lifeblood: listlogs: 2001-03e


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date:         thu, 29 mar 2001 06:38:57 -0800
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subject:      tonight - extra tix?
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hkf's,

just looking for an extra ticket to tonight's amy ray
show if anyone has it???  i'll be checking this until
5pm so give me a holla if you have one...  free hugs
and warm conversation available (plus face of
course... :)

thanks!
-mike
a+e=ig

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date:         thu, 29 mar 2001 07:14:29 -0800
reply-to:     mike reynolds <michael_reynolds@yahoo.com>
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subject:      amy tour - publicity contact?
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hi -
can anyone steer me to who is handling publicity for
the ar / butchies tour - i have been contributing as a
freelance sr. writer to a website, i dont know if
daemon is handling photo/ interview request or the
"usual" people (as of '97? - when i dealt with ig last
from a writers perspective)

i simply want to cover a couple tour shows, the above
request isnt out of the ordinary.

any help would be appreciated,

mike r.


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date:         thu, 29 mar 2001 08:03:26 -0800
reply-to:     amy swenson <amy_indigirl@yahoo.com>
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amy ray and the butchies are listed as performers at michigan this
year. as an aside, so is dar williams. wish i could go! :)

amy

full schedule:
http://www.michfest.com/stages/stages.htm

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date:         thu, 29 mar 2001 12:37:23 est
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what follows is the link and the copy that appears on
the tower records web site. it is a diary that amy
ray wrote about the production of "stag." enjoy!

http://www.towerrecords.com/promo/amyray/

the making of stag was one long road trip. i traversed through four seasons and four states, carrying tapes from one house to another, and taking down the sounds of some of my favorite bands. my point in making the record was more about the process than the outcome. you know, that annoying thing that some sage-like person is always
reminding us of - the journey is the destination and all that.

when enough songs had piled up that didn't seem indigo-like, i started researching how i would work
with all the bands that i saw as necessary to the project. the butchies, a punk band out of durham,
n.c. was the best place to start. at some point you
just have to make that leap and when i did i found myself driving to durham for our first rehearsal feeling like a girl on her first date. we practiced in the
basement for a couple of days and then went into chris stamey's home studio to start recording. the goal with each band became to get their contribution down on tape and then i could go to atlanta to finish up my own thing. i figured if i could work with each band in its hometown and at a studio where they are comfy, i would save time and money. with the butchies, we recorded onto protools and tried to get as much of a live take as possible. the first session with them was cut short by a
snow storm, but we were able to get keeper recordings of "laramie" and "mountains of glory". the second session was months later. during the interim, i had time to listen to and work on what we had done. this was good because i needed to fix some sound problems like amp settings, drum sounds, and vocal mics. the first few songs are always the hardest because you're sort of setting up your basic template and vibe for the whole
record. down the road i had to contend with the good performance/bad recording syndrome.

ultimately the performance is more important to me, but i am anal about getting the sounds i need. we did a lot of tricks in the mix phase to adjust the drums and bass. my favorite was putting a microphone on an amp and
running the snare drum through the amp to get a better snare sound. our second session was super successful, because we had time adjust our set up. we recorded a new arrangement of "measure of me" (this song went through three configurations), and good live versions of "lucystoners" and "on your honor".

the rockateens are a killer georgia punk band. we rehearsed in their practice space in atlanta and recorded at david barbe's studio in athens. the song i
recorded with the rockateens, "black heart today," was the first song i finished writing for stag. i knew when i was writing it that my perfect scenario would be to do it with them. david's studio is cool because it uses a
2 inch 16 track machine-this means a fat sound. i wanted to experience the difference in sound between tape and digital. there is a significant difference and i think tape usually sounds better for rock/punk. there is something about the glue it puts between every track.
my experience with david led me to decide to mix the record at his studio. we would transfer all the tracks from digital formats to tape and get the analog sound in the loop for the mix.

i traveled to new york to work with kate schellenbach, josephine wiggs, and joan jett. i sent tapes of "hey castrator" to jo and kate and they worked on the
song before i got there. we practiced at kate's flat for a couple of hours. i had jammed with kate, jo and joan a few times before, so i knew what to expect. jo and kate are both heavy on the groove and good at setting up a defined rhythm track. we recorded in a studio located in an old firehouse in brooklyn. this studio used yet another recording format. kate, jo, and i set up in one room together to get the basic tracks, then kate and jo played keys and glockenspiel. joan could not get there until midnight because she had rocky horror picture
show rehearsal, so we had to finish all of our stuff and leave tracks open for her. although she had never heard the song before, joan came in and put her tracks
down without a hitch.

