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date: thu, 21 feb 2002 23:48:33 -0600
reply-to: greg flamer <gflame@ameritech.net>
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from: greg flamer <gflame@ameritech.net>
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> just wanted to let ya'll know that there are quite a few chicago tix on
> ebay. i didn't look at them all, since i am not in the market for them, but
> maybe some of them are close to face value, you might want to check it out.
the chicago tix sale was a fiasco imo. i have seen some postings about the
wxrt sale being a presale. i highly doubt this. the only tix left are the
ones that will be sold by scalpers at the door. the metro chicago website
lists the event as sold out. as stated above, i saw a slew of tix for sale
on ebay. pretty tacky as the cost of a ticket is $20 and many of the
starting ebay prices were as high as $80. not to start that debate again.
i tried to get in via ticketbastard. i had my password and got in right at
10am. i got booted out 3 times by the site being prompted for ticketbastard
passwords and random things. each time i got some error message. it was
so stressful. i also noticed some other web ordering stuff that really
bugged me. ticketbastard defaults the shipping of tix to the most expensive
2 day priority. as you are rushing to type in your info you could easily
glance over that and get scammed even more. a $20 ticket ends up costing
almost $30. i fail to see why ig mgmt would then add another quirk of
needing passwords via a radio station that has to be emailed to you the
night before. it's just so ridiculous. i never got my tix via the web as
they were sold out in minutes and i was booted out. thank goodness the beau
has connections at work and has hooked us up last minute. so i am lucky and
get to go but i can imagine how many disappointed fans there are who jumped
through all the hoops and were still turned away. the potential for rage
could have occurred this morning and i fail to understand the process.
anyone in the concert industry that can shed some light on the whys of
passwords and other nonsense just to sell tix? done ranting for now...greg
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date: fri, 22 feb 2002 00:55:32 est
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from: "karen r." <indigokare@aol.com>
subject: chicago tickets on ebay
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wow. i never post this much. i promise this will be my last post for the
day. :)
anyway, most of the ebay prices for chicago tickets are outrageous. i don't
want to get into this debate again (i suppose it is supply and demand, right
neil? :) ), but one seller on ebay is selling pairs of tickets for like $158
and claiming that he is selling them at face value. he has a disclaimer that
he is following the law and that he will not accept bids over the face value.
that's bulls*it! $20 (plus tm fees) is face value. not $70+ per ticket.
i know that it won't do anything, but i did e-mail him to call him on that
one. i just needed to get that off my chest. it sucks that there are so
many ig fans w/o tickets and he is lying about tha face value. ryan, do you
have any other suggestions?
i suppose there are some "deals" out there on ebay, but this isn't one of
them.
:-) karen
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wow. i never post this much. i promise this will be my last post for the day. :)

anyway, most of the ebay prices for chicago tickets are outrageous. i don't want to get into this debate again (i suppose it is supply and demand, right neil? :) ), but one seller on ebay is selling pairs of tickets for like $158 and claiming that he is selling them at face value. he has a disclaimer that he is following the law and that he will not accept bids over the face value. that's bulls*it! $20 (plus tm fees) is face value. not $70+ per ticket.

i know that it won't do anything, but i did e-mail him to call him on that one. i just needed to get that off my chest. it sucks that there are so many ig fans w/o tickets and he is lying about tha face value. ryan, do you have any other suggestions?

i suppose there are some "deals" out there on ebay, but this isn't one of them.

:-) karen

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date: fri, 22 feb 2002 01:56:08 -0800
reply-to: ryan@hawke2.com
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from: ryan blackhawke <ryan@hawke2.com>
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here is the law for the state of illinois:
illinois: ebay permits resales of tickets at no greater than face value for
all entertainment events in the state. however, ticket brokers licensed in
the state of illinois are not covered by this rule, and may accept any price
for tickets provided that their listing contains their illinois registration
number in listings for events in illinois.
so, if he does not have his broker's # on the listing, you can write to
timesensitive@ebay.com and have them cancel it. a good idea to copy that
part of the policy for them so they can quickly see it is in direct
violation. also, tell them what real face value for these tickets is. cc
safeharbor@ebay.com as well.
now, did he start the bidding at $158? or did bidders bid it up and that is
what it is at? regardless, he failed to cancel overbids hence, it is an
illegal auction.
ryan
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i don't want to get into this debate again (i suppose it is supply and
demand, right neil? :) ), but one seller on ebay is selling pairs of tickets
for like $158 and claiming that he is selling them at face value. he has a
disclaimer that he is following the law and that he will not accept bids
over the face value. that's bulls*it! $20 (plus tm fees) is face value.
not $70+ per ticket.
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date: fri, 22 feb 2002 01:57:37 -0800
reply-to: ryan@hawke2.com
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from: ryan blackhawke <ryan@hawke2.com>
subject: re: chicago tix
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> -----original message-----
> from: indigo girls mailing list
> [<mailto:indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org>]on behalf of greg flamer
> anyone in the concert industry that can shed some light on the whys of
> passwords and other nonsense just to sell tix? done ranting for
> now...greg
well, i am not in the concert industry but i htink the apssword thing is
something the girls probably have no control over. if a radio station is
sponsoring the concert, they are more than likely marketing the concert to
their loyal audience, which is why several have "vip" programs. so they
think it some sort of perk to get concert tix with a password for joining
their network.
ryan
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date: fri, 22 feb 2002 04:40:56 -0800
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subject: re: the river - boston - and another boston radio show
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no idea -
i'm envious that you can participate at all - i can't
even get the river in maine -
also wbos (located in the prudential center) is doing
a session at 5:30 that i think is webcast...
i should be able to finagle a few devices to get the
radio station while probably in line next friday.
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date: fri, 22 feb 2002 08:49:26 est
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hey, did anyone catch amy ray on digital radio last night? it was the radio that comes through digital cable boxes. my cable is with charter, but i don't think that matters. anyway, it was called lifetracks and they played songs from her solo album as well as from ig albums spliced with this cool interview. we stumbled on it and just wondered if anyone else called it. i think it was called lifetracks. anyone ever heard it?
amanda
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date: fri, 22 feb 2002 09:05:24 -0500
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hey...
<<anyway, most of the ebay prices for chicago tickets are outrageous... i
suppose it is supply and demand, right neil? :)>>
that's right. supply and demand. economics 101:
small venues + cheap tickets = major shortage of tickets
i suggest they name it "the indigo girls piss a whole lot of people off"
tour.
if they really wanted to do the small venue thing they could (should?) have
gone the melissa etheridge route and priced the tickets much higher, but
then there'd still be unhappy people. look at, er, melissa etheridge...
or, done ticket sales to 'fan club' members, but then there'd still be - you
get the idea...

spare tickets are one thing - you're not going to lose out personally by
selling it, but here's a hypothetical question for you all:
you're outside the venue on the night of the show, one ticket in hand. your
ticket. in fact, your only ticket to the entire indigo girls tour. the doors
are open and you're moving ever closer to the entrance...
someone comes up to you and says "i'll give you face value for that ticket".
do you sell? how about $100? $1,000? $1,000,000? (an evening of hot freaky
sex with amy and emily?)
when do you sell?
neil
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date: fri, 22 feb 2002 09:12:20 -0500
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subject: the river - boston
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i think they give away one pair of tickets per day. when i hear it, i'll
post again to let you know.
i was lucky to be the first winner of this contest - i won on wednesday
(gasp) - caller #15.
i think that all the people who win the tickets, meet & greet, and cd are in
the running for the river music hall which gets decided on 2/27.
have a great weekend
an excited happy camper
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i think they give away one pair of = tickets per day. when i hear it, i'll post again to let you = know.
i was lucky to be the first winner of = this contest - i won on wednesday (gasp) - caller #15.
i think that all the people who win = the tickets, meet & greet, and cd are in the running for the river = music hall which gets decided on 2/27.
have a great weekend
an excited happy camper
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date: fri, 22 feb 2002 08:28:08 -0600
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i think one thing that hasn't been address is the fact that many people buy the
whole ticket limit with the idea that i don't need 6 tickets but i better get 6
in case i find out that someone else wants to go the night before the show.
i've heard many people say things equivalent to this on this list several
times. in this case you blame the ticket buyer that is hording all of tickets,
and the venue for allowing a 6 ticket limit. but who am i to bitch, i have
gotten into every show, i ever wanted(including sold out ones) except one
primus show in 97, and i think i could have done that if i would have chose to
stick it out.
btw, i only got 2 tix for the echo lounge show.

> "i'll give you face value for that ticket".
> do you sell? how about $100? $1,000? $1,000,000?
>
not at $100, but if some idiot will shell out $1000, sold. i 'm waiting for
some joker to offer a million, with that you get both tickets and the beer is
on me!
my $0.02-
todd
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date: fri, 22 feb 2002 09:13:57 -0600
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thanks for the review michael,
i cannot wait for march 12th so that i can get my own copy. i have heard
about half of the studio versions and i love them. hope alone is wonderful.
but deconstruction and moment are my favorites of what i have heard. not
that much of a wait anymore guys. i look forward to reading everyone's
reviews of the new album.
:)
happy friday!! (it has been a long week)
mi rinda
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date: fri, 22 feb 2002 09:27:18 -0600
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greg,
can't say as i understand why they do things that way. but i wanted to
voice another thing of concern. the tickets for the mn show were also done
via a pre-sale through a radio station. i think that russell and the rest
of ig management need to force the stations to play the music if they get to
be in charge of ticket sales. cities97, the mn station that handled the
pre-sale, should be required to play the song x number of times per day. i
don't know what that number should be, but it should be more than never. i
listen to that station all the time because it is the only thing that
doesn't play teeny-bopper music or music by people who are dead. anyway, in
all my long hours of listening to them, and calling requesting the song,
guess how many times i have heard them play moment? twice! twice in a
month! how is that promoting the band? i really hope that next time
russell and the group handle things a little differently. at least make the
stations play the damn song.
frustrated because i want to hear ig on the radio,
mi rinda
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date: fri, 22 feb 2002 11:13:54 est
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subject: minnesota tix for sale (2)
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hi,
i have 2 minnesota tickets for sale (i am going to put one up on ebay for
face value, so if you miss out here, go there). with fees they come out to
$21 per ticket. e-mail me if you are interested. please note, i will be in
nashville this weekend for the show down there. if i don't get back to ya
right away, that is why.
:-) karen
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"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory" - emily saliers
become you, the new album by the indigo girls
in stores 12 march 2002
(glad i have a promo copy...)
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hi,

i have 2 minnesota tickets for sale (i am going to put one up on ebay for face value, so if you miss out here, go there). with fees they come out to $21 per ticket. e-mail me if you are interested. please note, i will be in nashville this weekend for the show down there. if i don't get back to ya right away, that is why.
:-) karen

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"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory" - emily saliers
become you, the new album by the indigo girls
in stores 12 march 2002
(glad i have a promo copy...)
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date: fri, 22 feb 2002 11:32:35 est
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subject: minnesota tickets (if you needed three)
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hey,
i listed my 3rd extra ticket on ebay (for face value!!!), just in case there
is a fan out there who wants tickets but is not on the bbs or this list. if
you need three, e-mail me about the first two. here is the link for the
third.
<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=1334811436>
:-) karen
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"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory" - emily saliers
become you, the new album by the indigo girls
in stores 12 march 2002
(glad i have a promo copy...)
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hey,

i listed my 3rd extra ticket on ebay (for face value!!!), just in case there is a fan out there who wants tickets but is not on the bbs or this list. if you need three, e-mail me about the first two. here is the link for the third.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=1334811436

:-) karen

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date: fri, 22 feb 2002 11:44:23 -0500
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hey kids:
get ready - joanne from the river will be give a pair of tickets away on her
free-form lunch hour - 12:00 - 1:00.
www.92.5theriver.com <http://www.92.5theriver.com/>
1-800-352-9250
what usually happens is she plays a song first, then tells you when to call.

good luck!!!!
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hey kids:
get ready - joanne from the river will be give a pair of tickets away on her free-form lunch hour - 12:00 - 1:00.
www.92.5theriver.com
1-800-352-9250
what usually happens is she plays a song first, then tells you when to call.
good luck!!!!
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hello all,
i figured it was a shot in dark, but figured that i would ask. anybody
have any extra tickets to the nashville show? i am looking for 2, if you
have 1 or 2 feel free to email me off the list.
take care -
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--- "neil :o)" <neil@andineil.com> wrote:
> do you sell? how about $100? $1,000? $1,000,000? (an
> evening of hot freaky sex with amy and emily?)
how freaky? and does jennifer baumgardner know a
martial art?
oh, heck, who cares? yeah i'd sell!!!!
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we used to have the digital cable and i had heard an amy interview before,
maybe about a year ago. they used to mention a website that you could
listen to the interview again, but i don't remember what it was. can you
check on your cable? i'd love to hear this interview.
jen (nh)
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> hey, did anyone catch amy ray on digital radio last night? it was the
radio that comes through digital cable boxes. my cable is with charter, but
i don't think that matters. anyway, it was called lifetracks and they
played songs from her solo album as well as from ig albums spliced with this
cool interview. we stumbled on it and just wondered if anyone else called
it. i think it was called lifetracks. anyone ever heard it?
>
> amanda
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hey, everybody. i am from al and i just wanted everyone to know that alabama, the heart of dixie, finally passed it where sexual orientation is considered a hate crime and has been added to our hate crimes law! :) if it can be done here, it can be done anywhere! well, maybe not texas. they still have anti-sodomy laws there.
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hey, wasn't there an amy ray aka neil finn thread on this list a few
years back?
spooky.
-bon

on fri, 22 feb 2002, judith haitsuka wrote:
> like brothers neil and tim finn (crowded house, split enz), ray and saliers fuse well- sung harmonies, traditional songcraft and melodic choruses to support real-life stories about love, loss and survival.
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hi y'all, just in case anyone is interested. i really don't think either
blair or bush deserves a *peace* prize, but i just present the opportunity
and offer no other opinions.
peace, for us all,
eileen

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>take action! protest the nomination of george w. bush and tony blair for
>nobel peace prize
>
><http://www.eskimo.com/~cwj2/actions/bushblairnobel.html>
>
>they say that satire died when henry kissinger was awarded the nobel peace
>prize, but if a right-wing norwegian mp has his way, the nobel committee
>will be spitting on its grave.
>
>harald tom nesvik, a member of the norwegian parliament from the right-wing
>party of progress, has nominated u.k. prime minister tony blair and u.s.
>president george w. bush for the nobel peace prize for "decisive action
>against terrorism, something i believe in the future will be the greatest
>threat to peace." according to the provisions of nobel, the winner of the
>nobel peace prize "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity
>between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and
>for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."
>
>tony blair has ordered more military actions than any u.k. leader since
>world war ii, with at least one military action every year since 1998.
>george w. bush has urged budgets massively increasing the size and funding
>of the u.s. standing military, continued and deepened u.s. military aid for
>the on-going civil war in colombia and israeli military occupation of
>palestine, and initiated a war not only against afghanistan, but an
>undefined, open-ended "war on terrorism" which administration officials
>daily threaten to expand to other nations such iran, north korea, and iraq.
>vice president dick cheney told the washington post that the campaign of
>warfare the president has launched "may never end. at least, not in our
>lifetimes." both bush and blair have refused to work with multilateral
>consultation and diplomacy through peace congresses, with bush's refusal
>to secure un security council approval before initiating the war in
>afghanistan, and blair's refusal to place the british troops occupying
>sierra leone under the command of united nations peacekeeping forces.
>
>urge the nobel institute to reject the nomination of tony blair and
>george w. bush. reckless and ever-expanding pursuit of war is not peace,
>and awarding the peace prize for massive world-wide military campaigns
>would be a slap in the face of peace and justice activists world wide.
>
>for more bush and blair's nomination for the nobel peace prize, see:
><http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,645075,00.html>
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>to take action, go to:
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actually, i think their sodomy law was struck down a couple years back.
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if it can be done here, it can be done
> anywhere! well, maybe not texas. they still have anti-sodomy laws there.
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i had this happen to me - once - it actually is a
funny story.
dylan - the man, the god - dylan played the tiny mca
in orono, me in april 96. i had soooooooo much going
on that month - but dylan was like, well amazing -
waited outside for tickets - it was a cold maine
winter night and i got a few front row tickets and
maybe a 7 or 8th row - i also knew the student body
president - who was and still is - the biggest hippie
i know - and every thing that goes along with hippie
dom - anyway - the day or so before the concert - an
anonymous guy shows up at my dorm room - i had extra -
but they were for friends and i was hedging on going
the second show - my thesis orals were the next day,
so the guy was like one hundred bucks -- fine - sold -
i have a thesis to study for and damn if i am going to
miss out on honors after a year of demanding work.
the first night was phenominal - i skipped aimee mann
both nights - the second night i was studying in my
dorm - beat poetry on my reading list - and a dylan
poem was in the book. it was a sign from god - now it
is 10 min before dylan goes on stage - there is no way
i am going to finmd a miracle - the ticket office even
knew i had my orals and sold my ticket -
the head of the office runs out - "mike - i got one
for you" the front row didnt matter cuz they opened up
the pit and i was able to stand for the show (i cant
do that now, it would kill my back, but it was nice
while it lasted) she sold me a ticket - i was exactly
where i was the night before and...
i aced my orals - my written thesis could have been
better - it was a tough assignment because my topic
was something where i couldnt look at a previous
report to format suitably - but it was praised as
ambitious - and dylan was just soo on both those
nights.
so for a hundred bucks - yeah - i would fold. but not
next week - that show is gonna be amazing (it better
be - i am taking a day off work, bus fare, etc to get
to it...)
anyone driving from maine? flora? bueller? maybe take
amtrak down or something?
there - my one scalping story.
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first, the nigc - i hate to rain on the alabaman parade, but it looks like
there's still some pretty reactionary crap going down there. if you can stomach
it, read about state cheif justice roy moore, who calls homosexuality "an
inherent evil":
<http://www.abanet.org/journal/ereport/f22gay.html>
on a lighter note... i wouldn't normally post a dream, igc or otherwise, but
this one was just too funny. after a bunch of wack-ass dreamlike preamble, i
was at the philly show waiting for the concert to start, and suddenly amy and
emily took the stage and started singing five hundred miles by the proclaimers,
and got the whole audience singing response on the "ya-da-da-da"s. amy even had
the accent going, but emily couldn't quite manage it. and you know what, it
sounded pretty good....
mandy

