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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 14:17:07 +1000
reply-to: novogal _ <novogal@hotmail.com>
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g'day,
i have my own copy via the usa but i am curious to know if "become you" has
been released in australia. a quick search of some australian online music
stores indicates that it hasn't, which is hard to believe!
anyone have any ideas why? sherlyn? anyone other aussies here?
surely this would jeopardise any future touring here by the ig, and they
still owe us a tour from a few years ago (amy was ill, tour was cancelled
around the time of cons).
very strange situation...
cheers,
athena

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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 14:47:03 +1000
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on mon, 1 jul 2002, novogal _ wrote:
> i have my own copy via the usa but i am curious to know if "become you" has
> been released in australia. a quick search of some australian online music
> stores indicates that it hasn't, which is hard to believe!
i don't know the answer to your question because i bought mine from the uss
also. but just wanted anyone who does know to write to the list because
i'd love to know.
> surely this would jeopardise any future touring here by the ig,
good point. maybe we should be petitioning the relevant people for ig
tours. wasn't there talk of them planning to be here in early 2002?
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 00:58:15 -0700
reply-to: jeremy james <jj2758@albany.edu>
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first of all, anybody with a decent internet connection who enjoys live
music should check out furthur at www.furthurnet.com <http://www.furthurnet.com/>. furthur is a
really cool (read legal) file sharing program a la napster but there is
a list of bands you can choose from to search for. the only content
allowed on furthur is live or otherwise non-commercially available stuff
from bands who have said (in writing) that they don't mind fans trading
bootlegs of their shows. thanks to ig posting their taping policy, i
got the folks at furthur to add them to their list. i'm going to be
posting all of the shows i have, and i'll try to stay online as much as
possible so folks can download them. but it would be really cool if
other ig fans out there with lots of bootlegs in mp3 (or shn) format
could get on as well. it's really a great place to trade.
jer
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 01:49:06 -0400
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hi folks,
>i have my own copy via the usa but i am curious to know if "become you" has
>been released in australia. a quick search of some australian online music
>stores indicates that it hasn't, which is hard to believe!
"become you" hasn't been released here, unfortunately. i don't know why. sony music australia doesn't even have it listed on their site, which isn't a good thing...
if there's a borders near you you can probably get the imported version there though. and i have a vague feeling that hmv may also have it...
-sherlyn

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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 08:47:44 -0400
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 09:01:51 -0500
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thanks for your review anne!
is it just me or do we seem to be missing lots of shows here? has everyone
switched permanently over to the bbs? i personally cannot keep up with that
right now. i guess i have no other choice though.
thanks to those who still post reviews and other wonderful things on this
list.
-mi rinda
ps. only 4 days until i get to see ig again
pps. only 11 days until my first baby is due!!! i am so excited!
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 10:23:49 -0400
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<<is it just me or do we seem to be missing lots of shows here? has
everyone switched permanently over to the bbs? i personally cannot keep up
with that right now. i guess i have no other choice though.>>
i've been a member of this list on and off for eight or nine years. holy
crap. and mirinda said waht i've been thinking for a while:
this list is dying, kids.
there seem to be a lot of alternate indigo girls places to hang out that are
easier to find than this list - most people go there. i really don't know
how new people find out about this list anymore.
seriously, there's much more traffic on the message boards at
www.indigogirls.com <http://www.indigogirls.com/>
www.indigofans.com <http://www.indigofans.com/>
even though there's an awful signal to noise ratio.
there's a few other indigo girl-related email lists as well.
so either we adapt or continue dying. either we spread the word and make
this list the indigo girls list-leader or people will continue to go
elsewhere because that's the only place they find.
here's my unsolicited and unprovoked suggestion. we should affiliate
ourselves with the indigofans.com website. it's a great site with many good
features that we just don't have on this list. if they already have an email
list, we could merge the members. i know jen lucerno does a great and
thankless task administrating this list and i'm sure could continue to do
so.
what'ya all think?
neil
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 10:49:19 edt
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subject: attn: person who e-mailed me about buying a 9 july seattle ticket
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hi,
someone here e-mailed me about buying my 9 july seattle ticket. i e-mailed
you back and have not heard back (i don't remember your name). i need to
know asap if you are still interested in buying it. if not, i need to find
another buyer quickly. please get back to me. if i do not hear back from
you tonight i will assume that you are no longer interested.
thanks.
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hi,

someone here e-mailed me about buying my 9 july seattle ticket. i e-mailed you back and have not heard back (i don't remember your name). i need to know asap if you are still interested in buying it. if not, i need to find another buyer quickly. please get back to me. if i do not hear back from you tonight i will assume that you are no longer interested.

thanks.

:-) karen

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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 12:22:20 -0400
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anyone that wants to go to st. louis tomorrow night i have 4th row (behind the pit....which is really row 10) seats available... they were $84.00 with service charge.... i will sell them for $75.00 (without service charge) or best offer... you can e-mail me thru 5 today or call me at 404-819-8705 or 678-773-0973 d:)
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 13:40:29 -0500
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this is from another mailing list i am on. one person made a comment about
how he "knew" there weren't many gay guys at a concert. then it kind of
went on from there. i thought the first paragraph was kind of funny. of
course, it was all lighthearted so no one take offense.
:)
mi rinda

<<and how do you claim to know there weren't many gay people?>>
well, they'll have been holding hands with other guys (or girls). the guys
will have been wearing cher t-shirts and glitter on their faces. they would
also probably have been wearing loafers and some fetching cargo pants. the
girls will have been wearing birkenstock sandals and of course dungarees.
maybe with a melissa etherige or indigo girls shirt underneath.
seriously, though, you're not going to be able to spot most gay people in a
crowd. i think the fact that they were at a jewel concert would have showed
that they weren't the stereotypical gay guys anyway - wouldn't they be more
comfortable at an enrique or ru paul show? and the amount of stereotypical
butch lesbians is probably easily outnumbered by 'normal' looking chicks who
just have a different preference.
the whole thing is silly and i totally agree that the guy who sent a post
saying 'i'm straight' to the list was pretty pathetic. also he said he liked
linkin park which totally proved that he is not straight. what kind of
straight guy listens to boy bands like linkin park? :p
cheers,
tom
ps - please take paragraphs one and three with a pinch of salt. a bit of
light humour is the way i like to deal with these brilliantly volatile
situations. thankyou.
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 17:42:02 -0500
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subject: state of the list
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neil? you took the words right out of my mouth...before the hiatus, it
seemed that the girls could do a show anywhere,and i would read about it
the next day....no matter how far away they were...not so anymore. i
used to have to clean out my email every four days, we got so many
posts! now? it's pretty slow compared to two years ago.
i don't think hurt us to contact www.indigofans.com <http://www.indigofans.com/> and ask if we
could hook up with them and see what happens!
i don't know if this list is already mentioned on all the search engines
too like yahoo, infoseek, google,lycos. i don't think it would hurt if
we could get some kind of public listing.
peace
barb
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 18:20:25 -0500
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thanks to dee, i'd like to offer this show to the list.

"i knew i turned into an adult when i stopped wanting clothes for
christmas and i wanted books instead. now my mom's like, don't you
want anything else besided books?" - es
the indigo girls
american library association scholarship bash,
hyatt regency, atlanta ga
6/16/02
01. get out the map (small drop out 5 seconds in)
02. three hits
03. hammer and a nail
04. become you
05. your deliverance
06. devotion
07. power of two
08. gone again
09. virginia woolf
10. moment of forgiveness
11. closer to fine
12. yield
13. deconstruction
14. chickenman/bitterroot
15. galileo
16. least complicated
available to the 1st 10 to reply to me privately. please get the discs
out by the end of next week. if you are unfamiliar wuth blanks &
postage go to <http://www.ryco.org/mcnichol/> for details.
diane
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 19:36:09 edt
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barb wrote,
> i don't know if this list is already mentioned on all the search engines
> too like yahoo, infoseek, google,lycos. i don't think it would hurt if
> we could get some kind of public listing.
well, there was another ig list via yahoo! i was on, but it turned into a dumping ground for porn stuff. i left that one a while ago.
perhaps folks are just in a bit of a slump/or have totally busy lives. i know i'm in the latter, and also haven't gotten to shows in a dog's age, so i feel somewhat out of the loop on things. i guess lists are like social lives, sometimes they're brimming with activity and sometimes they're superquiet.
deb
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 19:25:04 -0500
reply-to: dweiden@ix.netcom.com
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subject: re: b&p 6/16/02 - offer closed
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offer closed.
diane weidenkopf wrote:
> thanks to dee, i'd like to offer this show to the list.
>
> "i knew i turned into an adult when i stopped wanting clothes for
> christmas and i wanted books instead. now my mom's like, don't you
> want anything else besided books?" - es
>
> the indigo girls
> american library association scholarship bash,
> hyatt regency, atlanta ga
> 6/16/02
>
> 01. get out the map (small drop out 5 seconds in)
> 02. three hits
> 03. hammer and a nail
> 04. become you
> 05. your deliverance
> 06. devotion
> 07. power of two
> 08. gone again
> 09. virginia woolf
> 10. moment of forgiveness
> 11. closer to fine
> 12. yield
> 13. deconstruction
> 14. chickenman/bitterroot
> 15. galileo
> 16. least complicated
>
> available to the 1st 10 to reply to me privately. please get the discs
> out by the end of next week. if you are unfamiliar wuth blanks &
> postage go to <http://www.ryco.org/mcnichol/> for details.
>
> diane
>
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 20:03:27 -0500
reply-to: wilfred pennington <unclewilfred@charter.net>
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hello all,
first on an sigc note, one of the hymns at our church service on
saturday was "this is my song," better known to ig fans as "finlandia." it
was lovely to sing it with a large group, though not as beautiful as the ig
version : )
secondly, on the state of the list, i can't disagree that participation
seems to have dropped off. i joined this list in october of 99 as cons was
released and they toured supporting that album. i have thoroughly enjoyed
this group and its conversations, debates and generosity in sharing boots
and information. as an ig fan since 89, i also appreciate this group for its
slightly more mature approach to ig fanaticism. i just don't see the point
to a bbs with threads titled i love amy and other rather invasive
nonsense...i don't have the time or inclination to go on for days about the
pants/skirt ms. ray has been wearing on recent tour dates. tack a fashion
report onto the rest of your show overview, and that's fine for me, thanks.
since i joined this group, i've had my first child and my work life has
become more hectic along with my personal time. i'm still able to carve out
time to read my email daily and would miss this list if it disbanded, but i
don't participate in list discussions as often as i used to, so i'm afraid
i'm more a part of the problem than the solution right now. i've visited
other ig boards and none of them seems to appeal to me as much as this list
did when it was more active. but unless it picks up again, i agree people
seem to be sharing more information/excitement in other places. you just
have to sift through more silliness to get to it.
take it easy,
michelle
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coming out of lurkdom to throw in my 2 cents:
i have been on this list off and on for the past 10 years also. i have =
seen so many trends on here. lots of email and lots of flame wars etc. =
and time with less email like now.=20
i am just curious: how do you see this list as *dying*?=20
does quantity of emails mean how successful a list is?=20
maybe if several see the list as dying a possible solution is to post to =
the list! start a thread, etc. i know i am severly guility of just =
reading emails instead of sharing my thoughts.=20
i am going to try and do that more. post to the list. so i challege all =
you lurkers ( like me) to post something about the girls!
maybe this will help the list. i love this list and look forward to =
reading something about the girls everyday. i don't like bbs or =
newsgroups so this is my format of choice.=20
keep us alive! somebody start a thread and lets see where it goes. my =
thread starter: if someone asked you why you like indigo girls music so =
much, what would you say?
i like the indigo girls' music because of their unique and insightful =
look into relationships and social activism of the day. i enjoy the =
harmonies and the melodies of each song. they have such a wonderful =
selection of songs that both inspire me, relax me, make me get up and =
dance, or make me think more about issues such as death, the ending and =
begining of relationships, and social activism. they have always strived =
to stay true to themselves and their craft and not *sell* out to the =
commercialism so prevalant in today's music industry. currently, become =
you is always playing in my cd player.=20
have a good one,
paula

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coming out of lurkdom to throw in my 2=20 cents:
i have been on this list off and on for = the past 10=20 years also. i have seen so many trends on here. lots of email and lots = of flame=20 wars etc. and time with less email like now.
i am just curious: how do you see this = list as=20 *dying*?
does quantity of emails mean how = successful a list=20 is?
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i am going to try and do that more. = post to the=20 list. so i challege all you lurkers ( like me) to post something about = the=20 girls!
maybe this will help the list. i love = this list and=20 look forward to reading something about the girls everyday. i don't like = bbs or=20 newsgroups so this is my format of choice.
keep us alive! somebody start a thread = and lets see=20 where it goes. my thread starter: if someone asked you why you = like indigo=20 girls music so much, what would you say?
i like the indigo girls' music because = of their=20 unique and insightful look into relationships and social activism = of the=20 day. i enjoy the harmonies and the melodies of each song. they = have such a=20 wonderful selection of songs that both inspire me, relax me, make me get = up and=20 dance, or make me think more about issues such as death, = the=20 ending and begining of relationships, and social activism. they = have always=20 strived to stay true to themselves and their craft and not *sell* out to = the=20 commercialism so prevalant in today's music industry. currently, become = you is=20 always playing in my cd player.
have a good one,
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>>paula wrote: my thread starter: if someone asked
>>you why you like indigo girls music so much, what
>>would you say?
i listen to a bunch of different types of music from
pop to rock to heavy metal and alternative. indigo
girls are my hands down favorite though. i think amy &
emily are both women that can be looked up to for their
honor & integrity, and i love their music. for just
about any mood i'm in there's an indigo girls song that
matches it. while i think their music appeals to a
broad audience, i can really relate to some of the
messages they have in their music about being gay. when
you are in a minority that doesn't get a lot of
acknowledgement for your life and your feelings, it's a
nice bonus. i swap out the cds in my changer all the
time but there's always at least one indigo girls cd in
there. i've also met some of the greatest friends a
person could ever have at indigo girls shows.
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 20:40:57 -0500
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thanks to dee, i'd like to offer this show to the list.>>
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offer closed.>>

