lifeblood: listlogs: 2002-02a


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tix for the e-town taping in boulder on tues, 2/12 are set to go on sale at
noon on friday.  (amy and emily didn't want to fly in a day early - totally
messing up my travel plans, as i'm supposed to be on my way to see them in
seattle!  spend all night in airlines customer service hell, but you probably
don't need to hear the gory details.)


lauren


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tix for the e-town taping in boulder on tues, 2/12 are set to go on sale at noon on friday.  (amy and emily didn't want to fly in a day early - totally messing up my travel plans, as i'm supposed to be on my way to see them in seattle!  spend all night in airlines customer service hell, but you probably don't need to hear the gory details.)

lauren

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from a friend of mine who just saw them in england.  london, i think.


lauren


i managed to get a copy of the setlist last night (no
small feat since there was a metal barricade and a
grumpy security guy between the floor and the
stage)...  they claimed they hadn't performed a lot of
the new songs in the usa yet.  they were hot!!!!  two
women, claire and carol (british) doing back-up
(claire -- bass, carol -- keys, accordion, whistle and
vocals), with blair cunningham on percussion for one
number. did a lot of new stuff and a lot of old.
they seemed really happy and thrilled by the
audience's enthusiastic response.  sold-out crowd of
2000. way cool!!!  they promised to come back twice
in the next year.

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from a friend of mine who just saw them in england.  london, i think.

lauren

i managed to get a copy of the setlist last night (no
small feat since there was a metal barricade and a
grumpy security guy between the floor and the
stage)...  they claimed they hadn't performed a lot of
the new songs in the usa yet.  they were hot!!!!  two
women, claire and carol (british) doing back-up
(claire -- bass, carol -- keys, accordion, whistle and
vocals), with blair cunningham on percussion for one
number. did a lot of new stuff and a lot of old.
they seemed really happy and thrilled by the
audience's enthusiastic response.  sold-out crowd of
2000. way cool!!!  they promised to come back twice
in the next year.


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mandy just posted about the house concert she is hosting in philly.  i must
add my two cents and urge you all to go see deirdre flint!!


deirdre is an amazingly funny, real, and insightful songwriter.  i've been
playing her cd "the shuffleboard queens" on my radio show for the past two
years, and i still get a kick out of her song "the boob fairy" everytime i
hear it.  if you are anywhere within a reasonable drive of philly, please go
to this show!


(in case you deleted mandy's message, the info about the show can be found
here:  www.southpawconcerts.com)


anna
(who would go, but lives in kentucky, where few singer/songwiters from the
east coast ever perform)

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anna


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pack rats and vandalized nightly."  --roger ebert


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this may sound like a really dumb question but being a fairly new listee i
have to ask. i've never been on the list for a tour yet, so i am extremely
excited, but i was wondering if people arrange times to meet or organize
groups from the list to meet in line. i just want to make sure that i am not
missing out on something just because i didn't know about it. as of right
now my mom and i are planning to go to the catalyst show (still no luck with
slim's tickets, help anyone?). i am trying to get her to take me early but i
need to know when people will be there. thanks.


peace,
leah


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people will get in line very early.  its usually a party, though.  always
meet alot of nice people in ig lines.  for ar & butchies at slims, people
were in line when i got there at 2pm, and i thought i was early!  northern
cal is much more enthusiastic about waiting in line than folks in so cal
where i'm from.  so i hope that gives you some guidelines.


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hey gang.  so i have this cd through connections
with an indie record store, and i've decided to
auction it for charity, instead of keeping the
money, due to my beliefs about not getting
personal gain from ig.


it seemed a shame for the disc to just sit on my
shelf, when a rich, impatient fan could be
enjoying it, and the money could do some good.  i
was tempted to just sell it since they're going
for like $80 on ebay, but that would make me a
big ol' hypocrite.


so.


i've decided to sell it, and donate to my
favorite charitable organization, the nature
conservancy.  they basically pool money from
donors and buy land and keep it undeveloped.  i
think it's a great idea - some places that will
never have trees cut down for strip malls.


anyhow, if you're interested, bid away.  and
instead of someone making money off ig, all the
money will go to save land from development.
here's the link --->
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=1509431710.


spread the word.  thanks.


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my two cents.. yep, people will get in line early.  and this often leads to one of my biggest pet peeves about general ad=
mission shows:  those people are often saving spots for 50 of their closest friends.  so you may have started at second o=
r third but arent when the doors open.


so i make a plea .... please please respect the people around you and dont have a big crowd join you before the doors ope=
n.  i *know* not everyone can get to the venue as early as they like.  and that can suck when you want to be right up at =
the stage.  but the people who did get in line early around you also want the same thing, to be up close.


(by "you" i am directing this out to the list, not the original question-asker).


people are gonna do whatever they want, but it would be nice if getting in line for a gen. admission show also meant that=
was actually the order in which people got it.  perhaps this is a pipe dream.


amy p.
cranky old lister.


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the only time i ever got into a gen adm show in the order i stood in line was
in atlanta at the echo, and that was only because i was first! lol!  yes that
is also a pet peeve of mine as well.  i understand one or two people showing
up late, but 10, which has happened, is a bit much.


sim


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ah, memories of the jerks who actually did this in seattle this past summer.
their alcoholic tendencies just made it that much more pleasant for the rest
of us in line. (and wasn't it just so cute when they started sharing the beer
with their dogs? oh yes.) people like that really ruin things for the rest of us.
-sam


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> my two cents.. yep, people will get in line early.  and this often leads to one of my biggest pet peeves about general admission shows:  those people are often saving spots for 50 of their closest friends.  so you may have started at second or third but arent when the doors open.
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and the girl in denver a few years ago who: 1) showed up late (like =
when we
were getting ready to walk in); 2) drank way too much peppermint =
schnapps;
and 3) started throwing up in a bag while pushing her way in front of
everyone else just so she could pass out and miss the entire show.


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ive been fortunate.  i have had good experiences waiting in line.  always met
great people, always have alot of fun.  in fact, several people i've met in
line have remained friends and we look forward to seeing each other everytime
concert season comes around.  sorry some of you have had those sucky
experiences.  fortunately, i have had all good experiences.


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does anybody either have or know where i can find lyrics to r&j?  would be
much appreciated.  thanx!


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does anybody either have or know where i can find lyrics to r&j?  would be much appreciated.  thanx!

dawn

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<<does anybody either have or know where i can find lyrics to r&j?  would be
much appreciated.>>


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i don't like it when 50 people are jumping in at thte last moment either... <br />
<br />
but many of us travel together, but tickets together and take turns waiting in line, buying the tickets, booking the hotels, etc... <br />
<br />
so occasionally we will have 1-2 people wait in line, until we get off work, drive/fly in from another city...or whatever... <br />
<br />
<br />
best to make friends in line...maybe they will hold your spot next time... <br />
<br />
d:) <br />
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hey y'all.  i put one of these for auction on
ebay.  proceeds go to "the nature conservancy", a
charitable organization that keeps land from
being developed by buying it up and then not
building on it.


anyhow - seemed a shame for the disc to just sit
on my shelf when some good could come of it.  so,
if you're impatient, bid, and it'll help keep the
bulldozers away from some area that could have
become a strip mall.


here's the link if you're interested:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=1509431710


my apologies if this posts twice.  i thought i
sent this message two hours ago, but since it's
not showing up, i'm sending it again.


-tara

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i must agree! so frustrating. and the santa cruz show
is a sunday, so goodness knows what the lines will do.
i have a class all day, so i admit, i am sending down
my sister to stand in line, but we will be there by 4,
and there are only two of us. :)

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<photomonk@earthlink.net> wrote:
> my two cents.. yep, people will get in line early.
> and this often leads to one of my biggest pet peeves
> about general admission shows:  those people are
> often saving spots for 50 of their closest friends.
> so you may have started at second or third but arent
> when the doors open.
>
> so i make a plea .... please please respect the
> people around you and dont have a big crowd join you
> before the doors open.  i *know* not everyone can
> get to the venue as early as they like.  and that
> can suck when you want to be right up at the stage.
> but the people who did get in line early around you
> also want the same thing, to be up close.
>
> (by "you" i am directing this out to the list, not
> the original question-asker).
>
> people are gonna do whatever they want, but it would
> be nice if getting in line for a gen. admission show
> also meant that was actually the order in which
> people got it.  perhaps this is a pipe dream.
>
> amy p.
> cranky old lister.
>
>
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and then there's the *really* pushy people who
get in front of you *after* you get inside the
venue.  so, you've been outside in line for 6
hours to get your 18x18 inch spot on the floor, 3
people deep, only to have someone squish past
everyone in the first row under the guise of,
"i'm just passing this beer to my friend".


i almost had to attempt to deck a guy at amy's
stag concert in dc at the 9:30 club.  i'm really
glad he took the bluff though and moved, because
i think that guy could really have hurt me.  that
would have been an ugly scene.  getting beat up
at an amy ray concert.


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does anyone on this list have contact info for joey krimple aside from this
email address joeyk@lightyearcom.com.  have been trying to get ahold of him
for a week and can't seem to.  email me privately, thanks!!!  or joey, if
you see this, contact me please.


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i just wanted to add my two cents since i'm currently trying to work out a plan for slim's.  we have only 4 people in our group and 2 of us are able to get there earlier than the other 2.  we were planning on holding their spot, but we definitely plan on letting the folks around us know that there were 2 more people in our party who will get there as early as they can.  if people can just be curtious, outside in line, as well as inside, fun will be had by all!

see you in line!

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yeah, but see, that's not fair for the people who
took off work to get there when they do.  if you
really want to be courteous, then when your
friends get there, move to the end of the line
with them when they get there.  otherwise, either
they should make the time sacrifice needed, or
you should just meet after the show.


heck, it's simple cutting in line, and it's
really bad manners.


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we have only 4 people in our group and 2 of us
are able to get there earlier than the other 2.
we were planning on holding their spot, but we
definitely plan on letting the folks around us
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hey maybe i missed something but how is this working?  i thought i heard that
there would be a tree, have the branches been announced yet?  sorry to be a
slow head, but if someone could clarify how to obtain these awesome cds, i
would truely appreciate it. thank you!
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hey maybe i missed something but how is this working?  i thought i heard that there would be a tree, have the branches been announced yet?  sorry to be a slow head, but if someone could clarify how to obtain these awesome cds, i would truely appreciate it. thank you!
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i really have to say i agree with tara.  i mean, i'm going to the philly
show, and i  can't get there until after work, and that's just the way it
has to be.   if some people can not go to work or don't have other
committments and can  stand there, then that's great and good for them,
but my opportunity cost  is too high to not go to work to stand there.
but, i wouldn't expect to get the same results for such a different output
(that is to say, to have  friends stand all day and then join them).  i
would never want to say to a  friend of mine "go stand outside in the
potentially very nasty weather all  day while i work and make money so i
can join you an hour before show  time, thus inching that much closer to
the stage than the person directly  behind you in line who has also been
there all day."  maybe i'm naive.  i just don't think it's very nice.


nora


p.s. sorry about the economical analogies, it just makes sense to me that
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<<heck, it's simple cutting in line, and it's really bad manners.>>
i couldn't agree more.  but, it's something that's never going to stop, =
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matter how much we debate it.  there will always be wonderful people in =
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price
you pay.  i, for one, refuse to attend ga shows and shows at a couple =
of the
local venues here (albuquerque) because the rednecks can't hold their
liquor.  you know, i've seen enough people puke to last me a lifetime!!
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hey folks,


yet another plug from me for a sonia (of disappear fear) gig - she's
playing in adelaide next friday feb 8, at the folk centre.  it will
rock.


hope to see some of you there,
sherlyn


ps - any other sydney folk out there, or am i back to being the only
one again?


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hey if the two really cool vandy seminary women that i met in line at the
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anyone have one extra ticket to the e-town taping at the boulder theater on
feb. 12?  i tried to buy tix, but on the page where i should have received
an order confirmation, i got an error - temporary difficulties. when i tried
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i understand that cutting in line is not curtious and believe me, the last thing that i want to do is make anyone have a bad time.  half the pleasure of an ig concert is the people.  i guess i would just leave it up to the second half of my party on what they wanted to do.

but what about taking turns standing in line?  how is that any different than somebody running to the restroom?  or somebody going to the car to sit down for a while because they're cold?  i guess i just want to make sure how people feel so we can figure out the best way to get there and get a decent spot.  at the last two general admin shows (slim's and filmore), i got stuck behind some tall person that pushed his way through the crowd.  it just didn't seem fair that here i was, a diehard fan for 12 years, and i can't even see because some guy who doesn't even know one song was an ass and i was trying to be nice.

anyway, i don't want to piss anyone off.  that's the last thing i want to do!  i just want to have fun with the music and the people!

happy indigo.

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sorry, i just had one more thing to add.  we were planning on getting in line pretty early (before hotel check in).  then when others from our party arrived, one or two of us could leave to go check in.  i hope that wouldn't upset anyone!

okay, that's it from me.  back to lurking for another year!

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> but what about taking turns standing in line?  how is that any different
> than somebody running to the restroom?  or somebody going to the car to
> sit down for a while because they're cold?  i guess i just want to make


i agree that it's never really going to change.  but, re: people taking
turns.  by taking turns the following thing happens.  let's say 4 people
are going as a group.  these four a,b,c, and d take turns all day standing
in line in hour long shifts.  then, when the doors open those 4 people who
have been there for 2 hours each can get better seats than the people behind
them who may have been there all day long, for 8 hours apiece.  that's
unfair, in my mind.  now, bathroom trips.  well, nature calls, not a lot
you can do about that, imho.


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hi all-
if you look on winmx - ani i guess has played some live sets since 9-11 -
there is a song floating around on the p2p programs - i downloaded it cus i
wanted to hear her newer stuff (and hopefully get a taste of what the
boston show with her solo will be like.)


it is well, thought provoking, personal, political - like her older stuff -
sorta reminds me of pulse when she did it before it was released - just
acapella - i dont even know what my feelings on it are fully - but it is
worth the download.


a public service announcement - now back to your regularily scheduled igc...


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i don't suppose anyone knows the guitar chords for this song.  i love dire
strait's version but amy's sounds like it's straight from the heart.


jen (nh)


> <<does anybody either have or know where i can find lyrics to r&j?  would
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amazon is selling 'become you' with an exclusive bonus disc:


disc: 2
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3. laramie (from amy ray's stag release on daemon records)


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does anyone remember the url for his website, or has it vanished? i thot it
was brianclary.com, but cant get there from here.


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sorry about this you guys - i didn't know it was
going to send a giant html page.  it just asked
when i bought it if i wanted to send anyone a 10%
discount, and i thought i'd send it to the list,
didn't know what was going to happen - i thought
it would just forward a code or something.  so, i
apologize for the bandwidth issue, or if this has
upset anyone.