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abbett@aol.com writes<<well not texas they still have anti-sodomy laws
there>>
in minnesota we have them too....i think.
but not as bad as down south.
hate crimes suck!!
peace
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hi,
the indigo girls will be live on nashville's lightening 100 at 9pm on sunday
night. you can listen live through the internet.
here is the link:
<a href="<http://www.wrlt.com/indexa.html>">http://www.wrlt.com/indexa.html</a> <http://www.wrlt.com/indexa.html%3c/a%3e>
if someone could possibly record this for and make copies, i'd be grateful.
see some of you in nashville on sunday!
:-) karen
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"my regrets become distractions" - amy ray
"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory" - emily saliers
become you, the new album by the indigo girls
in stores 12 march 2002
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hi,

the indigo girls will be live on nashville's lightening 100 at 9pm on sunday night. you can listen live through the internet.

here is the link:

<http://www.wrlt.com/indexa.html>

if someone could possibly record this for and make copies, i'd be grateful.

see some of you in nashville on sunday!

:-) karen

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hey everyone,
we are happy to announce that kristin was the 18th caller and won tix to the
meet & greet after the paradise show....yahoooo!!! we are off to ny on monday
to go the bowery and then to boston on friday,and now the meet & greet as
well.what more can two gals ask for....good luck everyone else!!!
peace & love,
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national gay and lesbian task force
press release
contact:
betsy gressler, director of public affairs
202-332-6483 ext 3306
800-757-6476 (pager)
bgressler@ngltf.org
<http://www.ngltf.org/>
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ngltf renews call for removal of alabama official:
"proven he is unfit to serve, he should be removed"
chief justice cited "confinement" and "execution"
in opinion removing children from lesbian mother
feb. 22, 2002 - in the face of growing national outrage, lorri l. jean,
executive director of the national gay and lesbian task force, today
repeated calls for the removal of chief justice roy moore of the
alabama
supreme court. moore wrote a hate-filled and homophobic opinion to
supplement the court's 9-0 decision on february 15 awarding
custody of
three teens to their father rather than their lesbian mother.
at a press conference and rally today in montgomery, jean stated
(complete text follows this release):
"i am here on behalf of millions of gay, lesbian, bisexual and
transgender people and our families and friends all over the nation
who
are appalled that the alabama supreme court purports to be a fair
and
just tribunal... in an opinion that is stunning in its hatred and
ignorance, chief justice moore has branded an entire class of
people as
abhorrent, immoral, detestable, evil... he has even gone so far as to
write that the state should jail and execute homosexuals simply
because
of whom we love. in so doing, he has proven he is unfit to serve as a
judge, and he should be removed.
"today i call upon all elected officials of the state of alabama to take
a moral stand on behalf of fairness and against bigotry, against
hatred
and ignorance, against religious intolerance and extremism...i call
upon
you to restore the possibility of justice for all people in the alabama
courts by removing chief justice moore from his position."

since moore's remarks one week ago, a groundswell of national
support
from individuals, advocacy organizations, and newspapers have
called for
his removal from office. organizations who participated in the press
conference included the ngltf, the human rights campaign, equal
partners in faith, equality begins at home of central alabama,
alliance
for civility and tolerance, and the gay and lesbian alliance of
alabama.
in his opinion, chief justice moore called homosexuality "abhorrent,
immoral," and "detestable." in supporting the court's decision, he
stated, "if a person openly engages in such a practice, that fact alone
would render him or her an unfit parent." in what is undoubtedly the
most outrageous section of his statement, moore advocates extreme
measures citing that "protection of the family is a responsibility of
the state." he continues: "the state carries the power of the sword,
that is, the power to prohibit conduct with physical penalties, such as
confinement and even execution. it must use that power to prevent the
subversion of children toward this lifestyle, to not encourage a
criminal lifestyle."


full text of remarks, attributable to lorri l. jean:
"i have come to montgomery today to stand in solidarity
with our hundreds of members who live in alabama and with
all fair-minded alabamans - people who are hurt and
ashamed and angry at the blatant bigotry and unrepentant
ignorance that has spewed forth from the alabama supreme
court.
"i am here on behalf of millions of gay, lesbian, bisexual
and transgender people and our families and friends all
over the nation who are appalled that the alabama supreme
court purports to be a fair and just tribunal. there is
no justice in the alabama supreme court for gay people.
in an opinion that is stunning in its hatred and ignorance,
chief justice moore has branded an entire class of people
as abhorrent, immoral, detestable, evil. it's bad enough
that he has sought to impose his personal religious
beliefs upon all alabamans-in clear violation of our
constitutional mandate of separation of church and state.
but he has even gone so far as to write that the state
should jail and execute homosexuals simply because of whom
we love. in so doing, he has proven he is unfit to serve
as a judge, and he should be removed.
"on september 11 the entire nation saw what happens when
religious intolerance and extremism rule the day. moore's
opinion could have been written by the taliban. he has
proven that he is a religious fanatic who cannot separate
his personal beliefs from his judicial mandate to dispense
fair and impartial justice. there is no place for such
fanaticism in the courts of america.
"sadly, this is not the first time that the people of
this state or the people of montgomery have faced ignorance
and bigotry and oppression at the hands of the state.
the modern civil rights movement began right here 46 years
ago with rosa parks. in a speech four days later to the
first montgomery improvement association, the rev. martin
luther king, jr., concluded with some prophetic words.
he said, in part: "when the history books are written
in the future, somebody will have to say, 'there lived a ...
people who had the moral courage to stand up for their
rights. and thereby they injected a new meaning into
the veins of history and of civilization.'"

"indeed history has recognized those brave people. they
were the fair-minded people of montgomery. they were in
montgomery 46 years ago, and they are here today. joined
by all of us and by courageous and fair-minded people across
the state and throughout the nation. and just as freedom
and fairness prevailed then, so too shall we emerge victorious.
whether it takes two days, two years or 200 years, we will
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date: fri, 22 feb 2002 21:30:05 -0800
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i was just on ebay looking at ig stuff, and saw that
there is a pair of tickets for the minneapolis ig show
for face value. the listing doesn't include the words
tickets or minneapolis....so if you want these, search
for indigo girls first avenue, and they should show
up. good luck....if i were closer to minnesota, i'd
grab these myslef.
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karen,
if i can get the station to work when they're on tonight (i tend
to have buffering trouble at night...!!!) i'll record it. i
still have to get that kbco studio c thing off my tape recorder.
i promise to do it today. :o) i'll let y'all know if i record
it. anyone else able to?
jess :o)

date: fri, 22 feb 2002 23:51:13 est
from: "karen r." <indigokare@aol.com>
subject: ig on nashville radio (listen online)

hi,
the indigo girls will be live on nashville's lightening 100 at
9pm on sunday
night. you can listen live through the internet.
here is the link:
<a
href="<http://www.wrlt.com/indexa.html>">http://www.wrlt.com/indexa.html</a> <http://www.wrlt.com/indexa.html%3c/a%3e>
if someone could possibly record this for and make copies, i'd
be grateful.
see some of you in nashville on sunday!
:-) karen


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subject: re: nigc: alabama hate crimes law :)
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on fri, 22 feb 2002, ryan blackhawke wrote:
> actually, i think their sodomy law was struck down a couple years back.
yeah, but if they're as ass-backwards as montana (and i tend to think they
might be), the law is probably still on the books. our sodomy law was
pronounced unconstitutional by the mt supreme court a few years ago, yet
it remains on the books...hmm...granted, no one can now be arrested and
prosecuted for what they do in their bedrooms, but still...it's subtle
discrimination that still remains.
we don't have sexual orientation in our hate crimes laws either. alabama
gives me hope.
amy m.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"so, we must love, while these moments are still called today..."
-emily saliers
the new indigo girls album, "become you," is in stores mar. 12, 2002.
for more info check out indigo girls web site at: www.indigogirls.com <http://www.indigogirls.com/>
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subject: ig in big d
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hey y'all,
i'm just too blinkin' tired today to write a review of last night's show here
in dallas, but suffice it to say it was amaaaazzzinnnnng! such a treat to
see the girls in a tiny venue, standing right up against the stage amy-side,
with wonderful sound and happy performers!
here is the set list:
least complicated
gone again (broken mandolin string by amy)
collecting you
become you
power of two
yield (i love this tune :-)
hope alone
land of canaan (amy said: this used to be a slow song!)
get out the map
starkville
galileo
chickenman (set list [thank you sulli!] said reunion)
our deliverance (set list said she's saving me; emily's intro: this is song
for peace)
moment of forgiveness
here's my question: amy played a verse of something and all i can remember
is something about a white boat coming and delivering the mail? maybe it was
that .... anywho - does that white boat lyric ring a bell with anybody? amy
said: y'all sing a long, but none us knew what the heck she was singing!
i can't do a fashion report except to say that amy was wearing these fabulous
brown boot cloggy things with red star on them. just wonderful!
lots of harmonica from amy. she said she's still trying to get the hang of
it, but when she comes back this summer she'll "be a bad-ass!"
oooooh, just a wonderful, fun, inspiring, exhausting,
"one-for-the-record-books" kind of show.
peace out,
pam in big d
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hey y'all,

i'm just too blinkin' tired today to write a review of last night's show here in dallas, but suffice it to say it was amaaaazzzinnnnng! such a treat to see the girls in a tiny venue, standing right up against the stage amy-side, with wonderful sound and happy performers!

here is the set list:

least complicated
gone again (broken mandolin string by amy)
collecting you
become you
power of two
yield (i love this tune :-)
hope alone
land of canaan (amy said: this used to be a slow song!)
get out the map
starkville
galileo
chickenman (set list [thank you sulli!] said reunion)
our deliverance (set list said she's saving me; emily's intro: this is song for peace)
moment of forgiveness

here's my question: amy played a verse of something and all i can remember is something about a white boat coming and delivering the mail? maybe it was that .... anywho - does that white boat lyric ring a bell with anybody? amy said: y'all sing a long, but none us knew what the heck she was singing!

i can't do a fashion report except to say that amy was wearing these fabulous brown boot cloggy things with red star on them. just wonderful!

lots of harmonica from amy. she said she's still trying to get the hang of it, but when she comes back this summer she'll "be a bad-ass!"

oooooh, just a wonderful, fun, inspiring, exhausting, "one-for-the-record-books" kind of show.

peace out,

pam in big d
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hey y'all,
i know i should know this, but where can i buy ig merch like t's and hats
on-line? just couldn't find the stuff on the official site, but may be
entirely too stuped today!
peace,
pam
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hey y'all,

i know i should know this, but where can i buy ig merch like t's and hats on-line? just couldn't find the stuff on the official site, but may be entirely too stuped today!

peace,

pam
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subject: re: alabama (nigc)---just an interesting tidbit a/b bama
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i know this is off topic, and i know that i shouldn't, but i just had to add
that i live in florence, al, and just less than 2 years ago we finally voted
to ammend our constitution to not view interracial marriages as illegal. the
interracial marriages had still been happening, but were still unlawful under
the alabama consitution. the sad thing is ---it did not pass with flying
colors, that is for sure.
but i will say, on a more positive note, that i like living here in florence,
i have a blast, and i know there are a ton of progressive people here who
will do whatever it takes to reshape alabama. it's not so bad to live in a
place that challenges people everyday to rethink their moral rights and
wrongs, and there are a lot of people here who will fight fight fight for
their beliefs, no matter what those beliefs are, and that is really cool too.
there isn't the opportunity to become complacent around here. we just need
to get rid of judge roy moore, the almighty conservative who is even making
other conservatives less conservative b/c many of them see him as looking so
self-righteous, they are even sickened by it.
sorry for the off topic post. i know i should post this to some alabama
newsgroup ;-)
april
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i know this is off topic, and i know that i shouldn't, but i just had to add that i live in florence, al, and just less than 2 years ago we finally voted to ammend our constitution to not view interracial marriages as illegal. the interracial marriages had still been happening, but were still unlawful under the alabama consitution. the sad thing is ---it did not pass with flying colors, that is for sure.

but i will say, on a more positive note, that i like living here in florence, i have a blast, and i know there are a ton of progressive people here who will do whatever it takes to reshape alabama. it's not so bad to live in a place that challenges people everyday to rethink their moral rights and wrongs, and there are a lot of people here who will fight fight fight for their beliefs, no matter what those beliefs are, and that is really cool too. there isn't the opportunity to become complacent around here. we just need to get rid of judge roy moore, the almighty conservative who is even making other conservatives less conservative b/c many of them see him as looking so self-righteous, they are even sickened by it.

sorry for the off topic post. i know i should post this to some alabama newsgroup ;-)
april
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> here's my question: amy played a verse of something and all i can remember
> is something about a white boat coming and delivering the mail? maybe it was
> that .... anywho - does that white boat lyric ring a bell with anybody? amy
> said: y'all sing a long, but none us knew what the heck she was singing!
>
powderfinger!!!!
this is a neil young song. they played it at the fillmore but it wasn't
included on the video. there are several boots out there with the song
though.
g.
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hey y'all,
i'm just too blinkin' tired today to write a review of last night's show
here in dallas, but suffice it to say it was amaaaazzzinnnnng! such a
treat to see the girls in a tiny venue, standing right up against the
stage amy-side, with wonderful sound and happy performers!
here is the set list:
least complicated
gone again (broken mandolin string by amy)

[jim garvey]
is dublin the only place in the world that amy has managed to get
through this song without breaking a string, just curious !!
jim
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from: indigo girls = mailing list [mailto:indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org] on behalf of mnoelm@aol.com
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subject: ig in big = d
hey y'all,

i'm just too blinkin' tired today to write a review of last night's show = here in dallas, but suffice it to say it was amaaaazzzinnnnng! such a = treat to see the girls in a tiny venue, standing right up against the stage = amy-side, with wonderful sound and happy performers!

