lifeblood: listlogs: 2001-09d


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date:         sat, 22 sep 2001 08:08:25 -0400
reply-to:     mike reynolds <michael_reynolds@yahoo.com>
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from:         mike reynolds <michael_reynolds@yahoo.com>
subject:      re: banned songs - nigc - tribute to heroes show last night.
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at 10:29 am 9/21/01, digest maike singelmann wrote:
>does anybody actually have the entire list of songs that have been banned?
>
>just curious to see what else is on it.
>
>maike :)


i dont think the artists who played last nights "tribute to heros benefit"
cared what was on that list...some highlights in case you didn't watch it...

u2 - walk on - this song is just incredible live.
neil young - on piano - imagine
eddie vedder - the long road
sting - fragile
celine dion - god bless america
fred durst (of limp biskit) "wish you were here - yes it was very well done
- and i abhor limp bizkit...
and paul simon - bridge over troubled water. oh billy joel did new york
state of mind with a fireman's hat on his piano - it was a great show - i
dont have the video - i connected my radio to my hard drive to record it -
it was commercial free - it may be in streaming format somewhere - mp3's
are circulating already.  imho, they'd be crazy not to release the video
and cd - both are incredible.

mike r.


mike reynolds
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date:         sat, 22 sep 2001 21:19:14 +0200
reply-to:     kathrin_siegmund@gmx.de
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from:         kathrin siegmund <kathrin_siegmund@gmx.de>
subject:      mp3: you've got a friend

hi everyone!

this week's mp3 is you've got a friend.
anyone who'd like to have it, please just drop me a line and i'll
send it your way.

take care,
kathrin

ps cathy and claudine, in case you're reading this... bear with me!
;) i haven't forgotten about you, just can't find the time to write a
decent e-mail, argh...

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date:         sun, 23 sep 2001 03:51:24 edt
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from:         "karen r." <indigokare@aol.com>
subject:      begging for a boot
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hey y'all,

i am looking for a boot of the 7/26/01 ig show at the mountain winery in
saratoga, ca.  anyone who was there probably remembers why -- my boyfriend
requested "world falls" for me the night before (i am also looking for the
7/25 boot) and that night they played it for me.  please please please help
me out if you have a copy (i am not overly concerned with the quality) of
this show.

thanks!

:-) karen

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date:         sun, 23 sep 2001 09:55:14 -0600
reply-to:     garian <vigil@ucsu.colorado.edu>
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date:         mon, 24 sep 2001 08:57:41 -0400
reply-to:     jill certo <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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did anybody (video)tape the show?  i missed it and would like a copy if
possible.  let me know.

jill

>dont have the video - i connected my radio to my hard drive to record it -
>it was commercial free - it may be in streaming format somewhere - mp3's
>are circulating already.  imho, they'd be crazy not to release the video
>and cd - both are incredible.
>


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date:         mon, 24 sep 2001 07:03:12 -0400
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subject:      bdays (september 24th - september 30th, 2001)

happy birthday to the following listees!!!!

sept 24 (1980)
amanda [biodb8er@rocketmail.com]

september 24 (69)
garian vigil

sept. 27
drusian@juno.com (heather hughes)

september 27
hunterj1@aol.com (jude hunter)

september 29
younge@ucs.orst.edu (crazy!!!)

september 29 (yay!!!!!)
chickenwomyn@hotmail.com (carol ann petricevic)
"to create...to invent...to endure...to believe....
that sacred moment of vision, when a single (being) is sparked by
inspiration, looks up to the stars...dreams of things that never were,
and vows to make them real......"
- until next time (my om team in '97)

september 30 ('77)
lisag@charity.trinityvt.edu (lisa grandjean)

have a wonderful day, on your birthday and every day.  be good to
yourselves :)

love and devotion,
audra
bge


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date:         mon, 24 sep 2001 20:59:04 -0400
reply-to:     kim & rhea <reebee@otherside.com>
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subject:      atlanta attractions
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we are going to atlanta for the first time!  we are interested in going to
ig-related attractions in and around atlanta.  we are also interested in any
"gay friendly" areas.  we are not really interested in bars.

if there are any other "must see areas" we would love to hear about them.

any help would be appreciated.

kim & rhea

"sometimes i ask to sneak a closer look, skip to the final chapter of the
book...
but the question drowns in its futility, and even i have got to laugh at
me."

emily saliers
indigo girls

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date:         tue, 25 sep 2001 11:25:48 -0500
reply-to:     traci drago <n_d_go_grl@hotmail.com>
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subject:      nigc - go see a movie and donate at the same time
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hey all,

this is a challenge to each of you to do something to help, and all you have
to do is go see a movie!!!!

wehrenberg and amc theatres is going to donate 100% of their proceeds to the
backstoppers from their sale of tickets from tuesday, september 25 movie
goers.

