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date: thu, 7 feb 2002 21:05:46 -0800
reply-to: mandy <sister_fortunate_one@yahoo.com>
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the official site has posted two more shots for the by shoot, including the
picture from which the mof single cover was taken. you can kind of see why they
cropped it; amy's hand looks all weird.
my life is so exciting.
mandy,
thinking that sometimes good things do come with smooth jazz sax solos.
occasionally.


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date: fri, 8 feb 2002 00:37:39 -0500
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hey y'all!
great to be back after a long ig drought (2 whole weeks!!!). and thanks to
the handful of listees who sent emails and calls of concern - it is truly
amazing how some of the folks on this list imbibe more than just the
harmonies a&e sing about humankind and do try to make the world a better
place. <gush> thank you!!!!!
okay, now that i'm back on my feet, i know there are some of you out there
that i owe boots to. unfortunately, i no longer have any of those folks'
information (mailing address, boot information, trades, etc.). sooooo, if
you are one of these people, please drop me a line and i will get your boots
out before week end.
peace,
joey (who loves become you, particularly b/c of the sax solo, not in spite
of it - it shows musical growth people c'mon!)
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date: fri, 8 feb 2002 04:44:03 -0500
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hey y'all-
the webcast of the future of music coalition conference that took place
here in dc on 1/7-8 will finally be available for your viewing pleasure
from feb. 11- 13 at: <http://www.on-the-i.tv/fmc2002/index.html>
the focus of the fmc conference generally was to foster discussion
between various segments of the music industry about copyright issues,
artists' rights and the impact of digital technology on the future of
music distribution. amy ray was a participant on the "new models" panel
(panel #10), hosted by jenny toomey, which- according to the
abovementioned link- looks like it will be webcast on 2/13 at noon
(est, i think). this panel highlighted alternatives to the major label
quid pro quo for methods of artist management, music distribution, and
organizing and running record labels. as a layperson and music industry
outsider, the discussion was thought-provoking, respectful, and very
accessible, so check it out if you're interested. however, if you
aren't going to be available during the scheduled webcast, i *believe*
that the whole conference is eventually going to be archived on the
fmc's website at <http://futureofmusic.org/> (a very informative and
impressive collection of resources related to current topics/debates in
the music industry, and very worthy of perusing in its own right, if
you get a chance!!!).
enjoy-
marian
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date: fri, 8 feb 2002 06:55:45 -0600
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i love everthing about this album. :o)
traci
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date: fri, 8 feb 2002 07:04:50 -0600
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i can't spell either oops :o(
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i love everthing about this album. :o)
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date: fri, 8 feb 2002 05:35:07 -0800
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> also, does anyone else think there's an
> inordinately high number of sub-par emily songs
> on the album?
absolutely. a couple with high emotion, but it
seems like emily rehashes old ideas as of late...
which is why a couple songs sound really a lot
like "andy" - same melodies, counterpoints, etc.
still good songs, but i'm disappointed that they
announced 'an acoustic' album, and there are no
long strange-fire-ish acoustic solos like the old
days. it's not an acoustic record as much as a
non-electric one. and lots of orchestral
background.
but - this album is very mainstream and could
easily have quite a few radio hits on it. maybe
that was a small goal - some mainstream
commercial success at the end of their epic era.
don't get me wrong though, it's a really good
record, and i enjoyed it very much on a first
listen. amy's hootenany songs are a blast. it
seems like after all these years, amy is still
the driving force, and at this point, emily is
somewhat going through the motions. but hey, i
would too if i had a long term relationship and a
restaurant business, and had been playing closer
to fine for almost 15 years. can you imagine,
over the course of their career, how many times
they must have had to play that damn song?
anyhow... this has gone on far too long, so i'll
just end with - most of you will really like this
record, but don't expect a return to the old
days, because this isn't one.
tara
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date: fri, 8 feb 2002 08:06:01 -0600
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actually, a while ago ryan sent a link to her web site. that was when i
discovered the truth. and i agree with you joe, ryan is a cool name for a
woman. joe could go either way too ya know.
anyway, interesting thread. also nice to see that the flames were kept to a
minimum.
happy friday everyone!!
ahhhh, tickets go on sale in 1 hour and 50 minutes. can't wait!!
:)
mi rinda


wow!!!! ryan is a woman!?
cool. i love names like that ;
jaimie, chris, toni....
you are the first female ryan i have ever met...
anyone else as surprised as i?
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actually, a while ago ryan sent a link to her web site. that was when i discovered the truth. and i agree with you joe, ryan is a cool name for a woman. joe could go either way too ya know.
anyway, interesting thread. also nice to see that the flames were kept to a minimum.
happy friday everyone!!
ahhhh, tickets go on sale in 1 hour and 50 minutes. can't wait!!
:)
mi rinda

wow!!!! ryan is a woman!?

cool. i love names like that ;

jaimie, chris, toni....

you are the first female ryan i have ever met...

anyone else as surprised as i?

joe
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date: fri, 8 feb 2002 09:12:46 -0500
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<br />
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so... <br />
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say someone takes a day off work...drives 4 hours in the middle of the night...gets tickets for a show you can only get tickets for at the door...buys tickets for all their friends... <br />
and gets 2 extra... <br />
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why not sell them to someone who is willing to pay over face value and get back some of the money they lost by taking the day off work, getting gas...etc. <br />
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and everyone seems to be talking about the new cd...why not jump on the people that are selling that on e-bay...those folks are talking money from the girls because the record company isn't goign to pay for all the promos and many people that pay big $'s for promos aren't going to drop another $20. on a cd...and most promo cd's say right on them that they are not for resale...but in georgia where i live scalping is legal...just check out encoretickets.com and see how much other shows are going for around here... <br />
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i'd rather pay big $$$$$ to see the girls than the $250. they wanted for melissa ehteridge tickets when she was here. <br />
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d:) <br />
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date: fri, 8 feb 2002 11:08:54 est
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subject: minnesota tickets!
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did you all get your presale tickets today?
mi rinda and i got ours!!! :)
minnesota here we (or i... mi rinda is already there!) come!
:-) karen
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"my regrets become distractions" - amy ray
"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory" - emily saliers
become you, the new album by the indigo girls
in stores 12 march 2002
(glad i have a promo copy...)
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did you all get your presale tickets today?

mi rinda and i got ours!!! :)

minnesota here we (or i... mi rinda is already there!) come!

:-) karen

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"my regrets become distractions" - amy ray
"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory" - emily saliers
become you, the new album by the indigo girls
in stores 12 march 2002
(glad i have a promo copy...)
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date: fri, 8 feb 2002 12:06:33 est
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<< wow!!!! ryan is a woman!?
cool. i love names like that ;
jaimie, chris, toni....
you are the first female ryan i have ever met... >>
i agree, fabulous name!! ryan, you go girl! :)
oh, and how 'bout "dylan"? (my four year old daughter's name- named before
the drew barrymore character in "charlie's angels" ) a friend named her baby
girl "donovan"... my other new favorite name
just echoing the sentiment. :)
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<< wow!!!! ryan is a woman!?

cool. i love names like that ;

jaimie, chris, toni....

you are the first female ryan i have ever met... >>

i agree, fabulous name!! ryan, you go girl! :)

oh, and how 'bout "dylan"? (my four year old daughter's name- named before the drew barrymore character in "charlie's angels" ) a friend named her baby girl "donovan"... my other new favorite name

just echoing the sentiment. :)
d

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date: fri, 8 feb 2002 12:43:43 -0500
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what?!! please, you were kidding, right? oh say it ain't so.
i haven't heard the album yet. why? how? with respect to those who love
smooth jazz, i just have to say it really isn't for me. i mean really,
really really really isn't. and kenny g. is kind of the essence, the
symbol, the representative of all that is bad about it (to me - i'm just
speaking for myself. if you love it, that's ok, we can still be friends,
but we can't play kenny g on the cd player). how will i ever cope with
kenny g on an ig album? i will need therapy.
if they wanted to use a saxophone there are so many styles that work fine.
i play sax, i like saxophones, i think the girls could find ok ways to use
them if that's what they want to do. i loved hearing the funky saxes on
shed your skin in the live bumbershoot (i think) webcast last year. that
was very cool. but oh god i still can't accept it... kenny g? they won't
even need to be converted to elevator music for the next muzak compilation.
groan.
you know, kenny g is following me. i'm not paranoid - he is. he mocks me.
when i gave birth to my daughter last fall we ended up in a c-section and
somehow, somebody in the operating room put a kenny g cd on. my daughter
was born to kenny g! i didn't notice in time to stop it. all during labor
my nurse and my husband and i talked music. that was really fun (not the
labor part, mind you). then when my daughter was delivered the nurse came
over to bring us the baby and congratulate us - she said,
"congratulations!!" (this part loud) and "i'm sooo sorry about kenny g."
(this part whispering). my husband laughed and said he wondered when i was
going to realize that part. sigh. i accept it. he's a reality in my life
and i have to learn to be at least tolerant. maybe that's it. he's on an ig
album because the girls are forcing me to confront my nonacceptance of this
person and my problem with the way he is different from me. i will be a
better person when i accept kenny g. oh god, is that true? you can see
what turmoil this situation has caused for me. :)
well. at least i was warned. when i get the cd i will have had time to
prepare myself. i hope there's enough time!
-s.
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date: fri, 8 feb 2002 10:55:49 -0800
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"why not sell them to someone who is willing to pay over face value and get
back some of the money they lost by taking the day off work, getting
gas...etc."
it was your choice (general your) to take time off and go get tix.
therefore, i don't think compensation is warranted.
"and everyone seems to be talking about the new cd...why not jump on the
people that are selling that on e-bay...those folks are talking money from
the girls because the record company isn't goign to pay for all the promos
and many people that pay big $'s for promos aren't going to drop another
$20. on a cd..."
guess i'm not "many people" since had i won a promo, i had every intention
of having the official release in my grubby little paws on march 12 as well.
i buy a cd as much for the artwork sometimes. and i buy anything ig. i have
several copies of each of the releases for some reason. never had the radio
station release of anything.
"i'd rather pay big $$$$$ to see the girls than the $250. they wanted for
melissa ehteridge tickets when she was here."
i fully agree there. etheridge just doesn't do it for me now. in fact, i am
selling all my etheridge cd's and memorabilia on ebay (no mle stuff up now).
ryan


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joe, you are wiggedy
-and i mean wiggedy-
wiggedy wack.
*j
p.s. long live sus.

>gooooaaaalllllll!!!!!!!
>
>damn!!!! good job buddy.
>
>i salute you both for an excellent display of emotional jettison.

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hey ryan,
if you sell all your mle stuff on ebay are you going to give melissa her cut?
anyway, as the person who dee was referring to in her previous email, yes i did take a day off work,drive all night with a friend, and sleep on concrete to get tickets. and yes, i unloaded two extra tickets that i happened to have, on ebay. no i did not sell them for exhorbitant prices but rather started the bidding at face value to cover my costs. the guy that ended up winning them thanked me and insisted that my time and effort was worth $$ to him because while he could not get away long enough to attempt the same process that i did, i was able to and for that he was willing to pay me for my trouble. it would be no different if you offered your friend $50 to go get in line and get you a ticket if you couldn't be here.
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susan, re:
>>you know, kenny g is following me. i'm not paranoid - he is. he mocks me.>>
i know this is a tragic story, but i laughed my ass off. thanks for a well-written tribute to "the g."
:-)
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why is it that so many people on this list do not seem to care for emily's
music? you are indigo girls fans, right? or are you amy fans? i am what i
would call an emily person, does that mean i dislike amy's music, no way,
because above all, i am an indigo girls fan. i may like emily's music more
sometimes, maybe i like singing to it better, or what ever my personal
reasons are, but i would never disrespect amy because of that. they are
both talented artists and if they weren't so different, they would not have
such a following. the indigo girls are the indigo girls because of both amy
and emily. if you will recall, there are emily songs that fans want and
expect to hear at almost every show. it is tradition, we fans even have our
own lines to sing. you can't honestly tell me that any of you think that
the indigo girls exist on amy's talents alone. i don't know her, but i am
pretty sure that amy would never say or think that of emily. i am just
disappointed that anyone would even post such thoughts. emily is
unappreciated, but yet she strives to make her music, just like amy, they
both put their heart & soul into their work and i am sure that they have the
fans in mind a lot of the time. ig are always saying how special their fans
are. we are not here to say what they should write or how they should sing
it. if we truly love ig, we should at least "appreciate" every song whether
we love it or not, after all, they don't have to keep doing it.
sorry, but when the emily bashing starts, i tend to get a little pissed.
please no flames, just expressing my opinion like everyone else.
traci
also, try listening to some lyrics on a few emily songs, you might be amazed
at just how brilliant they are.
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susan brill wrote:
>but oh god i still can't accept it... kenny g? they won't
>even need to be converted to elevator music for the next muzak compilation.
>groan.
heh, this talk of kenny g reminds me of the time i went to a branford
marsalis concert. i invited an acquaintance because she had once been
in a jazz choir and i figured she'd probably enjoy the music. at one
point she leaned over and said, "he's not as good as kenny g." she
was being perfectly serious. i just about died right there.
maybe they're hoping it'll bump up sales when kenny g fans rush out
to buy the cd? maybe they're hoping it will get the song airplay on
the lite adult contemporary stations? i don't know, but i thought
they had better taste than that. (i don't have an advance copy of the
cd so i can't verify this isn't just a cruel hoax, grin.)
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well said traci! i agree with you 100%. emily is brilliant!
marci

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>
>why is it that so many people on this list do not seem to care for emily's
>music? you are indigo girls fans, right? or are you amy fans? i am what
>i
>would call an emily person, does that mean i dislike amy's music, no way,
>because above all, i am an indigo girls fan. i may like emily's music more
>sometimes, maybe i like singing to it better, or what ever my personal
>reasons are, but i would never disrespect amy because of that. they are
>both talented artists and if they weren't so different, they would not have
>such a following. the indigo girls are the indigo girls because of both
>amy
>and emily. if you will recall, there are emily songs that fans want and
>expect to hear at almost every show. it is tradition, we fans even have
>our
>own lines to sing. you can't honestly tell me that any of you think that
>the indigo girls exist on amy's talents alone. i don't know her, but i am
>pretty sure that amy would never say or think that of emily. i am just
>disappointed that anyone would even post such thoughts. emily is
>unappreciated, but yet she strives to make her music, just like amy, they
>both put their heart & soul into their work and i am sure that they have
>the
>fans in mind a lot of the time. ig are always saying how special their
>fans
>are. we are not here to say what they should write or how they should sing
>it. if we truly love ig, we should at least "appreciate" every song
>whether
>we love it or not, after all, they don't have to keep doing it.
>
>sorry, but when the emily bashing starts, i tend to get a little pissed.
>please no flames, just expressing my opinion like everyone else.
>
>traci
>
>also, try listening to some lyrics on a few emily songs, you might be
>amazed
>at just how brilliant they are.
>
>a+e=ig
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i don't think anyone said, word for word, that ig consists of mostly amy's
talents. i think what people were offering was constructive critism. i
wouldn't think of it as bashing.
melody

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hey hey - it's okay - i'm not 'bashing' emily or
her music at all. i love emily's writing. i
love it so much that i wrote myself a primer on
songwriting based on her use of metaphors so that
i could learn from it and apply it to my own
amateur songwriting attempts. i never meant to
be taken that i didn't think she was a brilliant
musician. and yes, in no way at all do i think
that the parts are greater than the sum of the
whole.
together, indigo girls are magic, but i don't
think anyone could dispute that their styles and
musical intentions have become more divergent
over the years. in the beginning, with the early
recordings, and sf and ctf, a&e's styles were
more totally merged and contiguous. now, they
are definitely records of 'amy songs' and 'emily
songs'. i was merely commenting on the fact that
their writing behaviors suggest that amy is still
way into the whole 'scene', whereas emily seems
to be interested in other things - and rightfully
so considering the turns her life has taken over
the last 5 years.
and as stated, i think the new record is great,
and i loved it on first listen. emily still has
lyrics that are brilliant and can rip your heart
out and show it to you. i think her writing is
truly a gift, both from the powers that be, and
to us as the lucky listeners; however, i also
know from experience that guitar solos are more
tedious, and time consuming to write, and fiddle
with and get just right, and that area is where i
sense emily possibly saying something like,
"yeah, this is where we'll have violins" or sax
solos, or piano solos, etc. because she's not
that into that part of the music anymore. maybe
i'm totally off, but that's just how it seems.
anyhow, just clarifying myself. i'm a huge emily
fan and hate to be misunderstood as being
anything else.
tara
--- traci drago <n_d_go_grl@hotmail.com> wrote:
> why is it that so many people on this list do
> not seem to care for emily's
> music?
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i am trying to find a way off the list but can not...can anyone help mer
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i also heard of stacy as a mans name....
there was a stacy who was a football player for the ny giants (go big blue
wrecking crew)
the ex-ceo of my company is a woman named andre,
saw a woman on tv named hank
someone pointed out to me that joe can go either way (the name that is)
lou, sam, although those are nick names....
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i also heard of stacy as a mans name....

there was a stacy who was a football player for the ny giants (go big blue wrecking crew)

the ex-ceo of my company is a woman named andre,

saw a woman on tv named hank

someone pointed out to me that joe can go either way (the name that is)

lou, sam, although those are nick names....