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however, i just found out that the discount is
good for only one other person... and one of you
has already claimed the discount sent to the list
- but the cool thing is, that if y'all kept doing
this, everyone else on the list who wanted it
could get it at a discount.


just a thought.


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> i don't suppose anyone knows the guitar chords for this song.  i love dire
> strait's version but amy's sounds like it's straight from the heart.


you can find a lot of ig tabs/chords on my site:
http://www.geocities.com/kathrin_ig/


you can go directly to
http://www.geocities.com/kathrin_ig/indigo/indigogirls.htm


for all the ig stuff
and to:
http://www.geocities.com/kathrin_ig/indigo/tabsframe.htm
for the chords stuff


a frameless chords site is at:
http://www.geocities.com/kathrin_ig/indigo/tabsnoframes.htm


and if you just want to go directly to r and j:
http://www.geocities.com/kathrin_ig/indigo/tabslyrics/romeo.htm


happy strumming:).
it's probably my fave song to play.


be well,
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hey all!


you can order the become you cd with the bonus disc here:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/b000060nrj/qid=1012663
977/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_10_2/104-2085110-6684750


:)


be well,
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hey all,
  i've decided that since the list has been so good to me, i'd share some
indigo happiness.  i have two extra tickets for the 26.february.02 bowery
ballroom show (nyc) that i will sell for what i paid ($23.27 each).
  i know there's alot of you out there lookin for tickets, so i thought
i'd make it fair for all of you...if you are interested in 1 or 2
tickets to this gen admin show, you must email me (ds56@cornell.edu)
and convince me that you are (1) a true indigo fan and (2) not gonna
sell the ticket(s) on ebay/for profit....make sure to specify either 1 or
2 tickets....


i will then randomly pick the winner(s) based on those entries that
convince me of both things on monday morning (10am, eastern time).


rock on!
dave
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sorry for the space but i need to talk to lisa ridon...:)


jude :)


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sorry for the space but i need to talk to lisa ridon...:)

jude :)

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howdy ya'll,


first, i just ordered the become you cd from amazon
with the bonus disc and would really love to 'share
the love' with one of ya'll.  so anyone who hasn't
found someone else to get them the 10% discount yet
and would like that opportunity, let me know privately
and i'll share the love with you!


next, i just visited the orpheum theater website for
the madison date that the girls are supposed to play,
and actually had a screen pop up stating spacifically
that no one from the band had contacted the orpheum
and that as of today they are not scheduled to play
here in wi.  i thought i'd pass on that info, and if
anyone sees a change in that status, email me or the
list immediately, my heart is breaking here, this
would have been my first ig concert!!!


finally, would rs wicker please email me privately?  i
sent you a video tape about two weeks ago for the on
the road to austin vid you offered and couldn't get
through on your private email.  thanks!


peace and love ya'll.


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the folks at summer nights @ the pier here in seattle are pretty much
getting it down to a science. you may save space for your significant other
and that is it. you don't get to save spaces for 50 of your closest friends.
though it was attempted and there were alot of politics going on. telling
how early to get in line would be breaking a trade secret (right bonster?).


ryan


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> my two cents.. yep, people will get in line early.  and this
> often leads to one of my biggest pet peeves about general
> admission shows:  those people are often saving spots for 50 of
> their closest friends.  so you may have started at second or
> third but arent when the doors open.


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i wouldn't count on it. the only place i save in line is for my darling wife
because she is the one who supports my indigo habit. go in on a pizza with
you, sure, walk to the john, yeah. save a place for you and your friends?
sorry, especially when the venue clamps down and says "1 person only".
people who arrive later can make their way to the back of the line, unless
it is a so, of course. after all, it is only fair for the others.


ryan


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best to make friends in line...maybe they will hold your spot next time...


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>hey all!
>
>you can order the become you cd with the bonus disc here:
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/b000060nrj/qid=1012663
>977/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_10_2/104-2085110-6684750
>
>:)
>
>be well,
>kathrin
>
>-thanks kathrin, appreciate the info - just pre-ordered mine!!!! :)


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>amazon is selling 'become you' with an exclusive bonus disc:
>
>disc: 2
>1. she's saving me (unreleased acoustic version)
>2. starkville (unreleased acoustic version)
>3. laramie (from amy ray's stag release on daemon records)
>
>i share because i care :)
>
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thanks for sharing neil!


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i so agree with you jen - sorry, i don't know the chords but...amy's really
does sound like it's straight from the heart, doesn't it?  i love it soooo
much.....i didn't even realize it was a dire straits song when i first heard
it by her....i don't think anyone could sing it with so much passion like
she does...:)


donna


>from: jen cattin <jencattin@mediaone.net>
>>i don't suppose anyone knows the guitar chords for this song.  i love dire
>strait's version but amy's sounds like it's straight from the heart.
>
>jen (nh)
>
> > <<does anybody either have or know where i can find lyrics to r&j?
>would
>be
> > much appreciated.>>
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where can i buy tickets for the nashville show?
i am looking for 3.


thanks megan


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hello megan,


my understanding is that the pre-sale is sold out, but that additional
tickets will be sold on the night of the show. if i remember correctly
there will be ~30 tickets on the day of the show, plus whatever number of
tickets they normally sell for standing room.


good luck - todd

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indigo girls=20
3 stars - shepherd's bush empire, london
john aizlewood
guardian
friday february 1, 2002


amy ray and emily saliers can't quite remember the last time they played=20
london. it may have been six years, or seven. whatever, they tell the packed=
=20
crowed, it's been too long. last time out they were the world's most popular=
=20
female vocal duo; today that position seems even more unassailable. they hav=
e=20
their market - good-natured, eco-friendly, sapphic protest - as sewn up as=20
limp bizkit have theirs and the evening's defining moment comes not when the=
=20
crowd takes over the infectious closer to fine, but when former haircut 100=20
drummer blair cunningham ambles on stage to shake his maracas to power of=20
two. "he's really good," chuckles saliers, "for a guy." the overwhelmingly=20
female audience collapses as if this is the funniest thing it has ever heard=
=20
and the circle of affirmation is complete.=20


the duo's vocals are superlative, whether harmonising like the everly=20
brothers on you got to show or spinning off each other at the weirdest of=20
junctures, as when ray takes the lead on shame on you with saliers providing=
=20
the magical counterpoint. together since 1987, they now sing with as much=20
instinct as polish. they fit together perfectly: saliers's plaintive=20
just-fallen-in-love balm (heartbreaking on kid fears) leavens ray's gruffer=20
tones.=20


but the stand'n'strum format ensures there is little movement on stage, the=20
lighting is dreadful and - ray's ill-advised leather trousers aside - the du=
o=20
and their two british backing women (the roadies are female too) make no=20
concession to stage clothing. worse, they seem chary of playing new songs,=20
taking great pains to point out that an older one will follow.=20


this is baffling, for our deliverance and moment of forgiveness are=20
especially lovely. in turn, this leads to a reluctance to run through the=20
standards one more time: "we'll do galileo later," snaps a far-from-pleased=20
saliers. they do, but perfunctorily. in fact, they rather lose the plot=20
towards the end. they exchange songs of luminous beauty for a lengthy, lazy=20
hoedown that one "y'all" after another cannot render authentic. once a most=20
thoughtful duo, they have become mentally flabby. =b7=20


at glasgow fruitmarket (0141-287 5511) tonight.=20

indigo girls go round the outside=20
lesbian feminist anti-war bands are rare in the us,=20
by burhan wazir
observer
sunday february 3, 2002


amy ray, one half of the indigo girls, laughs when asked about a benefit=20
concert the duo recently performed in atlanta. 'i said to the crowd that we=20
should remember homeless people everywhere and even think of those in=20
afghanistan. well, that got a reaction. one guy down the front yelled out:=20
"fuck 'em!"'=20


in a 15-year career, the indigo girls have patented themselves as the voice=20
of america's disenfranchised - lesbians and gays, and the native american an=
d=20
hispanic populations. their interests, which vary wildly from record to=20
record, have won them a modest but loyal fan base.=20


it wasn't an easy start. in their early days, the duo, both lesbians, battle=
d=20
industry stereotypes. 'fans couldn't always understand what we were trying t=
o=20
say,' ray recalls. 'and the men? well, they were just petrified.'=20


'i think we're too set in our ways,' says emily saliers. 'so it's difficult=20
to change. but then you look at what is happening in the charts and it just=20
makes you more determined to stick to your guns.'=20


their latest album, become you , pits the duo against a backdrop of acoustic=
=20
guitars, mandolins, accordions and violins. the record is a homage to=20
americana: a sweeping narrative that takes in the great plains imagery of th=
e=20
wild west. it could be a companion piece to larry mcmurtry's epic lonesome=20
dove.=20


'we were keen to make a record that was more rootsy and more american,'=20
saliers says. 'hell, we even had the idea that we wouldn't use any drums,=20
just some light percussion. but we scrapped that plan. one of us said that i=
t=20
might make for the most boring album of all time.'=20


the record is startlingly different from their two most recent albums, come=20
on now social and shaming of the sun. both releases ventured into tougher=20
territory as the group tried to make concessions to alternative rock. it was=
=20
an unsatisfactory venture.


'i think we were trying to do something different,' ray says. 'we were=20
interested in moving away from our traditional sound. but maybe we lost=20
something. the sound tended to swamp our voices. although it was an=20
interesting experience.'=20


their status as feminist role models has won them fans including natalie=20
merchant, ani difranco and lucinda williams. these days, the pair spendmuch=20
of the year running a private grant-making trust which awards money to=20
activist projects. ray has recently signed john trudell, the native american=
=20
singer-songwriter, to her independent label.=20


while their causes are well publicised, both admit that sympathy for those=20
affected by the war in afghanistan is limited. 'i think people in america=20
aren't ready to take that chance,' saliers says.=20


'people at home just don't seem to understand. they don't get any informatio=
n=20
from anywhere. i'm hoping that will change. we have to understand exactly=20
what it is about america that people hate so much.'=20


become you is released on 25 february on epic  =20
=20
           =20


feeling a kind of blue
indigo girls
this is london
by claire allfree


georgia's indigo girls have been knocking around for ten years or so now,=20
slowly sharpening the acoustic kernel of their songwriting and blithely=20
resisting all corporate pressure to get, you know, a bit hip by merrily=20
ignoring all passing music trends. =20
   =20
as is often the way, history has caught up with them rather than the other=20
way round: their homespun, rather earnest backwater folk is, no doubt=20
unwittingly, more in vogue than it's probably ever been as american roots=20
music becomes increasingly popular.=20

that said, the girls' uk support has, to date, consolidated their lesbian=20
fanbase rather than matched their us success in terms of record sales, with=20
most people over here oddly unaware of a band whose albums regularly linger=20
at the top of the billboard charts for weeks.=20


the girls - emily saliers and the more darkly voiced amy ray - favour a=20
restrained, downbeat songcraft, with their emphasis on emotional integrity=20
reflected in the close vocal harmonies, the pareddown planes of their=20
technically proficient arrangements and unflashy presentation. it makes for=20
some rather worthy listening (this is not a band likely to appear on sm:tv,=20
for example) but the indigo girls are unlikely to care about such things:=20
their music is conservative and resistant to change and, for many people,=20
that's part of their appeal.   =20


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i understand this thread completely, but mostly i have been pleased with
line conduct at the ig shows i've been to. the only thing i have to add is
that it's worse at tori amos shows and her pre-show meet and greets. i was
body checked by a blonde woman at a nyc show and then saw her do it to about
three other people. however, she did get up front and met tori, so i guess
rudeness and evil are sometimes rewarded. "instant karma's gonna get you"


tom


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what the __is this guy john aizlewood saying
<<once a most thoughtful duo, they have become mentally flabby???!!!!>>
gimmee a break man!


sheesh!


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hi all,


i was wondering if someone on this list can help me. i think the chances are
remote, but i thought i'd give it a try.


i have the set lists of all the ig shows i've attended except the first two.
these shows were long ago, before the age of internet documentation of such
things. so, i'm hoping by some strange chance that someone on this list has
the set lists. making this more problematic is that i do not know the exact
dates of the shows anymore. the first show was in early june of 1989 (the
12th i think) at the garden state arts center in holmdel nj. the girls were
opening for neil young. the second show took place on dec. 8 or 9 of 1990 at
cornell university's bailey auditorium, ithaca ny. it was the second of two
shows at that venue.


i realize that the likelihood of getting these set lists is remote, but i'd
really like to have them. any and all help is appreciated.


hope to see some of you in buffalo!
tom


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makes it harder to be livin'
he said, 'it's a long road to be forgiven."
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from lifeblood, wonderful wonderful lifeblood
http://lifeblood.net/setlists/sl1989/061289.html


and


http://lifeblood.net/setlists/sl1990.html
no specific setlist posted for that one


:-)carrie


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> i have the set lists of all the ig shows i've attended except the first two.
> these shows were long ago, before the age of internet documentation of such
> things. so, i'm hoping by some strange chance that someone on this list has
> the set lists.


behold the magic of lifeblood!


opening for neil young in nj:
http://www.lifeblood.net/setlists/sl1989/061289.html


and though there isn't a setlist for the cornell show, the date is listed as
dec. 7th. there are, however, setlists for several of the shows on the same
tour, so you can get a general idea. the bootleg toad's place was recorded only
a few nights later, so you can probably even hear them crack some of hte same
jokes.


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speaking of "lifeblood, wonderful lifeblood," the lyrics for all of the songs
on become you are up there.


this album rocks!  i have a promo copy and i just can't stop listening to it.


:-) karen


ps- traci d, can you e-mail me?  i was wondering if you got nashville tix...
:)  my friend and i got ours, but i may have some suggestions.  :)


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speaking of "lifeblood, wonderful lifeblood," the lyrics for all of the songs on become you are up there.

this album rocks!  i have a promo copy and i just can't stop listening to it.

