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date: wed, 15 may 2002 08:36:16 -0400
reply-to: shedyourskin 23 <shedyourskin23@hotmail.com>
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subject: extra portsmouth ticket--front row
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hey everyone,
i have a front row center ticket for the portsmouth show on 5/27 that i am not going to be able to use *sniffle, sniffle*. asking face + ticketbastard fees. person who emails me with the most creative story about why you want it (hint: how you will pass on the good karma), it's yours. $46.50 and i can't remember the seat # off the top of my head.
shed


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date: wed, 15 may 2002 12:51:45 -0700
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hmmmm...so vonda shepherd is opening for ig in berkely
and k's choice is opening in la. i don't know which 4h
event is opening for them at the orange county fair.
perhaps sheep shearing. it would fit in with the
stereotypical lesbian hair cuts.
oh well. i guess the butchies wouldn't fit in with
this album's "vibe" as well as they did cons, huh?
susan, rather disappointed....
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date: thu, 16 may 2002 11:57:29 +0200
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hi there,=20
=20
here is the person who gave you the string ;-) (thanks again for the
setlist) i will scan the setlist and put it on my website
<http://ig.rocks.it/> but for those who cannot wait i'll type the songs
(as they were on the setlist) here:
=20
01. power of two
02. gone again
03. cold beer + remote control
04. become you
05. she's saving me
06. oziline
07. collecting you
08. faye tucker
09. closer to fine (together with pina)
10. i don't wanna know
11. ghost
12. moment of forgiveness
13. get out the map
14. shame on you
15. woodsong
16. starkville
17. galileo
encore:
18. soon be to nothing (together with cara dillon)
19. chickenman
=20
ps. if you want to hear it all again (or for the first time) check back
to my website often, it is bound to be on there in the near future.
a funny thing happend after the show, the security ppl saw my microphone
on my hat and took me aside, then asked me "is that a microphone" so i
said "yes", then they asked me if i recorded the show, and again i said
yes. they sort of looked funny at me for being that honest so i told
them that the artists were oke with ppl recording their shows. well
after that they asked me to wait with one of them while another went
backstage to "check with the artists". after a while they came back and
told me that indeed the artists had no problems with ppl recording their
shows, i might as well have had the microphone open in my hand is what
they (amy and emily) said. well i like to clap and have my hands free
during a concert so the hat is the best option for me ;-)
=20
miriam (with the hat!)
=20
-----original message-----
from: indigo girls mailing list [<mailto:indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org>]
on behalf of mic and ruth
sent: tuesday, 14 may, 2002 20:15
to: indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org
subject: edinburgh

a quick note, and please excuse my language but last night so fucking
rocked !!!!!
the girls were awesome, the irish singer was amazing (and woo hoo to
seth), and the crowd was brilliant.
they seemed really chatty which was great and said they loved edinburgh
(go dun eidan !!!). emily said she had been to a tartan shop that day
and amy had been round some art galleries and loved the scottish stuff.
the quote to make the papers was when amy commented on the hall looking
like a church but they served beer inside, and if churches had been like
that when she was twelve she might have gone more often=20
i cant give you a run down of songs because i gave my setlist to the
nice person who gave me one of amy's strings, but they ended with
chickenman/bitteroot. cant wait to hear a boot !!!
completely without any permission, the review of the concert from the
edinburgh evening news.=3d=3d
=20
long may the indigo girls keep raining . .=20
simon mckenzie=20