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the backstoppers is an organization that serves the families of our fallen
officers and firefighters.  in addition to paying-off family debts that
exist at the time of the death, and making the mortgage payments on an
ongoing basis, the backstoppers have in place several additional assistance
programs.

where otherwise not provided by an earlier continuing arrangement, the
backstoppers offer pre-paid medical and dental coverage and hospitalization
to the families they assist.

the backstoppers provide up to $2,000 per year to assist youngsters from
grades 1 thru 12.  in addition, the board may approve loans or grants for
higher education.

at christmas every year, each child receives a $200 series ee government
bond.  spouses receive a $200 cashier's check, usually packaged with a box
of chocolates.

a committee of the backstoppers is always ready to provide counsel for
family needs such as employment, education, or possible emergencies.

a backstopper member is assigned to each family to function as a "family
friend".   this person maintains contact with the family throughout the
years, and provides the board with current information on each family's
well-being.  the backstoppers consider it a privilege, as well as a duty, to
make themselves available to help.

traci drago
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date:         tue, 25 sep 2001 18:25:02 +0100
reply-to:     john bond <john.bond@lineone.net>
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subject:      spotted a potential ig cover...
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just listening to kfog san francisco : they're playing "born at the =
right time" by paul simon : somehow imaging emily's voice....

john.

(and they've started to play hammer & a nail!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

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date:         tue, 25 sep 2001 13:23:43 edt
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hi there all.  i am looking for the aug 7, 2001 boot at wolf trap.  have some
to trade...videos...and such.  dying to hear the new stuff.  thanks in
advance..

carla ;o)

"walking on the edge of rage and understanding, between the black and the
white" - melissa etheridge

"with all my shields and protection, it's only me i deceive" - melissa
etheridge

"had enough temporary aquisition; building fences for no gain" - amy ray

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<html><font face=arial,helvetica><font  size=2>hi there all.  i am looking for the aug 7, 2001 boot at wolf trap.  have some to trade...videos...and such.  dying to hear the new stuff.  thanks in advance..
<br>
<br>carla ;o)
<br>
<br>"walking on the edge of rage and understanding, between the black and the white" - melissa etheridge
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date:         wed, 26 sep 2001 01:12:45 edt
reply-to:     emliz92@aol.com
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all right while having loads o' trouble sleeping (pending full moon) i get
im'd by some one who starts chatting about life and music and stuff, and
started asking about my interests in the ig, and she said she looked my at
profile, and told me to look at hers and this was her personal quote "the
less i see my sores the closer i am to fine"- indigo girls, i fell off my
chair laughing, it suddenly didn't make my "gave the chunky girl a smile" jam
seem so stupid.......just a little comic relief!
- janet

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date:         wed, 26 sep 2001 13:28:08 edt
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that's awesome!!!

i guess her interpetation of that line is "as my herpees clears up... the closer i am to fine"!!

joe
brooklyn,ny

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date:         thu, 27 sep 2001 11:25:41 -0700
reply-to:     ryan@hawke2.com
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a b. nagy. i received an envelope from this person yesterday but nothing was
in it. just seeing if anyone here knows about it. we now return you to your
regularly scheduled program.

ryan

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date:         thu, 27 sep 2001 11:26:15 -0700
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> -----original message-----
> from: ryan blackhawke [mailto:ryan@hawke2.com]
> sent: thursday, september 27, 2001 11:26 am
> to: indigo girls
> subject: nigc looking for...
>
>
> a b. nagy. i received an envelope from this person yesterday but
> nothing was in it. just seeing if anyone here knows about it. we
> now return you to your regularly scheduled program.
>
> ryan

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date:         thu, 27 sep 2001 11:28:09 -0700
reply-to:     carrie <carrie827@yahoo.com>
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subject:      new album
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is the new album still slated to be released this
fall?  and does anybody know of a release date or
tentative release date or album title?
eagerly awaiting its release
:-)carrie

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date:         thu, 27 sep 2001 19:27:51 +0000
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i thought they were heading into the studio to record it this fall and that
it would be released next year.

>is the new album still slated to be released this
>fall?  and does anybody know of a release date or
>tentative release date or album title?
>eagerly awaiting its release
>:-)carrie

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date:         thu, 27 sep 2001 14:30:42 -0500
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does anyone have  a boot from the mpls first avenue stag show? if so, i
would be willing to send a b&p, or cdr,  if you are willing to dubb me a
copy.

thanks
barb, who might be out of town friday through sunday.