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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 22:05:59 -0400
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<p><font face=3d"monospace,courier">>i also appreciate this group for it=
s slightly more mature approach to ig fanaticism. i >just don't see the =
point to a bbs with threads titled i love amy and other rather >invasive=
nonsense...i don't have the time or inclination to go on for days about th=
e<br>>pants/skirt ms. ray has been wearing on recent tour dates. </font>=
</p><p><font face=3d"monospace,courier">i like this list also - in spite of=
it's inactivity.  inactivity is better than a bunch of posts from sim=
pering love struck fans.  i don't ever mind the off topic stuff even, =
as long as it's intelligent, interesting, eloquent and witty, informative a=
nd/or humorous :)</font></p><p><font face=3d"monospace,courier">i hope the =
list isn't disolved because of inactivity or "lack of interest" -=
i have never been to an ig bulletin board or ig chat room or whatever. &nb=
sp;i don't even know what else ig is out there, nor do i have the time, des=
ire, or inclination to find out.  this list suits my needs just fine a=
nd it is very convenient for me!  since i do a lot of work correspondi=
ng via email, i can check my mail at any time during the work day and if my=
boss catches me sending and reading mail, i don't get reprimanded for goof=
ing off when i should be doing something productive - she just thinks i am =
hard at work when i am goofing off reading ig mail!  i hope it is not =
going to change formats.</font></p><p><font face=3d"monospace,courier">elai=
ne</font></p><p> </p><p></p>=
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 21:05:26 -0500
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oh you digesters... :-)
ok this is open to jude and the first 4 digest people who email.
you just have to prove to me you are on the digest version somehow.
diane
jude hunter wrote:
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> date: mon, 1 jul 2002 18:20:25 -0500
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> subject: b&p 6/16/02
>
> thanks to dee, i'd like to offer this show to the list.>> and
> <<
> date: mon, 1 jul 2002 19:25:04 -0500
> from: diane weidenkopf <dweiden@ix.netcom.com>
> subject: re: b&p 6/16/02 - offer closed
>
> offer closed.>> i hope true salvation and financial security are not
> offered to me via the digest version of life since i suppose i would
> miss out on that too! jude :)
>
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ok this is open to jude and the first 4 digest people who email.
you just have to prove to me you are on the digest version somehow.
diane
jude hunter wrote:
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subject: b&p 6/16/02
thanks to dee, i'd like to offer this show to the list.>> and
<<
date: mon, 1 jul 2002 19:25:04 -0500
from: diane weidenkopf <dweiden@ix.netcom.com>
subject: re: b&p 6/16/02 - offer closed
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 22:29:06 -0400
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hi folks,
just want to add my words to this thread as well (as a list member and not
the owner...<g>)
i've been on the list (as a member, then owner) for close to 8 years
now...and i wouldn't trade it for all the other stuff on the www for
anything!
we should be proud that in the past the girls have specifically mentioned
this list (in it's various incarnations) is a fine representation of ig fans
than other mediums that do not watch what is being said (my paraphrase).
kudos to us!
and like so many other listees, i too have many more things going on in my
life, and particularly during the summer, i find the lessened volume an okay
thing.
to respond to diane's thread starter...
> if someone asked you why you like indigo girls music so much, what would
you say?
over the past 13 years or so, the girls have presented an amazing collection
of interesting, thought provoking, and often applicable interpretations of
love, life, and just being a human being in today's crazy world.
jen
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 21:37:09 -0500
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i have to agree with neil.....the list has definitely slowed down and
may very well be dying. i don't really believe it's just going through
a "slow phase." i've also been on the list for 8+ years and have seen
true slow phases. the slow phases generally happen when the girls are
between tours or cd's.....i've never before seen the list fail to report
on every show during a tour - we used to get several reviews of a single
show. this is exactly the time when the list mail usually overwhelms my
mailbox.
i also agree with neil that we should look at creative ways to save the
list. sorry, paula, but i don't think increasing the "amount" of
posting will necessarily solve the problem (but it would obviously make
the list better than it is now). however, like the reference neil made
earlier re: noise to sound ratio, having that ratio off balance can make
for irritating reading and i don't like the bbs for that very reason.
on this list the info tends to much more concise, which is a good
thing. we've been known to go off on tangents, but usually this is a
fantastic source for true-blue indigo girls information.
like some others, i'm guilty of being more of a lurker than a poster.
so, i'm ready to do my part to make this list better. i thought that
since i went to the indianapolis concert, i'd add my $.02 worth to
anne's post, although she did a great job of expressing the flavor of
the evening.
the show was simply "the best." i've been to 20 +/- indigo girls
concerts over the years and this was the tops as far as i'm concerned.
and believe me, i feel that all ig concerts are amazing. the energy by
everyone on friday night was unbelievable and the songs seemed to fit
perfectly into the rhythm of the audience, building momentum throughout
the night. the whole crowd seemed to know the words....i was so proud
of our indianapolis audience and happy to have so many ig fans in my
hometown (assuming the majority were from here). i was walking on air
for the rest of the evening after the show.
amy was breathtaking in her new outfit (black tank top and red plaid
bondage pants) and cute cute cute pigtails. emily was fine, too, but i
can't remember what she was wearing (sorry). they were grinning
(especially amy) the entire night, seeming genuinely pleased with the
reception of the indy audience. the set list has already been posted
so i won't even bother trying to reconstruct it (whew!). i know i was
thrilled when they did three encore songs! most (if not all) of the
setlists i've seen show show 2 encore songs. at the end amy mentioned
they were over curfew, but thought they could get away with playing a
little longer (not a direct quote but a broad paraphrase).
oh, and i ran into joey krimple from the list (hi joey). that was a fun
surprise! he said a girl sitting next to him in the balcony was taping
the show. hopefully she's on the list and will share with us all
later. i don't do too many boots, but this one will be a must-have.
take care all,
maggie
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oops....i meant to reply to paula's thread in my previous post and
forgot.
why i like indigo girls music: nothing too eloquent to say, really.
their music moves and touches me in a way that no other music is able to
do. i'm definitely more of an amy fan, and her voice with its deep
richness is like no other, in my opinion. and the harmonies. what can
you say about two voices that blend together in such perfect,
er....well, harmony? they're simply unique and i love them. the other
stuff they do is just icing on the cake.
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why i like indigo girls music: nothing too eloquent to say, really. their music moves and touches me in a way that no other music is able to do. i'm definitely more of an amy fan, and her voice with its deep richness is like no other, in my opinion. and the harmonies. what can you say about two voices that blend together in such perfect, er....well, harmony? they're simply unique and i love them. the other stuff they do is just icing on the cake.
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 22:31:29 -0500
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paula wrote: my thread starter: if someone asked
you why you like indigo girls music so much, what
would you say?
the indigo girls have been a part of my life since 1989, when i was 18
years old, and their music still moves me and their activism inspires me and
that's why i adore them so much. they are the real deal and i never tire of
hearing their songs...the old stuff brings back memories (good and bad) and
the new stuff is always exciting.
and at this time tomorrow night i'll be at the fox theatre in st. louis,
taking in their live show, which is still one of the best tickets around,
imho.
have a good night,
michelle
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 00:00:37 edt
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hey -
i've still got one ticket for each seattle show that i need to get rid of if
anyone wants them! i hate for them to go to waste :(
lisa
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hey -
i've still got one ticket for each seattle show that i need to get rid of if anyone wants them! i hate for them to go to waste :(
lisa
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date: mon, 1 jul 2002 21:58:08 -0700
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i agree, and to add (and therefore avoid the crime of the "me too" post) i
would also say that i wouldn't want to be associated with the bbs group
because they are consistently rude, drunk, and generally a downer at
concerts. they have ruined in one way or another most of the ig concerts
i've been to in the past 2 years (and that's several concerts). i say even
if we are a dwindling group (which i kinda doubt), at least we are a
pretty nice one.
-sam (out of college and back to having no email of her own)
> >i also appreciate this group for its slightly more mature approach to ig
> fanaticism. i >just don't see the point to a bbs with threads titled i
> love amy and other rather >invasive nonsense...i don't have the time or
> inclination to go on for days about the
> >pants/skirt ms. ray has been wearing on recent tour dates.
>
> i like this list also - in spite of it's inactivity. inactivity is
> better than a bunch of posts from simpering love struck fans. i don't
> ever mind the off topic stuff even, as long as it's intelligent,
> interesting, eloquent and witty, informative and/or humorous :)
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 01:00:00 edt
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from: susannah bell <innersunset@aol.com>
subject: state of the list et al
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in a message dated 7/1/2002 8:27:04 pm mountain daylight time,
jlucero@mail.monmouth.com writes:

> we should be proud that in the past the girls have specifically mentioned
> this list (in it's various incarnations) is a fine representation of ig
> fans
> than other mediums that do not watch what is being said (my paraphrase).
> kudos to us!
>
thanks for saying this, jen. i think this is the most important reason why i
don't really even "wander" around on other ig lists. i think, for the most
part, fans on this list are respectful and grown-up and not quite as
blatantly objectifying than other places i've seen.
why do i love their music? because it is more personal to me than any other
music. from the first time i ever saw them back in the eighties in atlanta
to when i came out in 1989 and literally wore out a tape of the second record
in my car and every record after that - each one has a flavor of its own and
lifts me up and out of the present taking me back to vivid and distinct
memories i wouldn't be able to call up otherwise. some of these memories are
yucky and some are beautiful but they'll always be there and they have a
lyrically and musically perfect soundtrack. it's poetic and lilting and
grinding and punky and twangy and emotional and fun and i will never stop
loving them no matter how "passe" some people on the daemon bbs say they
think they are. did i happen to mention that one of their songs got me the
best job i ever had?
counting down the days in berkeley,
susannah
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in a message dated 7/1/2002 8:27:04 pm mountain daylight time, jlucero@mail.monmouth.com writes:

we should be proud that in the past the girls have specifically mentioned
this list (in it's various incarnations) is a fine representation of ig fans
than other mediums that do not watch what is being said (my paraphrase).
kudos to us!

thanks for saying this, jen. i think this is the most important reason why i don't really even "wander" around on other ig lists. i think, for the most part, fans on this list are respectful and grown-up and not quite as blatantly objectifying than other places i've seen.

why do i love their music? because it is more personal to me than any other music. from the first time i ever saw them back in the eighties in atlanta to when i came out in 1989 and literally wore out a tape of the second record in my car and every record after that - each one has a flavor of its own and lifts me up and out of the present taking me back to vivid and distinct memories i wouldn't be able to call up otherwise. some of these memories are yucky and some are beautiful but they'll always be there and they have a lyrically and musically perfect soundtrack. it's poetic and lilting and grinding and punky and twangy and emotional and fun and i will never stop loving them no matter how "passe" some people on the daemon bbs say they think they are. did i happen to mention that one of their songs got me the best job i ever had?

counting down the days in berkeley,

susannah
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 01:02:08 -0400
reply-to: lisalisaa <lisalisaa@earthlink.net>
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first a question: anyone out there hear anything about an ig swing down here
into f-l-a? i have had no luck this summer in timing various travels to
various parts of the country with an ig show. when ive been on the east cost
theyve been out west and visa versa. im dying for a show!
here's my thread contribution: do any ig songs factor into any superstition
or ritual you have. for instance, i always listen to closer to fine as the
airplane im a passenger on is either taking off or landing. i dont recall
how it started but it is now a must for this white-knuckled frequent flyer.
(and yes, i routinely flout the turn off your cd player rules on takeoffs
and landings, tho i do keep the volume low enough to be able to hear any
emergency announcements.)
as for the list: ive been a poster sometimes and a lurker forever, tho i
dont check in everyday. ive also tapped you guys for questions many times
when ive written ig stories for sonicnet or mtv.
id hate to see this list die. but it does seem slow for a time when there is
a cd out and a tour going on.
anyway, here's why i like ig music: it makes me feel good.
when im in a down mood it picks me up. when im in a good mood it makes me
feel even better.
my holy trinity of music (and i am a music addict with an enormous eclectic
collection and i will listen to just about anyone) but my trinity is ig,
neil young and bruce springsteen, in no particular order. and actually, i
should make it a holy quartet and include rem.
for me, the thing about all four has always been incredibly insightful
lyrics coupled with an artistic integrity that is unfortunately uncommon
these days.
i first started listening to ig around 1990, when a male heterosexual
cigar-smoking former boxer from the bronx turned me on to closer to fine and
then the entire ig self-titled cassette during a long car ride from chicago
to columbia mo. where we were attending the graduate journalism school.
i was hooked instantly and made him play the tape about 9 times til he
called a halt!
these days i have every album and lots of live stuff off napster stored as
mp3s on a single cd. (same goes for neil young, rem and bruce -- tho he
takes up two cds!)
i travel a lot and have a walkman and cd player in my car that play mp3s. on
a recent driving trip from fla to nj, i listened to the entire indigo
collection one after the other for hours.
not only does the old stuff hold up, but the evolution in the music has been
astounding. become you contains some of their strongest songwriting. they
have grown and matured as artists and managed to stay relevant for almost 14
years of recording with very little support from mainstream media or radio.
and it doesnt seem theyve ever betrayed their artistic integrity.
my world, i believe, is a little happier place thanks to the music of the
indigo girls. i hope they record a little while longer at least, tho i
sometimes fear things might be winding down, at least for emily.
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 00:21:39 -0500
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>i have been on this list off and on for the past 10 years also. i have seen so
many trends on here. lots of email and >lots of flame wars etc. and time
with less email like now.
i, like others, have been on and off the list since the mid 90's. as stated
above, there have been many trends of high volume and low volume. the
argument that the list is dying is a pretty individual statement.
personally, i love the list like this. i recall many a flame war from years
back about the 100 messages per day this list used to generate. it all
depends on what you are on the list for. maybe that's what the next thread
should really be about and if there's enough consensus, majority can rule
about the fate of the list. i realize consensus on this list has potential
to be futile.
for me, the list is a place where i know i will come across people unafraid
to express their opinions. i am also assured of reading thoughts from some
very long term, die hard ig fans as well as newer fans. the list also
provides the definite latest and most up to date concert and album
information. occasionally we venture into what i call ig inspired topics
that aren't necessarily ig music related. true that every show is not
reviewed anymore, but a large majority are. i love that we haven't seen an
"are amy and emily dating" post in years (unless i missed it). i met two of
my best friends right here via random boot trading. i just see this list as
being more mature and less obsessed than it used to be. i like this sort of
evolved version. i would be curious to hear other opinions. i get enough
other email to not be heart broken if there is only 1 post in a day from
here. for me, the volume and current content is just enough. looking
forward to discussion...greg

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>i have been on this list = off and on for the past 10 years also. i have seen so many trends on here. l= ots of email and >lots of flame wars etc. and time with less email like n= ow.

i, like others, have been on and off the list since the mid 90's. as = stated above, there have been many trends of high volume and low volume. &nb= sp;the argument that the list is dying is a pretty individual statement. &nb= sp;personally, i love the list like this. i recall many a flame war fr= om years back about the 100 messages per day this list used to generate. &nb= sp;it all depends on what you are on the list for. maybe that's what t= he next thread should really be about and if there's enough consensus, major= ity can rule about the fate of the list. i realize consensus on this l= ist has potential to be futile.

for me, the list is a place where i know i will come across people unafraid= to express their opinions. i am also assured of reading thoughts from= some very long term, die hard ig fans as well as newer fans. the list= also provides the definite latest and most up to date concert and album inf= ormation. occasionally we venture into what i call ig inspired topics = that aren't necessarily ig music related. true that every show is not = reviewed anymore, but a large majority are. i love that we haven't see= n an "are amy and emily dating" post in years (unless i missed it)= . i met two of my best friends right here via random boot trading. &nb= sp;i just see this list as being more mature and less obsessed than it used = to be. i like this sort of evolved version. i would be curious t= o hear other opinions. i get enough other email to not be heart broken= if there is only 1 post in a day from here. for me, the volume and cu= rrent content is just enough. looking forward to discussion...greg</bl= ockquote

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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 01:43:33 -0700
reply-to: jeremy <indigoboy@indigofans.com>
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maybe i'm completely behind on this one, but i was watching something
called burly tv tonight (never heard of it before, and it was on some
public access channel). anyways, the girls were on there from their
show at the bowery ballroom in nyc. they interviewed them and showed
the sound check and a bit of the end of the show. they played moment of
forgiveness. it was like a ten minute or so piece on them. pretty
cool. of course, i didn't happen to tape it. is this a new thing or
has it been broadcast before? did anyone else see it?
jer
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 20:16:00 +1000
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>> surely this would jeopardise any future touring here by the ig,
>=20
> good point. maybe we should be petitioning the relevant people for ig
> tours. wasn't there talk of them planning to be here in early 2002?