the next few months, in between indigo tours, i finished harmonies and guitar parts at orphan studio in atlanta. danielle howle came in and put down some vocals too. i decided to record a couple of acoustic songs. i hadn't intended to have anything on the record acoustic, but i just had the urge. "johnny rottentail" was recorded live with a royer ribbon mic and a neuman 67 tube mic. i used the same mics for "lazyboy" but i put down two tracks of guitar and vocals and panned them hard right and left.

i decided to start the mix at this point even though i wasn't sure if i had all the songs i wanted. it was an involved process to get things out of the digital format
over to tape. glenn matullo, my atlanta studio engineer, did the transfer with david barbe. i mixed in about 10 days. we had to do a few remixes and finagle some bad sounding tracks, but on the whole the mix came together in an organic way. i had to get used to not having a partner involved, but it was good for me to learn to
trust my instincts. on the last mix day, i drove to alabama after my mixing and practiced a new song with the band 1945. i had just written "late bloom" and it was very important to me to get this song on the record. so i had a crazy two days, rehearsing, recording, and mixing in alabama, then driving to nashville to master
the whole project. i arrived in nashville around 4 am and stayed up all night at the days inn listening to sequencing ideas and picking my mixes. by the time i went in to the mastering studio i was fried. mastering is a hassle but it's necessary. i spent too long on this final step because i couldn't let go.

i sequenced the cd based mostly on lyrical content. my intent is to have the listener taken through a sort of thematic experience, but i hope everyone can decide for
themselves what it all means. i am extra pleased about the musical cohesiveness of the project, which i think is due to the mixing stage. it really helped to mix on analog tape and all in one place (except "late bloom"). it also helped to have a consistent studio in atlanta to go back to where i could fill in the blanks and look at how it all was coming together. the biggest props go to the bands that helped me to create stag. they all have
their own recordings so anyone that hasn't should check them out.

thanks,
xamy 2-09-01

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date:         thu, 29 mar 2001 15:39:06 est
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subject:      15th annual jerrys birthday show 7/20+21** update***   (off topic)
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   in terra alta west va  at  sunshine daydreams  campground w/ 2 nites of
ekoostik hookah ,jazz mandolin project,derek trucks band,keller williams,tom
constanten (former dead keyboard player)  and more~  for more info   <a
href="http://www.sunshinedreams.com">sunshine day dreams  camp</a>      and
for tickets   <a href="http://www.sciticketing.com"> sci ticketing</a>

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date:         thu, 29 mar 2001 10:43:58 -0800
reply-to:     larissa brown <larissa.brown@sun.com>
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subject:      re: new ca dates - saratoga
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i know amy wrote about the front seats at this event being for the season
ticketholders... ive been to gigs there (shawn colvin it was) and we had the
cheap seats, they were not close but still very cool, it has a
greek-theateresque feel and i did not feel toobad. of course, my love for shawn
is nothing compared to my love for a&e, so...

but still! don't be *too* sad. (unless you're me, and these concerts fall
exactly a week after your first born is expected to arrive! i *doubt* i'll be up
to it! i may get tix just in case, but still!)

:)

(worth it)

-larissa


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>subject: new ca dates - saratoga
>to: indigo-girls@netspace.org
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>dates on ticketmaster:
>
>saratoga mtn. winery - 7/25 and 7/26, internet onsale 4/8
>
>woo hoo! :)
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date:         fri, 30 mar 2001 08:13:29 -0800
reply-to:     lisa tatonetti <tatonetti.2@osu.edu>
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hey folks,

i emailed two days ago looking for help w/nyc tix.  just a note to say a
great big thanks to all the list folks who emailed with help, ideas, or
just plain commiseration!!!  i bought two tix from a wonderful listee who
is sending the tix even before getting the money.  such a wonderful indigo
fan thing to do, dontcha think?

i've been on the list, oh, gosh, 5 or 6 years now and, throughout that
time, i've been impressed over and over again by the kindness and
incredible generosity of all the good people who make up this community.
i've had people make me tapes and cds, get tickets, provide places to stay
on ig road trips, and pick me up at airports, and, best of all, i've made
some great friends.  at times it's made graduate school bearable when it
seemed too much.  i'll graduate this summer and head to a whole new
job/world teaching native lit at u wisconsin, oshkosh--it's awfully nice to
know that this community will go with me.