indigo girls=20
the queen=92s hall=20
****
outside the queen=92s hall there was a downpour so torrential that randy
newman might have been moved to write a song about it had he been in
town, but the elements were powerless to dissuade the adoring legions of
indigo girls fans that soon had the old room bursting at the seams.=20
as the crowd dried off we were treated to the exceptional vocal talents
of austrian singer-songwriter pina, a young woman whose size belies her
ability to out-holler pearl jam=92s eddie vedder.=20
along with the occasionally over-the-top electric guitarist who
accompanies her, she still needs to learn a little restraint and has yet
to write a real standout song, but anyone interested to hear more can
see her at la belle angele supporting real world labelmate joseph arthur
at la belle angele this friday.=20
then the delightful cara dillon made dozens of new fans with her mix of
irish traditionals and lovelorn songs of sad introspection. however, she
was well aware that the fanatic crowd were politely hearing her out,
itching to hear the headliners.=20
when amy ray and emily saliers took to the stage they received the sort
of welcome that any artist would gladly give up thousands of hours of
radio airplay for. while this duo aren=92t exactly household names, the
households that do know them love them a great deal.=20
failing the odd string breaking - as one did during the tumultuous
protest song faye tucker (about a woman on death row) - there was little
that went wrong.=20
ray and saliers sing and play together so well that there is no
possibility of not getting a top-notch show. they are almost obliged to
throw in the celebratory closer to fine, the first song from their first
album way back in 1989, but it was testament to their continued
brilliance that the title track from their brand new album, become you,
outshines any other in the set.=20
both ray and saliers were intrigued with the architecture inside the
queen=92s hall, and were more than happy to play in what looks like a
temperance church while half the audience sip beer and wine.=20
"y=92know," said ray, "if church had been more like this i might have =
kept
going along when i was 12."
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hi=20 there,
<span=20 class=3d132594609-16052002
here=20 is the person who gave you the string ;-) (thanks again for the setlist) = i will=20 scan the setlist and put it on my website <a=20 href='3d"http://ig.rocks.it"'http://ig.rocks.it but for those = who cannot=20 wait i'll type the songs (as they were on the setlist) = here:
<span=20 class=3d132594609-16052002
01.=20 power of two
02.=20 gone again
03.=20 cold beer + remote control
04.=20 become you
05.=20 she's saving me
06.=20 oziline
07.=20 collecting you
08.=20 faye tucker
09.=20 closer to fine (together with pina)
10. i=20 don't wanna know
11.=20 ghost
12.=20 moment of forgiveness
13.=20 get out the map
14.=20 shame on you
15.=20 woodsong
16.=20 starkville
17.=20 galileo
<span=20 class=3d132594609-16052002encore:
18.=20 soon be to nothing (together with cara dillon)
19.=20 chickenman
<span=20 class=3d132594609-16052002
ps. if=20 you want to hear it all again (or for the first time) check back to my = website=20 often, it is bound to be on there in the near = future.
a=20 funny thing happend after the show, the security ppl saw my microphone = on my hat=20 and took me aside, then asked me "is that a microphone" so i said "yes", = then=20 they asked me if i recorded the show, and again i said yes. they sort of = looked=20 funny at me for being that honest so i told them that the artists were = oke with=20 ppl recording their shows. well after that they asked me to wait with = one of=20 them while another went backstage to "check with the artists". after a = while=20 they came back and told me that indeed the artists had no problems with = ppl=20 recording their shows, i might as well have had the microphone open in = my hand=20 is what they (amy and emily) said. well i like to clap and have my = hands free=20 during a concert so the hat is the best option for me = ;-)
<span=20 class=3d132594609-16052002
miriam=20 (with the hat!)
<span=20 class=3d132594609-16052002
<font=20 size="3d2" face="3dtahoma"-----original message-----
from: = indigo girls=20 mailing list [mailto:indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org] on behalf of = mic=20 and ruth
sent: tuesday, 14 may, 2002 20:15
to:=20 indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org
subject:=20 edinburgh

a quick note, and please excuse my = language but=20 last night so fucking rocked !!!!!
the girls were awesome, the irish = singer was=20 amazing (and woo hoo to seth), and the crowd was = brilliant.
they seemed really chatty which was = great and=20 said they loved edinburgh (go dun eidan !!!). emily said she had been = to a=20 tartan shop that day and amy had been round some art galleries and = loved the=20 scottish stuff. the quote to make the papers was when amy commented on = the=20 hall looking like a church but they served beer inside, and if = churches had=20 been like that when she was twelve she might have gone more often=20
i cant give you a run down of songs = because i=20 gave my setlist to the nice person who gave me one of amy's strings, = but they=20 ended with chickenman/bitteroot. cant wait to hear a boot = !!!
completely without any permission, = the review of=20 the concert from the edinburgh evening news.=3d=3d
long may the indigo girls keep raining . = .=20   <font=20 face="3dverdana"simon mckenzie =   <font=20 color="3d#333333"indigo girls =  the queen's=20 hall  ****  outside the queen's hall = there was a=20 downpour so torrential that randy newman might have been moved = to write=20 a song about it had he been in town, but the elements were = powerless to=20 dissuade the adoring legions of indigo girls fans that soon had = the old=20 room bursting at the seams.   as the crowd dried off we = were=20 treated to the exceptional vocal talents of austrian = singer-songwriter=20 pina, a young woman whose size belies her ability to out-holler = pearl=20 jam's eddie vedder.   along with the occasionally = over-the-top=20 electric guitarist who accompanies her, she still needs to learn = a=20 little restraint and has yet to write a real standout song, but = anyone=20 interested to hear more can see her at la belle angele = supporting real=20 world labelmate joseph arthur at la belle angele this friday.=20   then the delightful cara dillon made dozens of new fans = with her=20 mix of irish traditionals and lovelorn songs of sad = introspection.=20 however, she was well aware that the fanatic crowd were politely = hearing=20 her out, itching to hear the headliners.   when amy ray = and emily=20 saliers took to the stage they received the sort of welcome that = any=20 artist would gladly give up thousands of hours of radio airplay = for.=20 while this duo aren't exactly household names, the = households that do=20 know them love them a great deal.   failing the odd string = breaking - as one did during the tumultuous protest song faye = tucker=20 (about a woman on death row) - there was little that went wrong. =   ray and saliers sing and play together so well that = there is no=20 possibility of not getting a top-notch show. they are almost = obliged to=20 throw in the celebratory closer to fine, the first song from = their first=20 album way back in 1989, but it was testament to their continued=20 brilliance that the title track from their brand new album, = become you,=20 outshines any other in the set.   both ray and saliers = were=20 intrigued with the architecture inside the queen's hall, = and were more=20 than happy to play in what looks like a temperance church while = half the=20 audience sip beer and wine.   "y'know," said ray, = "if church had=20 been more like this i might have kept going along when i was=20 12."
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i forgot to mention in my last post that if you are looking for any of
the european setlists, they will all be on my site <http://ig.rocks.it/>
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miriam,
was i dreaming or did they substitute kid fears for moment of
forgiveness ??
i hope you captured the atmosphere as well, it was stunning :-)
jim