:-) karen

ps- traci d, can you e-mail me?  i was wondering if you got nashville tix... :)  my friend and i got ours, but i may have some suggestions.  :)

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hi all!


hi all!


sorry, it's been a while but i've been away and been busy with college
(final exams are coming up next month) ever since i got back.
i'll try to make this a weekly habit again, though:).


this week's file is falling star. an amy song from color me grey.
don't know, if it's true but i always thought this one was about emily...
but then again it probably could be about "just some girl" named emily;)...


the lyrics are below....


anyone who's either on my mp3 list and doesn't get this file in his/her
mailbox (let's say 'til monday evening, 'cos sometimes they get stuck in
line somehow, somewhere...) or who's not on my list and would like to be
included or who's not on my list and would just like to get this file,...
please, e-mail me about it.


be well,
kathrin*


*who'd like to say hi to everyone on this list whom she has been neglecting
pretty chronically e-mail writing wise... y'all know who you are... sorry
about that and *hugs* for everyone

falling star


it's like an ocean tide
slowly washing my shores away
it's like the sun above
now sooner or later
i'll have to face that way


now she asks me how you're doing
and i tell her you're getting by
but it's pain and numbness
side by side


you came on the scene
like a star in the northern night
she spread her love to you
like the warmth of a southern sky


and so it goes on
you know it's night and day
one always slips away
there's no one left to blame


love falls down you know and your
and your heart falls to pieces
and your soul might get lost along the way


and all these songs
they used to make you shine
they are just lullabies for your nightmares
i don't want to shed your tears


i followed you northern star
and i shared the fall with you
now i felt the cold glow of the sunset
and i saw that liar's moon


some of us will come down to earth
some of us will burn
love's not always as bright as it should be
tell me do you want to be free


well your love falls down you know
and your heart might fall to pieces
and i saw your soul get lost along the way


all these songs now they used to make you shine
they are just lullabies for your nightmares
and i'll sing them softly now


lately i've felt the warmth
of the one who tore down my walls
but then i look at you
and your twilight consumes it all it does


now i wished upon your falling star
praying i won't fall that hard
and that my love is all it seems to be
because i'll swear it set me free


but emily i gotta tell you i understand i understand
when your love flies away well honesty
that's about the best you can the best you can do
but aren't you empty inside
aren't you


falling star


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hey all, i'm all done with student teaching and home from a vacation and i
figured with the new album and all, i really ought to sign back on.


i missed y'all!!


also, anyone have an extra ticket or 2 to the sold out boston show (maybe
forward to the baigl list? please?), my friend is gonna be in town that day
so she really wants to go!!


thanks all


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hey all - now that i have my 9 to 5 kinda job thang going on, i am
going to try and send out the b-day announcements on sunday evenings
since i can't guarantee that i will be able to do it monday morning...
so here's the list for this week's upcoming birthdays:


february 9
aml@scn.org (ann m. labeck)

in addition, i received a submission after i posted the birthdays for
january - so a "hope it was happy" wish to:


january 21 ('85)
leah walsh (beauty_of_peace@hotmail.com)


have a fabulous week all, be safe, & have fun!


love and devotion,
audra
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than desire and the only proper reason to resist temptation."
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hey y'all,


well, i got back in the early hours of the morning after a wonderful
time following the girls around the uk.  of course, this tour was cut a
little short as try we did, we couldn't get into dublin.  the airport
was closed due to "adverse weather conditions" and so we were stuck in
glasgow.  boohoohoo.  :-(  bye bye, row a tickets.  yesterday was an
emotional roller coaster, i'd rather never go through again.


but having got that off my chest, the other 3 shows were excellent.  and
in the absence of any other reviews, i thought i'd share my thoughts...


london 30th jan 2002, shepherd's bush empire.


we got to the venue 3 hours before doors opened.  a general admission
show, so we thought that would be good buffer time.  and we did well,
there were about 8 die-hards, who we've come to know and love, there
first, but hey when the doors opened and we rushed in, we got front row
amy side.  :-d =20


sulli is back teching for the girls, so it was nice to see a familiar
face.  it was also nice because although this tour was touted as an
acoustic duo tour, they had carol isaacs and clare kenny playing with
them.  we could even see blair cunningham sitting behind the sound desk
and he came out and joined the girls on power of two, adding such depth
to the sound with a shaker!  emily joked how blair is "pretty good...for
a guy" and how honoured they were to have the band with them. =20


the atmosphere was electric though and totally exceeded the girls'
expectations; they were so smiley all night as we impressed them with
our singing and enthusiasm.  they commented on how wary they were coming
back after all this time...the reason being something to do with the
"american timewarp" when try as they might they can't get out of the
states.  so to make up for this, they're promising to return to our
shores twice more this year!!!!=20


i don't have a proper setlist for this show.  this being my very first
ig show, i didn't want to boot it, or worry about anything else except
enjoying it to the fullest.  and enjoy it i did - i have never sung
along so much at a show before!


get out the map was the intro song and the whole audience was singing
away from the get-go. =20
devotion =20
deconstruction - brilliant song, another new emily classic.  her vocals
are better than ever on this tour - clear and strong.  we did notice
that she's using a different microphone now from amy, so whether that
makes a difference??
[and now in no particular order]
our deliverance - a song that was started before sept 11th, but finished
after and influenced by those events.  it was her way of questioning
whether the world can ever get out of the circle of violence.
yield
become you
gone again
you've got to show - emily said we had to imagine that song with a latin
beat in the background.
virginia woolf - a big highlight.  the harmonies on that were amazing! =20
closer to fine - everybody sang along and when emily let us sing the
third verse, we collectively sounded as loud as if we were amplified -
pefect pitch and timing too!  another highlight for ourselves was when
amy stepped beyond the monitors to the edge of the stage, dancing away,
to hear us all sing. =20
power of two - another beautiful singalong.
faye tucker
johnny rottentale
philosophy of loss
shame on you
moment of forgiveness
chickenman with bitter root river - amazing emily solo!
galileo
kid fears - as the girls had a curfew, they didn't go off and come back
for an encore, they just played through it.  and we all know that
galileo is generally the last song.  but we were all making so much
noise that after a short consultation with the venue staff, the girls
came back out to play kid fears (which is one of the songs i really
wanted to hear).  again, we filled in the michael stipe parts to
perfection.


what a special night.  the show lasted for about 1 hour and 50 mins.  it
truly felt like being in the church of a & e.  i think we've done well
enough to convince the girls to keep coming back.


oh, and how could we forget the fashion report...


amy:  a pale blue shirt in a soft fabric, with some tassles at the
front, which opened up nicely to reveal a clear view of her tattoo.  :-d
lovely dark blue jeans - very flattering fit and had a slit at the
bottom of the leg to reveal big black boots! =20
emily:  black trousers, black boots, black shirt with silver studs on
the elbows, worn over a red t-shirt with a japanese face and writing
printed on the front. =20


speaking of fashion, the merchandise offering was very limited, to my
disappointment.  2 t-shirt options were available - baby doll size white
t with blue sleeves that said indigo girls surrounded by a circle of
flowers.  the other was cream colour with a design on the front that i
cannot make sense of, but the back did say ig 2002 and listed all the uk
cities they played in.  prices were =a315 each. =20


we waited outside by the stage door after the show - always worth a try
right!?  during the long wait - we saw a pizza delivery man go inside -
the 20 of us were still in good spirits.  lots of singing was done - of
ig and other songs to pass the time.  we waited a good 2 hours before
the girls made their way to the bus.  they were both very kind and
signed things and agreed to take photos with us.  emily had changed into
a black sweater with a stripe across the front and a red overshirt and
amy was wearing her lovely red leather jacket.  we were a little
intimidated by amy's reputation for some after show meets, but she was
just lovely - very sweet, obliging, friendly - and we're just in love
with her even more now!  :-d =20


manchester and glasgow reviews to follow...


claudine  =20


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check out this beautiful website:


<a href="http://perso.wanadoo.fr/sof-indigo/eurotour">indigo girls : eurotour 2002</a>


jude :)


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does anyone know where "all i know to do is go" is from, and when?  this =
song should definitely be a single for the girls at some point in time.  =
their voices weave together so beautifully!


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hey...


<<does anyone know where "all i know to do is go" is from, and when?  this
song should definitely be a single for the girls at some point in time.>>


it's "leaving" from 'retrospective'. and it was :)


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hey,


just to let you all know, minnesota tickets go onsale through ticketbastard
at 10am on friday morning.


:-) karen


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hey,

just to let you all know, minnesota tickets go onsale through ticketbastard at 10am on friday morning.  

:-) karen

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"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory" - emily saliers
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hello,


does anyone have one extra portland, or ticket?  i have a friend who is
looking for just one ticket.  if you can help, please e-mail me, and i will
forward your message to my friend.


thanks!


:-) karen


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hello,

does anyone have one extra portland, or ticket?  i have a friend who is looking for just one ticket.  if you can help, please e-mail me, and i will forward your message to my friend.

thanks!

:-) karen

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"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory" - emily saliers
become you, the new album by the indigo girls
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(glad i have a promo copy...)
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right folks the hangover is subsiding (it was a great plan to take today
off work !!) so i suppose its up to me to fill you all in on last night
in dublin.


sunday feb 3rd, not just any sunday the indigo girls are in town.
considering how much i've been looking forward to this i'm amazingly
calm.  this is going to be a wonderful day and nothing, but nothing, is
going to spoil it.  my brother has arrived on the midday train from
sligo :-) for the show and at 5:30 the two of us + my wife, bernie, set
off for downtown dublin.  two ig fans plus a woman who remained to be
convinced (but not for much longer !!)  dublin is alive with rugby fans.
(rugby is a game played by men with funny shaped balls, sorry i couldn't
resist that, it's an old joke !!).  a few guinness's were consumed
before the clock hit 7:30 and the doors of the olympia open, we head
across.  as usual the scalpers are there trying to buy and sell tickets.
the show is sold out, that's great because it means they might just come
back for more !!


inside the olympia we locate our seats and head for the bar.  they don't
have guinness, oh no we'll have to drink murphy's instead.  there's a
support band, lema i think ??  the reports from london were bad but then
i didn't think they were that bad, but i'm in good humour tonight.


it's time, we take our seats and wait.  just after 9:00 o'clock the
audience sees emily appearing from backstage before the house lights
have gone down, bedlam !!


in spite of the rumours from london this is a "duo" appearance, just the
two girls and two guitars, well actually 8 guitars, two banjo's a couple
of mandolins and a harmonica (but more about that later !)


the show opens with gone again and hammer and a nail.  then devotion and
our deliverance and deconstruction (what a song !!).  i wouldn't bet
large amounts of money on the exact order from here on in but the show
was mainly new stuff with a sprinkling of  old songs thrown in.  from
become you they played - become you, yield, moment of forgiveness,
nuevas senoritas interspersed with closer to fine (yeah we all sang
along !!), power of two (on request ), virginia woolfe, get out the map,
shame on you.  amy played a couple of songs from stag solo - lucy
stoners and johnny rottentail and then emily played philosophy of loss
on her own.  then emily said i think you all know this one and they
launched into galileo, oh no that means its over :-(.  damien dempsey
sang a song for us to kick off the encore and this was followed by ghost
and chickenman (with bitter root in the middle).  emily simply blew the
audience away with her guitar playing on chickenman !!


some humorous moments;
emily gave us the run down on the new band describing them as english,
which got some hoots of derision from a section of the crowd.  don't get
me wrong this was good natured banter which ended up with emily saying
to herself it was time to "shut the fuck up".  she then referred to the
band as the non-americans.


at one point one of the men in the audience yelled out at emily "go on
ya good thing".  this is a strange irish phrase which totally rocked
emily.  she just said "what" and the guy yelled out again "go on ya good
thing".  the look on her face was priceless, she hadn't a clue what it
was all about.  after about twenty seconds she composed herself and
said, "i'm sorry we don't speak english".  then she told us about how
they were having a hard time understanding everyone and as for scotland,
"aw forget it", which caused great laughter !!


amy seems to have been taking harmonica lessons and she struggled with
it all the way through become you.  at the end of the song she let out a
screech and threatened to feck the thing across the stage.  (the word
feck is another strange irish concoction, in this context it means to
throw in a frustrated manner, but usually it is a sanitised version of
the other "f" word).


another guy yelled out for strange fire and after much discussion the
girls decided they didn't know the chords.  the guy offered to play the
guitar and amy went for it.  she said it wouldn't be the first time they
had someone up from the audience sing.  he went strangely quiet after
that but we all had a good laugh.


there were also requests for language or the kiss and midnight train to
georgia, again the chords were strangely forgotten.


the girls seemed to have a great time, amy had a grin on her face all
night.  at the end of the show flowers were thrown on stage and banners
proclaiming ireland's love of the indigo girls, from the galway girls,
and others were held aloft.


they promised to learn those forgotten chords and return to us twice
this year starting in april.  sounds like a good deal to me !!


i was looking forward to this so much and i wasn't disappointed.  it was
a great show and the only disappointment, and a very slight one it was,
was that they didn't play starkville which is my favourite of all the
new songs.


roll on april


jim
ps my wife, bernie, is now a fully signed up member of the ig fan club.
after the show she said she had never enjoyed a concert so much, high
praise indeed !!!


pps did i mention that we were four rows from the stage !, probably not
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right folks the = hangover is subsiding (it was a great plan to take today off work !!) so i suppose its up to me to fill you all in on last night in = dublin.  

sund= ay feb 3rd, not just any sunday the indigo girls are in = town.  considering how much i've been looking forward to this i'm amazingly = calm.  this is going to be a wonderful = day and nothing, but nothing, is going to spoil it.  my brother has arrived on the = midday train from sligo j<= /span> for the show and at 5:30<= font size=3d2 face=3darial> the two of us + my wife, bernie, set off for = downtown dubl= in.  two ig fans plus a woman who remained to be convinced (but not for much longer !!)  = dublin is alive with rugby fans.  = (rugby is a game played by men with funny shaped = balls, sorry i couldn't resist that, it's an old joke !!).  a few guinness's were = consumed before the clock hit 7:30 and the doors of the olympia open, we head across.  as usual the scalpers are there = trying to buy and sell tickets.  the = show is sold out, that's great because it means they might just come back = for more !!

inside the = olympia we locate our seats and head for the bar. =  they don't have guinness, oh no we'll have to drink murphy's instead.  there's a support band, = lema i think ??  the reports from = london were bad but then i didn't think they = were that bad, but i'm in good humour tonight.

it's time, we take our seats and wait.  = just after 9:00= o'clock the audience sees emily appearing from = backstage before the house lights have gone down, bedlam = !!

in spite of the = rumours from london this is a "duo" appearance, just the two girls and = two guitars, well actually 8 guitars, two banjo's a couple of mandolins and a harmonica (but more about that later !)

the show opens with = gone again and hammer and a nail.  then devotion and our deliverance and deconstruction (what a song !!).  i = wouldn't bet large amounts of money on the exact order from here on in but the show = was mainly new stuff with a sprinkling of  old songs thrown in.  from become you they played = - become you, yield, moment of forgiveness, nuevas senoritas interspersed with closer to fine (yeah we all sang along !!), power of two (on request ), virginia woolfe, get out the map, shame on you.  = amy played a couple of songs from stag solo - lucy stoners and johnny = rottentail and then emily played philosophy of = loss on her own.  then emily said i = think you all know this one and they launched into galileo, oh no that means its = over l<= /span>.  = damien dempsey sang a song for us to kick off the encore and this was followed = by ghost and chickenman (with bitter root in = the middle).  emily simply blew the audience = away with her guitar playing on chickenman !!

some humorous moments; =

emily gave us the run = down on the new band describing them as english, which got some hoots of = derision from a section of the crowd.  don't get me wrong this was good natured banter which ended up with emily = saying to herself it was time to "shut the fuck up".  she then referred to the band = as the non-americans.