:) lisa

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anyone out there a fan of dixie chicks ??

i'm trying to track down a copy of a concert special that aired on nbc in
late fall or early winter 2000.

i wasn't able to tape it that night, and thought they would release it on
video by now, but no luck.

if anyone has a copy of it, and would be willing to dub a copy for me, e-mail
me and we'll work something out.

thanks and sorry for the nigc

chris

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<html><font face=arial,helvetica><font  size=2>anyone out there a fan of dixie chicks ??
<br>
<br>i'm trying to track down a copy of a concert special that aired on nbc in
<br>late fall or early winter 2000.
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<br>i wasn't able to tape it that night, and thought they would release it on
<br>video by now, but no luck.
<br>
<br>if anyone has a copy of it, and would be willing to dub a copy for me, e-mail
<br>me and we'll work something out.
<br>
<br>thanks and sorry for the nigc
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<br>chris</font></html>

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i know everyone that was there is probably still sleeping...but i just wanted to let everyone know how much amy rocked at the echo last night...
don't have an in order setlist...but they pretty much played the cd (1945 came in from birmingham to play on late bloom and played one of their own songs off their upcoming cd)
they ended the set with refugee by tom petty which was great!

the butchies played a good mix of new and old stuff in their set and were selling their new cd at the show! (it comes out april 15th on mr. lady)

group sex rocked!!!!!! emily joined them on stage for "school's out" (alice cooper) and another tune that is slipping my sleepy mind! she looked like she was having a blast!!!!!! and emily and amy both played on "maggie may" (rod stewart)

anyway...those of you that weren't there missed a great show that was well worth sitting in the rain for!!!!!!

back to work now for me...

d:)


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subject:      re: amy ray at michigan womyn's fest
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didn't the ig perform there last year.  so i guess this means they
won't be this year?  that's is a bummer.

jean


--- amy swenson <amy_indigirl@yahoo.com> wrote:
> amy ray and the butchies are listed as performers at michigan this
> year. as an aside, so is dar williams. wish i could go! :)
>
> amy
>
> full schedule:
> http://www.michfest.com/stages/stages.htm
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well, amy ray and the butchies will be performing there, but not as part of
the indigo girls.

elaine

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> didn't the ig perform there last year.  so i guess this means they
> won't be this year?  that's is a bummer.
>
> jean
>
>
> --- amy swenson <amy_indigirl@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > amy ray and the butchies are listed as performers at michigan this
> > year. as an aside, so is dar williams. wish i could go! :)
> >
> > amy
> >
> > full schedule:
> > http://www.michfest.com/stages/stages.htm
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date:         fri, 30 mar 2001 10:54:28 -0600
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hey there fellow listees.  how are you doing?  i was scanning ebay to see
what interesting items i could find and i came across a real gem.  it's too
bad i don't have $350 dollars laying around.  but i thought i would give all
you rich folks a heads up.  there is a red vinyl strange fire for sale.
like i said, bidding is already up to $350 but it is totally worth it.  good
luck to y'all, i wish i had one!

mi rinda

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what lies within us. and when we bring what is within out into the world,
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hey all,

well, since i last wrote, someone emailed me that lazyboy
is about ozilline.  now, i almost always skip it...
anyway, a further note about lazyboy, from amy's tower
diary:

>"johnny rottentail" was recorded live with a royer ribbon
>mic and a neuman 67 tube mic. i used the same mics for
>"lazyboy" but i put down two tracks of guitar and vocals
>and panned them hard right and left.

i know nothing about recording and mixing, certainly not
as much as amy obviously knows from reading that entire
entry.  but, i guess that explains why i think lazyboy
sounds so "weird" to me.  and, i had the nerve to think it
must have been an oversight, when ms. amy intended it to sound
that way.  anyone else have any idea why?  does anyone
else think it sounds weird?  i remember reading something
where amy said she had two vocal tracks because she wanted
the song to sound eerie, but was that about lazyboy?!  any
help?!

peace, melissa

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date:         fri, 30 mar 2001 20:44:19 -0000
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>well, since i last wrote, someone emailed me that lazyboy
is about ozilline.

is there anything in print quoting amy on this?

thanks.

~robbin

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c'mon - if phish fans and pearl jam and dylan fans
have them online minutes after the show (springsteen
fans actually call others during the show)


amy solo show - a duncan cover???

(darn - i do need to make a flyer for that tho...)

setlist? any words? reviews?

listening to stag and loving it...


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on fri, 30 mar 2001, mike reynolds wrote:

> c'mon - if phish fans and pearl jam and dylan fans
> have them online minutes after the show (springsteen
> fans actually call others during the show)


hey!  some phish fans do that too :)


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i went to see suzanne westenhoefer in palm springs last weekend and she talked about the ig at the festival. it was mean, but funny.

apparently there's a big tent behind the stage and everyone always gets ready there together. however last year everyone got kicked out because ig needed the whole tent to themselves. yeah, i know, it doesn't sound like them to me either, so it may have just been a rouge manager or something. or the story is a damn lie.

her joke was (and don't yell, as i think amy is to die for!) "have you seen the indigo girls? they could get ready in a restroom at a denny's!"

she said that she just thought that it was a crummy thing for the ig to do and so she likes to tell everyone about it.

i think that suzanne w is in sf the same time that amy ray is. i wonder if she'll say anything. i'm going to try and go to see sw on friday, since i'm driving up from santa barbara anyway to see amy on saturday.

susan, lesbian concert maven....