here is the set list:

least complicated
gone again (broken mandolin string by amy) =
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hey folks,
here's the article from the boston globe that torrie mentioned...
it's online at
<http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/053/living/indigo_girls_get_fresh_on_back_>
to_basics_cd+.shtml
cheers,
sherlyn
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indigo girls get fresh on back-to-basics cd
by steve morse, globe staff, 2/22/2002
the indigo girls have come full circle. the popular georgia-based duo
began as an acoustic act, then grew ever more complicated through the
years with dense layers of electronic studio production that baffled
some of their fans. the good news is that the indigos have at last
made another rootsy, acoustic-rock disc, which appears to be the
style they do best.
''it has a purity to it, doesn't it?'' indigo girl emily saliers says
of the new cd, ''become you,'' which comes out march 5 and will be the
backbone of the group's show at the paradise next friday.
the prime force behind the return to acoustic purity, saliers says,
was bandmate amy ray.
''amy has been wanting to make an acoustic record for a while,''
saliers says. ''but i was on a roll with wanting to play electric
guitar and expanding our production. i really love some of what we
did, like the last album, 'come on now social,' but i knew amy really
wanted to get back to the roots.''
the new cd is a rejuvenating effort that spotlights the indigos'
trademark vocal harmonies, made even crisper because there are no
distracting studio techniques to cover them up. the album features the
group's core backup band, rather than the many guest musicians who
have participated in recent years.
the indigo girls have been recording for 15 years, but they've never
sounded fresher than they do on the new cd. ray sings most of the rock
tracks and saliers most of the ballads (with each contributing stunning
harmonies). several songs explore the nuances of love affairs,
including ''hope alone'' (''we were just an empty dream - too big for
hope alone to fill''), ''she's saving me,'' the mandolin-driven
''yield,'' and the new single, ''moment of forgiveness.''
elements of rock, country music, and otis redding-like r&b pop up.
there's also a touching, post-sept. 11 song of peace, ''our
deliverance.'' the song highlights the social conscience of the
indigos, who have long been active in environmental and native american
issues.
the message of ''our deliverance'' is heard in the line ''lay down your
weapon, and love your neighbor as thyself.''
''i couldn't say it any more poetically,'' saliers says. ''i had to say
it straight out. people always reference god when they're fighting wars,
that god is on their side and all that stuff. but according to
everything i've read, life is all about not warring with your neighbor,
and no nation is exempt from that rule. i just wanted to remind myself
and others about that.''
this story ran on page d14 of the boston globe on 2/22/2002.
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pam wrote:
>i know i should know this, but where can i buy ig merch like t's and hats
>on-line?
they used to sell that stuff at indigogirlsdirect.com, but it looks like now
they are only selling cds and videos. you could try ebay, but you'll
probably end up spending more than you would at a show.
anna
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pack rats and vandalized nightly." --roger ebert
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i just happened to see this magazine at borders. it has some insightful comments from amy about lilith fair, the state of the recording industry, and why radio doesn't play indigo girls anymore.
april
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punk planet #47
feb. 2002
amy ray leads two lives. the first is as one half of the indigo girls, the folk pop duo she formed with musical partner emily saliers in the mid-'80s when they both played the atlanta coffeehouse circuit. from there, they went on to release eight albums on epic records, score radio hits, win a grammy, tour relentlessly and play arenas as lilith fair headliners.
the key to the indigo girls' popularity is the juxtaposition of their two personalities. saliers' gentler singing style and knack for ballads directly compliments ray: she's a punk rocker at heart and her raw vocals and fierce guitar playing gives her band its much-needed kick.
that sensibility fuels ray's second life as the proprietor of daemon records, the independent label in operation for about 11years -- almost as long as she's been an indigo girl. based in decatur, georgia, daemon's mission has long been to nurture women songwriters and female-fronted bands with styles and attitudes that are not easily categorized by mainstream label marketing departments. included on the roster are the southern pop band rock*a*teens, acoustic songwriter rose polenzani, and the all-girl surf rock combo the moto-litas.
a recent addition to the list is ray herself. earlier this year, daemon released her first solo album, stag, a collection of straightforward garage punk that paired her with the southern lesbian punks the butchies as well as the rock*a*teens, josephine wiggs of the breeders, kate schellenbach of luscious jackson and veteran rocker joan jett. to the unsuspecting indigo girls fan, it's a bolder and, in some sense, raunchier side of ray. one song features a chorus taunting rolling stone publisher jann wenner for his role in media sexism (lucystoners") and other songs stare down gender complexity, teenage violence and self-hate.
uniting ray's life as an indie label chief and a major label artist is activism. the indigo girls consistently are on the road campaigning for a litany of worthy causes including the environment, the prevention of nuclear waste dumping on native american lands, saving the yellowstone buffalo, advocating low-power, non-commercial fm radio and countless other political and cultural grassroots goals. this summer, ray -- backed by the butchies -- headlined ladyfest midwest in chicago, the four-day women-oriented music and arts festival. she is a shining example of how mainstream success can indeed support a radical spirit.
interview by mark guarino
when you decided to release your first solo record, why not put it out on epic that perhaps would have promoted it and gotten you airplay?
part of the reason i wanted to do this record was to be on an independent label and to support my own label. and i felt like i've gotten a lot out of being on a major label but i wouldn't say there's a great incentive for me to be on one right now. i think it's sort of obsolete, actually. because they're just not in state of artist development or any sort of loyalty -- although i didn't expect that either, i knew i was making a deal with the devil [laughs]. i feel like i've had a label for 11 years and if i didn't put my own record out on it, how much faith am i showing for my own label, you know?
why did it take so long?
i just think i'm just late in my development. because i think it took me a long time where i felt comfortable stepping away as the person running the label, number one. and it's not the reason i started it. i started it to work with other artists, people i consider to be great mentors of mine as far as songwriters. but then i got to a point where my songs got to be in a place where i wanted to do them by myself, so i felt ready. i felt more confident to go into the studio and really be in charge of a project without having emily there. i had worked with her for so long at that point, it was really easy to fall back on her musically. also i needed a break from the big studio, the big this, the big that and emily was all for it. she was "yeah, i think it'll be good for you."
your indigo girls records seem to, more and more, be split down the middle between your and her songs. so was it just the fact it made more sense to get all your songs to fill one record for once?
i think we've always split it up that way but i think that, as we get older, we definitely are polarized a little bit more in some ways. and so yeah, i think i was in a mode of not really thinking in terms of a lot of harmony. what indigo girls really does best is harmony and that kind of interplay and i didn't want to necessarily pull us in another direction that i don't think is our forte. the next record we're getting ready to work on is all rootsy and completely harmony-based and so for me, it was good because i got the other stuff out of my system. i feel really loyal to the purist approach to this record.
when you toured with stag, did you discover you now had two audiences: one that knew you as an indigo girl and the other as the leader of this punk rock band?
yeah, i think so! i think a lot of it had to do with being on road with the butchies for a while. their audience is slightly younger and edgier in some ways and more women. it made me really look at the indigo girls audience because our audience is really diverse as far as age and everything. i appreciate that. but i definitely have found a slightly different audience with the butchies. it's the same people who come to an indigo girls show early to hear the opening band when we have a punk band open for us [laughs]. they want to hear indie stuff and i recognize a lot of the people. and then there's indigo girls fans that didn't know if they'd like it and then ended up really liking it and there's butchies fans who definitely didn't know who i was. it's been good.
what's been the advantage of having this record on an indie and why is now a better time to do that than before?
we've gone through a lot of the process of trying to figure out where the label is as far as what our function is. and i think we've we got to this place where our vision is community based. we're trying to build coalitions among other labels; we're trying to build this infrastructure; and we're also very political. we got to a point where it's really working and coming together. i never felt like major labels were the best thing in world. i felt like we got lucky and we got into a situation that's better than most and got a lot out of it. i might not do it the same way again, but i'm one person in a partnership. but i just think right now, there's all this space created at the bottom by all the mergers at the top and people are really disgusted. [laughs] i think everybody's kind of going "wait a minute, we do have to strengthen this infrastructure." it's not like i haven't said that all along, but it's like there's a point where you feel like other people are starting to understand it too and it makes you excited. i i guess i feel like there's more energy down here than there has been. in the last few years, i felt like this energy has been growing and people understand it better and artists are coming back and participating. kathleen hanna comes back with le tigre and i see that as a really conscious effort to participate in a bigger way than what she had been doing with julie ruin. the butchies made me feel that way. there's something about that when that starts happening with people that i look up to, that i think "ok, this is exciting. maybe there's more revolutionary stuff happening." and all the protests against globalism, all this stuff starting to happen. college kids and high school kids are really savvy and i think more politically involved than my age group was.
i've always thought that with the number of major labels diminishing to single digits, that will only mean a renaissance of independent labels. that's one positive result.
exactly, yeah.
and if you think about when the indigo girls started in the late '80s, a folk-based band could get on the radio. it made sense to be on a major because the climate was so different.
i think at that time, it would have made sense to be on a major label for any group, probably. but i think you're right-for us we were putting out independent records and getting college radio play and booking our own tours and everything seemed great except that we were really overextended and busy and our following was getting bigger. and i felt tired at one point and thought, oh man, i need some help." i don't think i was smart enough at the time to put my politics and my career together in a way that was politicized. i think i was like, "well, they're giving us creative freedom and they're signing pearl jam." it was a label that had signed pearl jam, oasis, rage against the machine, and indigo girls all within a three-year period. i don't know, i felt like they were developing artists -- they honestly were. and then it all started falling apart. when they started firing certain people who you think are integral to the integrity of a label, it's kind of like you felt they're losing their edge. and that's what happened to them, honestly.
you played lilith fair but also ladyfest, a festival that's arguably the independent equivalent. from being on both stages, what was the difference?
lilith fair was this very mainstream experience. it was very, very corporate but at the same time it was a great thing. there was probably more diversity than it was given credit for having. i think there was lot of effort put into that, but it's hard to do when it's so corporate because there's a lot of groups that aren't going to participate. ladyfest and the michigan women's [sic] festival are things that are more radical, they are a lot more holistic because they include this idea if you want autonomy and if you want a strong presence of women in the industry, you have to teach people how to run sound and how to fix their guitars, and you have to network about booking. it's everything. it's a workshop. lilith was a lot of music and then, things for sale. [laughs]
did lilith change your perception about a woman's place in the music industry for better or for worse? afterwards, did you feel exposed to wider audience or did you end up feeling more marginalized as simply a "female artist?"
for us, it was a shot in the arm for our career. we were definitely exposed to an audience that was much more mainstream than our normal audience. because we were on stage with people that had radio hits. i think (lilith organizer] sarah mclachlan's perspective when she was planning this was no one will play women together. promoters won't put two women bills together; we're having a lot of trouble with radio play. but actually, it really coincided with a huge spike in women and radio play. if you look at the timing, i'm not sure lilith created the trend, i think it built upon it. for us, it really helped. but definitely, we suffered a backlash for it. a lot of women have been completely marginalized at this point and taken out of the radio format that was once very kind to women. even if you're a rock band and a women [sic] playing rock music, they won't play you. so, in that way, i don't regret that it all happened but you have to figure out as a woman, how do you take what was going on and make it work afterward? me and emily, of course, we came before and we'll be after it. we just do our thing and sometimes it's really working in a mainstream way and sometimes it's not. we definitely saw a backlash against us at radio.
why do you think that happened?
part of it has to do with the 1996 federal telecommunications act and it finally caught up to everybody. the mergers created such an advertising-driven radio station sort of vibe that everything was marketing and demographics. when you are at the mercy of marketing, you're at the mercy of them deciding what the trends are. and they get sick of any trend. and they'll get sick of white boys playing alternative music and it'll be a bummer for them. they ruin everything. they play to death every song, they put all the groups that sound alike into one pool. so at one point they said, "well i'm sick of hearing that lilith fair stuff." well what was "that lilith fair stuff" exactly? does that mean you don't want to hear anymore paula cole or you don't want to hear sheryl crow -- they're two different artists. it's like me saying, "i don't want to hear anymore white boys playing alternative music." and somebody else would be like, "does that mean you don't like green day or the offspring -- they're two different bands, you know [laughs]. i just think advertising-driven radio marginalizes anybody and it also commodifies everyone. and it's sexist in a way, probably because white men are in charge of advertising and so women are always going to be left out more than a man is, in that situation. but men are still going to be commodified, too.
it also affects the images we're seeing of women from the major labels: mostly hot-bodied jailbait.
yeah. it's a woman who's more submissive. i think radio is like, "we don't want to hear a woman if she's being aggressive and dominant. we want to hear a woman that's buying into what she's supposed to be doing." women playing rock in a truly aggressive and revolutionary way, that's not going to be get on the radio. [laughs] if it does, it's probably somebody that is so comprised in a business way where they're willing to do every single promotion that comes up. it's humiliating at this point what they ask you to do. we can't stomach it. we don't get on radio because at some point we say, "we're not going to play the stupid christmas show with 500 bands that aren't anything like us where the audience basically hates us and we're not going to play the picnic with the chicken baskets." and when we started saying no, it was kind of like, all of the sudden, no more radio play for indigo girls. it's not based on music. even if they love you, it's like they love to other people who are willing to do anything. some of these bands, i can't believe what they'll do.
and for women, that especially means sexing up to an almost cartoonish dimension.
yeah, unfortunately. i think if you want to do that, it's okay. i feel really strongly about a woman doing what she wants to do. madonna's huge because of her image and the way she works the media and that's her own right. but at some point you think, god they're not going to play the overweight husker du-looking woman band, it ain't gonna happen. [laughs] or the woman in the wheelchair. i mean there's not a woman john popper.
will the indigo girls ever become a daemon band?
the indigo girls will never be on daemon because it's too weighted on my side. but we might do something indie. we don't really know what we want to do after we finish this deal. but i know that daemon is something i understand better. i'd like the label to grow, but i'm not interested in having a bunch of bands sell 100,000 records. i want to have bands that need an opportunity and need a label to sell 5,000 copies and that's okay. that's what i want to be.
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don't think she broke one in london or manc either...must be our damp air
:-)
peace,
eileen

>from: jim garvey <sjgarvey@eircom.net>
>reply-to: jim garvey <sjgarvey@eircom.net>
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>date: sat, 23 feb 2002 22:48:23 -0000
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>
>
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>on behalf of mnoelm@aol.com
>sent: 23 february 2002 19:59
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>subject: ig in big d
>
>hey y'all,
>
>i'm just too blinkin' tired today to write a review of last night's show
>here in dallas, but suffice it to say it was amaaaazzzinnnnng! such a
>treat to see the girls in a tiny venue, standing right up against the
>stage amy-side, with wonderful sound and happy performers!
>
>here is the set list:
>
>least complicated
>gone again (broken mandolin string by amy)
>
>
>[jim garvey]
>is dublin the only place in the world that amy has managed to get
>through this song without breaking a string, just curious !!
>
>jim

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hmmm - i can't remember where, but i'm pretty sure she just swapped
mandolins straight over in gone again : i think it was london....
john.
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> don't think she broke one in london or manc either...must be our damp air
> :-)
> peace,
> eileen
>
>
> >from: jim garvey <sjgarvey@eircom.net>
> >reply-to: jim garvey <sjgarvey@eircom.net>
> >to: indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org
> >subject: re: ig in big d
> >date: sat, 23 feb 2002 22:48:23 -0000
> >
> >
> >
> >-----original message-----
> >from: indigo girls mailing list [<mailto:indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org>]
> >on behalf of mnoelm@aol.com
> >sent: 23 february 2002 19:59
> >to: indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org
> >subject: ig in big d
> >
> >hey y'all,
> >
> >i'm just too blinkin' tired today to write a review of last night's show
> >here in dallas, but suffice it to say it was amaaaazzzinnnnng! such a
> >treat to see the girls in a tiny venue, standing right up against the
> >stage amy-side, with wonderful sound and happy performers!
> >
> >here is the set list:
> >
> >least complicated
> >gone again (broken mandolin string by amy)
> >
> >
> >[jim garvey]
> >is dublin the only place in the world that amy has managed to get
> >through this song without breaking a string, just curious !!
> >
> >jim
>
>
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she did - but don't know whether it was a broken string?

