's movement in the last couple of years
because my girlfriend is a feminist activist. i got a
reading list from her and started reading. i'm just an avid
reader, when i have time, and we would share books.
(jennifer baumgardner, amy ray's girlfriend, wrote manifesta:
young women, feminism and the future.)

i guess i'm pretty aware of feminism, i mean i always have
been, but just naturally at this time it's coming out in my
music more.

we (women) are in a weird place in the united states, i think
we've made a certain number of strides and there's a lot of
stuff that we've progressed on superficially, in that,
there's a language for things. there's a way to articulate
things. there's laws to protect women in certain ways. i
think the fact that we don't have equal pay, that's a really
big deal to me, that there's not an era (equal rights
amendment) so to speak or any real muscle behind equal pay
for women. and the fact that it's hard for us to even
realistically think about a woman president, as a nation i
mean, people in the nation always assume it's going to be a
man in a mainstream kind of world. to me, that means we are
just not there yet. the idea of equal rights is equal access,
and we just don't have it yet. but i think that what we do
have is a language and an awareness of what we should be
going for, and i think that's a first step and really neat.

i see a lot of young visionaries, women in their 20s and
teens, who really think about things and won't take no for
answer and if the system fails create your own kind of
autonomy, and i think that's really exciting. i think it
means we've gotten somewhere.

i'm interested in women looking beyond their own countries and
trying to unify about what's going on everywhere else, like
sweatshops, repression and how it ties in with international
women's rights. i think that when we can reach out to them and
help them in their struggles it furthers our own.

in the song "lucystoners," you really lay into jann wenner.
what's your beef with him?

well, i wasn't singling him out because i have a beef only
with him. to me he symbolizes a huge good-old-boy network of
the rock industry. and being the head honcho of rolling stone
magazine, and rolling stone magazine being the barometer
sometimes of where women stand and how women are treated in
the rock world.

has there been pressure on the indigo girls to get the kind of
coverage that rolling stone gives artists like jennifer lopez
or sheryl crow?

i don't think we have the looks for it. i don't deny jennifer
lopez, or christina or britney the right to appear how they
want to appear. i just don't have a problem with it. it's so
much bigger than what does the person look like on the cover.
it's more like, is that consistently the only way they'll
present women. will they present that, but they won't present
the other side? how many women writers are on the editorial
board? who do they pick to review the records? it's the way
that things are done and the way that women are presented and
whether they are given equal access to the same kind of
criticism that men are given.

(rolling stone has) a lot of covers that are women, but it's
just a certain kind of woman.  and they don't give any
credence to the other side of things, and that's what bothers
me.

i don't think boys need to be attractive to be on the cover,
but i think that is changing. i think boys are starting to be
affected by this as much as girls in some ways. there's
unrealistic images of men in modeling as well, most of the
guys i know don't have broad shoulders and an 18-inch waist.
there's unrealistic imaging on both sides.

britney and christina, they don't really bother me. they're
entertainers. but that's not what me and emily did, it's not
what we set out to do, we went down a different path. we were
never pressured to do anything like that, but at the same
time our lack of radio success is due to the fact that i think
our label and the industry doesn't know how to deal with
strong women.

stag is your rebellious, punk album. it seems like you are
releasing some frustration after being on a major label for
10 years...

well, i think i could do whatever i want on epic, pretty much.
i wouldn't say they've limited us. but in the parameters of my
partnership with emily, i probably can't do whatever i want.
(laughs) you know, i can do pretty much what i want, but you
know anytime you are in a partnership you have to compromise a
little bit.

people usually want to do solo records because they want to
express a side of themselves that's not getting expressed. for
me, i needed to express that side of me that's more influenced
by the punk world and the independent world where it's a lot of
do-it-yourself, low-budget projects. you're not going for radio
necessarily, it's like a non-commercial kind of venture, and the
ideas are more singular in their focus.

i think that when emily and i do something together it influences
the scene no matter what, just because we've been together a long
time and we both bring our own personalities to the table and it
influences each other's songs.  so i think for me to do something
alone without any of that going on is great. it kind of frees me
up and allows me to look at my writing and everything separate
from emily. because when you play with someone for 20 years,
everything that you see is through that lens. it was really good
from me to not have to do that. and it's probably going to make
my writing better for indigo girls. probably make me have more
clarity in what i'm doing.

with indigo girls with the last couple records, i'd be in the
studio with emily struggling to try to fit this rock-punk song
into an indigo girls kind of structure. emily can play guitar
with anything, she's just got that, but the players that we play
with aren't necessarily from the same world that i would draw
from. and when i bring them in, it's a different world, it's not
a world they feel as comfortable in and so it's harder in every
way. so i would end up not doing some of the stuff i wanted to
do or feeling like "god, what i'm doing right now it's not what
the indigo girls need to be doing right now, there's not enough
harmony, there's not enough this, there's not enough that." so
now, i have a place to put all that stuff.

are there any songs that you brought to the indigo girls that
emily just said, "uh-uh?"

(laughs) nah, cause i pretty much know what she'd say no to,
so i don't even waste my time.  emily's very open. she's not a
prude or anything, you know. as different as we are, we are
pretty much on the same page. it's not always theme, it's like
this song doesn't lend itself to two voices singing in harmony
or this song is not going to sound right with the indigo girls
band because they have to know how to play emily's stuff and my
stuff, and to play emily's stuff you need to be more
intellectually...your technicality...you probably can't be a
punk player and play emily's stuff.  and a lot of emily's
players couldn't play punk stuff, they just can't do it, they
can't make that leap. (laughs) we have this middle ground that
we just have to find.

but a song like "lucystoners," you know, i played it for emily,
but i never intended indigo girls to do it. because i knew it
would be something that she might bristle at, and i was right
about that. i could tell it wouldn't be a song we would be
learning together. (laughs)

i couldn't see "lucystoners" as an indigo girls' song, but a
song like "lazyboy" has an indigo girls feel to it, in fact it
seems more like an emily song than an amy song?

yeah, "lazyboy" we could do. and we may, at some point, do our
own arrangement of it. but what i was going for was something
where it was two of me, two of me playing guitar and two of me
singing to get that kind of haunted feel. if you had both me
and emily doing that, it would give it more of a
jazzy-kinda-duo feel, and i'm not sure i would want it colored
that way.

what about a song like "laramie?" melissa etheridge did a
matthew shepard song on breakdown...

yeah, hers is like so much more literal than i'd want to be. i
think it's good and everything, but what i was trying to go for
was a song about hate in general, not just about homophobia,
but about classism too, about who's to blame in society and
who's complicit.  it's also these people in the higher echelons
of the financial bracket who think they are so damned
progressive, but they never do anything to really help anybody
out. they sort of think they are tolerant of gay people, because
they have a gay person in their yoga class or something.
(laughs) it takes a lot more than that. you've got to speak out,
you've got to work and vote and really try to make a difference
for people. a lot of times there's these hidden attitudes that
no one ever expresses that nurture an environment of hate.  and
then some kid goes off and murders somebody else and they all
act so surprised about it, but we all contributed to it because
we didn't do anything to change our attitude in general. we
allowed that extra little room that person needed to feel ok
about what they were doing or to carry their anger out in this
way. and i think classism itself breeds a certain amount of
fighting among the oppressed groups, with people groveling for
the little that they are given. i think it's something we all
need to think about and work on. so that song was supposed to
deal with a lot more than (matthew shepard), that's why i say,
"this town ain't nothing different." it could happen anywhere.

how many records do you have left on epic? are you eager to get
out of that contract?

we have two more records on epic. some days we want out and
some days we just don't care.  they don't really support us
anymore, but they don't try to stop us.

what's next for the indigo girls? the next indigo girls' album
comes out in 10 months. we start recording in july. the next
album is going to be more acoustic.

who were your role models growing up?

when i was really young it was a few of my elementary school
teachers who i really liked, they were women, and david
cassidy. (laughs)

i wouldn't say i had super political role models early, early
on. i listened to a lot of music from the 60s and 70s and i had
a real sort of obvious affection for that idea of community and
a why can't we all just get along kind of thing, give peace a
chance and all that stuff.  so when i was really young, i was
kind of a hippie. and then my role models in the music world
were mostly like independent bands and people doing their own
projects, really a lot of people who are unknown on the atlanta
scene.

stag arrives in record stores on march 6. you can also purchase
it from www.daemonrecords.com.

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http://www.like.com/music/interviews/01/10244.htma

apologies if this has been posted before.  just been browsing, and found this
site http://www.like.com -
their by-line is "what people you like, like".  so of course i ran "indigo
girls" through the search, and it
came up with a list of stuff emily likes.  interesting, imo!

fare thee well,
marion (aka mollyig)


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                    current albums you like?
                     filter: title of record

                                               on title of record: "they rage as
hard as any band out
                                               there, and yet they're
introspective in parts of the songs, and i
                                               just love that combination."

                    classic albums you like?
                     joni mitchell: hejira
                     aerosmith: rocks

                    classic bands you like?
                     led zeppelin
                     heart

                    soundtracks you like?
                     cinema paradiso

                    favorite record store? corner cds in atlanta

                    your biggest musical influences?
                     joni mitchell
                     neil young

                                              on joni mitchell: "she's the
biggest. she's very influential
                                              because i started listening to her
at a pivotal time in my own
                                              development when i was a
singer/songwriter and she was so
                                              diverse musically and lyrically.
so, i think that she has one of
                                              the most powerful combinations of
interesting music and
                                              powerful lyrics. she wasn't afraid
to break new ground in her
                                              records, even though she caught a
lot of crap for it."

                    best concert you ever saw? joni mitchell. i just saw her the
other night actually.
                    she's playing with a 72-piece orchestra. but i think my
favorite time i saw her was
                    the time before last when she opened for bob dylan.

                    first concert you ever saw? john denver. that was in atlanta
at the omni. it's so,
                    so, so long ago, like in the '70s.

                    performance that stands out for you? opening up for neil
young many years ago.
                    basically, 'cause he played - not because of us!

                    moment in studio that stands out for you? most recently,
having joan osborne
                    come and sing on our record. and, just sitting in the
control room, and having her out
                    in the studio coming up with all these great parts that fit
so well, and i just remember
                    sitting there thinking, "i'm so thankful t

                    musical equipment you like? guitar

                    books

                    books you like?
                     cormac mccarthy: all the pretty
                     horses
                     chang-rae lee: native speaker
                     & adjust your life
                     william maxwell: so long, see
                     you tomorrow
                     jhumpa lahiri: interpreter of
                     maladies

                                                 on all the pretty horses: "just
because it just has such a
                                                 language of the southwest."

                                                 on native speaker & adjust your
life: "one of the
                                                 most impressive writings i've
read in a long, long time."

                                                 on so long, see you tomorrow:
"one of my favorite
                                                 writers. it is very quiet and
midwestern, but the things that
                                                 he's able to point out about
humanity and human
                                                 relationships just seem to span
all time and culture."

                                                 on interpreter of maladies: "it
won the pulitzer. i don't
                                                 even like short stories and
this book just blew me away."

                    bookstore you like? barnes & noble, mom & pop shops

                    magazines you like?
                     the new york times magazine
                     rolling stone

                    film

                    movies you like?
                     all about my mother
                     american beauty
                     boys don't cry

                                                on all about my mother: "i was
just so struck by that
                                                movie because of the acting and
because of the uniqueness
                                                of the characters, and it just
took you into a whole other
                                                world. i thought it was
brilliant."

                                                on american beauty: "i rarely
love hollywood movies, but
                                                i love that movie."