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didn't the ig perform there last year.  so i guess this means they
won't be this year?  that's is a bummer.

jean

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  the set (and the songs) were too short, but other than that this was one great
show.

  the butchies opened and they had a very tight sound.  the songs didn't do much
for me and i couldn't really hear the vocals much, but the musicianship was
really good.  (i'm very glad this is amy's backup band as opposed to, say,
1945/three finger cowboy.)
  i could also have done without the straw man posturing of the drummer railing
against some evil man who said she was ugly.  in that stomp and stammer
interview of the band, one member talked about how she felt discriminated
against in an all-girl band where everyone else was straight; but when it came
time for her to form her own band she specifically advertized for a _lesbian_
bass player because _she_ wanted to be comfortable among her own.

  amy's stuff sounded great live.  but what was a pet peeve for me as part of
the indigo girls was down right annoying from her as a solo artist: she sings
with her eyes closed.  the only time she didn't was on the closing cover of
"refugee" and it was great to see her confidently belting out that song.  i
guess with her own material it's that she's so close to it that closing her eyes
makes it more personal.  but, this far down the line, she ought to be able to
look the audience in the eye and sing to it.  the other thing was when she got
to the guitar solo in "laramie", she turned her back to the audience and played
to the drummer.
  but those are minor things.  this was a great glimpse of another side of amy
ray as a performer.  it almost makes you wish this wasn't the one-off project
that it's likely to be.  amy ray and the butchies is a great band with a lot of
potential.

  by the time group sex (fronted by susan tanner) came on, i was too tired to
get into it.  the guitarists were quite good and the set of pop covers was
certainly a crowd-pleaser.  they're raucous and fun-loving, but you have to be
in the mood for it.  best part was seeing chris mcguire back up on stage at the
very end to "cover" ellen james society's "last word is boy".  (she didn't
remember the words to her own song.)

ron

p.s.  i overheard one of my favorite lines ever waiting outside in line just
before the doors opened: "it's 10 minutes to pissin' time."
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stag party
indigo girl amy ray takes a solo trip
by lois maffeo=20

few successful recording artists would, in their
right mind, turn even temporarily away from a
thriving mainstream career to chase down an
indie dream. but amy ray, half of the immensely
popular folk duo the indigo girls, has done just
that with her new solo debut, stag. just about
any major label (and almost certainly the indigo
girls=92 epic) would have been happy to hand ray
a blank check to make a solo album. but she
chose to follow her heart and her instincts by
releasing stag on daemon, the indie label she
founded 11 years ago. recorded with friends
and cronies ranging from veteran tough girl joan
jett to alterna-country belle kelly hogan to the
dyke-rock trio the butchies, stag also lays to rest
any lingering doubts about whether girls with
acoustic guitar can rock. =93when i was younger,=94
says ray, phoning from her home in rural
georgia before setting off on a tour that=92ll bring
her to lilli=92s in somerville next saturday, =93i was
listening to the clash and patti smith. i didn=92t
really fit in musically with them at all, but it was
really inspiring music. so the way i approached
this record was to follow that energy.=94

from the mandolin-based folk punk of =93johnny
rottentail=94 to the nostalgic, straightforward guitar
rock of =93late bloom=94 to =93laramie,=94 a song ray
wrote in response to the murder of matthew shepard, the songs on stag are a=20=
showcase for her gifts
as a songwriter. =93i started playing with [indigo girl] emily [saliers] whe=
n i was 15. but i don=92t think that
i tapped into how to get my feelings out until much further into our career.=
i wrote in a folk way and
moved into writing rock songs. when i first listened to patti smith and neil=
young, i thought, =91that=92s
the way i feel, but i can=92t figure out how to write that [kind of] song.=
=92 it took me a long time to figure it
out.=94

as ray grew as a songwriter, she also came to realize that a solo album migh=
t be something to
consider. =93sometimes i=92d start writing a song and think, =91this isn=92t=
an indigo girls song.=92=a0=94 as her stash
of non-indigo material grew, so did her cynicism and dissatisfaction with th=
e commercial music
business. =93i felt completely burnt out with my association with the major-=
label industry. i just needed to get my music out into the indie world.=94 s=
o after years and years of steady touring in support of successful indigo gi=
rls albums, and a long-time involvement in the day-to-day running of daemon,=
ray found herself ready to begin a new project.