at one point one of = the men in the audience yelled out at emily "go on ya good thing".  this is = a strange irish phrase which totally rocked emily.  she just said = "what" and the guy yelled out again "go on ya good = thing".  the look on her face was priceless, she hadn't a clue what it was all about.  after about twenty = seconds she composed herself and said, "i'm sorry we don't = speak english".  then she told us about how they = were having a hard time understanding everyone and as for = scotland, "aw forget it", which caused = great laughter !!

amy seems to have been = taking harmonica lessons and she struggled with it all the way through become = you.  at the end of the song she let = out a screech and threatened to feck the thing = across the stage.  (the word feck is another strange irish concoction, in this = context it means to throw in a frustrated manner, but usually it is a sanitised = version of the other "f" word).

another guy yelled out = for strange fire and after much discussion the girls decided they = didn't know the chords.  the guy = offered to play the guitar and amy went for it.  = she said it wouldn't be the first time they had someone up from the = audience sing.  he went strangely = quiet after that but we all had a good laugh.

there were also = requests for language or the kiss and midnight train to = georgia, again the chords were strangely = forgotten.  

the girls seemed to = have a great time, amy had a grin on her face all = night.  at the end of the show flowers = were thrown on stage and banners proclaiming = ireland's love of the indigo girls, from the = galway girls, and others were held aloft.

they promised to learn = those forgotten chords and return to us twice this year starting in = april.  sounds like a good deal to = me !!

i was looking forward = to this so much and i wasn't disappointed.  it was a great show and the only disappointment, and a very = slight one it was, was that they didn't play = starkville<= font size=3d2 face=3darial> which is my favourite of all the new songs. =

roll on = april

jim

ps my wife, bernie, is = now a fully signed up member of the ig fan club.  after the show she said she had never enjoyed a concert so much, = high praise indeed = !!!

pps did i mention that = we were four rows from the stage !, probably not = j<= /span>

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minneapolis tickets do not needs to be purchased through ticketbastard.  go to:


www.first-avenue.com and check out the other options for purchasing them.  if you live in the twin cities you can go to any number of record stores to get them.  or another option is to reserve them through redpets.com.  i'm guessing that the ticketbastard charges could be as high as $6 a ticket because i looked into buying tickets for flickerstick at the quest in mpls and a $12 turned into an $18.


hope this helps some of you.


lisa

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<p>minneapolis tickets do not needs to be purchased through ticketbastard.  go to:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.first-avenue.com">www.first-avenue.com</a> and check out the other options for purchasing them.  if you live in the twin cities you can go to any number of record stores to get them.  or another option is to reserve them through redpets.com.  i'm guessing that the ticketbastard charges could be as high as $6 a ticket because i looked into buying tickets for flickerstick at the quest in mpls and a $12 turned into an $18.</p>
<p>hope this helps some of you.</p>
<p>lisa</p><br><br>brwgrl<br><br>i am a problem child, i've been wild all my days<br>all my anger and my rage, my senses said it would<br>lead me astray<br>-amy ray<p><br><hr size=1><b>do you yahoo!?</b><br>
<a href="http://rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/tag/?http://auctions.yahoo.com">yahoo! auctions</a> great stuff seeking new owners! <a href="http://rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/tag/?http://auctions.yahoo.com">bid now!</a>
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here's a first-


setlists for london and paris shows are scanned and available on the
official site.
http://www.indigogirls.com/news.html


-bon


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i may have one or two tix available for the seattle show on 2/13.  probably
won't know for sure until the day before.  email if interested.


lauren


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i may have one or two tix available for the seattle show on 2/13.  probably won't know for sure until the day before.  email if interested.

lauren

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and can i just add that the only phenomenon more obnoxious than line-cutters
are those packs of drunken lesbians that are far too common at ig shows?
too, too many times during the suffragette sessions tour, i had to push my
way thru the crowd to get to the bathroom, and, due to the potentially
noxious mix of lesbianism and alcohol, those attempts went something like
this:


jill: scuse me. <tries to push past>


drunken lesbian #1 (the cassanova dyke): oh yeahh, go on, honey!  here, let
me help you.. <puts hand around jill's waist>


drunken lesbian #2 (the machismo dyke): yeah.. hey guys, let tha priddy
lay-dee thru!


drunken lesbian #3 (the frat dyke): ohh, i'm sorry, baby!  you go riiiight
on byyyy. <'helps' jill past, and by 'help,' i mean touches jill in a
rather, um, friendly manner, nearly feeling her up.>


and to add insult to injury, they, like, all had mullets.


*j


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manchester university - main debating hall 31 jan 2002


i'm listening to my boot now to remind myself of the setlist.  it's such
a shame that the sound at this venue wasn't good.  means my boot has
distortion and all.  of course, being right in front of the speaker
didn't help either.  it was so loud that my poor left ear (yes we were
on amy side again) was ringing quite loudly for the next 2 days!  but
that aside, this was another great show.  i only managed to get in
second row, but still had an unobstructed view, so i was pleased.


let's start with the fashion report:


amy:  tan colour shirt with western style embroidery on the front,
mid-brown thin corduroy trousers, and brown thick soled shoes/boots.
emily:  blue jeans, black t-shirt and the black frilly shirt that you
see on the promo photos at the site.


the set was nice and varied compared to the london show - more new songs
and different old ones.  they were also more willing to take requests
and so the setlist was changed as they went along.  this was great for
us, but i think sulli had a stressful night as at one point she handed
amy her black guitar.  amy looked at the guitar, looked at the setlist
and then asked sulli "what is this for?".  but it was good for us as
whilst sulli was retuning, the girls took the opportunity to talk with
us.  they want to be world travellers again (yay).  :-)  emily told us
that they expect to back over here in april/may and again in the summer,
so i'm psyched and ready for that!


amy told us how she injured (pulled a muscle in) her right leg whilst
exercising and doing too many lunges.  she did give us a visual
demonstration of her lunge, albeit sheepishly.  she could use her leg to
help her keep time in songs, but just couldn't walk very well.  i did
notice her limping on stage actually, so it must've been bad.  poor amy.

again, both amy and emily were really smiley and just having a
blast...and so were we.


i have a setlist (thanks so much john), so here it is:


gone again - amy broke her mandolin string.  so yeah, she has 2
identical mandolins as she swapped in the song.
power of two
become you - amy wore a harmonica and looked all ready to play it and
such.  she told us that it was just a prop though; she just needed to
get used to the feel of it on stage.  she said she couldn't play it yet
(although she did later in starkville).
deconstruction - and now amy plays bouzouki on that one
go
watershed - wow!  and emily played classical guitar on that one
moment of forgiveness
virginia woolf
johnny rottentale
collecting you
setlist shows devotion and that was crossed off and replaced with thin
line, yet the girls actually played least complicated.  we had out na,
na's down pat!  ;-)  very cute to see emily give us cues of when to stop
and such.
philosophy of loss
reunion
get out the map
starkville
closer to fine
yield (not shown on setlist)
during the little tuning break, someone shouted up linedancing.  amy
quickly said that despite her shirt, she's not a cowgirl, but emily
knows how to...emily said that was a long time ago, when she went to the
bars and such.  but she did tell her story of how she wore a cowboy hat
and a tassely jacket to a wynonna judd concert.  apparently wynonna said
"hey cowgirl" to emily and after they chatted for a bit, talking about
songwriting together and all, emily said that wynonna said, "sure, i'll
make ya some guitar string money"!!  it was just so cute and nice to
hear the girls talk so much.
she's saving me - setlist said chickenman though.
chickenman - no bitter root river tonight, but another blistering emily
solo
devotion - on setlist, but not played
galileo


the show lasted about 1 hour 45 mins.


we hung around after the show again and we saw emily rush onto the bus
about 40 mins.  amy was also in a rush, but stuck around to sign a few
things.  she was very apologetic for not being able to stay, but they
had to rush.  moving onto glasgow...as i will too...later....


claudine


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i'm going to pre-order the new cd from amazon. if anyone else is
ordering & can pass on the 10% discount link i'd appreciate it. i can
then pass it on to someone else. email me off list if you need the link
sent on to you.=20


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thanks!


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i'm going to pre-order the = new cd from amazon. if anyone else is ordering & can pass on the 10% = discount link i'd appreciate it. i can then pass it on to someone else. email me = off list if you need the link sent on to you.

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hmm, leather pants on amy, that i'd love to see, but according to fans
(whom i trust much more <grin>)
she had on jeans. so, what concert was this bozo at....maybe he saw
etheridge, isn't she over there now too, she wears leather. :-)
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i just checked out the amazon site & i can send the link for a 10%
discount to as many people as i want, but only at the time i place my
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hi all
had to join in now since it's time for all of us the other side of the =
atlantic to grin & walk round for days dreaming about real live indigo =
girls....


had the pleasure of going to the london shepherds bush empire gig on =
weds night which has been kindly reviewed by claudine already.  all i'd =
add is that the plonker guardian journalist needs his own head looking =
at for calling them "mentally flabby"....!!
loved it, bopped up & down way too much, left feeling so great & looking =
forward to seeing them again in london later this year i hope (since =
they promised to do so!)


since no-one so far's mentioned the manchester university gig here goes =
(briefly) - excellent, even better than london in my view cos they =
played a couple more of my favourites  - can't remember the whole set =
list i'm afraid - watershed, least complicated, fugitive etc.  treated =
to amy's manic banjo/mandolin numbers johnny r & faye tucker.  and =
emily's melodic & intense philosophy of loss. whole load of oldies, but =
just anything sounded great live again after six years' absence from =
these shores.  hope they are both not put off by the driving rain & =
gales which have rocked the uk.  talking of rocking - what about amy's =
jim morrison-style brown cord trousers with yellow tour bus buckle & =
western shirt!


someone behind me was trying to boot the concert - if you're on the list =
- i'd love to get a copy!?


whole night was absolutely brilliant - jim from the dublin gig has =
mentioned amy's harmonica attempts for which i feel i must be partly =
responsible (or maybe i'm just kidding myself) - in manchester she told =
the audience how she was just learning on it and we had to bear with her =
- then she proceded to play miles away from the mike so she was the only =
one who could hear it anyway.
so when we caught amy before she managed to escape into the tour bus =
much later, i berated her jokingly for this and said next time "hold it =
to the mike so we can all hear!"  i like to think she heeded my words, =
but sounds like maybe it was bad advice at this stage in her =
development....


anyway, you've all got some great new stuff to look forward to, even =
after 2 nights i feel i know the intros....
hope everyone manages to get tickets, & have as great a time as we did. =
like to think the girls also enjoyed themselves, best part of the =
audience rapport thing was emily trying to impersonate a northern =
england accent saying something like=20
"awlright, mun-chest- a" like some kind of britpop bloke.
anyway, both looked well smiley by the end of both gigs. =20
i'm just so pleased they made it over here, i'm sure all the uk fans =
feel the same way.=20


still enjoying the memories - 3 days later when i should put my head =
down & get on with some work...
cheers
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hi all
had to join in now since it's time = for all of us=20 the other side of the atlantic to grin & walk round for days = dreaming about=20 real live indigo girls....

had the pleasure of going to the = london=20 shepherds bush empire gig on weds night which has been kindly reviewed = by=20 claudine already.  all i'd add is that the plonker guardian = journalist=20 needs his own head looking at for calling them "mentally=20 flabby"....!!
loved it, bopped up & down way = too much,=20 left feeling so great & looking forward to seeing them again in = london later=20 this year i hope (since they promised to do so!)

since no-one so far's mentioned the = manchester=20 university gig here goes (briefly) - excellent, even better than london = in my=20 view cos they played a couple more of my favourites  - can't = remember the=20 whole set list i'm afraid - watershed, least complicated, fugitive = etc. =20 treated to amy's manic banjo/mandolin numbers johnny r & faye = tucker. =20 and emily's melodic & intense philosophy of loss. whole load of = oldies, but=20 just anything sounded great live again after six years' absence from = these=20 shores.  hope they are both not put off by the driving rain & = gales=20 which have rocked the uk.  talking of rocking - what about amy's = jim=20 morrison-style brown cord trousers with yellow tour bus buckle & = western=20 shirt!

someone behind me was trying to boot = the concert=20 - if you're on the list - i'd love to get a copy!?

whole night was absolutely brilliant = - jim from=20 the dublin gig has mentioned amy's harmonica attempts for which i feel i = must be=20 partly responsible (or maybe i'm just kidding myself) - in manchester = she told=20 the audience how she was just learning on it and we had to bear with her = - then=20 she proceded to play miles away from the mike so she was the only one = who could=20 hear it anyway.
so when we caught amy before she = managed to=20 escape into the tour bus much later, i berated her jokingly for this and = said=20 next time "hold it to the mike so we can all hear!"  i = like to=20 think she heeded my words, but sounds like maybe it was bad advice at = this stage=20 in her development....

anyway, you've all got some great new stuff to look = forward=20 to, even after 2 nights i feel i know the intros....
hope everyone manages to get tickets, & have as = great a=20 time as we did. like to think the girls also enjoyed themselves, best = part of=20 the audience rapport thing was emily trying to impersonate a northern = england=20 accent saying something like
"awlright, mun-chest- a" like some kind of = britpop=20 bloke.
anyway, both looked well smiley by the end of both = gigs. =20
i'm just so pleased they made it over here, i'm sure = all the=20 uk fans feel the same way.

still enjoying the memories - 3 days = later when=20 i should put my head down & get on with some work...
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i just had a couple (stupid) questions about this... is the bonus cd only
available if your pre-order through amazon or will it be offered at any
physical retail locations? also, will amazon send it out on 3/12 or will be
sent so you receive it on the twelfth? thanks!


elle


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i contacted russell carter, and the cities 97 fm  in minneapolis, is
sponsoring the event.


tix go on sale sat. feb 9th at 10:30 a.m.
if you want you can get tix a day early by becoming a member of their
frequent listener club. just go to their home page at www.cities97.com
you'll see a big picture of  ig.


click on that and you'll get the rest of the details. i'm not sure where
to get them,  i've told you everything i know.


peace, and don't beat me in line ha ha!


