lifeblood: listlogs: 2001-10b


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date: mon, 8 oct 2001 08:01:53 edt
reply-to: rgcs1123@aol.com
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subject: re: nigc-aol users: anyone having trouble logging on at night?
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is there anyone else out there whose having the difficulty i'm having?
for at least the past month, maybe longer, we can't log on at night without
getting kicked off.
i don't know if it's our equipment, too much traffic, or what?
other than contacting aol, which i did, it would help to know if anyone else
is having this problem.
thanks!
rena
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is there anyone else out there whose having the difficulty i'm having?
for at least the past month, maybe longer, we can't log on at night without getting kicked off.
i don't know if it's our equipment, too much traffic, or what?
other than contacting aol, which i did, it would help to know if anyone else is having this problem.
thanks!
rena
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date: mon, 8 oct 2001 09:33:22 -0400
reply-to: jill certo <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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from: jill certo <jillyc@hotmail.com>
subject: nigc: sherman alexie to speak (no rush on this, folks)
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i know he's got some fans on this list, so i thought i'd give some really
advance notice that sherman alexie will be speaking at oberlin college on
march 5 as part of oberlin's convocation series. the event will be free and
open to the public, and probably in finney chapel. mark the calendar, and
i'll send more info in, oh, five months or so. ;)
jill


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date: mon, 8 oct 2001 06:43:48 -0700
reply-to: tara <tara8595@yahoo.com>
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subject: nigc - tame yourself help
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hey gang - thanks for all the kind offers to help. i think i can get
what i'm looking for now.
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date: mon, 8 oct 2001 11:50:32 -0700
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subject: nigc....looking for dirt girl
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if anyone knows her email can you forward this to her and let her know i am
looking for her. i have an email addy for her but fdon't knw if it is
working.
thank you....sparkie
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date: mon, 8 oct 2001 07:22:52 -0400
reply-to: tisara@webworqs.com
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from: "i am 32 flavors and then some..." <tisara@webworqs.com>
subject: birthdays (october 8th - october 14th, 2001)
sending birthday wishes to the following listees:
october 8 ('77)
mweiss@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (michelle rena weiss)
october 9
100064.3337@compuserve.com (gail anthony)
october 10
alhastings@mindspring.com (allison hastings)
october 10
bronwen_besso-smith@sunshine.net(bronwen)
"you don't have to like me for who i am but we'll see what you're made
of by what you make of me"-ani difranco-willing to fight-
"high school is like a sickness.trust me,the fever breaks.then you get
over it."-dolores price-she's come undone-
* 1200 curfews, 10 october 1995
* watershed, 10 october 1995
october 14
kporcaro@usit.net
oct 15, (74)
wpatter@bmimetronics.com (winona patterson)
october 16
eccemis@hotmail.com (lyndsay)
may they be wonderful & safe for all of you!
love & devotion,
audra
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date: mon, 8 oct 2001 23:38:27 -0700
reply-to: ryan@hawke2.com
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from: ryan blackhawke <ryan@hawke2.com>
subject: sigc: doing a check on ebay found this "autographed" item
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i dunno. i have several autographed items from the girls and i really see no
similarity between the signatures on the stuff i have and the signatures on
this item. what do you think? i know if i spent that much money on the item
only to find out it was fake (if that is the case) i'd be hopping mad. not
to mention it looks to me as if the cd is actually a cd-r.
<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=1471429385>
what do you think?
ryan
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date: tue, 9 oct 2001 02:39:59 edt
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from: ehren mitzlaff <hskrfn68@aol.com>
subject: re: sigc: doing a check on ebay found this "autographed" item
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doesnt look like any of the autographs i have either.
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doesnt look like any of the autographs i have either.