setting off with guitar in hand, she began her =93drop-by=94 recording sessi=
ons in durham, north carolina,
home of the butchies, whose albums are we not femme? and population 1975 (bo=
th on mr. lady) are modern-day diy dyke-punk classics. the band had toured a=
s an opening act with the indigo girlsin 1999 and were eager to work with ra=
y. =93we=92re not the band that a normal promoter person would even think to=
add to an indigo girls bill,=94 admits butchies guitarist kaia wilson, who=20=
also runs her own
mr. lady label. =93but they have a lot of control over what they do, and the=
y want a lot of different                        people opening for them.=
=94

by the end of the tour, ray and the butchies had bonded both on stage, where=
the butchies were invited to blast through joan jett=92s =93do you wanna to=
uch me=94 in encores, and off. =93i don=92t know why that strikes me as so f=
unny,=94 says wilson. =93i guess it=92s just the idea of the indigo girls si=
nging, =91do you wanna touch me there?/where?/there!=92=a0=94 as for ray, he=
r confidence in the butchies was one of thethings that inspired her to begin=
work on her own album. =93when i first started working with the
butchies, we thought we=92d do three songs because we wanted to be realistic=
about our schedules. but it worked so well and they were so well versed, mu=
sically, that we did half the album together.most bands have a specific soun=
d and that=92s their sound. but the butchies were able to morph intodifferen=
t things. it=92s really a tribute to their musicianship that we could work t=
ogether so well.=94

the next stop on ray=92s project itinerary was new york city, where she was=20=
joined in the studio by joan jett, luscious jackson drummer kate schellenbac=
h, and breeders bassist josephine wiggs. the foursome had met in 1998 on a o=
ne-off tour ray and saliers had put together called =93the suffragette sessi=
ons.=94 =93we sort of created this band with 12 women and went on tour in cl=
ubs. it was
incredible fun. i=92d have these jams with joan and kate and josephine as a=20=
way to get out of the normal way of playing i had in indigo girls.=94

in new york, ray recorded =93hey castrator,=94 a darkly sexual rocker with a=
brassy vocal coda by jett,                        who joined the recording=20=
session after her rehearsals for the broadway production of the rocky horror=
picture show. jett had been a big influence on the adolescent ray: =93she w=
as kinda that bridge between all kinds of people in high school =97 the foot=
ball team, the girl jocks, the                        cheerleaders=a0.=a0.=
=a0. everybody loved her. it was such an adventure to work with her.=94

returning to the south, ray finished her album with songs she recorded with=20=
atlanta garage-popsters the rock-a-teens, birmingham=92s lushly melodic 1945=
, and the droll south carolina singer/songwriter danielle howle, all of whom=
have recorded for daemon. working with such a variety of musicians could ha=
ve resulted in a collection of recordings that don=92t cohere, but the focus=
and tenor of ray=92s songwriting remained consistent throughout the scatter=
ed stag sessions =97 in large part because of                        the con=
sistency of her personal and political beliefs. throughout her indigo girl c=
areer, ray has been                        as open in her support of ethical=
business practices and philanthropy as she has about her sexual orientation=
. and as an out lesbian, she=92s been an icon to thousands of women and men=20=
who have searched for gay role models among rock=92s major-label stars and c=
ome up largely empty-handed.

the political outlook on stag is always in tune with ray=92s personal integr=
ity. in =93laramie,=94 the song she
wrote in response to the gay-bashing murder of matthew shepard, she focuses=20=
on the nature of hate crimes rather than the event itself. =93on a general l=
evel, i empathized with someone getting killed in that way. as a gay person,=
that really touched me. i read a lot of articles about it, and the most int=
eresting one i read was about classism, and how his murder was a symbol of s=
omething wrong in a community.=94 in the song, ray rails against the prejudi=
ced attitudes that are fostered in small-town
america by groups like the christian coalition. =93it=92s over for me,=94 sh=
e says, referring to the intolerance
that she believes helped foster the crime. =93i=92m going to stand up to it.=
=94

ray=92s anger also comes across in =93lucystoners,=94 which is about the mal=
e hegemony that holds sway both in mainstream music and in the media. taking=
a shot at rolling stone editor jann wenner, the song sums up her view of th=
e prevailing atmosphere in the music industry: =93a demographic-based disgra=
ce/and a stupid, secret white-boy handshake/that we=92ll never be a part of.=
=94 but ray remains aware that, as an indigo girl, she=92s part of that worl=
d. =93i definitely recognize the hypocrisy of constantly touting anti-corpor=
ate philosophies and being on a major label. but i=92ve been able to use my=20=
partnership in the indigo girls to benefit the things that i=92m interested=20=
in benefitting. rolling stone                        happens to be a symbol=20=
in the rock world and in the press world of a form of sexism that people lik=
e me have to deal with all the time. a lot of people would like to believe t=
hat gay people are automatically politically correct, but jann wenner is par=
t of an old-boys network, and i don=92t think it has anyt
hing to do with his sexuality. it=92s just sort of a happy accident that i w=
as commenting on an industry and i happened to choose jann wenner as the sym=
bol.=94