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hi everyone,


i don't post very often but if anything's going to lure me out of lurkdom
then it's a uk ig tour!


considering that the london show was all i could have wished for and more
(and believe me, my expectations were high!) i was seething after reading
that review by some cynical guardian hack (john aizlewood). apart from being
littered with factual inaccuracies (eg amy was *not* wearing leather pants,
and one quote attributed to emily was actually said by amy, which i think is
"mentally flabby" journalism!) the thinly veiled misogyny of the review was
the most depressing thing about it. it's no wonder that amy needed to write
a song like lucystoners...


with that in mind i was therefore delighted to find a positive review of the
london gig by someone who actually seemed to have been at the same show as
me!


indigo girls
shepherd's bush empire
sound check live review for bbc ceefax
by michael osborn


this pair of musical veterans came to london for the first time in 6 years
armed with a bewildering array of guitars, mandolins, lutes and banjos.
georgia duo amy ray and emily saliers admitted that they were nervous about
coming back after such a long break.
but the venue was packed to the gills with an amazingly dedicated and loyal
fanbase - who were richly rewarded.
and for a novice like myself, it wasn't hard to become an enthusiastic
convert.
the overall feel of this long-standing musical pairing is folksy with a
strong twang of good old american hicksville.
but the partnership makes it more subtle and sophisticated than that.
amy has a fascinating alto voice and whips up a storm with her guitar, while
emily is the gentler of the combination.
the pair amazed with their spot-on harmonies, amy's tinged with smokiness,
emily's sweet and pure - both with that irresistible southern drawl.
voices aside, i've never before seen an array of stringed instruments played
with such incredible dexterity.
the girls don't need a drummer because they create the rhythm themselves.
and plaudits must go to their musician who was a master of keyboards,
accordian and penny whistle, adding further depth to the girls' mesmerising
sounds.
as with all gigs, the older numbers proved the greatest crowd pleasers. and
i've never seen a crowd so pleased.
galileo and closer to fine were songs etched on the hearts of every fan in
the civilised, appreciative audience.
they sang a whole verse in perfect pitch and did backing vocals to another.
my highlights were a stunning solo stomper from amy where she whipped up a
storm of unadulterated energy with growling vocals and mashed guitar.
another astonishing tune evoked the drama of a long gone era with soaring
music that made the spine tingle.
other moments also pleased, including a new song with a bosa nova backdrop
just aching to be heard.
some songs simply washed over and were less memorable but the enduring
impression was made strong and clear.
their live performance was faultless, seasoned, natural and engaging.
to witness a bunch of utterly devoted fans was a real pleasure - and made
this concert one to remember.


*************


for any uk fans interested in seeing this review, as of tonight it's still
up on ceefax p.569.
the reviewer might have made more effort to find out names and song-titles
(i think the songs he refers to but doesn't name are johnny rottentale,
virgina woolf and you've got to show, and of course the unnamed musician is
carol isaacs) but at least he seemed to be more interested in the music than
the clothes and didn't appear to feel threatened by the gender of the guitar
tech!


(thanks to claudine for sitting patiently in front of the tv in our
manchester hotel at 1.30 in the morning to copy out the review!)


back to lurking now (unless anyone wants to hear more about the uk shows...)


jen
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howdy,


first, barb, you stated that you contacted russell
carter, and i won't be so rude as to ask how or if i
could, but as of today i noticed that the madison date
for the indigo girls had been taken off of the ig site
and i was wondering why it had been put up in the
first place and if russell was planning on
rescheduling another date for the girls to make it to
wi considering they're hitting both minn. and
illinois, and i was wondering if someone who *can*
contact russell carter would pass along my questions
to him, because my heart is just in two here, i'm
missing my first ig concert now...


finally, i tried to contact a russell carter a few
times, since i sent him a video tape after he offered
to make me a copy of on the road to austin, the ig tv
appearance tape, and now have not heard from him in
over two weeks and am getting slightly worried.  i
hate to think something not so cool is going on, but
sadly i have been 'taken' by other ig booters and tend
to be a little jumpy now.  *sigh* if anyone knows how
i can contact him, or if he has disappeared before,
please let me know.  i really wanted a copy of that
video!  peace and love ya'll...


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all,


the madison date has been changed to friday the 22nd (instead of the 20th).
it is on the official site.


:-) karen


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"my regrets become distractions" - amy ray
"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory" - emily saliers
become you, the new album by the indigo girls
in stores 12 march 2002
(glad i have a promo copy...)
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all,

the madison date has been changed to friday the 22nd (instead of the 20th).  it is on the official site.

:-) karen

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"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory" - emily saliers
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chris patterson writes:


<<that would be great but  think they go on sale through ticketmaster
friday.>>


well, they probably do, however i was told to go to  cities97.com  and i
did. so i guess we can get them both places. i mean cities 97 is
sponsorring.  so you'd think they'd have them too. this is bizarre.


peace
barb


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please keep the list posted if you hear anything about onsale dates for
these tickets.  thanks!


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my guess is that you can order them through ticketmaster on friday only if
you have the special code that members of the frequent listener club will
get through e-mail.  according to cities97 they are not going to be on sale
to the general public until saturday.  so i am thinking that the only way to
get tickets on friday is through the net.  what do you think?  who should we
ask??


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chris patterson writes:


<<that would be great but  think they go on sale through ticketmaster
friday.>>


well, they probably do, however i was told to go to  cities97.com  and i
did. so i guess we can get them both places. i mean cities 97 is
sponsorring.  so you'd think they'd have them too. this is bizarre.


peace
barb


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sheryl and all,


i'm glad to see a madison date still exists, but every
time i go to the orpheum website i get a little pop-up
window specifically stating that the girls have not
booked a date at the orpheum.  apparently i'm not the
only one buggin' 'em about the girls, cause i sure
hope they wouldn't put that up just for my benefit!
anyway, would someone who *can* contact russell carter
*please* ask him what's up with that and if he knows
anything about when tickets will go on sale?  i've
tried so hard i'd hate to miss out on important
information now!  thanks very much.
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madison:        march 22 (yay, friday) at orpheum
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hi everyone,


sonia of disappear fear will be doing a house concert in newtown
(sydney, australia) on saturday, february 16th at 2pm.  this will
be her last public gig before going back to the us and also my
first (and probably also last) house concert.  i'm pretty excited
about it.


snacks and soft drinks will be provided, byo alcohol.  admission
will be by donation, $10-$20 is suggested but whatever you feel
that you can do will be fine (more than that is especially fine!).


numbers will be limited and i'm hoping we're going to be maxed
out, so please let me know asap if you're interested in coming,
and how many people will be in your group.  i'll give you
directions etc after you make your reservation.  we're located
about 5 minutes from newtown train station and also near several
bus stops.


for more information or to make your reservation email me at
sherlyn@fl.net.au or call 0403 176 489.  please also feel free to
pass this message on to anybody in the area that you think might
be interested.


cheers,
sherlyn
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i just went to the first avenue website (at www.first-avenue.com ) their
calendar link to be precise.  the girls were not listed last week but
they are now so i'm willing to bet that we will be able to avoid
tiketbastard, and get tickets there.


but don't quote me until i get back to the list to let everyone know
i've found out for certain.


peace
barb


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the old fruitmarket, glasgow 1 feb 2002


this show was preceded by a lovely drive to glasgow in the strong winds
and rain.  made me think that we'll travel hell and *high water* to see
the girls!  ;-)  but we made it there safely (thanks for the good
driving jen) and scouted out the venue.  we peeked through the open door
of the staff entrance around 2pm and could see the stage fully set up,
presumably ready for soundcheck.  didn't see amy or emily though.


after spying on the venue from a nearby restaurant, we decided to join
our "hardcore fan" friends about 3 hours before doors were due to open.
i think from those we met up with, only 3 are on the list - hi mel,
julie and miriam (with the hat).  if justine or diane do manage to read
this, please email me!


this show was part of the celtic connections music festival in glasgow
and that's why it was pushed to the late time of 10pm.


afer securing our front row places, the show was opened by carina
hewitt.  she played the harp and sang and was wonderful.  i was very
impressed at how versatile the harp sounded.


the girls hit the stage around 11pm.  setlist (in the right order as i
have a boot of it):


least complicated
gone again (amy broke her mandolin string within the first few bars, so
they stopped, allowed her to change mandolins and started again.  emily
informed us that you can't play through a broken mandolin string!)
deconstruction
shame on you
watershed - this time played with a regular steel string.  emily used a
classical guitar the night before to play this
become you - amy explained she had to get the band to count in for her
as her injured leg was her "counting leg" and it was injured.
power of two
yield
she's saving me
faye tucker
get out the map
devotion - amy said how she couldn't believe the wind in this area and
asked whether that was a normal thing.  she explained that they were
going to originally take the ferry to dublin that evening, but the
ferries had all been cancelled due to the winds.  so they planned to fly
the next morning instead.  she then asked "how much safer is that?!"
good point.  :-)
philosophy of loss
moment of forgiveness
virginia woolf
johnny rottentale
our deliverance
chickenman(with bitter root)
galileo
closer to fine - they came back on and said they forgot to play this, so
here it is


another great show, although it felt it a little shorter.  i suppose it
was and it was late, so the show lasted 1 hour 40 mins.  amy and emily
also didn't seem to be so talkative, but i think we were spoiled with
all their lovely chatting at manchester.  they seemed pretty tickled
with the scottish accent and paid attention to a guy who shouted out "oh
really".  amy asked him to keep talking, but he quickly kept quiet after
that.  :-)


fashion report -
amy:  tan/light brown stripe shirt with a small flower running down one
the lighter colour stripe.  light brown check trousers and brown thick
soled boots/shoes.
emily:  blue jeans with a black velvety(?) shirt with shiny embroidery
along the front.  i think the same shirt was worn in paris.


we waited around after the show again - just started to be a habit, but
it was pouring down with rain.  we saw amy walking out and she politely
said that they had no time to meet and greet this evening, due to all
the travelling problems, so that was that.


i've had a great time following the girls around.  kinda have a taste
for it now, so roll on april/may.  :-)


claudine


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basically the scoop is this:
ticketbastard internet presale date is friday, feb. 8th.  anybody (not just cities 97 registered people) should be able to order via the internet on that date.  regular on sale date (via phone or in person) is saturday, feb. 9th.  you cannot buy tickets through cities 97 as far as i know.  win them, probably, but not buy them.
again, as i said yesterday, there are several options available for getting tickets.  if you live in the twin cities and don't want to get raped on the tb charges go to a record store (see www.first-avenue.com for a list).  every store they list has a stack of tickets so if the electric fetus is out of tickets then try down in the valley, etc.  if tb "sells out" there theoretically are still tickets out there at the record stores because they actually have tickets, usually in a cigar box behind the counter, and they are already counted in the "sell out".  the third option is to reserve tickets through www.redpets.com.  they can be picked up the day of the show and they also do not rape you on the charges like tb.
if you have any questions feel free to e-mail me privately.
thanks for listening :)
lisa
  barbara bordner <ritesofpassage9@webtv.net> wrote: chris patterson writes:


<friday.>>


well, they probably do, however i was told to go to cities97.com and i
did. so i guess we can get them both places. i mean cities 97 is
sponsorring. so you'd think they'd have them too. this is bizarre.


peace
barb

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<p> basically the scoop is this:
<p>ticketbastard internet presale date is friday, feb. 8th.  anybody (not just cities 97 registered people) should be able to order via the internet on that date.  regular on sale date (via phone or in person) is saturday, feb. 9th.  you cannot buy tickets through cities 97 as far as i know.  win them, probably, but not buy them.
<p>again, as i said yesterday, there are several options available for getting tickets.  if you live in the twin cities and don't want to get raped on the tb charges go to a record store (see <a href="http://www.first-avenue.com">www.first-avenue.com</a> for a list).  every store they list has a stack of tickets so if the electric fetus is out of tickets then try down in the valley, etc.  if tb "sells out" there theoretically are still tickets out there at the record stores because they actually have tickets, usually in a cigar box behind the counter, and they are already counted in the "sell out".  the third option is to reserve tickets through <a href="http://www.redpets.com">www.redpets.com</a>.  they can be picked up the day of the show and they also do not rape you on the charges like tb.
<p>if you have any questions feel free to e-mail me privately.
<p>thanks for listening :)
<p>lisa
<p>  <b><i>barbara bordner <ritesofpassage9@webtv.net></i></b> wrote:
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i just wanted to pop in and say hi to let you know i'm still here.  it's
great to read all the reviews
from europe and the great articles.


wow! is everyone having as tough a time as i am getting tickets for the club
shows?  i actually had to send my husband to  strawberries to get tickets
for the paradise show in boston and they only gave him one!  since i
promised a friend who moved to ct that i would get her ticket - i got on the
phone and it took me about 15 minutes to get through to next ticketing.
finally i got through and was able to get my tickets - jeeze talk about
ticket stress.  i thought i was going to have a stroke.  now my next
challenge is the echo lounge show in atlanta - that's the only other show
i'll be able to go to, unfortunately.  so wish me luck.


take care
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i just wanted to pop in and say hi to = let you know i'm still here.  it's great to read all the = reviews
from europe and the great = articles.

wow! is everyone having as tough a = time as i am getting tickets for the club shows?  i actually had = to send my husband to  strawberries to get tickets for the = paradise show in boston and they only gave him one!  since i = promised a friend who moved to ct that i would get her ticket - i got = on the phone and it took me about 15 minutes to get through to next = ticketing.  finally i got through and was able to get my tickets - = jeeze talk about ticket stress.  i thought i was going to have a = stroke.  now my next challenge is the echo lounge show in atlanta = - that's the only other show i'll be able to go to, = unfortunately.  so wish me luck.

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found this reading the paper on line this morning...go and vote...who is
your favorite out celebrity?


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hey,


just wanted to get my 2 cents in, as im never anywhere near when the igs
perform and well, the manchester show was just great.


we (me + gf) got to manchester about noon and since we had not been there
before went to look for the uni and the student union bld right away. just
to check out where the venue was and locate the entrances. since we had been
to a show at red rocks co, and the lines at the entrances were just
unbelieveable we were thinking that the earlier we assume our positions the
better. i was a bit surprised that noone was there yet. it was 5 hours to
the show. nor did we see any posters of the show. there just weren't any.
later i spotted an a4 printout "the ig in the main debating hall" on the
information booth's window downstairs. and that's tiny.
there was a lady putting up posters for some event and we asked if she had
any of the igs, and she said didn't rember seeing/having any. so i guess
they were just relying on fans to show up with or without posters.


anyway, since noone was madly queueing we went back to town and had a look
around, and got totally soaked, since it was coming down like nothing else
the whole day. it was nasty as ever. emily later commented on the weather
being really cold. she said she had tried to go running but had to return to
the hotel shortly as she got really cold.


got back to the student union a couple of hours before the show and there
still weren't many people in line. we even felt "safe" enough to have a
couple of drinks in the downstairs student bar. a setback for people in line
at the entrance occured when they were told to leave since queueing on the
stairs was considered a fire hazard. so bust went the queueing system.  as
it was drawing late, and 9-5 staff went home, the line was discreetly
reestablished. i did not see a single security person throughout the wait.
this was something totally different to what we had expected. we didnt even
take our camera. bummer. but being that we were in britain one could peek
through the doors and watch the girls set up and do soundcheck. no big
crowd. no nasty security people. it was all very civilized and nice.


we ended up in the 3nd row in the middle. v.good. also got talking to two
ladies who maintain former brianclary, now ig.rocks.it website. greetings!
can't wait for the boots to go up on the site. the concert was fantastic,
the girls were happy and couldnt stop smiling, especially amy. new stuff was
fantastic. but. as opposed to claudine's comment i dont think the girls were
very talkative during the show. i've heard boots where they just can't stop
chatting. i felt as if a couple of times a potential chat was cut short by
people yelling requests for gallileo.


the setlist was amazing. the most exiting moments: amy screaming on go, amy
doing johnny rotten, starkville, emily's solo on chickenman. emily doing
she's saving me - total silence in the room.


also somebody asked them what they thought of britney and amy went into the
polite,"she'll get older, she'll find her own stuff" banter (very funny) and
said that the next song was dedicated to britney. that song happened to be
she's saving me. oops. to which emily said that actually this was a very sad
and serious song. it looked as if amy apologised to emily after the song.


overall an amazing amazing show. only if people had dared to dance more...


sorry for rambling,


ps. hi to john b. it was nice meeting you after all these years!


kt


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the knitting factory in la (where ig are performing
later this month...yeah!!) is presenting tonight
something called "call us crazy: the anne heche
monologues". it's actually comedians reading from
anne's autobiography. too bad i have to miss it, as it
sounds like a total hoot!