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okay folks..i have tried everything i can think of to set my list service to
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thank you !!!! i forgot the dash thank you all....i thin ki have too much
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date: thu, 16 may 2002 19:09:32 -0500
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hey all-
i have had an especially busy week at work and can't believe i missed
this, but i was driving to the post office with my year-old daughter about
an hour ago and heard a radio commercial for ig coming to st. louis on my
favorite radio station, which is also the one that sponsors their
appearances in st. louis. they will be here on tuesday, july 2.
so i got home, logged on to the ig site and sure enough, there it was. i
can't believe tickets went on sale wednesday (yesterday) and i missed it...i
called right away and got 19th row on the floor, center section. so i'm just
really happy we get to go and will have decent seats. we were on the phone
the minute tickets went on sale for two iowa shows in june of 2000, and i
think we got 11th and 13th row for those, so i didn't miss out too much.
i've never been way up front for any big concert, anyway, so i don't know
what i'm missing : )
this will likely be the only time i see ig on this tour, since we've
got a little one at home now (who was very amused when i was hollering,
trecie, the indigo girls are coming to st. louis all the way home from the
post office) so i'm just very happy to be able to mark the date on the
calendar and look forward to it.
so, is anyone from the list going to be there as well? we could meet
before for dinner or at least say hello before the show. let me know and
we'll see if we can't plan something : )
have a good night!
michelle
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is there a presale for the ig in atlanta for their
august date? i know they go on sale to the general public pretty soon.
i need the ticketbastard password.
thanks
barb
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i finished a new indigo girls song parody the other day, and i've finally gotten
it up on the charteuse girls archives. it's really only funny if you are
familiar with <http://www.wheresgeorge.com/>, so i won't post the whole thing here.
if you want to read it, it can be found at
<http://liquid2k.com/chkngrrl/parodies/stamp.htm>.
anna
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animals as librarians." --chairman, monty python "gorilla librarian" skit
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creech!!! familiar name. (loves seeing people here that have been on this
list fa-evah)
rotflmao! i also have a dollar registered at wheresgeorge. no hits yet
here either. also have parody listed at chartreuse girls website. highly
embarrassed about that too.
so is that you with the "i grew hemp" stamp next to george's head? hmm?
sorry for the spasticness, y'all. sugar high. chocolate covered pretzels
are crack. word.
toodles
tracy
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southerner

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creech

i finished a new indigo girls song parody the other day, and i've finally
gotten
it up on the charteuse girls archives. it's really only funny if you are
familiar with <http://www.wheresgeorge.com/>, so i won't post the whole thing
here.
if you want to read it, it can be found at
<http://liquid2k.com/chkngrrl/parodies/stamp.htm>.
anna
"you see, i don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people
sit
in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing
wild
animals as librarians." --chairman, monty python "gorilla librarian" skit
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i live here in atl and have heard nothing about a show in august...i hope i've just missed it and there will in fact be one in august. they have two shows in june here in atl at chastain park...i've already gotten tickets from ticketbastard for those shows....
heather