hi, its paul from brisbane
i had the opportunity to meet emily last april in atlanta and she mentioned
that they planned to tour australia in 2002, i'm guessing that they will
wait till our summer till they come down to tour.
yep, sony have been dragging their heels with the release, every fan i know
has brought the us copy. although it wouldn=b9t surprise me if they release
the album closer to the concert with some sort of bonus disk as an
incentive.
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 08:18:26 -0400
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see, i said to neil that i had some reservations but that if it came down
to it i didn't see the harm in merging with the other group. but paula
expressed my reservations perfectly. then again, i think it's quality and
not quantity.
sorry for the short post. it's early. haven't had my coffee yet.
peace,
tracy
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 08:54:28 -0400
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>>paula wrote: my thread starter: if someone asked
>>you why you like indigo girls music so much, what
>>would you say?
it's just great music. i don't feel that they're affected by the
commercialism that most artists succumb to (not mentioning any names). i
can appreciate their music on an aesthetic level. i've met many people and
made many friends from this list. i made one friend on this list that i
road-tripped to albany with and by chance we met up with a group of listees
at the albany free concert and my friend and i hooked up with two people at
that concert who also happened to be listees and now we're all living here
in albany. :) *taking breath* sorry for the run-on. anyway, it's just
good music. and with the grasp of the english language that the two
artists have, as well as the activism in which they participate, they're
just outstanding on so many levels. i think that's why they've been able
to maintain that faithful fan base that allows them to pretty much do what
they want within their record label. also, i've been introduced to other
great artists. ig tangents, if you will. or six degrees of ig. michelle
malone (and because of michelle, david ryan harris (what happened to him?)
and john mayer (before he signed his soul to aware/columbia records but i'm
not judging and i'm happy that he's becoming more well known), kristen
hall, gerard mchugh, shawn mullins, michael lorant, and all of them
encompassed in the new mongrels. there are so many other great musicians,
but i don't want to ramble anymore than i have already. anyway, it's all
good.
can't wait for emily's book to come out. heehee!!
peace,
tracy
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 09:06:50 -0400
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thanks for the billy joel earworm, greg. (trust me, i wasn't being
sarcastic...love him as much as i love ig).
i also agree with greg, i wouldn't change a thing about this list. it's
like a beloved and extended e-family (having been on/off since 95) and i
like seeing old familiars. it's like cheers.
but i think that threads are fun when it's slow. gives us something to do,
ya know? for instance there was a lull on the ferrick list, so we started
talking about top 5 songs, top 5 albums and "what compilation would you
take on a trip to the moon" (lots of david bowie, peter schilling, et al in
there on mine with one billy joel song to boot). you know, fun stuff that
doesn't require too much brain power.
threads are like a bottle of bubbles. they're easy, they're fun and when
you get tired you can put the cap back on and do it again later.
lol, peace,
tracy
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 10:10:23 -0400
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i was on the previous version of this list called the "closer to fine" list. i joined this list after that one died. so i have seen a list die before, i say that this list may be slowing down but it is far from dying. you know i can say that?
when i offered to make video copies for people or send magazine issues, within five minutes, my emailbox was full of interested parties. you want to know if this list makes an impact, just post an email asking everyone who reads that email to send an email back just to say hello. you will be amazed at the volume of the responses.
now, why do i like indigo girls? being a professional writer, i have always been drawn to strong lyrics. amy and emily consistently deliver great lyrics; great words and ideas are always contained in their material. i do respect their integrity and the joy they show in performing also. these days, it might even be square to enjoy ig because they stay fully dressed when they pose or perform. if liking them makes me a square, so be it. i have reached that age where i know what i like and i don't need to experiment anyway.
-scott
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 10:21:06 edt
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... $14 total! (9 for the ticket; 4 for s/h). the only catch is that you
need to get me the money asap so i can send the ticket priority mail. if you
want it, call me (ask for karen) at work. (510) 644-0772 (10a-6p pacific
time). in fact, i will send you the ticket in today's or tomorrow's post if
you promise to send me a money order. great deal! see ig in seattle for
only $14!
:-) karen
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... $14 total! (9 for the ticket; 4 for s/h). the only catch is that you need to get me the money asap so i can send the ticket priority mail. if you want it, call me (ask for karen) at work. (510) 644-0772 (10a-6p pacific time). in fact, i will send you the ticket in today's or tomorrow's post if you promise to send me a money order. great deal! see ig in seattle for only $14!

:-) karen

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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 10:40:32 -0400
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yet another old timer (~10 years) chiming in...
personally i think the list is maturing, not dying. as a number of
people have pointed out we don't have nearly as many "are they
dating?" or "i saw amy and ___ in the dillards last night...." type
comments. we don't have the 5000 messages pounding these people into
submission either.
people tend to be more interested in concert reviews, honest
criticism/discussion of albums (back in the day woe be onto you if
you didn't particularly like something, except possibly for
"airplane"), trading boots, and meeting at shows. when controversy
does break out its usually 1) at least somewhat ig related and 2)
mostly well thought out discussion on issues that have good arguments
on both sides (e.g., mwmf). most importantly, we have an
administrator that's willing to referee when one or the other
condition, shall we say, is no longer being met =)
personally, i like it much much more than the chat rooms or web sites
(we did have a good irc thing going for a while).
the list has gone through quite a bit and has flourished. remember
when steven spencer had to give up list admin and the list shut down
for about 2 months? two groups independently set up new lists
(thanks sherlyn and jude), then found out about each other, then
found a way to get everyone back in one list. remember when the
signal to noise was so bad that we debated to going to moderated
posts, but ended up with the list and ig faqs hoping reason would
prevail (it has). to me, those came much closer to killing list than
anything today. in september students will return and with them the
people that discover the list for the first time. the volume will
recover.
to the thread of the moment:
> if someone asked you why you like indigo girls music so much, what
>would you say?
early on, songs like ctf, lr, and sf helped me express parts of
myself that i never could get to on my own. that's no longer true,
but the reason why remains the same. the philosophy and music is
reflective, honest, and fun in a way that was approachable to all.
it also mixed in political and self awareness in a way that i really
admire. as time has gone on, i think the music has only increased
in honesty, intelligence, and complexity. sometimes this makes the
songs less approachable to me (stwm) and sometimes they will take a
risk in a direction i don't like, but overall i increasingly enjoy
their work.
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 09:52:22 -0500
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hey listees
i have two tickets for the mpls. show on july 5th. i found better seats, =
so i am just trying to recoup my cost on these. they are in the second =
row of the balcony, center section. the state theater is small, so i =
think the seats are pretty good. i am asking face value for them, which =
is $37.00 each. that excludes ticketbastard charges. if you are =
interested, send an email to me at elfowl@usfamily.net. i have a paypal =
account, so payment should be fairly easy. if i don't hear from anyone =
by tomorrow morning, july 3, i will have to put them up on ebay to see =
if i can get my money out of them. i also posted this to the indigofans =
message board.
i appreciate the bandwidth!!=20
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hey listees
i have two tickets for the mpls. show on july 5th. i found better = seats, so i=20 am just trying to recoup my cost on these. they are in the second row of = the=20 balcony, center section. the state theater is small, so i think the = seats are=20 pretty good. i am asking face value for them, which is $37.00 each. that = excludes ticketbastard charges. if you are interested, send an email to = me at=20 elfowl@usfamily.net. i have a paypal account, so payment should be = fairly easy.=20 if i don't hear from anyone by tomorrow morning, july 3, i will have to = put them=20 up on ebay to see if i can get my money out of them. i also posted this = to the=20 indigofans message board.
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 11:00:23 edt
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so, i shook amy's hand, watched emily hanging out with sully, told blair he
was good and got my foot stepped on by connie from mrs fun.
i was backstage at the harley davidson stage at summerfest.
it was interesting and kind of cool to be that close to all the action, but i
really like being in the audience, waiting 6 hours, etc better. i never
thought i'd say that, but i kept feelign like i had to kind of apologize for
the privledge of being backstage and be like, "i paid my dues, i always wait
in line, i'm not some snob who doesn't even like the band and just has
connections, i promise." but enough about my weirdness.
my dad works knows the guy who was running the stage, that's how i ended up
backstage.
at first it looked liek i wouldn't get to stay cause the ...i don't know his
title, maybe tour manager(?) said that ig wanted no one back stage and then
my dad's friend was like, but these are executives from harley davidson.
which did not impress the guy but then i was liek i'm a crazy fan and his
face softened and he said he's see what he could do. he came back and said it
was fien and asked my name and asked how it was spelled and then came back
with an autographed photo. he was incredibly nice and had the best tattoos
and a really great australian accent.
he said ig was dissapointed that there wasn't any harley davidson "shwag" so
my dad is going to send him a truck load for them.
ig insisted on a recycling bin for their dressing room and i thought that was
cool but the guy running the venue was unamused. he was like, "we don't
recycle here anyway, so i don't know what good their seperating their garbage
will do." and i said "maybe they'll take it with them" and he gave me a look
like i was perhaps the most niave (sp) person on the planet, but come on,
it's amy and emily, they really might!
i was glad to not have to sit through mrs fun. i really like them personally,
but i just don't usually like their music.
i stood behind the sound board to watch. it was hotter than hell back there
and on the stage, i'm sure.
amy wore braids (i have to disagree w/ everyone who loves them, i'm not too
partial to them) and a baseball style t shirt with some sort of pointalism
looking face on it. she had light colored jeans and black boots. emily wore
dark jeans maybe and a peachish shirt.
the setlist was very emily oriented which is not really my thing, but they
did play laramie and go and a bunch of amy cuts from the new album.
after the show as amy was leaving i thanked her for letting us stay and shook
her hand. she was nice but seemed tired, i was afraid she'd be, i don't know,
afraid she'd brush me off or soemthing because i didn't earn my place
backstage, you know? but she was very nice.
(god, i think i have a complex about this whole backstage thing)
so, in closing, being backstage was interesting but i never ever want to do
it again, i'm grateful for the opportunity, but i'd rather be a part of the
crowd and if i do get close to them, get there on my own merits or whatever
as i usually do. i mean, i've talked with amy probably 6 times or more by
now and the other times were a lot more satisfying.
i also realized that i have never ever spoken with emily, it just never
happens. i am always bumping inot amy behind venues and when she's loading
her car but it never happens with emily. i don't mind , i think i'd be very
frustrated if i were an emily person and this was the way it worked out, but
being an amy person it works, it's just sort of funny.
long windedly and guilt riddled,
sarah
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> > if someone asked you why you like indigo girls music so much, what
> >would you say?
>
well, so many have said things so eloquently so far, it's hard for me
to come up with something original.
i was drawn to ig largely because of their lyrics. i thought that in
the wake of what i viewed as pop-music drivel, with country music quickly
propelling in that same direction, ig offered fresh perspectives on a variety
of topics, from the personal to the political. and even when the songs have
not been totally in tune with my experiences, they are universal enough that
i still gain something from them.
and as they've grown and explored/addressed a wider range of issues, i
think i've grown too. i certainly have gained great awareness about many
things because of how accessible they make the information.
i also like to sing along to ig songs! but don't worry, not in public!
take care, everyone,
deb
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> if someone asked you why you like indigo girls music so much, what
>would you say?

well, so many have said things so eloquently so far, it's hard for me to come up with something original.
i was drawn to ig largely because of their lyrics. i thought that in the wake of what i viewed as pop-music drivel, with country music quickly propelling in that same direction, ig offered fresh perspectives on a variety of topics, from the personal to the political. and even when the songs have not been totally in tune with my experiences, they are universal enough that i still gain something from them.
and as they've grown and explored/addressed a wider range of issues, i think i've grown too. i certainly have gained great awareness about many things because of how accessible they make the information.
i also like to sing along to ig songs! but don't worry, not in public!
take care, everyone,
deb

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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 10:09:36 -0500
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technically, i am not a lurker per say, having posted several times since joining the list in the mid 90's, but i'm prolly not known to many of you.
anyway, regarding the state of the list... i too have seen the ebb and flow of the list change drastically during my time as a member. and i must add my voice to those who like it just like it is... ebb and flow is good. it's a strong community, albeit an occasionally silent one, but one i wouldn't want to lose. i still wear my list t-shirt proudly at every concert in the hopes of someone recognizing it. 8-)
as for the thread of why i like the girls so much... that's a much harder issue to address. i've been asked it plenty lately by my friends who seem unable to grasp why i wanted to see the girls at edinburgh, philly, nyc twice, and baltimore this year and i never know quite what to say. i love the music, i love the guitar playing, i love the contrast and combination between amy and emily, i love the harmonizing of the vocals, and i absolutely adore the poetry of the lyrics (my list of favorite emily and amy-isms grows with each cd, lol). i also love the feeling of community and the great time had at each and every ig concert i've ever been too. recently i had the chance to see melissa etheridge not long after seeing the girls-- and while i loved the music and me puts on a very energetic and fun show... it was no comparison. the energy, love, fun, and sense of community experienced at an ig show is, imho, unparalleled in the entertainment industy. where else can the fans (including ones as young as 5) sing every word to every song and rock the house!?!?
wow... i don't think my bachelor's thesis was that long! lol. well, there you have my rather long winded sort-of answer. my friends would have long since abandoned my explanation due to shear boredom. ;-)
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 10:13:38 -0700
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that show was high energy!
it was the lead singer of blondie on amy' shirt. emily's looked like a
cuban smoking shirt with color.
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 08:13:36 -0700
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how many of us will be at the cambridge folk festival?
we're trying to get a big i.g posse together, and will be happy to merge with other crews.
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 11:17:48 -0400
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omg! i totally forgot about the irc. i go in every once in a while but no
one is usually in there. i miss that. that was one of the first things i
found before the list. i remember rick and nick and shannon and
stacy....lots of folks.
memories.....like the corners of my miiiind.
coffee's kicked in.
peace,
tracy
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 10:18:20 -0500
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hey all,
i have two 5th row orchestra pit seats that i won't be using tonight.
anyone interested? they were $84.00 total. i can meet you at the box
office before the show. they are section opo4, seats 126 & 128. check out
the seating chart, they are great seats.
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 11:30:04 -0400
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deb, you sing out loud as long as you want. i can guarantee that we'll all
join along in our own key. :)
it's all about feeling...
:)
peace,
tracy
(to those people whom i owe video copies too i will send them a.s.a.p and
i'm sorry i've been slacking in getting them back to you!)
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 12:31:44 -0400
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i'm sorry, what does bbs stand for? someone just said they're all rude, how do you know that? sorry, i'm just confused. do they have to do with the board linked to the official site?
sarah t rosenblum
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 09:38:46 -0700
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i have an original, sealed boarders bonus disk with "our deliverance,
everything in its own time and johnnyrottentail on it. i will give it to
the first person to email me back with an address where i can send it.
marie
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that was fast. i wish i had 50 to give away.
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as far as i know bbs is british broadcast system and if people are taking
them as rude, it might be more like sarcastic. brits are pretty
sarcastic. and really funny.
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 12:46:18 -0400
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one more thing, if you've ever wondered if ig can see the audience clearly from the stage(i always wonder this cause i know when you're doing a play it's usually hard to see the audience from the way it's lit (i guess depending on the theatre...but in my expeirence it's hard)
anyway, if you've wondered, they totally can.
that's all.
i like ig because... i listened to them for a couple of years before becomign a crazy fan. then i saw them live and i just totally fell in love. i guess i like their live presence, their personalities, i've always loved amy's voice, i like the complexity of their music and lyrics, i really love amy's stuff because it does (no matter how cliched this soudns and how like every review they get) have a harder edge. i am interested in emily's lyrics and know she's a great guitar player but i'm really moved by amy's energy and i guess i just like louder faster music and even amy's ballads have that feeling. i also like the apalacian (sp) influence going on now.
oh, that reminds me, a good review of the summerfest show in the milw journal today, but there was one line that pissed me off. the guy writing it said they complement each other yada yada, but then he said they lack a sense of humor and they just preach.
now, i really don't understand where this idea comes from, i think it's outdated and just somehting reviewers hear other rebviewers say and then they use it too. i just don't see how they preach. if their songs suffered because of their politics, than they might be preaching but i don't think that happens. i just wonder if reviewers say the same thing about male bands with strong political bents.
and the whole no sense of humor thing? where does that come from? it's always thrown at feminists and people concerned with making a difference.
like ani says, "i am not an angry girl...everytime i say soemthign they find it hard to hear they chalk it up to my anger and never their own fear."
bleah.
--sarah
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"bbs" stands for "bulletin board system," and the one in question is linked
to the "official" indigo girls site at www.indigogirls.com <http://www.indigogirls.com/>
indeed, we are not all rude and many of us on the bbs are also on the list.
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<< as far as i know bbs is british broadcast system>>
if it were that wouldn't it be bbc for british broadcasting corporation?
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probably the reviewer is the one lacking a sense of humor
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whoops - my mistake. now i know
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hm. well, i love the ig because their values are in tune with
mine....they seem like very nice people...i admire a person like amy who
runs every day, loves nature, her politics is right on the mark, and her
songs rock the house! i love emily because her songs are philosophical,
and she seems so sincere! i love that she has a sense of humor and has a
very strong positive outlook on life. and i read somewhere that she
likes to entertain when she's home....likes to have her friends over a
lot.