                                                on boys don't cry: "fantastic.
very powerful."

                    actor you like? kevin spacey

                    actress you like? hilary swank, chloe sevigny, meryl streep,
catherine deneuve,
                    susan sarandon


                    tv/radio

                    current tv show you like? none

                    classic tv show you like? the mod squad

                    talk show or host you like? the charlie rose show

                    radio station you like? npr


                    lifestyle

                    artist you like? salvador dali

                    favorite museum? the salvador dali museum in florida

                    your favorite city? new york

                    a vacation spot you like? anywhere on the beach

                    car you like? bmw, porsche


                    people

                    a person you were exited to meet ? neil young

                    a person you would like to meet? jesus, joni mitchell

                    comedian that you like? ellen degeneres

                    artist you would most like to spend a night with? you mean
sleep with? i'd love to
                    have a cup of coffee with catherine deneuve.


                    clothing

                    a new clothing company you like? prada

                    an old school classic clothing company you like? levi's

                    your favorite brand of sneakers? adidas

                    favorite mall store? bookstore, music store


                    technology

                    a web site you like? www.honorearth.com

                    what modern product can you not live without? natural soaps,
and candles &
                    shampoos, and stuff like that.


                    sex

                    favorite music to make out to? tori amos


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in a message dated 03/02/2001 7:00:27 am eastern standard time,
marion_o'sullivan@health.irlgov.ie writes:


> http://www.like.com/music/interviews/01/10244.htma
>
>

<a href="http://www.like.com/music/interviews/01q/067.htma">what modern product can you not live without?</a> natural soaps, and candles &
shampoos, and stuff like that.

  hmmm,maybe i should send her some of the natural soaps and bath salts that
i make :)
  thanks for the link molly
  liz


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<html><font face=arial,helvetica><body bgcolor="#ffffff"><font  size=3 family="serif" face="calisto mt" lang="0">in a message dated 03/02/2001 7:00:27 am eastern standard time,
<br>marion_o'sullivan@health.irlgov.ie writes:
<br>
<br></font><font  color="#000000" size=2 family="sansserif" face="arial" lang="0">
<br><blockquote type=cite style="border-left: #0000ff 2px solid; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px">http://www.like.com/music/interviews/01/10244.htma
<br>
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<br></font><font  color="#000000" size=3 family="serif" face="calisto mt" lang="0">
<br></font><font  color="#0000ff" size=2 family="sansserif" face="verdana" lang="0"><b><a href="http://www.like.com/music/interviews/01q/067.htma">what modern product can you not live without?</a></b></b> natural soaps, and candles &
<br>shampoos, and stuff like that.
<br>
<br>  hmmm,maybe i should send her some of the natural soaps and bath salts that
<br>i make :)
<br>  thanks for the link molly
<br>  liz
<br>
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unlurking....

just to let y'all know... michelle malone will be doin an in studio today on
99x.  don't know the specific time... but i think it will be after the
retroplex which is from 12 - 1.

listen via the web @ 99x.com

c ya

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<html>
<font size=3>an attempt to stave off flashbacks that were taunting me
yesterday, i tossed my recollections to "paper" and put them up
on our website.  (the rest of the site is still down being updated,
so looking for anything else on there will only frustrate you). 
this is just my first draft, but i thought i would share it.  fresh
and all, you know.  if you are interested have at it.  if not,
delete this note away and i apologize for  taking some of your
time.  it needs re-titling, and a bunch of work, but
whatdaheck.  i feel better having written it, and sharing it. 
even as a weak 1st draft.  it has helped much, and i am almost over
the shaking, and haven't broken into random sobs all day today (friday)
so far. <br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.olywa.net/saulinoj/earthquake.html" eudora="autourl">http://www.olywa.net/saulinoj/earthquake.html</a><br>
<br>
tracy <br>
<br>
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hey guys:)

i'm not sure what this website is but it has amy listed as the artist of the
month. very cool and a nice review of "lucystoners."  check it out!
www.michal.com

patiently waiting for stag to arrive:),
ryan

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hi scott~
    i would like a copy. let me know if you can get me one and how you are
going about doing this ok?
peace,
~alyssa

in a message dated 3/2/01 12:08:04 am eastern standard time,
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<< date:    thu, 1 mar 2001 10:05:17 est
from:    subcityii@aol.com
subject: who wants out magazine?

years ago, many people here had trouble finding issues of a certain magazine
that featured a two-part interview with amy ray. as a result, i volunteered
to send those who didn't have access to the magazine those particular issues.

i'm asking now, is there anyone out there who wants me to send them the
current issue of out with the photo of amy and the article about stag?

if you are interested, email me privately and we will work something out.

-scott
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that previous post by me was a whoops. didn't mean to post to the whole list.
chalk it up as my whoops for the day. sorry all.
alyssa

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i have two tickets for the show at the orlando sapphire club.  the show is
sunday april 1st at 7:00.  they are $15, including the service fee from
ticketmaster.please email if interested.  giraffe44@msn.com

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as promised here's the url to the sonicnet story on stag:

http://www.sonicnet.com/artists/ai_singlestory.jhtml?id=1441259&ai_id=1087

i didnt post the article because its better for the artist's future coverage
prospects if the story gets a lot of hits.

anyway, i will post those outtakes i promised for your help with questions
soon. there are a lot of them.

thanks.

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at 06:24 pm 3/1/01, jill certo wrote:
>(my apologies, as ever, for being off-topic.)
>
>please forward widely to listservs, friends, afficionadoes, or anyone who
>just plain looks like they have nothing to do on a saturday night.  thanks!
>jill
>------------------------
>
>"her music springs from a lively intelligence, and it's warmed by a spritely
>soul.  mckeown obviously knows and loves music of all kinds because you can
>hear echoes of everything from 19th century dance hall ballads to be-bop in
>her sophisticated take on 'folk' music."
>--ed mckeon, the new britain herald

jill, music activist, you must now begin to webcast erin shows - or at
least email me about a trade - you owe me...

mike r.

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hey hey--good news for chicago fans who have been waiting for info on amy's
solo tour.   just glancing through my newspaper's weekend section and
noticed amy ray tickets were listed as going on sale tomorrow, saturday,
march 3 at 12 noon.  this is for the metro theater in chicago on april 12.
tickets are a fabulous $10.  i confirmed this with the venue website and
ticketmaster.com.  so again tix for the chicago appearance go on sale
saturday at noon.  stay off the phone lines so i can get in first :):).
good luck folks.  see you there...greg

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sorry for the double post.  i sent the below info a second ago but put the
subject in the cc line by accident.  so for those who are delete happy and
would otherwise want this info i am posting again. bye now...

hey hey--good news for chicago fans who have been waiting for info on amy's
solo tour.   just glancing through my newspaper's weekend section and
noticed amy ray tickets were listed as going on sale tomorrow, saturday,
march 3 at 12 noon.  this is for the metro theater in chicago on april 12.
tickets are a fabulous $10.  i confirmed this with the venue website and
ticketmaster.com.  so again tix for the chicago appearance go on sale
saturday at noon.  stay off the phone lines so i can get in first :):).
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alrighty people...no words in a cd is quite annoying...however i think if we
get together  we can solve this problem.  so...how about as ppl figure out
the words to songs they post em?  sound fair?  good thanks y'all

carla ;o)

"spend my time being broken hearted and grieving bound"  amy ray

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<html><font face=arial,helvetica><font  size=2>alrighty people...no words in a cd is quite annoying...however i think if we
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hi all,

there is a website out there with all of the stag lyrics.  it's
http://www.geocities.com/rainbowbrat26/staglyrics.html

enjoy!

:-) karen

http://geocities.com/karen_rosenblum

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hey folks,

here's the article (from www.michal.com) that ryan
mentioned...

-sherlyn

---begin article---
artist of the month --> amy ray

it's been a while since i've 1) profiled an artist and 2)
stepped up on to my soapbox, so this is my opportunity to do
both.

it's monday. i just got home from work. all i want to do is
unwind from a crappy day. but instead, i'm all wound up and
pissed off. you see, i got home from work today and
downloaded amy ray's new tune, "lucy stoners," from daemon
records' web site. normally, listening to new music doesn't
upset me, but as i listened to this song, i realized just how
true the words are, and just how much that truth angers me.

in a nutshell, "lucy stoners" is about how men are the
gatekeepers of the music industry and how they use their
control to discriminate against women. now of course, there are
certain exceptions to their rules, for example, if you're britney
spears and can be pimped out as a cash cow, or if you're a
woman without any social or political ideas of your own. but, if
you're a group like the indigo girls, you can put out album
after album, win a grammy and tour the country with sold out
shows for almost 20 years and still never make it on to the cover
of rolling stone.

how does that happen? how do we let that happen? as consumers,
we have this incredible power -- purchasing power -- that speaks
to record company execs, club owners, and magazine publishers in
the only voice they can understand. in the products that we buy,
and especially in the products that we don't buy, we can tell
them that we won't tolerate their misogyny and discrimination.
conversely, in purchasing from independent, socially friendly
businesses, we convey how much we support their efforts.

but off my soap box for a minute and back to amy ray and "lucy
stoners."

i love this new song, not only because i think it takes a brave
woman to stand up to the music industry, but also because it
rocks. ray collaborated on "lucy stoners" with the butchies, an
all woman punk band, and their synthesis is wild. the song is
pushed along by a great, driving, almost military beat and the
lyrics are stinging and exact. ray sums it up in the chorus by
singing, "janny wenner janny wenner/rolling stone's most fearless
leader/gave the boys what they deserve,/but with the girls he
lost his nerve."

one thing to note, this is not the indigo girls. amy ray's new
album is definitely a rock album -- if you come to it thinking
that amy ray's solo project is just the indigo girls minus one,
you'll be surprised and probably disappointed. but take away
those expectations, and what you'll find is that the tracks off
this album have the high quality you've come to expect from the
indigo girls, with the punk/rock flavor that only amy ray can
bring to the table.

so this is your chance to let your dollars shout out -- support
indie and women's music, and get a kick-ass record in the
process. on march 6, amy ray's new album stag will be released in
stores.  buy it. get your friends to buy it. get your co-workers
to buy it. and then, as a treat to yourself, go see amy ray live.

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like, how many times was jilly kicked off this list for being "off-topic"?
hummmmm?  missing jilly's rants and off-topicness.
-chee

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<< at 06:24 pm 3/1/01, jill certo wrote:
>(my apologies, as ever, for being off-topic.)
> >>

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there's trees in bloom in atlanta?
whatever.  (ohio bitterness.)

anyhow, this is from the beautiful sonia tetlow.  she's playing a benefit
concert with michelle malone amongst many cool others.  check it out.  and
then mail me some blossoms or something.

*j


>hey y'all,
>hope everyone is well and enjoying march so far. we in atlanta have
>the pleasure of trees exploding in blossoms right now. every day
>brings some new beauty. but that's not really what this email is
>about...
>
>this weekend is the first ever
>concert 2 cure (http://www.concert2cure.org)
>a "festival of sights & sounds, art & dance designed to help vanquish
>the beast known as cancer."
>
>it is our pleasure to be a part of this important event and we hope
>you can come out, lend your support and hear some excellent music.
>it's a two day event
>(starting today at 4:30 at the tabernacle!!)
>with tons of talent including speech from arrested development, michelle
>malone, chain poets, theodis earley, gurufish, cool for august and many
>more, including, if not most importantly...
>
>stb:) -- 8pm sharp, sunday, march 4 at cj's landing in buckhead
>
>please check the c2c website for all other details.
>
>in other news, we're headed into the studio next week to record our
>next single. still not sure which two songs we're gonna do, so if you
>have an opinion please let us know asap!!
>
>good karma all around. rock it. rocket. racket.
>almost tennis time if i knew how to play. a little ping pong anyone...
>clearly time for me to go now. take it easy. keep it real.
>
>st for the b
>http://www.stbrocks.co

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hey-- i while back did somepne post where amy will be doing in store
apprearences? if so-- could some on send it to me again? i am headed to the
echo lounge show and the following week i have off so some friends and i are
taking some road trips and we wanted to see if we could catch one of them.
thanks y'all! take care-- ashley

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i finally got my copy of stag in the mail today from daemon records! yay! i
have been listening to it all night. i love it! what an awesome thing to come
home to after a goddamn 12 hour day (i was only supposed to work for 9 hous
blah!)
peace all
~alyssa

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hey alyssa,
i got mine today too. i just started listening to it. i love it!
i can't help but wonder if emily does a solo album what it would be like. :)
i keep singing lucystoners don't need boners....lol
if you haven't gotten your copy yet, folks, you won't be disappointed when
you finally hear it.

it jams in my opinion. makes me want to grab my air guitar and bang my head
back and forth :)okay back to being a respectable 33 year old.

paula

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>i finally got my copy of stag in the mail today from daemon records! yay! i
>have been listening to it all night. i love it! what an awesome thing to
>come
>home to after a goddamn 12 hour day (i was only supposed to work for 9 hous
>blah!)
>peace all
>~alyssa
>

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<< 8-9 pm, words and music from studio a: rita houston welcomes amy ray in an
encore interview and performance.>>

march 5th on wfuv.com radio.

they are into mountain stage kinda things so maybe they will have excerpts
from the recent show.

jude :)

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        so stag. it's a good album, if a bit short. i'm looking forward to
the concert. but here's my concern: if there's only 35 minutes of music on
the album, how is amy planning on filling out the rest of the set? is she
going to cede half of her stage time to the butchies? is she going to pad
is with the half-an-hour's worth of "bonus tracks" that only appeared on
those first hundred albums sold over the web? is she going to whip out her
acoustic guitar and go into a solo rendition of "love will come to you"?
anybody who knows anything about the mountain stage performance and cares
to enlighten, please do so.

        mandy,
        who has actually only listened to stag once - even though it
arrived on the 1st - because the cd player has been occupied with eddi
reader. people, if neil tells you to go see some random-ass performer on
pain of death, you go, okay?

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got my copy of stag.

figures... i live 10 miles from daemon, and i'm probably the last one who
preordered to get mine!

anyone else a little disappointed in the autograph??  mine has an "x" and an
amy ray scribble.

which tracks are the bonus tracks??

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sorry for the nigc but....

a long time ago someone posted about their family being affected by
ehlers-danlos.  if you are still on the list and still feel like chatting,
will you email me privately.

thanks,
java

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there is a 2 song 7" vinyl that several places are selling (i really want
one and there is only one store in maine, but i am all over it.)

the people who got the autographs did not get the free 2 songs...

so like, they will be on some free peer to peer sharing site

(and like isp's are going to restrict opennap servers, god i hate the riaa)

on stag - i love it - very womyn centered, not punk as in hardcore, but i
already like it more than cons (and i *am* an emily person...) measure of
me is incredible - i think the cd version of lucystoners may have a bit of
a tag not on the mp3, sorry - havent listened to the mp3 incestently.

but ummm.. how much do i like stag? i got a moby 2 cd set (everything is
wrong dj mix) 3 pearl jam concerts (the released bootlegs are soooooooo
good boston 8/30...wow) and some guns and roses (guilty pleasure - an
upgrade of one of the first boots i got some 11 years ago.)

stag just totally blew my mind.

random ? - what font is used on the cover?

mike r.