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is there a presale for the ig in atlanta for their
august date? i know they go on sale to the general public pretty soon.
i need the ticketbastard password.
thanks
barb
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quoting practi cat <fearst@gabrobins.com>:
> so is that you with the "i grew hemp" stamp next to george's head? hmm?
uh...no. my stamps say "www.wheresgeorge.com <http://www.wheresgeorge.com/>" and "report sightings of this
bill". sometimes i just handwrite it.
anna
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animals as librarians." --chairman, monty python "gorilla librarian" skit
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<< well, i live here in atlanta, and i have heard nothing about a show
in august.>>
well the girls did have an august date that would have been just them
and an opening act posted before they picked june with the ballette.
maybe they canceled it....damn. i can't make it r for the june shows
because my aunt that i haven't seen in five years is coming up right
around then.....pooh....and i really wanted to come too.
peace
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i've only heard of the june shows at chastain park...nothing in august...if
anyone learns of anything different, please let me know! i won't be going to
the chastain shows due to money issues, as well as negative experiences with
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i've only heard of the june shows at chastain park...nothing in august...if anyone learns of anything different, please let me know! i won't be going to the chastain shows due to money issues, as well as negative experiences with that venue in the past.
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anybody offering any boots of uk shows yet? i'd especially like london and
edinburgh, cos i was at both, but any would be great.
peace,
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yes, am working on the uk boots right now and over the weekend. i'm
also trying to gather my thoughts for some reviews, so...:-)
claudine, who's still in her ig high.
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anybody offering any boots of uk shows yet? i'd especially like london
and
edinburgh, cos i was at both, but any would be great.
peace,
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yap, that's right, i just found out tonight that the show has only six
weeks left......those who can't stand bill maher this is the best news
ever...unfortunately i am not among you, and will really miss him as off
the mark as he sometimes is, he did bring up issues that need addressing
in our society.
and besides that, he's the only one on late night tv that really is a
comedian....(unlike the boneheads on the four other late night shows who
think they're the funniest people around .)
okay so i'm being a little harsh on jay, craig,conan, and (especially)
dave. but i certainly hope we do not get another show like theirs, yet
sadly that seems to be the trend these days.
why is ole bill being cancelled? good question.. he really didn't say
tonight, accept well he probably pissed off one too many people with
his controversial political views.
i guess it was bound to happen sooner or later, i just rather it
happened a lot later than it did.
peace
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just a few quick "thank you's" going to some people...
lena and elaine : for your great organising skills : more specifically lena
for her great negotiating skills and elaine for her ability to organize a
queue in 20 seconds flat....
miriam and the rest of the netherlands fans : every show - my god......
claudine and jen - for dragging me from bristol to wolverhampton to
sheffield....
and everybody else that made this a great tour (way too many to mention....)
(i would try to get some tour reviews together, but i'm on the same indigo
high as claudine at this point...)
john.
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> yes, am working on the uk boots right now and over the weekend. i'm
> also trying to gather my thoughts for some reviews, so...:-)
>
> claudine, who's still in her ig high.
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> anybody offering any boots of uk shows yet? i'd especially like london
> and
> edinburgh, cos i was at both, but any would be great.
> peace,
> eileen
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you mean like the controversial political view of calling the guys and gals
in uniform cowards right after 9/11? personally, i found him boorish but to
cancel the show to put on the idiot from the man show is just flat out
wrong.
oh, and jay is much funnier than dave, imnsho. and i can't stand conan.
ryan
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>oh, and jay is much funnier than dave, imnsho. and i can't stand conan.
>
>ryan
i hate the show - but seeing a taping of conan was a thrill...
pi had way too many anti- disability slurs to even get into - it is funny -
however - that i find out about the cancellation on a list that hasnt had
200 plus posting about bill maher a week..
and dave is funnier looking than jay, and ted koppel will do news better
than dave ever will.
but what do i know - i have some c-span show on now and i think i am going
to watch pbs soon
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isn't this the indigo girls list? did i subscribe to the pi list and forget?
when we start a topic that has nothing to do with indigo girls can we at
least get a nigc in our subject? just a thought...
carla ;o)
"is the glass half-full or empty i ask her as i fill it. she said it doesn't
really matter
pretty soon you're bound to spill it" - emily saliers
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so, who's going?
did y'all get your tickets?
i am psyched because i got first row emily's side! :)
now i just need berkeley tix to go onsale and i am set!
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so, who's going?
did y'all get your tickets?

i am psyched because i got first row emily's side! :)

now i just need berkeley tix to go onsale and i am set!

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i guess your glass is half empty!!!
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least get a nigc in ou= r subject? just a thought...

