lifeblood: listlogs: 2001-06d


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date:         fri, 22 jun 2001 12:00:08 edt
reply-to:     indigokare@aol.com
sender:       indigo girls mailing list <indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org>
from:         "karen r." <indigokare@aol.com>
subject:      fillmore tickets needed
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hey,

does anyone have any extra fillmore tix?  i have a friend who really needs 3.
please e-mail me privately if you can help.

thanks.

:-) karen

http://geocities.com/karen_rosenblum
http://japantravels.diaryland.com

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date:         fri, 22 jun 2001 11:02:24 -0500
reply-to:     "kovacs, mirinda" <mirinda.kovacs@westgroup.com>
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from:         "kovacs, mirinda" <mirinda.kovacs@westgroup.com>
subject:      bummed - nigc
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okay, so i found out too late that dar williams was opening for shawn
mullins last night at the mn zoo!  i am so depressed.  i have really gotten
into her music lately and would have loved to see her live.  so, do any of
you out there have any dar boots?

mi rinda

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date:         fri, 22 jun 2001 11:04:44 -0500
reply-to:     "kovacs, mirinda" <mirinda.kovacs@westgroup.com>
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from:         "kovacs, mirinda" <mirinda.kovacs@westgroup.com>
subject:      ig on napster
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yesterday when i got home i finally signed up for a napster account.  and i
did a search for indigo girls, ig, indigo, girls, amy ray, emily sailers --
pretty much anything i could think of.  i got no results.  anyone have any
idea why i can't seem to get anything?

mi rinda

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date:         fri, 22 jun 2001 12:58:21 -0400
reply-to:     neil@andineil.com
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from:         "neil :o)" <neil@andineil.com>
subject:      re: ig on napster
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<<yesterday when i got home i finally signed up for a napster account.  and
i did a search for indigo girls, ig, indigo, girls, amy ray, emily
sailers -- pretty much anything i could think of.  i got no results.  anyone
have any idea why i can't seem to get anything?>>

umm... you remember that big lawsuit and all the assorted fuss that went on
a while back??
anytime you search for 'indigo girls' the little napster gnomes say "nope,
sorry, that's copyrighted material, that is" and kill your search. same with
"galileo" and all the song titles.

what to do? you could be creative and search for part of words, but really
you best bet is to get on over to the lawyer-proof gnutella network and
download bearshare http://www.bearshare.com/ instead (but don't install the
extra spyware programs they want you to...).

neil
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date:         fri, 22 jun 2001 10:13:50 -0700
reply-to:     mike reynolds <michael_reynolds@yahoo.com>
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from:         mike reynolds <michael_reynolds@yahoo.com>
subject:      re: ig on napster
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try winmx - you should easily find everything you are
lookingg for - no spy ware programs either...

(neily, do you want to trade via ftp sites? lemme
know.)

i could throw a few shows on my computer if needed. so
y'all could grab them.


anyone need an unemployed web geek?

mike r.

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date:         sat, 23 jun 2001 03:14:35 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
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from:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
subject:      amy quoted in sf chronicle
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hey folks,

this was forwarded to me (thanks helen :) - amy is quoted in
today's sf chronicle.  it's a q&a thing - the question is
"what's the worst thing your child could do?", and amy's
answer is "vote republican."

the full article is here (note, url should be all on one
line:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/06/22/wb153708.dtl

cheers,
sherlyn
=-=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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    and your task is to receive it..."
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date:         fri, 22 jun 2001 15:44:20 -0500
reply-to:     barbara bordner <ritesofpassage9@webtv.net>
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from:         barbara bordner <ritesofpassage9@webtv.net>
subject:      re: amy quoted in sf chronicle
x-to:         sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>
in-reply-to:  sherlyn koo <sherlyn@fl.net.au>'s message of sat, 23 jun 2001
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lol all right there ya go!!  (worst thing your child could do? amy says
"vote republican.")
i could say that just as well  for any politician that has anything to
do with supporting  big corporations and their owners.

that pretty well qualifies almost if not all of them,

peace
barb

"for wbai fm (and all the pacifica radio stations,) the studios of the
banned, and the fired, from the studios of
all listeners" amy goodman, host of democracy now! who is now off the
air in new york city.

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date:         fri, 22 jun 2001 20:33:30 -0700
reply-to:     pamela shaw <pamelasparkle@yahoo.com>
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from:         pamela shaw <pamelasparkle@yahoo.com>
subject:      bootleg collection
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i have a large (80+ tapes) collection of indigo girls
concerts on tape dating from 1986-1996.  i am moving cross
country and have decided that i have to let them go :( .  i
would like to find a good home for them.  i am not looking
to make any profit from them- i want someone to take them
who will listen to them and love them.  several tapes are
rare footage, and several others are 1st generation.

i am moving in a week, so i want to do this quickly.  if
you are interested, write to me at pamelasparkle@yahoo.com.

thanks-

pamela

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date:         fri, 22 jun 2001 21:44:43 -0700
reply-to:     tracy & da swampdogs <clumber@bigfoot.com>
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from:         tracy & da swampdogs <clumber@bigfoot.com>
subject:      re: amy quoted in sf chronicle
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i must share.  about 10 years ago i decided there was no more point in
trying to be closeted.  for one thing i could never keep the pronouns
straight (so to speak), and for another i am a shitty liar.  so, i had to
tell my dad.  i was 22 at the time, so it wasn't like he was going to kick
me out or anything... but to this very day there is nothing i could ever do
that would be worse than disappointing my dad.  i fully expected to be
disowned,  i fully expected that sharing this information about myself
would disappoint him more deeply than anything i could imagine.  i have
always adored my dad.  but i can't lie, and i loved him too much to keep
something from him.

so i asked to meet him for lunch one day.  for the couple days preceding i
couldn't eat anything or keep anything down.  i was going to lose my daddy
forever, i knew it.

i met him for lunch.  we sat at the table, and sweating profusely, shaking,
and nearly mute with welling tears i told him.  "dad, i have to tell you
this.  i am sorry.  i am gay."

he looked deeply into my eyes and absorbed the information for a few
moments silently.  i waited for him to tell me never to contact him again.

but instead he said, and this is an exact quote, "thank gawd.  i thought
you were going to tell me you were a republican."

he's been wonderful and supportive ever since.  and inclusive of my partner
of 6 years.  (well almost 6... six in august.  close enough.)