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bbs is referring to the message or bulletin boards located on various
websites. some of those boards can be very rude indeed, unfortunately, but
in their defense, i have met some great people that i count as friends and i
look forward to seeing them each time a tour comes around.
i do like this list and its format. i like the maturity level and i enjoy
reading the sheer joy that some people express after being at a concert and
the fact that they choose to share it. i have only been on this list for
about three years, but i have reaped many benefits from it.
the girls music has brought me joy and excitement. it inspired me to get off
my duff and start playing again, after a very long hiatus.
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 12:40:15 -0500
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you know, i just had to comment. i have bumped into/talked to amy 5 times
and in all those times i haven't really ever gotten to talk to emily either.
one time i was at a meet and greet thing so i did get her autograph and got
to tell her how amazing i thought she was. but that was it. i have a
million things signed by amy. and each and every time i have hung out after
a show amy will stop and chat. emily never has. i am also more of an amy
person so that is okay with me. i wonder if emily just doesn't like
chatting as much or what? interesting that someone else has had the same
experiences. and i am not at all saying that emily has ever been rude or
anything. just more passive. like she will walk right toward the bus and
just wave, while amy will come on over.
hmmmm...
i think i am just in a rambling mood today.
:)
mi rinda
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 12:46:37 -0500
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i don't think i can put it into words very well. so many of you have said
wonderful things. i would like to take pieces of each of your responses and
paste them into one. but i won't.
i think the main reason i like them so much is how true they are to their
music and their beliefs. their music is wonderful, the lyrics touch me in a
way no other artist ever has. both amy and emily have amazing gifts at
putting emotions into words. no matter what mood i am in there is always an
ig song that fits perfectly. even the sad songs are wonderful. when i am
sad i listen to them. you would think they would make things worse, but for
some reason even while emily is singing about her heart breaking there is
still hope in her voice. you don't get the feeling that everything is over.
i love that.
i also love how they stand up for what they believe in. they don't "sell
out" to the record label. i use that term loosely because i know how much
it is thrown around. but i think you all know what i mean. they don't let
the label push them around. they won't do corporate endorsements even
though they know it would help their career if they did. things like that.
anyway, i think they are just amazing people. of course when i first
started listening to their music i knew nothing about them. back then it
was just the lyrics. but the more i learn, the more i understand, the more
i can say i am proud to be an ig fan. they are simply amazing.
okay, like i said, rambling today.
:)
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i don't think i can put it into words very well. so many of you have said wonderful things. i would like to take pieces of each of your responses and paste them into one. but i won't.
i think the main reason i like them so much is how true they are to their music and their beliefs. their music is wonderful, the lyrics touch me in a way no other artist ever has. both amy and emily have amazing gifts at putting emotions into words. no matter what mood i am in there is always an ig song that fits perfectly. even the sad songs are wonderful. when i am sad i listen to them. you would think they would make things worse, but for some reason even while emily is singing about her heart breaking there is still hope in her voice. you don't get the feeling that everything is over. i love that.
i also love how they stand up for what they believe in. they don't "sell out" to the record label. i use that term loosely because i know how much it is thrown around. but i think you all know what i mean. they don't let the label push them around. they won't do corporate endorsements even though they know it would help their career if they did. things like that.
anyway, i think they are just amazing people. of course when i first started listening to their music i knew nothing about them. back then it was just the lyrics. but the more i learn, the more i understand, the more i can say i am proud to be an ig fan. they are simply amazing.
okay, like i said, rambling today.
:)
mi rinda
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 13:44:28 -0400
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i have to agree as well. in the times i've "talked" to amy, i've never really
seen emily around. the first time i met amy we were standing there chatting
and i turned around and emily was only about 15 feet from us. there was no one
around because it was way before the show. emily just sort of waved, smiled,
and walked away. though i, too, don't really mind b/c i'm more of an amy
person. but, yeah, it is odd that others have had the same experiences.
"kovacs, mirinda" wrote:
> you know, i just had to comment. i have bumped into/talked to amy 5 times
> and in all those times i haven't really ever gotten to talk to emily either.
> one time i was at a meet and greet thing so i did get her autograph and got
> to tell her how amazing i thought she was. but that was it. i have a
> million things signed by amy. and each and every time i have hung out after
> a show amy will stop and chat. emily never has. i am also more of an amy
> person so that is okay with me. i wonder if emily just doesn't like
> chatting as much or what? interesting that someone else has had the same
> experiences. and i am not at all saying that emily has ever been rude or
> anything. just more passive. like she will walk right toward the bus and
> just wave, while amy will come on over.
> hmmmm...
> i think i am just in a rambling mood today.
> :)
> mi rinda
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yeah, that is weird. it's been the same for me, but also that amy tends to pop up in more random, non-star like places, like three times i've run into her when she wandered outside to the tourbus or her car, once when she arrived late in a cab on the street andthen several times backstage after shows where she wandered out and met my eye instead of walking past. she is also more willing to talk when you meet her in a club than emily. maybe emily just has a larger barrier between her personal life and her career.
-sarah
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 11:08:55 -0700
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i really can't explain it. and i don't expect anyone else to understand why
or how their music affects me to the degree that it does.
but does anyone else feel like i do...that my love for their music is a
personal thing? i don't really want to share it with anyone else.
i mean, if i have people over to my house, i'll have ig in the cd changer
(usually about 1/3 of the discs are ig), and if they mention it, i'll be
more than happy to talk to them about the girls.
however, other than that, i don't really want to share. i don't want to
hear "yeah, they're alright i guess", or whatever. listening to ig is about
the closest thing to a spiritual experience as i have ever had, and i don't
want to defend it, i don't want to debate it, i just want to enjoy it for
everything that it does for me.
my gf is always trying to get bartenders to put in an ig disc at our
favorite pubs, or tries to get people to say that they think ig are
terrific. i just don't want to share in that way. it is my thing.
anyway, i can't explain why i love the ig. but i think that to many of
you...thankfully...i don't have to.

melissa
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 14:20:53 -0400
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well i think she might be tired or shy (either one is understandably so).
i don't think of it as being rude either. i'm really grateful that i've
gotten her autograph twice. but i've been passed by just as many times.
no biggie, ya know? can't expect them to cater to everyone. :) the way i
figure it, if she comes out, cool. if she doesn't come out, cool. but the
times that she has stopped to autograph something she was just as nice as
can be. :)
peace,
tracy
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 15:36:12 -0400
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funny that you should say this. i also, in rebellion of the "turn off =
electronic devices during take off/landing" rule, listen to fugitive when =
we are taking off. this is a constant thing for me. i hated flying even =
before the 9-11 situation and now i hate it even more. i go to college in =
va and live in ny, so when i go home, i usually take the delta shuttle, =
which is only a 55 min ride. but regardless, listening to a little ig =
calms my nerves :)
~diana
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here's my thread contribution: do any ig songs factor into any superstition=
or ritual you have. for instance, i always listen to closer to fine as the
airplane im a passenger on is either taking off or landing. i dont recall
how it started but it is now a must for this white-knuckled frequent =
flyer.
(and yes, i routinely flout the turn off your cd player rules on takeoffs
and landings, tho i do keep the volume low enough to be able to hear any
emergency announcements.)
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 17:13:00 edt
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hey, i'm just a lurker..i used to post much more often. i just realized
that i have been on this list for almost 6 years. i still feel like a
newbie...
anyway...i just wanted to say that i love this list. when i first
found "the list", i only knew one other person who felt about the girls as i
did. after subbing here, i was amazed to learn that there are many other
mature, honest, humorous people who share my passion for their music and my
respect for them as individuals. and the people who are on this list are
among the kindest i have ever met. just a quick story to illustrate this
point. a few years ago, i had lawn seats to see the girls at lilith fair in
toronto. there were two days scheduled at that venue and try as i might, i
could not get seats for the other day. so i posted to this list. almost
immediately, i got a respone from a listee who had two tickets and was
willing to give them to me at face value. not only were they decent seats,
but they were for front row. the only problem was i had to convince my
girlfriend to meet these total strangers at a hotel, in a strange city, to
pick up the tickets. we were so scared! but it all turned out good in the
end. (i can't remember who that listee was, but if you are still on the list,
i will never forget how cool you were!!!)
that is just an example of why i love this list so much. i've never go
tten rude responses for dumb questions....people always try to accomodate
when i'm doing a b&p...everyone is accepting of everyone elses preferences;
musical, sexual or otherwise,and i have become aquainted with some really
terrific individuals. i hope the list stays just the way it is.
thanks for listening
mary
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hey, i'm just a lurker..i used to post much more often. i just realized that i have been on this list for almost 6 years. i still feel like a newbie...
anyway...i just wanted to say that i love this list. when i first found "the list", i only knew one other person who felt about the girls as i did. after subbing here, i was amazed to learn that there are many other mature, honest, humorous people who share my passion for their music and my respect for them as individuals. and the people who are on this list are among the kindest i have ever met. just a quick story to illustrate this point. a few years ago, i had lawn seats to see the girls at lilith fair in toronto. there were two days scheduled at that venue and try as i might, i could not get seats for the other day. so i posted to this list. almost immediately, i got a respone from a listee who had two tickets and was willing to give them to me at face value. not only were they decent seats, but they were for front row. the only problem was i had to convince my girlfriend to meet these total strangers at a hotel, in a strange city, to pick up the tickets. we were so scared! but it all turned out good in the end. (i can't remember who that listee was, but if you are still on the list, i will never forget how cool you were!!!)
that is just an example of why i love this list so much. i've never gotten rude responses for dumb questions....people always try to accomodate when i'm doing a b&p...everyone is accepting of everyone elses preferences; musical, sexual or otherwise,and i have become aquainted with some really terrific individuals. i hope the list stays just the way it is.
thanks for listening
mary

