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date:         wed, 15 jan 2003 09:55:27 -0800
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hi all,
apologies for the off topic post, but i know there are a few pro-choicers
on this list. i need your help. here's the scoop:

some groups i'm involved with on campus here at oregon state university
need your support if
you're pro-choice. please agree to have your name appear in the ad we're
sponsoring in the school paper (barometer). if you know any other
pro-choicers, please pass this along. it's urgent that we get as many
signatures as we can.

thanks!
-bon

* * * * * *

osu students for choice, the women's center, and the womyns affairs task
force are compiling a list of names for an ad which will appear in the
barometer on wednesday, january 21st, 3003. the ad will be in celebration
of the 30th anniversary of roe v. wade, the landmark ruling which made
abortion safe and legal in this country. deadline for your name to appear
in the ad is tomorrow, jan. 16!

as some of you may have heard, the college republicans plan to erect
hundreds of white crosses of the lawn during this day in opposition to a
woman's right to choose.

we desperately need to make it public that a woman's right to choose is
vital to the status of women in this country. if you would like your name
included in the ad as someone who supports a
woman's right to choose please email jocelyn at warrejoc@onid.orst.edu or
visit http://www.onid.orst.edu/~warrejoc/ for details.

please pass along this email to your friends!

thank you.

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date:         wed, 15 jan 2003 12:42:39 -0600
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hello all! i have many boots that i don't have cover art for. now i know
that several of them simply don't exist, however i know several of them do.
neil has a few on his site, but i know there are tons more. does anyone
else have them on their web sites?
thanks for any help you can offer.

-mi rinda

by the way, on someone's site it is pointing out bogus ig "boots" that are
just a bunch of mp3's thrown together.  anyway, one of them state that ig
never played with siouxie (however that is spelled) & the banshees.  however
one of my boots does have them playing with at least siouxie.  it is clearly
amy's voice introducing her.  so is this some doctored song to make it
appear as if they were together?  i am pretty sure, though my memory has
failed me before, that the song they play together is something wicked this
way comes.  any answers to this?

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date:         wed, 15 jan 2003 13:55:06 -0500
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<<does anyone else have them on their web sites?>>

depends on which ones you're looking for :)

<<however one of my boots does have them playing with at least siouxie. it
is clearly amy's voice introducing her.>>

it could have happened (and probably did, if you have a tape!), but a quick
search of lifeblood.net shows brings up nothing.

neil
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date:         wed, 15 jan 2003 14:01:28 -0500
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<<<<however one of my boots does have them playing with at least siouxie.
it
is clearly amy's voice introducing her.>>

it could have happened (and probably did, if you have a tape!), but a quick
search of lifeblood.net shows brings up nothing.>>

i take that back... siouxie played on these dates. (a couple of the banshees
were in the ig band, right?) but the setlists imply that soiouxie sang alone
on all except the 12-5 date. i could be wrong though.

1992/12/05: bates college - lewiston, maine
1992/12/08: the palace theater - new haven, conneticut
1992/12/11: the tower theater - philadelphia, pennsylvania
1992/12/13: kuhl gym - geneseo, new york
1992/12/14: shea's performing arts center - buffalo, new york
1992/12/15: the palace theater - cleveland, ohio

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date:         wed, 15 jan 2003 15:22:12 -0500
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does anyone know about the "life for lyrics" tabernacle show in march?

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date:         wed, 15 jan 2003 23:25:13 +0100
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hi,
i have the 15/12/92 boot with siouxie and the ig playing together.

at first siouxie is singing lead on one of her own tracks with the ig on
backing vocals and then
ig & siouxie are performing "strange fruit" by billie holliday together.

hope that helps...