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>to: indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org
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>date: sun, 24 feb 2002 10:25:56 -0000
>
>hmmm - i can't remember where, but i'm pretty sure she just swapped
>mandolins straight over in gone again : i think it was london....
>
>john.
>
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>from: "eileen standen" <eileen_standen@hotmail.com>
>to: <indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org>
>sent: sunday, february 24, 2002 10:13 am
>subject: re: ig in big d
>
>
> > don't think she broke one in london or manc either...must be our damp
>air
> > :-)
> > peace,
> > eileen
> >
> >
> > >from: jim garvey <sjgarvey@eircom.net>
> > >reply-to: jim garvey <sjgarvey@eircom.net>
> > >to: indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org
> > >subject: re: ig in big d
> > >date: sat, 23 feb 2002 22:48:23 -0000
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----original message-----
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> > >on behalf of mnoelm@aol.com
> > >sent: 23 february 2002 19:59
> > >to: indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org
> > >subject: ig in big d
> > >
> > >hey y'all,
> > >
> > >i'm just too blinkin' tired today to write a review of last night's
>show
> > >here in dallas, but suffice it to say it was amaaaazzzinnnnng! such a
> > >treat to see the girls in a tiny venue, standing right up against the
> > >stage amy-side, with wonderful sound and happy performers!
> > >
> > >here is the set list:
> > >
> > >least complicated
> > >gone again (broken mandolin string by amy)
> > >
> > >
> > >[jim garvey]
> > >is dublin the only place in the world that amy has managed to get
> > >through this song without breaking a string, just curious !!
> > >
> > >jim
> >
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i agree with the poster the other day. it is not all bad living in a
southern state like alabama being gay. speaking for myself, i have a very
easy time of it. i sort of feel like the south may become the hotbed of the
gay rights movement like it was for the civil rights movement. if you live
here, you can help change happen! where's the fulfillment of living
somewhere where you are already so easily accepted? it may make things a bit
easier, but it's awesome to think that when we stand up to challenges, things
can happen. if all the good southerners leave the south for "easier" cities
such as san fran and nyc then who's gonna stay here and take the necessary
stands we need to make some real progress? for my g/f and i, it's very
exciting! i did have some info incorrect the other day - sexual orientation
being added to the hate crimes law hasn't passed all the way thru yet. i
thought it had - but it's just passed thru the senate judiciary committee.
maybe it will pass the senate and maybe it won't. but we can have
satisfaction when it finally does. we went to a rally in montgomery last
week in remembrance of billy jack gaither who was a gay alabamian killed here
in alabama; it also was in opposition to judge roy moore, as well as about
adding sexual orientation to our hate crimes law. anyway, for those of us
who live in the south and for those who don't live in the south who feel we
are so backwards - we really aren't as compared to the rest of the country.
yes, there are some cities who have domestic partnership laws, etc. but let
us in all the states who have backward laws stand up for ourselves in our
states and not let our states win by running us out! :) let us take up the
good fight for equality. the south may just be the most exciting place to
live in regards to change.
amanda
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> ..it's a neil young song called powderfinger
> did she sing it in the middle of another song or just by itself?
>
hey everybody,
thanks to evrybody who responded to my question about what i now know is the
verse from neil young's powderfinger that amy did here in dallas friday
night. (nice review in the local paper this morning btw, although more of a
"plot summary" than an actual review!)
amy started in to the powderfinger verse before she played moment of
forgiveness. looking back, i think she was almost teasing the audience when
she said "everybody sing-along," probably knowing that very few of us
actually had any idea what the heck she was singing! she and emily stood
face-to-face and jammed on it for a couple of minutes before she sang the
verse, then amy said, "we're still working that out, but here's a song in the
same key," or something to that effect, and launched in to mof. pretty cool
moment :-)
pam
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..it's a neil young song called powderfinger
did she sing it in the middle of another song or just by itself?


hey everybody,

thanks to evrybody who responded to my question about what i now know is the verse from neil young's powderfinger that amy did here in dallas friday night. (nice review in the local paper this morning btw, although more of a "plot summary" than an actual review!)

amy started in to the powderfinger verse before she played moment of forgiveness. looking back, i think she was almost teasing the audience when she said "everybody sing-along," probably knowing that very few of us actually had any idea what the heck she was singing! she and emily stood face-to-face and jammed on it for a couple of minutes before she sang the verse, then amy said, "we're still working that out, but here's a song in the same key," or something to that effect, and launched in to mof. pretty cool moment :-)

pam
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at the radio station in austin, a&e talked about going back to the uk,
probably before the summer us tour.
fwiw, this was news to sulli.
lauren
(who's back at home tonight after two weeks of indigo bliss in colorado,
northern california, and austin.)
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at the radio station in austin, a&e talked about going back to the uk, probably before the summer us tour.

fwiw, this was news to sulli.

lauren
(who's back at home tonight after two weeks of indigo bliss in colorado, northern california, and austin.)
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hey kind friends
i have tickets to the drew concert, but i don't know where it is. can anyone
help me out? i live near philly. i don't need exact directions, just
looking for a rough estimate of time or what it might be near.
thanks!!
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nashville setlist
february 24, 2002
3rd and lindsley
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shame on you
power of two
yield
collecting you
kid fears
get out the map
become you
(amy says someone backstage asked, "you're not going to screw up that song
by trying to play harmonica again, are you?")
hope alone
ozilline
closer to fine
starkville
(emily asks if we'd mind hearing another ballad. "we were in memphis last
night, playing this next song, and people were eating dessert. i was
pissed." amy: "after this one, you can eat whatever you want. dessert.
peanut buster parfaits. we might even have some reese's pieces on the bus
if anyone wanted some.")
she's saving me
chickenman / bitterroot
galileo
encore:
moment of forgiveness
(amy made some comments about "nationalistic fervor," and the "dangers of
calling a whole country an axis of evil, when all kinds of people live
there." "we all have responsibility for what happens." "this song is for
faith through the darkness.")
our deliverance
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more tomorrow about the show. amy and emily were great all around :)
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at 00:07 02/25/2002 est, kirsten <ssejarez@aol.com> wrote:
>i have tickets to the drew concert, but i don't know where it is.
>can anyone help me out? i live near philly.
drew u's web site nay help: <<http://www.drew.edu/>>
especially <<http://www.drew.edu/about/location.html>>
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hey folks,
this is forwarded from the news-only list...
-sherlyn

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great show. best i've ever seen of them. fun to see them up so close.
i got great photos
<http://www.bonedoc1.net/snipe/index.php?cat_id=57&action=images>
or just <http://www.bonedoc1.net/> and follow the links until you find the ig
(please don't use the photos without permission, thanks)
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one thing i might say to the fact that living in san fran ....as amanda said
was an easier city to be in as being gay... but you know...the surrounding
cities..such as the one i live in 20 minutes away from the city, it is not
overall accepted, and in fact i do a lot of volunteering in my community to
help educate about homophobia through glsen, but i would agree that it might
be cool to be a part of helping the struggle for acceptance...but i will
disclaim that just because there are more opportunities in the city for the
queer community, it is not easy!
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one thing i might say to the fact that living in san fran ....as amanda said was an easier city to be in as being gay... but you know...the surrounding cities..such as the one i live in 20 minutes away from the city, it is not overall accepted, and in fact i do a lot of volunteering in my community to help educate about homophobia through glsen, but i would agree that it might be cool to be a part of helping the struggle for acceptance...but i will disclaim that just because there are more opportunities in the city for the queer community, it is not easy!
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yes, you can get a copy of both the manchester and glasgow boots (january=
31,2002 and february 1, 2002) just by sending 4 blank cdrs to one of the=
volunteers listed below,
the recordings were made by claudine lapsky who is a dedicated fan and ex=
perienced booter of shows. she has generously lent these boots for all t=
o enjoy.
liners are available for the discs. i'm currently looking for a person w=
ho will kindly let me stowe the liners somewhere on the web so everyone c=
an have access to them via their own printers. even if you don't have a =
color printer, these liners are great.
the manchester show has such great old songs such as watershed, johnny ro=
ttentail, reunion, and of course chickenman.
new songs include moment of forgiveness, collecting you, starkville, yiel=
d, philosophy of loss.
the glasgow boot has deconstruction, she's saving me, faye tucker, our de=
liverance to name a few. the audio is excellent on both boots.
ok, so i have talked you into it =3d)
to get your copies, first contact one of the volunteers for the address a=
nd if you want to arrange a trade, feel free to do so. then you can skip=
the rest of these instructions.
get your blanks together and if they are still shrink wrapped, take off t=
hat cellophane. =20
put them in a padded envelope. you really don't have to send cases. cds=
are pretty indestructible; a padded envelope would do. put an address l=
abel in there with your return address on it.
have it weighed at the post office and ask them how much it would cost to=
return the envelope to you. put that amount in stamps in the inside of =
the envelope. just don't put a metered stamp on your return envelope if =
you choose to include one. they are dated and you never know when this p=
ackage will be returned. =20
seal it and mail it. wait. anticipate. :)
ok, here are the volunteers. only marian is a full-time college student =
with precious time to devote to this task. the others are either (1) rec=
overing from the flu or (2) recovering from jet lag due to road-tripping.=
so be kind and don't expect instant gratification =3d)
pick someone from your birth month:
january - february - mrowan@gmu.edu (marian)
march - april - indieshell@msn.com (michelle)
may - june - neversaythat@starstream.net (joy)
july - august - memememi@aol.com (lisa)
september - october - tomboy1969@excite.com (dee)
november - december - hunterj_one@msn.com (jude)
i check in with you later.
enjoy.
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the recordings= were made by claudine lapsky who is a dedicated fan and experienced boot= er of shows. she has generously lent these boots for all to enjoy.<= /div>
liners are available for the discs. i'= m currently looking for a person who will kindly let me stowe the liners = somewhere on the web so everyone can have access to them via their own pr= inters. even if you don't have a color printer, these liners are gr= eat.
the manchester show has such great old = songs such as watershed, johnny rottentail, reunion, and of course chicke= nman.
new songs include moment of forgiveness, collecting you,= starkville, yield, philosophy of loss.
the = glasgow boot has deconstruction, she's saving me, faye tucker, our d= eliverance to name a few. the audio is excellent on both boots.</di= v
ok, so i have talked you into it =3d)<di= v
to get your copies, first contact one of the vol= unteers for the address and if you want to arrange a trade, feel free to = do so. then you can skip the rest of these instructions.<div=
get your blanks together and if they are still&nb= sp;shrink wrapped, take off that cellophane.
</di= v
put them in a padded envelope. you really don't have to sen= d cases. cds are pretty indestructible; a padded envelope would do.= put an address label in there with your return address on it.</div=
have it weighed at the post office and ask them = how much it would cost to return the envelope to you. put that amou= nt in stamps in the inside of the envelope. just don't put a metere= d stamp on your return envelope if you choose to include one. they = are dated and you never know when this package will be returned. </= div
seal it and mail it. wait. antici= pate. :)
ok, here are the volunteers. = only marian is a full-time college student with precious time to devote t= o this task. the others are either (1) recovering from the flu or (= 2) recovering from jet lag due to road-tripping. so be kind and don= 't expect instant gratification =3d)
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<di= vjanuary - february - mrowan@gmu= .edu <3d> (marian)
march - april &= nbsp; - indieshel= l@msn.com <3d> (michelle)
may - june &nb= sp; - neversaythat@starstream.net <3d> (joy)
jul= y - august - <a= href='3d"mailto:memememi@aol.com"'memememi@aol.com (lisa)
= september - october - tomboy1969= @excite.com <3d> (dee)
november - december - hunterj_one@msn.com <3d> (jude)
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enjoy.</d= iv
jude :)
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hey...
shamelessly stolen (and adapted) from the aimee mann list:
there's a live acoustic performance of "gone again" on city folk live iii, a
cd released by a bronx public radio station called wfuv. in order to get
it, you need to make a $100 donation, but their membership provides so many
discounts and benefits that if you live in the nyc area and are subscribed
to a list such as this one it will most likely pay for itself.
here's the tracklist for city folk live iii. all the recordings are
live in-studio performances.
1. slaid cleaves - broke down
2. janis ian - boots like emmylou's
3. the jayhawks - somewhere in ohio
4. shelby lynne - where i'm from
5. david gray - babylon
6. michael penn - high time
7. indigo girls - gone again
8. continental drifters - drifters
9. buddy & julie miller - all my tears
10. snakefarm - rising sun
11. kelly joe phelps - house carpenter
12. richard shindell - shades of gray
13. marah - point breeze
14. willy porter - mystery
15. suzzy roche - g-chord song
16. tom rush - child's song
17. mighty mo rodgers - blues is my wailing wall
18. phil roy - melt
19. terry callier - where a lark is singing
wfuv broadcasts in nyc on 90.7 fm and on the web at <http://wfuv.org/>.

neil
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heard over the weekend as i was checking out in the capitol hill
safeway on kentucky and d se. i don't know if it was officially
muzac or not, but it might have well been. no lyrics, overly sappy,
removal of any baseline whatsoever (not that pt had a huge baseline
to start).
i didn't know whether to be proud or cry.
chris
p.s. has anyone else heard this in other safeway stores around the
country? just wondering if this is national or local...
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<<p.s. has anyone else heard this in other safeway stores around the
country? just wondering if this is national or local...>>
i haven't heard it in a safeway, but i did here a musak version in a local
(los angeles)restaurant the other day. i've also heard musak andy in a
pollo loco......i understand your mixed feelings about that chris.....its
elation at hearing an ig song and horror all at the same time. :-s
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<<i've also heard musak andy in apollo loco......>>
that's just the cons version, right?
:)
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re: andy
<<that's just the cons version, right?>>
unfortunately not...totally musaked out instrumental. very heartbreaking
when i think about it.
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not true, just go <http://www.sodomylaws.org/> and you will see a map of the
states that have them.
:)
mi rinda
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abbett@aol.com writes<<well not texas they still have anti-sodomy laws
there>>
in minnesota we have them too....i think.
but not as bad as down south.
hate crimes suck!!
peace
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<< moment of forgiveness
(amy made some comments about "nationalistic fervor," and the "dangers of
calling a whole country an axis of evil, when all kinds of people live
there." "we all have responsibility for what happens." "this song is for
faith through the darkness.") >>
yes, this kind of thinking makes us no better than the people who
attacked the united states on sept. 11, just because we're americans. we're
all part of the same world!
i watched a program last week on ralph ellison, who was said to have made
a comment at a gathering on racism that all the white people have to realize
there's some black blood in us somewhere in the past, and that all black
people have to realize that there is some white blood in us somewhere in the
past, and until people realize that, nothing will change.
deb
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hi everyone,
sorry to be asking again but just in case someone has had a change in plans
and now has an extra ticket...i'd be so very grateful! please email me if
you might have 1 extra boston ticket.
thank you!!!!
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<<unfortunately not...totally musaked out instrumental. very heartbreaking
when i think about it.>>
yup. i've heard that same version of andy in a wendy's around here...made me
happy and sad all at once.
though we do have a chili's that has closer to fine on one of their cds--we
call it the lesbian mix, b/c it has melissa etheridge, ig, mary chapin
carpenter, and a few other female artists with lots of gay fans.
~megan
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interesting website. i got my information from one of the gay magazines recently - girlfriends, the advocate - something like that - it was a month or so ago. it didn't have alabama listed as a state with laws against sodomy. either the mag or the website is wrong don't know which. thanks for the website, tho.
amanda
>not true, just go <http://www.sodomylaws.org/> and you >will >see a map of the states that have them.
>>abbett@aol.com writes: well not texas they still have >>anti-sodomy laws there
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<<though we do have a chili's that has closer to fine on one of
their cds--we call it the lesbian mix, b/c it has melissa
etheridge, ig, mary chapin carpenter, and a few other female
artists with lots of gay fans.>>
oh! i heard closer to fine in...i think it was kfc once. and
once heard galileo in stop&shop, when i nearly peed my pants in
delight. my mom didn't see what the big deal was... ::rolls
eyes:: my mom claims to have heard "that map song" in the bank
once, but i doubt it. :o)
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if anyone is having a hard time getting tickets to a show...come to
ohio! i just spoke to the box office and not even 600 tickets have been
sold. that means you can still get tickets only 20 rows back in the main
section. a little closer if you want side seats. plus there is also loge
and balcony seating.
youngstown is only 60 to 90 minutes from cleveland and pittsburgh and
even closer to akron and kent. i cannot believe this show is selling so
slow. where are the fans in ohio and pennsylvannia?
bettyann
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as if i need any more ig t-shirts...
how is the merchandise at the preview shows? should i bring lotsa
cash when i see them tomorrow in nyc?
thanks
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at 12:41 pm 2/25/2002 -0500, jeremy james wrote:
>as if i need any more ig t-shirts...
>
>how is the merchandise at the preview shows? should i bring lotsa
>cash when i see them tomorrow in nyc?
last night at the nashville show they had a t-shirt for 18 bucks that had a
small color picture on the front and a short list of feb. and march tour
dates on the back. they were also selling small stickers for 50 cents each.


tracey
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fun stuff for a monday:
kink fm (portland, or) put clips of the ig's feb. 14 appearance in the
performance lounge up on their site:
<http://kink.fm/qt/indigo/indigo.html>
enjoy!
-bon
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i thought the shirts at our show (boulder) were really lame. they were
$22, with a tiny square pic on the front and looked like someone made them
at home with a printer and iron-on kit. some people were buying them, so
i know not everyone shared my opinion.
g.
on mon, 25 feb 2002, jeremy james wrote:
> as if i need any more ig t-shirts...
>
> how is the merchandise at the preview shows? should i bring lotsa
> cash when i see them tomorrow in nyc?
>
> thanks
> jer
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a correction: emily made these comments, not amy.
sorry.
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>encore:
>moment of forgiveness
>(amy made some comments about "nationalistic fervor," and the "dangers of
>calling a whole country an axis of evil, when all kinds of people live
>there." "we all have responsibility for what happens." "this song is for
>faith through the darkness.")
>our deliverance
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hey folks,
this was sent to the news-only list but is more appropriate for here instead...
please direct any replies to the original sender at ericfl@usa.net, not to me,
thanks.
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subject: huge ig fan - ny tomorrow

hey all,
i'm in need of your help desperately. i'm a huge ig fan and without a ticket
for the ny show tomorrow night which is sold out. i have seen the girls 10
times before, and following them since 93. this will be my first missed show
since they have came to the ny area. i am looking for one or two tickets. if
i can only get one, then i will go by myself. maybe i could meet up with a
few of you at the show? if so let me know please. if i don't hear from
anyone i will be outside early trying to find a scalped ticket.
"i laughed as i said it this is my situation"
thanks y'all,
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ok, so my 2 minnesota tickets are still available. $42 for the pair plus
s/h. e-mail me if interested. i'd rather send them to you than worry about
meeting up at the show...
:-) karen

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ok, so my 2 minnesota tickets are still available. $42 for the pair plus s/h. e-mail me if interested. i'd rather send them to you than worry about meeting up at the show...