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subject:      2-5-00 gaspirilla street festival- boot
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in regards to:
the fairly recent large boot offer

was this booted live at the show or recorded off the radio?
i thought it was booted live, but the cd has radio identification stuff in it
so i'm not sure.

curious.
-mel


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<br>in regards to:
<br>the fairly recent large boot offer
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<br>was this booted live at the show or recorded off the radio?
<br>i thought it was booted live, but the cd has radio identification stuff in it so i'm not sure.
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<br>curious.
<br>-mel
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date:         fri, 28 sep 2001 01:10:13 +0200
reply-to:     kathrin_siegmund@gmx.de
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from:         kathrin siegmund <kathrin_siegmund@gmx.de>
subject:      mp3 of the week "mailing list"

<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>hi all!


since some people would like to get all of the weekly mp3s and had to
write to me every week to get each one, i'm putting together a list
of people who'll get the mp3s regularly.


so far there are just two regulars, though;)...:


wendie<color><param>0000,0000,0000</param><bigger> <smaller><<wprince1@cfl.rr.com>

amanda <<atink@uq.net.au>


anybody, who'd like to be included please drop me a line.


the next mp3 of the week will be send out on friday.


take care,

kathrin<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>

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date:         fri, 28 sep 2001 08:26:06 -0700
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subject:      river....joni and emliy
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ya know...i brought in a new set of cd's to listen to today. i tried to grab
a few that i have not heard for awhile ( only have over 500) anyway...i
snagged billie myers, connie kaldor, carrie newcomer, catie curtis and joni
mitchell.

joni's cd is blue...1971...listening to river....it has been a long time
since i listened to her do it.
it is amazing to recal emily doing it and just picture her inmy mind while
listening to joni....a very well done job..if you haven't heard joni do
it...i would recommend it. sparkie


loralei riney
banner health systems-managed care
eligibility supervisor/membership analysts
445 w 5th place mesa, az. 85201
480-827-4829; fax 480-827-4803; pager 602-817-8515

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care<br>eligibility supervisor/membership analysts<br>445 w 5th place mesa, az.
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date:         fri, 28 sep 2001 17:37:04 +0100
reply-to:     john bond <john.bond@lineone.net>
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subject:      re: river....joni and emliy
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it's like when i'm listening to bob dylan singing "tangled up in blue" : =
it's a great song, but i keep hearing amy's voice...

john.
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  sent: friday, september 28, 2001 4:26 pm
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  ya know...i brought in a new set of cd's to listen to today. i tried =
to grab a few that i have not heard for awhile ( only have over 500) =
anyway...i snagged billie myers, connie kaldor, carrie newcomer, catie =
curtis and joni mitchell.=20

  joni's cd is blue...1971...listening to river....it has been a long =
time since i listened to her do it.=20
  it is amazing to recal emily doing it and just picture her inmy mind =
while listening to joni....a very well done job..if you haven't heard =
joni do it...i would recommend it. sparkie


  loralei riney
  banner health systems-managed care
  eligibility supervisor/membership analysts
  445 w 5th place mesa, az. 85201
  480-827-4829; fax 480-827-4803; pager 602-817-8515

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  it...i would recommend it. sparkie</font></span></div><br>
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date:         fri, 28 sep 2001 14:58:17 -0600
reply-to:     garian <vigil@ucsu.colorado.edu>
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good morning america: interview with "repentent" falwell

abc news, september 20, 2001
good morning america
interview: reverend jerry falwell apologizes for his remarks made on pat

robertson's "700 club"
[transcript courtesy of rex wockner]

diane sawyer, co-host: well, as we said, last week, two days after
world trade center attacks, on pat robertson's television show "the 700
club," there was an exchange that has since made a lot of people in this
country gasp, including many of those who suffered losses at the world
trade center and the pentagon. the reverend jerry falwell was talking, and
he said that he saw the terrorist strike as - this is in essence what he
was saying, as god lifting the curtain and allowing the enemies of america
to, quote, "give us probably what we deserve." and why, in his view, would
god do that? well, take a listen to what he said.

reverend jerry falwell (liberty university): i - i really believe
that the pagans, the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the
lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle,
the aclu, people for the american way, all of them who try to secularize
america, i point the finger in their face and say you helped this happen.

mr. pat robertson: well, i totally concur.

sawyer: that was pat robertson speaking after the reverend jerry falwell,
who joins us this morning from lynchburg, virginia. reverend falwell, if i
can just leap right in here.

rev. falwell: yes.

sawyer: your words, "i point the finger in their face and say you
helped this happen." since then, you have said, "i sincerely regret that
my comments were taken out of their context." tell me any conceivable
context that could redeem those words.