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sorry. testing my mail filtering. love the girls. can't wait to see them in
philly.


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   cities 97 frequent listener club  wrote:
cities 97 presents the indigo girlsthursday, march
21st at first avenue
as a member of the cities 97 frequent listener club,
you can buy tickets to this concert a day before they
go on sale to everyone else! on friday, february 8th
between 10am and 10pm, click on the link below to
order your tickets.
remember, this link will not be activated until 10am
on friday, february 8th:
http://www.listeneremail.com/clicklog.asp?q=ktcz-fmktcz-fm200225a133020


when asked for a password in the "promotions and
special offers" section of the order page, enter:


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i don't think that the password came through.


i just received the e-mail as well.  anyway, the password is: members

:-) karen


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become you, the new album by the indigo girls
in stores 12 march 2002
(glad i have a promo copy...)
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i don't think that the password came through.

i just received the e-mail as well.  anyway, the password is: members


:-) karen

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(glad i have a promo copy...)
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that should have said to put:
member
in the passcode spot.


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for everyone out there requesting the glasgow boot from claudine:  she has
asked me help with the  tree here in the states so everyone relax and we will
get it all together soon.


also, i am in the process of reinventing myself as hunterj_one@msn.com, that
is if this particular isp would let me subscribe to the list.  msn email is a
little cranky and not friendly some times so i have some things to learn.
after aol, anything else is an uphill climb.  but, hey, everyone has to grow
up sometimes.  so what if i cannot cut and paste from email anymore?  no more
lyrics stashed on my hard drive to clutter up that pristine surface,   oh,
don't get me started =)


jude :)


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for everyone out there requesting the glasgow boot from claudine:  she has asked me help with the  tree here in the states so everyone relax and we will get it all together soon.

also, i am in the process of reinventing myself as hunterj_one@msn.com, that is if this particular isp would let me subscribe to the list.  msn email is a little cranky and not friendly some times so i have some things to learn.  after aol, anything else is an uphill climb.  but, hey, everyone has to grow up sometimes.  so what if i cannot cut and paste from email anymore?  no more lyrics stashed on my hard drive to clutter up that pristine surface,   oh, don't get me started =)

jude :)

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while i was poking around on craig's list looking for extra slim's tickets (i
know a lot of people who are still looking... seems like everyone wants a
ticket, but no one has an extra... i should've bought extras during the
presale...), i found this:


http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/tix/2826894.html


extra santa cruz tickets!  who knows if the person is selling at face value
or not, but i thought some of you may be interested.


keep your fingers crossed that mi rinda and i get our minneapolis tix.  i've
been rather lucky with tickets this time around (nashville and san
francisco... have tickets for both... both sold out), so let's hope that luck
stays.


:-) karen


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"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory" - emily saliers
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in stores 12 march 2002
(glad i have a promo copy...)
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while i was poking around on craig's list looking for extra slim's tickets (i know a lot of people who are still looking... seems like everyone wants a ticket, but no one has an extra... i should've bought extras during the presale...), i found this:

http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/tix/2826894.html

extra santa cruz tickets!  who knows if the person is selling at face value or not, but i thought some of you may be interested.

keep your fingers crossed that mi rinda and i get our minneapolis tix.  i've been rather lucky with tickets this time around (nashville and san francisco... have tickets for both... both sold out), so let's hope that luck stays.

:-) karen

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"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory" - emily saliers
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in stores 12 march 2002
(glad i have a promo copy...)
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calling all listees in the twin cities area who are
women's and folk music fans and who would be interested
in helping to promote the following tret fure concert
(hanging flyers, sending e-mails to your friends, etc).
please e-mail me if you are interested.


tret fure, women's and folk music legend, in concert!
saturday, march 16, 10 p.m.
bryant lake bowl
810 w. lake st.
minneapolis
call for info/tix:  612-825-8949


the great tret fure has been going strong on the
women's and folk music scenes for over 30 years!
she has recently released a new solo record that
has smashed the charts and broken the record
on outvoice! (www.outvoice.com) for the longest time
in the #1 spot (almost 30 consecutive weeks!),
beating out all other artists, women and men
included, and all types of music.  outvoice! polls
regular people and music lovers like you and me
about who their favorite glbt musical artists are,
and what their favorite cds are.  the people, all over
the us, have chosen tret and her new back home
cd time and time again.  tret's an awesome
performer, person, and artist!   come and hear
tret live, in an intimate setting!  check out
www.tretfure.com, hear some sound bytes, and
see just how hot she is!


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i can finally post about on sale news for chicago's show on 3/19 at the
metro.  the ig site states the following as of a minute ago:


tickets go on sale thursday, february 21
and are only available to members
of wxrt's "vip" membership list.
those who are not yet vip's can register
at www.wxrt.com
to become members and they
will be sent an email from wxrt
with the link to ticketmaster
and a password that will allow them to buy tickets.


no word on the ticketmaster or the metro chicago websites about this
procedure but i'll take ig's word for it.  i have since gone to the xrt site
to become a "vip member".  it was painless and free.  i received a
confirmation email with a cheesy thank you for becoming an xrt vip member
blah blah email.  no password.  i suppose i will have to just stress out
more waiting for that.  i am not one to bitch about getting tickets but this
new pattern of passwords and special this and that just to buy tix...it
seems like so much extra work for what once was a normal process.  so many
hoops to jump through.  god forbid i was a casual fan--no way i'd see ig on
this tour.


on the bright side, ig playing at the metro for the first time since the
1993 $10 tour may make all the hoop jumping worthwhile.  i just pray i get
some tix as that is one small venue.  and i am announcing now that i work on
tuesdays and a friend will be holding my space in line just for me and i
feel no guilt about it...sorry.  i agree that ga shows present multiple
ethical issues.  i hate ga.  i like the idea of holding spots for no more
than one or two people.  anyway, hope to see some of you there...greg


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i've been really busy lately and not keeping up on ig mail, so i apologize
if this has already been discussed . . .


i was wondering and hoping if someone who was lucky enough to receive an
advance promo copy of the new record would make copies  for those who are
dying to hear it - you know we'd buy it when it came out officially - is
that in the works or is there  a possiblity that  with this material will
be distributed by the haves to the have nots?  doesn't even have to be on
cd - a copy of on a tape is fine.    please?  can someone please get in
touch with me?


elaine


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hi all,


well, thanks to a friend for thinking of me, i was super lucky and we are
going to nashville, but another friend of mine missed out.  she just moved
and hasn't been on the internet.  so i am hoping, praying that just maybe
some kind soul has two extra nashville tickets.  now don't laugh at me, i
have to at least ask.


thanks
traci


also, how does everyone like the by preview cd?


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>finally, i tried to contact a russell carter a few
>times, since i sent him a video tape after he offered
>to make me a copy of on the road to austin, the ig tv
>appearance tape, and now have not heard from him in
>over two weeks and am getting slightly worried.


not that any of you can answer this, so maybe i'm just thinking out loud.
but, um, what is russell carter doing making video boots?  i've never heard
of professional artist management participating in the bootlegging of their
artists.  and besides, i thought russell's official role was to be snarky
when dealing with the fanbase-- is he trying to make nice now?


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well i have never heard of russell making boot copies of videos either!  i
don't know, i think someone might have been screwed over on that deal.  but
i do have to say in russell's defense that i have e-mailed him many times to
ask him questions and he has never been snarky to me.  he is always friendly
and willing to help provide any information he can.  maybe he didn't used to
be this way, but i find him a rather helpful source of information at times.
take care everyone!
:) mi rinda


(please, please, please ticket gods...let me get tickets of friday)

not that any of you can answer this, so maybe i'm just thinking out loud.
but, um, what is russell carter doing making video boots?  i've never heard
of professional artist management participating in the bootlegging of their
artists.  and besides, i thought russell's official role was to be snarky
when dealing with the fanbase-- is he trying to make nice now?


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just wanted to pop my head out of the rabbit hole and say thanks to all =
the great ig fans i met at the recent european tour....


hi claudine and jen (thanks for putting up with me - especially in =
manchester (how many traffic lights do they need?))


hi kadri (nice to see you again - say hi jeannine for me (seems like =
you've been doing that for a while :)  ))


hi miriam (and hat) - good to see you at the melissa etheridge gig....


ok - relurking now......


john.

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just wanted to pop my head out of the = rabbit hole=20 and say thanks to all the great ig fans i met at the recent european=20 tour....

hi claudine and jen (thanks for putting = up with me=20 - especially in manchester (how many traffic lights do they = need?))

hi kadri (nice to see you again - say = hi jeannine=20 for me (seems like you've been doing that for a while :)  = ))

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howdy ya'll,
ok, dig, i've received more than a few emails privately about this and i thought i'd just come onlist and clear things up cause it seems to be causing some disruption.  i made a typo the other day when commenting on a person, rs wicker, whom i sent a blank vhs tape to to make me a copy of the on the road to austin video.  but in that same email i was discussing russell carter and his idea to put up a madison wi date without the theater knowing about it.  in the process of doing this, obviously i was distracted, but i put russell carter where i should have put rs wicker.  so no, russell carter is *not* making money or even copies off/of the otrta video, it was my honest mistake, and i'm sorry, i had no idea i had switched the names!  peace and love, hope that clears a few things up.  whew.
  jill certo <jillyc@hotmail.com> wrote:
>finally, i tried to contact a russell carter a few
>times, since i sent him a video tape after he offered
>to make me a copy of on the road to austin, the ig tv
>appearance tape, and now have not heard from him in
>over two weeks and am getting slightly worried.


not that any of you can answer this, so maybe i'm just thinking out loud.
but, um, what is russell carter doing making video boots? i've never heard
of professional artist management participating in the bootlegging of their
artists. and besides, i thought russell's official role was to be snarky
when dealing with the fanbase-- is he trying to make nice now?


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<p> howdy ya'll,
<p>ok, dig, i've received more than a few emails privately about this and i thought i'd just come onlist and clear things up cause it seems to be causing some disruption.  i made a typo the other day when commenting on a person, rs wicker, whom i sent a blank vhs tape to to make me a copy of the on the road to austin video.  but in that same email i was discussing russell carter and his idea to put up a madison wi date without the theater knowing about it.  in the process of doing this, obviously i was distracted, but i put russell carter where i should have put rs wicker.  so no, russell carter is *not* making money or even copies off/of the otrta video, it was my honest mistake, and i'm sorry, i had no idea i had switched the names!  peace and love, hope that clears a few things up.  whew.
<p>  <b><i>jill certo <jillyc@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:
<blockquote style="border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px"><br>>finally, i tried to contact a russell carter a few<br>>times, since i sent him a video tape after he offered<br>>to make me a copy of on the road to austin, the ig tv<br>>appearance tape, and now have not heard from him in<br>>over two weeks and am getting slightly worried.<br><br>not that any of you can answer this, so maybe i'm just thinking out loud. <br>but, um, what is russell carter doing making video boots? i've never heard <br>of professional artist management participating in the bootlegging of their <br>artists. and besides, i thought russell's official role was to be snarky <br>when dealing with the fanbase-- is he trying to make nice now?<br><br>_________________________________________________________________<br>join the world's largest e-mail service with msn hotmail. <br>http://www.hotmail.com<br></blockquote><br><br>peace and love,<br>~juliana<br><br>visit my website at: http://hometown.aol.com/julianaesmith/home.html<br><br>"and if in the end, we should go both our separate ways, i know the lessons i've learned here is worth it all."<p><br><hr size=1><b>do you yahoo!?</b><br>
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hi everyone, this is my first posting to the list! i was at the glasgow
show on 1st feb and it was truly amazing. i managed to take one piccie of
amy - it's pretty blurry because i turned the flash off. didn't get a clear
view of emily all night. anyway the piccie's at


http://www.photodog.co.uk/ig.htm


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well that's a wonderful picture!  better than any i've ever done.


peace
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for aizlewood, this is high praise - he is a musical male chauvinist pig. i
was there - he is talking rubbish - galileo was it's usual happy,
tongue-in-cheek self - and they did an encore (kid fears)! bliss!
peace,
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>what the __is this guy john aizlewood saying
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3/12/2002   echo lounge release party   atlanta   georgia
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i have 1 ticket for the catalyst concert in santa cruz available for face
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hi folks,


i've been out of touch for a few days due to an os upgrade on my computers,
and i apologize if i have not responded to any admin requests.  if you
emailed me in the past four days or so, please re-send your requests.


also, please remember to send your posts in plain text and to delete any
extraneous text.


lastly, i am gearing up to revise the ig faq.  to this end, i would like to
ask for questions about the girls, their music, related interests, etc that
you would like to have answered.  at this time, please limit yourself to one
question per person...i'll offer the opportunity again in the future.  send
your questions to jlucero@monmouth.com not to the list.


thank you.


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echo lounge the cd release tickets just went on sale only at  the echo
loungewebsite


www.echostatic.com/echolounge


good luck


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yep, they went on sale at 6pm on the nose surprisingly...you could tell because all of a sudden their server got sluggish!! woo hoo!!!!

"one occasion when you were drinking you call and asked me to the coast, but i was hell-bent on agony back then, so i missed the boat....."  a. ray, starkville
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hkf!! i just scored my echo tickets!! woo hoo! who all is going? btw-- does anyone know where i could get tegan and sara tabs? for those who aren't familiar with them the are worth a look see! thanks in advance for any helpful 411! take care-- ashley


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yeah!!! got my tickets for the echo show at 6:03....

heather
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yep, they went on sale at 6pm on the nose surprisingly...you could tell because all of a sudden their server got sluggish!! woo hoo!!!!

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i saw the scalpers were busy at work last night and know of two selling
bowery tickets that were ended. so if you see tix up there in one of the
regulated states, go ahead and report it. best to spell the policy out for
the ebay banned items team because they are often not the brightest bulb in
the pack. if anyone would like a copy of their ticket policy, i stored it on
my hard-drive. you can, of course, find it somewhere on their site.