tracy
olympia, wash


at 1014 6/22/2001, you wrote:
>hey folks,
>
>this was forwarded to me (thanks helen :) - amy is quoted in
>today's sf chronicle.  it's a q&a thing - the question is
>"what's the worst thing your child could do?", and amy's
>answer is "vote republican."
>
>the full article is here (note, url should be all on one
>line:
>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/06/22/wb153708.dtl
>
>cheers,
>sherlyn
>=-=-=-=-= sherlyn koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>    "see your life as a gift from the great unknown,
>     and your task is to receive it..."
>                         - mary chapin carpenter
>
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date:         sat, 23 jun 2001 10:06:51 -0700
reply-to:     pamela shaw <pamelasparkle@yahoo.com>
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from:         pamela shaw <pamelasparkle@yahoo.com>
subject:      ig boots - gone!
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thanks to everyone who (so quickly) responded to my search
for a good home for my ig bootleg collection.  a new owner
has been set up, so please do not send requests for the
collection to my email address anymore.

i used to be very active on the list (sparkle for those of
you who remember me)- and am very thankful that it is still
here for the fans.  i subscribed only for the purpose of
giving a new home to my boots, and will unsubscribe soon.
perhaps when i get set up in boston i will sign on again.
in the meantime, anyone who knows me from yours ago and
would like to chat, or anyone who is in the boston area and
has good advice on the music scene there- please feel free
to email me.  i move east (i am currently in los angeles)
in 1 week, so if i do not respond for a while it is because
i am neck-deep in boxes.

thanks again for all the interest.  i am satisfied that the
new owner of my collection will love it as i have for many
years.

ciao-


pamela
( aka sparkle)

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date:         sat, 23 jun 2001 16:20:19 -0500
reply-to:     mandy clements <indie4me@home.com>
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from:         mandy clements <indie4me@home.com>
subject:      nigc-the butchies on gay.com
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there is a cute little interview questionaire thinga-majiger on gay.com =
with the butchies it made laugh hysterically!


http://content.gay.com/channels/arts/butchies_qsat.htmly.com=20

check it out! take care y'all!

mandy

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date:         sat, 23 jun 2001 20:00:02 -0400
reply-to:     brian clary <brianclary@mindspring.com>
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from:         brian clary <brianclary@mindspring.com>
subject:      power of two mp3
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a lot of people have requested a version of this mp3, and i finally have a
nice version of it.  this is the 'rockin' version of mp3 (with electric
guitars, drums, keyboards, etc.) from the suffragette sessions tour.  this
is from the 8.28.98 concert in minneapolis.  more mp3s from that show will
be posted soon, including the 'soon be to nothing' mp3 with soc by jane
siberry.

the address is http://brianclary.com and go to the downloads section.  you
will see this mp3 in the 'regular downloads' section.

enjoy :)

brian
http://brianclary.com
brian@brianclary.com

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date:         sat, 23 jun 2001 23:00:27 -0400
reply-to:     mike reynolds <michael_reynolds@yahoo.com>
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from:         mike reynolds <michael_reynolds@yahoo.com>
subject:      amy ray 4/8/01 - mp3 boot offer - download tonight tomorrow am,
              whatever
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pick a file sharing program (winmx works great)

(napster doesnt seem to want me to share anything, yet i just made these
files.)

amy ray and the butchies - 13 files - ar040801t1.mp3 - ar0408001t13.mp3

(analog stereo recorder -> audio cd burner -> computer cdr copy -> mp3)

i'm on a cable line - i dunno the setlist - that should not be too hard to
figure out

so try a search for ar040801 - it should come up in winmx - if you d/l,
please do me a favor and post so others can grab it or leave your
connection open

this is a bit more cost effective than sending cdr's through the mail - i
am on a really tight budget (anyone need a website built? will code for
rent money 8-)

hopefully this works to distribute - please do not sell an audio cd of
these files on ebay. i will leave negative feedback.

if some one could hook me up with the mp3's of the live amy promo, a full
rent bootleg (!!) or well, good karma, i'd be grateful.

i'll probably shut winmx down 9-10 am tomorrow. total file size of show is
49 megs - if some one wants to put it on a website - feel free - just give
source info.
peace-
mike r.

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date:         sun, 24 jun 2001 03:09:58 -0400
reply-to:     derek moulaison <dmoulaison@hotmail.com>
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from:         derek moulaison <dmoulaison@hotmail.com>
subject:      2 tickets for la show available
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hey all. i have 2 tickets for the la show at the sun theatre in anaheim, ca
on saturday, july 28 that i can't use.

they are in the first section general admission, which i understand is right
down in front of the stage.

i'm selling them at face value (including the ticketbastard charge) of $48
($40 + $8 tb fee).

let me know if you're interested.

derek  :-)
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date:         sun, 24 jun 2001 12:12:58 -0500
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if so, did you see the me segment? i was going to watch it but forgot it
was on. what was it about me that they were describing was so
secret (as was described in their previews?)

peace
barb

"for wbai fm (and all the pacifica radio stations,) the studios of the
banned, and the fired, from the studios of
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date:         sun, 24 jun 2001 13:25:39 -0400
reply-to:     mike reynolds <michael_reynolds@yahoo.com>
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subject:      amy boot
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uggh - my shared files are so expansive in winmx that people time out
waiting for my files.

most free web space providers limit file sizes to 5 megs

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/amyboot2001/

should work, but somehow doesnt - if anyone knows a better solution - let
me know

my winmx will be on this pm
mjr

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date:         sun, 24 jun 2001 18:15:14 -0400
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subject:      working site for 4/8/01 amy mp3's
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http://briefcase.yahoo.com/amyboot2001

there are five additional mp3's i will post somewhere soon, if you like the
ones there, let me know!

cover art, etc, will follow

peace-
mike r.

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date:         sun, 24 jun 2001 23:32:40 -0400
reply-to:     jenn letourneau <jennylgl@home.com>
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from:         jenn letourneau <jennylgl@home.com>
subject:      re: ig on napster
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try audio galaxy... it works a little differently, but for some reason, you
can still do searches get lots of results...

www.audiogalaxy.com

i haven't had any luck with napster since they started with all of that
legal stuff...