rev. falwell: diane, i've also since made it very clear after
rewatching the clip - the clip you've just shown me, i - i misstated my
own deeply-held conviction that the hijackers, the terrorists, along with
those who harbored and funded them, are solely and totally responsible for
those barbaric deeds. but in that interview that you just aired, by the
way, in between 14 other interviews, i was trying - i'm not going to make
any excuses. i've been at this 45 years almost every day on television. no
excuses. i was trying to say what president lincoln said 160 years ago
at his prayer proclamation regarding the cause of the civil war and what
king solomon said 2700 years ago in the proverbs, 14:34. i missed the
mark.  no human being - and i want to say this clearly - including myself,
knows, has any idea when god is executing judgment, when he's not. i
certainly don't believe that those innocent thousands in new york,
washington, pennsylvania, were the targets of god's wrath. but,
unfortunately, my total failure to accurately state what i was trying to
say left an impression that is of a vengeful - vengeful god who's done a
terrible thing to the people. and i--i sincerely apologize.

sawyer: well, forgive me, reverend falwell, if your use of the word
misstatement defies credulity here - and i want to make sure that this
is not about religion.

rev. falwell: i was wrong.

sawyer: well, this is not about religion because a lot of people who
take their faith seriously, as do i, want to ask you some questions
about what you do believe.

rev. falwell: please.

sawyer: because you've said things like this before. pagans,
abortionists, secularists, the aclu, gays, all these lists of people. i
want to know, do you believe that they provoke the wrath of god, that
they--that they endanger america?

rev. falwell: diane, i'm a pastor and i, for 50 years, have been a
pastor. the same, church, 45 years. i do oppose abortion. i do oppose
the removal of school prayer and so forth.

sawyer: it's a different issue, though, about endangering - it's a
different issue about endangering america.

rev. falwell: yes.

sawyer: and are you going to be...

rev. falwell: i do not believe they endanger america. i misspoke
totally and entirely. i'm here by choice because, you know, i want -
want--we're helping. we're raising money for the firefighters fund, we're
trying to minister, we have people on the ground there working. and that
one stupid statement that i made is indefensible, it is not - it is not a
blip, it was a mistake, and i - i didn't get to straighten it out. i - i
made--by the way, i've done thousands of interviews and no - nowhere have i
ever said any such thing, you know that. and this one time i hope that i
can clearly say to the people who've been hurt in new york, washington,
pennsylvania, to all americans, i do not blame god, i do not blame any
human being. this is the act of terrible zealots who hate us because we
love and support israel.

sawyer: well, there was an ad taken out by a group, and we don't
know exactly who they are. they call themselves tompaine.com. and it
says, "we needn't look halfway around the world for intolerance and
zealotry.  we have them right here at home." and your picture is there
with reverend roberts[on] as the american taliban. and their point is that
you demonize entire groups of people and that's exactly what the taliban
do.

rev. falwell: well, in that particular interview you just showed, i
did do that. and i - i did not intend to do that. but i don't know what
a christian - i'm a christian and a pastor, and my experience tells me
that when we do something that we shouldn't do, say something we shouldn't
have said, our apology and acknowledgment should be just as - as public as
our statement. that's why i'm here on good morning america to say to you,
the american people, to the groups i mentioned, i did not intend to do
what obviously i did do. i'm sorry. i have god's forgiveness and i ask
yours.

sawyer: and you will not be attacking these groups again, ever?

rev. falwell: when you say attacking groups, i'll be speaking out
against abortion for as long as i live. i'll be speaking out against the
secularization of our country as long - but no, you will never hear me
blaming individuals. i don't do that. i haven't done it, i'm not doing
it now.

sawyer: a quick final thought from you. pat robertson released a
statement saying that you were, quote, "severe and harsh" and that in
concurring with you, that he did it because, quote, "he frankly didn't
understand you."

rev. falwell: well, pat robertson didn't...

sawyer: didn't he understand you?

rev. falwell: well, pat didn't say what i said. i take the total
blame for it. pat was talking about something totally within the concept
of a good christian program. i am the one who made the stupid statement
you just played, and i take full responsibility. pat is totally
nonresponsible, and i am sorry.

sawyer: reverend jerry falwell, joining us, as we say, from
lynchburg, virginia, we thank you for being on our program this morning.

rev. falwell: thank you.

sawyer: and as you just heard, an apology made. and we'll be right
back....

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date:         fri, 28 sep 2001 17:53:02 -0400
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date:         fri, 28 sep 2001 18:06:23 -0400
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hi again,

sorry about the confusion in my last note...

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