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hi folks,


just wanted to clarify the question request...


i am interested in finding out what trivia and little-known facts the list
is curious about so that i can work some new material into the faq.


in other words, i did not mean to give the impression i was going to act as
an intermediary between amy, emily, russell, sully, or any other band/crew
members and the list.


sorry for the confusion!


remember - please only ask one question in this round.


thanks.


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yes, i am nuts...


... but i decided to fly down to atlanta for the show!


anyway, thanks to a friend, i got my tickets.  i just wanted to share my
excitement!


question for people from atlanta:  how do i get from the airport to the echo
lounge?  and where would you reccommend staying?  (preferably somewhere
between the airport and the venue).  i only have one night, and will have to
rush around once i land.


thanks!


:-) karen


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yes, i am nuts...

... but i decided to fly down to atlanta for the show!

anyway, thanks to a friend, i got my tickets.  i just wanted to share my excitement!

question for people from atlanta:  how do i get from the airport to the echo lounge?  and where would you reccommend staying?  (preferably somewhere between the airport and the venue).  i only have one night, and will have to rush around once i land.

thanks!

:-) karen

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help.  i need a ticket for the austin show.  already got the plane ticket.
still need the concert ticket.  willing to pay above face, but not
exorbinantly so.  please email with any leads.  many thanks.


lauren


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help.  i need a ticket for the austin show.  already got the plane ticket.  still need the concert ticket.  willing to pay above face, but not exorbinantly so.  please email with any leads.  many thanks.

lauren

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yikes!!!


  they placed an ad in creative loafing (which comes out on wednesday evening)
that said tickets go on sale 2/6/02 at 6pm only at the echo lounge website.
that's why it sold out so quick.  the echo lounge is such a small venue for ig
to play -- amy and the butchies playing there is one thing, but ig having their
cd release show there is crazy.  (especially since i didn't get a ticket!)


  any word on whether the 2/25 atlanta date is legit?  there was never a venue
listed to go along with that.  eddie's attic shows its usual "open mic night"
monday bill.  the tabernacle has that date open.  so does variety playhouse.


  oh, well.  here's hoping.


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hey karen...the echo lounge is not that far via the interstate from the airport...but i wouldn't recommend staying anywhere around the venue.  that part of town is not the best, to say the least.  if i were you, i'd probably stay somewhere around the airport (which sometimes isn't the best part of town either, depending upon which hotel)  e-mail me off the list and i'll give you directions and let you know the best places to stay)  :)


heather

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>
> ... but i decided to fly down to atlanta for the show!
>
> anyway, thanks to a friend, i got my tickets.  i just wanted to share my excitement!
>
> question for people from atlanta:  how do i get from the airport to the echo lounge?  and where would you reccommend staying?  (preferably somewhere between the airport and the venue).  i only have one night, and will have to rush around once i land.
>
> thanks!
>
> :-) karen
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<br />
<br />
there is a possibility that our group will have some extra tickets for this show... <br />
<br />
if you are interested please e-mail me privately and let me know why you wanna come to the echo... <br />
<br />
d:) <br />
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>so no, russell carter is *not* making money or even >copies off/of the otrta video, it was my honest >mistake, and i'm sorry, i had no idea i had switched >the names!  peace and love, hope that clears a few >things up.  whew.


in the interest of full disclosure, i'm not making money off of this boot offer either! what is this, ebay?


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is anyone on the list planning to see voices on the verge tonight in
eugene, or?


if so, care to meet up? i'll be driving down from corvallis.


-bon


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do you guys know anyone that has a spare dallas ticket?
i also have a friend in ma looking for two tickets for that sold out show.


if anyone has any information on how i can get tickets to these events
please write me at venussage@yahoo.com.


thanks!


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ryan wrote:
>
>i saw the scalpers were busy at work last night and know of two selling
>bowery tickets that were ended. so if you see tix up there in one of the
>regulated states, go ahead and report it. best to spell the policy out for
>the ebay banned items team because they are often not the brightest bulb in
>the pack. if anyone would like a copy of their ticket policy, i stored it
>on
>my hard-drive. you can, of course, find it somewhere on their site.
>
>ryan


yeah! and while you're at it, get in your car and round up all the 19 year
olds drinking alcohol, all of the people of any age smoking dope, and all of
the businessmen paying politicians to do their bidding! but why stop there?
there are 15 year olds attending catholic high school who use birth control
(gasp), women getting abortions in afghanistan (shriek), and gay people
practicing illegal acts all over the country! get out there and stomp out
illegal behavior, people! because god forbid anyone should do something
illegal just to make a buck, get high, get laid, or get ahead in life!


in case you can't tell, i think the 'stop the scalpers' crusade is a bit
ridiculous. i've never scalped tickets on ebay, but i can't blame anyone who
does...if you bid $300, that's your business, imo. this whole 'waaaah, it's
not fair, i didn't get tickets' thing is just silly. and fighting it is like
denying this is how the world works. and let's not say "we're doing this
because it's illegal!", because many (i would argue most?) of us do
'illegal' things every day in our cars, homes, bars, and in our sex lives.
in short, let's not be hypocrites. and, let's acknowledge that 'illegal' and
'wrong/immoral' can be and are two very different things.


susan
(who just bought an advanced copy of become you. even tho it's
'illegal'.flame away, i won't answer.)

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considering i got my tickets and don't have any intention of seeing them
anywhere else but in seattle, your assumptions of my intentions are flat out
wrong and you prove just why one should never assume.


i consider scalping ig tickets in the same vein as selling bootleg cd-rs. it
is stealing from them! do you think the people doing this are going to go
ahead and send them their percentage on the overage? and as far as just
getting ahead in life? yeah, i am sure that's all lay, fastow and skilling
were doing too as they drove enron out of business and wiped out the life
savings of thousands of employees.


ryan


> -----original message-----
> from: indigo girls mailing list
> [mailto:indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org]on behalf of susan marine


>
> in case you can't tell, i think the 'stop the scalpers' crusade is a bit
> ridiculous. i've never scalped tickets on ebay, but i can't blame
> anyone who
> does...if you bid $300, that's your business, imo. this whole
> 'waaaah, it's
> not fair, i didn't get tickets' thing is just silly. and fighting
> it is like
> denying this is how the world works. and let's not say "we're doing this
> because it's illegal!", because many (i would argue most?) of us do
> 'illegal' things every day in our cars, homes, bars, and in our sex lives.
> in short, let's not be hypocrites. and, let's acknowledge that
> 'illegal' and
> 'wrong/immoral' can be and are two very different things.
>
> susan
> (who just bought an advanced copy of become you. even tho it's
> 'illegal'.flame away, i won't answer.)
>
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"i consider scalping ig tickets in the same vein as
selling bootleg cd-rs."


i agree with that.  hippie influence, beware:  we
cannot scalp tix's or sell illegal bootlegs because
that is indeed stealing money out of the artists
pocket.  we can not do this because it takes away from
the "scene".  and we cannot do this b/c we are the
ones that make the "scene" and we are the ones that
will make it survive.  i think each of us can do our
part which will not fix it completely, ever, but it
will always make it better and make the scene prosper.
(we could have us a high time, living the good
life...)  and what the heck is an enron?


say no to scalpers - that's what i do and there's
always ways to find tix's.  here's tm tips (sort of
related):
http://www.fivehorizons.com/tour/98/roadtrip/tickets1.shtml
http://www.albabe.com/tips.htm


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--- ryan blackhawke <ryan@hawke2.com> wrote:
> considering i got my tickets and don't have any
> intention of seeing them
> anywhere else but in seattle, your assumptions of my
> intentions are flat out
> wrong and you prove just why one should never
> assume.
>
> i consider scalping ig tickets in the same vein as
> selling bootleg cd-rs. it
> is stealing from them! do you think the people doing
> this are going to go
> ahead and send them their percentage on the overage?
> and as far as just
> getting ahead in life? yeah, i am sure that's all
> lay, fastow and skilling
> were doing too as they drove enron out of business
> and wiped out the life
> savings of thousands of employees.
>
> ryan


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don't get me wrong, i'm not a huge fan of scalpers.  people who buy
up large portions of seats for a concert they have no intention of
going to i find more wasteful than anything else.  its also annoying
that they drive up the average cost of attendance for the actual
fans, especially when a&e have worked hard to keep attendance costs
low (remember the $10 tour, the hs tour, etc...)


however, the analogies below are... um... flawed.


first, the scalper is not stealing from a&e (they got their money up
front, at their asking price, by way of their appearance fee and take
of the house), nor from the house (the house sold out the show at the
price they were asking, should be happy).  if there is stealing going
on, they are doing it from the people who buy the tickets from the
scalper, but as these folks are purchasing voluntarily (no guns
involved) so is that stealing?


not to mention, if free markets work (please no flames lets not start
any imf discussions), scalping should be happening for a very small
percent of the house.  why?  if the girls felt the market could bear
it, they'd raise their appearance fee.  and the house knowing that
they would be 2x oversubscribed at low prices should raise them so
they would just barely sell-out to maximize revenue.  the scalper is
left selling to those nuts (much like ourselves) who would pay huge
prices to get in, catch emily's pick,  get amy's sweat on them, etc.
a fairly small percent of the overall market.


by the way the scalper takes a pretty big risk (what if the show
doesn't sell out, what if they can't find enough fans, what if i get
busted and can't sell my perishable inventory?). like most things in
the underground economy, its a tough business.  what do you think the
average return on investment is for scalped tickets?


think all of this is... um... flawed?  what do you think would happen
to the scalper market if ticket face values were $1000 in a 3000 seat
venue?  what about $1000 a seat in your living room?


bootleg cd-rs on the other hand do take money from a&e as there is no
limit to the number of "attendees" as for a concert.  each cd-r is a
cd that ig does not sell and a royalty they do not collect.  however
the market seems to have worked the differences out for itself.
maybe you've noticed that unlike concert tickets bootlegs do not sell
for $20 when you can buy the cd for $13.


finally, if you find me a single scalper with a off-shore partnership
to hide debt from their balance sheets i'll be shocked.  if you
further find that they were public and had their books (badly)
audited by a big 5 accounting firm i'll buy you that $1000 ticket and
you can enjoy amy's sweat.


astronomer turned business consultant, but still a fan.


chris


>considering i got my tickets and don't have any intention of seeing them
>anywhere else but in seattle, your assumptions of my intentions are flat out
>wrong and you prove just why one should never assume.
>
>i consider scalping ig tickets in the same vein as selling bootleg cd-rs. it
>is stealing from them! do you think the people doing this are going to go
>ahead and send them their percentage on the overage? and as far as just
>getting ahead in life? yeah, i am sure that's all lay, fastow and skilling
>were doing too as they drove enron out of business and wiped out the life
>savings of thousands of employees.
>
>ryan
>
>  > -----original message-----
>  > from: indigo girls mailing list
>  > [mailto:indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org]on behalf of susan marine
>
>  >
>  > in case you can't tell, i think the 'stop the scalpers' crusade is a bit
>  > ridiculous. i've never scalped tickets on ebay, but i can't blame
>  > anyone who
>  > does...if you bid $300, that's your business, imo. this whole
>  > 'waaaah, it's
>  > not fair, i didn't get tickets' thing is just silly. and fighting
>  > it is like
>  > denying this is how the world works. and let's not say "we're doing this
>  > because it's illegal!", because many (i would argue most?) of us do
>  > 'illegal' things every day in our cars, homes, bars, and in our sex lives.
>  > in short, let's not be hypocrites. and, let's acknowledge that
>  > 'illegal' and
>  > 'wrong/immoral' can be and are two very different things.
>  >
>  > susan
>  > (who just bought an advanced copy of become you. even tho it's
>  'illegal'.flame away, i won't answer.)
>


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i kind of find myself in limbo about this whole subject. i think that it
sucks when a fan can't get into the show especially when they may have
put forth the effort to get tickets when they first went on sale. i
guess thats why i didn't buy the 6 ticket limit yesterday for the echo
lounge even though i could have. i think its best coming from  artists
like ian mackaye of fugazi who repeated shows disdain for scalpers but
he doesn't know how to prevent it or what to do about it. and for him
its clearly not about the money. its about the fans.


in most cases you and i get scalped every time we buy tickets through
ticketmaster. i am firm believer that nothing will ever be done about
ticketmaster. here is a nice little write-up that i found on the
billions website. billions is an artist management/booking group that
have mostly indie-r type groups on their roster. anyway, here are some
cold hard facts about the ticket industry. i thought it was interesting
to see who the initial scalper is. anyway, i thought some of you might
enjoy. but lets not get too carried away threading this one. this comes
straight from the billions website(www.billions.com):


because we're always astonished at the willingness of fans to pay
ever-mounting and exorbitant "convenience" fees to ticketmaster, we feel
obliged to point out that there are often alternatives available. here
are a couple of examples:


1) if you were to purchase a pair of tickets to the november 2 stephen
malkmus and the jicks show at the vic theatre in chicago online from
ticketmaster, you would be charged $33.00 (face value of two tickets) +
$10.50 ("convenience" fee for two tickets) + $0.32 (tax on two tickets)
+ $3.75 (handling fee) for a grand total of $47.57. those same tickets
could be purchased directly from the box office at the vic theatre for
only $33.00, the actual face value! using ticketmaster adds a whopping
44% to the cost of the tickets and not one thin dime of that excess goes
to stephen malkmus.


2) if you planned on attending the october 21 blonde redhead show at
the el rey theatre in los angeles and purchased tickets online from
ticketmaster, you would be charged $30.00 (face value of two tickets) +
$10.00 ("convenience" fee for two tickets) + $3.30 (handling fee) for a
grand total of $43.30. those same tickets could be purchased just as
"conveniently" online from the venue's website at www.theelrey.com for a
total of $35.00 (face value + $2.50 per ticket for handling). using
ticketmaster offers no additional convenience and adds almost 24% to the
cost of the tickets. none of that money, of course, goes to blonde redhead.


you should also be aware that, in addition to all of this direct
gouging of the fans, ticketmaster also takes a percentage of the gross
ticket sales from the promoter, usually 3% to 4%. that's right - they
charge the consumer to use their service and also charge the promoters
who provide them with the only thing they have to sell, tickets. what a racket.


we here at billions often go out of our way to ensure that fans have
access to at least one outlet where tickets can be purchased free of
ticketmaster charges. that location is usually the box office of the
venue where the show is scheduled. until more people start to take
advantage of this option, ticketmaster will continue to test the limits
of the public's willingness to accept more and more of their abusive and
wholly unnecessary pricing. the next time you're tempted to blame
artists for increasing ticket prices, take a good look at who is really
behind much of the increase. amazingly enough, ticketmaster's fee
structures sometimes result in them earning more money from a
performance than both the artist giving it and the promoter who took a
risk to present it. think about that for a minute. next time, please
consider saving yourself some money and helping more of your ticket
dollar get to the artists you support by purchasing your tickets from
anyone other than ticketmaster whenever possible.