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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 17:32:10 -0400
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i love the ig because just when i think that i have "discovered" all
songs on a particular album, a song really begins to speak to me, and i
love it so much more. i started liking the ig in 1990, and even went to
concerts back then. i have become much more of a fan in the past few
years, i suspect becasue it's been a little easier to afford tickets to
go to more than one concert during a tour. :) i too find their music
to be incredibly spiritual. their lyrics are wonderful. and, i love
both amy and emily's songs, although i probably enjoy the "amy" songs
more live than the emily songs. also, i met emily (not amy) after
seeing the ig with the atlanta ballet. she was very gracious, and i was
happy to have met her. i would have love to have met amy, but she took
off through some back door. i often think that i could be friends with
the ig. i imagine other people feel that way as well. i think that if
i lived in atlanta, i'd have a shot at it. being in nj, it will
probably never happen. oh well. i don't need to be friends with them
to love their music. i have never been this much of a "fan" before of
any band. i am grateful that the ig are still making great music, and
are still touring.
i joined this list about 4-5 months ago. i saw it listed on an ig fan
website (can't remember which one). i don't like bbs's as much as
lists. i think it's easier to follow a list, and i like getting email.
so, i for one would definitely like to see this list continue.
i would have liked to have gotten together with people from this list
before the philly and nyc shows. it would have been great to meet some
real fans. maybe next time.
peace,
sue
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 17:54:13 -0500
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hey kind friends,
i am a long-time lurker who occasionally posts a concert review here, a question there, an activism alert out there, etc. i just love reading the different opinions, ideas and emotions expressed here. i'm pretty sure this list has life yet! weren't you happy to see your ig folder full of mail today?
a friend turned me onto ig in 1989. indigo girls and ctf blew me away. i definitely wore out that tape. my first concert experience wasn't until they played the arie crown theatre in chicago during the swamp ophelia tour. that was because i had moved to italy in 1989 to be with my partner. i'll never forget... they opened with "reunion" and i just started crying...it was so beautiful and i was finally seeing them live! since 1995 when we moved here, i've been able to see them almost every time they've been in chicago and the times they've been at mwmf. a couple of good hoosier friends took me to indy to see them last friday. i can only echo what everyone else who was there has said: it was the best show i've ever seen them do. the energy was unbelievable. some other highlights not previously mentioned: i think it was before "midnight train to georgia" that blair (it is blair, right? or is it brady?) started drumming like a madman and amy stopped and said something about the amount of ribs he had consumed that day and how he had been in rib heaven. he was super energized, that's for sure! she also said that while blair (or brady) was consuming the ribs (and watching a movie on his computer!), emily, carol and clare were working the ny times crossword while she, amy, was eating a lot.
after the show, my friends and i made the mistake of going to the car to get a camera to take a picture of the great marquee that had "indigo girls" in big letters on it and we missed amy coming out and signing. but we were there for emily. she signed my coaster and i asked her if they ever play "everything in its own time." she said sometimes. so i asked her if they could play it in chicago on the 4th and she said that they wouldn't since it's an outdoor show and the song needs a little more intimate setting (d'uh, michele!...) she said that it's a song they should re-learn, though.
so why do i love ig? for many of the same reasons already expressed here: their music and lyrics speak to me in a way that no others do. i respect them for their activist and artistic philosophies. they make me feel more alive and in tune with all beings and the universe. i can try to explain it, but words cannot capture why i love ig.
to anyone still here reading this long rambling tale: i plan on being at taste of chicago at 11am when the doors open. would anyone like to be a line-buddy (or buddies) with me for seats at the petrillo bandshell? i would be honored to share some time with someone from this great list! viva la lista indigo!
baci e abbracci,
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 19:25:51 -0400
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hey people.
if anyone has to get rid of a 7/10 pier ticket for the seattle show---i will gladly buy it from you...thought i would check here before i order one from tm.
later gators.
kara.
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diane weidenkopf wrote:
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> ok this is open to jude and the first 4 digest people who email.
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> you just have to prove to me you are on the digest version somehow.
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> diane
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>> please note the time these emails are sent:
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>> subject: b&p 6/16/02
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>> thanks to dee, i'd like to offer this show to the list.>> and
>> <<
>> date: mon, 1 jul 2002 19:25:04 -0500
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>> subject: re: b&p 6/16/02 - offer closed
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>> offer closed.>> i hope true salvation and financial security are
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diane weidenkopf wrote:
oh you digesters... :-)
ok this is open to jude and the first 4 digest people who email.
you just have to prove to me you are on the digest version somehow.
diane
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 20:41:52 edt
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i've been a member of the list in its various incarnations for the past 8
years at least (back from the steve spencer days) and i would hate to see it
die! as someone else mentioned, i feel like a more "mature" ig fan, having
been listening to them since 1989, and i don't mind lower list volume. i do
think it's been disappointing how few reviews have been posted since this
tour started, but happy to see so many people respond about the list's
future.
as for paula's question, i tell people that the indigo girls have been the
soundtrack to my life for the past dozen years or so and i don't think i'll
ever get tired of them. the girls' music has been with me as i changed jobs,
moved multi times, started a family, adopted my daughter in china, celebrated
my 40th birthday, etc. i'm sure we all have our own intangible reasons for
connection with the ig. different songs resonate with different people, and
that's what's neat about the girls. a & e bring diverse perspectives and
talents to their musical collaboration. i think it was amy who said, in
response to a question about them breaking up, something like, "if it was
just emily, that would be too much emily, and if was just me, that would be
too much me." i'm sure amy's solo fans would disagree that all amy-all the
time is too much <g>, but i love what they do together. they're excellent
musicians, really socially conscious people, and too cool for words!
heidi
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 20:08:27 -0500
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i've been a fan only for about seven years. i'd been resistant to ig for a
long time, believing what others had said about them being touchy-feely
folkies. not my type of music.
but then i accidentally heard a really interesting song on a soundtrack --
liked it a lot for the harmonies and structure. turns out it was "power of
two." since then, their music has always shown up at just the right time.
i've found myself crying in the car because "let it be me" came on the cd
player just when i was feeling discouraged about a battle with school
administration about letting students on our campus feel safe about who
they are. "least complicated" always shows up when things are spinning out
of control. "world falls," a song that starts by describing a terrible
weight, a "stone strapped onto my back, ... a burning hope turning all my
blues to black" amazingly has this chorus:
"this world falls on me dreams of immortality
everywhere i turn all the beauty just keeps shaking me
now i'm running to the end of the earth and i'm swimming to the edge of the sea
and i'm laughing i'm under starry skies this world was meant for me
don't bury me (carry me)"
so much of their music seems to be about how hard it can be to live a
conscious life -- to feel the pain of loss, of injustice -- and yet what
transcendence and joy comes from that very same awareness.
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 20:42:59 -0400
reply-to: - deb - <indigo@mindspring.com>
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one of the original concerns was that not enough people know where to find
the list. i have a suggestion that could help with that problem. yahoo
groups has the ability to mirror a group. i have one of my lists which is
on smoe.org mirrored there, and some of my subscribers even joined there
and set it to "no mail" so they can take advantage of yahoo features like
chat and photo upload. and, of course, it allows people to find my list
even though they can't post from a yahoo groups subscription. most
subscribers never post anyway, but those who want to can can just follow
the instructions at the yahoo mirror to join the smoe list.
that said... i don't know that i want the masses at yahoo groups to be
here. as many others have stated, a low-volume, high-info, high-maturity
list is pretty refreshing on today's internet. but if we want an influx of
new blood, that'd be one way to get it, we might just have to rely more
heavily on moderation to keep the list worth reading.
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 21:35:26 -0400
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hi folks,
this was sent to the news list but is more appropriate for here instead. please direct any replies to the original sender at ledillard@yahoo.com, not to me, thanks...
-sherlyn
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subject: need san diego tickets!
i'm looking for 2 humphrey's tickets to one, or
preferably both nights. please email me at:
ledillard@yahoo.com
thanks, lynn
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 20:35:21 -0500
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subject: wow!
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start a thread and we post! :)=20
regarding the comments about emily not chatting as much as amy:
i got to "meet" them several years ago at a concert in springfield =
missouri. they came out of the back of the college and i remember a =
small handful of people there. emily smiled at me and said hi you got =
something for me to sign and laughed nervously not knowing what the heck =
to say! i passed over my cd insert from the gold collector's edition of =
indigo girls...she commented on how smart that was getting that =
autographed. i laughed and said don't worry i won't sell it. she passed =
it on to amy who signed it but didn't really say much. so that was the =
opposite of some of your experiences. however......
this past year i met amy again on her solo tour and she did chat with us =
at tower records when she was signing autographs and meeting the fans.=20
i guess they are just like the rest of us: sometimes on and sometimes =
off ;) when i am at * work* sometimes i don't feel like chatting:)=20
but in all the concerts i have gone to and seen them after, they always =
seem receptive to their fan base.
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start a thread and we post! :) =
regarding the comments about emily not = chatting as=20 much as amy:
i got to "meet" them several years ago = at a concert=20 in springfield missouri. they came out of the back of the college and i = remember=20 a small handful of people there. emily smiled at me and said hi you got=20 something for me to sign and laughed nervously not knowing what the heck = to say!=20 i passed over my cd insert from the gold collector's edition of indigo=20 girls...she commented on how smart that was getting that autographed. i = laughed=20 and said don't worry i won't sell it. she passed it on to amy who signed = it but=20 didn't really say much. so that was the opposite of some of your = experiences.=20 however......
this past year i met amy again on her = solo tour and=20 she did chat with us at tower records when she was signing autographs = and=20 meeting the fans.
i guess they are just like the rest of = us:=20 sometimes on and sometimes off ;) when i am at * work* sometimes i don't = feel=20 like chatting:)
but in all the concerts i have gone to = and seen=20 them after, they always seem receptive to their fan base.
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 22:23:07 -0400
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hey folks,
here's the milwaukee summerfest article that was
mentioned earlier... you can read it online at
<http://www.jsonline.com/onwisconsin/music/jul02/56143.asp>.
-sherlyn
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indigo girls' musical duality connects with fans
indigo girls
last updated: july 2, 2002
sometimes musicians are more than just the sum of their songs.
the indigo girls would be an example. certainly the indigos connect with
their audience musically, but there's quite a bit more to it than that. it
was readily evident monday night at the harley-davidson roadhouse as it is
at all of their concerts.
amy ray and emily saliers have a fervent following while other acts for
the '80s folk boom have fallen back to coffeehouse status.
they have never had anything close to mainstream radio acceptance, but
when they launch into one of their old favorites like "get out the map" or
"shame on you," you get an instant sing-along. there's also an interesting
musical duality. saliers is more folk and country. she played the banjo on
several songs monday and her new song "collecting you" is a tender country
love tune.
amy is more rock 'n' roll, more plugged-in, more punk. "shame on you" with
its la-la-la-la chorus is close summer cousin to van morrison's
"brown-eyed girl." the indigos may be a little humor deficient, but they
do have a knack for rocking and preaching at the same time.
- dave tianen, journal sentinel staff
appeared in the milwaukee journal sentinel on july 2, 2002.
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date: wed, 3 jul 2002 00:08:30 -0400
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i would like to get a copy of the following cds. would anyone be =
willing to make copies for b & p?
i am looking for
9:30 club
attack of the killer b-sides vol 1 and vol. 4
indigo girls: early recordings volume 4 - blue food mysterys=20

rhea & kim,
it took a long time to become the thing i am to you, ...it took a long =
time to become you.
a.ray, indigo girls
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i would like to get a copy of the following = cds. =20 would anyone be willing to make copies for b & = p?
i am looking for
9:30 club
attack of the killer b-sides vol 1 and vol.=20 4
indigo girls: early recordings volume 4 - = blue food=20 mysterys
rhea & kim,
it took a long time to become the thing i am to = you, ...it=20 took a long time to become you.
a.ray, indigo=20 girls
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 23:21:45 -0500
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hey--does anyone know when ig will be playing july 4th at the taste of
chicago? i know concerts start at 3 pm but i would rather show up when ig
are there as opposed to sitting through midnight oil and marcia ball (anyone
know who marcia ball is?). thanks for any info as i am unfamiliar with the
taste concert setup. should be a fun day out!--greg
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great post mary!
hi, it's joe agian. i've been in lurk mode as well... it's part of my
probation!
i have to agree with mary, this list rocks. it does, like every social or
group thing have it's share of annoying and self-rightous folks, but for the
most part, we're all ig fans!
i know you all know how hard it is to get anyone to say "yeah, i know them"
and either not be talking about 'galilao' or a melessia etheridge song
mistaken for and ig one.
i love that i can mention a song like world falls or center stage or even the
ballad of squeaky fromme and not be looked at really strange... (at least not
for my question)
i remember a friend from jhs in 1989 when i first found amy and emily, my
friend and i were both big heavy metal fans. and when i told her of these new
girls that i really like she asked "how heavy are they"
she refused to accept that this was anything less then distorted guitar and
screaming girls. and she still to this day ribs me about them.
you are my people... i may not have the same sexual prefrence as many of you
(actully, i think we almost all like girls) i personaly am not as intrested
in native american rights, and i'm not a big political advocate or activist
by any stretch, but i do love harmony, i do love guitar, i love philospohical
lyrics becuase like harry chapin said "..a song don't have much meaning if it
don't got nothing to say..." and i love the indigo girls
you all rule!
love,
joe
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great post mary!

hi, it's joe agian. i've been in lurk mode as well... it's part of my probation!

i have to agree with mary, this list rocks. it does, like every social or group thing have it's share of annoying and self-rightous folks, but for the most part, we're all ig fans!

i know you all know how hard it is to get anyone to say "yeah, i know them" and either not be talking about 'galilao' or a melessia etheridge song mistaken for and ig one.

i love that i can mention a song like world falls or center stage or even the ballad of squeaky fromme and not be looked at really strange... (at least not for my question)

i remember a friend from jhs in 1989 when i first found amy and emily, my friend and i were both big heavy metal fans. and when i told her of these new girls that i really like she asked "how heavy are they"

she refused to accept that this was anything less then distorted guitar and screaming girls. and she still to this day ribs me about them.

you are my people... i may not have the same sexual prefrence as many of you (actully, i think we almost all like girls) i personaly am not as intrested in native american rights, and i'm not a big political advocate or activist by any stretch, but i do love harmony, i do love guitar, i love philospohical lyrics becuase like harry chapin said "..a song don't have much meaning if it don't got nothing to say..." and i love the indigo girls

you all rule!

love,
joe
manhattan,ny
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date: tue, 2 jul 2002 23:28:44 -0500
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i don't know when the show starts, but i do know who marcia ball is. they
play her latest couple songs on 105.5 triple m in madison. she's a
blueswoman.
"if you don't believe i'm leavin', you can count the days i'm gone
(1,2,3,4,5,6,7)"
also "don't tell luella. if you tell luella, you might as well tell the
world."
<http://www.marciaball.com/>
i'm not much for blues, but i like her songs ok.
-andrea
on tue, 2 jul 2002, greg flamer wrote:
> hey--does anyone know when ig will be playing july 4th at the taste of
> chicago? i know concerts start at 3 pm but i would rather show up when ig
> are there as opposed to sitting through midnight oil and marcia ball (anyone
> know who marcia ball is?). thanks for any info as i am unfamiliar with the
> taste concert setup. should be a fun day out!--greg
>
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date: wed, 3 jul 2002 01:44:46 -0700
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hi y'all,
the other day i had the misfortune to listen to some of the new eminem cd.
it is, of course, truly disgusting. but it did get me thinking about why i
love a and e so much. the 'girls represent everything that is truly
positive and beautiful about popular music. eminem represents everything
that is vile and offensive, not only about music, but about our society in
general.
the indigo girls are sensitive, inspiring and intelligent. eminen is crude
and has nothing positive or intelligent to say and intentionally tries to
offend as many people as possible.
what's really sad is that eminem will probably sell 20 times as many cds as
a and e.
dave....who still gets goosebumps when i hear " love will come to you"
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it's early, and i've had only 2 hours sleep, but the show was worth it. first, amy looked delicious as usual. emily was also her usual cute self. there was a fan blowing on emily, which continued to strew her hair. by the end of the show it looked really wild. it was just awesome looking. she was getting into an incredible guitar solo on laramie. sparks flying from her guitar strings and wind blowing her hair--wow! amy is just awesome as ever live. i love to see her when she gets so passionate, especially on songs she's written that have a political flare like, laramie and faye tucker. lisa loeb was great, also. she sang the last verse w/ ig on ctf. she has an incredible voice and is a great guitar player. i enjoyed her opener a lot and will probably pick up her new cd. she was really down to earth and personable. now, for the bad. without fail, there is always some idiot who won't sit down or sings out on songs it is inappropriate for, such as collecting you. these 3 girls were in front of me, and my gf did not see 90 percent of the show. i wanted to rip their heads off. then, watching them give their looks of confusion when laramie and the wood song were played, i was livid! they were constantly screaming out, "galileo!!" why do you go to a concert and scream for a song like that, which you can here overhead at wal-mart!!?? oh, yeah! this was just an extra tidbit. my gf's supervisor was at the concert sitting a couple rows from us. this is not unusual except that she's in her 30's and in the closet. she was w/ her gf, which we suspected a couple years ago. she was talking to several people, so she's obviously in the gay community. when she saw me and my gf--talk about "deer in the headlights!" but, she need not worry. no one is going to out her! this was just a little extra for my gf, since she's not a fan of ig, it made her night!
here are songs that i remember. i'm not sure on the order, and i'm not sure it is complete, but i'm going by memory. anyway, it was great. ig sang for close to two hours i estimate.
bitterroot
shame on you
hope alone
yield
least complicated
laramie
gone again
collecting you
you've got to show
reunion
get out the map
closer to fine
faye tucker
the wood song
encore
deconstruction
galileo
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in a message dated tue, 2 jul 2002 9:10:23 am eastern standard time, subcityii writes:
>
>
>
>
> when i offered to make video copies for people or send magazine issues, within five minutes, my emailbox was full of interested parties.
...and thanks for the last video you offered!
>
> now, why do i like indigo girls? being a professional writer, i have always been drawn to strong lyrics. amy and emily consistently deliver great lyrics; great words and ideas are always contained in their material. i do respect their integrity and the joy they show in performing also. these days, it might even be square to enjoy ig because they stay fully dressed when they pose or perform. if liking them makes me a square, so be it. i have reached that age where i know what i like and i don't need to experiment anyway.
i second this emotion. i rarely post to the list but i've been a member since 1994. i didn't even know what the internet was until after i came home from the swamp ophelia fan tour, and that was the impetus i needed to go online.
they've added so much to my life and this list is the best one i've come across. there's integrity here...quite reflective of the artists we appreciate so much.
i'll be here till this sinks
rena
>
> -scott
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date: wed, 3 jul 2002 08:58:27 -0700
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i e-mailed xrt and asked them - no reply. i can't tell if ig are
headlining, or if marcia ball is.
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hey y'all,
i believe that the cheap 9 july seattle ticket is sold. however if you is
still really interested, you can e-mail me at lilhte@yahoo.com (the e-mail i
have access to at work) at around 1pm pst and i can let you know for sure.
:) thanks for the overwhelming responses that i received.
as far as this list and the bbs go, let me say this. i have been a member of
this list for almost 7 years now (under various e-mail addresses). i used to
post more actively, but have gotten busier with my job (and before that
school) over the years. i love this list. i love knowing that there are
people out there who love the girls as much as i do. plus this list is great
for information. during the past two years i also started posting to the
bbs. i have to admit, i was skeptical at first. yes, that board has its
share of "are amy and _____ together?" but most of the regular posters stay
away from invasive topics and really are huge fans. i met my boyfriend on
the bbs as well as many friends. unlike this list, there are a lot of nigc
"shoot the shit" topics, and people really get a chance to know one another.
so i agree with what victoria (hi there!) and marie (?) said. this list is
really for the sole discussion of ig. the board is a place where ig fans
meet and talk about their lives as well as ig's music. they each have their
place.
i do agree that the amounts of mail have decreased here. but there is not
always something to talk about. and people are busy. if you are looking for
a place to discuss everything under the sun with other ig fans, then come
over to the bbs' fushda thread. :)
have a great day y'all.
:-) karen
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"and as for the truth, it seems like we just pick a theory"
-- emily saliers, indigo girls
"damn that ol' confederacy!"
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hey y'all,

i believe that the cheap 9 july seattle ticket is sold. however if you is still really interested, you can e-mail me at lilhte@yahoo.com (the e-mail i have access to at work) at around 1pm pst and i can let you know for sure. :) thanks for the overwhelming responses that i received.

as far as this list and the bbs go, let me say this. i have been a member of this list for almost 7 years now (under various e-mail addresses). i used to post more actively, but have gotten busier with my job (and before that school) over the years. i love this list. i love knowing that there are people out there who love the girls as much as i do. plus this list is great for information. during the past two years i also started posting to the bbs. i have to admit, i was skeptical at first. yes, that board has its share of "are amy and _____ together?" but most of the regular posters stay away from invasive topics and really are huge fans. i met my boyfriend on the bbs as well as many friends. unlike this list, there are a lot of nigc "shoot the shit" topics, and people really get a chance to know one another. so i agree with what victoria (hi there!) and marie (?) said. this list is really for the sole discussion of ig. the board is a place where ig fans meet and talk about their lives as well as ig's music. they each have their place.

i do agree that the amounts of mail have decreased here. but there is not always something to talk about. and people are busy. if you are looking for a place to discuss everything under the sun with other ig fans, then come over to the bbs' fushda thread. :)

have a great day y'all.