elsewhere on stag, the songwriting is more reflective, as ray deals with iss=
ues related to her childhood and the path of self-discovery she has made thr=
ough both her music and her struggles with sexual identity. songs like =93la=
te bloom=94 and =93measure of me=94 look back to a time in her life when she=
was trying to understand the tomboy impulses that were guiding her behavior=
=93the best time of my life was when i was pre-pubescent. it felt like i co=
uld do anything, like i had some autonomy in the
world. when your sexuality kicks in, a weird thing happens =97 your parents=20=
treat you differently, your
friends treat you differently, and there are all these complications. i had=20=
a very confusing time in my 20s, when i went through a lot of struggles with=
my sexuality. i think in these songs i=92m just yearning for a simpler time=
.=94

she may have found some version of that in her partnership with the butchies=
, who are joining her on
her current east coast tour. they=92re the opening act, and they=92ll also j=
oin ray for her all-electric set.but is she nervous about what staunch indig=
o girl fans will think of her in this quasi-punk incarnation? =93there will=20=
be some indigo fans that won=92t like it at all, but that=92s fine. our crow=
d is pretty open. a lot of times our opening bands will be like the butchies=
. so our audience is used to that. i don=92t think they=92ll be all that sur=
prised at what i=92m doing=94

amy ray and the butchies perform next saturday, april 7 at lilli=92s. the sh=
ow is officially sold out.

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hey all,

i have two (possibly 3) extra tickets for amy's philly show on the 5th at
the northstar.

one catch to the offer- i have yet to pick them up and have a night class
that night. (basically i will have to meet you outside around 7:30)

as an added bonus, i'm willing to barter for the tickets...my boot
collection is quite small...so if anyone is looking to copy some cd's...i'm
game to trade tickets for cd's.

jen

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please contact me.

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at 04:56 pm 3/30/01, ron mcbay wrote:
>   the set (and the songs) were too short, but other than that this was
> one great
>show.

ron - reminds me of seeing bragg in nyc 12/30/00 - too short first show -
had to leave to catch train back second show...</obscure reference only
mr.mcbay may understand...>

>   by the time group sex (fronted by susan tanner) came on, i was too tired to
>get into it.  the guitarists were quite good and the set of pop covers was
>certainly a crowd-pleaser.  they're raucous and fun-loving, but you have to be
>in the mood for it.  best part was seeing chris mcguire back up on stage
>at the
>very end to "cover" ellen james society's "last word is boy".  (she didn't
>remember the words to her own song.)


...ejs revival! augh reason 43,168 why atlanta has a better scene than
maine. (besides snow storms and missing ani's shows this weekend) did any
one tape group sex?(damn that sounds perverted!)

thanks ron!

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hi everyone! i am hoping to go to the boston instore
and get a couple of things autographed. no issues or
anything there. however i am a member of an
organization(the chromosome 18 research and registry
society http://www.chromosome18.org) that is based in
san antonio tx. it is going to be having an auction
this summer to try to raise money for research into
allevating  chromosomal causes of mental retardation
(which can be quite severe) anyway i thought it might
be a good idea to buy a cd with amy's music on it
(either ig or stag) and have her autograph it and
donate it to be auctioned...my question is which cd
should i buy? ig or stag? which would you pay the most
money for at an auction? an ig cd with one of the
girls ' autographs or stag with amy's autograph on it?
i'm leaning towards the girl's cd as i am a very poor
college student and i want a copy of stag for
myself...any suggestions? got to run.thanks in
advance!
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    dr. laura's show cancelled

friday, march 30, 2001
the boycott organized by gay activists likely contributed to the demise of
the notoriously homophobic doctor's television show.

dr. laura's show cancelled


dr. laura schlessinger taped the final episode of her controversial
television show yesterday, paramount officials say. seven months after its
premier, the plug has been pulled on the talk show that spawned protests,
advertiser boycotts and even a web site dedicated to its demise because of
the host's habit of speaking harshly about gays and lesbians, according to a
reuters report. dr. laura frequently referred to homosexuality as "deviant"
and a "biological error." the report quoted a statement from schlessinger
saying, "i believe it could have earned a substantial audience in time, but
the television advertiser boycott precluded that." in a statement released
friday, joan garry, of the gay and lesbian alliance against defamation said,
"this is a culmination of glaad's three years of strategic education and
advocacy work. "in coalition with thousands of local activists from across
the country, we have held laura schlessinger accountable for her defamation
of our community," garry added. "and we've sent a strong message that we are
no longer an easy target for prejudice. glaad hopes the cancellation of 'dr.
laura' will make media corporations think twice about giving a platform to
someone who promotes derision and exclusion. such decisions will never go
unchallenged."