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hey...

looks like amy on the cover, but she took the pic, right??

i mean...those are definitely amy's eyes, or am i crazy?

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ok here's the dumb okie with another question :) is there a list of =
stores somewhere that i can get the 7"? i looked on deamon and couldn't =
find a link to any list? i'd appreciate it folks....take care!


mandy

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in case anyone hasn't posted this yet...up here in nyc the gay/lesbian
newspaper blade has a picture of amy ray on the cover and an article/picture
inside about stag. i have seen blade in atlanta at some bookstores so i know
you can probably get it in other states besides ny. it is the issue dating
march 2, 2001.

michelle

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http://www.nyblade.com

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hey folks,

this was sent to the news-only list... i can't seem to access
the site right now but i'll probably forward the article
later on...

-sherlyn

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howdy,

here's another amy interview link...

http://www.technodyke.com/features/amyraystag.asp

christy

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hey folks,

here's the article from the ny blade (www.nyblade.com) that
michelle mentioned......

-sherlyn

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ray of light
the indigo girls' amy ray goes solo with stag

by lawrence ferber

once known as a gentle, acoustic duo, the indigo girls -- amy
ray and emily saliers -- took a decidedly rockier, electrified
turn on their last album, come on now social. and surely a
substantial part of this new direction could be attributed to
ray. want proof? just take a listen to her driving, melodic,
and rockin' solo debut, stag.

"on the last few records there have been one or two songs that
have been more in this vein," admits ray.  "and i've felt
frustrated because it was hard to figure out how to have them
fit in. on come on now social they fit in really well because
emily was writing some more rock kind of stuff, too. but i've
been writing a lot of songs in the last five years that i felt
like i had to put over in this 'other' category and finally i
was like i'm just going to make a solo record. once i decided
that i really started writing for this record specifically. and
it made me feel great, more free about the indigo girls, too,
because i think i needed to have another pressure valve for
these other things i was feeling musically in order to create in
the indigo girls as well."

so free of pressure that ray declares the next indigo album will
hark back to their trademark acoustic style.

"we're gonna make a low-budget, simple record," she says. "it's
something i want to do. i'm twisting emily's arm a little bit,
but she's into it."

its cover bearing a photo of two women in a dancing embrace, one
dangling a cigarette by her side -- "she's trying to quit," ray
notes.  "and i hate tobacco companies, but i don't want to take
out part of the picture because it's art! it's part of a
picture!" -- stag is not only significant for being ray's first
solo effort. it's also one of her own releases, on ray's indie
label, daemon records. does this affect her hopes for the album?

"i think i've already fulfilled them because i just wanted to
make it, to be honest with you," she says. "although i hope it
breaks even because it's on daemon and i don't want to put my
own label in the hole! but i needed to make a record and i did
it."

a literal musical road trip, ray recorded stag in several
states. in durham, north carolina, she laid down five tracks
with local lesbian rock band, and sometimes indigo girls
opening act, the butchies. back in ray's home state of georgia,
one tune was recorded with southern gothic punk legends the
rock*a*teens, another song in birmingham, alabama with daniel
farris and 1945, while yet another track, "hey castrator," was
recorded in brooklyn with a virtual dream team of joan jett,
luscious jackson's kate schellanbach, and the breeders'
josephine wiggs.

lyric-wise, ray feels stag is emotionally "very dark."

"i think it's in your face, very graphic emotionally," she
admits. "i'm pretty much out there saying what i feel and it
runs the gamut from being very cynical to just kind of
laughing at myself. a lot of it is looking at myself and the
things i question in society and myself.  challenging sexism
in the industry, that comes up a lot. i think the biggest
thread that comes through it, though, is this sort of
eroticism of gender fluidity and the spiritual nature of that.
even the songs that aren't apparently about that on the
surface, it runs through there."

to wit, the songs "measure of me" and "mountains of glory"
address ray's latter thread.

"not consciously but subconsciously, i was dealing with my own
feelings about the boy inside me who wants to come out and
wants to feel o.k. about being that way," she says. "if my
girlfriend thinks of me as a boy i want to feel o.k. about
that, i want to be proud of that. but i also want her to think
of me as a woman. it would be great if one day we're so fluid
you call somebody 'joe,' but you're not even thinking joe is a
boy. you're just thinking joe is joe. but that's a long way off,
like star trek next generation land or something. but it would
be nice!"

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that would be www.nyblade.com

jude :)

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happy birthdays go out to the following listees!

march 6
babyindigo@aol.com (jen)

march 11 ('77)
jillian.certo@oberlin.edu (jill certo)

woo hoo!  have great days! :)

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i dont know if this has been mentioned but there is an amy interview at
borders.com
the url is....

http://go.borders.com/features/tpray.xcv

enjoy!
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hi everybody.
is there someone in this list that have the web address for the womyn  music
fest in south florida?  please post it in here or email me .
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>>so stag. it's a good album, if a bit short. i'm looking forward to
the concert. but here's my concern: if there's only 35 minutes of music on
the album, how is amy planning on filling out the rest of the set? is she
going to cede half of her stage time to the butchies? is she going to pad
is with the half-an-hour's worth of "bonus tracks" that only appeared on
those first hundred albums sold over the web? is she going to whip out her
acoustic guitar and go into a solo rendition of "love will come to you"?>>

as cool as that would be, i doubt it ;-)  i'm assuming that, in addition to all of stag, the butchies will do some songs.  amy will also most likely do a few ig songs, the ones that are less harmony-driven but could be done solo.  perhaps: go, land of caanan, romeo and juliet, center stage, touch me fall...and how cool would blood and fire be?  :-)

>>who has actually only listened to stag once - even though it
arrived on the 1st - because the cd player has been occupied with eddi
reader. people, if neil tells you to go see some random-ass performer on
pain of death, you go, okay?>>

how is she?  i have only heard the one track that's on the b-sides compilation and i don't like it at all...

>>i mean...those are definitely amy's eyes, or am i crazy?

you're crazy. ;-)

>>ok here's the dumb okie with another question :) is there a list of =
stores somewhere that i can get the 7"? i looked on deamon and couldn't =
find a link to any list? i'd appreciate it folks....take care!>>

http://www.daemonrecords.com/beta/amy/amy.html

jason

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pamela and i will be attending this show on april 3rd.  if anyone else is
going, we'd love to meet up with you!

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*comes out from lurkdom*

i know this is total nigc, but pooh, if you are out there, please email
me.  :-)  i need to talk to you.

and if pooh is not there, but someone knows where she is, please email
me and let me know my search is futile.


peace, love and ig-

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hey all.  i was looking for some cat stevens boots/videos for a friend and
thought that this would be a good place to start.  i was wondering if anyone
had any cat boots/videos or knew anyone who did...that could help me out. it
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i definitely don't think it's amy. at first glance, it definitely looks
like her, but i don't think it is. i get an interesting vibe from this
picture. after hearing lucy stoners, it looks almost like the woman with
her back to the camera is wearing an old 1800s type dress with her hair up
in a bun, or something? it's hard to see the picture on the website
clearly now that they've decided it should be moving to the music.

to me, it looks sort of like this modern feminist person embracing a lucy
stone type from back in the day. maybe i'm reading too much into it, what
do y'all think?

amy m.

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hi!  my plot fell through to get my brother who lives in boston to pick me
up a record @ newbury comics b/c he is on spring break. if anyone is
interested in picking one up for me i will trade a ig tapes and /or cd boot
copies and i will cover the cost of the stag cd (and my eternal gratitude)
please email me.
thanks,
vinyl lover
tammy

p.s. i also may have two extra tickets to see amy ray in portland,or.

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i'm psyched at how much publicity amy is getting...

http://wallofsound.go.com/news/stories/amyray030501.html

jason

i'll try to post it here, but my mail program may mess it up:

amy ray unveils 'one voice' project

when amy ray, half of the alterna-folk group indigo girls, decided to record her solo album, stag, without her longtime partner, emily saliers, she quickly learned how difficult it could be making the switch from "we" to "me."
"at first it was weird," ray says of wading into creative waters without saliers by her side. "i [wanted] to call emily and ask her what she thinks of this [song!]"

ray knew what would happen, however, if she did invite saliers into the studio.

"i thought, if i ask her to play, i'm so used to working with her that it'll turn into an indigo girls song," amy recalls. "i decided if i do that, it's not going to be a solo project."

fans who have followed the indigo girls since the mid-'80s know that part of the band's magic comes from the way ray's hard-driving edge pushes against saliers's lilting acoustic leanings. considering this disparity in their individual styles, it's surprising that neither of them released a solo project sooner.

"i wish i would've done it a lot longer ago," ray laughs. "it takes me a long time to do things! but it was time to challenge myself."

she got the urge to do stag when she realized the tunes she was writing felt more like "one voice" songs.

"i kept being frustrated with having all these songs that i couldn't see as being duo kind of songs," she recalls. "i just started putting them in this other little basket, [thinking], 'oh, at some point i'll just release something on my own.' finally i got serious and started planning it."

time off between indigo girls albums and tours allowed ray to assemble songs and artists whose talents she felt would best interpret her musical vision. joan jett, former luscious jackson drummer kate schellenbach, and the butchies were all on her wish list.

"the whole point, when i picked all of these bands, was that i'm a real fan of all these people," she says of her choices.

the admiration, not surprisingly, is mutual.

"we love her, we love her music," says butchies guitarist kaia wilson, who adds that being asked was a surprising honor. "it was a moment in our musicianship where we realized that we'd gotten to a place where someone who we hold in high esteem, a musician such as amy ray, would want to work with us on her record."

the butchies will be going on the road with ray, serving as both backup band and opening act on stag's short national tour.

after her tour, ray promises an indigo girls release that will "get back to their roots" as folk artists.

"i hope there's no one that's going to feel put off by [stag]," ray says.

"people who haven't heard us since 'closer to fine' will probably be surprised," she concludes. "but people who have really followed our career are not going to be shocked, i think they'll be like, 'there goes amy again.'" - steve gdula


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that is all that my autographed copy had too.  i will try my darndest to get
a personalized autograph when i make the trek to chicago to see her.

mi rinda

"got to learn to respect what we don't understand." -ar

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got my copy of stag.

figures... i live 10 miles from daemon, and i'm probably the last one who
preordered to get mine!

anyone else a little disappointed in the autograph??  mine has an "x" and an
amy ray scribble.

which tracks are the bonus tracks??

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delurking for a moment!

i haven't seen this mentioned yet, but it looks like there is an official
summer date for the girls! they'll be back again at the britt festival in
jacksonville, or, for those of you not familiar with the pnw it's in
southern oregon and it's a great festival! the official date is 7/21!! you
can find more details at www.brittfest.org - july can't get here fast
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yee-haw.... i'll be in jacksonville again this year to see 'em! the britt
venue is beautiful....

elle

"like some sort of inspiration..."  esaliers

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also looks like they'll be back at newport.

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> delurking for a moment!
>
> i haven't seen this mentioned yet, but it looks like there is an official
> summer date for the girls! they'll be back again at the britt festival in
> jacksonville, or, for those of you not familiar with the pnw it's in
> southern oregon and it's a great festival! the official date is 7/21!! you
> can find more details at www.brittfest.org - july can't get here fast
> enough!!
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okay, i had to share my excitement with someone.  way back when daemon
announced the stores with the 7" vinyl i e-mailed the store and asked about
it.  well they had no clue yet so i gave the store guy all the info.  today
they got them in and he is setting one aside for me!!!  i am so excited to
be getting one.  i just had to share it with people who i knew would be as
excited as i am!

mi rinda

"got to learn to respect what we don't understand." -ar

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if you're talking about the picture on the front cover, no, that's not
amy.  but the picture on the back... there's no mistaking those eyes.
that's gotta be her.

jean


--- "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu> wrote:
> i definitely don't think it's amy. at first glance, it definitely
> looks
> like her, but i don't think it is. i get an interesting vibe from
> this
> picture. after hearing lucy stoners, it looks almost like the woman
> with
> her back to the camera is wearing an old 1800s type dress with her
> hair up
> in a bun, or something? it's hard to see the picture on the website
> clearly now that they've decided it should be moving to the music.
>
> to me, it looks sort of like this modern feminist person embracing a
> lucy
> stone type from back in the day. maybe i'm reading too much into it,
> what
> do y'all think?
>
> amy m.
>
>
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
> "we are not empty-headed celebrities."
>                 -the goddess, amy ray
>
> "women together is a powerful thing, especially when you join it with
> music."
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not newport, oregon?

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> also looks like they'll be back at newport.
>
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> sent: monday, march 05, 2001 1:52 pm
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>
>
> > delurking for a moment!
> >
> > i haven't seen this mentioned yet, but it looks like there is an
> official
> > summer date for the girls! they'll be back again at the britt festival
> in
> > jacksonville, or, for those of you not familiar with the pnw it's in
> > southern oregon and it's a great festival! the official date is 7/21!!
> you
> > can find more details at www.brittfest.org - july can't get here fast
> > enough!!
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hey folks,

here's the interview from borders.com that ryan mentioned...