robert

>from: "neil :o)" <neil@andineil.com>
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>date: wed, 15 jan 2003 14:01:28 -0500
>
><<<<however one of my boots does have them playing with at least siouxie.
>it
>is clearly amy's voice introducing her.>>
>
>it could have happened (and probably did, if you have a tape!), but a quick
>search of lifeblood.net shows brings up nothing.>>
>
>i take that back... siouxie played on these dates. (a couple of the
>banshees
>were in the ig band, right?) but the setlists imply that soiouxie sang
>alone
>on all except the 12-5 date. i could be wrong though.
>
>1992/12/05: bates college - lewiston, maine
>1992/12/08: the palace theater - new haven, conneticut
>1992/12/11: the tower theater - philadelphia, pennsylvania
>1992/12/13: kuhl gym - geneseo, new york
>1992/12/14: shea's performing arts center - buffalo, new york
>1992/12/15: the palace theater - cleveland, ohio
>
>neil
>@}--,--'--
>
>coming soon to our house concert series:
>january 25th: nancy falkow, amber delaurentis,
> christine havrilla and colleen mcfarland(!)
>www.sixthst.com
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date:         wed, 15 jan 2003 17:41:03 -0500
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at 01:55 pm 1/15/03 -0500, neil :o) wrote:
><<does anyone else have them on their web sites?>>
>
>depends on which ones you're looking for :)
>
><<however one of my boots does have them playing with at least siouxie. it
>is clearly amy's voice introducing her.>>

12-5-92 bates college - she did play with them and reheared the first time
that afternoon - all of which is on tape

and yes neil - i know - i am the worst tape trader in the world - i just
need to get my butt to a post office - everything is done...

mjr

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denver post, 1/15/03

cu expert was key to ill. decision
by howard pankratz
denver post legal affairs writer

wednesday, january 15, 2003 - a colorado-based national expert on the death
penalty played a critical role in the research that led to former illinois
gov. george ryan's blanket commutation of illinois death row inmates.

the university of colorado's michael radelet spent nearly three years
gathering and analyzing statistics about illinois' death row inmates and
their victims and preparing a comprehensive study for the illinois
governor's commission on capital punishment.

"he did outstanding work," said matt bettenhausen, deputy governor of
illinois and executive director of the commission.

bettenhausen said radelet was able to create an extensive central inventory
of statistics about illinois murderers and victims where none existed
before. to do so, said the deputy governor, radelet compiled data from
federal sources, the illinois state police and local police departments and
prosecutors.

"he did an extraordinary job in not only collecting the information but
then preparing a comprehensive report looking at what factors may or may
not influence the sentence to death here in illinois," said bettenhausen, a
former prosecutor in the u.s. attorney's office in chicago.

radelet is associate chair of cu's department of sociology, having arrived
at cu from the university of florida about a year ago.

in florida, radelet pioneered studies of the death penalty, including a
1981 study showing that in florida, if a black person killed a white
stranger, he was three times more likely to be sentenced to death than a
black who killed a black stranger.

in 1987, radelet and co-author hugo adam bedau published a study in the
stanford law review that examined the cases of 350 people convicted of
murder in the united states who were innocent. of those, 139 were sentenced
to death and 23 were executed.

both bettenhausen and tom sullivan, co-chair of ryan's commission, said
radelet was recruited by the commission.

"he has beautiful credentials. he does very fine work," said sullivan, who
was u.s. attorney in chicago from 1977 to 1981.

radelet teamed with glenn pierce, a professor at northeastern university in
boston, to produce a massive report for ryan's commission.

their study showed that there was no rhyme or reason when illinois
prosecutors would seek the death penalty. two people with similar criminal
records could commit almost identical murders, but prosecutors might seek
death in one case but not the other.

the study also showed that the odds of a death sentence in illinois are 60
percent lower for those who kill black victims than those who kill white
victims.

and the study also found that if you committed a murder in chicago, you
were 84 percent less likely to receive the death penalty than if you killed
in a rural area.

radelet said ryan was troubled that so many on illinois' death row didn't
commit the crimes they were convicted of.

but radelet said ryan was equally bothered by the disparities he and pierce
uncovered.

"he (ryan) came to a decision to not only look at the innocence issue, but
also look at the issues of racial and regional disparities," said radelet.

radelet, who visited ryan and bettenhausen on numerous occasions, said ryan
felt he had no choice but to issue a blanket commutation.

howard pankratz can be reached at hpankratz@denverpost.com or 303-820-1939.