ehren
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date: tue, 9 oct 2001 00:50:47 -0600
reply-to: "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
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from: "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
subject: ig muzak and phelps-athon!
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hi,
here's the obligatory igc: i was picking my best friend up at the airport
tonight and while i waited, what to my wondering ears should come over the
speakers? peace tonight, the special muzak remix! oh man...it was bad. and
it was long too. nearly painful.
ok, but here's the real reason i'm e-mailing. remember how i posted
wondering how y'all have dealt with fred phelps and his westboro baptist
"church"? well, the lambda alliance (the glbt organization at the u of
montana) has decided (among many other things) to do a pledge drive...oh,
now you're getting it...i'm hitting you up for money, aren't i? well,
yeah. but no pressure, really.
if any of you kind souls would be inclined to make a pledge of whatever
you feel comfortable with for every minute that these folks spew their
hateful rhetoric, we would be quite appreciative.
here's what you do:
e-mail me (privately of course) with your name, e-mail address, and
pledge. you can also make a minimum and/or maximum donation, so if old
fred decides to make a marathon session out of it, you don't drain the
bank (or if they run away with their tails between their legs after 2
minutes, we still get your 5 bucks! :0). or to save us less
mathematically-inclined folks from pain and agony, you can make a flat
donation that has nothing to do with how long they decide to torture us.
do this *by* monday, october 15, the day it's all going down.
after i get your e-mail, i'll send one back with all the necessary mailing
info, etc.
proceeds will go to:
1) full-page ads in both the missoulian (our local newspaper) and the
topeka capital-journal thanking rev. phelps and the westboro baptist
church for their assistance in raising money for local
gay/lesbian/transgendered groups and extending an invitation for them to
return to missoula, mt in the future.
2) the um lambda alliance, the gay/lesbian/transgendered and straight
student group at um (and the chief target of rev. phelps' protest). (this
money will probably be mostly put towards our pride week, coming up in
april.)
if you're further interested, feel free to ask me any questions.
thanks for listening (or reading, as the case may be)!
amy m.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"so, we must love, while these moments are still called today..."
-emily saliers
"blood runs thick and when it rains, it pours down
on the family tree and the fields of war.
if i spend my time being broken-hearted and grieving-bound,
i haven't much need to look forward."
-amy ray
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date: tue, 9 oct 2001 07:35:58 -0400
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hey...
<<i dunno. i have several autographed items from the girls and i really see
no similarity between the signatures on the stuff i have and the signatures
on this item. what do you think?>>
the "a" in amy looks real enough to me, in fact the whole amy does. the
emily looks normal in terms of penstrokes, but the cover was obviously held
at a funny angle (or didn't have the cd in and was bendy) when it was
signed. obviously their minds were on other things when they signed...
my non-expert conclusion? real, but not good examples. and besides, the fun
is in getting them yourself, right?
<<not to mention it looks to me as if the cd is actually a cd-r.>>
that's a real cd, definitely.
neil
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date: tue, 9 oct 2001 07:30:03 -0700
reply-to: tara <tara8595@yahoo.com>
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from: tara <tara8595@yahoo.com>
subject: re: sigc: doing a check on ebay found this "autographed" item
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i have to agree with neil. the amy and emily sigs look identical to
some i've received, most notably, to ones i got when they were rushing
to get out of the rain before the 9:30 club ngltf fundraiser show. so,
maybe they were rushing or in a hurry when they signed it.
-tara
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date: tue, 9 oct 2001 12:20:15 -0500
reply-to: "kovacs, mirinda" <mirinda.kovacs@westgroup.com>
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from: "kovacs, mirinda" <mirinda.kovacs@westgroup.com>
subject: offer
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hello all,