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[mailto:indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org]on behalf of kovacs, mirinda
sent: friday, june 22, 2001 12:05 pm
to: indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org
subject: ig on napster


yesterday when i got home i finally signed up for a napster account.  and i
did a search for indigo girls, ig, indigo, girls, amy ray, emily sailers --
pretty much anything i could think of.  i got no results.  anyone have any
idea why i can't seem to get anything?

mi rinda

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june 25 (78)
ablipman@asa.upenn.edu (andi)
"the prize is always worth the rocky ride

june 25, 1974
chee (tcheehill@hotmail.com)
"lick my legs, i'm on fire"

june 26 ('77)
ae-johnson@nwu.edu (amanda johnson)

june 27
gflame@nwu.edu (greg flamer)
(i thought amy's birthday was in april...silly me! ;)

june 27
lauren (jeunechou@aol.com)
"i was a fuzzy brown bear cub"

june 28
karrie moore (guitarig@aol.com)
"baby its all in your hands you gotta learn to respect what you don't
understand"

june 29
grrrlies@aol.com (celeste)

june 29, 1985
grrrly4354@aol.com (celeste kennelly)
"lookin' up at the stars...'moo'."

june 30 ('69)
zkaa76a@prodigy.com (donna schwartz)

june 30 ('78)
tricia juettemeyer <tjuett@hotmail.com>

july
july 1
kiersten kress <kresskie@pilot.msu.edu>
"get me to montana and my guitar - i'm happy!"


happy birthday all!  yay andi! *grins*

love and devotion,
audra
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date:         mon, 25 jun 2001 10:12:37 -0500
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beware audiogalaxy's spyware.  removing it can mess with your winsock
as well.

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at 11:12 am 6/25/01, amanda wrote:
>beware audiogalaxy's spyware.  removing it can mess with your winsock
>as well.
go to www.lavasoft.de and download ad-aware.

unemployed, yet busy.
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date:         mon, 25 jun 2001 12:53:33 -0600
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have we already discussed how annoying the bio on vh1.com is?

http://artists.vh1.com/vh1/artists/ai_bio.jhtml?ai_id=1087

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okay, where is "the water is wide" on rop?  both of mine must be defective.
:p
-mi rinda

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have we already discussed how annoying the bio on vh1.com is?

http://artists.vh1.com/vh1/artists/ai_bio.jhtml?ai_id=1087

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hi,

does anyone have one (just one) extra ticket for the saratoga show on the
26th?  i havea ticket for the 25th and still need one for the 26th.

if you can help, please let me know.

:-) karen

http://geocities.com/karen_rosenblum
http://japantravels.diaryland.com

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yeah, no doubt. what a load of garbage. personally, i think n*i*s* is a better
than rop anyday. granted, rop has some great stuff (what ig album doesn't?)
and ghost and romeo are two of my all time faves, but it's a mix of stellar and
average fare for the ig, whereas n*i*s is fabulous throughout. oh well,
everyone's
got their own opinion. :)

at 02:00 pm 6/25/2001 -0500, kovacs, mirinda wrote:
>okay, where is "the water is wide" on rop?  both of mine must be defective.
>:p
>-mi rinda
>
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>
>
>have we already discussed how annoying the bio on vh1.com is?
>
>http://artists.vh1.com/vh1/artists/ai_bio.jhtml?ai_id=1087
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   the  <a href="http://www.therecipe.com">recipe</a>  family cookout this
year has been added to the brew glass fest
@  <a href="http://www.sunshinedreams.com">sunshine daydreams campround</a>
in terra alta west virginia on 8/24 -26
other acts include donna the buffalo ,leftover salmon,emma gibbs,tony
trischka
rice and rowen,railroad earth and the john cowen band .the recipe will close
the show on sat w 2 sets and then will play again on sunday.
free tik to the 1st to respond!! to javaband @aol.com
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        dude. i am peeved. what damage needed to be repaired after n*i*s?
i know it's not everybody's favorite (though it is mine) but it's hardly
the mary chapin carpenter "a place in the world" phenomenon. note the
absence of hyphen. anyway. i think this is my favorite part:

> shaming of the sun and come on now social broke no new ground, but the
> duo's songwriting remains as dependable as ever.

        gee, i think my copy of rop must be missing all those punk songs
and banjos and native american backing vocals. <eyeroll>

        mandy,
        who actually thinks emily's songwriting has been kind of a letdown
on the last two albums but can save that thread for later

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at 04:32 pm 6/25/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>         dude. i am peeved. what damage needed to be repaired after n*i*s?
>i know it's not everybody's favorite (though it is mine) but it's hardly
>the mary chapin carpenter "a place in the world" phenomenon. note the
>absence of hyphen. anyway. i think this is my favorite part:
>
> > shaming of the sun and come on now social broke no new ground, but the
> > duo's songwriting remains as dependable as ever.
>
>         gee, i think my copy of rop must be missing all those punk songs
>and banjos and native american backing vocals. <eyeroll

totally. that last part was the final ridiculous slap, and proved this reviewer
had no idea what they were talking about. cons in particular was a revelation.

>        mandy,
>         who actually thinks emily's songwriting has been kind of a letdown
>on the last two albums but can save that thread for later

well...yes and no. i've heard that from other people, including reviewers,
but i don't completely agree. although there were a few just "average"
songs in those two albums (cold beer and remote control, andy, it's alright)
and granted, emily hasn't shaken my foundations in a prince of darkness,
ghost, or watershed way in a while, there's still some amazing stuff
that i adore on those two albums. i can never get enough of leeds,
trouble is a big favorite (and a really different style for her) and i just
love soon to be nothing. we are together (did she write that? i
thought it was a remake, but lifeblood lists emily as words & music),
philosophy of loss, caramia, get out the map and everything in its own
time are also all wonderful.

and the same could be suggested of amy's songwriting on sos - although
she batted a thousand for me on cons (everything is stellar except for the
average "compromise", and "faye tucker" and "oziline" knocked my
socks off) there were three songs on sos that i actively dislike and will
often skip over - don't give that girl a gun, scooter boys, and hey kind
friend.

hey, why save for later what you can endlessly analyze today. :)

jenna
wherever@qwest.net

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hey folks,

this is forwarded from the news-only list - please direct any replies to
the original sender at jmhodgman@mediaone.net and not to me, thanks.