-sherlyn

---begin article---
solo indigo

conducted by tim pulice, borders.com editorial coordinator

for the past 20 years, amy ray has teamed up with emily saliers
to make up the southern folk-rock favorites the indigo girls.
their spirited live performances and thought-provoking, feminist
lyrics have won the duo a devoted following. saliers is regarded
for a melodic style often compared to joni mitchell, while ray
is known for a more aggressive approach inspired by bands like
the pretenders and husker du. ray recently released her first
solo album, stag, for which she recruited joan jett, kate
schellenbach and the butchies, among others, to help shape her
energetic songs.

in this interview, ray talks about how the music on stag differs
from more typical indigo girls material, as well as some of the
artists she's most proud of from her label, daemon records.
lastly, she offers up some sage advice to aspiring songwriters.


how long have you been writing the songs on stag?

amy ray: some of them i wrote while making the record, some of
them i've been working on over a period of three or four years.
they were old songs i could never quite finish and didn't really
know what to do with. i would go back through my tapes and i'd
say, "ok. this is perfect for this," then i would just work on
it a little more.

why did you feel the songs wouldn't fit on an indigo girls
album?

ar: i hear an indigo girls song as being harmony, lots of
counter melodies and two distinct guitar parts. there's just a
certain duality to indigo girls. these songs felt more singular.
i felt like i wanted one voice to be strong rather than having
two strong voices.

how did emily feel about it?

ar: she was very supportive and realizes that i need to do this,
get it out of my system. in the end, it's going to make things
better for indigo girls. i've already started writing songs for
the next indigo record, and i just feel like i'm cleared out. i
don't have to throw the song out or make it not what it should
be because i'm trying to make it an indigo girls song. now i have
these two distinct places to put things.

were you nervous about not having emily to fall back on?

ar: yes, she's a great foil. that's exactly what we are to each
other in the studio. we need that person who says, "do it again,"
or, "can you try this instead?" she's a lot more technically
talented than me and has a gift for harmony and writing guitar
lines. i'm very slow at those things. i hear something a certain
way and can do that, but i can't expand and do it some other way.
so i was pretty worried about harmonies and guitar parts. but it
was good. i would write a lot of the harmonies myself and it made
me a better musician.

how did you select the musicians for stag?

ar: these are bands that are very influential to me and have
influenced my songwriting. i would take a band i was really
familiar with and wanted to play with and automatically know what
songs would be appropriate for them. i'd make a tape of the song,
send it to them and then practice with them for a couple of days.
it was pretty much what came natural to them. the trick was
sorting out who was going to sound the best on which songs. that's
something i really enjoy doing, something i have a knack for --
recognizing a band's strengths.

you're known as the more rocking indigo girl, but one of the songs
that really stands out is "lazyboy." i was hearing sean lennon,
elliott smith, simon and garfunkel. was that a conscious effort on
your part?

ar: definitely. i know elliott's recording style, and it was
something specific i wanted to do on that song. it was definitely
influenced by nick drake and elliott smith. i was tipping my hat
to their style.

emily's ballads are so strong that i end up not doing as many. and
when i'm doing something alone, the weight of trying to have
different styles falls on one person. it gives me a chance to
bring out something really different. that song is something i had
written and wasn't necessarily planning to put on the record -- i
was thinking about making it a hidden track. then it felt like it
had a place. i recorded it a specific way because i wanted to bring
out a certain aspect of the song -- you're singing really quietly
and turning it up really loud.

would it be fair to say that indigo girls' albums are spiritually
optimistic? do you think the same holds true for this album?

ar: i think this record is more spiritually rebellious. it's not
quite evolved into optimism yet. i haven't had time yet to decide
whether i'm optimistic or not on this record. i think the thing
that's optimistic about indigo girls is something other than just
the music. it's the idea that two people can sing together for 20
years, and we still like each other. that's inherent in what we
do. i think the longer we've stayed together, the more optimistic
we've gotten.

how has your relationship with emily evolved over the 20 years?

ar: we're like family. we've been through a lot of experiences --
people dying, people being born, relationships breaking up,
everything that happens in somebody's life. it's been shared with
emily because we're on the road all the time and constantly in
each other's faces. we don't see each other that much when we're
off the road. but that's probably good -- it gives us our own
lives.

why did you found daemon records? what are your goals for the
label?

ar: to create an infrastructure that's not dictated by profit and
corporate greed. it's modeled on a grassroots model. it's things
happening from the bottom up instead of from the top down. we look
at the impact on the community and try to be part of the community
in atlanta or in the greater community of independent musicians.
it was to give artists this place they could go, make music, be
free, work on some of their own projects and not feel the
pressure.

who are your proudest discoveries?

ar: i'm very proud of danielle howle. she was on my label in this
punk band called lay quiet awhile. i think she's amazing and has
influenced my songwriting. the rock*a*teens are another band that
i'm really proud of that put a couple of records out on our label.

i'm really proud of rose polenzani. rose is a songwriter out of
chicago who now lives in boston. she's amazing, sort of like p.j.
harvey combined with joni mitchell. it was a demo tape somebody
gave me -- i really pursued it because i felt like it was
something unusual that i hadn't heard in a long time.

did anybody similarly guide you and emily as young artists?

ar: we were part of a music scene in atlanta that was really open
-- we had a few mentors. there was a woman named caroline aiken
who invited us to start playing during her breaks. and we were
playing in atlanta a lot, around 1985. kevn kinney in drivin n
cryin gave us a chance to open for them in athens. it gave us our
foot in the door. you just need one break sometimes. they made a
big difference to us.

how do you feel about napster and other file-sharing services?

ar: i don't have a problem with napster -- i haven't seen any
convincing evidence it hurts sales. i think there's some part of
music that you don't own. you have to give in a little bit. on
the other hand, people should keep in mind that some of the music
you're downloading for free came from somebody working five days
a week, going into the studio on the weekend and using all their
money to record that album.  it's cool to be able to download any
song you want -- i also think it's cool to buy records.

how are independent labels like yours doing in the midst of record
industry consolidation?

ar: at first it was very scary -- how are we going to sell our
records if we can't even get into record stores anymore? after
that initial shock, independent labels realized there was this
large space underneath that had expanded. you have to be really
creative.

did you release stag to coincide with national women's history
month?

ar: it was a happy accident. i'm a feminist activist, so i feel
really good about it.

what is the current state of feminism?

ar: i think there's exciting stuff happening. we've made a lot of
strides but there's still something you can't quite put your
finger on. you can't even quantify it, but there's still so much
sexism. there's not equal pay for women yet, abortion is not
protected the way it should be.  there are all these things we
still need to be working on, not to mention what's happening in
other countries. it's a very broad question. i'm a feminist, but
i know a lot of people that are feminist who don't call themselves
feminists. there's still a real need for a movement.

how do you feel about the marketing of women by the music industry?

ar: if you're 12 years old and you're into britney spears, i'm not
really sure what you're getting out of it. i really loved david
cassidy when i was young -- i'm sure it was sexual, but i didn't
recognize it.

it's more overt now.

ar: everything's more overt -- people are more savvy. record
companies will do anything to make a dollar. that's the bottom
line, and isn't going to change. i don't believe in censoring. if
you're a kid, you make your own way through life and figure things
out as you get older.  you know you've been taken advantage of, but
you got something out of it. it's ok.

if you're a parent with a 9-year-old that is really into britney
spears, you should go to the concert with them and ask what they
get out of it.  it might be something completely different from
what you think. we're imposing our own perspective about feminism
on this little kid.

you're known for your activist work with the honor the earth
foundation. what issues do you address?

ar: honor the earth is a group that emily and i started with
indian activists. it's basically an umbrella organization that
funds grassroots environmental work by native organizations all
over the americas. we have a board of indian activists that make
grant decisions. we go out every couple of years and raise money
by touring. playing in reservation communities and major cities,
trying to bridge the gap between indian and non-indian. we do a
lot of work for gay rights, pro choice and handgun control. honor
the earth is ongoing. we look at who's approaching us. we base it
on whether they're community based, grassroots, how they handle
their money.

i'm sure you and emily take great pride in your songwriting and
lyrics. it's a welcome relief because i think lyrical content in
music generally has become more superficial.

ar: some lyrics are going to the lowest common denominator. rather
than fighting, i feel like creating an alternative. people are
sick of radio and those stupid morning talk shows that are just as
dumb as some of the lyrics. they need an alternative. we need to
work on what that is and get it out there.

any advice to independent songwriters and musicians who want to
get into the business?

ar: i think touring is the most important thing to do. that could
mean you get a day job and can only go out on weekends, but you're
really consistent and work up to the point where you have a
following and can afford to work less in your day job. little by
little, small steps. i think putting out your own music is a good
thing because it's cheap to record and to make cds. you can sell
them and get the word out. as far as being a songwriter, i think
it's important to stand outside of your songs as much as you can.
pay attention as if you're listening and not the person that wrote
it. spend time editing. at first, you should just sing whatever and
make tapes of everything. then go back through them to figure out
where the little nuggets are that you want to keep.

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credits say amy took the picture on the front. i also read somewhere that the
woman with the cigarette in the foto is trying to quit, and tho amy hates
cig. companies she left it in the foto cuz she didnt want to mess with the
art, she says!

foto on the back is take by amy's grandmother, ozilline walker,  i think.
check the credits.

credits also say amy's girlfriend took the foto on the cd. and it looks like
someone named tanner, perhaps of the tanners of shame on you, took the inside
picture.

it's all very cool to me. if i was putting out a solo album and could do
whatever i wanted cuz it was my own label, i'd get all  my friends involved
too.

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newport folk fest (rhode island).

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> not newport, oregon?
>
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> > also looks like they'll be back at newport.
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> > > delurking for a moment!
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> > > i haven't seen this mentioned yet, but it looks like there is an
> > official
> > > summer date for the girls! they'll be back again at the britt festival
> > in
> > > jacksonville, or, for those of you not familiar with the pnw it's in
> > > southern oregon and it's a great festival! the official date is 7/21!!
> > you
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hey folks,

here's the article from technodyke that was mentioned by
christy yesterday...

http://www.technodyke.com/features/amyraystag.asp?page=9

-sherlyn

---begin article---

going stag with amy ray
by pam huwig

let me introduce you to a taste of some of the rawest, edgiest
music to hit the studio lately - and to pass through amy ray's
lips. the indigo girls are arguably one of the most contagious
bands around. lucky for us, their bond is strong enough to
accommodate and encourage creative solo endeavors. and since
the majority of indigo fans are deeply devoted to the duo known
as emily and amy, there is no doubt that amy's first record on
her own will be gobbled up by hungry fans - both established
and new. amy recently sat down with technodyke to discuss the
indigo girls, being on the road, and going stag.

how did you settle on the title?

i don't know, it just came to me one day before i even started
working on the music. i had the title in my head, of what it
would be to do a solo record. and i guess stag always conjures
up images of a stag party and gender kind of issues. going stag
[laughs].

how would you define stag?

i think punk is such a broad term. it's definitely punk in its
sentiment, in its approach in every way. but musically, it's
got songs that are rock, and some folk. but i would say it's in
the spirit of punk. that's what i'm drawing from more than
anything else on the record.

you handpicked some outstanding musicians to collaborate on
stag. how did you decide which musicians you wanted to
participate?

whenever i've thought about doing a solo record, you know, just
played around with it in my head, it was always, the seeds of
it came from wanting to play with these bands that i was really
into and record some of the stuff that we would create together.
so, when i started thinking of a solo record, i was just like,
'well, rather than getting just one band that i go out and find,
i'm already familiar with these bands and the way they play, so
it would be easy to fit them into what i'm doing.' when i'm
writing, i know i can hear my influences; i can tell that it's
definitely something the butchies or someone influenced.

does stag mark your solo career, or will we be hearing more from
indigo girls?

the indigo girls are still going strong. um, i think it just
marks another facet of what me and emily do. we do separate, and
we do stuff together, you know? stag is very separate from indigo
girls, but at the same time, my life is so, everything overlaps
so much that it doesn't really feel exclusive to anything. i
don't know if i'll make another solo record. if i have the songs
and the time, i will, i'm sure. but emily and i are going strong.

has emily heard the album yet?

yeah, she likes it. she was very into it and responsive to it and
had nothing but nice things to say about it.

well, that's not really a surprise.

right. emily is totally supportive of my endeavors.

you have a handsome range of music on stag - how did you come to
write "johnny rottentail"?

mm, yeah, well, it's in the tradition of appalachian murder
ballads and hanging ballads. there are a lot of songs from
appalachia that are stories about people getting hung [laughs].
i think i was thinking in a fit of anger. but i was also
thinking about what my own actions have to do with other people
being assholes. it was during the time of the columbine
shootings, and a lot of things going on with bad, bad kids, you
know? it always makes me think of what we all did to contribute to
that - what is our responsibility?

how about "hey castrator"?

i don't know really where it came from lyrically. i was addressing
a couple of different things - our own wrestling with the nature
that's inside of us. the stereotypical male kind of nature, and
what we attribute to that - like exploitation, possessiveness or
objectivity. but i also was talking about the high school side of
that - everything's always about sex [laughs]. it's my response to
that.

joan jett sings on this one, right?

right. i think joan sings, like joan sings this other part that
has nothing to do with anything [laughs] on the rest of the song.
except that the part she sings addresses the punky women's
movement, and the revolutionary impact it's had. that song also
asks questions about people becoming complacent.

so, we're all over the place in that song. musically, it was
contingent upon what the rhythm and the drums were doing and it
was very apropos for joan to come in and play rhythm guitar on it.
she's a killer guitar player. joan's part was something that i was
thinking about putting on the end of the song, but i wasn't really
sure about it. but because she agreed to sing on the song, i
wanted to have something showcased.

tell me a little about the other musicians who worked on the album.

kate [shellenbach] and josephine [wiggs] are two people i jam with
off an on when i'm in new york just for fun. they're great players.
i was really specific about choosing artists to participate. i
started to get to know the butchies a few years ago. kaia [wilson]
had gotten in touch with me about possibly working with daemon.
and even though they decided to put their first record out
themselves, we all kept in touch, and they've toured with the
indigo girls a lot in the past few years.