i have stumbled across an mp3 of the entire amy ray at little brothers on
4/10/01 show. i would be willing to put this on disc for the first ten
people who respond. off list of course :)
just thought i would share in the wealth, it is a good sounding recording.
peace,
mi rinda
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settled down. sweep the ashes, let the silence find us. a moment of peace
is worth every war behind us."
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date: tue, 9 oct 2001 13:30:22 -0400
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it's legit folks. shortly after retrospective was released in late 2000, the single signed by emily and amy was on sale at the indigogirls.com website through artists' direct. i purchased a copy for something like 9.99 and sure enough, the autograph on my leaving cd single is the same....
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date: tue, 9 oct 2001 12:33:38 -0600
reply-to: "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
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from: "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
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hi,
last night, in a sleep-deprived haze, i thought i posted a big long thing
about a pledge drive in response to fred phelps, but it didn't show up in
my inbox. did *anybody* get it?
amy m.
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"so, we must love, while these moments are still called today..."
-emily saliers
"blood runs thick and when it rains, it pours down
on the family tree and the fields of war.
if i spend my time being broken-hearted and grieving-bound,
i haven't much need to look forward."
-amy ray
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date: tue, 9 oct 2001 14:14:04 -0600
reply-to: "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
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from: "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
subject: phelps-athon (nigc)
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okay, so it appears that some of you received my post about this pledge
drive and some did not. just so i don't drive any of those folks who
already received it batty, if you *didn't* get it, but you're curious what
the heck i'm talking about, e-mail me privately and i'll fill you in.
thanks,
amy m.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"so, we must love, while these moments are still called today..."
-emily saliers
"blood runs thick and when it rains, it pours down
on the family tree and the fields of war.
if i spend my time being broken-hearted and grieving-bound,
i haven't much need to look forward."
-amy ray
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date: tue, 9 oct 2001 14:15:22 -0700
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ok thanks for your opinions folks. i wasn't going to bid, just hate when i
see a potential fraudulent action going down. i asked the guy if he would
mind if i had an authentication agency verify the sigs but interestingly
enough, he hasn't gotten back to me. oh, and he has some negative feedback
in his history for selling items with faked sigs.
and yes neil, it is much more fun getting them yourself.
ryan
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> [<mailto:indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org>]on behalf of neil :o)
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> my non-expert conclusion? real, but not good examples. and
> besides, the fun
> is in getting them yourself, right?
>
> <<not to mention it looks to me as if the cd is actually a cd-r.>>
>
> that's a real cd, definitely.
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date: tue, 9 oct 2001 18:25:10 -0500
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after looking at the photo of this on ebay, it looks like someone just took
the cd and the cd insert and stuck it in a nice shadow box. anybody can do
that. i know i used a shadow box to display my autographed record of swamp
ophelia. looks nice.
take care,
paula
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date: wed, 10 oct 2001 10:47:22 edt
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i got this from the indigo girls web site,
it confirms info we've discussed here:
<http://www.indigogirls.com/news_frame.html>
indigo girls are currently in the recording
studio working on their next full-length record.
they are recording with brady blade (drums),
carol isaacs (keys), and clare kenny (bass).
look out for this primarily acoustic record
shortly after the new year!