-sherlyn

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from: jackie hodgman <jmhodgman@mediaone.net>
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date: monday, june 25, 2001, 7:51:52 pm
subject: [ig-news] 2 discounted nff tix

i bought two 2-day passes to newport at the special rate being offered early
on...but now i've decided to go see ig in northampton on saturday instead. so,
i have two saturday nff tix to sell - $83.25 total for both tickets. if anyone
knows anybody who wants to buy saturday tix, please send them my way...the
ticketmonster cost is now $111 for 2 one-day tickets so they can save almost
30 bucks!

thanks!
jackie

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just adding one more voice to the "nis is my absolute favorite" ranks. i
was about to complain that we haven't been hearing the great acoustic
songs like "watershed" and "you and me of the 10,000 wars" in recent
years, but  this post reminded me of "andy" and "hey kind friend".

respectfully disagreeing as to the merits of the latter 2 gems,

staycie

wherever wrote:
>
> at 04:32 pm 6/25/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >         dude. i am peeved. what damage needed to be repaired after n*i*s?
> >i know it's not everybody's favorite (though it is mine) but it's hardly
> >the mary chapin carpenter "a place in the world" phenomenon. note the
> >absence of hyphen. anyway. i think this is my favorite part:
> >
> > > shaming of the sun and come on now social broke no new ground, but the
> > > duo's songwriting remains as dependable as ever.
> >
> >         gee, i think my copy of rop must be missing all those punk songs
> >and banjos and native american backing vocals. <eyeroll
>
> totally. that last part was the final ridiculous slap, and proved this reviewer
> had no idea what they were talking about. cons in particular was a revelation.
>
> >        mandy,
> >         who actually thinks emily's songwriting has been kind of a letdown
> >on the last two albums but can save that thread for later
>
> well...yes and no. i've heard that from other people, including reviewers,
> but i don't completely agree. although there were a few just "average"
> songs in those two albums (cold beer and remote control, andy, it's alright)
> and granted, emily hasn't shaken my foundations in a prince of darkness,
> ghost, or watershed way in a while, there's still some amazing stuff
> that i adore on those two albums. i can never get enough of leeds,
> trouble is a big favorite (and a really different style for her) and i just
> love soon to be nothing. we are together (did she write that? i
> thought it was a remake, but lifeblood lists emily as words & music),
> philosophy of loss, caramia, get out the map and everything in its own
> time are also all wonderful.
>
> and the same could be suggested of amy's songwriting on sos - although
> she batted a thousand for me on cons (everything is stellar except for the
> average "compromise", and "faye tucker" and "oziline" knocked my
> socks off) there were three songs on sos that i actively dislike and will
> often skip over - don't give that girl a gun, scooter boys, and hey kind
> friend.
>
> hey, why save for later what you can endlessly analyze today. :)
>
> jenna
> wherever@qwest.net
>
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folks:

good news for someone else - bad news for me!  i'm not able to use 2 great
seats to this concert.  mountain winery tickets - saratoga ca - july 26th
7:30 p.m.  family plans got in the way...i hate that!

these are section 3 (i think that's emily side, just to the right of dead
center) row d (yep, 4th row) seats 7 and 8.

i paid $99.30 (yep, ticketmaster gets ya....) and that's all i'm looking
for.  first one to my inbox gets them....

diane l. hartley

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hey folks,

this is forwarded from the news-only list...

-sherlyn

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date: monday, june 25, 2001, 11:20:27 pm
subject: [ig-news] san francisco fillmore show

just wanted to let you bay area people know that the fillmore show is
already sold out ...  not even 48 hours after they went on sale.
and if anyone has 1 or 2 extra tickets that need a purchaser, i'm interested!!

=) elizabeth
esacha@mindspring.com

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from: diane gagnon <dispdmg@yahoo.com>
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sent: tuesday, june 26, 2001 6:31 am
subject: ann landers column from 6/25/2001


> burlington free press:
>
> attached is a message that i have submitted to the distributors of ann
> landers column that the burlington free press ran on 6/25/2001.
>
> i am appalled that the free press would consider to run such a homophobic
> display to this woman's letter in your newspaper.  i have been a loyal
> reader for a long time, and thought that the coverage that your paper has
> given to vermont civil unions and the gay community has been adequate,
> generous at times, and usually, unbiased.  then i read this column.
>
> i would urge your editors to more carefully consider the columns in the
> future that they choose to run in their paper.  freedom of speech
> nonwithstanding, this is over the line.
>
> diane gagnon
> winooski, vt
> dispdmg@yahoo.com
>
>
>
> i am writing in reference to your column posted in newspapers on 6/25/2001
> from "hurting in ohio", titled lesbian's family fighting over her gesture
of
> affection.
>
> i am appalled at the response and homophobia that you fostered with your
> reaction to this writer.  this woman, having made one of the hardest
> decisions of her life to be open with her family about her life, has been
> shut down by you and her own family for displaying a common reaction when
> one is sitting with a loved one - a touch.  i doubt you would have reacted
> in the same way if this would have been a male/female couple.
>
> this woman has already received a hostile reaction from her family, very
> clearly illustrating that they are not supportive of her and her partner,
> and you just made it worse.  why not suggest she contact an organization
> such as p-flag to assist her in educating her family a bit more about
> homophia. instead, a knee jerk reaction on her sister and your part
probably
> has done irreperable damage to this young woman.
>
> there was nothing for this woman to apologize over - the only ones who
> should be issuing apologies here are you and her sister.
>
> (pasted original column)
>
> lesbian's family fighting over her gesture of affection
>
>        dear ann:  i am a 35-year-old lesbian who has recently come out of
> the
> closet.  i told my family and close friends about my sexual orientation
when
> i met the love of my life.  "alice" and i are now living together.
>
>         my family seemed very supportive when i told them, but things
> haven't
> been going as smoothly as i had hoped.  my nephew had a birthday party a
few
> weeks ago, and alice and i were invited.  we sat next to each other on the
> sofa, and i rested my hand on her leg.  my sister was appalled.  she said
i
> am no longer welcome in her home.
>
>         i didn't realize that simple gesture would be so offensive.  i
have
> apologized and promised to avoid public displays of affection toward alice
> at
> future family gatherings, but it has made no difference.  my entire family
> is
> in turmoil, and everyone is fighting.  please help us resolve this.
>
> -- hurting in ohio
>
>         ann says:  for openers, you should keep your hands off alice's
leg.
> the public display of affection did not sit well with the family, as you
now
> know only too well.  i suggest you reiterate your apology, and i hope for
> the
> sake of all involved that it will be accepted.
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> diane gagnon
> im'er: dispdmg
>
> "imitation is the sincerest form of plagiarism."
>

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date:         tue, 26 jun 2001 06:56:01 -0400
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(i forgot to attach the original to the nigc item i just sent about ann
landers column! this is the original e-mail...)