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oh ouch...that burned..
carla ;o)
"is the glass half-full or empty i ask her as i fill it. she said it doesn't
really matter
pretty soon you're bound to spill it" - emily saliers
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gee!!!!!!! can't you allow a person to forget
once in awhile...if you don't like what you read you can always
subscribe to bounce so you can delete delete delete delete. i forgot
okay?
sorry but that bugs the shit out of me when people knit-pick...just a
thought.
oh, and topics off ig are allowed at least two days according to the
faq.
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so indigo girls got a rather unflattering mention on snl this evening. on weekend update, tina fey was talking about how she wasn't a cute kid. she said, "i looked like a cross between that chick from the indigo girls...and that other chick from the indigo girls." harsh. i'm straight, and i still think amy's a goddess.
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if the episode i am referring too was a repeat and previously discussed,
please forgive me.
wow is all i have to say. i am a big tina fey fan but she housed poor amy
and emily tonight. i can't remember ever hearing a mention of ig on
saturday night live until tonight. and what a beginning. i'll try to set
this up as i was half paying attention.
tina fey is ranting about all the pressure magazines and articles are
putting on women who have to choose between a career and having children.
she goes on about how she was a very ugly child and her baby pictures look
terrible. to illustrate this she states: i looked like a cross between
that one chick from indigo girls...<she pauses>...and that other chick from
indigo girls.
it was kind of humorous but my bias feels like saying--hey that was mean!
speaking of mean....i'm a huge bill maher fan and am devastated that his
show is being cancelled. i guess it's the price you pay for not being pc.
apparently america still needs everything to be sugar coated. people don't
like honesty when it hits so close to home so he gets canned. a shame i
say. have a good weekend everyone....greg
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gee anybody that doesn't see anything cute about amy ray or emily has
got to be missing
two eyes!
peace
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i would place the blame on the writers, not tina fey...though i really hate
the "all lesbians are ugly" assumption. arrrg.
and really, amy and emily are so cute. i'm kinda glad i didn't catch snl.
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first off, i just have to point out that there were harsh jokes made
about a few dozen other people tonight and we're not crying about them.
and secondly, tina actually *is* one of the head writers (yes kids, some
women are actually making it in the comedy biz) and that joke in the
whole about professional women being pressured into having kids was
pretty smart.
-sam (thisclose to graduating)
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> the "all lesbians are ugly" assumption. arrrg.
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i would consider that a compliment - i'm also straight and i think they are
both goddesses! :-)
peace!
eileen


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>so indigo girls got a rather unflattering mention on snl this evening. on
>weekend update, tina fey was talking about how she wasn't a cute kid. she
>said, "i looked like a cross between that chick from the indigo girls...and
>that other chick from the indigo girls." harsh. i'm straight, and i still
>think amy's a goddess.
>
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p.s. - who is tina fey anyway? i live in uk...

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>i would consider that a compliment - i'm also straight and i think they are
>both goddesses! :-)
>peace!
>eileen
>
>
>
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>>date: sun, 19 may 2002 00:28:41 -0400
>>
>>so indigo girls got a rather unflattering mention on snl this evening. on
>>weekend update, tina fey was talking about how she wasn't a cute kid. she
>>said, "i looked like a cross between that chick from the indigo
>>girls...and
>>that other chick from the indigo girls." harsh. i'm straight, and i still
>>think amy's a goddess.
>>
>>laura
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date: sun, 19 may 2002 09:56:46 -0400
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i'm sure this has already been posted, but while watching snl's
weekend update, tina fey mentioned some anecdote (i was half asleep
so i don't remember the context) and was describing someone that was
apparently so ugly that they "looked like a cross between that one
girl from the indigo girls, and that other girl from the indigo
girls."
it got a pretty good laugh and i thought it was a pretty good joke
considering that the majority of the population probably doesn't know
what the indigo girls look like. of course, we all know that the
gals are beee-yoooou-tiful, so let's not blow this out of proportion
and start writing angry letters to snl, puh-leeeze. ;-)
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> fwiw, i watch pi regularly, and whether i agree with any particular
> viewpoint of bill mahrer's is irrelevant. i find it to be the one forum in
> the mainstream media with consistently engaged, frank, and open discourse
> about a wide variety of social and political issues. we should all be very
> afraid that abc is pulling the plug. (it's an issue of free speech,
> really. it's sure not on account of ratings.)
>
> as for ryan's comment:
> you mean like the controversial political view of calling the guys and gals
> in uniform cowards right after 9/11?
>
> i watched the show virtually every night when it came back on the air after
> the 9/11 attacks. imo, it was by far the best thing on tv at that time.
> as for comment that got him in hot water, i actually saw it, and i don't
> believe he was wrong.
>
> he did not "call the guys and gals in uniform cowards." (actually, mahrer
> is very pro-military.) basically what he did was criticize the
> characterization of the terrorists as cowards, commenting that however
> despicable they may be, sacrificing your own life in a suicide attack is
> not cowardly. in that context, he said that what is cowardly, is bombing
> the shit out of some place from the safe distance of a warplane (or some
> such thing).
>
> ok. end of off-topic post. just hit a sore spot, as i firmly believe that
> pi is one of the most valuable pieces of public discourse, and it will be
> sorely missed.
>
> lauren