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date: wed, 10 oct 2001 17:07:07 -0400
reply-to: jill certo <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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from: jill certo <jillyc@hotmail.com>
subject: nigc: need to trace scary emails, help please
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on the chance that there might be some seriously technologically-talented
people on here (i know there used to be).. i'm looking for someone with
hardcore computer skills who knows how to trace emails thru their full
headers. serious replies only.
i didn't mean that to sound like a personals ad. the cops aren't helping so
i thought i'd turn to the computer geeks.
jill

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date: wed, 10 oct 2001 15:59:16 -0700
reply-to: "riney, loralei" <loralei.riney@bannerhealth.com>
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from: "riney, loralei" <loralei.riney@bannerhealth.com>
subject: mi rinda or jill c
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please contact me immediately...
have info

loralei riney
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date: thu, 11 oct 2001 00:15:18 edt
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comments: rfc822 error: <w> incorrect or incomplete address field found and
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subject: constitutional amendment

please read this. signing is simple and the cause is worthwhile.
subject: important constitutional amendment
there is a constitutional amendment being proposed that will ultimately ban
homosexual marriages/civil unions and possibly domestic partner benefits in
the future. it is being pushed through congress quickly so as to make as
little noise as possible...there's so much else in the news right now...
short and to the point: if you agree that gays and lesbians are not second
class citizens and should be allowed the same rights as all men and women,
including marriage/civil unions, then please go to this site and sign the
petition in order to make your opinion known:
<http://www.petitiononline.com/0712t001/petition.html>
this petition is being organized (it's not an "add your name to the bottom
and forward" kind of thing). go to the site itself in order to sign the
petition. and please pass this along to your friends and family (gay &
straight allies) so that we can all, together, convey the message that the
constitution is about human rights, not just religious rights.