:-) karen


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--- garian <vigil@ucsu.colorado.edu> wrote:
> i thought the shirts at our show (boulder) were really lame. they were
> $22, with a tiny square pic on the front and looked like someone made them
> at home with a printer and iron-on kit. some people were buying them, so
> i know not everyone shared my opinion.
dude, i hear that. not that i've even seen these particular shirts, but the
scenario sounds familiar. i always find myself conflicted when perusing the
merch at ig shows, because i always want to buy a shirt in theory, but i
usually dislike all the choices.
this content-free post was brought to you by mandy's grumpy monday feelings.
mandy
p.s. anybody coming to the philly show: if you see somebody in line with a big
sign that says "save the world", that's me.... come on over and sign a public
comment postcard in support of the roadless areas protection plan. :)
p.p.s. the one exception, in recent years, to the igc crisis of clothing
conscience were those spiffo summer 2000 tour shirts with the orange creamsicle
on them. of course, idiot me decided to put off buying one until i saw ig again
a month later, at which point they were long gone... there isn't anybody on
this fine list with a creamsicle shirt they feel like unloading, is there?
anybody? bueller? *sigh*

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if anyone is having a hard time getting tickets to a show...come to
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youngstown is only 60 to 90 minutes from cleveland and pittsburgh and
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last night's show was the best ig i've seen in nashville. amy and emily
were relaxed and joking -- even going so far as to acknowledge the fact
that a _lot_ of people had enough of the new cd that they were singing
along -- "that's cool."
the highlight: chickenman segueing into bitterroot, then back again. the
studio cut of chickenman isn't one of my favorites -- but live it's a
stunning display of their guitar work. last night the song moved into
bitterroot seamlessly... and surprisingly. when a concert shows a new side
of old favorites, _that's_ something special.
emily's voice was pure and strong -- soaring at several points, especially
galileo. though often overshadowed by amy's sheer energy, seeing emily in
concert shows her astonishing ability to convey emotion -- i always end up
at some point near tears (kinda weird, but there it is) because she's hit
it exactly right. last night it was during galileo, and again, even more,
at she's saving me.

now, for a rant.
most of the attendees were great -- got a chance to talk to several, and,
as always, it was a safe space for all kinds of people.
however, nashville crowds in general are getting more rude. maybe it's
happening everywhere, but i've been going to fewer and fewer events because
it's getting too disheartening dealing with the self-absorbed "fans" who
seem oblivious to the fact that a concert is a communal experience.
it started with the line waiting to get in. doors opened at 5; we showed up
a little after 3. we didn't expect to be the first in line, and weren't,
but there were only about fifty people in front of us, out of a total of
200. but by the time the doors opened, there were between 65 and 70 in
front of us. a smallish group in front of us kept growing as people walked
by "just to talk," then ended up staying in line. i finally fussed at them,
but they were clueless as to why anyone would get upset -- one of them even
tried to defend her actions by saying, "they saved a place for me in the
ticket line, so i'm doing the same for them." i replied, "that was wrong,
too. you're screwing over people you don't even know."
i'm pretty sure they never got it.
after we got seated -- farther back than we would have been if places
hadn't been saved in line -- several from that group ended up near the
front. when a/e came out on stage, the first thing this group did was
_stand up on their chairs._ they're in the freakin' first row, with almost
150 people behind them who now can't see a thing, and _they're standing up
on their chairs!_
and another group was off to the side talking loud enough so they could
hear each other over the music. drinking and laughing, having a great time
-- some even with their backs to the stage.
several others who didn't have tickets and only got in at the last minute
thought it was a good idea to rush the stage. the venue was a large
restaurant with the stage at one end -- definitely a sit-down, listening
kind of space. but those who got in at the last minute, without planning
ahead or waiting in _two_ lines -- one for tickets, another to get in --
decided they were worthy of a better view than anyone else, even to the
point of blocking the view of those of us who'd worked for these seats.
is it like this everywhere? are we spoiled in nashville because there's
_too much_ music, so it's not a special occasion anymore?
are indigo fans becoming less considerate? maybe i'm naive, but i tend to
expect the ig crowds to be a little better than average because the music
is about being aware that there _are_ other people in the world, and about
making the world a kinder place through our own actions.
short review. long rant. i'd love to go to a show where i could leave with
only good feelings. the show was great, and i'm glad i went, but it's tough
dealing with the fact that i spent a good part of the time listening to the
loudspeakers, unable to see what was happening onstage because of the
obliviousness/self-centeredness of some of the crowd. and to know that i
wasn't the only one who felt that way.
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at 05:39 pm 2/25/2002 -0600, nblomgren wrote:
>and another group was off to the side talking loud enough so they could
>hear each other over the music. drinking and laughing, having a great time
>-- some even with their backs to the stage.
i will just add here to my honey's eloquent and comprehensive post that
many of the chickies involved in this little sewing circle -
1) were among those who kept cutting in line, and
2) asked a cop to do crowd control around the restroom because the line to
the restroom was blocking their view of the stage.
clearly, these were very special people. i hope they're on this list.


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subject: my mn tix on ebay
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it was just easier to list them there. if you want them, go to:
<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=1335613171>
they're priced at face value (the first bid is face value and the buy it now
price is the same. use buy it now!)
:-) karen
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it was just easier to list them there. if you want them, go to:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=1335613171

they're priced at face value (the first bid is face value and the buy it now price is the same. use buy it now!)

:-) karen

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i bought a tee at an indigo girls show and to this day i do not know what=
spell i was under when i made the transaction. the shirt is black and =
the figures involve a deer (time was way before stag) and a woman who is=
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ah, yes, the infamous "buck naked" shirt. i've got one of those, too.
i never know quite what to do with it.
besides, black shirt = cat hair magnet. though strategically placed cat
hair might keep you out of jail.
hmm. i think i need to go home now.
-bon

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> i bought a tee at an indigo girls show and to this day i do not know what spell i was under when i made the transaction. the shirt is black and the figures involve a deer (time was way before stag) and a woman who is conveniently airbrushed enough to save me from jail time. i have never worn it; it is a size large; doesn't have anything to do with indigo girls that i can recall; but if any one wants it, i'll mail it to them ;)
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could someone please pick me up about 4-6 of these stickers. i will reimburse
you, plus send you a couple of boots for your trouble?
gram
quoting tracey <tracey@mccartney.net>:
> last night at the nashville show they had a t-shirt for 18 bucks that
> had a
> small color picture on the front and a short list of feb. and march
> tour
> dates on the back. they were also selling small stickers for 50 cents
> each.
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hi,
the 2/27 show in philadelphia is my sisters first indigo girls concert. i
bought the ticket for her birthday. since i live in california, i can not
be there and am hoping that some kind person(s) on the list who is going
can take her under thier wing and help make this first indigo experience a
good one for her. in appreciation i will happily send boots and excellent
photos of the girls.
email for details and i will send you a photo of her to identify.
thanks,
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i have totally heard the peace tonight in muzac...definitely at the dentist
office...and i am proud to say that my work has played it from dmx...at my
restuarant..several times it has come on...each time i have failed to ask
which dmx station..but it was very exciting!
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i have totally heard the peace tonight in muzac...definitely at the dentist office...and i am proud to say that my work has played it from dmx...at my restuarant..several times it has come on...each time i have failed to ask which dmx station..but it was very exciting!
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date: tue, 26 feb 2002 10:36:17 -0500
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the people at the front of the line had been there since 1:30 am and had switched many times throughout the day...getting there at 3 might have been a little late if you wanted to be up front...<br /> <br />
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and those people standing at the front (and the front of the balcony) were standing at amy & emily"s request...the shows are more fun for them that way than when people just sit and watch...<br /> <br />
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> and those people standing at the front (and the front of the balcony)
> were standing at amy & emily"s request...the shows are more fun for them
> that way than when people just sit and watch...
i really don't want to sound snotty, but did a&e tell you that standing
people are "more fun" for them? somehow, i bet that their preferences run
the gamut, depending on the show, the locale, their moods, what they had
for dinner. hell, amy may like standers, and emily might like sitters.
i wasn't there, and it's hard to be someone who wants to sit at a standee
show and it's hard to be a stander at a mellow, sittee show, but i resent
the insinuation that a) one must do what the artist thinks is more fun
(or, what a fan thinks the artist thinks is more fun) and b) people aren't
allowed to buck the norm a little.
so, some people stood. others wanted to sit. such is america. but the
previous lister had stated that people were standing _on chairs_ which
makes it rather hard for anyone to see over them unless they too stand on
chairs, which is dangerous (especially if one wants to bop) and often
prohibited at venues.
nora
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at 10:36 am 2/26/02 -0500, you wrote:
>the people at the front of the line had been there since 1:30 am and had
>switched many times throughout the day...getting there at 3 might have
>been a little late if you wanted to be up front...
which isn't at all what i wrote. i wasn't crabbing about where we were in
line when we got there. fifty back was just fine -- we didn't go there at
3:00 expecting to be up front.
there was a group in front of us that grew because people were _arriving_
long after we, and a lot of other people, had gotten there.

>and those people standing at the front (and the front of the balcony) were
>standing at amy & emily"s request...the shows are more fun for them that
>way than when people just sit and watch...
funny how the overwhelming number of people at the show didn't hear this
request -- was it whispered just to the special little group up front?
i truly doubt that amy and emily encouraged people to block the view of the
overwhelming majority of people who were there -- which might be why was
security after them to sit down.
anyone who stood up, especially _on their chairs_, blocked the view of
everyone else. the stage wasn't elevated, the floor was packed with tables
and chairs. this wasn't a setting for rushing the stage and dancing in the
aisles.
take a look at the bbs at the ig site to see how many people were unhappy
with this behavior.
if you don't understand why cutting into line and blocking the view of
other fans would tick people off, then there's no reason to continue this.
and i haven't even gotten into the late-arriving suvs blocking in the cars
of those who'd gotten there early, or parking directly in the lot's
entrance so we had to drive over the curb to get out. heaven forbid someone
might have to park on the street and walk a block or so.
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<p><br>elaine bean<br>northeastern university<br>faculty senate office<br>4=
42 ry<br>boston, ma 02115<br>(617) 373-3353<br><e.bean@neu.edu><br></=
p><p> <br><font size=3d2><b>nora landon <bruise@lucien.blight.com&g=
t;</b></font><br><font size=3d2>sent by: indigo girls mailing list <indi=
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m cst</font><br><font size=3d2>please respond to nora landon</font><br><br>=
<font size=3d2>to:</font> <font size=3d2>indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org</=
font><br> <font size=3d2>cc:</font> <br> <font size=3d2>bcc:</font> <br> <f=
ont size=3d2>subject:</font> <font size=3d2>re: nashville: a few comments a=
bout the show... and a long rant</font><br> <br><br></p><p><font face=3d"mo=
nospace,courier">> and those people standing at the front (and the front=
of the balcony)<br>> were standing at amy & emily"s request...=
the shows are more fun for them<br>> that way than when people just sit =
and watch...but the<br>>previous lister had stated that people were stan=
ding =5fon chairs=5f which<br>>makes it rather hard for anyone to see ov=
er them unless they too stand on<br>>chairs, which is dangerous (especia=
lly if one wants to bop) and often<br>>prohibited at venues.</font></p><=
p> </p><p><font face=3d"monospace,courier">i'd be curious to know if t=
he people who were standing in front of the balcony (or wherever it is they=
were standing), at amy and emily's request, were the same ones who were st=
anding on chairs and blocking the views of others?  if so, then appare=
ntly it is ok to be rude and block other peoples views and hide your rudene=
ss under the excuse of "amy & emily told us to do it"  h=
ow lame is that. . . if not, then i apologize for suggesting that those peo=
ple are "rude."</font></p><p><font face=3d"monospace,courier">ela=
ine</font></p><p> </p><p><br></p>=
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my favorite fellow fan was the one who, after being told not to stand on
her chair, then waved her cowboy that so that she could still effectively
block the view of those behind her even from the floor. i think she was
under the mistaken impression we'd all waited in line to see *her.*

tracey
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date: tue, 26 feb 2002 11:56:28 est
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did someone post awhile back that amy and emily were going to be on the view
this friday? i just went to the sight and they are not listed.
thanks
michelle
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woah! i wasn't on the side of the venue that had people standing on their
chairs. wow. i didn't notice that. oh well, i think i was just too busy
enjoying the music.
i agree with the people who were angry about the late arrivers. we were
about the fifth group back in line. by the time the doors opened, we were
further back than that. i am thinking of one person who completely budged
just about everyone (maybe not dee's group :) ). it was rude.
i was one of the lucky people who had tickets. however, i met a few people
in the non-ticketholder line. according to one woman, there were problems
there too of people budging to get in. i guess it happens. . .
anyway, on a positive note, kid fears was great. and amy and emily were so
gracious to the fans by the bus. they both signed something for me, and i
had my picture taken with amy. :) danielle's set was great as well, but she
did not have enough time. it was too bad that there were technical
difficulties, and that she did not get all of the time allotted to her.
one more semi-rant. i could not believe the people in back during "she's
saving me." especially after emily said how "pissed off" she was in memphis.

all in all, i am glad that i went. it was worth the drive. and i got to
meet some awesome people in line. shed, it was great to finally meet you.
you too, ashley (and congrats!!!)! and joey too. and it was great to see
traci again. i am just sad that i did not run into dee. oh well. maybe in
atlanta. :)
:-) karen
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woah! i wasn't on the side of the venue that had people standing on their chairs. wow. i didn't notice that. oh well, i think i was just too busy enjoying the music.

i agree with the people who were angry about the late arrivers. we were about the fifth group back in line. by the time the doors opened, we were further back than that. i am thinking of one person who completely budged just about everyone (maybe not dee's group :) ). it was rude.

i was one of the lucky people who had tickets. however, i met a few people in the non-ticketholder line. according to one woman, there were problems there too of people budging to get in. i guess it happens. . .

anyway, on a positive note, kid fears was great. and amy and emily were so gracious to the fans by the bus. they both signed something for me, and i had my picture taken with amy. :) danielle's set was great as well, but she did not have enough time. it was too bad that there were technical difficulties, and that she did not get all of the time allotted to her.

one more semi-rant. i could not believe the people in back during "she's saving me." especially after emily said how "pissed off" she was in memphis.

all in all, i am glad that i went. it was worth the drive. and i got to meet some awesome people in line. shed, it was great to finally meet you. you too, ashley (and congrats!!!)! and joey too. and it was great to see traci again. i am just sad that i did not run into dee. oh well. maybe in atlanta. :)

:-) karen

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y'all might have seen people with laminates on running around... <br />
<br />
<br />
these folks mentioned that the memphis show wasn't much fun for the girls because the crowd wasn't into it and specifically asked those folks in the front to get up and enjoy the show so that the girls would have fun too... <br />
<br />
so yes, i do know that our standing crowd was a better room for the girls to play to than a bunch folks just sitting in their seats... <br />
<br />
d:) <br />
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sorry if this posts 2x, my email is being stubborn.
hey all,
well, i haven't read all of my email yet, since there was alot of it, but
just for the record, the people sitting directly in front of the stage were
standing, but definitely not on chairs, the security guards even warned us
not to lean on tables, so i can't see how we would have gotten away with
standing on chairs. so maybe we are discussing two different crowds of
people here.
i have to admit, there were alot more people crammed into that little
section in front of the stage than i would have prefered and as for the
large table to the right, i do not quite understand how they got there, as i
don't remember seeing them in line, nor did they know much of the music
aside from the songs like galileo, power of two and other "popular" type
songs. the new songs they pretty much rudely talked through. i couldn't
believe how rude they were being. if you don't want to listen to an artist
the please do not sit right in front of them. i think that makes sense.
i am glad i went because i was with the most kind and giving people that i
know, but i have to say i prefer shows with assigned seating. although i
did want to stand, i would prefer to have that choice and be able to see if
i do want to sit.
just my take on the whole thing.
traci
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hey,
just learned that one, maybe two, of my comprades for tomorrow's show has the
flu and probably won't make it. so kids, anyone up for a ticket or two? i
won't know for sure until tomorrow, so i'm just checking interest levels now.
e-mai me privately.
peace,
terri
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hey,

just learned that one, maybe two, of my comprades for tomorrow's show has the flu and probably won't make it. so kids, anyone up for a ticket or two? i won't know for sure until tomorrow, so i'm just checking interest levels now.
e-mai me privately.