1) action alert: ann landers in need of education
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
considering that ann landers has come a long way from her severely
homophobic
origins, and generally has good advice on same-sex issues, today's column
was
like a blast of frigid wind from the dark ages. it was so bad, in fact, that
it calls for a separate action alert.

in her lead story today, landers responds to a letter from a 35-year old
woman who has just come out of the closet. the woman feels that she is
accepted by her family, until the dreaded moment at her nephew's birthday
party when she dared to place her hand on her partner's leg while sitting on
the sofa. now, despite apologizing for having had the audacity to show
minimal affection for "the love of (her) life," she has been told that she
is
no longer welcome in her sister's house.

so how did ann respond?

by berating this poor woman for showing discreet affection for her partner
and instructing her to apologize again.

ann, are you kidding?

first of all, since when is a simple touch between partners a horrible
crime?
it would be one thing for heavy duty make-out sessions to cause discomfort,
but placing your hand on your partners leg while sitting on a couch? and
then, rather than the sister gently confronting her sibling over this, she
bars her from the house? if this is not an extreme homophobic reaction what
is? was landers missing a cranium screw when she came to answering this
letter?

it is bad enough that the glbt community is asked to be invisible. we are
asked to be comic relief on television, but allowed no love life whatsoever.
for landers to endorse this is rude, damaging and extremely destructive. it
is also unacceptable.

what she should have considered is this, whatever the rules of public
displays of affection for homosexuals should be the same standards adhered t
o
by heterosexuals. the very fact that the woman felt terrible for displaying
the mildest signs of affection showed how she has bent over backwards to
accomodate her hateful sister. and now she is told to apologize again as if
she has done something unspeakable? this woman thought she had a family who
gave a damn about her. personally, i would have told the woman's sibling
that
she was an evil witch and to drop dead. it's a good thing i don't write the
column. what is it you want gays and lesbians to do ann, cut off our
genitalia? would that make us good gays?

she should have recognized the extreme homophobia and possibly offered the
suggestion for the family to contact pflag so that they can better relate to
their lesbian family member and her partner.

meanwhile, what can you do? first write landers at the following link. it is
an e-mail generating page:
http://www.creators.com/lifestyle_writetheauthor.cfm?pg=write&columnsname=al
a

next, write your local paper that prints her column and complain about the
offending piece. demand a retraction by ann to this destructive column. if
we
don't get one relatively soon, i would take it even further.

today, landers revealed herself to be an enemy of the gay and lesbian
community. she has some explaining to do.

the full column, as it appeared in the chicago tribune, appears below.

please forward widely. -- scott

lesbian's family fighting over her gesture of affection

       dear ann:  i am a 35-year-old lesbian who has recently come out of
the
closet.  i told my family and close friends about my sexual orientation when
i met the love of my life.  "alice" and i are now living together.

        my family seemed very supportive when i told them, but things
haven't
been going as smoothly as i had hoped.  my nephew had a birthday party a few
weeks ago, and alice and i were invited.  we sat next to each other on the
sofa, and i rested my hand on her leg.  my sister was appalled.  she said i
am no longer welcome in her home.

        i didn't realize that simple gesture would be so offensive.  i have
apologized and promised to avoid public displays of affection toward alice
at
future family gatherings, but it has made no difference.  my entire family
is
in turmoil, and everyone is fighting.  please help us resolve this.

-- hurting in ohio

        ann says:  for openers, you should keep your hands off alice's leg.
the public display of affection did not sit well with the family, as you now
know only too well.  i suggest you reiterate your apology, and i hope for
the
sake of all involved that it will be accepted.


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
diane gagnon
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i just went to the link posted and wouldn't you they are "sorry" they
"are experiencing a technical problem ."  hm. maybe that shows that the
anne landers action alert is already having impact?

have a very sun shiny day everyone....(especially if the sun is not out)

barb

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>>have we already discussed how annoying the bio on vh1.com is?

http://artists.vh1.com/vh1/artists/ai_bio.jhtml?ai_id=1087>>

i like how they mentioned mary chapin carpenter's backing vocals on "hammer and a nail."  she sang backing vocals on one word!

i think n*i*s is a wonderful album, but for me, swamp ophelia will always remain the #1 favorite.  that one, as well as rop, are the two that i can usually listen to from start to finish without any skipping.  sots is the one i usually skip around the most, although the album has definitely grown on me- caramia is now one of my favorites.

does anybody like cut it out?  i can't stand it when amy uses that particular tone in her singing.

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date:         tue, 26 jun 2001 10:10:20 edt
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here is the vh1.com bio for anyone who is
wondering what all the fuss is about. it does
contain a couple of errors.

as for the n*i*s debate, here is the way i look
at it. what i tend to do is i judge a record
by who has written the best songs on that release,
amy or emily. imho, amy wrote the best songs on
a couple of albums, most of their albums, it has
been a tie, but i think emily by far wrote
the best songs on n*i*s. so i guess n*i*s is
the ultimate album for emily fans.

anyway, here is the vh-1 bio:

this american duo comprises amy ray (b. 12 april
1964, decatur, georgia, usa; vocals, guitar) and
emily saliers (b. 22 july 1963, new haven,
connecticut, usa; vocals, guitar) who had met
aged 10 and 11 while at school in decatur,
georgia, usa. soon they started to perform together, initially as the b band, then saliers and ray.
their first cassette, tuesday's children, mainly consisted of cover versions. they changed their
name to indigo girls while at emory university in atlanta. their early releases were on their own
label, j. ellis records, named after an english
teacher on whom they shared a crush. these commenced with a single, "crazy game", in 1985, followed by an
ep the following year, produced by frank french of drivin' and cryin'. an album, strange fire,
produced by john keane, featured re-recorded
versions of their strongest early songs, "crazy
game" and "land of canaan". ray and saliers were
then signed to epic records in 1988, and their first release for the label featured, among others, michael stipe of r.e.m. and the irish group hothouse
flowers. indigo girls was produced by scott litt,
and included saliers' composition "closer to fine", later recorded by the wonderstuff. the duo toured heavily throughout the usa to promote the album, in addition to playing support dates to neil young and r.e.m. indigo girls achieved gold status in
september 1989, and the duo won a grammy award as
the best contemporary folk group of 1989. strange
fire was reissued towards the end of that year, but
with an additional track, "get together", made
famous by the youngbloods. in addition to playing
an aids research benefit in atlanta, georgia, in
1989, the duo were also asked by paul simon to
perform at a fund-raising event in 1990 for
the children's health fund, a new york-based
project founded by the singer. nomads*indians*saints included the excellent emily saliers song
"hammer and a nail", which also featured mary-chapin carpenter on backing vocals. litt was once again recalled as producer, with r.e.m.'s peter buck also guesting, but the album lacked something of its predecessors' impact. rites of passage repaired
much of the damage, with a full musical cast
including guest vocals by jackson browne, the roches
and david crosby, drums from budgie ( siouxsie and
the banshees ) and production by queensryche
veteran peter collins. traditional songs such as
"the water is wide" as well as a cover version of
dire sraits'"romeo and juliet" made it the indigo
girls broadest and finest set to date. touring and vacations preceded work on swamp ophelia at the end
of 1993. the sessions saw the duo swap acoustic for electric guitars for the first time on "touch me
fall", and while touring they took a break to
appear in a new recording of andrew lloyd webber's musical, jesus christ superstar, with saliers as
mary magdalene and ray as jesus christ. shaming of
the sun and come on now social broke no new ground,
but the duo's songwriting remains as dependable
as ever.