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fwiw, i watch pi regularly, and whether i agree with any particular viewpoint of bill mahrer's is irrelevant. i find it to be the one forum in the mainstream media with consistently engaged, frank, and open discourse about a wide variety of social and political issues. we should all be very afraid that abc is pulling the plug. (it's an issue of free speech, really. it's sure not on account of ratings.)

as for ryan's comment:
you mean like the controversial political view of calling the guys and gals
in uniform cowards right after 9/11?

i watched the show virtually every night when it came back on the air after the 9/11 attacks. imo, it was by far the best thing on tv at that time. as for comment that got him in hot water, i actually saw it, and i don't believe he was wrong.

he did not "call the guys and gals in uniform cowards." (actually, mahrer is very pro-military.) basically what he did was criticize the characterization of the terrorists as cowards, commenting that however despicable they may be, sacrificing your own life in a suicide attack is not cowardly. in that context, he said that what is cowardly, is bombing the shit out of some place from the safe distance of a warplane (or some such thing).

ok. end of off-topic post. just hit a sore spot, as i firmly believe that pi is one of the most valuable pieces of public discourse, and it will be sorely missed.

lauren


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date: sun, 19 may 2002 13:24:32 edt
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subject: nigc: bill maher
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> i'm a huge bill maher fan and am devastated that his
> show is being cancelled. i guess it's the price you pay for not being pc.
i am ... or at least was a fan or his... i still am... but he has compleatly
lost his edge and as far as being un-pc he has become almost as pc as dan
browkaw (sp)
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i'm a huge bill maher fan and am devastated that his
show is being cancelled. i guess it's the price you pay for not being pc.


i am ... or at least was a fan or his... i still am... but he has compleatly lost his edge and as far as being un-pc he has become almost as pc as dan browkaw (sp)

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i lost an uncle in ww2. i guess he was such a coward being up in his plane
bombing the shit out of his targets from the comfort and safety of his
cockpit, protecting your right to say he was a coward. uh huh.
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fwiw, i watch pi regularly, and whether i agree with any particular
viewpoint of bill mahrer's is irrelevant. i find it to be the one forum in
the mainstream media with consistently engaged, frank, and open discourse
about a wide variety of social and political issues. we should all be very
afraid that abc is pulling the plug. (it's an issue of free speech, really.
it's sure not on account of ratings.)
as for ryan's comment:
you mean like the controversial political view of calling the guys and
gals
in uniform cowards right after 9/11?
i watched the show virtually every night when it came back on the air
after the 9/11 attacks. imo, it was by far the best thing on tv at that
time. as for comment that got him in hot water, i actually saw it, and i
don't believe he was wrong.
he did not "call the guys and gals in uniform cowards." (actually,
mahrer is very pro-military.) basically what he did was criticize the
characterization of the terrorists as cowards, commenting that however
despicable they may be, sacrificing your own life in a suicide attack is not
cowardly. in that context, he said that what is cowardly, is bombing the
shit out of some place from the safe distance of a warplane (or some such
thing).
ok. end of off-topic post. just hit a sore spot, as i firmly believe
that pi is one of the most valuable pieces of public discourse, and it will
be sorely missed.
lauren


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<blockquote=20 0px?="20" margin-right: 2px="solid;" border-left: 5px; margin-left: type='3d"cite"' #0000fffwiw, i watch pi regularly, and whether i agree with any = particular viewpoint of bill mahrer's is irrelevant. i find it = to be=20 the one forum in the mainstream media with consistently engaged, = frank, and=20 open discourse about a wide variety of social and political issues. = we=20 should all be very afraid that abc is pulling the plug. (it's = an issue=20 of free speech, really. it's sure not on account of ratings.)=20

as for ryan's comment:
you mean like the controversial = political=20 view of calling the guys and gals
in uniform cowards right after = 9/11?=20

i watched the show virtually every night when it came back = on the=20 air after the 9/11 attacks. imo, it was by far the best thing = on tv at=20 that time. as for comment that got him in hot water, i = actually saw=20 it, and i don't believe he was wrong.

he did = not "call=20 the guys and gals in uniform cowards." (actually, mahrer is = very=20 pro-military.) basically what he did was criticize the=20 characterization of the terrorists as cowards, commenting that = however=20 despicable they may be, sacrificing your own life in a suicide = attack is not=20 cowardly. in that context, he said that what is cowardly, is = bombing=20 the shit out of some place from the safe distance of a warplane (or = some=20 such thing).