[the butchies] definitely surprised me, because a song like
"laramie" didn't seem to be their style. but they wanted to give
it a shot, and it was so good. melissa's drum part on that song is
really amazing. it's what i had in my mind. all i said to her about
what i was looking for was something that's got the neil young feel
but that still has a raggae thing happening-like something
different like how the clash would have done it. and then she just
automatically did it - it was great.

on "mts of glory" you sing "gonna miss being the boy, gonna miss
being the man..." do i even need to ask?

[laughs] well, you know, it's kind of, a lot of it when i'm talking
about gender issues is sort of my own wrestling with the part of me
that really heavily identifies with men. in a relationship, i feel
like the boy sometimes rather than the girl. we all wanna be both
[laughs] - nobody wants to just be one thing.

this was a specific breakup songs, where it's like what's the thing
i'm gonna miss most about the relationship, and it was kind of
ironic. i'm in it pretty heavily with irony because i think was
struggling with not wanting to feel like the boy all the time, but
when it was taken away from me, i was like, 'hey, wait a minute.'
it's supposed to be a sexy, punky, you know, fuck you sort of song.

how is the big, bad press machine reacting to stag?

we had one magazine get in touch with us last week. they got mad at
us for asking for a record review when we didn't take an ad out
with them.

well, fuck, some would say that's unethical.

yep. they said they couldn't believe we were asking for a review
when we couldn't afford to take out an ad. and i was just like,
'wow.' advertising is expensive and we support as many magazines
as we can through ad money. but we can't do a lot of it. but they
were pissed anyway.

what gives?

i think media and radio, and probably book publishing too, are
going through very parallel situations where it's consolidated to
a few owners and the advertisers are pouring in money
systematically in a certain way that the magazines or radio
responds to. so, in a sense the advertisers are running it. but,
not really, i mean, an editor or magazine publisher will say to
you 'well, we can't put this on the cover because the advertisers
say it doesn't sell and they won't fund us.' but i think there's
a big lack of courage somewhere to stand up and take a risk
sometimes - we have a lot of really bland music magazines because
they don't. the rolling stone, and spins that have sort of turned
into following the trends and responding to the charts.

as most everyone knows, you released stag on your self-founded
record label, daemon. how did you get daemon off the ground?

i started it myself. i had a lot of energy back then i guess.
everyday i'd wake up and make phone calls for about two hours -
the radio tracking, retail, trying to get press and stuff.

tell me about the daemon logo.

i drew that logo when i first started the label. it was supposed to
be like the opposite of what it usually is - you usually see a
human head and an animal legs. but, i thought daemon was really the
opposite of a lot of record labels. i wanted it to be more natural
and untamed. i wanted it to be the vehicle that was more human made.

one more thing: what do you think about good ol' george dubya?

oh, i think he's really terrible - very terrible.

do you think he's sober?

[laughs] some of my friends don't think so, but i think he just
slurs naturally. i think the only thing good about him is that he
speaks spanish [laughs].

what do you think is up with ricky martin playing at the white
house?

does ricky martin really like him? people that get asked to go play
at the white house and shit, they forget about their conscious. it's
weird, it's like they're thinking 'i got asked to go to the white
house, i don't care who's in office, i just want to go.' i love
ricky martin and when i heard he was doing that, i was just like,
'what an idiot.' maybe he just thinks it's good for his career
[sighs].

amy will be touring with the butchies in april. for dates and
information, see www.daemonrecords.com.

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date:         mon, 5 mar 2001 18:26:01 -0500
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at 02:05 pm 3/5/01, tamera mcnamara wrote:
>hi!  my plot fell through to get my brother who lives in boston to pick me
>up a record


i dont think many people will be getting 7" tomorrow - a storm that is
supposedly the worst since 1978 is hitting the north east (altho, if i have
to work late, there is a newbury in portland...nah, probably not going to
happen.)

wanting a 7" as well,

mike r.

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on a similar note, i can't go up to sf to get vinyl like i thought i could. :(

if anyone can get me a one, i will trade you for a ticket to amy's show at
slim's , i have 2 for each night and on;y 1 person who wants to go with me, so
one night the other person could be you. :)

no kidding.


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>from: tamera mcnamara <tlmstar@hotmail.com>
>subject: stag vinyl
>to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
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>hi!  my plot fell through to get my brother who lives in boston to pick me
>up a record @ newbury comics b/c he is on spring break. if anyone is
>interested in picking one up for me i will trade a ig tapes and /or cd boot
>copies and i will cover the cost of the stag cd (and my eternal gratitude)
>please email me.
>thanks,
>vinyl lover
>tammy
>
>p.s. i also may have two extra tickets to see amy ray in portland,or.
>
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so i'm yapping with mediancat (former listee) on the phone today and she
tells me about her little excursion to the hardware store to buy nets for
her snap peas. okay fine. i like snap peas.

on with the story

she then tells me about the fabulous music she heard while shopping:

a muzak-like version of andy.

it got us wondering:

who? who decided to allow the tune to be covered in this fashion? a&e?
russell? a&e's grandparents?

what? what the heck were they thinking?

when? when did this happen and why weren't we notified? i need to visit
the dentist soon and i'm wondering if muzak takes requests.

where? where do they find musicians to do this kind of thing? is there
some secret muzak artist underground?

why? 'nuff said.

and, of course, how?
how would say, compromise sound completely muzakked?

--bon

disclaimer: yes, i realize that muzak the company offers more than
elevator selections for patrons listening pleasure.
http://www.muzak.com/
regardless, i was immediately lured into their "easy instrumentals"
section.

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you would think that living one zip code over from
daemon would mean early arrival, but mine didn't come
today.  surely it will be here tomorrow, or the
purpose of preordering (failed attempt to receive an
autographed copy and hope of getting it before the
release date) has been ruined.  ah well.
:-) carrie

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>
> figures... i live 10 miles from daemon, and i'm
> probably the last one who
> preordered to get mine!
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heya - the spring issue of bust magazine (http://www.bust.com) -a fun and
intelligent feminist mag (with a slight tendency toward fashion) - just came
out. it has a review of stag, which was thankfully not written by jennifer
baumgardner this time, as the one for cons was (not that i have anything
against her, just that i felt it was unprofessional)...anyway, here goes:
"there's a punk scene brewing down south, and amy ray, one half of the
indigo girls and founder of daemon records, is smack dab in the middle of
it. you wouldn't think it, since most people would never describe the indigo
girls as punk, but while amy is half of ig, on her own, she's into a whole
other scene. stag reflects her other side, and joining her is a who's who of
the chick rock scene: kate schellenbach [luscious jackson], josephine
wiggs[the breeders, dusty trails], the butchies, danielle howle, the
rock*a*teens, and joan jett all pitch in. check it out, yo." - betty boob

-later, from the woman who never sleeps...
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the interview can be accessed here: (cool picture of amy standing in the woods!)
http://www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/newsatlanta/0305amyray.html

transcript:
an indigo interview:-  amy ray, half of grammy-winning duo, steps out on her own
with her first solo album

                              by shane harrison
                              atlanta journal-constitution staff writer

                              the 10-year-old amy
                              ray staring from the
                              back cover of her solo
                              debut album looks like
                              a real fireball, ready to
                              bolt from the frame at
                              any moment in pursuit
                              of the dog ready to
                              squirm from her hands.
                              even still, for that
                              captured moment, her
                              eyes convey a guarded
                              intelligence, a hint of all
                              that is to come.

                              some 25 years later, ray is a pop music success
story.
                              despite well over a decade of proximity to the
music
                              industry's "star-maker machinery" (to borrow a
phrase
                              from joni mitchell), she still exudes the earthy
smarts
                              and youthful vigor caught in that photograph her
                              grandmother shot in a northlake back yard so long
ago.

                              as the indigo girls, ray and emily saliers have
released
                              seven studio albums, three of them platinum, along
with
                              a couple of live sets. they have a long-term
major-label
                              affiliation with epic records and have cultivated
a
                              devoted fan base with little radio support. the
duo's
                              reputation as a hard-working live act reached its
peak
                              with a prominent spot in the 1997 lilith fair, the
                              successful touring showcase for female musicians
                              instigated by sarah mclachlan.

                              eleven years ago, ray started up daemon records, a
                              small independent record label that has provided a
                              much-needed outlet for local and regional talent.
tucked
                              away in a corner of decatur, the rustic, tightly
packed
                              office of daemon -- which released ray's "stag"
today --
                              brims with boxes of cds, several computer-topped
                              desks and filing cabinets. on a breezy recent
morning,
                              we cleared a little space at one of the desks and
talked
                              with ray about her new record and upcoming solo
tour.

                              q: "stag" feels like it was written as a piece. it
holds
                              together well. was that intentional?

                              a: i meant it to feel like a piece. some of the
songs are
                              older and i had been working on them for a while.
"black
                              heart today" is an older song, and "mtns of
glory."
                              those are the first couple of songs i'd written
that i was
                              like, "ok, it's finally happening. i'm writing the
stuff that
                              i'm going to do a solo record with." i started
writing a lot
                              more prolifically in the last few years. i wrote
some as i
                              was recording and i saw things falling together.
it
                              definitely has a thread running through it. gender
                              identity, high school -- kinda sorta -- "what's
going on
                              with my hormones" kind of thing.

                              q: so these aren't necessarily just songs that
wouldn't
                              work as indigo girls songs?

                              a: i made decisions about songs as i was writing.
it
                              might take me in a different direction had i been
thinking
                              of it as a solo song or a duo song as far as the
way the
                              melody develops. to me, a solo song has a slightly
                              more developed melody because i know i'm not
                              necessarily going to depend on emily to do a
counter
                              melody. the same with guitar parts. it's probably
made
                              me a better writer for indigo girls because i
think i'll be
                              less lazy.

                              it also has to do with subject matter, where i
felt like this
                              wasn't something that two really strong voices
should be
                              putting across. emily's voice, after all these
years,
                              comes with it's own personality and so does mine.
to
                              put her on a song like "hey castrator" doesn't
feel right. i
                              mean she could pretty much play guitar and sing
with
                              any kind of music.

                              she's really good at punk guitar. i wanted to do
                              something really autonomous. ... "late bloom" was
                              written after most of the album had already been
                              recorded ... and i was thinking about [daemon
records
                              band] three finger cowboy, who's called 1945 now.
it
                              just felt like a song that would be totally for
them. that
                              song was like the missing piece for the record. i
feel a
                              little bit like a late bloomer. it's kind of about
the whole
                              idea of this record.

                              q: your solo album feels kinda punky. even the
stark
                              appalachian feel of the true solo stuff has that
raw feel.

                              a: i could explore it more because the parameters
are
                              so much different when you're making a low budget
                              record. i think it would be hard to make a really
great
                              punk record for like $500,000, even though people
try it
                              all the time. there's something to be said for
adjusting
                              what you're doing. it's really hard to make an
arena rock
                              album for $10,000, you know (laughs). i wanted it
to be
                              raw and that's why i approached it this way.

                              i really enjoy the old field recordings that alan
lomax
                              did. so, like for [the song] "johnny rottentail,"
i was
                              really careful about the kind of mike i choose --
a certain
                              kind of mike that reflected the sonic quality of
those old
                              field recordings. those things don't cost
anything.
                              they're just creative things. that's why this
project was
                              really good for me because i think i can go back
to
                              indigo girls and be like "remember ten years ago
when
                              we used to... ?" we can do things we kind of
lost
                              touch with.

                              q: how long did the album take to record?

                              a: it took a year in between indigo girls tours. i
started it
                              in december [1999]. i was writing before that and
touring
                              with [north carolina punk band] the butchies.
there
                              were all these seeds being planted. i was thinking
about
                              what block of time i could use, and i picked this
certain
                              block of time. i thought i was going to have all
this time
                              off and i didn't have any off. it was fun, but it
was very
                              hard to separate myself.

                              q: how did you happen to record "stag" in several
                              places with several groups of musicians?

                              a: every band had a studio that i felt either they
felt
                              most comfortable in or it brought out the best
part of
                              them. for [north carolina punk band] the butchies,
i'd
                              heard a lot of stuff that they'd done in
durham[n.c.] at
                              chris stamey's studio. i liked the way that they
came
                              across there, so i just went to them. i'd drive to
them and
                              take my equipment and my microphones, any gear
that i
                              wanted to use to record with. with the rock
*a*teens,
                              in athens there's a studio there that they feel
                              comfortable in. the thing that i did all in one
place was
                              mix it all in athens because that made it hang
together
                              better for me.

                              q: speaking of the rock*a*teens, their former
rhythm
                              guitarist kelly hogan appears with the band on the
                              album, but she'd left for chicago by then hadn't
she?