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subject: constitutional amendment


please read this. signing is simple and the cause is worthwhile.

subject: important constitutional amendment

there is a constitutional amendment being proposed that will ultimately ban homosexual marriages/civil unions and possibly domestic partner benefits in the future. it is being pushed through congress quickly so as to make as little noise as possible...there's so much else in the news right now...

short and to the point: if you agree that gays and lesbians are not second class citizens and should be allowed the same rights as all men and women, including marriage/civil unions, then please go to this site and sign the petition in order to make your opinion known:

http://www.petitiononline.com/0712t001/petition.html

this petition is being organized (it's not an "add your name to the bottom and forward" kind of thing). go to the site itself in order to sign the petition. and please pass this along to your friends and family (gay & straight allies) so that we can all, together, convey the message that the constitution is about human rights, not just religious rights.


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date: thu, 11 oct 2001 17:00:18 -0400
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at 12:15 am 10/11/01, heidi smith wrote:
>subject: constitutional amendment
>
>
>please read this. signing is simple and the cause is worthwhile.
>
>subject: important constitutional amendment
>
>there is a constitutional amendment being proposed that will ultimately
>ban homosexual marriages/civil unions and possibly domestic partner
>benefits in the future. it is being pushed through congress quickly so as
>to make as little noise as possible...there's so much else in the news
>right now...
>
>short and to the point: if you agree that gays and lesbians are not second
>class citizens and should be allowed the same rights as all men and women,
>including marriage/civil unions, then please go to this site and sign the
>petition in order to make your opinion known:
being a lefty media savvy person, and a person who does a great deal on
civil rights for all people (people with disabilities in particular, but
there is often overlap) this is the first thing i have heard about an
constitutional amendment, and, forgive me, but these things dont just go
quickly through congress. besides both the senate and the house (doubtful,
especially given the democratic majority in the senate) but, 2/3rds of the
states would also need to ratify it.
i am not slamming the person who posted this - it is just that i get tons
of these action alerts on a variety of disability issues and most usually
point to a bill on thomas.loc.gov or some other reputable site - the
problem is that especially in this day and age - urban legends are
everywhere, and it is better to be a bit more informed than wasting time on
an issue that is not really an issue -
(and on-line petitions dont really matter, voting does, calling elected
officials, faxing, email, etc get results.)
just my .02 -
mike r.
mike reynolds
michael_reynolds@yahoo.com
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actually, it is 2/3's of each house and 3/4 of all state legislatures to
enact a constitutional amendment.
<http://www.aclu.org/news/2001/n071101b.html> goes into the reality of the
amendment proposed. it would strip away all domestic partnership laws.
<http://www.aclu.org/news/2001/w071201b.html> tells how yes, indeed, if passed
(imo a very slight possibility), marriage would be defined int he
constitution as between "one man and one woman."
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> [<mailto:indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org>]on behalf of mike reynolds
> being a lefty media savvy person, and a person who does a great deal on
> civil rights for all people (people with disabilities in particular, but
> there is often overlap) this is the first thing i have heard about an
> constitutional amendment, and, forgive me, but these things dont just go
> quickly through congress. besides both the senate and the house (doubtful,
> especially given the democratic majority in the senate) but, 2/3rds of the
> states would also need to ratify it.
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hey -
a whole bunch of people had e-mailed me after i mentioned opening michelle's
show at eddie's attic next week, saying they were going to be there, so i
think i have to call it off here as well - i'm not going to be opening for
michelle the 20th, but instead i'm playing there at an in-the-round this
sunday, the 14th, with jen hamer of clandestine, joe rathbone, and molly
bancroft of lift. ig content? i saw lift open for the indigo girls twice in
1997, and i'm excited about the chance to play in the round with these very
cool people. also, i didn't realize that lift was defunct - i saw that
change from 4 to 3 a couple of years ago, but thought they were still
playing together...anyway, end advertisement. have a nice night!
sarah
reinventing1@mindspring.com 10/14
atlanta, ga 10/24 towson, md
<http://www.sarahpinsker.com/> 10/17
greenville, sc 10/25 baltimore, md
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wilmington, nc 10/26 washington, dc
<http://www.cdbaby.com/pinsker> 10/19
charlotte, nc
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from the the atlanta journal-constitution: 10.11.2001
'no boundaries': indigos, ballet connect onstage
atlanta ballet
in a work choreographed by margo sappington, atlanta ballet dancers will
interpret seven indigo girls songs.
by susan elliott
atlanta journal-constitution staff writer
"t his is the way art is supposed to be: no boundaries, no barriers. i would
hope that someone who likes punk rock will appreciate this as much as someone