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january 15, 2003

indigo girl to bring new punk sound to cat's cradle

by ashley harrell
staff writer

january 15, 2003

when indigo girl amy ray wakes up in the morning, the first thing she
thinks about isn't being a role model for millions
but feeding her cats.

she's housed as many as 10 stray cats at once, one of many quirks that
sets her apart from most rock stars.

"i don't feel famous," she says. but she is famous -- just ask the
devoted and drunken fans who requested her autograph
on their bare butts at a concert.

when people hear the name amy ray, the indigo girls immediately come to
mind, but that might change. she has set
harmonizing aside for now and picked up an electric guitar and a punk
band.

thursday night, cat's cradle will witness her metamorphosis firsthand.
having played in chapel hill on several occasions
since 1985, she looks forward to the performance.

"i grew up playing in chapel hill -- great scene," ray said.

now touring with durham's the butchies and bringing rock from her new
album stag to the people, ray is exploring a
more "sweaty and organic" music style.

although setting up all her equipment can be tiring, ray said she enjoys
the younger crowds and smaller rock clubs -- a
truly raw experience.

a few years after the indigo girls signed with epic records, ray created
her own independent label, daemon records, to
help young musicians build names for themselves.

"i didn't want to let go of the independent community," she said.

disliking "the struggle over art as a commodity," ray believes
creativity is lost thanks to big-name labels in "the
bastardizing machine" -- her alias for the music industry.

she did not expect to produce her own album through daemon -- but songs
she wrote that did not fit the indigo mold
began to accumulate. that pile of songs became stag.

a forceful and poignant collection of mostly punk songs, stag was
written in collaboration with various artists who
inspired ray, including the butchies and rock*a*teens.

the album deals mainly with the imposed standards of gender, problems
ray has with the music business and her own
shortcomings.

she said she often notices weaknesses in other people that she later
recognizes as her own. in addition to her humility,
ray also knows how to laugh at herself.

"once when i was opening for neil young, i ran out on the stage trying
to look cool and fell down the stairs," she
recalled. she also remembers hitting herself in the face with the
microphone.

even though she has a sense of humor, ray is serious about female
activism.

in the song "lucy stoners (don't need boners)," ray indicts rolling
stone editor-in-chief jan wenner for his unequal
treatment of male and female rock stars and praises lucy stoner, the
first married female to retain her last name.

emily saliers, the other half of the indigo girls, playfully disapproved
when she heard that tune, but ray said saliers has
been really supportive of stag and eventually might do her own solo
record.

in addition to breaking off from the indigo girls, ray also has split
recently from her girlfriend of five years.

"we had a great relationship, and i learned so much," she said. "but
there is something to be said for being alone." ray
enjoys the extra time to fix up her house, get back in touch with
friends who she "let slide" and pursue her music.

ray might not be single for long though, already having received a
letter from a 93-year-old woman attempting to fix her
up with her granddaughter.

ray found the gesture endearing but also said she is "starting to enjoy
being single."

although she has established herself as a rocker, ray shows no intention
of turning in her indigo girl uniform.

the band has one more album to deliver in its record deal with epic, but
for now, ray continues to explore her punk side.

tickets for ray's transformation at the cradle are $8. doors open at 8
p.m.

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ok, did amy break up with her current gf, or is that
old news? this article had a lot of old info presented
as new info.

i'm just curious, not thinking i have a chance here,
btw! yes, amy ray makes me weak at the knees, but who
can compete with a yenta grandma?

susan

--- diane <dweiden@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> january 15, 2003
>
> indigo girl to bring new punk sound to cat's cradle

> in addition to breaking off from the indigo girls,
> ray also has split recently from her girlfriend of
five years.

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<<ok, did amy break up with her current gf, or is that old news?>>

gee, from the article, i'm assuming they mean jennifer
baumgardner.....afterall, didn't they get
together in like 1998?

barb

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at first i thought this was an article back from when stag was first
released, but then again amy and the butchies *are* set to play cat's cradle
tonight.