....yeah this can go on

joe
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<p> </p><p> <br><font size=3d2><b>></b></font><font face=3d"mo=
nospace,courier"> but i thought<br>they had better taste than that. (i don'=
t have an advance copy of the<br>cd so i can't verify this isn't just a cru=
el hoax, grin.)<br></font><br>lol - i am just thankful they didn't record w=
ith barry manilow! </p><p> (but i gotta give credit where credit is du=
e - both are extremely talented individuals - don't care for their music, b=
ut i will ackowledge the immense talent of each one)</p><p>elaine</p>=
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from another list (and indeed the original(?) owner of this here list steven
spencer)
(1) pre-order the album from 'amazon.com,' and get a bonus disc with:
(a) she's saving me (guitar and vocals only mix);
(b) starkville (guitar, vocals, harmonica only mix);
(c) laramie (from "stag")
(2) purchase at borders books & music (the store, not online) and get:
(a) our deliverance (guitars, mandolin and vocals only mix);
(b) everything in its own time (board mix from the atlanta ballet
performance at the fox in atlanta on october 20, 2001 matinee);
(c) johnny rottentail (from "stag")
(3) coalition of independent retail music stores - the website is
the-ird.com . you can go there and get a coupon for a limited edition
cd with the following three tracks:
(a) hope alone (without strings);
(b) bitterroot (bass, drums, vocals only mix);
(c) late bloom (from "stag")
the site lists all of the independent stores that are participating in
the program.

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if the new ellen show used to be one of the few
shows you used to make plans each week not to
miss, please go to cbs and tell them. cbs is
undecided on which shows will be cut as of may,
and i for one would like to see the ellen show
off the chopping block.
<http://www.cbs.com/info/user_services/info_sitemap.shtml>
go here and click on 'feedback', and tell them
what you think. i'm really disappointed in this.
i thought this new show was really funny.
tara
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so exactly how is it different to sell melissa's stuff on e-bay than it is for someone to sell tickets over face???? <br />
<br />
<br />
business 101... <br />
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supply and demand <br />
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'nuf said! <br />
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d:) <br />
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(come on let' me hear ya say it) << oh yeah for kenny g and the future
muzak album of the year!!>> let's hear it for (gasp) indigo girls with
kenny g !! (that's right.) crank up that elevator music and party!
;
;
;
;
;
;oh kenny g and jazz sax andy style on an ig album? oh gimme some more
syrup and sugar while you're at it."

peace
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actually, the record company pays for the promos
and distributes them. and, i guarantee you that
anyone who is so anxious to hear the new album
that they're willing to pay over $50 to get it a
few weeks early, is going to be the first person
in line to buy the official release when it comes
out.
--- dee yellowlees <tomboy1969@excite.com> wrote:
--->why not jump on the people that are selling
that on e-bay...those folks are talking money
from the girls because the record company isn't
goign to pay for all the promos and many people
that pay big $'s for promos aren't going to drop
another $20. on a cd
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from the new bio on the official website:
"saliers credit collins with offering "a vision for the songs that we didn't
have." from his suggestions came the hushed latin vibe of "you've got to
show" with a stan getz-inspired sax solo by dan
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hey loralei, check in the faq. i'm sure it says in there. i think-- this
is just a guess, but try it-- i think you send an email to
listserv@lists.netspace.org, and in the body, write
unsubscribe indigo-girls
if you want off completely. if you just want to temporarily unsub, email
that same address with the command
set indigo-girls nomail
in the body. hope this helps.
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i'm sure 95% of you got this already, but here you go anyways.
*j
>from: news@indigogirls.com
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>date: fri, 8 feb 2002 14:49:10 -0500
>
>february 8, 2002
>
>greetings - i want to give everyone an update on the availability of the
>extra "bonus" tracks that we have mentioned in the past. epic found that
>there is interest from several retailers for special gifts associated with
>pre-orders and purchases of the album so we developed three separate
>packages as follows:
>
>(1) amazon - for a limited time only, if you pre-order the album "become
>you" from amazon.com , you get a bonus cd with the following three tracks:
>(a) she's saving me (guitar and vocals only mix); (b) starkville (guitar,
>vocals, harmonica only mix); (c) laramie (from amy's solo record called
>"stag" on daemon records);
>
>(2) borders books & music - their site, borders.com , is serviced by
>amazon, so on line you get the same deal as described above for amazon.
>however, the borders stores will offer a separate bonus cd with the
>purchase of "become you" that contains the following material: (a) our
>deliverance (guitars, mandolin and vocals only mix); (b) everything in its
>own time (board mix from the atlanta ballet performance at the fox in
>atlanta on october 20, 2001 matinee); (c) johnny rottentail (from amy's
>solo record called "stag" on daemon records);
>
>(3) coalition of independent retail music stores - the website is
>the-ird.com . you can go there and get a coupon for a limited edition cd
>with the following three tracks: (a) hope alone (without strings); (b)
>bitterroot (bass, drums, vocals only mix); (c) late bloom (from amy's solo
>record called "stag" on daemon records). the site lists all of the
>independent stores that are participating in the program. the coupon will
>not be available until the week of the release.
>
>we are about to put a new sticker, a package of cool coasters and a limited
>edition promo tour t-shirt on our store site , so check out the new
>merchandise when you get a chance!
>
>five weeks and counting - - -become you- - - march 12th
>
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you go traci! you are one of the few that have true insight into ig!
and you say things with taste & knowledge! not like tara lane the know
it all "princess" with personal problems that she takes out on the rest
of the world -- and also just talks to sound big!!! too bad tara!!
sorry more on this list arent like you traci! traci is a true ig
fan!!!!! you go girl!!! lynn <flame on!>
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awe come on folks, let's not start a flame war,
hah? let's keep it respectful.
barb
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could someone please direct me to the adult ig email list. i didn't realize
i'd signed up for ig email for kindergarten brats.
>>you go traci! you are one of the few that have true insight into ig!
>> >>and you say things with taste & knowledge! not like tara lane the
>> >>know it all "princess" with personal problems that she takes out on
>> >>the rest of the world -- and also just talks to sound big!!! too bad
>> >>tara!! sorry more on this list arent like you traci! traci is a true
>> >>ig fan!!!!! you go girl!!! lynn <flame on!>

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love the list, keep up the good work. opinions are great.
1. amy and emily lose nothing with the selling of bootlegs because they
never intended to sell the live shows in the first place. how can they lose
something they never had? forget about intellectual rights. this probably
gives them more exposure anyway as a live band, which they clearly excel at.
if they would release full concerts of every tour (maybe a couple per -
could we be so lucky?) then i could see this being a problem, maybe. with
the internet and shn, downloads would not be that difficult to set up. its
being done all over now with the bootleg shows. obviously, copying the
official stuff is different. duh.
2. scalping tickets is bullshit. all of these people are in it to make a
buck at the expense of someone else. the true fan. its a business, ya, but
it still sucks and totally unfair. its unfortunate that nothing can be done
about it now. maybe when the technology is there.......some day.
3. from the reviews so far, i'm a little worried about my first listen of
the new tracks. clearly, the live versions from last year rocked, so i think
this is not that big a deal. the live shows will still be hot and raw. over
producing can destroy songs. fingers crossed.
4. what is up with 3 different bonus discs? they don't think that we should
buy three separate copies to get these tracks do they? do i sense a b-sides
vol 6?
5. amy and emily are both inspiring. in different ways. i clearly like amy's
tunes better. way better but believe me, without emily, she isn't her full
self. they need each other. in this case, the whole is much greater than the
individual parts.
and ya, they should have mentioned the pre-release shows where setup the way
they are for those not hitting the webpage. that is a bit deceiving. here's
hoping that the youngstown show is a full show. seems like it might be.
enough babble.
take care all. its going to be a fabulous summer.............
dave.
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selling a cd second-hand is not regulated in any state. ticket sales are
regulated by many state governments. and i start my bids at less than $5,
usually. just had one of her cd's end at $3.99. yeah i'm making a killing
selling old cd's i don't listen to anymore, considering they cost $17 each
*smirk*
'nuf said.
ryan
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so exactly how is it different to sell melissa's stuff on e-bay than it is
for someone to sell tickets over face????

business 101...

supply and demand

'nuf said!
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hey ryan,
"if you sell all your mle stuff on ebay are you going to give melissa her
cut?"
she got her cut when i shelled out $17 a piece for her cd's. considering her
cd's are fetching a grand total of less than $5 each on ebay, there is no
cut to be had since i am selling at a financial loss (the benefit for me is
creating more room)
"it would be no different if you offered your friend $50 to go get in line
and get you a ticket if you couldn't be here."
except it would be my friend and i am not doing it for a stranger with some
small hope of financial compensation above and beyond the cost of tickets.
had you really not cared about the extra money, i am sure you could have
easily found a face-value buyer right here.
ryan
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> from: indigo girls mailing list
> [<mailto:indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org>]on behalf of traci drago
> why is it that so many people on this list do not seem to care for emily's
> music? you are indigo girls fans, right? or are you amy fans?
to me, the whole is greater than the sum of the two parts. i love amy's
smoky, bedroom voice and i love emily's thought-provoking lyrics and i love
the interplay of harmonies the two together create. there are some songs
from both of them that make me go "huh?" and there are other songs that are
among my absolute favorite. my wife thinks that emily is actually the more
technical of the two, as far as ability goes.
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that was quite rude to bring up another poster in such a manner. perhaps
some reflection of exactly what the girls stand for is in order. i certainly
know it isn't to slam people who have the courage to ask for help.
ryan
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> [<mailto:indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org>]on behalf of lynn gothard
> you go traci! you are one of the few that have true insight into ig!
> and you say things with taste & knowledge! not like tara lane
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hi folks,
as you can guess from the subject of this note...
please take the discussion of scalping tickets, etc. to another forum.
thank you.
jen lucero
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2002 21:05:46 -0800
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considering there has been zero amount of advertising about this concert
in our paper, radio ads, or even a flyer....i too hope the show sells
well. is this normal for an ig concert?
live from youngstown...
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you know, i am absolutely amazed at how ugly some people can be to
one another! who cares what other artist appears on their albums, the
fact is the amy and emily are the indigo girls, and they make the music.
if you don't like it then don't listen...
when i listen to their music it's because there is something that draws
me too the lyrics, if i don't like a song, well then i don't listen
often. the indigo girls have always inspired something so positive
within me, i can't imagine why some people on this list behave so
hurtful and childish... it is definitely not in the spirit of the indigo
girls and the message they send!!! when i subscribed to this list,
arguing was the last thing i expected to encounter! dawn
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when i listen = to their=20 music it's because there is something that draws me too the lyrics, if i = don't=20 like a song, well then i don't listen often. the indigo girls have = always=20 inspired something so positive within me, i can't imagine why some = people on=20 this list behave so hurtful and childish... it is = definitely=20 not in the spirit of the indigo girls and the message they = send!!! =20 when i subscribed to this list, arguing was the last thing i expected to = encounter! dawn
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just got this from 365gay.com:
tim
home torched after couple seeks partner rights
by 365gay.com newscenter staff
(february 9, missoula, montana) just days after they filed a suit to gain
partnership rights an arsonist broke into the home of adrianne neff, carla
grayson and their infant son friday morning, and set it on fire.
neff, grayson and their son were asleep at the time. they narrowly escaped
the flames. they took their baby and headed for the front door - only to
find a wall of fire. back in the bedroom, neff passed the baby out the
window to grayson, then struggled to escape herself.
today, all they have left are the night clothes they were wearing as they
crawled through a window. their house was gutted, their belongings
destroyed, and fire officials are treating it as a triple attempted
homicide. friday afternoon, federal officials entered the investigation.
tuesday, neff and grayson - along with other plaintiffs and pride, inc., a
montana group representing gays and lesbians - filed a lawsuit in federal
district court in helena seeking health benefits for gay partners of
university of montana employees, where grayson is a professor.
the defendants in the case are the university system, the state, the
commissioner of higher education and the board of regents. (story)
the lawsuit gained local media attention and those publicly named in the
suit received death threats in the mail that read "die dyke", according to
the aclu.
"whoever set this fire did not intend to simply frighten or intimidate this
family. they meant to kill them," said matt coles, director of the aclu
lesbian & gay rights project.
seth kilbourn, the national field director for the human rights campaign
applauded authorities for moving quickly to fully investigate the apparent
hate crime.
"we hope law enforcement will arrest and prosecute these criminals to the
fullest extent of the law and send a strong message that these terrorist
tactics have no place in america," kilbourn said.
reported hate crimes based on sexual orientation have more than tripled
since the fbi began collecting statistics in 1991, and comprise 16.3 percent
of all hate crimes for 2000 at 1,330. hate crimes based on sexual
orientation continue to make up the third highest category after race and
religion, which make up 53.6 and 18.2 percent, respectively of the total,
8,152.
a special fund has been established to assist the family with costs
associated with the fire and subsequent security measure. checks can be made
payable to "relief fund" and send to p.o. box 775, helena, mt 59624.
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in a message dated 2/8/02 8:45:06 pm eastern standard time,
ritesofpassage9@webtv.net writes:

> awe come on folks, let's not start a flame war,
> hah? let's keep it respectful.
>
>
i vote flame war!! it's been too quiet around here and with the upcomming
release things are gonna get heated up anyway, i say let's get into these new
upcomming cd release threads in full stride.... rock on! flame on!!!
go get 'em... if the fourm is open enough for someone to offend
(intentionally or not) then it is open enough to give a flame for that
offence god bless america!!!!
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awe come on folks, let's not start a flame war,
hah? let's keep it respectful.

i vote flame war!! it's been too quiet around here and with the upcomming release things are gonna get heated up anyway, i say let's get into these new upcomming cd release threads in full stride.... rock on! flame on!!!

go get 'em... if the fourm is open enough for someone to offend (intentionally or not) then it is open enough to give a flame for that offence god bless america!!!!

joe
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in a message dated 2/8/02 8:45:26 pm eastern standard time, igfan@hotmail.com
writes:

> could someone please direct me to the adult ig email list. i didn't realize
> i'd signed up for ig email for kindergarten brats.
and in with the high road 'talk to the hand' statement of the thread is igfan
making us all take a long look in the virtual cyber mirror that reflects our
souls and ask... do i like what i see?
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could someone please direct me to the adult ig email list. i didn't realize
i'd signed up for ig email for kindergarten brats.


and in with the high road 'talk to the hand' statement of the thread is igfan making us all take a long look in the virtual cyber mirror that reflects our souls and ask... do i like what i see?