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<<not to mention, if free markets work (please no flames lets not start
any imf discussions), scalping should be happening for a very small
percent of the house.  why?  if the girls felt the market could bear
it, they'd raise their appearance fee.>>


it's obvious the indigo girls knew this tour would sell out fast and there
would be a ton of disappointed fans (die-hard and casual). and that's the
whole point of the excercise. it's a preview tour, not a proper show - the
whole idea of the exercise being to generate a buzz over their new album
(and anything containing a smooth jazz sax solo ain't worth making a buzz
over, if you ask me) and boost initial album sales.


sold out club shows = mucho album buzz.


the limited edition bonus cd(s) are part of that 'get as many album sales as
we can in the first week' marketing strategy.


and i'll bet there'll be some disappointed folks who turn up to the show and
realize that half of it is listening to a cd.


as far as scalping goes, my ticketmaster charges were more than the 25% over
face value allowed by law, so...


neil
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sorry to the other 678 of you.. juliana-i-don't-know-your-last-name
(monkeemaidjules?), could you please email me?


jill


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howdy ya'll,


r. scott says in defense of himself:


subcityii@aol.com wrote: >so no, russell carter is
*not* making money or even >copies off/of the otrta
video, it was my honest >mistake, and i'm sorry, i had
no idea i had switched >the names! peace and love,
hope that clears a few >things up. whew.


in the interest of full disclosure, i'm not making
money off of this boot offer either! what is this,
ebay?r. scott wicker>>


no, i was never intending to say that rs was makin'
money either, it was simply the case that jill i
believe asked if russell carter was so i wanted to
make it clear that as far as i know he wasn't!  sorry!
rs is a good fella, i assure you!  peace and love!


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in a message dated 2/7/02 4:37:42 pm eastern standard time, neil@andineil.com
writes:

> it's obvious the indigo girls knew this tour would sell out fast and there
> would be a ton of disappointed fans (die-hard and casual). and that's the
> whole point of the exercise. it's a preview tour, not a proper show - the
> whole idea of the exercise being to generate a buzz over their new album
> (and anything containing a smooth jazz sax solo ain't worth making a buzz
> over, if you ask me) and boost initial album sales.

ahhhhh neil... our voice of reason.


it's impossible to be upset at it now.


that was cool.  i liked following this thread.


...my review on it goes like this.....


susan marie comes in hard and strong basically calling ryan a cry baby tree
hugging hippie idealist who is still neck deep in acid tripping innocence. i
like the no tolerance approach.


way to toss this one in there face susan;   "because god forbid anyone should
do something illegal just to make a buck, get high, get laid, or get ahead in
life"


10 points are to be rewarded at once.... any time a woman uses getting laid
as a catalyst to breaking the law i give an immediate 10 points!

my favorite was how she made the distinction between "illegal" and
"wrong/immoral".


one of my favorite rhetoric's. just because judge judy says drinking a 5th of
jack daniels is ok, but smoking a joint is punishable by castration, does not
mean that hitting the pipe, roasting some bud, puffing on a fatty or rolling
up a nice spliff is any way shape or form remotely close to anywhere near
half way to being wrong!


good job susan.

but then ryan..... and this is the beauty of it all... ryan who starts off as
the ghandi of the mailing list. "we must stop scalping".... dude, not for
nothing but the only thing that is going to stop scalping is a colossal
meteorite plummeting to earth and into a nuclear reactor.... but, still, even
with the dream and faced with a list wide flame from susan almost trying to
emasculate him.... he come back and responds to what we all know is my
favorite line;


"because god forbid anyone should do something illegal just to make a buck,
get high, get laid, or get ahead in life"


10 points!!!!


ryan... to that comes back and says; "and as far as just
getting ahead in life? yeah, i am sure that's all lay, fastow and skilling
were doing too as they drove enron out of business and wiped out the life
savings of thousands of employees."


gooooaaaalllllll!!!!!!!


damn!!!! good job buddy.


way to site precedent!


i salute you both for an excellent display of emotional jettison.


and once again... neil, way to sum up the whole no tickets available thing.


catch ya later kf's


joe,
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in a message dated 2/7/02 4:37:42 pm eastern standard time, neil@andineil.com writes:

it's obvious the indigo girls knew this tour would sell out fast and there
would be a ton of disappointed fans (die-hard and casual). and that's the
whole point of the exercise. it's a preview tour, not a proper show - the
whole idea of the exercise being to generate a buzz over their new album
(and anything containing a smooth jazz sax solo ain't worth making a buzz
over, if you ask me) and boost initial album sales.

ahhhhh neil... our voice of reason.

it's impossible to be upset at it now.

that was cool.  i liked following this thread.

...my review on it goes like this.....

susan marie comes in hard and strong basically calling ryan a cry baby tree hugging hippie idealist who is still neck deep in acid tripping innocence. i like the no tolerance approach.

way to toss this one in there face susan;   "because god forbid anyone should do something illegal just to make a buck, get high, get laid, or get ahead in life"

10 points are to be rewarded at once.... any time a woman uses getting laid as a catalyst to breaking the law i give an immediate 10 points!


my favorite was how she made the distinction between "illegal" and "wrong/immoral".

one of my favorite rhetoric's. just because judge judy says drinking a 5th of jack daniels is ok, but smoking a joint is punishable by castration, does not mean that hitting the pipe, roasting some bud, puffing on a fatty or rolling up a nice spliff is any way shape or form remotely close to anywhere near half way to being wrong!

good job susan.


but then ryan..... and this is the beauty of it all... ryan who starts off as the ghandi of the mailing list. "we must stop scalping".... dude, not for nothing but the only thing that is going to stop scalping is a colossal meteorite plummeting to earth and into a nuclear reactor.... but, still, even with the dream and faced with a list wide flame from susan almost trying to emasculate him.... he come back and responds to what we all know is my favorite line;

"because god forbid anyone should do something illegal just to make a buck, get high, get laid, or get ahead in life"

10 points!!!!

ryan... to that comes back and says; "and as far as just
getting ahead in life? yeah, i am sure that's all lay, fastow and skilling
were doing too as they drove enron out of business and wiped out the life
savings of thousands of employees."

gooooaaaalllllll!!!!!!!

damn!!!! good job buddy.

way to site precedent!

i salute you both for an excellent display of emotional jettison.

and once again... neil, way to sum up the whole no tickets available thing.

catch ya later kf's

joe,
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in a message dated 2/7/02 4:37:42 pm eastern standard time, neil@andineil.com
writes:

> it's obvious the indigo girls knew this tour would sell out fast and there
> would be a ton of disappointed fans (die-hard and casual). and that's the
> whole point of the exercise. it's a preview tour, not a proper show - the
> whole idea of the exercise being to generate a buzz over their new album
> (and anything containing a smooth jazz sax solo ain't worth making a buzz
> over, if you ask me) and boost initial album sales.

ahhhhh neil... our voice of reason.


it's impossible to be upset at it now.


that was cool.  i liked following this thread.


...my review on it goes like this.....


susan marie comes in hard and strong basically calling ryan a cry baby tree
hugging hippie idealist who is still neck deep in acid tripping innocence. i
like the no tolerance approach.


way to toss this one in there face susan;   "because god forbid anyone should
do something illegal just to make a buck, get high, get laid, or get ahead in
life"


10 points are to be rewarded at once.... any time a woman uses getting laid
as a catalyst to breaking the law i give an immediate 10 points!

my favorite was how she made the distinction between "illegal" and
"wrong/immoral".


one of my favorite rhetoric's. just because judge judy says drinking a 5th of
jack daniels is ok, but smoking a joint is punishable by castration, does not
mean that hitting the pipe, roasting some bud, puffing on a fatty or rolling
up a nice spliff is any way shape or form remotely close to anywhere near
half way to being wrong!


good job susan.

but then ryan..... and this is the beauty of it all... ryan who starts off as
the ghandi of the mailing list. "we must stop scalping".... dude, not for
nothing but the only thing that is going to stop scalping is a colossal
meteorite plummeting to earth and into a nuclear reactor.... but, still, even
with the dream and faced with a list wide flame from susan almost trying to
emasculate him.... he come back and responds to what we all know is my
favorite line;


"because god forbid anyone should do something illegal just to make a buck,
get high, get laid, or get ahead in life"


10 points!!!!


ryan... to that comes back and says; "and as far as just
getting ahead in life? yeah, i am sure that's all lay, fastow and skilling
were doing too as they drove enron out of business and wiped out the life
savings of thousands of employees."


gooooaaaalllllll!!!!!!!


damn!!!! good job buddy.


way to site precedent!


i salute you both for an excellent display of emotional jettison.


and once again... neil, way to sum up the whole no tickets available thing.


catch ya later kf's


joe,
manhattan,ny

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in a message dated 2/7/02 4:37:42 pm eastern standard time, neil@andineil.com writes:

it's obvious the indigo girls knew this tour would sell out fast and there
would be a ton of disappointed fans (die-hard and casual). and that's the
whole point of the exercise. it's a preview tour, not a proper show - the
whole idea of the exercise being to generate a buzz over their new album
(and anything containing a smooth jazz sax solo ain't worth making a buzz
over, if you ask me) and boost initial album sales.

ahhhhh neil... our voice of reason.

it's impossible to be upset at it now.

that was cool.  i liked following this thread.

...my review on it goes like this.....

susan marie comes in hard and strong basically calling ryan a cry baby tree hugging hippie idealist who is still neck deep in acid tripping innocence. i like the no tolerance approach.

way to toss this one in there face susan;   "because god forbid anyone should do something illegal just to make a buck, get high, get laid, or get ahead in life"

10 points are to be rewarded at once.... any time a woman uses getting laid as a catalyst to breaking the law i give an immediate 10 points!


my favorite was how she made the distinction between "illegal" and "wrong/immoral".

one of my favorite rhetoric's. just because judge judy says drinking a 5th of jack daniels is ok, but smoking a joint is punishable by castration, does not mean that hitting the pipe, roasting some bud, puffing on a fatty or rolling up a nice spliff is any way shape or form remotely close to anywhere near half way to being wrong!

good job susan.


but then ryan..... and this is the beauty of it all... ryan who starts off as the ghandi of the mailing list. "we must stop scalping".... dude, not for nothing but the only thing that is going to stop scalping is a colossal meteorite plummeting to earth and into a nuclear reactor.... but, still, even with the dream and faced with a list wide flame from susan almost trying to emasculate him.... he come back and responds to what we all know is my favorite line;

"because god forbid anyone should do something illegal just to make a buck, get high, get laid, or get ahead in life"

10 points!!!!

ryan... to that comes back and says; "and as far as just
getting ahead in life? yeah, i am sure that's all lay, fastow and skilling
were doing too as they drove enron out of business and wiped out the life
savings of thousands of employees."

gooooaaaalllllll!!!!!!!

damn!!!! good job buddy.

way to site precedent!

i salute you both for an excellent display of emotional jettison.

and once again... neil, way to sum up the whole no tickets available thing.

catch ya later kf's

joe,
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> in a message dated 2/7/02 4:37:42 pm eastern standard time,
> neil@andineil.com writes:
>
>
>
>> it's obvious the indigo girls knew this tour would sell out fast and
>> there
>> would be a ton of disappointed fans (die-hard and casual). and
>> that's the
>> whole point of the exercise. it's a preview tour, not a proper show
>> - the
>> whole idea of the exercise being to generate a buzz over their new
>> album
>> (and anything containing a smooth jazz sax solo ain't worth making a
>> buzz
>> over, if you ask me) and boost initial album sales.
>


was anyone told that these were special preview shows when they bought
their tickets?
i new from the list, but here was nothing about this when i bought
mine.  i have a feeling there's going to be some confused/dissapointed
people at some of these shows.

> (and anything containing a smooth jazz sax solo ain't worth making a buzz
>
> over, if you ask me)
>


so i'm not the only one who doesn't like that solo?  ;-)  would one
electric guitar solo have killed them?


diane

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in a message dated 2/7/02 4:37:42 pm eastern standard time, neil@andineil.com writes:
  
  
it's obvious the indigo girls knew this tour would sell out fast and there
would be a ton of disappointed fans (die-hard and casual). and that's the
whole point of the exercise. it's a preview tour, not a proper show - the
whole idea of the exercise being to generate a buzz over their new album
(and anything containing a smooth jazz sax solo ain't worth making a buzz
over, if you ask me) and boost initial album sales.

was anyone told that these were special preview shows when they bought their tickets?
i new from the list, but here was nothing about this when i bought mine.  i have a feeling there's going to be some confused/dissapointed people at some of these shows.
  

(and anything containing a smooth jazz sax solo ain't worth making a buzz
over, if you ask me)

so i'm not the only one who doesn't like that solo?  ;-)  would one electric guitar solo have killed them?

diane


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i think the solo in "moment of forgiveness" is electric guitar.


>> (and anything containing a smooth jazz sax solo ain't worth making a buzz
>>
>> over, if you ask me)
>>
>
> so i'm not the only one who doesn't like that solo?  ;-)  would one
> electric guitar solo have killed them?
>
> diane
>


also, anyone notice that the last 4 songs don't have any intertwining
countermelodies?  just straight harmonies.


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>also, anyone notice that the last 4 songs don't have any >intertwining countermelodies?  just straight harmonies


also, does anyone else think there's an inordinately high number of sub-par emily songs on the album?


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read the liner notes, kids. fabulous saxophone courtesy of none other than kennyg. <br />
<br />
can't wait for the muzak version! <br />
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det. munch <br />
<br />
> whole point of the excercise. it's a preview tour, not a proper show - <br />
> the <br />
> whole idea of the exercise being to generate a buzz over their new album <br />
> (and anything containing a smooth jazz sax solo ain't worth making a buzz <br />
> over, if you ask me) and boost initial album sales. <br />
>  <br />
> sold out club shows = mucho album buzz. <br />
<br />
<br />
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> but then ryan..... and this is the beauty of it all... ryan who starts off
as the > ghandi of the mailing list.


uh, i would never proclaim myself to be any sort of ghandi. i like violence
too much.


> but, still, even with the dream and faced with a list wide flame from
susan almost
> trying to emasculate him.... he come back and responds to what we all know
is my
> favorite line;


how can i be emasculated since i am a woman?


"because god forbid anyone should do something illegal just to make a buck,
get high, get laid, or get ahead in life"


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wow!!!! ryan is a woman!?


cool. i love names like that ;


jaimie, chris, toni....


you are the first female ryan i have ever met...


anyone else as surprised as i?


joe
manhattan,ny


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wow!!!! ryan is a woman!?

cool. i love names like that ;

jaimie, chris, toni....

you are the first female ryan i have ever met...

anyone else as surprised as i?

joe
manhattan,ny

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