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> sent: wednesday, january 15, 2003 8:14 pm
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>
>
> ok, did amy break up with her current gf, or is that
> old news? this article had a lot of old info presented
> as new info.
>
> i'm just curious, not thinking i have a chance here,
> btw! yes, amy ray makes me weak at the knees, but who
> can compete with a yenta grandma?
>
> susan
>
> --- diane <dweiden@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > january 15, 2003
> >
> > indigo girl to bring new punk sound to cat's cradle
>
> > in addition to breaking off from the indigo girls,
> > ray also has split recently from her girlfriend of
> five years.
>
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from: "garian" <vigil@ucsu.colorado.edu>
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sent: wednesday, january 15, 2003 3:55 pm
subject: nigc--article about illinois death penalty decision

> denver post, 1/15/03
>
> cu expert was key to ill. decision
> by howard pankratz
> denver post legal affairs writer
>
> wednesday, january 15, 2003 - a colorado-based national expert on the
death
> penalty played a critical role in the research that led to former illinois
> gov. george ryan's blanket commutation of illinois death row inmates.
>
> the university of colorado's michael radelet spent nearly three years
> gathering and analyzing statistics about illinois' death row inmates and
> their victims and preparing a comprehensive study for the illinois
> governor's commission on capital punishment.
>
> "he did outstanding work," said matt bettenhausen, deputy governor of
> illinois and executive director of the commission.
>
> bettenhausen said radelet was able to create an extensive central
inventory
> of statistics about illinois murderers and victims where none existed
> before. to do so, said the deputy governor, radelet compiled data from
> federal sources, the illinois state police and local police departments
and
> prosecutors.

still doesn't change the fact that what this typically phony politician of a
governor did was chickenshit. he should have commmuted the sentences of all
these convicted murderers his first day in office and dealt with the
political consequences.

fact is, some people do deserve the death penalty.

dave

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according to http://www.dcn.com/contest/schedule.jsp tonight's amy ray
concert from the cat's cradle in north carolina will be webcast.

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susan

indigo girls extend tour
updated 02:39 pst wed, jan 15 2003
the indigo girls are back for another round of shows in support of their
eighth album, become you. joining the girls on the tour are kim richey
(february 1-4 and 7-10), neko case (february 6), cordero (february 11-17), and
paul melan�on (february 18-19).
the outing will be an acoustic venture, with the indigo girls' backing band
left home. however, that doesn't mean the supporting artists will be
unplugged. latin band cordero will bring their fusion of latin rhythms and
southern gothic stories alongside the country crooning of kim richey and pop
leanings of paul melan�on.
although his name may be new to most, paul melan�on is no stranger to diehard
indigo girls fans. he's currently opening for amy ray & the butchies.
the girls managed to make it onto pollstar's top 100 tours of 2002. they
nabbed the no. 76 spot, just behind guns n' roses and ahead of tim mcgraw,
although the indigo girls packed in more than five times the number of gigs
than either of those two.
earlier last year, the indigo girls celebrated the then-pending release of
become you with a club tour previewing the new material from february through
march. they followed that by hitting europe full-blast in april before heading
back to the states for a tour that spread into fall.

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i believe the article about amy going to cat's cradle is a recent article, although the writer mistakenly referred to "stag" as a "new" album. i believe that amy did break up with jennifer b.; sad but none of my business really.

that said, i am curious. i wonder if amy and emily ever did give in to the temptation of being on the road and away from loved ones and did more than shake hands with someone backstage or in a hotel room somewhere.

the first answer is probably not, because they haven't written a song about it; but seriously i wonder if it has ever happened. thoughts, opinions, firsthand info anyone?

-scott

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> still doesn't change the fact that what this typically phony politician of
a
> governor did was chickenshit. he should have commmuted the sentences of
all
> these convicted murderers his first day in office and dealt with the
> political consequences.
>

he did what he did, when he did it because of the information gathered to
that point... when he came into office he was a proponent of the death
penalty, and may still be... his problem it seems was with the illinois
system, and the chances of an innocent man/woman being put to death...