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in a message dated 2/8/02 9:51:33 pm eastern standard time, ryan@hawke2.com
writes:

> selling a cd second-hand is not regulated in any state. ticket sales are
> regulated by many state governments. and i start my bids at less than $5,
> usually. just had one of her cd's end at $3.99. yeah i'm making a killing
>
attention everyone
if we are talking about selling the store bought copy of a cd... you could
sell that sucker for a million bucks in front of the artist, a cop, the head
of the copyright and piracy enfourcement and a priest and none of them would
have anything to say becuase you own that copy. if you try to sell a tape or
a burned cd of it for $0.01, then even if you give that penny to jerrys kids,
you are still illeagle.
i didn't catch what sparked ryans post, but it sounded like she was defending
selling her store bought copies, which is compleatly unesscary....
not for nothing but original store bought copies is what get traded and
collected and put behind glass in a plaque hung on the wall with a special
lamp shining on it.
joe
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in a message dated 2/8/02 9:51:33 pm eastern standard time, ryan@hawke2.com writes:


selling a cd second-hand is not regulated in any state. ticket sales are regulated by many state governments. and i start my bids at less than $5, usually. just had one of her cd's end at $3.99. yeah i'm making a killing selling old cd's i don't listen to anymore, considering they cost $17 each


attention everyone

if we are talking about selling the store bought copy of a cd... you could sell that sucker for a million bucks in front of the artist, a cop, the head of the copyright and piracy enfourcement and a priest and none of them would have anything to say becuase you own that copy. if you try to sell a tape or a burned cd of it for $0.01, then even if you give that penny to jerrys kids, you are still illeagle.

i didn't catch what sparked ryans post, but it sounded like she was defending selling her store bought copies, which is compleatly unesscary....

not for nothing but original store bought copies is what get traded and collected and put behind glass in a plaque hung on the wall with a special lamp shining on it.

joe
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tim,
thanks for posting this...
this actually happened in my town. one of the victims is one of my
very-respected psychology professors. this is an incredibly frightening
story...this person actually broke into the home and unrolled a
gasoline-soaked rope through the house (other reports say a flammable
liquid was poured throughout the house) and lit fire to it. unfortunately,
while the perpetrator will be charged with attempted murder when s/he is
caught, s/he will not be charged with a hate crime as the montana hate
crimes law does not cover sexual orientation.
not only did they receive threatening letters (with the return address
"god's way"), the envelopes also contained a white powder and the letters
made reference to anthrax.
i am shocked, saddened, and extremely pissed off that this could happen.
it's always most horrifying when it happens to someone you know and
respect.
for local media coverage, check out:
www.missoulian.com <http://www.missoulian.com/> (local newspaper)
www.kaimin.org <http://www.kaimin.org/> (university newpaper)
local tv:
www.kpax.com <http://www.kpax.com/>
<http://www.keci.com/index3.cfm?sec=news&cfid=311568&cftoken=19330876>

amy m.
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"so, we must love, while these moments are still called today..."
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scuze me...ticketmaster??? wasn't mandy in line at the tla right behind me
buying tickets for you too neil???
no charges..not even tax!!!
*just teasing..see you on the 27th*
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> i am shocked, saddened, and extremely pissed off that this could happen.
> it's always most horrifying when it happens to someone you know and
> respect.
when in the hell are people going to learn to mind their own damn business
and live and let live.
dave
(not the most enlightened person you've ever met, but sure as shit not
homophobic)
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i won't be there, but a friend sent me the following info.
lauren
you can also buy the tickets over the phone for $20 plus $1.50 service
charge, which may be cheaper and / or easier than the internet. call (323)
463-0204 and press for the box office. if they do not answer, an operator can
sell you the tickets.
this will work for 95+% of the fans but not the people who really want to be
in the front for the show. doors open at 8:00 p.m. and the will call window
for all those who purchased tickets over the internet or telephone opens at
7:30 p.m. you can line up as early as you want to pick up your tickets, but
you cannot get on the line to enter until you have your tickets in your
hand.
the only people who can line up to enter prior to 7:30 p.m. are those who
went to the box office to purchase tickets and already have their tickets in
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i won't be there, but a friend sent me the following info.

lauren

you can also buy the tickets over the phone for $20 plus $1.50 service charge, which may be cheaper and / or easier than the internet. call (323) 463-0204 and press for the box office. if they do not answer, an operator can sell you the tickets.

this will work for 95+% of the fans but not the people who really want to be
in the front for the show. doors open at 8:00 p.m. and the will call window
for all those who purchased tickets over the internet or telephone opens at
7:30 p.m. you can line up as early as you want to pick up your tickets, but
you cannot get on the line to enter until you have your tickets in your
hand.

the only people who can line up to enter prior to 7:30 p.m. are those who
went to the box office to purchase tickets and already have their tickets in
their hands.


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yes, the rantings of our one and only lynn
gothard, aka toering5, who hates me due to the
fact that i used to dabble in having her bootleg
cd auctions on ebay shut down.
just giving you guys some insight on why most of
lynn's posts have my name tacked onto something
derogatory and usually just - well - stupid.
tara
--- ig fan <igfan@hotmail.com> wrote:
> could someone please direct me to the adult ig
> email list. i didn't realize
> i'd signed up for ig email for kindergarten
> brats.
>
> >>you go traci! you are one of the few that
> have true insight into ig!
> >> >>and you say things with taste & knowledge!
> not like tara lane the
> >> >>know it all "princess" with personal
> problems that she takes out on
> >> >>the rest of the world -- and also just
> talks to sound big!!! too bad
> >> >>tara!! sorry more on this list arent like
> you traci! traci is a true
> >> >>ig fan!!!!! you go girl!!! lynn <flame
> on!>

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tara wrote:
>actually, the record company pays for the promos
>and distributes them.
and bills it all to the artist. it's all a part of the cost of making the
record that the record company charges the artist by taking that money out
of profits from cd sales. once all of that is payed back, the artist will
get paid. most of the time, they will have to sell a lot of cds before that
happens.

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emily's fine emily's great, woo hoo go emily, but it is really apparent (to
me at least) that while amy's song writing just seems to be improving, emily
seems to be running out of new ideas or inspiration or something. i have not
heard the new album, but i say this because i thought that her work on the
last one was just uninspired, not as amazing as her old stuff. whatever, it's
just where she is in her journey/process right now i guess. maybe amy's
catching up and that's what we're noticing.
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tara and all the wacky, wonderful people on this list--
just remember that listservs are often rife with lonely, antisocial folks
who have to hide behind a computer screen to express themselves. and
fan-based listservs tend to attract lonely, antisocial, and *obsessed* folks
who are so dissatisfied with their own lives that they become grossly
overinvolved with the lives of, for example, the indigo girls. while the
vast majority of you on here are like that (i know, or know of, a huge bunch
of you, and i know you to be wonderful, caring, cool people), you know, and
i know, and for god's sake amy and emily certainly know that there *are*
some people who are a bit, uh, extreme.
it's ridiculous that people think they can insult, hurt, and degrade others
just because they're typing onto a screen. regardless of whether there's
human contact going on, there is a living, breathing, thinking, feeling
human being at the receiving end of each and every one of our posts and
flames.
tara, bringing your problems to others-- even via this list-- is a brave
thing. making human contact is scary and takes guts. dealing with your
problems is just as hard. i'm glad you're using your available resources
and friends (online or in person) to get things together, and you shouldn't
be faulted for that. i'm not sure what lynn here is hoping to accomplish by
her rants. all i'm seeing is a failure to enact emotional maturity and an
inability to exercise caution when dealing with caps and exclamation points.
jill

> > >>you go traci! you are one of the few that
> > have true insight into ig!
> > >> >>and you say things with taste & knowledge!
> > not like tara lane the
> > >> >>know it all "princess" with personal
> > problems that she takes out on
> > >> >>the rest of the world -- and also just
> > talks to sound big!!! too bad
> > >> >>tara!! sorry more on this list arent like
> > you traci! traci is a true
> > >> >>ig fan!!!!! you go girl!!! lynn <flame
> > on!>

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i don't know if this'll be live on the website, but fwiw, kbco has been a
strong backer of ig. i think that's a good part of why the denver/boulder
area is one of their strongest markets.
lauren
tune in to 97.3 kbco on monday around 2:30pm to hear the indigo girls perform
live in kbco studio c!
we'll have tickets to give away during the session for their show monday
night at the fox theater, so listen on monday for your chance to win!
visit the <a href="<http://www.kbco.com/studioc/listen.html>">kbco studio c listening station</a> at kbco.com to hear archived
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i don't know if this'll be live on the website, but fwiw, kbco has been a strong backer of ig. i think that's a good part of why the denver/boulder area is one of their strongest markets.

lauren

tune in to 97.3 kbco on monday around 2:30pm to hear the indigo girls perform live in kbco studio c!
we'll have tickets to give away during the session for their show monday night at the fox theater, so listen on monday for your chance to win!

visit the kbco studio c listening station <http://www.kbco.com/studioc/listen.html> at kbco.com to hear archived sessions with chris isaak and jewel in streaming audio!


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um, yeah, bad editing skills. that was obviously supposed to say the vast
majority of you are definitely not like that. sorry, wasn't consciously
trying to insult hundreds of you. sorry sorry, you know i love you. for
real. now kisses all round (esp. to tha ladies), and go outside and run
across the lawn or the quad or somethin. it's a gorgeous day and i'm
ordering all you sexy people to get off the pc and get away from the flame
war and go hug a tree. do it do it.
jill
>while the vast majority of you on here are like that
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hahaha tara! i was really laughing at you and your "tunnel vision" on
ig! i feel very sorry for you! i am not a boot legger and i am not
shut down! hahaha figures if you can't get your own screwed up life
settled you have to try to mess with others! by the way, have you
gotten straight with your famiy yet????? or or we gonna have to hear
more pitiful whining from poor little ole you??????? have you truly
donated the funds for the ig cd to your charity yet?????? do we get to
see a reciept???? or should we write russell carter and tell him you
have been stealing money from the ig's???? too bad one cant post a nice
note (with truth in it) to someone on this list with out the flames!
tara, do you think you own the list and all the peoples thoughts on
this list ms. self appointed indigo police???? i know lots & lots &
lots that think you are a fool! don't bug me again! cant wait for the
ig's in nashville (even tho tara doesnt like emily)! lynn
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they do webcast those sessions - but maybe someone local could tape it and
put the mp3's up?
- the club they are playing in that night also broadcast live via
www.dcn.com <http://www.dcn.com/>, so the show might be webcast.
i should throw this all online - sorta a ig tour webcast page.

i dont know if the 2/11 show is webcast - it is just very appearent that
the theater does webcast events.
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you know toering. i've bought quite a few items from you in past years. it
was obvious then i did not know who i was dealing with and will take my
money elsewhere, from now on, to other sellers who know how to treat their
fellow human beings. i find it an odd sales tactic to come here and alienate
what is probably your biggest pool of customers with your childish rants,
expecially when sales are so slow right now. the only thing you are
succeeding in doing is showing us all that you have the maturity of a 9 year
old.
> -----original message-----
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>
> hahaha tara! i was really laughing at you and your "tunnel vision" on
> ig! i feel very sorry for you! i am not a boot legger and i am not
> shut down!
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the fact you sell items that the indigo girls have made very clear dont
want sold for high inflated prices isnt bad enough - you have thew gall, on
a listserv about two lesbian artists to redicule people because of their
emotional problems -
lynn- are we a bit uncomfortable - and what have you done to this community
to help it out - tara has made a gazillion live cdrs at no cost to fans - i
guess we will have to be merely not good enough to live in indigo girls
museums and just have ordinary lives.

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its is somewhat beyond me to understand why, this public forum needs to
be the place for airing out animosity. and it goes way beyond me, why
anyone would choose to beat someone up over their emotion state. please
don't explain it to me, i don't want to know. i know however that i
myself get a lot of positive energy from the indigo girls. when i joined
this list well over a year and a half ago, a lot of times that
positivity was reflected in this list. i don't know what happened. that
i would like to know. i know that flame wars are inevitable on a list, i
understand that. but to flame someone in this public forum, you have to
go through the trouble of replying to the post then changing the email
address from the original poster's email address to
indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org. this tells me that you must feel like
you need to be heard by everyone on the list. i can tell you that i am
at least one person on this list that doesn't want to hear said flames.
if you feel its an absolute must to flame someone, send it to them
directly, or perhaps send it to yourself and read it later to see just
how heartless or ridiculous you sound at times. regardless keep the
flaming out of this public forum.
i guess the bottom line is that i urge people to move this list back in
the positive direction. why not?
cheers to one and all,
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right on, todd...i have seen some pretty wicked public responses (even
outside of lynn's outburst--i started ignoring her posts the last time she
did this kind of thing to tara), and it makes me wonder what's up.
most of my ig fan experiences have been great...i hope that sort of attitude
comes back to stay soon.
~megan
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its is somewhat beyond me to understand why, this public forum needs to
be the place for airing out animosity. and it goes way beyond me, why
anyone would choose to beat someone up over their emotion state. please
don't explain it to me, i don't want to know. i know however that i
myself get a lot of positive energy from the indigo girls. when i joined
this list well over a year and a half ago, a lot of times that
positivity was reflected in this list. i don't know what happened. that
i would like to know. i know that flame wars are inevitable on a list, i
understand that. but to flame someone in this public forum, you have to
go through the trouble of replying to the post then changing the email
address from the original poster's email address to
indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org. this tells me that you must feel like
you need to be heard by everyone on the list. i can tell you that i am
at least one person on this list that doesn't want to hear said flames.
if you feel its an absolute must to flame someone, send it to them
directly, or perhaps send it to yourself and read it later to see just
how heartless or ridiculous you sound at times. regardless keep the
flaming out of this public forum.
i guess the bottom line is that i urge people to move this list back in
the positive direction. why not?
cheers to one and all,
todd
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ummmm.... not for nothing... but lynn, but you suck.
i'm almost ashamed to share taste in music with you.
you're weak, and you're not even a good writer.
a flame from you is no more compustable then a heleum balloon.
...and just to beat you too it, i know that posting about you is almost no
better then what you said about tara, but my spot here on the list has
nothing to do with being nice. i analalyze lyrics, and blast those who are
failures as human beings. concider yourself blasted.
.....anyone got any lyrics they want anaylized?

joe
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ummmm.... not for nothing... but lynn, but you suck.

i'm almost ashamed to share taste in music with you.

you're weak, and you're not even a good writer.

a flame from you is no more compustable then a heleum balloon.

...and just to beat you too it, i know that posting about you is almost no better then what you said about tara, but my spot here on the list has nothing to do with being nice. i analalyze lyrics, and blast those who are failures as human beings. concider yourself blasted.