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date:         tue, 26 jun 2001 12:45:54 -0400
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i love nis, it will always remind me of writing by lake andrews in summer
'91, before i ever heard of the internet, before i got into college, before
i figured out if either of them were gay, etc.

but i guess having been a fan for a decade, rop was a huge difference
compared to nis, to try and compare the two is difficult - the majority of
self titled was written before their contract, rem helped out and the first
major label album was really great, nis is equally as compelling, but it
seems to suffer from "way to complicated songs to ever make a single"
syndrome.

rop, well, rop just is an entirely different mood - listen to boots from
say late 90 - 91 and listen to a 92 -93 boot - they seem so much more
vivid, full of life. also - they were amoung a great time for music - tracy
chapman's "matters of the heart" came out the same month - suzanne vega,
10000 maniacs, rem, and a bunch of other great music came out in 92 - you
can't put the same perspective on the album if you heard it today vs,
seeing the tour buying the album the time it came out, etc. "ghost" is
indictative of that - look at emily's writing on nis - very detailed,
almost too much (the girl with the weight, you and me of the 10000 wars)
vs. virginia woolf or ghost - i'm not saying it was better, but it totally
showed a progression.

as for the slam on sots and cons - neither make the grade comparitively to
an nis or rop, but they are great - the sots tour was a lot of fun, same
with cons, it will be interesting to see where the next album goes. i'd
love to see a great folky album where they would really go back to 2500
seat venues, that would be great (sorta like seeing u2 in an arena vs a
stadium), but it may not be where they are at. so whatever. it's like being
an rem fan and suffering through "monster" to get "up " or "reveal" - every
band has it's own stellar moments - imo, u2's new tour was the best show
i've ever seen.

but i never saw ig on nis tour - so who knows.

mike r.


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subject:      june 2001 performing songwriter (igc)
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i just got the latest issue of performing songwriter in the mail, and
it's the annual salute to independents issue.  included is a one page
interview with jerry marrotta about his producing work (no mention of
ig) and a 2 page column written by amy ray about independence and
activism.  i've only skimmed it so far but it looks pretty good.

david byrne is on the cover.  if it isnt at newsstands yet, it will be
within a few days.  enjoy!

amy p.

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    i'm a lifestyles editor at a local newspaper and when i saw the landers
column for today, i wondered if it would turn up on the list...i was shocked
at her advice and dissapointed that she would advise anyone to keep that
part of their life secret...so it's ok if you're a lesbian, just not in
front of me or my kids. dear lord, that's scary considering the size of her
readership. the simple display of affection would have been deemed
appropriate between a man and woman and it saddened me that she didn't
extend the same to a lesbian couple. she has been pretty open-minded in the
past, as far as i can recall, and has always encouraged children to share
this part of their lives with their parents. i've seen her offer support to
those who were not getting it from their families and/or friends, so this
was a little baffling to me. using the we have to protect the kids excuse is
silly, so i'm not sure what she was thinking. i'm sure she'll get some
letters in response to her advice, though.
    on a good ann landers note, i read an upcoming column of hers that's in
response to the rash of school shootings and how many of these kids start
out being teased horribly and she does an excellent job of addressing this
as the core of the problem in many cases. she offers some honest, practical
advice for parents to find out what's going on in their kids' lives and
condems schools for not stopping a situation when a kid is being harassed.
she did good, there, but it still doesn't make up for today's snafu.
later,
michelle

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michelle wrote,
<<when i saw the landers
column for today, i wondered if it would turn up on the list...i was shocked
at her advice and dissapointed that she would advise anyone to keep that
part of their life secret...so it's ok if you're a lesbian, just not in
front of me or my kids. dear lord, that's scary considering the size of her
readership. the simple display of affection would have been deemed
appropriate between a man and woman and it saddened me that she didn't
extend the same to a lesbian couple.>>
  i read that, too. it was simply a hand on her lover's leg. hardly scandalous. i was suprised and saddened by ann's comments that it was inappropriate, especially given her open-mindedness about gay issues overall.
deb

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date:         tue, 26 jun 2001 21:52:20 -0600
reply-to:     garian <vigil@ucsu.colorado.edu>
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is "ann landers" even one single person anymore or a team of writers?  i
get pretty suspicious since i am a ghost writer myself.

g.

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what's the name and address of the best
girl bar in manhattan?

e-mail me privately. :)

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date:         wed, 27 jun 2001 10:35:57 edt
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hey,

i know that this is probably a shot in the dark, but my boyfriend and i need
just one extra ticket to the 7/26 (we're set for the 25th) saratoga show.

if you have just *one* extra ticket (or two -- we would take two and then
sell his) that you need to get rid of, please e-mail me privately.

thanks!

:-) karen

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date:         wed, 27 jun 2001 15:24:20 -0400
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http://www.liquid2k.com/chkngrrl/igfilk.htm

i have updated and reorganized the chartreuse girls archive.  please take a
look and let me know what you think.  also, if anyone has any material to
contribute, feel free to send it along!

what is the chartreuse girls archive, you ask?  it is a collection of indigo
girls song parodies written by fans.  come, take a look!

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hi everybody.
i need a little help ..sorry if is not ig relate. i have a cd that i download
in my pc but is in cda format. how do i go about changing to mp3 ? i tried
the program that i have to do from wav to mp3 but it didn't work. help please
? thanks ahead for any help.
l&l
luna

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<br>i need a little help ..sorry if is not ig relate. i have a cd that i download
<br>in my pc but is in cda format. how do i go about changing to mp3 ? i tried
<br>the program that i have to do from wav to mp3 but it didn't work. help please
<br>? thanks ahead for any help.
<br> l&l
<br> luna</font></html>

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>>http://www.liquid2k.com/chkngrrl/igfilk.htm

i have updated and reorganized the chartreuse girls archive.  please take a
look and let me know what you think.  also, if anyone has any material to
contribute, feel free to send it along!

what is the chartreuse girls archive, you ask?  it is a collection of indigo
girls song parodies written by fans.  come, take a look!>>

i think i'd understand some of these better if i watched x-files.  but i gotta say, "cheese tonight" is hysterical.  :-)

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hey folks,

here's the article from gay.com that ryan mentioned - it's online at
http://content.gay.com/channels/home/women/010301_amy_ray.html...