:-) karen

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in a message dated 7/3/2002 1:43:53 am pacific daylight time,
xophile@charter.net writes:

> the indigo girls are sensitive, inspiring and intelligent. eminen is crude
> and has nothing positive or intelligent to say and intentionally tries to
> offend as many people as possible.
>
"and there's that faggot-bashing poetry / but the boys are just saying 'love
me please' with every hate-filled phrase / they just give themselves away..."
-amy ray
"my insecurities could eat me alive."
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in a message dated 7/3/2002 1:43:53 am pacific daylight time, xophile@charter.net writes:

the indigo girls are sensitive, inspiring and intelligent. eminen is crude
and has nothing positive or intelligent to say and intentionally tries to
offend as many people as possible.

"and there's that faggot-bashing poetry / but the boys are just saying 'love me please' with every hate-filled phrase / they just give themselves away..."

-amy ray

"my insecurities could eat me alive."

-marshall mathers aka eminem
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howdy ya'll,
juliana here, lettin' ya'll know i'm not dead or
anything. but things have been more hectic than ever
in my entire life. i *just* got a new kitten, gabe,
and he's a big ig fan, don't worry, and then right
after-or was it just before?... something.-i got my
dream job-workin' at a coffee shop, yeah!!-and after
a few months of unemployment i've had to really
rearrange my life schedule.
so ok, cat, job, then this weekend i went all the way
to illinois-aurora-to see the monkees-we stayed at
their hotel and hung out for a bit, great guys-but the
whole thing took two full days of my time up, then
back to work with my first 40 hour week in months,
plus the kitten just went to the vet for the first
time this morning and i found out he has a bad ear
infection, so that needs to be dealt with.
basically, i missed the ig at summerfest concert and
i'm bummed to hell about it, but life goes on, right?
anyway, i was wondering about the setlist, as well as
if anyone taped it because i was supposed to go so at
least hearin' it would cheer me up a bit. so anyone
with any info, let me know, gabe and i would be very
glad to hear about it! peace and love ya'll!
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"part of emily is saying, 'we're working hard, and now you just shot us in the foot.' but i feel like we're shut out of that (rolling stone) anyway, so why not go out in a blaze of glory?" ~amy discussing emily's reaction to "lucystoners".
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howdy ya'll,

juliana here, lettin' ya'll know i'm not dead or
anything. but things have been more hectic than ever
in my entire life. i *just* got a new kitten, gabe,
and he's a big ig fan, don't worry, and then right
after-or was it just before?... something.-i got my
dream job-workin' at a coffee shop, yeah!!-and after
a few months of unemployment i've had to really
rearrange my life schedule.

so ok, cat, job, then this weekend i went all the way
to illinois-aurora-to see the monkees-we stayed at
their hotel and hung out for a bit, great guys-but the
whole thing took two full days of my time up, then
back to work with my first 40 hour week in months,
plus the kitten just went to the vet for the first
time this morning and i found out he has a bad ear
infection, so that needs to be dealt with.

basically, i missed the ig at summerfest concert and
i'm bummed to hell about it, but life goes on, right?
anyway, i was wondering about the setlist, as well as
if anyone taped it because i was supposed to go so at
least hearin' it would cheer me up a bit. so anyone
with any info, let me know, gabe and i would be very
glad to hear about it! peace and love ya'll!

=====
~juliana

"part of emily is saying, 'we're working hard, and now you just shot us in the foot.' but i feel like we're shut out of that (rolling stone) anyway, so why not go out in a blaze of glory?" ~amy discussing emily's reaction to "lucystoners".

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howdy ya'll,
why do i like the indigo girls? no, make that, why
do i *love* the indigo girls? because when all else
fails, crying along with "ghost" or "hope alone" or
"blood and fire" will always remind me that misery
loves company. and the days when for unknown reasons
my happiness level is cutting holes in the ceiling,
careening around my apartment to "shame on you" or
"chickenman"-yes, *i* love that song-or "bitterroot"
and about a bazillion others extends that feeling just
a bit longer.
i love them because they love us, they love society
and they love our world so much they're fighting every
single day for it, even at the cost of their own
commercial fame, or subsequent lack thereof . i love
them because when we all gather together and they play
for us, we get to play *with* them, get to sing their
lyrics back to them and somehow give them the same
high they give us. i love them because they have
learned how to love us back without compromising
anyone.
and as a 20 year old, they prove to me that there
is a middle ground, a give and take that doesn't take
too much. a world that doesn't expect *too* much of
what we're not willing to give. i don't have to
compromise my values and morals when i'm listening to
them, and sometimes i don't even have to think too
hard when i'm enjoying the music; they've found a
balance there too.
ok, enough. i've only been a fan for about 11
months now but cripes have i done my homework, paid my
dues, and been baptized again at their concert back in
march. but ya'll have served me well always, shown me
that ig fans are a cut above the rest, given me grand
friendships, showed me that people aren't just out for
profit-thank you all you generous booters!!-and taught
me that ig fans aren't one single thing, which is
*way* cool. this 20 year old is a better person
because of amy ray, emily saliers, and every single
one of you on this list, lurker and high-profile
alike! thanks more than you know, ya'll! peace and
love!!

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"part of emily is saying, 'we're working hard, and now you just shot us in the foot.' but i feel like we're shut out of that (rolling stone) anyway, so why not go out in a blaze of glory?" ~amy discussing emily's reaction to "lucystoners".
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subject: meeting ig
> from: "kovacs, mirinda" <mirinda.kovacs@westgroup.com>
> subject: re: summerfest
>
> i wonder if emily just doesn't like
> chatting as much or what?
i had the pleasure of meeting both backstage a red rocks several years back,
and both were terrific. emily was not shy *at all*... amy was much more
reticent. emily was *so* cool... she even arranged to give us backstage
passes for the next night when she found out that we had tix to that show too.
for the full gushy day-after details, click on the backstage pass on my ig
index <<http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo/indigo.html>>.
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hey y'all
i'm somehow a newbit ot the list although i was a member between 1995 and 1998
when i was in business school.
i'm on digest and cannot read/post regularly but i must say this list has
meant a lot to me for a long time. being french, i discovered indigo girls
purely by chance and if not for the list, i wouldn't know so many things,
would never have discovered the wonderful boots and wouldn't have meet many of
the ppl i now consider my closest friends.
i enjoy reading other ppl comments on songs, discussions on ig related topics
and reviews. i must say the reviews and boots from the list literally kept me
'a-live' as far as ig music goes since i had to wait until january to see them
live when i thought i'd never ever see them in europe!
> if someone asked you why you like indigo girls music so much, what
>would you say?
well... when i first started to listen to ig, i was a very shy person and i
was not very open to things around me i think. i was in a field that meant
little to me because it was so fake and not creative. without any over
dramatization, ig music and lyrics changed my life. i learnt to be more
concerned by the world and the ppl in it, to be more open and thus i learnt to
accept myself as i am and to do what i wanted and not what others wanted me to.
i don't know how long it will last but i know that my life would certainly be
radically different if not for 'boy on the side'! so... here's to amy ray and
emily saliers, herbert ross
peace
carla
'when you learn to love yourself, you will dissolve all the stones that are
cast' a. ray
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in a message dated wed, 3 jul 2002 12:32:01 pm eastern standard time, indigo@mindspring.com writes:
> emily was not shy *at all*... amy was much more
> reticent.
yeah, everyone just has different experiences with them. i'm sure there's no real way to generalize about how each of them interacts with fans. it must depend mostly on the circumstances and somewhat on their outlooks in regard to the fan/performer realtionship.
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hello everyone.
i have three extra tickets for each night in seattle, which i will sell in
any combination (1, 2 or 3) for face value ($34.00, i think). if you can do
paypal i can express mail them to you, or we could just meet at the pier and
do it then.
i also have two first row, center section tickets for the portland show. i
can't go after all, i'm sorry to say, and i'd like to see them go to someone
who will appreciate being in the front row. i paid $157.00 for them (not
from a broker, but from a guy that occasionally sells tickets on ebay), but
i am willing to hear offers at this point.
write me if you're interested ....
:)

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not that this is a superstition, but my best friend and i have a tradition.
we live many states away from each other, but the second we get in the car
after picking each other up at the airport, we will have "back together
again" tuned up in our cars. we don't say a word to each other during the
song, we just sing. neither of us will allow ourselves to listen to it
unless we are together.

>from: "diana m. daly" <ddaly5xc@mwc.edu>
>reply-to: "diana m. daly" <ddaly5xc@mwc.edu>
>to: indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org
>subject: ig during flights
>date: tue, 2 jul 2002 15:36:12 -0400
>
>funny that you should say this. i also, in rebellion of the "turn off
>electronic devices during take off/landing" rule, listen to fugitive when
>we are taking off. this is a constant thing for me. i hated flying even
>before the 9-11 situation and now i hate it even more. i go to college in
>va and live in ny, so when i go home, i usually take the delta shuttle,
>which is only a 55 min ride. but regardless, listening to a little ig
>calms my nerves :)
>
>~diana
>
><<< lisalisaa <lisalisaa@earthlink.net> 7/ 2 12:58a >>>
>
>here's my thread contribution: do any ig songs factor into any superstition
>or ritual you have. for instance, i always listen to closer to fine as the
>airplane im a passenger on is either taking off or landing. i dont recall
>how it started but it is now a must for this white-knuckled frequent flyer.
>(and yes, i routinely flout the turn off your cd player rules on takeoffs
>and landings, tho i do keep the volume low enough to be able to hear any
>emergency announcements.)
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hey indigo friends
ok... maybe i'm a little late to this dance but i wanted to add my 2 cents...
as a european fan... i waited forever just to see them play live. but since
last january, i've been able to see them 6 times. it's very funny that you
should mention the different 'attitudes' regarding fans after concerts because
i also noticed a relative shyness from emily towards the fans, whenever she
stops to sign stuff, it's more on the fly and then straight to bus.
just b4 shepherd's bush in january, the die-hard euro fans were waiting around
1 pm and we saw a car stopping by the 'wrong' side of the venue so that the
girls had to cross all the building just in front of us to get to the stage
door. well, i really didn't want to intrude but i really wanted to give them
these tshirts i'd made for them... my sis just pushed me in their direction
and i walked straight to amy because she was already out of the car. i
congratulated them on the paris show and we exchanged a few general sentences
about that and i gave amy her t shirt. all the while emily was waiting for
amy, not really taking part, she just took the tshirt, shook my hand after amy
did quite spontaneously and made a run for the door. i can tell you she was
really nervous about coming back to europe and she was literally shaking...
and it as not from the cold!
after the show when they finally got out, they were both relaxed and very
kind, taking pics w/ ppl, signing and chatting. i even got a big warm smile
out of emily when i asked about the tshirts but even then emily was the first
one into the bus.
then during the back to europe tour that followed, they just waved after the
show. the wonderful sulli told us that they had a long trip and were
exhausted. on the next day though, waiting out in the cold w/ the usual
suspects (u know who u are) in bristol, they started to get in the bus (which
was behind a fence quite a distance from us) and apologize but i took my
chances, brandishing my guitar and asking 'could u sign my guitar please?'.
well... they must have taken pity on me because it was emily who said 'sure'
while amy was still hesitating on the bus steps (before she said 'alright' and
got there to sign it too). we exchanged a few words about playing guitar and
they signed for ppl present (who promised me their 1st newborn ;-) and were off.
after the wolverhampton show the next day, both amy and emily hung out to chat
at length w/ fans. they remembered us from the day before and we even got pics
w/ both of them (<sigh> amy's hand on my shoulder!!) and my sis even got emily
to blush when she told her that she had the greatest voice and should sing
(and play) more bluesy stuff. so i guess it was just one of those rare days
when they were available enough to be both quite responsive... after all it's
not part of their job and we are thankful to them for every precious moment
they are nice enough to share with us!
we were at the same hotel in wolverhampton and we checked in... we heard
amy's wonderful voice asking the clerk for a place to run (in wolverhampton?!)
and the clerk was looking at her like 'those americans... they have to run
anywhere!! :-d and she had wet hair and she looked... (wew let's cool down!!
;-) and we were quite anxious that she'd think we'd follow her there. she just
turned our way after getting her answer from the clerk, she had a 'where do i
know these girls from' look and just smiled and said... 'see you tonight at
the show'!! (like we couldn't be in wolverhampton for anythign else!! ;-)
i'd never would have thought she'd be so 'casual' about it. i honestly
believed she would ignore us and calmy walk back to the elevator (although she
probably got off on the wrong floor on purpose in case we were watching!! ;-)
i just think personality wise that amy is in a way more open to casual
encounters w/ fans than emily is...
just imagine the situation... how would you react?
ok... i didn't mean to ramble for hours on the subject or to brag but i had to
share my experiences on the subject...
still awake? hello? hello? oh guess not!
peace
carla
> you know, i just had to comment. i have bumped into/talked to amy 5 times
> and in all those times i haven't really ever gotten to talk to emily either.
> one time i was at a meet and greet thing so i did get her autograph and got
> to tell her how amazing i thought she was. but that was it. i have a
> million things signed by amy. and each and every time i have hung out after
> a show amy will stop and chat. emily never has. i am also more of an amy
> person so that is okay with me. i wonder if emily just doesn't like
> chatting as much or what? interesting that someone else has had the same
> experiences. and i am not at all saying that emily has ever been rude or
> anything. just more passive. like she will walk right toward the bus and
> just wave, while amy will come on over.