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<br>and a "biological error." the report quoted a statement from schlessinger
<br>saying, "i believe it could have earned a substantial audience in time, but
<br>the television advertiser boycott precluded that." in a statement released
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<br>"this is a culmination of glaad's three years of strategic education and
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<br>the country, we have held laura schlessinger accountable for her defamation
<br>of our community," garry added. "and we've sent a strong message that we are
<br>no longer an easy target for prejudice. glaad hopes the cancellation of 'dr.
<br>laura' will make media corporations think twice about giving a platform to
<br>someone who promotes derision and exclusion. such decisions will never go
<br>unchallenged."
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i just think it's really funny that on her radio show, they often play a =
clip of shame on you....this homophobe playing a song by lesbians and =
about lesbians...haha
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  dr. laura's show cancelled=20

  friday, march 30, 2001=20
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  dr. laura's show cancelled=20


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  friday, joan garry, of the gay and lesbian alliance against defamation =
said,=20
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and=20
  advocacy work. "in coalition with thousands of local activists from =
across=20
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defamation=20
  of our community," garry added. "and we've sent a strong message that =
we are=20
  no longer an easy target for prejudice. glaad hopes the cancellation =
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i've only seen her show a handful of times so i could've missed some
signficant event or maybe i just caught a few of her least controversial
shows ...

i can't help but wonder in the back of my mind if dr. laura's stance on
homosexual relationships was any reason to boycott her.  they were her
opinions.  i haven't seen or read about her telling someone directly that
homosexuality is "wrong" (actually using the word "wrong").  she believes it
is a biological error, which from a purely scientific standpoint is logical.
any society devoting a significant percentage of its population to
homosexual lifestyles will grow at a slower rate than one that devotes 100%
of its population to heterosexual lifestyles.  this isn't always a bad thing
(and surely isn't a bad thing in modern society as the earth's population is
already past the levels of long term sustinance), but from a simple biologic
standpoint it could be disasterous to an emerging species, for example.

i spend a fair portion of my time interating with gays and lesbians.  we
spend time together socially, hang out and go to performances, etc.  i have
several lesbian friends and i've listened to some of their points about dr.
laura from time to time.  from all i've heard i still can't understand why
she's been under such fire from glaad and other organizations.  all of my
friends agree that these are just her opinions.

has she come right out and said "homosexuality is wrong"?  has she said
specifically that the heterosexual community should boycott gay/lesbians or
their right to enjoy all the freedoms we do?

i would be very surprised to learn that she has.

>garry added. "and we've sent a strong message that we are
>no longer an easy target for prejudice.

just because someone holds a different viewpoint it does not automatically
equate to them being prejudiced.

>glaad hopes the
>cancellation of 'dr. laura' will make media corporations think
>twice about giving a platform to someone who promotes
>derision and exclusion.

"derision and exclusion"?  i have never heard dr. laura suggest that anyone
involved in a gay/lesbian lifestyle be denied anything.  she's only stated
that *she* believes it is wrong.

>such decisions will never go unchallenged."

:(  i will defend to my death your right to say such things.  in that same
breath i've got news for the homosexual community.  finding across-the-board
tolerance from the heterosexual community is not very difficult.  but
finding across-the-board acceptance from the heterosexual community is
extremely difficult.  when pressed, most heterosexual people will state
categorically that they personally believe homosexuality is wrong.  while
they tolerate it, because they subscribe to the ideals of individual
liberties and freedoms, it's not something they themselves would ever get
involved in because at their core they feel it is wrong.  likewsie, members
of the homosexual community feel the same way in the reverse.

- rick c. hodgin

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after ejs broke up, does anyone know what chris mcguire did?  i know cooper
did viva la diva, but did chris hang out in the indie music world?  i think
she has one of the coolest voices....

>    by the time group sex (fronted by susan tanner) came on, i was too
tired to
>  get into it.  the guitarists were quite good and the set of pop covers
was
>  certainly a crowd-pleaser.  they're raucous and fun-loving, but you have
to be
>  in the mood for it.  best part was seeing chris mcguire back up on stage
at the
>  very end to "cover" ellen james society's "last word is boy".  (she
didn't
>  remember the words to her own song.)

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hey gang...

happy last-day-in-march, philly folks. isn't april going to be a blast -
what with amy coming to town next week and everything?
and to cap off the month and make it the swingingest, hippest, most
happening april of them all, beth amsel is playing a concert at our house.
beth amsel!!! yes, on april 21st you'll get a chance to spend an intimate
evening with this most delighful of songstressesseseeseseess.
sublime contemporary folk with deliciously caramel vocals, kids. cancel your
plans, you _have_ to be there.

not only will there be this to-die-for wonderful music - you'll also get the
rare chance to hang with one of this list's most intelligent, attractive,
funny, in-demand members.
and as well as mandy, i'll be there...

and what's more (as if you needed any more persuading), beth is only two
degrees of separation from the indigo girls (gotta stay on-topic). yes, you
can talk to someone who's played with someone who's played with the indigo
girls. just how rad is that?

more info on beth at http://www.bethamsel.com
and more info on the concert at http://concerts.sixthst.com
or just email me...

we now return you to your dr. laura discussion list...