-sherlyn

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indigo girl amy ray goes stag with solo, indie album

by shannon wentworth
gay.com network

after 10 years producing indie albums on her socially and politically
conscious label, daemon records, amy ray finally recorded herself. the
result is stag, a fusion of folk and punk, that's angry and earnest.

from the classic rock rebellion of the opening track, "johnny rottentail,"
to the infectious pop song "black heart today," ray creates an album that's
more than an indigo girls album with all amy songs. stag is the work of an
artist freeing herself from the confines of a major label and the harmonies
of the indigo girls.

stag was inspired by a stack of songs ray wrote that didn't sound like
indigo girls' songs, but she also wrote several songs while she was
recording the album. ray's collaboration with bands like the butchies and
rock*a*teens changed the sound of stag. she also brought in dyke rockers
joan jett and kate schellenbach (formerly of lucsious jackson) who join her
for the dark tune "hey castrator." the result is a true indie record,
fearless, gutsy and passionate.

producing stag on her own label gave ray the opportunity to speak out about
the sexism of the music industry and imagemakers, like jan wenner,
publisher of rolling stone. in "lucystoners," ray lambastes the white boy's
network, while asserting a do-it-yourself feminist message. the result is a
grungy, punk-pop song that would stick out like a sore thumb on an indigo
girls' album.

recently, gay.com spoke with amy ray about stag, songs emily didn't like
and the state of women's rights.

is this the beginning of the end of the indigo girls?

no, it's not. i think that it's pretty obvious that we are united and
moving ahead.

does emily have any solo projects in the works?

no, not yet, but i think she'll do something.

where does the women's suffragist influence in your music come from?

it's probably coming from the fact that i read a lot of history of the
women's movement in the last couple of years because my girlfriend is a
feminist activist. i got a reading list from her and started reading. i'm
just an avid reader, when i have time, and we would share books. (jennifer
baumgardner, amy ray's girlfriend, wrote manifesta: young women, feminism
and the future.)

i guess i'm pretty aware of feminism, i mean i always have been, but just
naturally at this time it's coming out in my music more.

we (women) are in a weird place in the united states, i think we've made a
certain number of strides and there's a lot of stuff that we've progressed
on superficially, in that, there's a language for things. there's a way to
articulate things. there's laws to protect women in certain ways. i think
the fact that we don't have equal pay, that's a really big deal to me, that
there's not an era (equal rights amendment) so to speak or any real muscle
behind equal pay for women. and the fact that it's hard for us to even
realistically think about a woman president, as a nation i mean, people in
the nation always assume it's going to be a man in a mainstream kind of
world. to me, that means we are just not there yet. the idea of equal
rights is equal access, and we just don't have it yet. but i think that
what we do have is a language and an awareness of what we should be going
for, and i think that's a first step and really neat.

i see a lot of young visionaries, women in their 20s and teens, who really
think about things and won't take no for answer and if the system fails
create your own kind of autonomy, and i think that's really exciting. i
think it means we've gotten somewhere.

i'm interested in women looking beyond their own countries and trying to
unify about what's going on everywhere else, like sweatshops, repression
and how it ties in with international women's rights. i think that when we
can reach out to them and help them in their struggles it furthers our own.

in the song "lucystoners," you really lay into jann wenner. what's your
beef with him?

well, i wasn't singling him out because i have a beef only with him. to me
he symbolizes a huge good-old-boy network of the rock industry. and being
the head honcho of rolling stone magazine, and rolling stone magazine being
the barometer sometimes of where women stand and how women are treated in
the rock world.

has there been pressure on the indigo girls to get the kind of coverage
that rolling stone gives artists like jennifer lopez or sheryl crow?

i don't think we have the looks for it. i don't deny jennifer lopez, or
christina or britney the right to appear how they want to appear. i just
don't have a problem with it. it's so much bigger than what does the person
look like on the cover. it's more like, is that consistently the only way
they'll present women. will they present that, but they won't present the
other side? how many women writers are on the editorial board? who do they
pick to review the records? it's the way that things are done and the way
that women are presented and whether they are given equal access to the
same kind of criticism that men are given.

(rolling stone has) a lot of covers that are women, but it's just a certain
kind of woman. and they don't give any credence to the other side of
things, and that's what bothers me.

i don't think boys need to be attractive to be on the cover, but i think
that is changing. i think boys are starting to be affected by this as much
as girls in some ways. there's unrealistic images of men in modeling as
well, most of the guys i know don't have broad shoulders and an 18-inch
waist. there's unrealistic imaging on both sides.

britney and christina, they don't really bother me. they're entertainers.
but that's not what me and emily did, it's not what we set out to do, we
went down a different path. we were never pressured to do anything like
that, but at the same time our lack of radio success is due to the fact
that i think our label and the industry doesn't know how to deal with
strong women.

stag is your rebellious, punk album. it seems like you are releasing some
frustration after being on a major label for 10 years...

well, i think i could do whatever i want on epic, pretty much. i wouldn't
say they've limited us. but in the parameters of my partnership with emily,
i probably can't do whatever i want. (laughs) you know, i can do pretty
much what i want, but you know anytime you are in a partnership you have to
compromise a little bit.

people usually want to do solo records because they want to express a side
of themselves that's not getting expressed. for me, i needed to express
that side of me that's more influenced by the punk world and the
independent world where it's a lot of do-it-yourself, low-budget projects.
you're not going for radio necessarily, it's like a non-commercial kind of
venture, and the ideas are more singular in their focus.

i think that when emily and i do something together it influences the scene
no matter what, just because we've been together a long time and we both
bring our own personalities to the table and it influences each other's
songs. so i think for me to do something alone without any of that going on
is great. it kind of frees me up and allows me to look at my writing and
everything separate from emily. because when you play with someone for 20
years, everything that you see is through that lens. it was really good
from me to not have to do that. and it's probably going to make my writing
better for indigo girls. probably make me have more clarity in what i'm
doing.

with indigo girls with the last couple records, i'd be in the studio with
emily struggling to try to fit this rock-punk song into an indigo girls
kind of structure. emily can play guitar with anything, she's just got
that, but the players that we play with aren't necessarily from the same
world that i would draw from. and when i bring them in, it's a different
world, it's not a world they feel as comfortable in and so it's harder in
every way. so i would end up not doing some of the stuff i wanted to do or
feeling like "god, what i'm doing right now it's not what the indigo girls
need to be doing right now, there's not enough harmony, there's not enough
this, there's not enough that." so now, i have a place to put all that
stuff.

are there any songs that you brought to the indigo girls that emily just
said, "uh-uh?"