.....anyone got any lyrics they want anaylized?


joe
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listees,
last night, i requested this discussion to be taken off-list to other
forums.
not only has the discussion continued, but it has spiraled into a slugfest
which is absolutely unacceptable behavior.
that stated, i am requesting once more for this exchange be taken off-list.
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hey everyone,
sorry things have been getting out of hand around her lately. maybe there
is just too much pent up show anticipation going on around here. i know i
am anxious to see the girls again.
come on people now
smile on your brother & sister
everybody get together
try to love one another right now
nigc: elle mckay your package came back to me returned again. email me
privately pls.
traci drago
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>from: deena ainge <da3398@aol.com>
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>subject: re: illeagle simileagle / androgony
>date: fri, 8 feb 2002 12:06:33 est
>
><< wow!!!! ryan is a woman!?
>
>cool. i love names like that ;
>
>i agree, fabulous name!! ryan, you go girl! :)
>
>oh, and how 'bout "dylan"? (my four year old daughter's name- named before
>the drew barrymore character in "charlie's angels" ) a friend named her
>baby
>girl "donovan"... my other new favorite name
>
>just echoing the sentiment. :)
>d

ryan is a very cool name...i've met a female kevin, jeremy, douglas and
connery...nevermind all the mackenzies running around out there!
and then there's me...stuck with one of the most common names in the
country...and to think my mother had never heard of it and though she was
being incredibly original...
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back a while ago i wrote...
(at 2:30 pm 1/25/02)
third and lindsey used to have a live radio thing - i dunno now tho - i
guess i could look that up - but that is more radio appearences type thing
- and i will bet a bunch of those will happen.
well-
it is seriously happening!!!!!!! check out the tour section of the official
site - wrlt is broadcasting it.
i swear i am not psychic - or even psycho - psychiatric depending on mood...
so - like anyone get this station? 2/24/02 it is on...
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excellent points, traci.
>and emily. if you will recall, there are emily songs that fans want and
>expect to hear at almost every show. it is tradition, we fans even
let's also remember that of the two, emily has penned the most popular of
the girls's songs, "closer to fine" and "galileo." really, these are just
about the only two ig songs known by your average radio listener.
>emily is
>unappreciated, but yet she strives to make her music, just like amy,
yes, she does. and, i believe emily is technically the better guitar player.
most of the soloing is her.
in general, i prefer amy's writing and singing to emily's, but emily has
done amazing things and all that guitar work is brilliant. and with out her,
were would the harmonies be? in the end, the indigo girls are so great
because of amy and emily together.
just my .02
tom
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makes it harder to be livin'
he said, 'it's a long road to be forgiven."
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i'm glad to see people coming to emily's defense...and
i'm glad that someone else recognizes emily's
brilliant guitar work. she is the most underrated
guitarist i can think of. i think we hold emily to
too high a standard. she started out (to me anyway)
so far ahead of amy in regards to songwriting ability,
and musicianship. over the years, amy has started to
catch up - especially in her songwriting. but, amy
had more room for improvement, so her improvement is
easier to notice. now, back to lurker mode....
--- tom xxxxx <getula@hotmail.com> wrote:
> excellent points, traci.
>
> >and emily. if you will recall, there are emily
> songs that fans want and
> >expect to hear at almost every show. it is
> tradition, we fans even
> let's also remember that of the two, emily has
> penned the most popular of
> the girls's songs, "closer to fine" and "galileo."
> really, these are just
> about the only two ig songs known by your average
> radio listener.
>
> >emily is
> >unappreciated, but yet she strives to make her
> music, just like amy,
> yes, she does. and, i believe emily is technically
> the better guitar player.
> most of the soloing is her.
>
> in general, i prefer amy's writing and singing to
> emily's, but emily has
> done amazing things and all that guitar work is
> brilliant. and with out her,
> were would the harmonies be? in the end, the indigo
> girls are so great
> because of amy and emily together.
>
> just my .02
> tom
> "all the carnage of my journeys
> makes it harder to be livin'
> he said, 'it's a long road to be forgiven."
> amy ray, "chickenman"
>
>
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seems like they'll be a lot of these.
>>>>>>
from the daemon message board:
march 1st at 3:30 pm
indigo to be in the river music hall (wxrv 92.5
haverhill/boston).
they'll be in town playing that night at the
paradise, so i'm glad they're making it
to this radio station (which plays amy's on your
honor occasionally and always
talks about stag and ig). oh, and they are playing
hammer & nail right now,
which reminded me of posting this.
i think you may be able to listen live, but am not
sure:
www.92.5theriver.com/fram...nlive.html <http://www.92.5theriver.com/fram...nlive.html>


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> back a while ago i wrote...
>
> (at 2:30 pm 1/25/02)
> third and lindsey used to have a live radio thing - i dunno now tho - i
> guess i could look that up - but that is more radio appearences type thing
> - and i will bet a bunch of those will happen.
>
> well-
>
> it is seriously happening!!!!!!! check out the tour section of the official
> site - wrlt is broadcasting it.
>
> i swear i am not psychic - or even psycho - psychiatric depending on mood...
>
> so - like anyone get this station? 2/24/02 it is on...
>
> mike r.
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it is being webcast too. (from the site)
the indigo girls with danielle howle play lightning
100's "nashville sunday night" broadcast & webcast
sunday february 24 at 3rd and lindsley! all advance
tickets have sold out! all tickets are general
admission, 21 & over. doors open at 5:00 pm night of
show for advance ticket holders only. there is a $8.00
minimum food and drink requirement for all seated
guests. 3rd and lindsley seats 235 guests and has sold
200 seats in advance. remaining seats and standing
room on sale for $20 cash only at 7:00 pm the night of
show. we would like to thank everyone for their
interest in this show. if you were not able to get
tickets, be sure to tune in to the live broadcast on
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i may be a self-proclaimed amy girl, but don't let that fool ya,
emily seems so sincere, and positive, very philosophical....and more
private,
(i think amy seems to like the limelight a little. i
don't see very many emily interviews posted on the list by comparison
to the gobs of amy stuff)
and all that really makes emily loveable.
oh yeah, and her humor,,,,all you that have
the kmtt interviews from 1999's cons tour
catch that when the dee jay asked her if she
has a beer or two while she golfs? anyone?
how she started to admonish him and switched gears mid sentence, "well
now you know you're not supposed ta of course i do! but it can get to
the point of diminishing returns."
he greeted her,"seattle (is it?) loves you."
she jokes,"that's a beautiful thing!"
on stage both girls show vulnerabilty in different ways. emily's usually
kind of quietly doing her lead guitar (extremely technical and
difficult) and amy looks like she's about to just run off the face of
earth,looking very confidant and bold,.
i like vulnerability in a performer, it tells me they are sincere,
someone i can relate to.
amy wouldn't be the amy we like without emily,
and neither would be where they are today careerwise without the other.
peace
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hi everybody! i'm getting a laugh out of all this poor unappreciated
emily stuff. does anybody besides me remember when emily was
everybody's favorite? i guess it's just like emily says "everything in
its own time". i personally love them both equally (like any good mom
would), and except for a song or two on stag, i can't think of a song by
either of them that i don't like. the intensity of amy plus the
lyricism of emily definitely equals some awesome music!
very glad they met in grade school, (and that my teenagers are still
asleep!)
bonnie
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excellent points, traci.
>and emily. if you will recall, there are emily songs that fans want
and
>expect to hear at almost every show. it is tradition, we fans even
let's also remember that of the two, emily has penned the most popular
of
the girls's songs, "closer to fine" and "galileo." really, these are
just
about the only two ig songs known by your average radio listener.
>emily is
>unappreciated, but yet she strives to make her music, just like amy,
yes, she does. and, i believe emily is technically the better guitar
player.
most of the soloing is her.
in general, i prefer amy's writing and singing to emily's, but emily has
done amazing things and all that guitar work is brilliant. and with out
her,
were would the harmonies be? in the end, the indigo girls are so great
because of amy and emily together.
just my .02
tom
"all the carnage of my journeys
makes it harder to be livin'
he said, 'it's a long road to be forgiven."
amy ray, "chickenman"

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i guess that because of emily's past
accomplishments, songs, solos, etc. i hold her
to a higher standard. and as good as the new
songs are, it would be nice to hear something as
lyrically meaningful as ghost, or as musically
adept as crazy game, or with a big ol' long solo
like in strange fire.
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> cool. i love names like that ;
>
> jaimie, chris, toni....
>
> you are the first female ryan i have ever met...
>
>
i named my children bailey and casey - now guess which is the girl and which
is the boy!!!!
pam in big d, home of the 2 inch snow!
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cool. i love names like that ;

jaimie, chris, toni....

you are the first female ryan i have ever met...

i named my children bailey and casey - now guess which is the girl and which is the boy!!!!

pam in big d, home of the 2 inch snow!
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hi all!
this week's file is southern man (live with kristen hall) taken from the
nothing to hide bootleg cd.
the lyrics are below....
anyone who's not on my list and would like to be included or who's
not on my list and would just like to get this file,...
please, e-mail me about it.
be well,
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southern man
southern man better keep your head
don't forget what your good book said
southern change gonna come as last
now your crosses are burning fast
southern man
i saw cotton
i saw black
tall white fences
little shacks
and southern man
when will you pay them back
i heard screaming
bull whips cracking
how long how long
how
southern man better keep your head
don't forget what your good book said
southern change gonna come at last
now your crosses are burning fast
southern man
southern man
lilly belle your hair is golden brown
i've seen your black man coming round
i swear by god i'm gonna cut him down
i heard screaming
bull whips cracking
how long how long
how
southern man better keep your head
don't forget what your good book said
southern change gonna come at last
now your crosses are burning fast
southern man
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in a message dated 2/8/2002 7:35:48 am central standard time,
tara8595@yahoo.com writes:

> anyhow... this has gone on far too long, so i'll
> just end with - most of you will really like this
> record, but don't expect a return to the old
> days, because this isn't one.
>
i mentioned to my husband that i thought amy was returning to her musical
roots with by and his comment was,"good - i think i like her roots much
better than her branches!''
i continue to be surprised that in the last couple of years, amy's are the
songs that grab me first and emily's have to grow on me. it used to be very
much the other way around. bitteroot and become you are early favorites from
by, although i'm collecting you is a very nice tune. but what does emily
mean by "i was born with a hole in my heart the size of my landlocked
travels."? that lyric (can't remember the song it's from right now) makes no
sense to me. any early ideas?
at any rate, the disc is a wonderful listen over all, even if it doesn't seem
to include many "instant classics!"
peace,
pam in big d
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anyhow... this has gone on far too long, so i'll
just end with - most of you will really like this
record, but don't expect a return to the old
days, because this isn't one.


i mentioned to my husband that i thought amy was returning to her musical roots with by and his comment was,"good - i think i like her roots much better than her branches!''

i continue to be surprised that in the last couple of years, amy's are the songs that grab me first and emily's have to grow on me. it used to be very much the other way around. bitteroot and become you are early favorites from by, although i'm collecting you is a very nice tune. but what does emily mean by "i was born with a hole in my heart the size of my landlocked travels."? that lyric (can't remember the song it's from right now) makes no sense to me. any early ideas?

at any rate, the disc is a wonderful listen over all, even if it doesn't seem to include many "instant classics!"

peace,

pam in big d
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howdy ya'll,
tara asks about the line: "i was born with a hole in my heart the size of my landlocked travels" and the line is from "she's saving me" which is just *so* beautiful to me, it has the power to create strong emotion from the musical tone itself, and her voice, without even listening to the lyrics, which are, sadly, a little elusive. but i was wondering what folks thought about that line as well, because i know it's about her sister and her death-btw, what did the dear die of, if i could be so bold to ask, and how many sisters/brothers does emily have?... and amy for that matter, she has three sisters, older, correct?-but certain lines are just so mysterious.
and to just beat a dead horse-strange imagery itself...-i have to agree with folks when they say that emily was already, during strange fire and before, so very advanced in her songwriting and her playing that the only places she could really go where to other instruments or to different styles, really. she was so technically and musically advanced that where do you go from there outside becoming a classical guitarist doing bach 2-part inventions? whereas, yeah, amy had a lot of growing to do. and i still think amy has growing to do. her lyrics have always been a lot more blunt but sometimes a little lacking, not *too* often, but.
and a while back i went about making a poster collage to hang on my wall of the girls, and interspersed lyrics that stood well alone without the rest of the song surrounding them, and probably 75% or more were emily. because she, like amy has stated, is *brilliant* at finding that one lyric, or those three lines that *everybody* is gonna sing in concert louder than any other lines; the ones that sum it up for a ton of people. and i *really* noticed that when i was making that collage; she's got some very ingenious philisophical little phrases that make great fortune cookies or quotes at the end of sigs. and that's just as hard as writing a whole darn song, because you don't have much room to express a rather universal or complex idea. three cheers for emily.
plus, who can get past that beautiful voice? since she stopped smokin' too she's gotten even more range, higher, and as always, very complex but controlled trills... i'm not a music major, i have trouble describing what i know very well what i mean. she has a ton of control over her voice to throw in those three extra quickfire notes into the line, bending the notes so carefully. she was the one for about the first three months of my indigo obsession that i always warmed up to as far as songs went first... amy always took some time to get close to.
now, being the amy devotee that i am, i can still so clearly see how absolutely necessary and wonderful emily is for the band and for herself. i personally get drawn to amy because she's so completely different from me, and at the same time, emily is really probably more comforting-whoa, big surprise, right?-because of her soothing tones and her gentle way of expressing very serious subject matter. and dig, her transplanted southern accent. it's so cute!
ok, i've *really* rambled, but i needed to get it off my chest, have a great day, ya'll! *i* have not yet heard become you cause i'm all for waiting for the release date and despite the conflicting reviews i've heard so far, i'm more than thrilled for march 12th. hooray for opposites that attract large, devoted crowds!
mnoelm@aol.com wrote: in a message dated 2/8/2002 7:35:48 am central standard time, tara8595@yahoo.com writes:

anyhow... this has gone on far too long, so i'll
just end with - most of you will really like this
record, but don't expect a return to the old
days, because this isn't one.

i mentioned to my husband that i thought amy was returning to her musical roots with by and his comment was,"good - i think i like her roots much better than her branches!''
i continue to be surprised that in the last couple of years, amy's are the songs that grab me first and emily's have to grow on me. it used to be very much the other way around. bitteroot and become you are early favorites from by, although i'm collecting you is a very nice tune. but what does emily mean by "i was born with a hole in my heart the size of my landlocked travels."? that lyric (can't remember the song it's from right now) makes no sense to me. any early ideas?
at any rate, the disc is a wonderful listen over all, even if it doesn't seem to include many "instant classics!"
peace,
pam in big d
peace and love,
~juliana
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<p> howdy ya'll,
<p>tara asks about the line: "i was born with a hole in my heart the size of my landlocked travels" and the line is from "she's saving me" which is just *so* beautiful to me, it has the power to create strong emotion from the musical tone itself, and her voice, without even listening to the lyrics, which are, sadly, a little elusive.  but i was wondering what folks thought about that line as well, because i know it's about her sister and her death-btw, what did the dear die of, if i could be so bold to ask, and how many sisters/brothers does emily have?... and amy for that matter, she has three sisters, older, correct?-but certain lines are just so mysterious.
<p>and to just beat a dead horse-strange imagery itself...-i have to agree with folks when they say that emily was already, during strange fire and before, so very advanced in her songwriting and her playing that the only places she could really go where to other instruments or to different styles, really.  she was so technically and musically advanced that where do you go from there outside becoming a classical guitarist doing bach 2-part inventions?  whereas, yeah, amy had a lot of growing to do.  and i still think amy has growing to do.  her lyrics have always been a lot more blunt but sometimes a little lacking, not *too* often, but.
<p>and a while back i went about making a poster collage to hang on my wall of the girls, and interspersed lyrics that stood well alone without the rest of the song surrounding them, and probably 75% or more were emily.  because she, like amy has stated, is *brilliant* at finding that one lyric, or those three lines that *everybody* is gonna sing in concert louder than any other lines; the ones that sum it up for a ton of people.  and i *really* noticed that when i was making that collage; she's got some very ingenious philisophical little phrases that make great fortune cookies or quotes at the end of sigs.  and that's just as hard as writing a whole darn song, because you don't have much room to express a rather universal or complex idea.  three cheers for emily.
<p>plus, who can get past that beautiful voice?  since she stopped smokin' too she's gotten even more range, higher, and as always, very complex but controlled trills... i'm not a music major, i have trouble describing what i know very well what i mean.  she has a ton of control over her voice to throw in those three extra quickfire notes into the line, bending the notes so carefully.  she was the one for about the first three months of my indigo obsession that i always warmed up to as far as songs went first... amy always took some time to get close to. 
<p>now, being the amy devotee that i am, i can still so clearly see how absolutely necessary and wonderful emily is for the band and for herself.  i personally get drawn to amy because she's so completely different from me, and at the same time, emily is really probably more comforting-whoa, big surprise, right?-because of her soothing tones and her gentle way of expressing very serious subject matter.  and dig, her transplanted southern accent.  it's so cute!
<p>ok, i've *really* rambled, but i needed to get it off my chest, have a great day, ya'll!  *i* have not yet heard become you cause i'm all for waiting for the release date and despite the conflicting reviews i've heard so far, i'm more than thrilled for march 12th.  hooray for opposites that attract large, devoted crowds!
<p>  <b><i>mnoelm@aol.com</i></b> wrote:
<blockquote style="border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px"><font face=arial,helvetica><font size=2>in a message dated 2/8/2002 7:35:48 am central standard time, tara8595@yahoo.com writes: <br><br><br>
<blockquote style="border-left: #0000ff 2px solid; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px" type="cite">anyhow... this has gone on far too long, so i'll <br>just end with - most of you will really like this <br>record, but don't expect a return to the old <br>days, because this isn't one. <br></blockquote><br><br>i mentioned to my husband that i thought amy was returning to her musical roots with by and his comment was,"good - i think i like her roots much better than her branches!'' <br><br>i continue to be surprised that in the last couple of years, amy's are the songs that grab me first and emily's have to grow on me.  it used to be very much the other way around.  bitteroot and become you are early favorites from by, although i'm collecting you is a very nice tune.  but what does emily mean by "i was born with a hole in my heart the size of my landlocked travels."?  that lyric (can't remember the song it's from right now) makes no sense to me.  any early ideas? <br><br>at any rate, the disc is a wonderful listen over all, even if it doesn't seem to include many "instant classics!" <br><br>peace, <br><br>pam in big d</font> </blockquote></font><br><br>peace and love,<br>~juliana<br><br>visit my website at: http://hometown.aol.com/julianaesmith/home.html<br><br>"and <http://hometown.aol.com/julianaesmith/home.html%3cbr%3e%3cbr%3e%22and> if in the end, we should go both our separate ways, i know the lessons i've learned here is worth it all."<p><br><hr size=1><b>do you yahoo!?</b><br>
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let's see if i can make this make sense:

"i was born with a hole in my heart, the size of my landlocked travels."

this line comes right after "i'm a very lost soul." i'm thinking that emily
is saying that she was born with an emptiness inside her, a restlessness
inside her, a searchingness (not a word, i know) inside her, that is,
metaphorically speaking, as big as all the miles she has traveled in her
career. that somehow that hole in her heart, that restlessness, is what
leads her to keep moving, to keep searching, to keep experiencing, hoping,
one day, that the hole will be filled, that her restlessness will turn into
peace, that she will find what she is searching for. "if i weren't leaving
you, i don't know what i would do..."