                              a: she came home for like a wedding and i knew
when
                              she was going to be here. it was a scheduling
nightmare
                              for a year. when's kelly going to be around? when
can i
                              go to new york and kate [schellenbach], josephine
                              wiggs and joan jett and the studio will be
available? my
                              last mixing day with [producer] david [barbe], i
got up at
                              6 a.m. and i drove to athens. i had to work really
early
                              because i had to be in alabama that day, too. we
                              finished the mix, then i went and ate dinner with
my
                              aunt. drove through atlanta and i had to do
something
                              here. then i had to go to alabama and practice all
night,
                              and the next day wake up in the morning and record
a
                              song. then i drove from there to nashville and
mastered
                              it. the whole record. it was this long journey at
the end
                              of the record. that's the way the whole record
felt to me.
                              crazy, but in a good way.

                              q: how did you come to work with these particular
                              musicians?

                              a: some of them i knew through daemon records --
like
                              the rock*a*teens, 1945, danielle howle. the
butchies i
                              knew because i had met them a while back when kaia
                              [wilson, formerly of a band called team dresch]
first
                              started this new band. team dresch was important
to
                              me. you can listen to the song that the
rock*a*teens
                              are on, and you go "that's a rock*ateens song,"
you
                              know? i was so influenced by some of these
artists.
                              danielle has really influenced my writing. she's
helped
                              me figure out how to be a better songwriter. and
1945?
                              three finger cowboy was a very big deal to me
because
                              they were doing this pop-punk thing that was
everything i
                              like incorporated into this one style. the best of
all the
                              different worlds. and joan jett? our formative
years were
                              spent listening to joan jett. it's a way to
showcase
                              people that i think are really great.

                              q: tell me about the album cover.

                              a: this is a good friend of mine named susan
tanner.
                              she's the lead singer in a band called group sex.
                              they're a cover band. that's her dancing on her
30th
                              birthday at dottie's. [the woman with her back to
the
                              camera] is a woman that hangs out there sometimes.
i
                              just thought it was beautiful. they didn't know
each
                              other. i think this woman was having a hard night
or was
                              really sad and susan's just kind of like that. she
                              embraces the world and she just started dancing
with
                              her. it was really sweet. after that she blew out
the
                              candles on her birthday cake.

                              q: and the back cover?

                              a: that's me that my grandma took at her house.
this
                              was when she just got her new dog.

                              q: how old were you there?

                              a: i don't know. 10, maybe. (then, after a pause
for
                              mischieveous effect) same age as bart simpson.

                              q: is there a tour planned?

                              a: we're touring in april. the butchies are my
band and
                              they're going to learn all the stuff they didn't
play on.
                              we're starting march 29 at the echo lounge. we'll
be
                              going up the east coast, then down through the
midwest
                              a little bit and then we're going out the west
coast.

                              q: it's not just going to be just the album,
right?

                              a: i don't know. it's going to be a short set.
(laughs) it's a
                              three-band bill. we'll have a different opener in
different
                              regions, like tammy hart from mr. lady records is
                              opening some of it, rose polenzani from daemon,
and
                              sarah dougher from mr. lady. it'll be the first
band, then
                              the butchies play a set, then i play a set and
we'll do
                              some cover stuff together. the record's only 35 or
40
                              minutes long, so i think i'm probably going to do
a
                              couple of cover songs. i'm not going to do indigo
girls
                              songs, though. i have some other songs that aren't
on
                              the record. i'll have to figure something out,
though.
                              believe me, i've thought about that (she laughs).

                              q: do you ever forsee anything like lilith fair
happening
                              again?

                              a: i just don't know. it would be a big project.
lilith fair
                              was so much a product of the people that organized
it. it
                              was a very specific vision in the way it was run,
which
                              was really successful. it was a little corporate
for me in
                              some of the sponsorship issues, but for the most
part
                              they gave away a lot of money to a lot of great
causes. it
                              was incredibly well organized. it ran so smoothly.
                              everything did. technically speaking, the sound,
the
                              sound checks, the tickets, the guest list. all
those thing
                              that could fall apart when you do a festival-type
show. i
                              think that's really hard to accomplish. it would
be a huge
                              undertaking. me and emily try to do things on a
smaller
                              level. we always tour with other women bands
anyway.
                              basically, our tours are like miniature lilith
fairs a lot of
                              times.

                              q: let's talk about daemon. do you basically pick
the
                              bands?

                              a: it's kind of a process -- a group thing. andrea
[white]
                              and stacey [singer] -- they kinda go through the
demo
                              tapes and they'll pull things out and say "you
should
                              listen to this." they give me the whole box and i
listen to
                              everything anyway. if i like something a whole
lot, i'll
                              bring it in. if it doesn't get much reaction,
that's where we
                              drop it. i'm sure there's probably things i feel
more
                              strongly about. you always have to keep in mind
that
                              whoever's working the record and promoting it has
to
                              really love it. we're pretty together on what we
like. it
                              feels like we have the same vision politically,
                              environmentally, musically, in every way. it's
pretty
                              special at this point.

                              q: do the artists on daemon come primarily from
demos
                              or bands you've discovered in a live setting?

                              a: the first few years it was more seeing people.
like
                              [danielle howle's former band] lay quiet awhile.
they
                              were opening for ellen james society and i saw
them
                              and i was very excited. james hall, the same way.
i'd
                              been a big mary my hope fan, but then i saw james
                              play solo at clairmont lounge. incredible.
afterwards, i
                              just said "you want to do a record?" same thing
with the
                              rock*a*teens. they were playing with magnapop in
                              athens at the 40 watt. three finger cowboy was a
                              demo tape, rose polenzani was a demo tape. i get a
lot
                              of demos that i really like and i keep them and
listen to
                              them for my own pleasure. we can only do four or
five
                              records a year. then there are bands that i didn't
get
                              around to listening to the demos for six months
and
                              they'd already broken up. i write a letter: "i
really love
                              your demo." they write back: "we broke up."

                              q: the song "lucystoners" criticizes rolling stone
                              editor jann wenner for "[giving] the boys what
they
                              deserve/ but with the girls he lost his nerve."
have you
                              gotten any reaction from the magazine?

                              a: no. i'm sure i'm not big enough on their radar
screen
                              to elicit huge response. it's not that harsh. i'm
calling it
                              pretty much like it is. you can make a case pretty
easily
                              for the lack of representation, in an accurate
way, of
                              women in rolling stone. a lot of people have
brought it
                              up. the song taken as a whole is so much bigger
than
                              just that one little nursery rhyme, with the
industry and
                              the way things have changed and women's place in
it. at
                              some point, each individual has to decide whether
the
                              system is really failing them or not, and create
your own
                              infrastructure to a certain degree and try to pull
yourself
                              up and do your thing. it's jann wenner the man
that runs
                              rolling stone, not jann wenner the personal person
that
                              i don't even know.

                              q: are you worried about the conservative drift of
the
                              political climate?

                              a: some people are like "well, the good thing
about
                              bush being in office is that it's going to make
people
                              angry enough to actually do things." that doesn't
make
                              me feel any better. we're already behind as it is,
with
                              clinton being much more middle of the road than we
                              thought he was going to be. i'm sure he had to be
in
                              some ways. i mean, i'm a clinton supporter. i'm
not sure
                              people are going to be riled up. maybe they will.
why do
                              you want to have a war just because you can get
angry
                              about something? but as an activist, i was doing
as
                              much work during the clinton years as i'm going to
be
                              doing during the bush years.

                              q: how do you feel about eminem and his grammy
                              nominations?

                              a: i feel like a lot of the people complaining
about him
                              are the same people that wrote so much about him
and
                              made him into this huge media person that he is. i
think
                              eminem is insidiously hateful. i think he's a pig.
but, i
                              don't ever want any censorship to happen, because
the
                              people in charge of that are inevitably going to
be the
                              people with power -- a certain class of white
people,
                              probably mostly men. i don't want them deciding
what i
                              can listen to.

                              q: what about the negative effect it might have on
kids,
                              though?

                              a: a lot of people don't think it affects kids.
they listen
                              to things that people don't think they should be
listening
                              to, and you either turn out alright or you don't.
i don't
                              know. i haven't read enough about it. but i know
that if i
                              had a kid that wanted to listen to it, i'd
probably be like,
                              "yeah, that's ok, but we have to sit down and i
want you
                              to read these lyrics out loud to me in your own
voice and
                              understand what they mean and what they feel like
to
                              say." i think there's a lot of kids where it's
going in one
                              ear and out the other.

                              q: what have you been listening to?

                              a: i honestly haven't been listening to much. i
went out
                              and bought a bunch of stuff. it was all like dead
prez
                              and all these weird hip-hop compilations just to
kind of
                              get into this other space of music that i don't
play, that i
                              don't know how to make. i do that a lot.

                              q: do you think you've got more solo stuff in you?


                              a: i don't know. i was thinking about, you know,
just
                              trying to fit it in with everything else is really
hard. me
                              and emily have a couple of records to make for
epic still
                              and i think we're wanting to make them, and sort
of feel
                              sooner than later about it.

                              q: two albums left in the contract?

                              a: yeah. and i know we'll do more after that, too.
but
                              we're thinking of those as a set. we'll make this
next
                              record, i think we're going to do like a folk
record, and
                              then pretty quickly we'll try to do another record
kind of
                              as a companion piece. two very different records
that
                              are both the things that we do. and i don't know
if i want
                              to do anything in between those two. writing wise
it's
                              hard to write for two. that's just a lot of
material. but if i
                              write a lot of stuff, i'll do something with it.

                              q: when did you move out of town?

                              a: it's probably been about six years. it was
secret for a
                              long time. i had a few things happen that were
just a
                              little bit across the line, people showing up and
camping
                              in my front yard, coming to see me at all hours of
the
                              night. just things that i started feeling
uncomfortable
                              with. i'm also not really a city girl and
atlanta's big now
                              for me. i try to drive into town as little as
possible, just
                              because of gas and the commuting and pollution, so
i
                              come into town maybe twice a week to get
everything
                              done. i have to say, i wish they'd build some
commuter
                              lines up i-75, i-85 and 400. i think it would
really help.
                              the traffic got too bad for me. i live in the
middle of
                              nowhere and i love it. i just kinda work at home.
when
                              i'm not touring, i'm there.


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>>the record's only 35 or 40 minutes long, so i think i'm probably going to do a couple of cover songs. i'm not going to do indigo girls songs, though.>>

wow, that's the quickest i've ever been wrong about something.  ;-)

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oh my god!!!

i work at giant (md & va region) and yesterday during my shift after school
i heard a familiar song....and then emily's voice popped into my head....i
thought "no, way....not possible, especially not this song....",

but, unfortunately it is true....andy has been turned into a elevator-muzak
song....be prepared to hear it in your shopping mall near you. it will put a
smile on your face (or piss you off, depending on your view point).

peace, me
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just a quick thanks to everyone who is submitting links to interviews, etc.  all of the interviews are really interesting, and i would not find all of these on my own.

so thanks!

brian
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okay folks, the tower records here in atlanta has at most 9 copies left
because i am holding the 7" in my hands. it really is nothing special, but
of course we just have to have it. the sleeve is black and white and looks
photocopied and in a plastic covering. on the front is a black and white
picture of a snow man in front of a house and the backside is a picture of
amy holding a cat. amy's back is to the camera and all you see is the cats
face. as for the artwork on the vinyl itself....it is just some writing and
amy has drawn the daemon logo. they are being pretty sticky about the one
per person thing. there ya go. oh yeah, one side has careless and the other
a live version of mountains of glory.

me (who lives a mile from daemon and still has not gotten her pre-order
yet......)

"i'm speaking in tongues, handling you. i got religion now look at it. the
days grow longer, as we grow stronger. so shed your skin baby let it
rip...come on over now...."
---amy ray, shed your skin.

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just a little note: i've heard the muzak versions of several indigo girls
songs and it's always a little off-putting. however, i was picking up a
to-go order from my local red lobster yesterday and was pleasantly surprised
to hear, "we'll be no stranger to that dustpan and the broom!" peace
tonight, the full-fledged version. a nice surprise, particularly when the
personnel told me they had no record of my order and had to scramble to get
it ready before i beat them all to death. ;)

shannon

p.s.: who all's going to the columbus show in april?? bethany and i are
planning on going!
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got home way to exhausted to do anything....
not even open stag and put it in ..put it is playing now..!!!!!!!!!!!!!yeaheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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that's the way she signs. you may have luck getting it personalized to you
but its a scribble.

emily's is the same basically.

i'm hoping to catchup with her in columbus. anybody know where that list of
instore appearances is? i can't find it on pollstar.com or the daemon site.
i was hoping she'd do one in ny or phily too.

ninjadave.


>anyone else a little disappointed in the autograph??  mine has an "x" and
>an
>amy ray scribble.
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someone quoted an article (i think) that amy will not be doing any ig songs.
with that said, is it possible that these will be extremely short shows? her
set i mean. under an hour?? i hope not.

i know the show in wv was short (scheduled that way) but i thought she
played an ig tune or two. i can't remember. anybody have that setlist?

that could be why she's only charging $10. any thoughts?

ninjadave.

"rock is cool but the struggle is better.." -ar
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word is, she'll play a short set (like 45 minutes or
so), with no ig songs (though chaipas bound is
possible) and  a few covers thrown in.