ok. end of off-topic post.=20 just hit a sore spot, as i firmly believe that pi is one of = the most=20 valuable pieces of public discourse, and it will be sorely missed.=20

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date: sun, 19 may 2002 18:22:08 -0700
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hkf's,
subject says it all, but i have tix's for the saturday
night show but none for the friday show. even though
it's still not close to being sold out, i'm just
curious if anyone has extra good seats that they might
not need for that friday show. thanks for your time!
-mkc
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the writers were probaly playing off on the "lesbians
are just womyn who are too ugly to need a man"
stereotype, and the indigo girls are probaly the only
fairly well known duo out there who are out.

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on 5/19/02 10:20 pm, torrie bryant at broadway_babe_42@yahoo.com wrote:
> the writers were probaly playing off on the "lesbians
> are just womyn who are too ugly to need a man"
> stereotype, and the indigo girls are probaly the only
> fairly well known duo out there who are out.
to unintentionally tie in the two recent threads here, i must go out on a
limb and be un-pc. i don't really see the snl writers as picking on
lesbians at all. i see them picking on the people who don't fit mainstream
america's view of what is attractive. let's be honest here. amy and emily,
while adorable in my mind, are hardly mainstream america's idea of physical
beauty. i don't see them gracing the covers of maxim or cosmo anytime soon.
most of america has one idea of physical beauty and ig don't fit that. so i
think the writers picked on this. a lesbian dis tie in? possibly, but more
imo, a dis on folks who aren't what most of the public considers cute (how's
that for avoiding the word ugly). personally, i could think of many other
references for ugly folk--hello, ozzy osbourne should be plenty...oh i'm
sorry he's exempt because apparently he is now the spokesman for family
values. bring back bill maher (who's also fairly ugly)!! i need a cynic on
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that's too bad. i really like tina - i always thought she was cute!
and she was hired originally for her brains, not her looks - she was
hired as a writer, then promoted to head writer, the first head writer
that snl has ever had in its twenty-some odd year history. then
when "weekend update" was restructured they put her on the show,
going back to the original style with two anchors like they had in the
70's.
at 01:50 am 5/19/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>i would place the blame on the writers, not tina fey...though i really hate
>the "all lesbians are ugly" assumption. arrrg.
unfortunately, given that she's the head writer...she probably did write
it, or at least approved it.
>and really, amy and emily are so cute. i'm kinda glad i didn't catch snl.
totally. anyone who can't see that has a very narrow idea of what
beautiful is. emily is adorable and amy is sexy - i find them both
very attractive.
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hey all - please join me in saying happy birthday to the following
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may 22
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26 may (1982)
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have a wonderful time celebrating!
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at 10:21 pm 5/19/2002 -0700, i wrote:
>that's too bad. i really like tina - i always thought she was cute!
>and she was hired originally for her brains, not her looks - she was
>hired as a writer, then promoted to head writer, the first head writer
>that snl has ever had in its twenty-some odd year history. then
>when "weekend update" was restructured they put her on the show,
>going back to the original style with two anchors like they had in the
>70's.
sorry, that should read the first *woman* head writer the show has
ever had. blah.
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i have some extra tickets for upcoming ig shows that i am looking to sell.
if you are interested in any of the tickets below, please email me and let
me know:
may 31, 2002 -- mann center, philadelphia,pa -- center orchestra row c (7th
row), seat 112.
1 ticket - $56 (which is what i paid) & any applicable shipping and
handling, unless you wish to meet before the show to get your ticket. if
you are looking for 2 tickets, seated together in the same section, let me
know and maybe i can work something out.
june 4, 2002 -- radio city music hall, ny, ny --
1 ticket - orchestra 6, row a, seat 906 - $52.80 & any applicable shipping
and handling, unless you wish to meet before the show to get your ticket.
june 4, 2002 -- radio city music hall, ny, ny --
1 ticket - orchestra 4 (center section), row tt, seat 413 - $52.80 & any
applicable shipping and handling, unless you wish to meet before the show to
get your ticket.