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hi all-
haven't posted in over a year. gawd, has it been that long? hello, old
listees, greetings new peeps!
so this is my take. people have waxes and wanes in their pofessional
careers, we all do. a good year, a bad year. i've had waxes and wanes in
my relationship to amy's and emily's songwriting that may or may not be
related to their professional waxes and wanes. i think emily, on ig and
nis is masterful, amy's stuff takes a little more adjusting for me. not
all of them, but a higher proportion of her songs just don't work for me.
then, on rop, they both hit kind of a low for me, about half that album
kicks my ass, but the other half just kinda bugs. but so i think is
masterful on both counts. and i don't know what the hell happened to amy
on sots, but, besides soy, that whole album just doesn't do it for me,
amy-wise. emily, otoh, amazes me on that album. then, with a few
exceptions, cons is exactly the referse.
so i have to say that for me, there really is no "trend" of amy getting
consistently better or emily getting consistently worse, or vice versa,
except a trend of both of them getting more diverse and risky, which i
wholeheartedly support, it all kinda mixes up and waxes and wanes. i
think if i had to evaluate an overall trend, i might say that they are
getting more sophisticated, but that doesn't always mean "better."
me rambling,
chris ii
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i have an extra ticket - possibly 2. i'll sell at face value which is $22
each. the ticket is at will call so we'll have to meet up before the doors
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slim's 2/15/02 9pm
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from cnn.com:
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department recommendation monday to store all the nation's high-level
radioactive nuclear waste at yucca mountain, nevada, administration
officials said sunday.
the officials said they expect bush to endorse the recommendation. a white
house announcement could come as early as wednesday, the officials said.
(see cnn.com for the rest of the story)
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anybody interested in meeting for a beer before the seattle show---email me.
also, if anybody needs/wants a ride anywhere between oly and seattle, i may be able to be of assistance.
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yup that's right, i have beensick with this flu bug since tuesday, and
was not able to get to first avenue in time, i have no credit or debit
card, so i couldn't use any of the online sales.
please, anyone whocan help? this is my last hope before ebay, i've been
waiting for 5 years for this show, (and i'll do anything tp avoid
sleeping outside first avenue and going to ebay.)
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i have a couple extra tickets for seattle on wednesday. email if you are
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> =e2=80=9ci was born with a hole in my heart, the size of my landlocked tra=
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> this line comes right after =e2=80=9ci=e2=80=99m a very lost soul.=e2=80=
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> emily
> is saying that she was born with an emptiness inside her, a restlessness
> inside her, a searchingness (not a word, i know) inside her, that is,
> metaphorically speaking, as big as all the miles she has traveled in her
> career. =20
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i think you interpreted that perfectly. i have a friend who called me as=20
soon as he heard that lyric, and he was going on and on about that beautiful=
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=e2=80=9ci was born with a hole= in my heart, the size of my landlocked travels.=e2=80=9d

this line comes right after =e2=80=9ci=e2=80=99m a very lost soul.=e2=80=9d&= nbsp; i=e2=80=99m thinking that emily
is saying that she was born with an emptiness inside her, a restlessness
inside her, a searchingness (not a word, i know) inside her, that is,
metaphorically speaking, as big as all the miles she has traveled in her
career.


i think you interpreted that perfectly. i have a friend who called me=20= as soon as he heard that lyric, and he was going on and on about that beauti= ful analogy and how it rang true for him. he moves across the country=20= because he thinks that each city that he has never lived in is going to brin= g him happiness, and then once he gets there, he realizes that is not true.&= nbsp; but yes, i like your interpretation, and i think the line definitely b= oils down to being a size comparison worded into a lovely analogy. tha= t emily is an expert at turning a phrase!
april
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i might be able too - but i doubt it - it is on at 2:30 mt time (4:30 for
us east coasters)
i get out of work at 4:30 and wont be home till 5:30 - i may have a friend
locally helping me on this - nothing definite.
www.kbco.com <http://www.kbco.com/>

peace-
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wow man i never post to these things but lynn what are you 5? get a grip. i
think it is clear to everyone on this list who exactly it is that has
personal problems, because you may be laughing at tara but everyone else is
laughing at you...
carla ;o)
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got this from the philly folk music list. he was an amazing influence on many
a folk musician and folk music lover.
deb

> subject: dave van ronk rip
>
> for immediate release
>
>
> veteran blues and folk singer dave van ronk died at approximately 9:30 am
> eastern time on february 10, 2002, at new york university medical center in
> manhattan. he was sixty-five years old and had been undergoing chemotherapy
> treatment for colon cancer when his cardio-pulmonary system failed.
>
>
> a crucial early influence on bob dylan and others of the greenwich village
> school, van ronk was at the forefront of a musical generation that drew
> inspiration from rural blues masters, while creating a solo performance
> genre
> popular with urban, college-educated audiences. beginning in the 1960's, he
> toured widely, performing in coffee houses and campuses. in subsequent
> years
> he broadened his repertoire to encompass the traditional jazz influences of
> his teenage years, art songs by the likes of bertolt brecht and joni
> mitchell, and his own compositions, usually marked by an ironic
> self-deprecation that eschewed sentimentality in favor of hard and beautiful
> realism. ("from genghis khan to the fuller brush man/ they're all a bunch
> of
> losers like me.") he was also known for his solo guitar arrangements of
> jazz
> repertoire, especially the work of jelly roll morton. on his most recent
> recording sweet and lowdown, a jazz ensemble accompanied his exploration of
> popular standards like "when time goes by."
>
>
> familiarly known as "the mayor of macdougal street," van ronk presided over
> an apartment that served as hangout pad/salon to peers like odetta, tom
> paxton and peter yarrow, and a virtual graduate school to the next
> generation
> of guitarists, some of whom, like christine lavin, achieved broad popularity
> in their own right. an engaging raconteur, he enjoyed sipping wine and
> spinning philosophical tales deep into the night. recipient of a grammy
> nomination, he was also honored with a lifetime achievement award by ascap,
> the american society of composers authors and publishers.
>
>
> van ronk is survived by his wife andrea vuocolo. memorial services are
> pending.
>
>
>
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got this from the philly folk music list. he was an amazing influence on many a folk musician and folk music lover.
deb


subject: dave van ronk rip

for immediate release


veteran blues and folk singer dave van ronk died at approximately 9:30 am
eastern time on february 10, 2002, at new york university medical center in
manhattan. he was sixty-five years old and had been undergoing chemotherapy
treatment for colon cancer when his cardio-pulmonary system failed.


a crucial early influence on bob dylan and others of the greenwich village
school, van ronk was at the forefront of a musical generation that drew
inspiration from rural blues masters, while creating a solo performance
genre
popular with urban, college-educated audiences. beginning in the 1960's, he
toured widely, performing in coffee houses and campuses. in subsequent
years
he broadened his repertoire to encompass the traditional jazz influences of
his teenage years, art songs by the likes of bertolt brecht and joni
mitchell, and his own compositions, usually marked by an ironic
self-deprecation that eschewed sentimentality in favor of hard and beautiful
realism. ("from genghis khan to the fuller brush man/ they're all a bunch
of
losers like me.") he was also known for his solo guitar arrangements of
jazz
repertoire, especially the work of jelly roll morton. on his most recent
recording sweet and lowdown, a jazz ensemble accompanied his exploration of
popular standards like "when time goes by."


familiarly known as "the mayor of macdougal street," van ronk presided over
an apartment that served as hangout pad/salon to peers like odetta, tom
paxton and peter yarrow, and a virtual graduate school to the next
generation
of guitarists, some of whom, like christine lavin, achieved broad popularity
in their own right. an engaging raconteur, he enjoyed sipping wine and
spinning philosophical tales deep into the night. recipient of a grammy
nomination, he was also honored with a lifetime achievement award by ascap,
the american society of composers authors and publishers.


van ronk is survived by his wife andrea vuocolo. memorial services are
pending.

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hi folks,
rec'd this from u.s.a. today.. press release
date: sun, 10 feb 2002 19:06:29 est
subject: dave van ronk rip
for immediate release

veteran blues and folk singer dave van ronk died at approximately 9:30 am
eastern time on february 10, 2002, at new york university medical center in
manhattan. he was sixty-five years old and had been undergoing chemotherapy
treatment for colon cancer when his cardio-pulmonary system failed.

a crucial early influence on bob dylan and others of the greenwich village
school, van ronk was at the forefront of a musical generation that drew
inspiration from rural blues masters, while creating a solo performance
genre
popular with urban, college-educated audiences. beginning in the 1960's, he
toured widely, performing in coffee houses and campuses. in subsequent
years
he broadened his repertoire to encompass the traditional jazz influences of
his teenage years, art songs by the likes of bertolt brecht and joni
mitchell, and his own compositions, usually marked by an ironic
self-deprecation that eschewed sentimentality in favor of hard and beautiful
realism. ("from genghis khan to the fuller brush man/ they're all a bunch
of
losers like me.") he was also known for his solo guitar arrangements of
jazz
repertoire, especially the work of jelly roll morton. on his most recent
recording sweet and lowdown, a jazz ensemble accompanied his exploration of
popular standards like "when time goes by."

familiarly known as "the mayor of macdougal street," van ronk presided over
an apartment that served as hangout pad/salon to peers like odetta, tom
paxton and peter yarrow, and a virtual graduate school to the next
generation
of guitarists, some of whom, like christine lavin, achieved broad popularity
in their own right. an engaging raconteur, he enjoyed sipping wine and
spinning philosophical tales deep into the night. recipient of a grammy
nomination, he was also honored with a lifetime achievement award by ascap,
the american society of composers authors and publishers.

van ronk is survived by his wife andrea vuocolo. memorial services are
pending.


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this is great...
town rallies to fight hate
by 365gay.com newscenter staff
(february 11, missoula, mt) residents and community leaders packed a
missoula church on the weekend to show a lesbian couple and their infant son
that not everyone in the montana town is bigoted after someone attempted to
kill the family by torching their house.
last week, someone broke into the home of carla grayson and adrianne as they
slept and set it on fire (story) the arson attack came after the couple
filed a discrimination suit against the university of montana for not
granting partnership benefits. grayson is a psychology professor at the
university.
more than 700 people, friends and colleagues, but mainly strangers, attended
the rally to show support for grayson and neff.
as the couple entered the hall, a cheer went up. many of the people hugged
the women as they walked down the isle towards the stage.
neff said they vowed not to let the fire change their view of the community
where they've lived for almost two years.
"'i feel like i'm putting my family in the hands of this community,'' neff
said. ''and that's a good place to be.'
jean curtiss, a missoula county commissioner, said: ''we are here to show
our community and our country that missoula does not tolerate hate."
with tears in her eyes curtiss said: "adrianne and carla experienced terror;
the terror of being in a house on fire, the terror of their child being in
danger, the terror of knowing someone wanted them to die.''
state rep. kristine kaufmann, d-helena, who is a lesbian and the co-director
of the montana human rights network, said the arson attack was a frightening
reminder that some will "stop at nothing to try to silence those whose
lifestyles are different."
"these women were selected because of who they represent a group of people
who refuse to be silent," said kaufmann.
another local member of the assembly, rep. ron erickson, d-missoula, called
those responsible for the fire "cowards."

but, erickson also directed criticism at state commissioner of higher
education richard crofts and the state board of regents, saying they had
forced the very public lawsuit by not voluntarily extending benefits to gay
couples.
"we are awaiting an act of courage from the commissioner, and i hope we see
it soon," he said.
police say they are no further in finding whoever set the fire. police capt.
bob reid said investigators have determined that the person who broke into
neff and grayson's home poured a flammable liquid throughout the house
before setting it on fire.
police are treating the blaze as attempted murder.
a day before the fire, and just two days after they filed their lawsuit,
grayson and neff and another lesbian couple, carol snetsinger and nancy
siegel, received threatening letters in the mail.
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you know? three times we were all asked to drop this thread, and this
subject has gone on since friday(?) i think it's time to bury the
hatchet.
peace
barb
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hi twin cities listees,
anyone who would be interested in posting
concert flyers around town in exchange for
a cd and ticket to the tret fure show on march 16,
please e-mail me. i haven't yet had a response
from my last e-mail about this. this is a chance
to see a great show and help spread the word
about an artist who's been at the forefront of
contemporary women's music. tret's
considered an icon, a legend, and now she's
a midwesterner just like us, happily living in
madison and running a new store called
tomboy girl.
your help would be greatly appreciated.
if you aren't interested in helping post, any
kind of info you can supply me as to the best
places to mail flyers for distribution....e.g.
community centers, women's groups, etc,
would be great too.
thanks,
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i'm very new to the mp3/downloading thing, but my husband just found the morpheus website and there were no ig songs to download.
what website are you all using where we can find some ig songs-specifically new stuff?
thanks
rena
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subject: birthdays (february 11th - 17th, 2002)
howdy all - here's the shout out for the week from ye olde birthday
goddess *heh*
february 11
chocobo11@aol.com (elizabeth)
"chickenman, chickenman, chickenman hold my hand...."
* indigo girls, 21 february 1989
february 14
hicktruckdriver <dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu>
february 15 ('82)
indigoanid@aol.com
the big 2-0!!!!