--- david murray <rush22dog@hotmail.com> wrote:
> someone quoted an article (i think) that amy will
> not be doing any ig songs.
> with that said, is it possible that these will be
> extremely short shows? her
> set i mean. under an hour?? i hope not.
>
> i know the show in wv was short (scheduled that way)
> but i thought she
> played an ig tune or two. i can't remember. anybody
> have that setlist?
>
> that could be why she's only charging $10. any
> thoughts?
>
> ninjadave.
>
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>from: shedyourskin 23 <shedyourskin23@hotmail.com>

>

>okay folks, the tower records here in atlanta has at most 9 copies left
>because i am holding the 7" in my hands.

  i got mine last night.  (tower puts new tuesday releases on sale at midnight
on monday for the fanatical.)  there were at least 3 others in front of me who
got the 7".  the guy behind the counter thought there were only 100 made, but
the person ahead of me corrected him and said it was more like 400 from the
daemon list we've seen.

  my early impression of stag is that i really like "laramie" (_very_ neil
young-ish) and "on your honor".
  i kind of don't like the more elaborate version of "measure of me".  the
timidity of that early boot version from the 9:30 club fits the lyric a lot
better to me.  plus, the added verse ("i want to take him to the show/i'm
crossing over what you know/is it the boy you need in me/or the girl that you
could be" -- kaia wilson's contribution?) and the deleted verse ("i can get the
girls/but the boys just laugh") changes the feel a little bit.  originally, the
song had more of a balance between internal self-doubt at the speaker's
dichotomy and the external discomfort society has with things/people that don't
feet neatly in one box.  this way the focus is almost all on the external issue.

  amy confirmed in that atlanta journal-constitution article that the cover
photo is of susan tanner (of "me and jesus, we're of the same heart ..." fame).
she's the one i used to refer to as "the interpretive dance girl" way back at
ellen james society shows.  (still lamenting the retirement of chris mcguire
from the music scene.)

-- ron

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hey, coalition, lay down your mission."
-- "laramie", amy ray

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   i got my april issue of jane magazine yesterday in
the mail(great timing as i am in the northeast in the
middle of the blizzard) and when i got to the reviews,
lo and behold there was a review of stag! i already
checked the jane site for a link and the review's not
on there yet, as the content on the site is from
march, so i'll just type verbatim from the hard copy:
excerpted from jane magazine april 2001 issue, pg. 176
copyright fairchild publications
amy ray, stag (daemon)
(rated top dollar on a scale, running from the gold
standard,(pile of gold bricks) top dollar(stack of
dollahs), bargain basement(dime), and worthless(penny)
unlike eminem, who mimics industry fat cats by using
high pitched girly-man voices, the now solo indigo
girl amy ray goes after them- and rolling stone's jann
wenner, in particular with lyrics that singe. she
describes the rs boys' club refrigerator as being
covered with "100 ways to say "blow me" spelled out
with a magnetic poetry kit. this album has an
electriic drum heavy beat, all but "lazyboy" which is
the type of song you'd want amy to perform at your
bedside the night you're too tired to ponder your role
in the universe. and for me, that would be at least
once a week- katy mccoll
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in a message dated 3/6/01 2:43:47 pm, usul@mindspring.com writes:

<< i kind of don't like the more elaborate version of "measure of me".  the

timidity of that early boot version from the 9:30 club fits the lyric a lot

better to me.  plus, the added verse ("i want to take him to the show/i'm

crossing over what you know/is it the boy you need in me/or the girl that you

could be" -- kaia wilson's contribution?) and the deleted verse ("i can get
the

girls/but the boys just laugh") changes the feel a little bit.  originally,
the

song had more of a balance between internal self-doubt at the speaker's

dichotomy and the external discomfort society has with things/people that
don't

feet neatly in one box.  this way the focus is almost all on the external
issue.

>>

hey ron, i totally see your point about the equilibrium between internal vs
external conflicts.   more importantly, does anyone get chills when you hear
that heartbeat-like drum effect after, "i can't do it, so i ain't worth a
damn"?

-chee

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my mom wants you kids to know that as of 5:30ish tonight music millenium still
had some 7"s left. you can call them up and they're really nice about holding
one for you and stuff like that. their number is on the web.
-sam (computer programing sucks)

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i just picked a copy of the 7" single.

i like the studio tune "careless" one side a a little better than the live "mountains of glory" on side b. i was surprized to learn that the record store received a delivery of the vinyl single before they had received a delivery of "stag." i walked out with the single and not the album!

anyway, is there anyone out there who can burn the
7" vinyl onto a cd? i would be willing to loan
my copy of the single for that purpose. provided
the kind person who burns the cd for me also burns
one for anyone who would be willing to send in
a cdr.

how about it? email me privately and we will work
something out!

-scott

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i wouldn't put the vinyl near any open flames...

all one needs to do is tape the 7" to a tape and then
it would be extremely easy to put to mp3, then cdr.

unfortunately, i have no vinyl, no record player and
no time to perhaps get one...and i'm off to a concert
tonight...

i'm sure someone has the ability to do this - if you
need a web server or help distributing it - let me
know.

by the way - the "live" version has been on napster
for a while - dont know if someone could just record
careless and scan the cover art for a bootleg single

cover thought for the tour - duncan a la "the breathe"
campaign fans of pearl jam did in 1998...

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amy ray goes solo with 'stag' album
decatur, ga. (ap) - the indigo girls' amy ray makes her solo debut on the new
album ''stag,'' produced on her own small independent label.

ray describes the album, released tuesday by decatur-based daemon records, as
having a ''thread running through it. ... gender identity, high school -
kinda sorta 'what's going on with my hormones' kind of thing.''

ray, 36, is best known as half of the folk-pop duo indigo girls, which she
and emily saliers put together in the early 1980s.

the songs on ''stag'' are ones she wrote in recent years, she told the
atlanta journal-constitution. ''i feel a bit like a late bloomer. it's kind
of about the whole idea of this record.''

ray plans to tour in april with the butchies, a north carolina punk band.


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<br>decatur, ga. (ap) - the indigo girls' amy ray makes her solo debut on the new
<br>album ''stag,'' produced on her own small independent label.
<br>
<br>ray describes the album, released tuesday by decatur-based daemon records, as
<br>having a ''thread running through it. ... gender identity, high school -
<br>kinda sorta 'what's going on with my hormones' kind of thing.''
<br>
<br>ray, 36, is best known as half of the folk-pop duo indigo girls, which she
<br>and emily saliers put together in the early 1980s.
<br>
<br>the songs on ''stag'' are ones she wrote in recent years, she told the
<br>atlanta journal-constitution. ''i feel a bit like a late bloomer. it's kind
<br>of about the whole idea of this record.''
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<br>ray plans to tour in april with the butchies, a north carolina punk band.
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hello there,

i was wondering if anyone else is encountering as much trouble as i am trying
to get a copy of stag and the 7" promo vinyl.  i went to newbury comics in
amherst, maand they rudely told me due to the weather they might not even get
the cd out on the shelves today even if they have it and for the second time
i inquired in as many weeks seem to have no clue about the 7" promo that goes
with it.

i also called pure pop in burlington, vt and they said they had no idea they
were getting a 7" single and the cd's were sent to ga for some reason.  they
said their distributor (who deals mostly with women's music) is looking into
it and the woman asked me if i had a phone number for daemon (which i don't)
to try to find out about it because people have been asking about it.

i already have a promo copy of stag which i found in a used cd store 2 weeks
ago, all i want is the 7" vinyl.  if anyone can get an extra copy of the
single, or even get me another copy of stag with the single and can send it
to me i will gladly send you a check for them and postage.  i can also offer
to trade it for ig boots (i have 150+), or a ticket to the amy ray show in
northampton on 4/8 (there are still tix left).

thanks a lot.

-debigogrl

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well,

my problem is that there just isn't a store near me that is carrying
them.  i'm in philadelphia (well near it) and it looks the like the
closest location is in new york.  oh well.

my sister lives in burlington and she is going to pure pop for me today
to check it out, so if she fins out anything new in person, i'll let
you know.

jean


--- deb o'donoghue <debigogrl@aol.com> wrote:
> hello there,
>
> i was wondering if anyone else is encountering as much trouble as i
> am trying
> to get a copy of stag and the 7" promo vinyl.  i went to newbury
> comics in
> amherst, maand they rudely told me due to the weather they might not
> even get
> the cd out on the shelves today even if they have it and for the
> second time
> i inquired in as many weeks seem to have no clue about the 7" promo
> that goes
> with it.
>
> i also called pure pop in burlington, vt and they said they had no
> idea they
> were getting a 7" single and the cd's were sent to ga for some
> reason.  they
> said their distributor (who deals mostly with women's music) is
> looking into
> it and the woman asked me if i had a phone number for daemon (which i
> don't)
> to try to find out about it because people have been asking about it.
>
> i already have a promo copy of stag which i found in a used cd store
> 2 weeks
> ago, all i want is the 7" vinyl.  if anyone can get an extra copy of
> the
> single, or even get me another copy of stag with the single and can
> send it
> to me i will gladly send you a check for them and postage.  i can
> also offer
> to trade it for ig boots (i have 150+), or a ticket to the amy ray
> show in
> northampton on 4/8 (there are still tix left).
>
> thanks a lot.
>
> -debigogrl
>
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hey y'all~
    well now that i finally got my car uburried from the snow (it's about
damn time) i am going to venture out to newbury comics and *hope* that they
still have the stag 7" (doubtful maybe? but still hoping!). damn blizzard...
i need to move out of new hampshire. grr... peace all.
~alyssa

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hi all-

i finally got my (slightly defective--they're replacing it) pre-ordered copy
of stag.  deep breath.  here goes.

solid album.  i like it a lot.  it's not an ig album, but what else is?

most unexpected delight:  laramie
best backing vocals/guest artist:  joan jett, queen of rock and roll
best added/new vocals (from performance ones):  measure of me
song that still just doesn't work for me:  measure of me.  sorry guys, i
just don't get it.
most mysterious song:  lazyboy. what the hell is that about?  lazyboy like a
chair?
coolest lyrics:  lazyboy
frankly just coolest song:  johnny rottentail
most interesting chord progression:  laramie, chorus
lyric most like me:  "my father's house is a house of regret, with rooms i
can't sleep in and jokes i don't get."

okay, what exactly are mountains of glory?  are they what i think they are?

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my apologies if this already has been posted:

from the ny post:

http://www.nypost.com/03042001/entertainment/25379.htm

lone indi girl
sunday,march 4,2001

by mary huhn

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amy ray considers herself a late bloomer. it's an odd statement coming
from a grammy-winning artist who formed the roots of the hit group the
indigo girls in junior high school with her classmate emily saliers, more
than 20 years ago in decatur, georgia.
but it's only recently that ray, now 36, went into the studio for her
first solo effort, "stag," which comes out tuesday on her own indie label,
daemon records.

the singer-guitarist said she needed the time to get comfortable with
creating and performing songs without saliers, who ray's known since the
age of 10.

"it took a long time for me to get the confidence to be my own guitar
player, make up my own harmonies, all those things," she says. "emily is a
superpower as far as music goes. she's way beyond me, technically. i've
always been able to fall back on that."

ray says that during the last five years she's focused on becoming a
better songwriter and musician, until she got to the point where she
imagined she could go it alone.

and when she imagined it, she had no choice but to do it, she says, to
find another musical outlet.

the indigo girls are known for their folk-rock sound, though they traded
their acoustic guitars for electric ones back in 1993. ray says she began
writing songs that didn't "feel like" indigo girls songs about four years
ago.

"i got tired of fitting it into the mold," she says. "i thought if i
worked on this other project i would be able to get that side of me out
and have a place to put it."

so she rounded up members of the bands she liked - atlanta's rock*a*teens
and the butchies - to contribute to "stag."

one of the album's songs, "hey castrator," was done in new york with ray's
own dream team of musicians: joan jett, the breeders' josephine wiggs and
luscious jackson's kate schellenbach. (jett hit the studio after an
all-night dress rehearsal for broadway's "the rocky horror picture show.")

"we're all good friends and i have jammed with them before," ray says.
"joan can play anything. she's the consummate musician."

the songs deal with her "confrontations with the oppressive elements of
the music industry, my frustrations with the imposed standards of gender
all around us and the shortcomings i see in myself," ray wrote in a
statement.

"stag," the finished product, was less radical than ray and others,
thought it would be, she says.

"it's almost seems tame compared to some of bands i listen to and put
records out by [on her label]," she says.

the musicians turned out to sound better - as musicians - than she
expected, so in the end, the sound was less raw.

"i didn't want the guitar parts to be buried, or f--ed up and muddy. i
wanted it to sound good," she says.

"it's punk in its approach and its sensibility, in that punk is the music
of the community and implies that diy [do-it-yourself] sense that any one
can do it. in that way i'm a real flag bearer for punk. musically, i think
it has lot of rock of in it, just regular old rock."

she hopes that music fans who don't particularly like the indigo girls
will go "stag."