>
> well i think she might be tired or shy (either one is understandably so).
> i don't think of it as being rude either. i'm really grateful that i've
> gotten her autograph twice. but i've been passed by just as many times.
> no biggie, ya know? can't expect them to cater to everyone. :) the way i
> figure it, if she comes out, cool. if she doesn't come out, cool. but the
> times that she has stopped to autograph something she was just as nice as
> can be. :)
>
> peace,
> tracy
> <http://texasyankee.blogspot.com/>
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hi folks,
forwarded from the news list...
cheers,
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here's an approximate setlist from milwaukee, july 1:
bitterroot
get out the map
become you
shame on you
power of two
laramie
collecting you
tried to be true
yield
peace tonight
closer to fine
deconstruction of love
least complicated
moment of forgiveness
chickenman (emily did an acoustic guitar solo in place of the harmonica
stuff)
galileo
encore:
watershed (they dedicated this to mrs. fun, who played earlier that night)
go
they had good energy for this show, despite the sweltering heat. there
wasn't a whole lot of stage banter, but they seemed in good spirits, and
the fans reciprocated. the sing-alongs were great, and a&e thanked us a
couple of times for singing along.
lia and i both agreed that the best songs were the loud rockers (go and
laramie) and the quiet songs with vocal harmonies (collecting,
deconstruction).
i hadn't been keeping up with reading the other reviews, so i didn't notice
amy' braids at first, i thought she had just got a nice shortish haircut.
i must say i'm not partial to them myself, but i'm sure they're more
comfortable in hot weather.
at one point before the show, a small spotlight appeared on the letters
"ar" in the harley-davidson motor cycles logo above the stage. too bad
they didn't notice the "es" at the end of "cycles". it was cute, anyway.
peace,
barb
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hey all,
st. louis was a wonderful show, probably better than i expected. i think
this is the setlist as played, but i welcome any corrections:
bitterroot
shame on you
power of two
become you
you've got to show
reunion
get out the map
laramie
collecting you
yield
least complicated
faye tucker
hope alone
gone again
closer to fine, with lisa loeb
starkville
wood song
go
***encore***
deconstruction
galileo
we sat in the fifth row, which are by far the best seats i've ever had
to ig, or any other concert. i saw them in 1999 at the fox in st. louis and
thought the crowd was much better this time, but i'm sure our seats had a
lot to do with that. our section, which was the first six rows, was up and
dancing for the most part. i didn't hear anyone yell galileo, though someone
else at the show mentioned in a previous post that this happened. that's too
bad...i was telling my husband on the way home how happy i was that no one
was dorky enough to do that, but i guess i spoke too soon. at least i don't
think i heard anyone howling out during the more contemplative, softer
songs. there was a group of drunk, loud people in the first row of the
section behind us who were rather grating. i don't know...i've never been
much of a drinker but why would you want to get boozed up when you can be
sober and enjoy yourself and dance and sing and actually remember it all the
next day?
i enjoyed lisa loeb and she joined ig for closer to fine, though she
looked really overwhelmed when the audience started singing along to her
verse as loud as she was and she kind of gave up and let us finish it...you
could tell amy and emily were very happy to have her there.
i liked their set list...there are always favorites of mine they don't
play, but i like the idea that a set list captures their moods for that day.
reunion was a highlight for me to hear live, as was the wood song. laramie
and faye tucker were also both outstanding, great guitar work by both amy
and emily.
it was a good, full show and they seemed really happy to be there. it
makes me sad that this is the only show on this tour i'll get to see, but
one is better than one, for sure : ) if anyone is on the fence about hitting
a show on this tour, i urge you to go, go, go! you will not regret it.
now, the ever popular, did anyone boot this show? i know it won't be
ready for a while, but knowing that one is out there waiting would make me
very, very happy. security as you entered the venue was light, so i think it
would have been a good show to boot. i'm very curious if those booting the
show had any luck, and i have goodies to offer in trade for a copy.
i'm curious to hear from others who were there...what'd ya think? did
anyone wait around before or after the show and have any luck saying hello?
take it easy,
michelle
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yes, so most people hate eminem. that's not going to stop him from making a s**t load of money. he's done a lot of growing up, and still has to do a lot more.
songs like "square dance", "cleaning out my closet", and "sing for the moment" made me glad a gave the album a listen.
there's more to him than meets the eye, and i only ever fancy gay men.
fury

susannah bell <innersunset@aol.com> wrote: in a message dated 7/3/2002 1:43:53 am pacific daylight time, xophile@charter.net writes:

the indigo girls are sensitive, inspiring and intelligent. eminen is crude
and has nothing positive or intelligent to say and intentionally tries to
offend as many people as possible.

"and there's that faggot-bashing poetry / but the boys are just saying 'love me please' with every hate-filled phrase / they just give themselves away..."
-amy ray
"my insecurities could eat me alive."
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<p>yes, so most people hate eminem.  that's not going to stop him from making a s**t load of money.  he's done a lot of growing up, and still has to do a lot more. 
<p>songs like "square dance", "cleaning out my closet", and "sing for the moment" made me glad a gave the album a listen. 
<p>there's more to him than meets the eye, and i only ever fancy gay men. <img src="<http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys/9.gif>">  
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<blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face=arial,helvetica><font size=2>in a message dated 7/3/2002 1:43:53 am pacific daylight time, xophile@charter.net writes: <br><br><br>
<blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #0000ff 2px solid; margin-right: 0px" type="cite">the indigo girls are sensitive, inspiring and intelligent.  eminen is crude <br>and has nothing positive or intelligent to say and intentionally tries to <br>offend as many people as possible. <br></font><font lang=0 face=arial color=#000000 size=3 family="sansserif"></blockquote><br></font><font lang=0 face=arial color=#000000 size=2 family="sansserif"><br>"and there's that faggot-bashing poetry / but the boys are just saying 'love me please' with every hate-filled phrase / they just give themselves away..." <br><br>-amy ray <br><br>"my insecurities could eat me alive." <br><br>-marshall mathers aka eminem</font> </blockquote></font><p><br><hr size=1><b>do you yahoo!?</b><br>
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mine was the post earlier. i loved the show, but i start work at 4:30 am, so
waiting for them was out of the question this time. we were 7th row on the
right side. i'm glad you didn't hear the weirdos hollering, "galileo!" that
means there is a possibility that a & e didn't either. there always seems to
be at least one...if anyone did boot this show, i'd also be interested in it.
please email me if you have a boot. thanks, everyone.
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i highly recommend that anyone who is not familiar with marcia ball to
definitely check her out if she is playing with the ig. she is one of austin,
texas's best artists.
gram
quoting amy l clements <amyloretta@juno.com>:
> i e-mailed xrt and asked them - no reply. i can't tell if ig are
> headlining, or if marcia ball is.
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i have three tickets to the portland ig show on july 11. my sister has them,
so i'm not sure what the exact seats are, but they are at the front end of
the mezzanine. the cost is in the $30-35 range, i have to check for sure.
sorry to be so vague, but she keeps forgetting to give me the specifics.
email me if you are interested and i hope to have the details about the
tickets today.
peace,
laura
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hey gang--
my buddy rhondda has an extra in section b, row 1, seat 10.
seating chart here:
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please contact here directly at rlashby@townsend.com
thank you and see you at the show!!
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musicians join yucca mountain protest
chicago (ap) - the stars came out to protest a plan to store the nation's
nuclear waste in nevada. not many others did, though.
six protesters wearing identical t-shirts and carrying signs denouncing the
proposed yucca mountain storage facility were joined wednesday by members of
the indigo girls, the b-52s and midnight oil.
the bands, which were in town for concerts wednesday and thursday, came out
to urge the u.s. senate to strike down a plan to store all the nation's
nuclear waste in south-central nevada. the u.s. house of representatives
approved a similar measure in may.
although the proposed storage site lies almost 2,000 miles away from
illinois, the plan will affect the state.
the concentration of reactors on the east coast, the large number of active
reactors in illinois, and the state's role as a transportation hub means that
about 80 percent of the 72,000 tons of highly radioactive nuclear waste to be
stored in yucca mountain will come through the state.
emily saliers of the indigo girls said she speaks out on these issues in the
hope that her star power will reach people who otherwise would not think
about the dangers of nuclear waste transportation and storage.
''it's been astonishing to me that such horrible public policy could be
passed without many people knowing about it,'' saliers said.
peter garrett, singer for the australian group midnight oil, said citizens
should be able to vote on whether they want a nuclear storage facility in
their back yard.
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i had never met ig till the past couple of years or so and everyone who i had
ever talked to who had met them before, mostly said that emily is always so
sweet & amy can be a "crap shoot" sometimes she is very friendly and other
times she can be very aloof. i have met them a few times since, and i
personally found it to be just the opposite. emily has never been rude to me,
but amy has been really cool very talkative and so graicious, and so thankful
to us for coming to the shows. the first couple of times i met emily she was
very dismissive, but we met them again in boston in march after the show at
the paradise, and they were both so cool, they talked and joked w/ everyone
there they signed a bunch of stuff and posed for a ton of pictures, so maybe
just like everyone in the world it depends on how they feel, if they are
having a bad or if they just plain feel like "going home after work". i am a
chef, and if everytime i stepped out of the kitchen there was a line of
people there asking me "what i put in my alfredo sauce" i think i would jump
under a bus, so i totally understand those "not so fresh days" lol!!!
take care,
janet
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>janet wrote (in part, snipped)
> so maybe
>just like everyone in the world it depends on how they feel, if they are
>having a bad or if they just plain feel like "going home after work". i am a
>chef, and if everytime i stepped out of the kitchen there was a line of
>people there asking me "what i put in my alfredo sauce" i think i would jump
>under a bus, so i totally understand those "not so fresh days" lol!!!
i just had to reply and point out that this is probably the best comment on
this whole thread. i laughed out loud and i think you are 100% on the nose.
very exceptionally good point.
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not to be a freaky astrology person, but emily's a cancer and i think cancers
have a tendancy to be kind of moody, have a mercurial (sp) temperment and
all. amy's an aries. aries are a bit more consistant in their temperment.
just another idea.
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what fun to see ig in grant park this evening playing a free show with the
chicago skyline as a backdrop. it was beautiful and the heat of the day
seemed to simmer down just in time. this may have been my most laid back
show ever. i sat on a blanket with friends way way back and just listened.
after 38 shows, it's amazing how enjoyable not rushing up front or going
crazy with seats and good angles can be. i highly recommend it for your
next outdoor concert.
the girls played a decent set considering we knew it would not be a full
length concert. they even complimented midnight oil for whom they followed
on stage. never thought i'd see ig with them on the same bill. i wish i
had more details about what they wore or how they looked but i honestly was
so far back that i never saw them. there was definitely a huge crowd on
hand and most seemed pretty into the show. girls were peppy and
appreciative of the usual sing-a-long areas of songs.
here's a list of what was played from memory and not in the right order
(sorry, not exactly my best review ever) :)
bitterroot
power of two
get out the map
become you
yield
tried to be true
closer to fine (with guest appearance by lisa loeb and a chicago musician
whose name i can't remember--not kelly hogan)
virginia woolf
shame on you
least complicated
laramie
our deliverance (prefaced by emily talking about independence, peace and
july 4th--similar to what she said at 1st radio city show)
galileo
encore
go

i think that covers it. sorry so lame but this is what happens when you
just sit back and take in the music with all its surroundings. what a great
day in chicago!--greg
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when i met emily, it was back in november of '97. russel had already come over to the crowd waiting to catch a glimpse of the girls. he said the band was all coming down with something and we might as well go home because they were not allowing them to talk to anyone. we said ok but we stayed anyway. when a & e came out, we all yelled and waived. amy didn't say anything. she just quickly waived and got on the bus. emily came over to us. she was very sweet. she was adorable, carrying a great big sunflower! she told us she was going to "get in trouble" for coming over and could not sign any autographs. there was a girl w/ a guitar who wanted emily to sign it really bad. she begged her. emily asked if the rest of us would be mad at her if she signed just this one autograph. we said, "of course not!" she signed the guitar, shook my hand, thanked everyone and apologized profusely for not being able to stay and chat, but told us amy had the flu and the rest of the band did not feel well either. she was abosolutely wonderful. i never met amy, so i don't know about her demeanor, but emily was great!
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hi list.
i don't post too much but i wanted to chime in on this. better late than
never, i guess.
why do i love ig? well, there are a lot of reasons. i discovered them by
going to neil young's solo acoustic tour in 1989. they opened for him and i
have never, ever been so mesmerized by an opening act before (or since). i
bought the self-titled cd the next day. the lyrics just blew me away (i am
lyrics fixated; if the lyrics are good i can put up with bad voice and bad
music) and the harmonies were angelic. add to that some great acoustic
guitar, and i was just hooked and salivating for more. the show was only
several days before i graduated highschool, and when i moved up to cornell
in august, the girls came too. all through college they released fantastic
cds and i saw them on the cornell campus twice. i met them at a record
signing on the day i like to think of as my coming out (i read a poem about
my first homosexual experience in my creative writing class that day). i
think of indigo girls as the soundtrack to my college years.
oh, and speaking of ig rituals, whenever i return to upstate ny to visit
friends, i have to play the self-titled cd at least once on the trip. i
usually put it on just as i hit the garden state parkway, as that to me
signals the trip has really begun.
an indigo weirdness: for some time my break-ups seemed timed to indigo girls
releases. nomads, swamp ophelia, and rites of passage all came out within a
week of splitting up with someone. my memories of those cds are sort of
colored by this, and that has lead me to listen to nomads only very
infrequently. it actually became a joke among my friends with them saying
something like "there hasnt' been an ig cd in a while. why don't you go get
dumped, tom?" the cycle was broken when i was splitting with a real psycho
in 1996. thankfully, tori amos released boys for pele, which filled the
indigo gap that time. i must confess to being a slightly bigger tori amos
fan than i am an indigo girls fan, but ig are my #2. also, strange fire is
my all-time favorite song forever!
well, that's all why i love the indigo girls.
hope everyone had a safe and happy 4th.
tom
"all the carnage of my journeys
makes it harder to be livin'
he said, 'it's a long road to be forgiven."
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>so much of their music seems to be about how hard it can be to live a
>conscious life -- to feel the pain of loss, of injustice -- and yet what
>transcendence and joy comes from that very same awareness.
yes! that's it! they wrestle constantly with the bittersweet contradictions
that life is composed of. "devotion," "leaving," and "wood song" are more
examples of this. they discuss the tension between the agony and ecstasy of
life and how those two feelings flow from each other. as neil gaiman
(perhaps my favorite author) says in brief lives, "there are two sides to
every coin."
tom
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makes it harder to be livin'
he said, 'it's a long road to be forgiven."
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date: fri, 5 jul 2002 10:29:23 -0500
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greg gave you a great review from the back. here's mine from near the front: i got to the taste around 11am and got in line. around noon someone from wxrt distributed tickets to everyone waiting in line and told us we would be the first to enter the seating area. i asked some kind people to watch my stuff and went to get some water and food. when i got back, the line had moved a half block away around the corner! i was upset because the people near me had misunderstood and had not moved. so i asked some people who had been behind me if i could line up behind them and they nicely let me back in. but it is totally frustrating when organizers do stuff like that without letting you know ahead of time! luckily i still got a great seat: fifth row center (the first two rows were behind those metal barriers and were reserved for photographers).
marcia ball rocked. she played her blues for about an hour. then midnight oil came on. they, too, played a high energy set. the lead singer (peter garrett) and the guitar player had shirts with no nuke stuff on them. peter was very eloquent in talking about the yucca mtn. vote and urging us to call our senators to tell them to vote "no"! amy later asked us to do the same before playing "go" and complimented the people of illinois for being great activists and for having a death penalty moratorium in this state.
amy and the guy from their entourage who's got a lot of tattoos walked around from backstage to sit in the photographer's section to watch midnight oil's set. i was glad she felt comfortable enough to do that until some fan ruined the moment by asking her to sign something. i think we should really leave emily and amy alone when they're trying to enjoy shows. they become part of the audience and do not want to be bothered. i overheard someone else say that amy angrily told that fan something like, "do you realize midnight oil is playing right now?" she still enjoyed the music though and even caught a drumstick that the drummer threw her!
as for fashion, she was wearing light blue and white pinstripe pants, an orange shirt and had her hair down while she was sitting in front of the stage. onstage she wore the same pants, a red, white and blue t-shirt that had a big marilyn monroe type drawing on the front and had her hair in braids. emily had on jeans, a t-shirt and another shirt on over the t-shirt...sorry, can't remember the colors.
the set was great. i think they were pleasantly surprised to see so many of us sing along. they smiled a lot. a big midnight oil fan sitting near me commented in shock: "they rock!" you betcha, baby! i sang, stood and danced the whole set. everyone in the front stood and danced from what i could see. the chicago singer they brought out with lisa loeb to do ctf was cathy richardson. she just sang the chorus whereas lisa sang the third verse.
i agree with greg about the day: it was a great way to spend the 4th in chicago. the set was short, but very, very sweet!
peace...and don't forget to call your senators! no nukes!
michele