be happy, be safe, have fun.
much love and devotion,
audra
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it's true...my gf and i, unfortunately, cannot make it to the nyc show,
so 2 of you lucky listees (or one of you and a "friend") should buy our
tickets from us. however, should you take these tickets, you must
promise to do lots o' jumping up and down and singing along and enjoying
the nice view of our sexy grrls. you must! for those of you who haven't
been there, the bowery is excellent and intimiate!
the other issue is that the tickets are will call. so, i will sell the
tickets to the person who can call the bowery for me and find out what i
need to do to allow another person to pick up my tickets. i can't go to
the venue since i live in philly.
obviously, i only want what i paid for the tickets which was, i believe,
around $47, but i'll look that up before the transaction is done.
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this is totally non-ig-related
i have some friends who are moving home from south carolina this week, and
they're trying to cut some time out of their trip home to ct.
anyone out there know what's the shortest (time-wise) way to get up north
from sc ??
i know it's a long shot, but i also know alot of you do road trips !!!
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on sun, 10 feb 2002, amy m. wrote:
> jackson hole, wyoming (cnn) -- president bush will receive a formal energy
> department recommendation monday to store all the nation's high-level
> radioactive nuclear waste at yucca mountain, nevada, administration
> officials said sunday.
i get the whole radioactive waste is bad thing.
but i thought the problem is that the stuff is overflowing temporary
storage facilities all over, and the idea was to create a centralized
place which would be more geologically stable.
one mess where everybody can watch it seems better than many messes all
over the place.
i'm not incredibly familiar with this issue, but could somebody explain
to me (privately if deemed necessary) or on the list (information
wants to be free!) why yucca mountain is a bad idea?
darius
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yucca mountain is sacred indian grounds. <br />
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on mon, 11 feb 2002, dee yellowlees wrote:
> yucca mountain is sacred indian grounds.
i recant my skepticism.
*sigh*
darius
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date: mon, 11 feb 2002 10:10:49 -0600
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traci,
i completely agree with you. even though i tend to like the amy songs a
little more i still love emily and would never say things like the person
who started this says. i think emily's lyrics on this new album are
beautiful!!! and like you said, who wrote galileo, power of two, closer to
fine and all the huge sing alongs? i just wanted to say that i completely
agree with you. a+e=ig they both have to be there in order to have the
wonderful group that we all love so much!
take care,
mi rinda
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date: mon, 11 feb 2002 10:49:46 -0600
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i have a question for anyone more enlightened than me. :) -- some days
that doesn't take much!
anyway, does anyone know if there will be an opening act for these preview
shows or if they are just:
stand around listening to the cd
then watch a&e perform for about an hour?
that would be fine and dandy with me. but i was just wondering if we were
going to get an opener.
my other question is in regards to the boot problem child. when i got my
copy from one of you wonderful people a couple of years ago they mailed the
artwork with the cd's. that was awesome of course! now i have copied it
for another newbie and wanted to be able to either send her the artwork or
tell her where to get it. the only site that i know of, our wonderful
neil's site, doesn't have that one. can anyone tell me where to find it?
are there other sites out there with cover art that i should have
bookmarker?
thanks so much guys!!!
mi rinda
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date: mon, 11 feb 2002 11:59:56 est
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i have morpheus and there are a lot of ig stuff out there. a lot of bootleg
stuff, too.
*melody*
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i have morpheus and there are a lot of ig stuff out there. a lot of bootleg stuff, too.

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date: mon, 11 feb 2002 13:29:09 -0500
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yeah, yucca mtn is sacred indian grounds, that's a problem, and a real
one. another problem is that once you get rid of something, you have
license to make more of it. (i think amy said something about this in an
interview??) right now the government has nowhere to store it, so they
have slowed down the process of making it. part of the idea of resisting
nuclear waste storage is that it is a way to resist the manufacturing of
nuclear waste in the first place. clean energy!
chris ii, who is so not a specialist in this area.........

>
> i get the whole radioactive waste is bad thing.
> but i thought the problem is that the stuff is overflowing temporary
> storage facilities all over, and the idea was to create a centralized
> place which would be more geologically stable.
> one mess where everybody can watch it seems better than many messes all
> over the place.
> i'm not incredibly familiar with this issue, but could somebody explain
> to me (privately if deemed necessary) or on the list (information
> wants to be free!) why yucca mountain is a bad idea?
>
> darius
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date: mon, 11 feb 2002 10:53:55 -0800
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i have 1 extra ticket for slim's. it's at will call so you'll have to
meet me there. cost is $22 (ticket plus virtuous service charge). email
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date: mon, 11 feb 2002 14:02:03 -0500
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subject: re: a+e=ig=happy me! and emily the smoker?!?!
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juliana wrote re: emily:
that beautiful voice? since she stopped smokin' too she's gotten even more
range,

what?!?!?! emily smoked - is this true? as a recent ex-smoker, that is a
bit of information that would come in handy during those moments of nicotine
cravings. "if my emily can do it, so can i!" forty-one days and going
strong - yeah me!!!!
also, just wanted to thank traci for getting this emily lovefest going.
it's been great to read all the nice things people have to say about her
after the criticism she was recieving w/the new album. i personally think
that this (by) is some of em's best work. she's honed her skills quite
finely over the past 20 years, developing the great one liners she's known
for and expanding her repertoire instrumentally speaking. and speaking of
instruments, the sax solo is necessary imho to escalate and close out the
smoky jazzy feel of ygts. i think it's brilliant! there are people out
there who can't tell one ig song apart from one another because of the same
equation used for their songs: intricate acoustic guitar + exquisite lyrics
sang in beautiful harmoney = ig. since sf, the girls have been adding other
instruments to make songs more dynamic. this album has way more of a
commercial appeal than say sots & cons, and the sax solo (as well as strings
on ho) gives some of the songs, for lack of a better term, a popish hook.
plus, being hugely r&b influenced, emily is learning how to use more jazz
and blues instrumentation to develop her songwriting for that genre, which i
hope she fully demonstrates in an upcoming (oh please, please, please,
please) emily saliers solo album :-)
can you tell i'm an emily fan?
peace,
joey
btw, does anyone else think that "winthrop" is one of the best emily songs
ever? she should play more piano.
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that beautiful voice? since she stopped smokin' too she's gotten even= more range,


what?!?!?! emily smoked - is this true? as a recent ex-smoker, = that is a bit of information that would come in handy during those moments o= f nicotine cravings. "if my emily can do it, so can i!" &nbs= p;forty-one days and going strong - yeah me!!!!

also, just wanted to thank traci for getting this emily lovefest going. &nb= sp;it's been great to read all the nice things people have to say about her = after the criticism she was recieving w/the new album. i personally th= ink that this (by) is some of em's best work. she's honed her skills q= uite finely over the past 20 years, developing the great one liners she's kn= own for and expanding her repertoire instrumentally speaking. and spea= king of instruments, the sax solo is necessary imho to escalate and close ou= t the smoky jazzy feel of ygts. i think it's brilliant! there ar= e people out there who can't tell one ig song apart from one another because= of the same equation used for their songs: intricate acoustic guitar = + exquisite lyrics sang in beautiful harmoney =3d ig. since sf, the girl= s have been adding other instruments to make songs more dynamic. this = album has way more of a commercial appeal than say sots & cons, and the = sax solo (as well as strings on ho) gives some of the songs, for lack of a b= etter term, a popish hook. plus, being hugely r&b influenced, emil= y is learning how to use more jazz and blues instrumentation to develop her = songwriting for that genre, which i hope she fully demonstrates in an upcomi= ng (oh please, please, please, please) emily saliers solo album :-)

can you tell i'm an emily fan?

peace,
joey

btw, does anyone else think that "winthrop" is one of the best em= ily songs ever? she should play more piano.
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thanks
dave
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i hope someone is able to record this as i am certainly curious as to
how they sound. as i went to set up everything on my computer to record
the stream, i found out that kbco's streaming software, will not work on
either windoze-nt or mac. my first and second options. pitty. anyway, i
am sure there will be some commentary about this show. enjoy - those
that can of course. - todd
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-also, moving it all there poses a risk, many meses
moving is even worse than many messes. does that make
sense? and yes, yucca mountain is sacred, which makes
the whole thing unacceptable anyways. :)
good for you for asking. it always makes sense to ask,
in my mind.
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date: mon, 11 feb 2002 16:20:04 -0500
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hey all,
i know this got passed around before...anyone know the password for the minneapolis show? a friend is trying to get tickets.....since i am not in that area i didn't pay attention.
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in fact, weren't all the sites suggested for this sacred indian ground?
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>in fact, weren't all the sites suggested for this sacred indian ground?
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that would certainly fit the historical pattern
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yucca mountain info:
to get at least a few perspectives...
honor the earth's website on it:
<http://honorearth.org/nuclear/no_place.html>
local community information site:
<http://www.yuccamountainfacts.org/>
the government's project page: <http://www.ymp.gov/>


> i live in nevada and am somewhat familiar with the
> arguments against yucca mtn, however i had never
> heard this one before. could you direct me to a
> source where i could learn more?

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so, i sat in my daughter's room and used her pc just to hear this show
and could watch the webcam pics but found no freaking way to hear the
damned show. very very frustrating. i sent them nasty mail
but i needed to vent
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can someone send me the link for the art to the become you preview & a
la cart cd collection? thanks in advance - todd
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why in the world would you send the radio station a nasty email, when in
fact, their streaming audio was working just fine?? maybe you should have
sent them an email asking what you were doing wrong. then maybe they would
have helped you to hear the re-broadcast this evening. do you think the
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why in the world would you send the radio station a nasty email, when in fact, their streaming audio was working just fine?? maybe you should have sent them an email asking what you were doing wrong. then maybe they would have helped you to hear the re-broadcast this evening. do you think the people that read your email are the ones setting up the websites and audio?
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i'm local and was able to record the studio c broadcast onto a reference
grade metal tape, on a quality analog deck.
after my indigo travels, i will make the source material available to a list
volunteer (anybody?), with quality equipment (i don't burn, yet), who can
transfer it to disc. please do not make this available to anyone intending
to distribute it commercially.
so, those of you who missed it, you can breathe easy. you'll have to be
patient, but you will eventually have access to it.
actually, it would be great if someone in each market with an in-studio
performance would make a quality master and then maybe someone could compile
all of the cities on cd-r. just a thought.
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i'm local and was able to record the studio c broadcast onto a reference grade metal tape, on a quality analog deck.

after my indigo travels, i will make the source material available to a list volunteer (anybody?), with quality equipment (i don't burn, yet), who can transfer it to disc. please do not make this available to anyone intending to distribute it commercially.

so, those of you who missed it, you can breathe easy. you'll have to be patient, but you will eventually have access to it.

actually, it would be great if someone in each market with an in-studio performance would make a quality master and then maybe someone could compile all of the cities on cd-r. just a thought.

lauren
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subject: re: link to the become you preview & a la cart cd art?
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i'll send it to the entire list since i've had more than one request for
the page:
<http://www.bonster.com/indigo/coverart.html>

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on mon, 11 feb 2002, todd green wrote:
> can someone send me the link for the art to the become you preview & a
> la cart cd collection? thanks in advance - todd
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for those of you that missed the live pictures from the studio c webcam, i
saved some of them. you can see them at
<http://photos.yahoo.com/msdahms> in the album named 'indigo girls'
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howdy ya'll,
this is just really upsetting! just last semester in
college i had to do a 30 minute speech for my
envriomental issues class on yucca mountain and the
nuclear waste they want to cart across the country to
bury in their sacred land. i even used the studio
version of "bury my heart..." for the presentation,
which people agreed on my eval was one of the most
interesting parts. yeah for my girls.
anyway, if anyone has any questions about it, i might
be able to answer some of them, or at least giv you an
idea. it *is* a bad thing to do, as is skull valley
in utah, but that's a whole other kettle of fish.
peace and love ya'll.
chris talbot wrote: yeah, yucca mtn is sacred indian
grounds, that's a problem, and a realone. another
problem is that once you get rid of something, you
havelicense to make more of it. (i think amy said
something about this in aninterview??) right now the
government has nowhere to store it, so theyhave slowed
down the process of making it. part of the idea of
resistingnuclear waste storage is that it is a way to
resist the manufacturing ofnuclear waste in the first
place. clean energy!chris ii, who is so not a
specialist in this area.........>> i get the whole
radioactive waste is bad thing.> but i thought the
problem is that the stuff is overflowing temporary>
storage facilities all over, and the idea was to
create a centralized> place which would be more
geologically stable.> one mess where everybody can
watch it seems better than many messes all> over the
place.> i'm not incredibly familiar with this issue,
but could somebody explain> to me (privately if deemed
necessary) or on the list (information> wants to be
free!) why yucca mountain is a bad idea?>> darius>>
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hey folks,
this was sent to the news-only list but it's more appropriate for here instead.
please direct any replies to the original sender at gidget10@aol.com, not to
me.
cheers,
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hi everyone,
does anybody have or know how to obtain two tickets for the philly show at
the tla? it sold out in a few hours and i missed the boat :(
thanks,
kristen
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i will apologize to the group for the "semi-crabby" email i sent out earlier
today in response to "comgee@pacbell.net" in her attempt to hear the kbco
broadcast. i will not, however, apologize to her. i received probably the
nastiest reply to an email i have ever seen. according to her, i have my
head in a place that is physically impossible and that i am a flaming a-hole.
and then i was told that "i" needed to learn some manners. i never once
called tami lafrank a name. as you sit behind your computer, tami lafrank,
think about what you type before you hit send. i may be the one with water
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i will apologize to the group for the "semi-crabby" email i sent out earlier today in response to "comgee@pacbell.net" in her attempt to hear the kbco broadcast. i will not, however, apologize to her. i received probably the nastiest reply to an email i have ever seen. according to her, i have my head in a place that is physically impossible and that i am a flaming a-hole. and then i was told that "i" needed to learn some manners. i never once called tami lafrank a name. as you sit behind your computer, tami lafrank, think about what you type before you hit send. i may be the one with water as you are dying of thirst in the desert.