peace,

terri
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date: tue, 26 feb 2002 19:04:32 -0600
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i just saw this on the bruce springsteen mailing list. please reply to
the poster and not me.
diane

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looks like i have 2 tickets for the indigo girls in philly on wed night
2-27-02
8pm
the show is at the tla on south streeet and is sold out
its a solo acoustic show promoting their new album do out in march
i was going to take a lovely lady who loves them - but she cant go now
so i've lost my interest as well
i'm in south jersey and can meet tonight or any time tomorrow to
exchance the
tix - face only - i think they are $30each may be alittle less
let me know
kris
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subject: birthdays...(february 25th - march 3rd, 2002)
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please forgive me :)
happy birthday to the following listees!!!!!
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february 27
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> is it like this everywhere? are we spoiled in nashville because there's
> _too much_ music, so it's not a special occasion anymore?
>
> are indigo fans becoming less considerate? maybe i'm naive, but i tend to
> expect the ig crowds to be a little better than average because the music
> is about being aware that there _are_ other people in the world, and
about
> making the world a kinder place through our own actions.
>
just wanted to respond and throw my 2 cents in. i wish i could have gone to
the nashville show this year but one thing certainly kept me from going and
that was my experience at a show last year to see amy ray and the butchies
in nashville. i can't remember the venue but i thought at least their would
be tables and chairs to sit at. lots of people showed up so they removed the
tables and chairs. and as i recall, folks would show up see friends in line
and merge with them thinking nothing of *breaking in line*. okay so i had to
stand up the whole time like everyone else. no big deal but folks were
drinking and being loud and talked loudly the entire set. i want to have fun
just like anyone else but are concerts now becoming a place primarily to
socialize instead of listen and enjoy the music? i prefer places you can sit
down and see and hear the performers. if a fun songs comes up, you stand up
and sing along. during really slow songs, most folks respectfully sit and
listen. i guess if folks in smaller venues what to chat, holler, get in the
way of ppl hearing and seeing the performers, then i will stay away and wait
for the big venue concert :)
your post reminded me of the my small venue experience and i understood your
reaction.
p
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hi,
has anyone this cd already and can give me a little more info about it ?
i would love to hear your opinions...
thanks,
robert
ps: and i would be also very interested in a trade for a copy...
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how could you have missed dee, she was standing next to me the whole time?


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okay, first day back at work and online after a great nashville show....
and yes, once again, i was the one (me and another friend) who dee was
talking about in her earlier email. we were at the venue at 1:30am to be the
first in line for our small group after driving three hours in the middle of
the night from atlanta. when we got there the club was still cleaning up
from saturday nights activities. we set up camp and then slept in the car
until daylight while other groups started arriving in the dark as well. so,
i resent anyone calling into question our right (or any of the groups that
were there before daylight) to be on the front row or at a front table. yes,
we did leave around noon or one to go take a shower...it is called having
friends and taking shifts (dee, you are the best housemate in the world!).
if you want to worry about where you are sitting then perhaps you should get
there a little earlier. and always tell the folks directly behind you how
many people are in your group (hey ashley!).
as i was standing in line for the bathroom, i overheard some woman bitching
about how she was there early to get tickets and to get in line and how all
these folks whom she had never even seen before were sitting closer than
her....i sooo wanted to say, "well, i was here at 1:30am, the first person
in line to get tickets and again, at 1:30am and the first person in line to
get in the door, and i have never seen you!". i think people really just
needed to get over their grousing and enjoy the show because it was really
quite a treat.
as for standing on chairs....whoever insisted that the front row was
standing on chairs.....well i guess you couldn't see the front row, because
the four or five of us were certainly not standing on chairs--nor would we
have had any need to--we would have been taller than amy and emily. but i
do agree that standing on chairs to block the view of others was quite rude.
btw, standing is a way of showing the artist respect. and you have to admit
that standing raised the bar of excitment quite a few notches....and after
memphis, goddess knows they needed it.
and to the folks who insisted on talking during she's saving me, even after
emily talked about the unpleasantness from the night before....shame on you.
you missed out.
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at 07:58 am 2/27/02, shedyourskin 23 wrote:
>okay, first day back at work and online after a great nashville show....
>
>and yes, once again, i was the one (me and another friend) who dee was
>talking about in her earlier email. we were at the venue at 1:30am to be the
>first in line for our small group after driving three hours in the middle of
>the night from atlanta. when we got there the club was still cleaning up
>from saturday nights activities. we set up camp and then slept in the car
>until daylight while other groups started arriving in the dark as well. so,
>i resent anyone calling into question our right (or any of the groups that
>were there before daylight) to be on the front row or at a front table.
i don't recall anyone posting about those at the very front of the line.
my original post was about a group who was just in front of us, who hadn't
arrived until much later than 1:30am. we arrived at 3:30pm, one member of
this group had been there since 2:30pm, the bulk of this group arrived
_after_ we did. judging from their greetings, the late arrivals clearly
hadn't been there earlier.

> yes,
>we did leave around noon or one to go take a shower...it is called having
>friends and taking shifts (dee, you are the best housemate in the world!).
>if you want to worry about where you are sitting then perhaps you should get
>there a little earlier.
again, my original post _specifically_ stated that were were fine with
where we were in line, considering we arrived only an hour and a half
before the doors opened.
the problem was with those who clearly were arriving later than we did, in
some cases _much_ later, then taking a place ahead of us and everyone else
who'd been waiting for a long time.

>and always tell the folks directly behind you how
>many people are in your group (hey ashley!).
>
>as i was standing in line for the bathroom, i overheard some woman bitching
>about how she was there early to get tickets and to get in line and how all
>these folks whom she had never even seen before were sitting closer than
>her....i sooo wanted to say, "well, i was here at 1:30am, the first person
>in line to get tickets and again, at 1:30am and the first person in line to
>get in the door, and i have never seen you!". i think people really just
>needed to get over their grousing and enjoy the show because it was really
>quite a treat.
>
>as for standing on chairs....whoever insisted that the front row was
>standing on chairs.....well i guess you couldn't see the front row, because
>the four or five of us were certainly not standing on chairs--nor would we
>have had any need to--we would have been taller than amy and emily. but i
>do agree that standing on chairs to block the view of others was quite rude.
we chose to sit farther back, on one of the elevated areas to the right
next to the wall.
to the right of the stage there was a group that was standing on chairs,
waving hats and beer bottles. if they were one row back, it's all the same
when to those of us sitting farther back, as the overwhelming number of
ticketholders were. and it's still uncalled for.
>btw, standing is a way of showing the artist respect. and you have to admit
>that standing raised the bar of excitment quite a few notches....and after
>memphis, goddess knows they needed it.
>and to the folks who insisted on talking during she's saving me, even after
>emily talked about the unpleasantness from the night before....shame on you.
>you missed out.
agreed :)
to restate: no one here has said there was a problem with those who arrived
very early and earned their spot at the front of the line and in the front
rows.
the problem was with those who wandered in late, screwed over those who
_did_ take time to wait in line, then screwed them over again by a) rushing
the stage and displacing those who had earned front row seats, b) blocking
the view by standing on chairs when they were next to the stage, and c)
talking through the performance.
i posted it partly to get it out of my system -- and found out i wasn't the
only one who felt this way, which helped in getting over it (thanks!) --
and partly in hope that the offending parties might recognize themselves
and start behaving a little better when they're sharing an experience with
a roomful of other people.
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hey i lost your e-mail address... <br />
<br />
e-mail me privately about the variety show in atlanta <br />
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d:) <br />
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ashley, email me privately please. thanks, shed
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okay, so in the talk about the nashville show i have heard mentioned several
times about how emily was unpleased with the memphis show the night before.
can someone shed some insight about that? i don't recall reading anything
about it. what particularly happened to make her upset?
thanks!
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i have the cd and it is just wonderful. it is a live recording in that
everything on it is recorded one time with no dubbing of extra voice tracks
or music tracks. all 4 women have three songs each on there. it is live
accoustic with hand percussion and vocal collaborations. each woman has a
distinctive style, with erin mckeowen leaning towars the jazz end of the
spectrum. it is definitely worth having. i have also had the pleasure of
seeing this collaboration perform live and they are amazing to watch.
vov is jess klein, beth amsell, erin mckeowen and rose polenzani
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hi,
has anyone this cd already and can give me a little more info about it ?
i would love to hear your opinions...
thanks,
robert
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since everyone seems to be talking about the nasville show, i thought this quote was in order. it is from a story that ran in the los angeles times yesterday and it is about mary martin, a woman country music executive who is up for a grammy this year. i guess talking in nasville clubs in common:

"i had just started as an intern here when mary stopped me in the hall and introduced herself by telling me about the time she couldn't hear the music in a club because this woman behind her was talking so loud," vause recalls. "mary said she asked the woman to be quiet, but it didn't help. so mary turned around again and said, 'would you please just shut up.' when she realized the woman wasn't going to stop talking, mary just turned around and decked her."
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subject: mn tickets gone
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hi,
all of my extra mn ig tickets are gone. thanks for your interest.
:-) karen
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"my regrets become distractions" - amy ray
"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory" - emily saliers
become you, the new album by the indigo girls
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hi,

all of my extra mn ig tickets are gone. thanks for your interest.

:-) karen

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<<did someone post awhile back that amy and emily were going to
be on the view this friday? i just went to the sight and they
are not listed.>>
i heard that too! i don't know what to think - but i'm going to
tape it anyways, just to be sure. ya think it would be on the
site - though it says "subject to change" on the site...?
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great show from the girls last night- high energy, great setlist, soaring harmonies, you know- your typical ig concert. =
:-)
compared to the comments about the audiences at other shows, this group was fantastic. first of all, we got there at 5:3=
0, and there were eight people in line in front of us. that's right. eight. not 50, not 20. eight. fabulous. we wer=
e right in the front row.
a lot of us knew the new songs and sang along with them where appropriate. the crowd talked through the actual playing o=
f the album over the pa, but i didn't expect people to just sit and listen. i thought it was fine to be talking through =
it. the important part was when the girls were playing the new songs live- and the crowd was respectful and appreciative=
of the new ones. everybody shouted out random requests all night, which made the girls laugh. the only inappropriate o=
ne happened when emily started the opening to "she's saving me" and some girl yelled out "power of twoooo!!" the best pa=
rt was that everybody in the first few rows went "shhhhhhhhh!" which gave emily a laugh. you can't really blame the girl=
- she probably had no idea what emily was about to sing and what it means to her to sing it- but it wound up being okay.
the girls were in good spirits. here's the set, hopefully complete but definitely a bit out of order:
gone again
amy was smiling up a storm on this one. emily looked like she was spacing out. i've noticed that amy keeps her eyes ope=
n a lot more these days while she's playing. she has really come into her own- i think stag was a very good thing for he=
r.
least complicated
sounded great to me. amy remarked afterwards that she spaced out for a bit and forgot the chords, and apologized to emil=
y. cute. :-)
deconstruction
fantastic. emily's voice literally soared through the crowd on those high notes.
virginia woolf
oh wow. that's all i can say. oh, and that right before "the hatches were battened," amy gave emily a goofy look, as if=
to ask "are you gonna sing this correctly tonight?" the few of us that knew why she was giving emily that look applaude=
d her when she sang it correctly. :-)
become you
amy nailed the harmonica part. nailed it. great song live.
yield
the most rockin' song on become you and definitely a great live one. amy broke a string (surprised?). sulli had an extr=
a ready for her but had run to the side right when the string broke, so she wasn't there to hand it to her. they wound u=
p starting over.
shame on you
lots of singing, especially on the chance for us to scream the word "fuck."
closer to fine
starkville
absolutely kicked ass but amy was unhappy with it afterwards. i think she tried to explain why she was unhappy afterward=
s but stopped herself from getting into it.
galileo
our deliverance
nice to see amy playing the lead line on this one, i think she was on bouzouki (who made this instrument and why couldn't=
they give it an easy spelling?). amy mentioned she was happy that as new yorkers we applauded for "lay down your weapon=
s..."
chickenbitterrootman (that's my new title for it)
blistering solos by emily as usual. amy had us sing the entire first verse and made very cute faces throughout, includin=
g lowering her face as if to imitate us struggling to hit the low notes. :-)
before this one, they had a little meeting about what to play next. it was so cute. amy held her guitar up to the audie=
nce and talked behind it so we couldn't see what she was takling about. finally they were about to play a different song=
, "requested by emily," said amy, "an old one," but quickly changed their mind and played chickenbitterrootman. anybody =
know what song they were going to play?
kid fears
good singalong from the audience as usual. :-)
she's saving me
see above notes about the beginning. a beautiful rendition.
moment of forgiveness
emily on gibson electric, the only electric of the night.
and that was the show. a great night. i caught a pick, missed a setlist. sulli is definitely the hero of the show, in =
my opinion. that girl works so hard. i got to speak with her before the show and i asked her if she had picked the setl=
ist for the show. she said she hadn't, but she mentioned the show a week or so ago where she had, and said the girls wor=
ked her twice as hard that night. :-)
it was nice to see diane and jackie, who were standing behind me and somehow figured out who i was from the way i liked t=
o just shoot my mouth off on brian clary's old website. :-) hi ladies! also nice to meet victoria who is not on this l=
ist but on the ig bbs.
a fun night! emily mentioned that they'll be back this summer, maybe at the beacon.
jason, one of the lone indigo guys :-)
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after reading a lot of the comments about recent shows, i've been
thinking alot about my own experiences at concerts.
i've been a fan for the past 10 years and have been going to concerts
for the last 5 or so years. in the beginning it seemed like people were
more relaxed, more laid back, and the concerts were always the
highlight of my year. suffragette sessions in chicago is still one of
my favorites; i got there 8 hours early, sat in line with everyone
else, and had a blast. and when the doors opened, the people who were
there all day were at the front of the stage (if they wanted to be).
the solo amy ray concerts in san francisco were probably my first "bad"
experience. people were pushing, shoving, showing up late and standing
in front of me with big cowboy hats on, etc. i encountered as many rude
people as i do riding the bus home.
it made me think, though. are we as a group getting less tolerant? are
we (myself included) expecting too much?
i remember the joy i used to feel when getting in the front row. i
didn't feel like i "deserved" it in any way... i just felt lucky.
one woman i spoke to in san francisco on the 15th was complaining
because she was outside the microphones. she was in the second row, but
not central enough for her. she was a foot too far to the right,
apparantly.
that seems to be a lot of the attitudes i'm running into lately... fans
that let the fun and joy of the concerts be obscured by their own
expectations.
i'm seeing this in myself, too. i don't know if it's in reponse to some
of the negative attitudes i've run into (groups of line-jumpers, people
who push, people who talk through the quiet songs), or simply stemming
from seeing so many shows, having such high expectations.
it makes me sad, though, because i wish i could get back to that joy
and not let all the other stuff bug me.
thoughts?
love,
amy
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hmmm - maybe it's because i don't live in the usa (and therefore don't get
to see the girls that much), but anytime i see them i'm happy just to be
there with a lot of other people who love the girls as well. i don't care
where i am (ok, the last two ig concerts i went to, i was near the front :
but i was lucky), i'm just happy that i'm with a group of people who love
the girls as much (or even more) than i do.
case in point : i went to see melissa etheridge a couple of weeks ago, and i
was about 15 rows from the front. virtually everybody in the stalls was
stood up, and it was great. just the feeling of singing along with hundreds
of other people and melissa hear us was sheer nirvana.
and that's my 0.5 cents (or pence, or whatever...)
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> after reading a lot of the comments about recent shows, i've been
> thinking alot about my own experiences at concerts.
>
> i've been a fan for the past 10 years and have been going to concerts
> for the last 5 or so years. in the beginning it seemed like people were
> more relaxed, more laid back, and the concerts were always the
> highlight of my year. suffragette sessions in chicago is still one of
> my favorites; i got there 8 hours early, sat in line with everyone
> else, and had a blast. and when the doors opened, the people who were
> there all day were at the front of the stage (if they wanted to be).
>
> the solo amy ray concerts in san francisco were probably my first "bad"
> experience. people were pushing, shoving, showing up late and standing
> in front of me with big cowboy hats on, etc. i encountered as many rude
> people as i do riding the bus home.
>
> it made me think, though. are we as a group getting less tolerant? are
> we (myself included) expecting too much?
>
> i remember the joy i used to feel when getting in the front row. i
> didn't feel like i "deserved" it in any way... i just felt lucky.
>
> one woman i spoke to in san francisco on the 15th was complaining
> because she was outside the microphones. she was in the second row, but
> not central enough for her. she was a foot too far to the right,
> apparantly.
>
> that seems to be a lot of the attitudes i'm running into lately... fans
> that let the fun and joy of the concerts be obscured by their own
> expectations.
>
> i'm seeing this in myself, too. i don't know if it's in reponse to some
> of the negative attitudes i've run into (groups of line-jumpers, people
> who push, people who talk through the quiet songs), or simply stemming
> from seeing so many shows, having such high expectations.
>
> it makes me sad, though, because i wish i could get back to that joy
> and not let all the other stuff bug me.
>
> thoughts?
>
> love,
> amy
>
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awesome show- were you those people in the front row with the cameras? i
was leaning on the balcony upstairs and would kill to see a picture of amy
from last nite.
your review summed it up- except that i found kid fears especially amazing.
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in a message dated 2/27/2002 12:19:07 pm central standard time,
amy_indigirl@yahoo.com writes:

> i've been a fan for the past 10 years and have been going to concerts
> for the last 5 or so years. in the beginning it seemed like people were
> more relaxed, more laid back, and the concerts were always the
> highlight of my year. suffragette sessions in chicago is still one of
> my favorites; i got there 8 hours early, sat in line with everyone
> else, and had a blast. and when the doors opened, the people who were
> there all day were at the front of the stage (if they wanted to be).
>
i remember that show. and i remember how awesome it was. i was one of those
early arrivers. no one cut. no one had the nerve to push the people who had
been waiting all day aside. that was one of the most awesome experiences of
my life.
i do agree with amy, though. i've been going to ig shows for the past 6 or 7
years now, and it seems like crowds have gotten ruder. my low point was
columbus, oh in 2000. people were cutting right and left. they had to call
the cops in to do crowd control. a group of girls formed their "own line" on
the opposite side of the doors. luckily, those of us who had really arrived
early got in first (with the help of those pre-show party tickets, but that
is a different story), and got right up to the stage. once inside, the crowd
was rude (ruder than nashville, i think). someone threw a bottle during
"river." amy and emily were so obviously tired and even a bit pissed.
i was not at the slim's solo tour (rats! i was in japan for that whole tour
and away from the west coast), but i have many friends in the bay area, and
have heard stories similar to amy's. however, on this past tour, i do think
that the slim's crowd itself was way ruder than the santa cruz crowd.
weird...
anyway, of the almost 30 ig shows that i have been to, i am really noticing
that trend. recently, people have been ruder and more apt to cutting to get
up front. my advice: arrive early if you want to get up front (duh!) and
politely tell the cutters and pushers what time you arrived. it didn't
really work at nashville (hahah), but we still got somewhat up front, and the
people who cut had to at least think about it.
anyway, off to grade papers...
:-) karen
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i've been a fan for the past 10 years and have been going to concerts
for the last 5 or so years. in the beginning it seemed like people were
more relaxed, more laid back, and the concerts were always the
highlight of my year. suffragette sessions in chicago is still one of
my favorites; i got there 8 hours early, sat in line with everyone
else, and had a blast. and when the doors opened, the people who were
there all day were at the front of the stage (if they wanted to be).


i remember that show. and i remember how awesome it was. i was one of those early arrivers. no one cut. no one had the nerve to push the people who had been waiting all day aside. that was one of the most awesome experiences of my life.

i do agree with amy, though. i've been going to ig shows for the past 6 or 7 years now, and it seems like crowds have gotten ruder. my low point was columbus, oh in 2000. people were cutting right and left. they had to call the cops in to do crowd control. a group of girls formed their "own line" on the opposite side of the doors. luckily, those of us who had really arrived early got in first (with the help of those pre-show party tickets, but that is a different story), and got right up to the stage. once inside, the crowd was rude (ruder than nashville, i think). someone threw a bottle during "river." amy and emily were so obviously tired and even a bit pissed.

i was not at the slim's solo tour (rats! i was in japan for that whole tour and away from the west coast), but i have many friends in the bay area, and have heard stories similar to amy's. however, on this past tour, i do think that the slim's crowd itself was way ruder than the santa cruz crowd. weird...

anyway, of the almost 30 ig shows that i have been to, i am really noticing that trend. recently, people have been ruder and more apt to cutting to get up front. my advice: arrive early if you want to get up front (duh!) and politely tell the cutters and pushers what time you arrived. it didn't really work at nashville (hahah), but we still got somewhat up front, and the people who cut had to at least think about it.

anyway, off to grade papers...

:-) karen

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so, i was just wondering, and call me naive, but what is the benefit of
spending hours waiting outside a venue to be in the first few rows?
now, don't get me wrong, i know how great it can be, i've been at some
shows really close, and it's great, and intimate and really neat.
however, it seems as though so many ig fans are absolutely hell bent on
being within a certain zone of the stage, that that can overtake the
evening as a whole.
what about appreciating the opportunity to see them at all? what about
appreciating sharing a space? what about feeling lucky just to be in the
room?
i ask, because i'm going to the philly show tonight, and i'll get there
when i get there, and i'll stand where i stand, and pray that no one talks
through the whole damn thing (because that is the one thing that makes me
crazy).
in short, does an ig show become a disappointment for you if you are more
than 10 rows back? what do you gain by being in one place versus another,
and is it truly worth the grief that one goes through in waiting in line,
staking out space, fighting off others, and then being pissed about it
later...?
i ask because i want to understand.
nora

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first off, about getting there early to wait in line....that is part of the
experience. i have met some of the most wonderful people in line and you
see them at the next concert and you talk...sing together.....share food,
the line is a community in and of itself. its not a pain waiting in line
for several hours and if you think it is you shouldn't be doing it. then
y'all experience the concert together and you look forward to seeing each
other again.
being up close is fun, period. i like to be up close, but not all the time.
i'm also short, so it helps to be up front. but its an experience and you
either like it or you don't. sometimes i stay for a few songs and move to
the back to listen to the rest of the show. i have often put other people in
front of me, like a girl we met in san fran who was shorter than us and much
younger. also at the knitting factory in hollywood.
so yes waiting in line is definitely worth it to me for way more reason's
than just getting up close, and standing up close is a great experience
because of the energy, but if i can't be up close it doesn't ruin the show
one bit.
obnoxious drunk people who yell "i love you amy" through all of emilys soft
songs, now that bugs me!! :-)
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i don't have time to write a long post, but i live out west (where shows are
far apart from one another - multiple shows requires lots of travel). i've
been to about 40 ig shows. i'm always in the front. sometimes it takes
money, somtimes it takes time, sometimes it takes good luck and karma.
actually, it most always takes all of the above.
fwiw, on this little tour, i was at the two in boulder, sf, santa cruz, kgsr
in austin, and austin.
for the most part, i found the people in all of these places generally
delightful and i treasure the time spent hanging out with all of them/you.
(although i wish i had been less distracted in ca with who tix going
onsale... but that's another story that only jason would understand!) with
the exception of one or two obnoxious, drunk people each night, i thought all
of the crowds were great. at least up front, where i was.
oh, and a few other comments... (all imo, of course!)
* nothing wrong with building coalition and working in shifts. beats the
same two or three groups competing year after year and just driving the
start time earlier and earlier.
* always let the people behind you know what the scoop is so that there are
no hard feelings. (if i have one or two people coming later, i usually have
them come in behind one or two of the groups behind me who have been waiting.)
* standing at rock concerts is appropriate behaviour (although not on top of
chairs). if you want to sit with an unobstructed view, go to the symphony.
don't get me wrong. it's nice when i have a front row seat and can sit at my
leisure. however, i would never ask someone in front of me to sit down at a
rock concert. imo, it's up to me to stand, if i want to see better.
ok. gotta go. thanks for listening. wish i had time to write about my
adventures. in brief, it was all great.
unfortunately, my local shows (co) were the weakest of the bunch. don't get
me wrong, they were all good (and possibly the most fun with so many friends
and family members), but i think it's just that they weren't ready to be back
on the road after only a week at home following europe.
i missed seattle and portland, so for me, slim's in sf is when they really
started to soar. great night. (and the slim's staff was marvelous in
handling the crowd and the ticket situation.) i remembered why i get on
airplanes to go see these women making music. they rock my world.
the catalyst show in sc was truly wonderful. the high stage sucks, but with
my neck injury, i opted for the stairs on the side. strange to have no
contact with them, but an interesting, different vantage point. what a treat
to have michael franti open. i've been a fan of him and spearhead since '95.
i didn't realize that he had hooked up with a&e on the cuba exchange. very
cool. and apparently, e taught him basic guitar. :-) amazing how an 1:30
show can seem long after the one hour mini-shows. (my only major bitch with
ig shows in general is that i think they're way too short. personally, i
wish they'd play at least 2:30, but amy's a punker, and as long as she
disagrees with me, i'm sol. seems that being a who / springsteen / melissa /
dead concert goer has gotten me spoiled.) imo, mystery was the treat of the
night.
catalyst note: i had tix to see them there in '89 and sold them in order to
stay home and study. i feel like i finally closed the circle with this show.

austin radio station was very cool. room of about 30-40 people. comfortable
chairs. front row, center. yay! dj was an actual fan, which always makes
it more fun. the hard part was the fact that it wasn't appropriate to stand!
austin show was great. in a dive bar. low stage (my fave). carolyn from nm
was first in line (ahead myself in the #2 slot). she asked very politely
that i not pass her when doors opened, so she had her coveted dead center
spot. it was all good. i even got the front row smoker to leave the area to
smoke before the show started. whew! (going to shows in co and ca, i'm
accustomed to no smoking.)
in my experience, all of the crowds were predominanatly full of cool people
who were heartfelt fans. that's the best part of a ga club show. it brings
out the hardcore faithful. i thought it was great.
also, i noticed that the set got slightly longer as the shows wore on. yay!
12 boulder - fox (i was also in the house for soundcheck and got to
hear them play 8 together
7+int boulder - e-town
13 sf - slim's
17 santa cruz - catalyst
4+int austin - kgsr
14 austin - mercury
i love the new material. finally felt at home with it by the end of my run.
my only disappointment is that i wasn't keen on the rest of the setlists.
best setlist, imo, was the one the road crew picked for anaheim.
unfortunately, i wasn't there! as a small consolation, sulli gave me a set
list from that show. (going to you, robin and lori, if you don't already
have one.)
ok. now i've really gotta get on to other things. hope you've all enjoyed
reading. hope my thoughts don't provoke any flames. as a matter of fact,
even if you disagree with anything, please don't flame. i'm just stating my
opinions.
cheers,
lauren from co
p.s. thanks to all of the cool people i met in every city. it was a
pleasure.

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i don't have time to write a long post, but i live out west (where shows are far apart from one another - multiple shows requires lots of travel). i've been to about 40 ig shows. i'm always in the front. sometimes it takes money, somtimes it takes time, sometimes it takes good luck and karma. actually, it most always takes all of the above.

fwiw, on this little tour, i was at the two in boulder, sf, santa cruz, kgsr in austin, and austin.

for the most part, i found the people in all of these places generally delightful and i treasure the time spent hanging out with all of them/you. (although i wish i had been less distracted in ca with who tix going onsale... but that's another story that only jason would understand!) with the exception of one or two obnoxious, drunk people each night, i thought all of the crowds were great. at least up front, where i was.

oh, and a few other comments... (all imo, of course!)
* nothing wrong with building coalition and working in shifts. beats the same two or three groups competing year after year and just driving the start time earlier and earlier.
* always let the people behind you know what the scoop is so that there are no hard feelings. (if i have one or two people coming later, i usually have them come in behind one or two of the groups behind me who have been waiting.)
* standing at rock concerts is appropriate behaviour (although not on top of chairs). if you want to sit with an unobstructed view, go to the symphony. don't get me wrong. it's nice when i have a front row seat and can sit at my leisure. however, i would never ask someone in front of me to sit down at a rock concert. imo, it's up to me to stand, if i want to see better.

ok. gotta go. thanks for listening. wish i had time to write about my adventures. in brief, it was all great.

unfortunately, my local shows (co) were the weakest of the bunch. don't get me wrong, they were all good (and possibly the most fun with so many friends and family members), but i think it's just that they weren't ready to be back on the road after only a week at home following europe.

i missed seattle and portland, so for me, slim's in sf is when they really started to soar. great night. (and the slim's staff was marvelous in handling the crowd and the ticket situation.) i remembered why i get on airplanes to go see these women making music. they rock my world.

the catalyst show in sc was truly wonderful. the high stage sucks, but with my neck injury, i opted for the stairs on the side. strange to have no contact with them, but an interesting, different vantage point. what a treat to have michael franti open. i've been a fan of him and spearhead since '95. i didn't realize that he had hooked up with a&e on the cuba exchange. very cool. and apparently, e taught him basic guitar. :-) amazing how an 1:30 show can seem long after the one hour mini-shows. (my only major bitch with ig shows in general is that i think they're way too short. personally, i wish they'd play at least 2:30, but amy's a punker, and as long as she disagrees with me, i'm sol. seems that being a who / springsteen / melissa / dead concert goer has gotten me spoiled.) imo, mystery was the treat of the night.

catalyst note: i had tix to see them there in '89 and sold them in order to stay home and study. i feel like i finally closed the circle with this show.

austin radio station was very cool. room of about 30-40 people. comfortable chairs. front row, center. yay! dj was an actual fan, which always makes it more fun. the hard part was the fact that it wasn't appropriate to stand!

austin show was great. in a dive bar. low stage (my fave). carolyn from nm was first in line (ahead myself in the #2 slot). she asked very politely that i not pass her when doors opened, so she had her coveted dead center spot. it was all good. i even got the front row smoker to leave the area to smoke before the show started. whew! (going to shows in co and ca, i'm accustomed to no smoking.)

in my experience, all of the crowds were predominanatly full of cool people who were heartfelt fans. that's the best part of a ga club show. it brings out the hardcore faithful. i thought it was great.

also, i noticed that the set got slightly longer as the shows wore on. yay!
12 boulder - fox (i was also in the house for soundcheck and got to hear them play 8 together
7+int boulder - e-town
13 sf - slim's
17 santa cruz - catalyst
4+int austin - kgsr
14 austin - mercury

i love the new material. finally felt at home with it by the end of my run. my only disappointment is that i wasn't keen on the rest of the setlists. best setlist, imo, was the one the road crew picked for anaheim. unfortunately, i wasn't there! as a small consolation, sulli gave me a set list from that show. (going to you, robin and lori, if you don't already have one.)

ok. now i've really gotta get on to other things. hope you've all enjoyed reading. hope my thoughts don't provoke any flames. as a matter of fact, even if you disagree with anything, please don't flame. i'm just stating my opinions.

cheers,

lauren from co

p.s. thanks to all of the cool people i met in every city. it was a pleasure.