> fact is, some people do deserve the death penalty.
>

it's not a fact, it's an opinion...

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being careful not to become overly personal and thus attract the vengence of
the entire list, i'd have to say that i have wondered the same thing. my
feeling is that touring, like being in a play with a specific, isolated group
of people, might seem to invent this insulated universe in which it would be
really easy to feel like you could cheat without any reprocussions. you're
moving around everyday, you're away from your normal life, i bet most touring
artists have at some point cheated. that being said, i have no idea if a or e
have done so. my impulse (based on nothing really) would be to say that e has
not. but that maybe a has. total conjecture and probably evil and wrong of me
to hazard a guess.

leaving conjecture in the background and bringing it back to the music....i've
always thought that the subject of temptation is addressed in the lines of
"leaving". upon first hearing, "but do you ever wonder through and through /
who's that person standing next to you?" i immediately questioned if there was
a double meaning. is emily simply referring to a typical "photo op" shot that
must occur time after time when they are on the road and she can't remember
time, place or name? or is she being questioned by someone else about who
she's standing next to (i.e., gosh, you seem to be standing close to her, and
why does she seem to be in so many of these photos)?

deb

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> being careful not to become overly personal and thus attract the vengence of
> the entire list, i'd have to say that i have wondered the same thing. my
> feeling is that touring, like being in a play with a specific, isolated
group
> of people, might seem to invent this insulated universe in which it would be
> really easy to feel like you could cheat without any reprocussions. you're
> moving around everyday, you're away from your normal life, i bet most
touring
> artists have at some point cheated. that being said, i have no idea if a or
e
> have done so. my impulse (based on nothing really) would be to say that e
has
> not. but that maybe a has. total conjecture and probably evil and wrong of
me
> to hazard a guess.

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date:         thu, 16 jan 2003 10:52:48 -0800
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taken in context it sounds more like she's talking about being away so much
and sending things that seem trivial (like postcards) that are no substitute
for the real person.

<there's a postcard there's a call
and there's a picture for your bedroom wall
but do you ever wonder through and through
who's that person standing next to you>

more like wondering if her partner is "wondering" about emily's presence (or
lack there of) in her life, and will her absence take a toll on their
relationship

<and after all the nights apart is there a home for a travelling heart>.

anyway, that was my take on it.

:-)

marie

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> > ok, did amy break up with her current gf, or is
> that
> > old news? this article had a lot of old info
> presented
> > as new info.

it has to be jennifer because before that she was in a
relationship for 8 years i believe.

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i was wondering if anyone knows the name of the song
amy sang solo at the holiday show at the tabernacle?
also, is it a new one? is it a cover? just curious
because i really loved it.

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its called "dairy queen" and i believe it made its concert debut in late
summer.

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i was wondering if anyone knows the name of the song
amy sang solo at the holiday show at the tabernacle?
also, is it a new one? is it a cover? just curious
because i really loved it.

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has it been established that "dairy queen" is the official name?
just wondering.
-bon

at 05:01 pm 1/16/2003 -0500, <victoria heckler> wrote:
>its called "dairy queen" and i believe it made its concert debut in late
>summer.
>
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>subject: amy's song from tabernacle show
>
>
>i was wondering if anyone knows the name of the song
>amy sang solo at the holiday show at the tabernacle?
>also, is it a new one? is it a cover? just curious
>because i really loved it.

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at the sewell, nj show, we asked amy what the name of the song was and she
confirmed it was "dairy queen" and noted that she'd probably have to change
it down the line because its probably trademark infringement!