"maybe those who haven't heard what the indigo girls have done in the last
five years, which isn't folk rock - maybe they'll check out our last
album, 'come on now social,' [which]was very electric, very rock. it's
probably louder than this record is in some places."

stepping into the studio was also partly a matter of being ready to let go
of some control of daemon records.

ray has been running daemon, based in decatur, for more than 11 years. she
describes the label as having a "co-op kind of vibe" as it supports indie
bands and works with other indie labels, in building an indie community.

ray used to hit the stage solo, but that was back in the duo's early days
together.

saliers and ray began performing as a duo in high school, initially as the
b band, then saliers and ray.

ray only left georgia to attend vanderbilt university in nashville for a
year.

"it wasn't my cup of tea," she says. "i thought i wanted to be away from
home and have a different music scene."

but nashville wasn't her music scene, so she returned to georgia to attend
emory university in atlanta, where she majored in english and religion.
while she listened to artists such as neil young, patti smith and the
clash in high school, she reveled in the underground scene of atlanta,
listening to bands such as mercyland, nightporters and drivin' and cryin'.
saliers and ray renamed themselves the indigo girls at emory, releasing
albums on their own label. in 1988 they were signed to epic records.

but when she and emily weren't playing together during college, ray played
solo gigs for extra money.

"i was pretty bad," she admits. "i played covers. i even played at a
country bar. i wasn't a very good writer. i was pretty tame and acted
timid. but i was learning. i've learned the best stuff i know in the last
five years."

as she says, she's a late bloomer.

there's no crystal ball to predict how "stag" will do on the billboard
charts or the grammy scorecard, but ray is happy to be where she is,
making music.

"the future definitely feels like a better place than the past," she says.

which is always a good way to feel.

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de-lurking to offer assistance.

i have a common problem.  i live in jacksonville, fl, and the nearest
store carrying the 7" is in orlando, about 2 1/2 hours away.   i can
burn cd's, but i don't have any means to play the vinyl.  if someone can
send me a tape, i can burn it to cd.  i will do this for b&p, plus the
solemn promise that everyone who participates has bought, or will buy
stag.

i'm still fuzzy on the legality of this offer.  could our legal scholars
let me know if this is ok?  i promise that i will double my annual
donation to honor the earth as renumerance.

jane mcclarin

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does anyone know where i can get the chat transcript for last night's
chat with amy ray?
i looked at the chat transcript pasge and it wasnit listed, they only
listed two i could click on.

if you have a chat transcript, would you be willing to email me a copy?
i would appreciate it!

thanks!
barb

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more info on pure pop:

just got a call from my sister.  pure pop's shipment got sent to a ga
record store by mistake and is being rerouted right now. they expect to
have them in stock on saturday at the earliest, more likely monday.
they will not take names and hold them for anyone.

jean


--- jean moses <sneakyjean@yahoo.com> wrote:
> well,
>
> my problem is that there just isn't a store near me that is carrying
> them.  i'm in philadelphia (well near it) and it looks the like the
> closest location is in new york.  oh well.
>
> my sister lives in burlington and she is going to pure pop for me
> today
> to check it out, so if she fins out anything new in person, i'll let
> you know.
>
> jean
>
>
> --- deb o'donoghue <debigogrl@aol.com> wrote:
> > hello there,
> >
> > i was wondering if anyone else is encountering as much trouble as i
> > am trying
> > to get a copy of stag and the 7" promo vinyl.  i went to newbury
> > comics in
> > amherst, maand they rudely told me due to the weather they might
> not
> > even get
> > the cd out on the shelves today even if they have it and for the
> > second time
> > i inquired in as many weeks seem to have no clue about the 7" promo
> > that goes
> > with it.
> >
> > i also called pure pop in burlington, vt and they said they had no
> > idea they
> > were getting a 7" single and the cd's were sent to ga for some
> > reason.  they
> > said their distributor (who deals mostly with women's music) is
> > looking into
> > it and the woman asked me if i had a phone number for daemon (which
> i
> > don't)
> > to try to find out about it because people have been asking about
> it.
> >
> > i already have a promo copy of stag which i found in a used cd
> store
> > 2 weeks
> > ago, all i want is the 7" vinyl.  if anyone can get an extra copy
> of
> > the
> > single, or even get me another copy of stag with the single and can
> > send it
> > to me i will gladly send you a check for them and postage.  i can
> > also offer
> > to trade it for ig boots (i have 150+), or a ticket to the amy ray
> > show in
> > northampton on 4/8 (there are still tix left).
> >
> > thanks a lot.
> >
> > -debigogrl
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<<i was wondering if anyone else is encountering as much trouble as i am
trying to get a copy of stag and the 7" promo vinyl.>>

still haven't got my copy from daemon. there's not a store in my state (pa)
getting the 7". fortunately, thanks to a tip from a fellow listee (my hero
of the day), a copy is (allegedly) on its way...

<<anyway, is there anyone out there who can burn the 7" vinyl onto a cd?>>
<<all one needs to do is tape the 7" to a tape and then it would be
extremely easy to put to mp3, then cdr.>>

i can go one better - i'll be plugging my record player right into the
'puter...

what i do then depends on when the 7" arrives, probably someone'll beat me
to it (those nifty folks over at brianclary.com are probably already on the
ball).

speaking of boot offers, i have one almost ready to go:
complete 'live at the fillmore '99' (2 cds)
paper viewed (great woods and toronto lilith fair '96 (7?)) (2cds)
original indigo (2 cds)
indigo guests (3 cds)
and, if i get my act together, early recordings vol. 5.

one question. does anyone have a copy of michelle malone's
unreleased-except-as-a-promo 'bird on fire' cd, who can mp3 me the last
track (butter biscuit).


kids, go see eddi reader if you can. on pain of death.
and buy her new album.
end of public service announcement.

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hey there-- got my copy of stag from daemon-- and after a couple listens,
i know i won't be listening to it anymore. just not my thing- sorry y'all.
so if anyone is interested in buying my copy (i've only listened to it 3
times) let me know. i'm asking $12 (which is what i paid for it,) and i'll
throw in the shipping to make it worth your while.

thanks,
e

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hey all,

i just wanted to express my opinion of stag.  i have to admit that i wasn't
all that excited about it and i wasn't sure i would get into it because i am
obsessed with emily.  so i didn't think i would like amy on her own.  i told
myself i would give it a fair chance and well, i was completely wrong.  this
is a great cd.  i am so impressed and have been listening to nothing else
since i got it a week ago.  we are planning on seeing her in tennessee and i
can't wait.

oh, one more thing..............i realize that the probability on this is
low, but if anyone has the opportunity to get an extra 7" i will find a way
to repay you.  there are no stores by me or i would not ask.  i have a
pretty decent boot collection together and i also make jewelry.

traci drago
st. louis, mo
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go to : http://www.rockrgrl.com/current.htm

enjoy,
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http://www.nerve.com/regulars/viewsreviews/

southern discomfort

a soft-bellied, hummable investigation into going solo, being butch and
feeling an outlaw kind of desire, amy ray's stag isn't restricted to men;
it's got nothing to do with horses or deer or pornography. but it is, in its
way, a stag party. ray, who's been performing as the dark-haired, throaty
half of the indigo girls for the past thirteen years, shows up on this album
unaccompanied, in a manner of speaking, by the ladies - emily saliers, epic
records - she's been taking to the dance all these years. and, having
assembled a new collection of rebellious musicians (southerners, punk
rockers, dykes) she throws herself a giddy, badass party. no music business
executives and no straight girls allowed in the studio, thanks.
     released on ray's own eleven-year-old indie label (georgia-based daemon
records), the album features a mini-who's who of the queer girl music
scene - icons joan jett and kate schellenbach (formerly of luscious jackson)
play backup on a couple of songs, and members of underground bands
rock*a*teens and three finger cowboy join in on one or two others. but,
poetically enough, it's the butchies - a north carolina punk trio
distributed by an outfit called mr. lady records - that accompanies ray
through the emotional and musical core of the album. the butchies, for
instance, join ray on what presents itself as the album's signature tune,
"lucy stoners." a smart aleck&150;y, flowing, electric guitar-based track,
"lucy stoners" combines a feminist critique of the music industry with
transcendent, rebellious harmony. "we were talking ticket slump," she sings,
"trying to put our finger on it./ quantify the undoing/ of each little
step - its just a lack of press." indigo girl-like, she and the butchies
strum their guitars while ray's playful disses - of blowjob-obsessed
musicians, the music industry's marketing strategies and the popularity of
"faggot-bashing" songs - crescendo. by the time the sing-song-y, teasing
chorus comes around ("janny wenner, janny wenner, rolling stone's most
fearless leader/ gave the boys what they deserve but with the girls he lost
his nerve") she and her pals are happily yowling with anti-corporate, queer
girl solidarity. as the track ends, they repeat the chorus over and over,
deliriously, as if gathered around somebody's hairbrush at a pajama party.
"lucy stoners don't need boners," they howl. (lucy stoners: girls who take
after nineteenth-century feminist lucy stone, the first married woman to
keep her name? girls who smoke pot? stone butches? take your pick.)
     but ray's collaborations with the butchies don't just feature
tough-mouthed activist passion. the butchies also play backup to ray's
considerations of how it feels to have her butch heart broken. on "mtns of
glory" - the most divulgent track on the cd - they amp it up as ray spins
her version of "heartbreak hotel." "i'm gonna miss being the boy," she
sings, "i'm gonna miss being the man . . . hey baby don't you want to feel/
mountains of glory, mountains of glory?" layered, subtle and rhythmic, these
lines are about as revealing as ray ever gets about her personal life;
despite the pornographic promise of the name of the album, it delivers
almost nothing that's expressly erotic. there are no juicy details about
ray's past or present love life, and only the barest, most cryptic
references to the very idea of her sexual desire. "hey castrator" (which
features, instead of the butchies, joan jett, kate schellenbach and the
breeders' josephine wiggs), an open-ended, sinister ditty about a sexually
frustrated teenager who can't get a date, hints at something personal. "i
hate myself for turning on," ray intones darkly at the end of the song.
"take this strong out of me." but because the song is told through an
ambiguous series of short poem-lines, its impossible to tell whether the
teenager in question is meant to be ray as a young, lonely, self-hating
queer girl or as a teenaged rapist.
     and so the onus is on the politics to give this stag party its energy.
the language about her personal life may be cloaked, but ray keeps nothing
back when crooning about, say, homophobia or misogyny in the music
industry - to mixed effect. at its best, stag combines plucky political
passion with the joys of melody; once in a while, though, her activist
anthems devolve into limp slogan-songs. "laramie," her tribute to matthew
shepard, for example, drives a politically decent impulse into a musical
heap of rehashed, leaflet-y political argument. despite a few satisfyingly
angry lines ("those rednecks are just doing/ what the classy fucker's
thinking") and its noble intentions, the song is mostly uncharacteristically
flavorless and rigid: "what we need is a little addition/ an ounce of
prevention/ and the weight of the law," ray sings, as if on a hate crimes
lobby trip. "hey coalition," she adds (referring to the christian
coalition), "lay down your mission." the song rhymes, and it wants the right
things; but it could use a little of that poetic subtlety ray manages so
well when it comes to treating the contours of her personal life.
     still, it's easy to forgive her for these excesses. ray is so obviously
riding a post-lilith fair/all-girl collaboration high that it makes you feel
ungenerous to hold a grudge. and anyway, as she writes in the liner notes,
"the heart of this record is . . . in that southern punk ethic -
subversiveness with a smile." as everyone knows, butch girls with a southern
punk ethic are hard to resist.

for more rachel mattson, read:
boygirl, boygirl
drive: a suburban mystery
the sum of the parts: showtime's "sex in the twentieth century"
views & reviews

2000 rachel mattson and nerve.com, inc.


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the whole amy article is not available on-line! sorry for the tease...brenda

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hey folks,

this is forwarded from the news-only list...

-sherlyn

---------- forwarded message ----------
date: wed, 7 mar 2001 17:25:05 est
from: aaogilvie@aol.com
subject: [ig-news] amy ray 7" in washington dc.

i wanted to give a heads-up to dc people.

on thursday (march 8), 3 area olsson's books & records should have some of
the 7" promos being given away with purchase of amy's stag.

these are the stores in georgetown, dupont circle & in arlington, virginia at
the courthouse store. the dc stores open at 10 & the virginia store opens at
8 i think.

i think each store will have 10 copies, & i know they have been fielding a
lot of calls.

good luck!

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hi folks,

just wanted to let y'all know that i'll have limited access for the next
couple of days due to attending a conference in nyc.

please be patient with any administration details and i will be back online
saturday evening.

thank you.

jen lucero
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hey all~
    i went to newbury comics today to pick it up... i thought i would have to
pay for it... i wasn't expecting it to be free but as far as i know newbury
comics (the one near me in nashua, nh) still has a bunch left. apparently
there isn't a huge call for ig round these parts... i haven't listened to it
yet becuase our record player is a bit shot but perhaps if i feel like
fiddling with it someday and giving it a couple of good whacks it may decide
to play for me. anyhow.. i am just happy i got one. i wasn't expecting to.
later all.
peace,
~alyssa

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the newbury comics near me has a bunch of the album. if any of you need me
to, i will go pick one up for you. email me privately.
alyssa

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hey all,

i'm not going to even try to get one because i don't *own* a record player.
however i am really interested in hearing the two tracks -- especially the
unreleased one.

if anyone has converted it to either tape or cdr, i would be really
interested in setting up a trade.  i have a nice sized bootleg collection.
please e-mail me if you're interested.

:-) karen

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i wanted to get a copy of the stag album i was wondering where they are
selling it at. missy

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