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sorry for the nigc folks but seem to be having a problem when i reply
to chris' email.
chris, i do want those tickets, and will let you know by 5:00 today if
my check has arrived or not. when it comes i will mail it promptly.
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i'll be in philly tonight too and i'm almost never close to the stage by
choice. why ? because my son, jordan always accompanies me to all the ig
shows and we sit/stand where he would be most able to see. he is 12 now and
went to his first ig concert at age 7. in fact, jordan's orthodontist and
her assistant will be at the concert tonight too. jordan listed the girls as
his favorite music group and they asked him about it and found out that we
were getting tickets they asked us to buy tickets for them too. it will be
their first ig concert. isn't that neat? look for us tonight, i'll be
wearing my amy swenson made "melbourne wrecking crew" shirt and jordan will
have on his cons t-shirt. we always bring binoculars and we'll be heading
for a spot on the balcony so ig's youngest male fan can see!
happy, happy, happy!!!
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hey all,
for those of you who are traveling to atlanta for the variety club show, on
the 12th, you should seriously consider sticking around for voices on the
verge at eddie's attic on the 14th. i was just on their website and noticed
the date. wow what a great week that would be, ig on tuesday and votv on
thursday. i am envious.
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well apparently my last email to chris went through afterall, i din't
think it would so i sent that last post to chris to the list. sorry to
take up space.
sinerest
appologies barb
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i am with traci on that one. i was lucky to have vov in los angeles the
week before ig started the westcoast leg of the tour. what a treat, all
that good music in just a couple of weeks!!
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>awesome show- were you those people in the front row with the cameras?
i
>was leaning on the balcony upstairs and would kill to see a picture
of >amy
>from last nite.
i was near people with cameras, but i didn't have one myself. i
was the idiot directly to the right of emily, bouncing up and down
like a monkey.
a funny thought i had and then forgot- when they decided not to play
whatever song emily had requested and chose chickenman instead, amy
commented that emily had been usurped. leading emily to make the
totally innane comment: "sometimes it's good to be usurped, y'all.
" i think it was the "y'all" that did it for me. :-)
and lauren, re:
>i don't have time to write a long post
i usually find the minute i write that, i usually write something
really long. like my original subject line was "quick new york comments,
" but 20 minutes later... ;-)
>(although i wish i had been less distracted in ca with who tix going
>onsale... but that's another story that only jason would understand!)
i'm with you! :-) is anybody else on this list the very rare mutt
breed of indigo girls/who fan?
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i have two sick friends who aren't going to the show tonight. will sell them
at face value(20 bucks each) to the first person who can meet me there
tonight at 6:30 pm. let me know if you want them.
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jason, jason!!
i knew you were a special one back on brian's board!! who rocks and always
has. i think there be a few of us indigo/who fans. wish i could go to a who
concert, but i spent all my vacation timwe and all my money doing indigo on
the west coast.
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hi all,
since i haven't seen it posted yet, amy and emily made
a surprise visit to wfuv (a great nyc community radio
station) yesterday afternoon. spoke for 20 minutes or
so and played mof, ygts and maybe one other (can't
remember). anyway, the host asked about last year's
ballet project. they said there had been some talk
about taking the performance on the road, and that
they'll be doing it again in atlanta next february.
yay!
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we were at least two of the ones in the front row with a camera...we saw one
other person roaming around with one of those big professional cameras once
in a while ..we had the dinky disposable...but we got great shots from a
disposable at the stag show last year from almost the same spot on the floor
..so we've got high hopes of some great photos-which we'll post somewhere..
great review jason...ya didn't miss a thing out...just want to add that
getting there almost four hours before the show really adds to the
experience, whether you end up close to the stage in the end or not....we
met some great fans..=)
back to lurking..
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> awesome show- were you those people in the front row with the cameras? i
> was leaning on the balcony upstairs and would kill to see a picture of amy
> from last nite.
> your review summed it up- except that i found kid fears especially
amazing.
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> les
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the day after ig - votv is playing beantown - dunno if it is sold out - i
need to do some research.
the show is at somerville theater, where i have seen jess and rose both
play, but not together.
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this was indeed a great show. i've been a fan since 96 and i've seen
them eight times and this was the best show i've been to. this could
be partially due to the fact that we were all trapped in that lounge
downstairs for an hour and a half before they let us upstairs, and i had
nothing better to do than wolf down a bunch of woodpecker hard cider
at $5.00-$6.00 a bottle (the prices kept changing...weird). also
because i met tons of really cool people and alix olsin, a nyc-based
poet whom i adore.
anyways, my best friend beth ann went with me. this was like the
fourth show i have dragged her to. she had a great time as well but
was a little disappointed in one fact. before the show, amy and emily
pulled up in a black suv and got onto their tour bus. it appeared they
had been out shopping. they didn't really look at the people in line for
their show. after the show, we waited outside the club for amy & emily
to leave. there were about ten of us waiting total. we were hoping to
get an autograph, handshake, something. while waiting we did get to
meet sulli, and she told us this would be a good night to meet them,
presumably since it was such a small show. we must have waited
for about an hour, during which 20 or 30 people left carrying
autographed photos from the "afterparty". one girl was asked how
she got into the afterparty and she said that her ex-roommate's sister
was a friend of a relative of emily's, or some such "six degrees of ig"
nonsense.
amy came out first and rushed to her cab. she glanced at us and half-
waved and said "thanks, y'all." and like that, she was gone. there
was a similar showing from emily, though she was a little more
personable.
now i understand they must have been exhausted and they've
probably met a thousand fans just like me, but it was still
disappointing. i mean, we waited outside. it was kinda cold. i had to
pee really bad but held it because i wanted to meet them. i've had
similar experiences with them, where a group of us would wait to no
avail. and then 20 or so people get into the afterparty and get
autographed photos?
so my friend said that she was disappointed in their personal
connection with their audience. on stage, their connection is great.
but offstage, they don't even look at us. does anybody else get this
impression?
jeremy
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van gogh's relatives
1) his obnoxious
brother..........................please gogh
2) his dizzy aunt
................................verti gogh
3) the brother who ate
prunes.....................gotta gogh
4)the brother who worked at a convenience store..stopn
gogh
5)the grandfather from yugoslavia................u
gogh
6)the brother who bleached his clothes white.....hue
gogh
7)the cousin from illinois.......................chica
gogh
8)his magician
uncle.............................wherediddy gogh
9)his mexican cousin.............................amee
gogh
10) the mexican cousin's american half
brother.....grin gogh
11)the nephew who drove a stage
coach.............wellsfar gogh
12) the constipated uncle
.........................cant gogh
13) the ballroom dancing aunt......................tan
gogh
14) the bird lover
uncle...........................flamin gogh
15) his nephew psychoanalyst.......................e
gogh
16) the fruit loving cousin........................man
gogh
17) an aunt who taught positive
thinking...........wayto gogh
18)the little bouncy nephew.......................poe
gogh
19) a sister who loved disco.......................go
gogh
20)the mafia
uncle.....................................gotti gogh
21)the monopoly playing brother..............do not
pass gogh
22)the sisters in a band
............................gogh gogh girls
23)******the female cousins also in a
band.........indigogh girls!*********
24) the stowaway
nephew..........................cargogh
25) and his niece who travels the country in a van.
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> and then 20 or so people get into the afterparty and get
>autographed photos?
that is a promotional thing
>so my friend said that she was disappointed in their personal
>connection with their audience. on stage, their connection is great.
>but offstage, they don't even look at us. does anybody else get this
>impression?
honestly - it varies from day to day - i have sen ig for close to ten years
- sometimes they have stopped and chatted with a whole group of people -
really great conversations and everything - other times - they would not
have even waved - and you would not have seen them - they have bad days,
other committments, things that are going on in their lives too - i mean -
there are very few bands as accessable as ig - i mean - the counting crows
are about as down to earth as it gets, billy bragg meets most days - i
could go on. i think it is hard to go to a show and not hope *some sort* of
interaction happens - i'm as guilty as anyone - probably by a mile or two
than most...8^)
but if you just let it happen and try not to force a wonderful thing from
taking place - it is that much more magical - i know that sounds corny as
all heck, but it really has proven to be true in a number of settings in my
life.
peace-
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after reading all the posts about concerts, i wonder if someone has
published the *rules* for attending concerts? i think i might write miss
manners and see what she says? lol
not that everybody will follow the rules anyway.
pax,
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still need a boston ticket or two. anybody?
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hi all,
i was at the new york show last night as well. it was fabulous!!! it was
only my second time seeing the girls together, and, i also saw amy at the
bowery ballroom last spring on her stag tour. i was about 4-5 people back on
the emily side.
well, before the show, i went out and got a minidisc recorder, and took my
first stab at booting. it didn't come out half bad, and i'd love to share it
with everyone, but, i need help. i am a little past the generation where
computers were introduced in school, and i don't know how to transfer my
minidisc recording to a compact disc. the music is pretty clear, with a
little static here and there, and a couple of spoken comments are heard in a
couple of songs. but, overall, it's not too bad. it was great to come home
last night and get to listen to the show all over again.
i will also be recording the drew u show tomorrow.
so, if anyone can help, please contact me off list.
thanks,
wendi
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date: thu, 28 feb 2002 01:34:25 -0500
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and so does my friend! email her or me....preferrably her....at
shortstuff_106@hotmail.com
thanks
carol

subject: boston
date: wed, 27 feb 2002 22:45:43 est
still need a boston ticket or two. anybody?
peace mel


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bill from the ballet here in atlanta also mentioned on one of the boards that they would be doing it again and adding some new songs!!!!! <br />
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apparently the crowd wasn't that into it... <br />
<br />
i heard only about 5 people stood up at the front and emily mentioned that people were more into dessert than the show... <br />
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d:) <br />
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hey everybody,
i just wanted to make a few comments on a some things. first, the reason i
for one, like to be close to the stage is a very simple reason: i am 5' 3,
and the closer i am the easier it is to see, also i like to take pictures w/
as few heads and flailing hands as possible. also, i have found that most of
the people upfront are there to watch & listen to the music, so those are the
people i like to surround myself with!
it is such a complete drag to be so excited to go to a show and be stuck near
and around jackasses who talk, yell out stupid, comments, and my biggest pet
peeve, yell out the "i love you's" during quite parts in slow songs. now, i
know everyone has a different way of doing things, some people like to sleep
on airplanes, i like to get drunk and talk loud, this pisses a lot of people
off who fly all the time, but well that is my way! i hate the subway, again,
i don't read a book quietly, or listen to a discman, i talk to whom ever i am
with and try not to throw up, again, just my way! now, when i go to the
movies, i sit and watch the movie, i don't talk and bother the other 100 or
so people who paid to watch a movie, when i go to a play, i sit and watch the
play (quietly),again, so as not bother the rest of the people there enjoying
the play, and finally when i go to a concert i watch and listen, and clap and
yell when it is appropriate, and sing along when it is encouraged, and, dance
and make requests, and everything else just like everyone likes to do, i
think the crucial difference is ... timing! i do not know ig personally, so i
cannot speak directly for them, but i would be willing to bet that they
probably have never said to each other after a show..
"wasn't that great when jackass # 500,000 yelled out galielo after the second
song right in the middle of (insert favorite ballad here), yea, that was
great, we should've got their phone # and taken them on the road w/ us"! i
am, again, willing to venture that will never happen. now am i "the authority
" on proper concert etiquette? well, of course not, i am just offering my
opinion and the opinions of some very dear friends and fellow concert fans.
sorry if this was long winded, but i do hope it answered some of those
burning why questions....
take care all,
janet
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hey all,
i just had to write something about tuesdays show at the bowery. oh my gawd!!!
it was by far, one of the best shows i have ever seen!! and i say this w/ no
bias, cause i am from massachusetts....ny is the best crowd!! respectful,
everyone listened to the songs, and it seemed to me like everyone had a great
time!! a & e, were awesome, it is no wonder to me why they love to play ny so
much. and for the first time in my life i was blessed to have a man standing
behind me who sang like an angel!!!
he harmonized so beautifully, he would've made michael stipe proud :)
if anyone got a bootleg of this show, i would love a copy, we took a bunch of
pictures, and if i can ever figure out how to work this gd scanner i will
post them!!
so my hat is off to all the nyers,you guys rock!! i only hope boston is as
good!!
oh, and 1 other thing, maybe the people who got in to the after show party
where contest winners, we won tix to a meet & greet in boston, maybe ny had
the same kind of deal.....just a thought!
enjoy this lovely day all,
janet
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nigc, but don't tell me this isn't of interest..
sherman alexie will be giving a convocation speech at the best place on
earth. anyone within spitting or driving or hitchhiking distance should
come. it's free, finney chapel is gorgeous, and oberlin is a wonderful
town. plug plug plug. let me know if you want to come but have nowhere to
stay.
oberlin college is located approximately 35 miles southwest of cleveland, at
the intersection of ohio routes 58 and 511. directions and a map can be
found at <http://www.oberlin.edu/coladm/about/direct.html>.
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convocation series: sherman alexie
"killing indians: myths, lies, and exaggerations"
tues, march 5, 8:00 pm
finney chapel
free
sponsored by the office of the president
sherman alexie has been called "one of the lyric voices of our times" by the
new york times book review. a spokane/coeur d'alene indian and prolific
novelist, poet, and screenwriter, he addresses race relations, identity, and
stereotypes with humor and candor. his first screenplay, "smoke signals",
became the first feature film produced, written, and directed by american
indians. it premiered at the 1998 sundance film festival, where it won the
audience award and filmmakers trophy. alexie won the world heavyweight
championship poetry bout in 1998, 1999, and 2000 - becoming the first poet
to hold the title three consecutive years - and the regional 1999 new york
heavyweight poetry bout. his newest collection of short stories, the
toughest indian in the world, was published in may 2000. he is adapting his
novel reservation blues for the screen and is a contributing editor for the
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i was watching the grammys last night and saw a commercial for this movie
coming on sunday night at 8pm (cst), if anyone is interested.

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matthew cooke , kat lanteigne , sean bell, alexa gilmour, jake simons,
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at 10:22 am 2/28/2002 -0500, dee yellowlees wrote:
>apparently the crowd wasn't that into it...
>
>i heard only about 5 people stood up at the front and emily mentioned that
>people were more into dessert than the show...
this and other comments about recent shows just makes me want
to tear my hair out - the girls aren't coming to phoenix, az this year, and
we always have great shows here - they fill up the venue with hundreds
of people and everyone sings and cheers and claps and dances and has a
great time (and no one yells out "gallileo", although someone did hand-deliver
a gift basket with a sweet request from a mother and daughter to play "you
and me of the 10,000 wars" because it meant a lot for their relationship).
unfortunately they haven't been out here to play since february of 1999.
honestly, i don't understand why after selling millions of albums and winning
grammy awards and international acclaim and a rabid fan following, that the
girls would still be subjected to the kind of treatment mentioned above?
what gives?

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see, i was at that concert too. again an early arriver and i agree that it was an overwhelmingly positive experience, but i do also remember a large group of people arriving right before doors and hanging out in the lobby to try to jump the line. does anyone else remmeber that? everyone around me got really angry (i did too) and i think eventually a few people went in and got guard type people to try to make the line jumpers go to the back. so, i'm thinking that the bad experiences are there if you notice them. although at some venues, with some people, they can be ahrder to ignore than at/with others.
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hey folks,
this is forwarded from the news-only list...
-sherlyn
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>from: lagriega@aol.com
>date: thu, 28 feb 2002 07:55:52 est
>
>sully gave me a setlist............i am honored...........heres the
>original plan:
>
>nyc 2/26/2002
>
>gone again
>least complicated
>become you
>deconstruction
>shame on you
>virginia woolf
>yield
>our deliverance
>closer to fine
>starkville
>galileo
>kid fears
>she's saving me
>moment of forgiveness
>
>i yelled for bitterroot...and the rendition of chickenman and the
>bitterroot mix was great.
>
>it was the first time i saw them..and they blew me away......took a whole
>day to recover from experience.....
>
>re: sulli she is amazing.......would love her job!
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as neil pointed out a couple of weeks ago, the promotion shows are
all about generating buzz for the upcoming release. a good portion
of the tickets are reserved for radio stations, record stores, and
other industry people. many of these are given away in promotions to
fans, but quite a number (and often the best of the bunch) are kept
as perks for employees. those people are not necessarily the rabid
fan type.
i've been fortunate enough to attend one promo show (boston mama kin
sots -- thanks again amy i still have the photograph!) this was
definitely the case there. some of the most rabid of the rabid,
plus others looking for something to do on a weeknight.
-- chris

>at 10:22 am 2/28/2002 -0500, dee yellowlees wrote:
>>apparently the crowd wasn't that into it...
>>
>>i heard only about 5 people stood up at the front and emily mentioned that
>>people were more into dessert than the show...
>
>this and other comments about recent shows just makes me want
>to tear my hair out - the girls aren't coming to phoenix, az this year, and
>we always have great shows here - they fill up the venue with hundreds
>of people and everyone sings and cheers and claps and dances and has a
>great time (and no one yells out "gallileo", although someone did hand-deliver
>a gift basket with a sweet request from a mother and daughter to play "you
>and me of the 10,000 wars" because it meant a lot for their relationship).
>unfortunately they haven't been out here to play since february of 1999.
>
>honestly, i don't understand why after selling millions of albums and winning
>grammy awards and international acclaim and a rabid fan following, that the
>girls would still be subjected to the kind of treatment mentioned above?
>what gives?
>
>
>jenna
>wherever@gato-loco.com
>
>chaos, panic, and disorder...my work here is done.
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i was very fortunate at tax time and just bought a new imac with a cd
burner. this is my first burner and most of my old ig boots are on
tape. so i'm looking to replace them with cds. these are the ones
that i'm looking to trade for:
artpark ny 8/16/96 (my first ig show)
new orleans jazz fest ('96 i think, with joan baez)
devil's in our bones
this is what i have on cd that i can trade
saratoga ca 7/25/01
saratoga ca 7/26/01
9:30 club, unsure of the date, sos-era, has a really cool cover of
"wish you were here"
fillmore 7/24/01
amy ray & the butchies on acoustic cafe 9/01
(it's not actually acoustic, but it's really good and there are many
other great artists on this program)
i could also do b&p. thanks!
jer
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