who likes ballet and classical music."
amy ray, half of atlanta's famed indigo girls, confesses to knowing "nothing
about dance." yet she and longtime musical partner emily saliers are about to
get a crash course. starting thursday they will join the dancers of the
atlanta ballet on the stage of the fox theatre for six performances of "the
indigo girls project." by all accounts, this is the first time a pop-rock
band has appeared live with a classical ballet company.
the project, which atlanta ballet artistic director john mcfall takes full
credit for dreaming up, was planned last season but derailed by the ballet's
yearlong orchestra strike. now, however, it's a go (and the hope is that an
infusion of indigo fans will help reduce the ballet's deficit of $850,000).
when the invitation first reached the indigo girls, each had a very different
response. saliers remembers thinking it was "cool. as soon as i heard about
it, i wanted to do it, because it's really unusual. plus, we're always
interested in getting people together and mixing it up."
ray recalls wondering, "now, how's that going to work? ballerinas dancing to
our music? hmm." she was still intrigued, she says, partly because one of her
early mentors, the late john blizzard, also managed dance companies. "he was
really important to me," ray says, "so when this came up, i thought of him."
blizzard ran the little five points community club in decatur, where ray and
saliers first started performing as the indigo girls 15 years ago. the two
had been singing together since the '70s, when they were students at laurel
ridge elementary school in decatur. over the years, the folk-rock duo has
evolved into a major musical force, performing up to 200 concerts annually,
recording 10 cds (most gold or platinum sellers) and espousing causes from
the environment to animal rights. they were among the participants in the
sept. 29 centennial olympic park benefit for the victims of the sept. 11
terrorist attacks.
"what they have to say is very compelling, very thought-provoking," says
mcfall, who has long been a fan. "there's a kind of energy, a chemistry, a
feeling, that's just such a good connection for us."
to realize that connection onstage, mcfall turned to margo sappington, a
high-energy, high-profile choreographer with a broad range of experience on
broadway and in opera, classical ballet, jazz and all points in between. a
one-time principal with the joffrey ballet and assistant to michael bennett
on broadway's "promises, promises," her earliest claim to choreographic fame
was "oh! calcutta!," the mostly nude broadway musical of 1969. "that one
really stirred things up," mcfall says, laughing.
there's no nudity in "the indigo girls project," but there is some
significant shedding of clothes. "the ballet starts like a concert, with the
dancers as fans," says sappington. "as it progresses, it becomes more of an
equal situation. they get rid of their normal pedestrian clothes and become
the beautiful dancers that they are.
"the [indigo] girls will have their own world. they'll have separate lighting
from the dancers and be on a platform with their amps and equipment. the
entire stage will be open -- all 80 feet."
the band, aside from ray and saliers on vocals and guitar, includes bass,
keyboards and percussion. in the pit, the atlanta ballet orchestra's string
players will join in on several of the seven songs that comprise the
40-minute piece. after intermission, the ballet -- minus the indigos -- will
dance george balanchine's 1937 classic, "serenade," done to tchaikovsky's
serenade in c.
sappington is fanatical about this project being a collaboration.
"when i introduced the girls to the dancers, i said, 'these are your
co-stars.' "
her choreographic language is very much in the classical tradition, but with
a twist in the torso here, a quick slide across the floor there and some
occasional out-and-out giddiness. in most cases, she does not illustrate
lyrics, but does attempt to capture a song's mood.
"we're definitely trusting margo's sensibilities," says saliers. "if you try
to act out what the songs are saying, it can get borderline hokey."
sappington chose the songs from a list of 30 the girls provided.
among them are "shed your skin," which forms the backdrop for the dancers'
metamorphosis from fans to dancers, and two relative rarities, "caramia" and
"touch me fall."
"when i saw the songs she chose -- some of which we never get to play live --
i thought, if i can get past my own insecurities about the drama in the
music, about whether the music is danceable, it's going to be amazing," says
ray. "and it is. we went to a rehearsal. and i was even having a bad day. but
it was so moving, i just wanted to cry. when 'caramia' started, i thought,
'oh, my god. she's really got a touch.' "
because of their busy schedules, the indigo girls will be able to rehearse
with the dancers only a few days. "the ballet is working their butts off,"
says ray. "all we have to do is show up for about a week and have a lot of
fun."
sappington, who is based in new york, has nothing but praise for atlanta
ballet's young dancers. "they are just such individuals, and i love that. i
don't want the cookie-cutter types. they're also very perceptive. they not
only understand the gesture that i [create], they understand the emotion
behind it."
watching julianne kepley and john welker rehearse their pas de deux in the
song "ghost," for example, one senses the longing, aching sadness of two
people deeply in love yet unable to come together. that emotion is not only
in their bodies, but also on their faces.
"i'm just blown away by these dancers," says ray. "by their physical
strength, their stamina, enthusiasm and the fact that they are so emotional
with our songs. we've got to play really well for them."