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did anyone happen to record wxrt's broadcast of ig in chicago yesterday?
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it's very late right now, so i'll just post the setlist...as written...(
i hung out after the show about two hours.)
1.bitter root
2.ozilline
3.you've got to show
4. shame on you
5. power of two
6. become you
7 get out the map
8. faye tucket
9. watershed
10.moment of forgiveness
11.closer to fine
12.yield
13. collecting you
14. laramie
15. least complicated
16. chickenman
17. virginia woolf
18. starkville
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19 galileo
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20 she's saving me
21. go
it's very lated and i forgot to add the above
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and chickenma goes before virginia woolf.
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howdy ya'll,
well, i went and did somethin' stupid. how many
letters start out that way?... i digress. the stupid
thing was i responded to a very nice lady on this list
who said she could send me some bumper stickers if i
sent an envelope and four dollars and i took her up on
it and then i lost her address! it's been a coupla
weeks and i just wanted to check up on things, so
ma'am, you know who you are, lemme know how you're
doin', k? i'd really appreciate it! peace and love, ya'll!
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hi everyone!
i was bummed that ig came to philly while i was out in california for
vacation, but the memory of the february concert still lights a smile on my
face (thanks neil! :) ).
last week, this ig moment happened:
so here i am, suffering from indigo girls' withdrawal (without knowing it),
and i'm working away at the office, writing notes. i find myself humming to
the muzack that is playing in the background, and start laughing because i
realize it is "peace tonight". oh, it was nice to be reminded of my "roots"
again.
and a plug for my friend and former listmember:
shelley miller, has her debut cd out called "tear me down". check her out
at: <http://www.shelleymiller.net/>
this list and its members are an incredible social circle. even when i
moved from california out to harrisburg, pa, people (you know who you are)
recommended concerts, etc. to me. and through this list, like most of you,
we've met many other devotees and have indulged in many kindnesses, as well
as spreading the love around.
have a great summer, y'all!
a four-year listmember and counting,
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i have some friends that won't be making it in from out of town for the
seattle pier shows, so i need to try and sell their tickets. i have 2
for each night. they'd like to get face which is $34 each. they'll take
the loss on the fees. email to sburk@attbi.com. thanks!

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hey gang. is anybody out there a die-hard disney
world fan? i'm looking for an expert to give me
some tips on an upcoming vacation. if you're a
slave-to-the-mouse, and can help me plan, please
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hello
i was wondering if anyone booted the 6/14 chastain park show or knows
where i can get a copy.
thanks for your help
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hey everyone,
i'm crawling out of lurkdom for a brief moment...
i was wondering what the deal is at the pier concerts with cameras and =
recorders. is it ok to bring a camera and/or to boot the show (how =
tight is security)? i've seen ig at the pier once before, and i was =
able to take photos all right, but i've heard that different people have =
different experiences. what do you reccommend??
as for the current thread at the moment - why do i love the girls so =
much... i have to say that i have the utmost respect for them as =
musicians, and also as people. obviously i don't know them in their =
personal lives, but as far as their public personas go, i find them to =
be thoughtful, intelligent, good people, and i agree with their =
political views. i find that their music is a spiritual experience that =
some people just seem to be able to tune into and connect with it. i =
love the a community that has developed in result of the music, a =
community of kind, interesting people like yourselves. also personally =
i feel that ig has helped me through some difficult times in my life, =
providing insight and inspiration to me. ig also paved the road to =
myself accepting and learning to take pride in my sexuality, so i also =
thank them for that.
right now, i'm having a hard time dealing with my little sister, who has =
decided that she likes the girls. i feel a bit selfish to say this, but =
i feel like i don't want to have to share with her, as i don't feel =
connected to her at all. i don't see how she can possibly understand =
the depth and meaning of my relationship with the music of these two =
women, and i feel violated because she is touching something that is =
vitally important to me. i don't get along with her very well, we are =
quite distant from each other. i know that usually i am eager to share =
my love for ig with other people, it just seems that i have a mental =
block with sharing with my sister. i guess this is being a bit =
possessive, but she is constantly bothering me wanting to borrow my ig =
cds, she is one of those people who refuses to spend money on anything, =
and she never returns what she borrows. she also plays music loudly at =
all times of day and night. i find it difficult to deal with this: i =
have to be in a certain mood to listen to certain ig songs, as i =
associate them with certain feelings that i don't always want to think =
about. for example, blood and fire is not the best thing to hear =
sometimes. plus, it's just weird hearing your 15-year old (straight, as =
far as i know) kid sister tell you that amy ray is hot. i don't know =
what i can do about it. =20
well, thanks for listening, i'd love to hear any advice that y'all might =
have.
see you in seattle!!
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hey everyone,
i'm crawling out of lurkdom for a brief moment...
i was wondering what the deal is at the pier concerts with cameras and recorders. is it ok to bring a camera and/or to boot the show (how tight is security)? i've seen ig at the pier once before, and i was able to take photos all right, but i've heard that different people have different experiences. what do you reccommend??
as for the current thread at the moment - why do i love the girls so much... i have to say that i have the utmost respect for them as musicians, and also as people. obviously i don't know them in their personal lives, but as far as their public personas go, i find them to be thoughtful, intelligent, good people, and i agree with their political views. i find that their music is a spiritual experience that some people just seem to be able to tune into and connect with it. i love the a community that has developed in result of the music, a community of kind, interesting people like yourselves. also personally i feel that ig has helped me through some difficult times in my life, providing insight and inspiration to me. ig also paved the road to myself accepting and learning to take pride in my sexuality, so i also thank them for that.
right now, i'm having a hard time dealing with my little sister, who has decided that she likes the girls. i feel a bit selfish to say this, but i feel like i don't want to have to share with her, as i don't feel connected to her at all. i don't see how she can possibly understand the depth and meaning of my relationship with the music of these two women, and i feel violated because she is touching something that is vitally important to me. i don't get along with her very well, we are quite distant from each other. i know that usually i am eager to share my love for ig with other people, it just seems that i have a mental block with sharing with my sister. i guess this is being a bit possessive, but she is constantly bothering me wanting to borrow my ig cds, she is one of those people who refuses to spend money on anything, and she never returns what she borrows. she also plays music loudly at all times of day and night. i find it difficult to deal with this: i have to be in a certain mood to listen to certain ig songs, as i associate them with certain feelings that i don't always want to think about. for example, blood and fire is not the best thing to hear sometimes. plus, it's just weird hearing your 15-year old (straight, as far as i know) kid sister tell you that amy ray is hot. i don't know what i can do about it.
well, thanks for listening, i'd love to hear any advice that y'all might have.
see you in seattle!!
wistaria
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hey,
i am flying up to portland from san francisco for the portland show.
question: how far is the airport from downtown? is there public
transportation from the airport to the city center (where the show is) or
will i have to rely on cabs?
thanks in advance.
see some of you at the berkeley and portland shows.
:-) karen
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hey,

i am flying up to portland from san francisco for the portland show. question: how far is the airport from downtown? is there public transportation from the airport to the city center (where the show is) or will i have to rely on cabs?

thanks in advance.

see some of you at the berkeley and portland shows.

:-) karen

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ok. . .
i am sending this to all of you because i know there has to be someone else
who is coming up.
ok
i just got kicked off so i am perturbed and i will try to answer this
nicely.
a system called trimet is the public transportation system.
here is the url www.trimet.org <http://www.trimet.org/> you can find all info on it, but i will
continue
there is a trainlike thing called max. you can take max from downtown to
airport. make sure you get on the red line. very important!
you can catch max at the far end of the airport by alaskan airlines.
i am not sure about the times as in how late max runs, but it should run
every 15 mins.
there isn't that much trouble on it so you should be fine.
i unfortuantly am not going, but i could meet you and make sure you get to
your hotel/motel room if that is needed.
i also wonder if i could make a deal with ya which is that you could get me
a shirt if they are under 10 dollars. i doubt, but it wouldn't bad to look.
let me know if there is anything further.
kris

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hey,
i am flying up to portland from san francisco for the portland show.
question: how far is the airport from downtown? is there public
transportation from the airport to the city center (where the show is) or
will i have to rely on cabs?
thanks in advance.
see some of you at the berkeley and portland shows.
:-) karen
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-- emily saliers, indigo girls
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-- amy ray, indigo girls
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so like someone who is overwhelmed by the email that i recieve, i am
replying.
i am on too many lists or lets say 4 and ig (this one) i at one time got 40
a day. i look at my mail and then go on not really going through it.
i am a lurker partly because, i have never been to a concert. i can give a
million reasons why, but i know one of these days i will have the courage to
do so. i am like the lion in the wizard of oz.
no i have like their music since atleast 1999 (when i was a tyke. i am now
legal as one can get now)
so maybe i will spout off that i have always been into the music as in the
instrumental part of ig compared to the lyrics. especially in so. i would
love to discuss the theory behind the music in that one album. i say that
because people have disagreed with me on this one album.
so if someone would like to discuss whether so has something to do with the
holocost let me know and i will go off and back myself up.
i hope i have behaved myself. i haven't posted in what seems like ages.
god bless
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hey all!
> so if someone would like to discuss whether so has something to do
> with the holocost let me know and i will go off and back myself up.
well, in this train revised it's pretty much in your face, i think:
"piss and blood
in a railroad car
100 people
gypsies queers
and david's star"
---> mainly jews but also homosexuals were transported in trains to the
various kzs (um, what are they called in english? concentration
camps, i believe)
"measure the bones
count the face
pull out the teeth
do you belong
to the human race"
---> it was common practice to extract the gold teeth from the skulls of
the bodies, simply to turn them into money later on...
"doctor doctor
are you unkind"
---> i believe on entering a concentration camp the people were
subjected to an examination by a "doctor" and he decided whether they
were strong enough to work in the camp (digging graves...) or were too
weak and were gonna be killed pretty much right away... the "are you
unkind" question, i think, refers to the perversity of the situation: a
doctor, someone who's supposed to heal people, condemning them to
their deaths
"these are the questions
stacked like wood"
---> this might not be referring to anything anymore, really but i always
see an image of a pile of bodies or a pile of bones when i hear these
lines... because those images always have an awful resemblance to
piles of wood assembled for a bonfire or something
i never examined the other songs on so for holocaust content, though.
kathrin
ps as (almost) always, apologies to everyone whom i haven't written to
in a while, bear with me, you're not forgotten...:)
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the show was an average ig performance, with a lot of rebel-rousing
songs, and though
amy looks cute in braids, i prefer the long, shaggy, mop-top.... i loved
watching it fly all over, making her look like she's more into the
song....and i have a penchant for long hair!

i loved all the music they did, but i don't know if it was me or the
sound people, or the accoustics? i'm very good at hearing the words, but
this time i noticed that the words weren't as distinct as usual, and
emily's voice sounded a little higher.
i don't know maybe the state theater isn't as
good as the orpheum soundwise....it almost sounded like northrop. the
music and the band meshed with the words. but i was about 20
feet from the stage (amy's side.) and about fifteen feet away from the
speakers....so that could be it too...
did anybody else have the same experience?
i caught the part amy mentioned she'd been riding her bike that morning
and she came aross a fight, so she tried to intervene and was told that
they had broken off, and were getting steamed up for the next round
.....so wanting to be a "good citizen," she dialed 9-1-1. by the time
she finished they all dispersed ....she was alittle humiliated....(i
know the feeling! i've done that too.)
i loved her kilt, and the pants were good too. someone on the bbs
mentioned those were "bondage pants " can someone please tell me what
bondage pants are? and what thy look like?
i enjoyed watershed immensely! i've been to every show they've done in
minneapolis since 1994, not once have they ever done any song from
nis!!!
it was so nice to hear that picking..it mimiks
the rain! i imagine water running out of a gutter! it was so
beauteeeful.(yes it was!)
oh, and remember the thread we had going a few months ago about people
who intentionally block someone's view ?
it finally happened to me ......(i hope the person who was in front of
me is on this list reading it.) i was in row e seat twelve.
the whole audience in general was seated for a few songs...i have a very
bad back and i kept having to sit down at least once throughout every
song.... and during one of those "quiet songs?" two people in front
knowingly blocked my view.....
i really wanted to see, so i politely tapped one of them to get
attention and they turned around. i politely stated,"everyone else is
sitting, and i need to sit. would you please sit down?" of course it was
very difficult to talk to mark who was seated next to me, let alone the
stranger infront. so i gestured to them by pointing to the people around
me.
she gestured me to ask everyone else to stand up...i thought "oh
great.....there are a lot of people behind me and they want to sit..if i
stand i block their view,if i sit i can't see!!! and there's no room to
move! what do i do?"
i bit the bullet and said nothing more to them..
i just told mark, "that is so inconsiderate.
it just bugs me."
so if you are one of those kinds of people please consider the people
behind you ,
i felt like such a jerk about standing and blocking the people in front
so i could see.
please don't force me to have to make that kind of a decision again.
that said! i hung out for three hours after th show waiting for the
girls, but later we were told by sulli that they left right away...like
right after go.
but i met two very, very nice people. and we chat the whole time.
so... anyhow...have a nice day everyone.
and maybe i'll see you fans from san francisco in berkely this friday.
peace
barb
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hey all!
> i loved her kilt, and the pants were good too. someone on the bbs
> mentioned those were "bondage pants " can someone please tell me what
> bondage pants are? and what thy look like?
thanks to some research by this list's very own claudine l., i can shed
some light on this. had no idea what those pants looked like either...
<http://www.poseur.net/bondagepants/fabrics.html>
there ya go:).
kathrin
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"maybe all that we need is to meet in the middle of impossibility."
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hey,
kathrin-
i have found it in other songs. also just look at the cover and how they
are there in one second and gone on the back side.
these are just concepts ideas ponders

"fugitive"
hiding concept- "got to get burned" when talking about baby as in
girlfriend. "hiding yourself for me"
in this they also talk about kissing the ground and being free. it is to me
as though they are running from the gates. "i stood without clothes danced
in the sand i was aching with freedom kissing the damned"
"least complicated"
the concept of falling in love and it was either because one was jew or
something else or both dykes but they can't be together for some reason.
actually this seems more dykes, but you could see it the other way.
"language or the kiss"
this reminds me of a concept when a member of a jewish family is taken by
the gestapo.
i am leaving giving this a rest.
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there is a great deal of overt and intentional holocaust imagery on so,
mostly on this train, and the layers of the complexities are not trival -
on the pre-release tape- the choplin music box part wasn't in it -
choplin was forbidden in nazi germany -
www.lifeblood.net <http://www.lifeblood.net/> should have some interviews from 1994 where amy says the
song came from seeing the holocaust museum, it is pretty intense stuff.
mike r.
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