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hi all!
thanks to ehren's who told when the re-run of the show would be on, i
just got a really good recording of it, both on tape and on the puter.
they played moment of forgiveness, least complicated and our
deliverance and there were mini-interviews between the songs... funny
thing was that emily actually talked about how recently things between
her and amy have changed around, so that now amy is the more
prolific one...
anyhoo... they also said (well, not they themselves but the host said it
after the show) that they'll be back in the area in spring/summer.
:)
i'll do some editing on the stuff and then anyone who want's it can get it
via icq or mail or something...
:)
i can't really start a boot tree for it right now...
maybe somebody else has the time for that?
be well,
kathrin
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opening night of the tour. great crowd. the place was packed with
enthusiastic fans. colorado is one of the best places to see them, imo
(largely thanks to kbco's long term support). good energy all around, at
least in front of the stage where i was.
set list was as follows:
map
3 hits
collecting you
yield
deconstruction
gone
saving me
become you
cold beer
moment
deliverance
chickenman/bitterroot
the shows are intended to be more like 45 minutes. this one ran just over an
hour. everything was on the set list except for ch/bi. but there was no way
they could stop without giving the enthusiastic house an upbeat crowd pleaser.
i just wish it had been anything but chickenman. (but that's just me.)
it's a real shame that they didn't do a better job of coordinating the club
tour to be even a few weeks after the album release. the crowd was certainly
engaged and interested in the new material, but it's tough when it's not even
familiar. there was a core group of us up front who knew it pretty well, but
that wasn't enough to sustain the energy.
during all of the familiar songs, which in this crowd was everything
commercially available, the place was electric and filled with singing
voices. amy commented multiple times about how good it sounded (and i
believe she was sincere).
as for me, i was terribly disappointed in the set list. i expected plenty of
new material, and that was a-ok by me. after all, that's what this is all
about. my disappointment was the other stuff. just none of the stuff i
really like.
hopefully i'll hear watershed at at least one of the shows. (ironically,
they started doing it last year after receiving dozens of requests at the
denver shows.)
very cool that tanya, elizabeth, "cara", jill, garian, and kat were all in
the front row.
very cool to have my mother, sister, brother and many other wonderful friends
there.
a good time was had by all.
lauren

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opening night of the tour. great crowd. the place was packed with enthusiastic fans. colorado is one of the best places to see them, imo (largely thanks to kbco's long term support). good energy all around, at least in front of the stage where i was.

set list was as follows:
map
3 hits
collecting you
yield
deconstruction
gone
saving me
become you
cold beer
moment
deliverance

chickenman/bitterroot

the shows are intended to be more like 45 minutes. this one ran just over an hour. everything was on the set list except for ch/bi. but there was no way they could stop without giving the enthusiastic house an upbeat crowd pleaser.

i just wish it had been anything but chickenman. (but that's just me.)

it's a real shame that they didn't do a better job of coordinating the club tour to be even a few weeks after the album release. the crowd was certainly engaged and interested in the new material, but it's tough when it's not even familiar. there was a core group of us up front who knew it pretty well, but that wasn't enough to sustain the energy.

during all of the familiar songs, which in this crowd was everything commercially available, the place was electric and filled with singing voices. amy commented multiple times about how good it sounded (and i believe she was sincere).

as for me, i was terribly disappointed in the set list. i expected plenty of new material, and that was a-ok by me. after all, that's what this is all about. my disappointment was the other stuff. just none of the stuff i really like.

hopefully i'll hear watershed at at least one of the shows. (ironically, they started doing it last year after receiving dozens of requests at the denver shows.)

very cool that tanya, elizabeth, "cara", jill, garian, and kat were all in the front row.

very cool to have my mother, sister, brother and many other wonderful friends there.

a good time was had by all.

lauren

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<yeah, yucca mtn is sacred indian grounds, that's a problem, and a real
one. another problem is that once you get rid of something, you have
license to make more of it. (i think amy said something about this in =
an
interview??) >
this is a real problem. we're dealing with it here in nh, not with =
nuclear waste, but with "progress". a local "science center" wants to =
expand, (the locals don't want the expansion - the board is made up of =
people from away) and has been digging in ancient burial grounds, sacred =
fire pit areas, living areas, and $$$$$ talks. we've protested, gone on =
the media, gone to the authorities and nothing. $$$ talks. once our =
sacred places are taken, our ancestors disturbed, that's it. and =
there's the old saying, "what would you do if we dug up your =
grandmother?!?!" it's completely different when the dominent society =
might have something happen to them; graves, churches, but it's ok to do =
it to the indians. they are from the past. they don't really exist =
anymore. governmental elimination..... sorry folks....but i'm still =
here!
jen (nh)


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<yeah, yucca mtn is sacred indian grounds, that's a problem, and = a=20 real
one. another problem is that once you get rid of = something, you=20 have
license to make more of it. (i think amy said something = about this=20 in an
interview??) >
this is a real = problem. =20 we're dealing with it here in nh, not with nuclear waste, but with=20 "progress". a local "science center" wants to expand, (the locals = don't=20 want the expansion - the board is made up of people from away) and has = been=20 digging in ancient burial grounds, sacred fire pit areas, living areas, = and=20 $$$$$ talks. we've protested, gone on the media, gone to the = authorities=20 and nothing. $$$ talks. once our sacred places are taken, = our=20 ancestors disturbed, that's it. and there's the old saying, "what = would=20 you do if we dug up your grandmother?!?!" it's completely = different when=20 the dominent society might have something happen to them; graves, = churches, but=20 it's ok to do it to the indians. they are from the past. = they don't=20 really exist anymore. governmental elimination..... sorry=20 folks....but i'm still here!
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date: tue, 12 feb 2002 08:29:41 -0600
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hey all,
here is the cover art link for by preview and a la carte.
<http://www.bonster.com/indigo/coverart.html>
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that really sucks - when is society in general going to start realizing
what's truly important? people . . . connections to your roots . . .
connections to one's culture . . . connections to the future . . . that's
what's important - we are such a diverse society. who is so arrogant to
think that there is (or that there should be one dominat culture? sadly,
this is part of the belief (greed plays a big part of that too) that
motivates some people to disregard others, to be insensitive to others . .
.
elaine


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<yeah, yucca mtn is sacred indian grounds, that's a problem, and a real
one. another problem is that once you get rid of something, you have
license to make more of it. (i think amy said something about this in an
interview??) >
this is a real problem. we're dealing with it here in nh, not with nuclear
waste, but with "progress". a local "science center" wants to expand, (the
locals don't want the expansion - the board is made up of people from away)
and has been digging in ancient burial grounds, sacred fire pit areas,
living areas, and $$$$$ talks. we've protested, gone on the media, gone to
the authorities and nothing. $$$ talks. once our sacred places are taken,
our ancestors disturbed, that's it. and there's the old saying, "what
would you do if we dug up your grandmother?!?!" it's completely different
when the dominent society might have something happen to them; graves,
churches, but it's ok to do it to the indians. they are from the past.
they don't really exist anymore. governmental elimination..... sorry
folks....but i'm still here!
jen (nh)
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hi everyone--
i've downloaded all the songs from the new album from
various file sharing programs, but many of them are
silent--they show up in winamp or real jukebox as
having a play time of x amount of time, and when i hit
play, the program "plays" them but no sound comes
through. i have never had this problem with any mp3's
before--anyone know how to solve it? i'm thinking its
not my players, because all other mp3's play fine. it
could be though! i have no idea.
the mp3's i can't seem to get are:
become you
you've got to show
yield
our deliverance
she's saving me
nuevas senoritas
i will, of course, be buying the album when the clock
strikes midnight on the 12th.
thanks all,
amanda
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y'all probably did not get my previous post so here it is again
yes, i got a beautiful feed from kbco and got the whole interview plus i =
am making a liner from one of the cam pics. if you want a copy, send me =
a blank cdr and include two first class postage stamps for return. nothi=
ng fancy, do it today and you'll have it by mon or tues of next week. if=
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yes, i got a beautiful = feed from kbco and got the whole interview plus i am making a liner from = one of the cam pics. if you want a copy, send me a blank cdr and in= clude two first class postage stamps for return. nothing fancy, do = it today and you'll have it by mon or tues of next week. if you alr= eady know my address, just send it. if you don't, ask.
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i just pre-ordered "become you" through the tower records web site!
i know i do not get the goodies i would have gotten if i had gone through other sites but, someone gave me a tower gift card for xmas, so the order didn't really "cost" me!
i also pre-ordered the blasters upcoming boxed set; even though i won't be getting either item until march, it feels good to say i just bought music from two of my favorite bands!!!
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date: tue, 12 feb 2002 13:32:34 -0500
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despite all of the helpful info that was posted before the mn tix went
on sale, a good friend was unable to get tickets to the 3/24 first ave.
show before it sold out. while this is great for a&e, my friend is
hugely disappointed, and was really looking forward to seeing the girls
when they are playing in her hometown. therefore, if anybody has any
extra tickets to the minneapolis show (or knows of any that are still
available), please contact megan directly (as she's not on this list),
mbayles@macalester.edu, to work out the logistics. thanks, y'all.
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date: wed, 13 feb 2002 07:43:54 +1100
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hey folks,
this was sent to the news-only list but is more appropriate for here
instead. please direct any responses to the original sender at
ericfl@usa.net, not to me...
cheers,
sherlyn
---begin forwarded message---
>date: 12 feb 2002 13:39:09 mst
>from: eric <ericfl@usa.net>
>to: ig-news@smoe.org
>subject: nyc tickets?
>
>hey all,
>
>i'm looking for 2 to 3 tickets to the nyc show. i'm a huge ig fan and
>despertley searching for tkts.
>
>thanks!
>eric =^
>
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date: tue, 12 feb 2002 13:24:45 -0800
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subject: re: a+e=ig=happy me! and emily the smoker?!?!
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howdy,
i'm responding before having read all of my new mail
so please excuse me if this has already been answered.
joey: you ask about emily smoking, and while i can't
pinpoint what article, it was something off of
lifeblood, in the articles section, under the simply
emily interviews where she stated that a few years
ago-i think-she had quit smoking and that it had
helped her out a lot. i believe she was responding to
a comment about amy's voice having gotten even more
growly and intensely low, and hers having grown more
lilting and high. so yeah, surprised me too but she
does illude to cigarettes in a few songs, "amelia" for
one, so it's not completely beyond me.
and yes, "winthrop" *is* gorgeous and she should
really do more piano work, it is a completely new
outlet for her, or relatively at least, and that means
fresh songs and room for improvement, which everyone
seems concerned with on emily's account lately.
k, peace and love all!
--- joey krimple <shorje1973@home.com> wrote:
>
> juliana wrote re: emily:
>
> that beautiful voice? since she stopped smokin' too
> she's gotten even more
> range,
>
>
> what?!?!?! emily smoked - is this true? as a
> recent ex-smoker, that is a
> bit of information that would come in handy during
> those moments of nicotine
> cravings. "if my emily can do it, so can i!"
> forty-one days and going
> strong - yeah me!!!!
>
> also, just wanted to thank traci for getting this
> emily lovefest going.
> it's been great to read all the nice things people
> have to say about her
> after the criticism she was recieving w/the new
> album. i personally think
> that this (by) is some of em's best work. she's
> honed her skills quite
> finely over the past 20 years, developing the great
> one liners she's known
> for and expanding her repertoire instrumentally
> speaking. and speaking of
> instruments, the sax solo is necessary imho to
> escalate and close out the
> smoky jazzy feel of ygts. i think it's brilliant!
> there are people out
> there who can't tell one ig song apart from one
> another because of the same
> equation used for their songs: intricate acoustic
> guitar + exquisite lyrics
> sang in beautiful harmoney = ig. since sf, the
> girls have been adding other
> instruments to make songs more dynamic. this album
> has way more of a
> commercial appeal than say sots & cons, and the sax
> solo (as well as strings
> on ho) gives some of the songs, for lack of a better
> term, a popish hook.
> plus, being hugely r&b influenced, emily is learning
> how to use more jazz
> and blues instrumentation to develop her songwriting
> for that genre, which i
> hope she fully demonstrates in an upcoming (oh
> please, please, please,
> please) emily saliers solo album :-)
>
> can you tell i'm an emily fan?
>
> peace,
> joey
>
> btw, does anyone else think that "winthrop" is one
> of the best emily songs
> ever? she should play more piano.

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ok...
since *i* wasnt the first to bring this up - and it is all over the
official bbs - does anyone have at least the time of she's saving me?
honestly - i bought like 7 copies of sots, and a few of so, and i didnt get
come on now social until like - two days after it came out - but i will be
waiting with baited breath on march 12th and i have all the songs at least
live - i just totally want to hear she's saving me and a few more sttudio
tracks.
any thoughts - from what i have heard - very laid back - sorta alt.
countryish.
that wasnt a slam - listen to like wilco or uncle tupelo - what it reminded
me of.
mike r.

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mike et al.,
she's saving me studio version 5:04
-bon

on tue, 12 feb 2002, michael reynolds wrote:
> ok...
>
> since *i* wasnt the first to bring this up - and it is all over the
> official bbs - does anyone have at least the time of she's saving me?
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date: wed, 13 feb 2002 00:44:13 +0100
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hi folks!
okay, since i got so many mails in response to my bragging post about
having mp3ed the show at kbco;)... i just put moment of forgiveness
from last night's appearance at kbco on the web for you all to
download. the quality is as good as it gets when you tape it from the
stream, anybody who recorded it from the radio probably got a better
recording. their stream goes out with an audible percentage of
distortion (the distortion occurs "just" at the peaks but still, ...); at least i
couldn't find an error on my side of things.. maybe someone else can
back me up here? anybody notice a little distortion on their stream?
plus: they went straight from the commercials into moment of
forgivesness when they did the re-run and they actually left out the
first few bars, so they're missing in this recording. people who recorded
the live show, will have the full song:).
and (don't worry, i'll shut up in a sec;)) good news for everybody who
couldn't get my mp3s of the week so far because of e-mail accounts
with an attitude;)...:
the mp3 of the week will now be available for download on my site, too.
finally found a way to get that to work on geocities (not storing it on
geocities;))...
and here's the link to download the mp3s from:
<http://www.geocities.com/kathrin_ig/indigo/indigogirls.htm>
be well,
kathrin
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date: tue, 12 feb 2002 19:27:07 -0500
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i just received a phone call from the echo lounge in atlanta. evidently
their online ordering system was swamped and they are calling to verify if
we received confirmation notices via email. i don't know if they are
calling everyone. i just know my order went through ok! woo-hoo!!
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subject: igc -warning from slim's website
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i just got this off slim's website... www.slims-sf.com <http://www.slims-sf.com/>
hopefully, no one here gets stuck with expensive phony tickets!!
crazy.........

>> buyer beware! we have reports that there are counterfeit indigo girls
tickets floating around. make sure yours are authentic before you pay! <<
>beware of fraudulent indigo girls tickets. please be aware these tickets
have an identifiable code and will be turned away at the door on the night of
the show. please buy your tickets from a reliable source!<
see ya friday!
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i just got this off slim's website... www.slims-sf.com
hopefully, no one here gets stuck with expensive phony tickets!!
crazy.........


>> buyer beware! we have reports that there are counterfeit indigo girls tickets floating around. make sure yours are authentic before you pay! <<

>beware of fraudulent indigo girls tickets. please be aware these tickets have an identifiable code and will be turned away at the door on the night of the show. please buy your tickets from a reliable source!<

see ya friday!
jennifer

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hey,
i just saw on ticketmaster that tickets go onsale on the 14th (presale) and
the 15th (regular sale) at 10am cst. so the show is happening!
i have a huge favor to ask... i will be in transit on the 14th at 10am and
out of town on the 15th. could someone who is buying tickets buy one extra
for me? i will happily pay you back as soon as i get home (on the 18th).
i'd send a check or use paypal. whatever you prefer. please e-mail me if
you can help me. i asked a friend too, and i am waiting for her reply. i am
sure the show will sell out, so if i end up with two tickets, i would just
sell one (at face value). thanks!!!
:-) karen
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"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory" - emily saliers
become you, the new album by the indigo girls
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hey,

i just saw on ticketmaster that tickets go onsale on the 14th (presale) and the 15th (regular sale) at 10am cst. so the show is happening!

i have a huge favor to ask... i will be in transit on the 14th at 10am and out of town on the 15th. could someone who is buying tickets buy one extra for me? i will happily pay you back as soon as i get home (on the 18th). i'd send a check or use paypal. whatever you prefer. please e-mail me if you can help me. i asked a friend too, and i am waiting for her reply. i am sure the show will sell out, so if i end up with two tickets, i would just sell one (at face value). thanks!!!

:-) karen

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"my regrets become distractions" - amy ray
"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory" - emily saliers
become you, the new album by the indigo girls
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(glad i have a promo copy...)
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wow, and to think i broke up a fight between my 15 year old twins to get
online and read this drivel! please everybody, save the snappishness
for personal emails.
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on behalf of ehren mitzlaff
sent: monday, february 11, 2002 8:46 pm
to: indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org
subject: all ig fans are not kind
i will apologize to the group for the "semi-crabby" email i sent out
earlier today in response to "comgee@pacbell.net" in her attempt to hear
the kbco broadcast. i will not, however, apologize to her. i received
probably the nastiest reply to an email i have ever seen. according to
her, i have my head in a place that is physically impossible and that i
am a flaming a-hole. and then i was told that "i" needed to learn some
manners. i never once called tami lafrank a name. as you sit behind
your computer, tami lafrank, think about what you type before you hit
send. i may be the one with water as you are dying of thirst in the
desert.