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i actually like amy's voice on lazyboy, its the clunky chord changes that annoy
me - especially if you're listening to it on a walkman, it really screeches
then!

i really like the rest of the album - especially "on your honor" "laramie" and
"hey castrator".

fare thee well,
marion (aka mollyig)
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nis <mvirago@yahoo.com> on 30/03/2001 08:48:42 pm
i know nothing about recording and mixing, certainly not
as much as amy obviously knows from reading that entire
entry.  but, i guess that explains why i think lazyboy
sounds so "weird" to me.  and, i had the nerve to think it
must have been an oversight, when ms. amy intended it to sound
that way.  anyone else have any idea why?  does anyone
else think it sounds weird?  i remember reading something
where amy said she had two vocal tracks because she wanted
the song to sound eerie, but was that about lazyboy?!  any
help?!

peace, melissa

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mary fortune express,

right when they had major label interest, the band broke up.
chris made an ep demo too

i dont have the mfe cd, but (i dont even know if the label exists anymore)
but i know if they do - they'll sell cheaply...


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>from: denise draper <jingles31@excite.com>
>

>after ejs broke up, does anyone know what chris mcguire did?  i know cooper
>did viva la diva, but did chris hang out in the indie music world?  i think
>she has one of the coolest voices....


  i think immediately after ejs broke up, the remaining members became clinch,
but that didn't last long.  their appearance at the '93(?) march on washington
was actually as clinch.  then she played solo acoustic for a bit and then formed
another rock band called mary fortune express.  after mfe broke up, she seemed
to fade from the local performing scene.
  i think there was a demo tape from her solo acoustic phase; and mfe put out an
excellent cd called "the immortality box".  there were some really good songs
that got lost in the shuffle and never got officially recorded.  one of my
favorite lyrics ever is from "(where is the) world we know" which clinch
performed at mow.  it was a post-"survivors parade" ejs song and it didn't
survive into mfe.  a lot of good material only exists on boots, i'm afraid.

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> anyway...those of you that weren't there missed a great show that
> was well worth sitting in the rain for!!!!!!
amen to that! the entire concert was so unbelievable! too many details
still floating around in my head to describe coherently at the moment,
but i do have set list info for y'all-
the butchies:
intro (entirely instrumental)
more rock
disco
galaxy
forget
wedding disaster
insult
it's over
madame
anything anthology

i wish i knew their music better. they exude such energy, cleary devoted
to their fans, very sweet...
next came amy:

johnny rottentail
lucy stoners
blackheart today (joined by kelly hogan)
hey castrator
measure of me
laramie
ever fall in love
lazy boy
mountains of glory
on your honor
then, foregoing the typical encore, amy said she wanted to play a few
more songs w/some other people, and was joined by 1945, for late bloom.
then, 1945 played one of their own songs, which amy explained that she'd
specifically requested (i don't know if she meant that song or just for
them to perform something). then, 1945 departed, and the butchies came
back on stage, and they closed w/refuge. after the last notes faded, amy
just sorta gazed out at the crowd, and said, 'that's all we know! hope
you'll stick around for the party' (or something to that effect).
group sex was so much fun! those women give off such an energetic, sexy
yet playful vibe! when amy and emily joined them onstage at various
points, it was apparent that they were enjoying the band's performance
as much as the audience! gs opened w/my sharona, brought out emily to
accompany them on 'school's out', emily played bazouki, amy played
mandolin on 'maggie mae', big jam session w/all the musicians who'd been
on stage at some point during the evening for 'rock and roll all night'.

i think the different feeling at this show as compared to an ig show can
best be summed up w/the observation made a day after the concert had
ended- instead of issuing the trademark 'thanks, y'all' or 'y'all are
the best', amy was still extremely gracious and humble as ever, but said
very little after she finished playing a song, maybe uttering  'thanks
for bein' so sweet' or something to that effect at the conclusion of one
or two songs. mostly, she just deflected the crowd's cheers and applause
by giving thanks to all the folks who'd been supportive of her solo
effort- the daemon staff- andrea, stacey, carla; emily; the butchies and
all the bands who played on the album, and her personal assistant, who's
name i can't recall.
amyray, it was definitely not and indigo girls show, i think amy very
successfully put together an event w/its own distinct character, which i
hope everybody else enjoyed as much as i did!
still rockin'-
marian

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i remember chris mcguire doing a short stint with a band called "clinch"
that rocked even more than mary fortune express.  wish i had booted some of
those shows!

| after ejs broke up, does anyone know what chris mcguire did?  i know
cooper
| did viva la diva, but did chris hang out in the indie music world?  i
think
| she has one of the coolest voices....

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