ballet preview
"the indigo girls project"
with the indigo girls and the atlanta ballet. 7:30 p.m. thursday; 8 p.m.
friday; 2 and 8 p.m. saturday; and 2 and 7 p.m. oct. 21. $20-$60. fox
theatre, 404-817-8700, www.atlantaballet.com <http://www.atlantaballet.com/>.

also read:
seven indigo songs inspire show
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second article from ajc.com site re: ballet
seven indigo songs inspire show
the atlanta ballet will dance to seven indigo girls songs. here's some
background on the folk-rock tunes:
"least complicated" by emily saliers, from swamp ophelia (1994): saliers
ponders the human tendency to fall into patterns and the lessons we sometimes
miss. the song came about as she was doing just what she sings in the opening
stanza: "i sit two stories above the street/ it's awful quiet here since love
fell asleep/ there's life down below me though/ the kids are walking home
from school." in an interview on public radio international/wxpn's "world
cafe," saliers says she was "thinking about my little sixth-grade boyfriend,
which seems insignificant now, but it was just like the beginning of
patterns."
"touch me fall" by amy ray, from "swamp ophelia" (1994): ray has said more
than once that this is an abstract song and that it was composed at two
contrasting times in her life. "it is sort of about decomposition in
general," she says in an interview posted on the lifeblood web site
(www.lifeblood.net <http://www.lifeblood.net/>) and credited only as coming from the university of new
hampshire in 1994. "decomposition of love, life and fame -- everything. it is
the beauty of decomposition, and i am tying it into the fall, meaning the
season." this song also is the origin of the album's title: "swamp ophelia/
i'm torn down /let your waters/ let me drown."
"shed your skin" by amy ray, from "shaming of the sun" (1997): this has
always seemed one of ray's most personal songs. "i wrote [it] after my
breakup with my ex about how important it is to go do your thing and
celebrate it and celebrate yourself," she told curve magazine.
"caramia" by emily saliers, from "shaming of the sun" (1997): saliers said
this was the first song she wrote on electric guitar. "it's two sections --
one is about the relationship that's totally screwed up, the other is from a
dream that actually our [then] bass player, sara lee, had," she said, before
concluding that the song is more obscure than most of her compositions. it's
hard to argue with that.
"scooter boys" by amy ray, from "shaming of the sun" (1997): this is ray in
political mode. specifically, it's an anti-colonialism song: "hey blueblood
you're nothing new/ you see i come from privilege too/ a chapter in the book
on the americas/ you're just another colonial terrorist." ray said the song
was partly inspired by a conversation in new orleans with another socially
and politically aware musician, midnight oil vocalist peter garrett.
"ghost" by emily saliers, from "rites of passage" (1992): "i think that a lot
of people can relate to what this song says about the way a person can
romanticize the 'ghost' of a love," saliers has said. the opening lines focus
on the perfect keepsake of lost love: "there's a letter on the desktop that i
dug out of a drawer/ the last truce we ever came to from our adolescent war."
"everything in its own time" by emily saliers, from "shaming of the sun"
(1997): "the writing reminds me of old emily, when we first met," ray said of
her bandmate's song. "it's a certain kind of ballad -- melodramatic, with
hispanic-sounding chord changes. one of the song's most powerful lines seems
even weightier these days: "all around the table the white-haired men have
gathered/ spilling their sons' blood like table wine."
atlanta journal-constitution
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date: fri, 12 oct 2001 08:31:09 -0500
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does anyone have any clue if they are planning on recording this show to
later release to the public? i tried e-mailing the atlanta ballet at the
address listed on their web site, but it keeps getting returned as
undeliverable. i would really love to see this, but minnesota is a little
too far away for a quick road trip. any other ideas on who i could e-mail
about this?
mi rinda
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settled down. sweep the ashes, let the silence find us. a moment of peace
is worth every war behind us."
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just found this off rawa.org (a must-see site). octaves beyond silence
project cd features indigo girls, ani difranco, eve ensler, me'shell
ndegeocello and much more.
octaves is a non-profit organization that uses music and the arts as tools
to end violence and discrimination against women and girls throughout the
world. <http://www.octavesbeyondsilence.com/about.html>
ryan
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hey folks sorry to disturb but i was needing desperately to ask an attorney
a question...
specifically in the realm of taxes and spouses.... if anyone can assist that
would be great.
thanks.

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click here: <a href="<http://www.chunky.com/click_for_cans.asp>">campbell's
chunky</a> this will help put food in food pantries. apparently new york
pantries are running thin and local ones are to as people aren't donating
locally right now, sensing the greater need in nyc. campbell's will donate
one can of food per day per individual click on favorite team helmet, to a
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click here:
campbell's chunky <http://www.chunky.com/click_for_cans.asp> this will help put food in food pantries. apparently new york
pantries are running thin and local ones are to as people aren't donating
locally right now, sensing the greater need in nyc. campbell's will donate
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subject: mp3 of the week: summertime
hi everyone!
this week's mp3 is "summertime" taken from the early recordings
volume three: the devil's in our bones album.
anyone who'd like to get the file, please just drop me a line.
in case you'd like to get the weekly mp3s regularly, please just ask
me to include you on the mp3 list.
take care,
kathrin
lyrics for summertime:
summertime
and the living is easy
fish are jumping
the cotton is high
oh your daddy's rich
your mama's good looking
i said hush little baby
don't you cry
one of these mornings
you're bound to rise up singing
then you'll spread your wings
and take to the sky
but til that morning
nothing's going to harm you no
with daddy and mama standing by
summertime
(sweet summertime)
and the living is easy
(living is easy)
fish are jumping
the cotton is high
(sky high)
oh your daddy's rich
(your daddy's rich)
and your mama's good looking
(your mama's good looking)
i said hush little baby
don't you cry
don't you cry
(don't you cry)
summertime
(sweet summertime)
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hi all,
i was wondering if anyone has 1-2 extra tickets for the ig project on
saturday night at 8pm. i'm very interested in taking them off your hands....
let me know.
please respond privately as i am only on the news-only list.
thank you!
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----minquass proverb

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