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wow, and to = think i broke up a fight between my 15 year old twins to get online and read this drivel! please everybody, = save the snappishness for personal emails.
-----original = message-----
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sent: monday, february = 11, 2002 8:46 pm
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subject: all ig fans are = not kind
i will apologize to the group for the "semi-crabby" email i sent out earlier today in response to "comgee@pacbell.net" in her attempt to hear the kbco = broadcast. i will not, however, apologize to her. i received probably = the nastiest reply to an email i have ever seen. according to = her, i have my head in a place that is physically impossible and that i am a = flaming a-hole. and then i was told that "i" needed to learn = some manners. i never once called tami lafrank a name. as you sit = behind your computer, tami lafrank, think about what you type before you hit send. i may be the one with water as you are dying of thirst in = the desert.
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hi all. i am asking for a friend if anyone has a spare ticket for the
concert in philly on the 28th. she is looking for 2 tickets. please email
me privately.
thanks!
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can anyone help with 2 tickets to paradise????
also ..what is the deal at the radio station thing? is that with an audience
or just a radio show? does anybody know?
peace
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i'm told that ig will be making an in-studio appearance at kgsr on austin on
the local show day, th, 2/21, at noon.
further, it's my understanding that there will be a small (~30) person
audience. tune into kgsr for details.
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i'm told that ig will be making an in-studio appearance at kgsr on austin on the local show day, th, 2/21, at noon.

further, it's my understanding that there will be a small (~30) person audience. tune into kgsr for details.

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took a whole lot of years to finally get them here to e-town, but i have a
hunch that they had such a good time that they'll soon be back.
for those not familar with e-town, i encourage you to go to www.etown.org <http://www.etown.org/> to
learn more. it's an absolutely wonderful radio show that air on stations
throughout the country. we're lucky to have it taped here in boulder. great
way to check out different music and to learn about great work being done in
the world.
every show has two musical guests, an e-chievement award (which goes to a
listener who is doing some absolutely great work in their community), and
sometimes, a fascinating speaker. it's hosted by the marvelous duo of nick
and helen forster, and blessed with a great house band, the e-tones.
just fyi, nick said that this show should air in 4-6 weeks. the taping runs
about 2 hours. the final show, 1 hr.
today's award winner was an older fellow in kansas who delivers expired food
from supermarkets to food banks. took him three years before he got approval
to do it. he's now been at it 7 days/week for over three years. very cool.
nick was great with him.
the speaker was the former ceo of patagonia who is now the ceo of a
progressive organization focusing on renewable resources. gave me great
respect for patagonia as well as the work he's currently doing. great stuff.
(and, i found out after the show that a friend of mine was responsible for
setting him up as the speaker - she was looking for a way to get in for ig!)
the other musical guest was dave alvin, formerly of the blasters. a&e opened
for them many years ago, and were clearly big fans. (i had seen dave at an
e-town in years past. talented guy, but i wasn't real into the stuff he
selected for today's show.)
a&e were great, as usual. it was a great scene. good vibes in every
direction.
they opened the show with:
gone again
devotion
then nick forster, one of the hosts, conducted an interview with the both of
them, followed by:
become you
she's saving me
then all the other people. then back to ig for:
moment of forgiveness
yield
galileo
then for the encore, both guests always do a song together, along with the
e-tones. i think it was shendendoah river (sp?), but don't quote me on that.
it was an absolutely great scene. a dream come true for me, really, as i'm a
front row, e-town regular. then here i was, in my own backyard (kind of like
being at cheers) with indigo girls on the stage. very, very cool.
in the front row, we had all the right people:
garian / kat / me / daniel (10 yr old nephew at his 2nd ig show) / carolyn
from seattle / catherine / elizabeth / anglea / lucia (etown, front row
regular) / stacye / julie
2nd row:
michele / david (etown regular and new ig convert) / tanya / diane (my very
cool mom who was at both etown and the fox) / dan (etown regular and new ig
convert)
3rd row:
trish (a travelling who buddy of mine) / paul / laura / pam / deni (my dad's
wife) / ryan (5 yr old nephew) / tamara (sister) / linda
4th row:
marci (lister) and her friend
what an absolutely marvelous life experience. i only wish i had been feeling
better. unfortunately, the weather changed radically since the day before
(as it is wont to do in co), and my stil healing from car accident body
crashed out big time. :-( thank goodness for the power of adrenaline.
hope this was a good read. didn't have it in me to edit.
hope everyone has a great time in seattle and portland. i'll catch up with
you in norcal.
lauren
p.s. both shows, amy struggled with the harmonica solo in become you. imo,
it took a lot of courage to give it a go while still learning. fortunately,
they have a rather supportive crowd. at the fox show, there was talk of
kazoos for the audience. she seemed to like that idea...
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took a whole lot of years to finally get them here to e-town, but i have a hunch that they had such a good time that they'll soon be back.

for those not familar with e-town, i encourage you to go to www.etown.org to learn more. it's an absolutely wonderful radio show that air on stations throughout the country. we're lucky to have it taped here in boulder. great way to check out different music and to learn about great work being done in the world.

every show has two musical guests, an e-chievement award (which goes to a listener who is doing some absolutely great work in their community), and sometimes, a fascinating speaker. it's hosted by the marvelous duo of nick and helen forster, and blessed with a great house band, the e-tones.

just fyi, nick said that this show should air in 4-6 weeks. the taping runs about 2 hours. the final show, 1 hr.

today's award winner was an older fellow in kansas who delivers expired food from supermarkets to food banks. took him three years before he got approval to do it. he's now been at it 7 days/week for over three years. very cool. nick was great with him.

the speaker was the former ceo of patagonia who is now the ceo of a progressive organization focusing on renewable resources. gave me great respect for patagonia as well as the work he's currently doing. great stuff. (and, i found out after the show that a friend of mine was responsible for setting him up as the speaker - she was looking for a way to get in for ig!)

the other musical guest was dave alvin, formerly of the blasters. a&e opened for them many years ago, and were clearly big fans. (i had seen dave at an e-town in years past. talented guy, but i wasn't real into the stuff he selected for today's show.)

a&e were great, as usual. it was a great scene. good vibes in every direction.

they opened the show with:
gone again
devotion

then nick forster, one of the hosts, conducted an interview with the both of them, followed by:
become you
she's saving me

then all the other people. then back to ig for:
moment of forgiveness
yield
galileo

then for the encore, both guests always do a song together, along with the e-tones. i think it was shendendoah river (sp?), but don't quote me on that.

it was an absolutely great scene. a dream come true for me, really, as i'm a front row, e-town regular. then here i was, in my own backyard (kind of like being at cheers) with indigo girls on the stage. very, very cool.

in the front row, we had all the right people:
garian / kat / me / daniel (10 yr old nephew at his 2nd ig show) / carolyn from seattle / catherine / elizabeth / anglea / lucia (etown, front row regular) / stacye / julie

2nd row:
michele / david (etown regular and new ig convert) / tanya / diane (my very cool mom who was at both etown and the fox) / dan (etown regular and new ig convert)

3rd row:
trish (a travelling who buddy of mine) / paul / laura / pam / deni (my dad's wife) / ryan (5 yr old nephew) / tamara (sister) / linda

4th row:
marci (lister) and her friend

what an absolutely marvelous life experience. i only wish i had been feeling better. unfortunately, the weather changed radically since the day before (as it is wont to do in co), and my stil healing from car accident body crashed out big time. :-( thank goodness for the power of adrenaline.

hope this was a good read. didn't have it in me to edit.

hope everyone has a great time in seattle and portland. i'll catch up with you in norcal.

lauren

p.s. both shows, amy struggled with the harmonica solo in become you. imo, it took a lot of courage to give it a go while still learning. fortunately, they have a rather supportive crowd. at the fox show, there was talk of kazoos for the audience. she seemed to like that idea...
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one seattle ticket for $30. call stefani at 206-714-9474.


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one seattle ticket for $30. call stefani at 206-714-9474.


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hi all!
if anybody had trouble accessing the mp3s on my site yesterday, it's
because it was temporarily down because geocities has a traffic limit.
so, there's nothing wrong with the link or anything, if this occurs again,
just wait a couple of hours or 'til the next day and give it another try.
i'll leave moment of forgiveness up there for a couple of days and the
next file will be least complicated (also from the kbco show, of
course).
be well,
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inidgoddess19, your blank tape arrived a few days ago, so i recorded the material you wanted and mailed the tape back to you earlier this week.
media mail takes forever to be delivered, so don't be shocked if the tape does not arrive for a while!
sorry to waste everyone else's bandwidth but at least this is igc!
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greetings to all in the land of indigo!
i was on the amazon.com site and noticed that there were 3 'versions' of become you available:
1) by with the bonus cd
2) by (without the bonus cd)
3) by si [sacd] available 3/26 priced around $20.00
does anyone know what the #3 cd is about, what si [sacd]
means? seems like us die hard fans are going to be shelling out some big dough and owning 3 copies of by so we can get the 3 different bonus cds that are going to be floating around out there. start saving your pennies ;)
take care and peace!
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it is referring to a super audio cd...something sony has dreamed up..
<http://www.sonymusic.com/sacd/>

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hkf's,
bad news folks (for me and for others i'm sure). i
just got an e-mail last night from janet at echo
lounge saying that even thought i got a confirmation
e-mail about the show, my order did not go through. i
also got a phone call from lisa at echo and she was
just asking if i got a confirmation e-mail, which i
did, but apparently b/c their system is not a
real-time ticketing system - mine (and a friend as
well) both got negged.
so, check on your orders by:
(1) make sure you got a confirmation e-mail.
(2) follow-up to see if you're on the list by phone or
e-mail. (probably best not to leave a voice mail and
just try to call back and talk to somebody - most
likely in the pm since it's a bar and all).
now, back to me, since i'm totally screwed right now -
does anybody have an extra tix to the echo show?!?!
anything would be great b/c right now i'm listening to
become you from the parking lot and it's a sketchy
area so you would not want to leave me out there all
by myself!!! (sorry, i'm a little hyper right now).
but let me know if you have a miracle and thanks in
advance for your kindness. =)
-mike
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> atlanta. evidently
> their online ordering system was swamped and they
> are calling to verify if
> we received confirmation notices via email. i don't
> know if they are
> calling everyone. i just know my order went through
> ok! woo-hoo!!
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wake up seattle!
it's show day!!!!!
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hey mel,
my gf called the river and they said it would be a contest and only 1
listener would be allowed in....i assume they could bring a guest, but don't
quote me on that.i also have no details about this "contest" but if you
listen to the river (92.5) i am sure you will get all the details.
janet
p.s. kathy if you win this too, then i need to rub your head for luck.....
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i have two extra tickets to tonights show at the crocodile.
i should be down there shortly after 6pm.
i am on digest, so if you reply to the list i probably won't see it.
my work phone is 206-768-6403
paulal
oh yeah, i am not a scalper. you pay what i paid
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howdy ya'll,
i'm thrilled the girls have finally officially gotten
with the orpheum and that the concert is on! but what
i need to know desperately is that with this presale
tomorrow at 10am, is there some sort of password or
membership required? i need to know this because i
will be in a stupid class come this time of day and
have to have someone i don't entirely trust get me
these two tickets and i want to make it as simple and
obvious as i can for him so if ya'll can let me know
soon tonight, please do, they go on sale tomorrow and
i fully intend to finish what i started here! peace
and love, thanks!
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hey guys i have an extra seattle ticket for tonight
for 20 bucks
call me at 206 226 3185
thanks!
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what a totally awesome show.
and if it makes emily feel any better, i don't disapprove of the virginia
wolfe lyric change to "the batches were hattened..." i think they could
have gone on from there... well, if they could have stopped laughing
anyhow. ;-)
awesome show. they get better every single time. can't wait 'till they
return, as promised, this summer.
hope someone booted. hope someone had a camera that was not messed up like
ours was by all the red in the spotlights tonight... not sure if any we
took will be acceptable.
if you have the chance - go see them on this demo tour. awesome.


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yep, i have to agree. i ate faaar too much food and drank waaay too many
chai teas waiting for the show. but we were right up front, emily side. they
are on! they really love playing here. they played breanna's fave, virginia
woolf and we got a jamming version of chickenman. we thought about booting
but then decided not to. now i wish we had. before they played, i'd decided
by is one of the top two in my list of faves. afterwards, i said it was my
favorite cd.
and! i got two picks which i gave away (one hit bre on the leg and she
quickly covered it with her foot and one landed right next to my hand so i
quickly scooped it up. but, i already have 3 cons (or was it sots?) picks so
i gave them to another listee. then came the wait. and wait. and wait. but!
i got my guitar signed! and i got to tell amy how i think the new cd is
soooo wonderful! she appreciated hearing that. so what kind of fixative can
i use to protect the sigs? i had one of those silver pens they signed with.
ryan (who absolutely cannot wait to have them back for the summer and
roadtrip!)
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> [<mailto:indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org>]on behalf of tracy & da
> swampdogs
> what a totally awesome show.
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seattle was awesome! :)
small venue but was still able to find some space (by the door) to dance in circles!! :)
i love this cd!!! :) the girls looked and sounded so great!! :)
:) :) :)
and ryan, i think i saw you standing outside w/ your guitar! :) how awesome!
later people!
kara.
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date: thu, 14 feb 2002 09:12:32 -0600
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any info on this? it's happening real soon...
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date: thu, 14 feb 2002 11:23:15 est
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here's the deal about madison tix...
yes, it is an internet only presele. but you do not need a password. just go to ticketmaster and grab your tix!
hahaha! i think this goes in the "you know you're obsessed when..." files. here i am on a computer at the airport. i am flying to san francisco in 45 mins to see my boyfriend and go to slim's. but since madison tix went onsale today, i had to find a computer here at the airport (my friend is in a meeting). hahah. anyway, i am being charged up the wazoo for this so i need to go.
just need to get chicago tix on the 21st, and my 6 shows are set!
:-) karen
ps- catherine s. i saw the post on the board!!! thanks! you rock! i am so glad the atlanta tix are ok. feel better!
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date: thu, 14 feb 2002 11:04:26 -0600
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ok, i hate to bring up the superbowl, since i am from st. louis and the rams
were pretty embarrassing, but, i missed the pre-show, and no doubt was one
of the bands that played (gwen rocks!!!!) anyway, i wondered if anyone here
recorded it. i would like to make a trade for a copy of just the pre-show,
no need for a copy of the game.
thanks!!!
traci
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hey folks,
this was sent to the news-only list but it's more appropriate for
here instead. please direct any replies to the original sender at
rwalling@llnl.gov not to me, thanks...
-sherlyn
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>subject: any sf tickets available?
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>hi,
>
>i'd really love to find 1-2 more tickets for sf slim's.... any
>leads? please email me at rswalling@yahoo.com.
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>thanks! -rosemary
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date: thu, 14 feb 2002 14:07:00 -0600
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heads up people! i just got word that ig is scheduled to appear...but
they didn't say when
they just said "keep watching the website for more details."
peace
barb
ps i emailed charlie rose show and that was their responce.
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date: thu, 14 feb 2002 15:43:19 -0500
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aarrgh! i was all ready to wait in line to get great seats to see the girls
play in portland tonight, but now i can't go! instead i'll be spending the
evening playing a very tiny part as a russian refugee in a war scene of a
movie paramount is filming in town. so i hope all of you who go will fill me
in! i'll be thinking of ig longingly while i'm covered in greasy make-up
laying in the mud tonight...
elle
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date: thu, 14 feb 2002 15:53:15 -0500
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>i'll be thinking of ig longingly while i'm covered in greasy make-up
>laying in the mud tonight...
gee, sounds kinda kinky - i'm feeling little bit turned on!
elaine
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date: thu, 14 feb 2002 17:44:04 -0500
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at 11:04 am 2/14/02 -0600, traci drago wrote:
>ok, i hate to bring up the superbowl, since i am from st. louis and the rams
>were pretty embarrassing, but, i missed the pre-show,

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hey -
sorta the same plea - did anyone get the u2 half time show?!? - i didnt
record it because i figured it would be encoded and - well - i want to
encode it to vcd - that was a amazing 3 song set...
...he who was at the u2 dvd recording in boston.
mike r.

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date: thu, 14 feb 2002 16:07:23 -0800
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does anyone know of a good ani difranco email list? hopefully similar
to this one? and how to go about signing up? thanks.
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date: thu, 14 feb 2002 23:07:36 -0500
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several weeks ago someone posted an article about some scientists
that had found a way to fertilize a human egg with another egg. does
anyone remember this? my friend would like the link to that if anybody
has it. feel free to email me privately.
thanks
jer
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