-victoria
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hi folks,
i've got an extra ticket. yep, only one. a friend of mine can no longer
attend. :-(
so, hopefully, someone would like to upgrade their seat. i'm located in
rhode island and am traveling down for the show, so we should probably move
quickly on this to ensure you get your ticket in time. i paid (with fees)
$36.58 and will offer them for no more than the same or best offer. let me
know if you're interested...
<mailto:jennylgl@cox.net>
as far as i can tell, this is in the front center orchestra 12th row... i'm
not sure what "z4" is all about, but i clipped this from my receipt.
indigo girls at wolf trap filene center on thursday, 5/30/02 at 8:00pm
type: adult section: z4 row: l seat: 59 seat total: $32.00
<http://www.wolftrap.org./performances/fcchart.html>
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date: mon, 20 may 2002 23:27:12 edt
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from: "<sarah t. rosenblum>" <rainnriver@aol.com>
subject: nigc_website tech questiong and ig on snl
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first of all, i love tina fey so that's a little sad but i will get over it.
more importantly:
help
i need to set up a website for the play the lesbian/feminist play i'm
staging, and while i have a web designer who's taking care of it, he's not a
pro, so he has never had to put up a stand alone site, meaning, he's always
been able to find soemone to host him. i know there are ways to set up free
websites but i really have no clue how to start. could someone please give me
some information, in really simple language cause i am just not a techno-geek
at all (and i mean techno-geek w/ awe not derision)
i've ehard stuff about deosites but then i heard you can't get a free
business site on geocites and since i'm advertising a play, i think that
would be a business thing, anyway, list people, don't fail me know. i have
about a week to get this set up.
information, anyone?
thanks!
--sarah
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date: tue, 21 may 2002 12:12:13 edt
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subject: tickets for sale: wolf trap, 5/30 - row d front orchestra
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if anyone needs good tickets for the thursday night, 5/30/02 wolf trap show,
i have two extra tickets. i can either send them, or meet you outside the
venue.
location: front orchestra
row: d
seats: 23 & 24 (i'm not 100% sure of the exact number, but they are center,
and i can verify seat numbers tonight)
cost: $38.25 each equals $76.50
thanks!
=)
lisa
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date: tue, 21 may 2002 12:53:46 -0400
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from: dee yellowlees <tomboy1969@excite.com>
subject: tickets for sale at chastain tables (atlanta)
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we have 2 extra tickets for friday nights show. we were the first group to get tickets and have terrance tables on emily side.
the total cost is $96. for the pair, which includes all service fees...etc.
e-mail me off list if you are interested and i will give you exact location.
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<table cellpadding=10 cellspacing=0 border=0 width=100% bgcolor=white><tr height=200><td width=100%><font size=2 color=black><br>we have 2 extra tickets for friday nights show. we were the first group to get tickets and have terrance tables on emily side. <br />
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the total cost is $96. for the pair, which includes all service fees...etc. <br />
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date: tue, 21 may 2002 14:45:04 -0400
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subject: re: tickets for sale at chastain tables (atlanta)
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they have already been taken....
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<table cellpadding=10 cellspacing=0 border=0 width=100% bgcolor=white><tr height=200><td width=100%><font size=2 color=black><br><br>they have already been taken.... <br />
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date: tue, 21 may 2002 15:46:22 -0400
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subject: ig on snl and p. incorrect
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to take greg flamer's idea one step further, i need to tie these two threads together.
i have not watched snl in years because i just don't laugh at it anymore. i may be dating myself, but i remember the original snl, the funny one! the modern one just does not hold up imho.
that said, the joke as repeated here "dissing" amy and emily made me laugh. if a joke makes me laugh it did it's job, whether the joke is mean, racist, sexist, homophobic or whatever. i credit a&e with unintentionally helping me do something i have not done in years; find some humor on snl! by the way, someone please tell me if the host winona ryder wore a "free winona" t-shirt, like she did on that mag cover. thanks!
about the pi show being cancelled, i find it slightly absurd that someone who was hired to be politically incorrect was fired for being politically incorrect. not a huge fan of the show but it is terrible how he gets dumped and a talk show that contributed to a homophobic murder (jenny jones) goes on and on.
snl at its best was politically incorrect and that's what was good about it. it could be pi and still be fresh and funny. i miss that. tv needs someone to question things once in a while, imho.
that sound you hear is me stepping off of my soapbox!
-scott
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date: tue, 21 may 2002 12:55:38 -0700
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from: ryan blackhawke <ryan@hawke2.com>
subject: utah ticket
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it is at will call and they will change the name to whomever wants the
ticket. i just need to send you the confirmation receipt and you will need
your id. yes folks, this means i will be unable to go to utah for that show.
i am asking what i paid which is $39. paypal payment is preferred.
thanks,
ryan
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date: tue, 21 may 2002 21:21:25 -0600
reply-to: "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
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from: "amy m." <indigrrl@selway.umt.edu>
subject: nigc: e-mail question
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hi all,
i'm in the process of changing e-mail addresses and am trying to figure
out how to configure hotmail with outlook 97. does anyone have any helpful
hints?
thanks,
amy m.
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