(laughs) nah, cause i pretty much know what she'd say no to, so i don't
even waste my time. emily's very open. she's not a prude or anything, you
know. as different as we are, we are pretty much on the same page. it's not
always theme, it's like this song doesn't lend itself to two voices singing
in harmony or this song is not going to sound right with the indigo girls
band because they have to know how to play emily's stuff and my stuff, and
to play emily's stuff you need to be more intellectually...your
technicality...you probably can't be a punk player and play emily's stuff.
and a lot of emily's players couldn't play punk stuff, they just can't do
it, they can't make that leap. (laughs) we have this middle ground that we
just have to find.

but a song like "lucystoners," you know, i played it for emily, but i never
intended indigo girls to do it. because i knew it would be something that
she might bristle at, and i was right about that. i could tell it wouldn't
be a song we would be learning together. (laughs)

i couldn't see "lucystoners" as an indigo girls' song, but a song like
"lazyboy" has an indigo girls feel to it, in fact it seems more like an
emily song than an amy song?

yeah, "lazyboy" we could do. and we may, at some point, do our own
arrangement of it. but what i was going for was something where it was two
of me, two of me playing guitar and two of me singing to get that kind of
haunted feel. if you had both me and emily doing that, it would give it
more of a jazzy-kinda-duo feel, and i'm not sure i would want it colored
that way.

what about a song like "laramie?" melissa etheridge did a matthew shepard
song on breakdown...

yeah, hers is like so much more literal than i'd want to be. i think it's
good and everything, but what i was trying to go for was a song about hate
in general, not just about homophobia, but about classism too, about who's
to blame in society and who's complicit. it's also these people in the
higher echelons of the financial bracket who think they are so damned
progressive, but they never do anything to really help anybody out. they
sort of think they are tolerant of gay people, because they have a gay
person in their yoga class or something. (laughs) it takes a lot more than
that. you've got to speak out, you've got to work and vote and really try
to make a difference for people. a lot of times there's these hidden
attitudes that no one ever expresses that nurture an environment of hate.
and then some kid goes off and murders somebody else and they all act so
surprised about it, but we all contributed to it because we didn't do
anything to change our attitude in general. we allowed that extra little
room that person needed to feel ok about what they were doing or to carry
their anger out in this way. and i think classism itself breeds a certain
amount of fighting among the oppressed groups, with people groveling for
the little that they are given. i think it's something we all need to think
about and work on. so that song was supposed to deal with a lot more than
(matthew shepard), that's why i say, "this town ain't nothing different."
it could happen anywhere.

how many records do you have left on epic? are you eager to get out of that
contract?

we have two more records on epic. some days we want out and some days we
just don't care. they don't really support us anymore, but they don't try
to stop us.

what's next for the indigo girls? the next indigo girls' album comes out in
10 months. we start recording in july. the next album is going to be more
acoustic.

who were your role models growing up?

when i was really young it was a few of my elementary school teachers who i
really liked, they were women, and david cassidy. (laughs)

i wouldn't say i had super political role models early, early on. i
listened to a lot of music from the 60s and 70s and i had a real sort of
obvious affection for that idea of community and a why can't we all just
get along kind of thing, give peace a chance and all that stuff. so when i
was really young, i was kind of a hippie. and then my role models in the
music world were mostly like independent bands and people doing their own
projects, really a lot of people who are unknown on the atlanta scene.

stag arrives in record stores on march 6. you can also purchase it from
www.daemonrecords.com.

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i was listening to democracey now and amy goodman will be interiviewing
amy ray!!! for tose of you in the new york city area you can catch it
9:00 a.m.  on wbai fm 99.5/or9 (one of the two) for anyone in
st.paul/mpls you can catch it at 12 noon on kfai  i think it's at 90.3
fm (go to the www.kfai.org to clarify that.)
in st paul it's at 106.7 fm .

for anyone else you can go to www.pacifica.org  and click on democracy
now!

peace everyone!  i'm so happy!!

barb, who is so happy to have her web service back.

"for wbai fm (and all the pacifica radio stations,) the studios of the
banned, and the fired, from the studios of
all our listeners" amy goodman, host of democracy now!

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at 03:21 pm 6/28/01, barbara bordner wrote:
>i was listening to democracey now and amy goodman will be interiviewing
>amy ray!!! for tose of you in the new york city area you can catch it
>9:00 a.m.  on wbai fm 99.5/or9 (one of the two) for anyone in
>st.paul/mpls you can catch it at 12 noon on kfai  i think it's at 90.3
>fm (go to the www.kfai.org to clarify that.)
>in st paul it's at 106.7 fm .


...be careful what you dream about and post , eh....

i will be taping this!!!!

there are archives of shows too, so if you gotta work, they are on the web!

  mjr


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      <div>standup comedian faces maximum of 13 years if convicted on all=
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      <div>=91incredible parent=92<br>       district=
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      spokeswoman jane robison said no further details on poundstone=92s =
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           =93i know paula poundstone well enough to know =
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de huge=20
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      poundstone had been aware of the investigation for some time and wa=
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      cooperating with authorities.<br>       =93they=
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      where paula has been and there was certainly no reason for them to =
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i was going to post that article here,
but i hesitated. i didn't think
anyone here wanted to talk about it.

only thing i have to add is that i hope
he is innocent and if she is, i hope
the people that are accusing her totally
vindicate her. if they don't, a charge
like this can really do some damage.

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i have heard a lot about poundstone over the years, and this is totally out of character for her.
i too hope that when the truth comes out she is vindicated.

in a message dated thu, 28 jun 2001  4:23:44 pm eastern daylight time, subcityii@aol.com writes:

<< i was going to post that article here,
but i hesitated. i didn't think
anyone here wanted to talk about it.

only thing i have to add is that i hope
he is innocent and if she is, i hope
the people that are accusing her totally
vindicate her. if they don't, a charge
like this can really do some damage.

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hi all-

i am in need of one ticket to the ig concert at red butte.  i just started
dating someone fabulous and i'd like to take her.  it appears to be sold
out.  so if anyone is looking to sell, do let me know.

chris ii

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