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has it been established that "dairy queen" is the official name?
just wondering.
-bon

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a nice article today in athensrock on amy published in the athens
banner-herald:

http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/011603/roc_20030116020.shtml

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how do i change to digest?
thanks,
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most of the touring musicians i know seem more interested in creature
comforts than in the pleasures of the flesh. touring is a grueling way
to make a living, although tour buses are a far cry from hondas and
subarus. still, most of the artists i've hosted have exhibited
road-weariness to various degrees...

a few lucky ones have partners who tour with them and take an active
interest in managing their careers, which seems to me to be an ideal
situation...

i'd be willing to wager that more indiscretions occur by the actions of a
jealous stay-at-home partner seeking 'revenge' than a tired musician with
equipmment to manage and another long drive the next day...

peace,
tim

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> "but do you ever wonder through and through /
> who's that person standing next to you?" i immediately questioned if there was
> a double meaning. is emily simply referring to a typical "photo op" shot that
> must occur time after time when they are on the road and she can't remember
> time, place or name? or is she being questioned by someone else about who
> she's standing next to (i.e., gosh, you seem to be standing close to her, and
> why does she seem to be in so many of these photos)?
>
>

i always read it to mean that her lady, looking at a pix of the two of
them, might wonder "who is standing next to her" since e is on the road
so often.. as though she wonders if her lady misses her as much as e
misses her lady. absence makes the heart grow fonder but the visual
image grow dimmer..
call me a romantic
pooh

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hey folks,

here's the article that was mentioned earlier - you can read it online at

http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/011603/roc_20030116020.shtml

cheers,
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indigo girl amy ray plays some southern rock'n'roll on solo album

by julie phillips jordan
jphillips@onlineathens.com

"i love georgia," says amy ray, one-half of the indigo girls, the
powerful folk-rock duo that has made a significant impact on pop
consciousness with their soulful songs and heartfelt lyrics.

she's talking by phone from her georgia home, which is about the same
distance from athens as it is atlanta, as she reveals later in the
conversation. she declares her love for the south in the midst of a
discussion about music in general, about how her debut album "stag"
(released in march, 2001) features some fellow georgia rockers, and
certainly a nice list of southern musicians to back her, among them
atlanta's rock*a*teens, south carolina singer/songwriter danielle
howle, north carolina's the butchies and birmingham-based 1945.

"the way that southern writers are, the images are very specific to
the south," she says. "they're very dark. and they're not secular --
most of the images are more spiritual. when you look at
(rock*a*teens' chris) lopez's writing, he has a lot of biblical
references, and danielle (howle), too. they're very epic in their
proportions."

the same definitely can be said about ray's songwriting. the indigo
girls' lyrics (also written by bandmate emily saliers) consistently
tell character-driven stories of good and evil, love and beauty,
despair and discovery, modern-day fables with an historic
sensibility.

and "stag," released on ray's own daemon records label, does as well,
most evident in the opening track, "johnny rottentail," a
mandolin-fueled hellfire-and-damnation ballad about a brother who was
hanged from the gallows for his evil ways: "oh yes i loved him but i
won't miss him/ as he's burning and he's twisting/ for his heartless
dedication/ to the devil and its creed."

where that song's a playful (if ironic) tribute to southern folk
music, "laramie" takes up a serious issue in its contemplative plea
against hate crime, specifically gay-bashing. the song was written in
response to the murder of matthew shepard -- and it's a theme that
hitches a ride with feminism to carry over into the more rockin'
"lucystoners": "and all the faggot bashing poetry, but the boys are
just saying/'love me please'/in every hate filled phrase..."

though ray will soon go back into the recording studio to begin work
on a new indigo girls album, "stag" is altogether ray's, a little
more rockin' and edgy. she put it together in an almost scrappy
do-it-yourself style that saw her traveling up and down the east
coast, putting down tracks in basements and recording studios alike
(in new york she met up with joan jett, who lends her signature
vocals to "hey castrator").

ray then came back to georgia -- athens, specifically -- where she
put the songs in the hands of athens musician and engineer david
barbe at his chase park transduction studio.

"i like his sensibilities ..." ray says of barbe. "he's really good
with guitar tone. and he can make your electric guitar sound just the
way you want it to sound ..." she says, adding he was able to make
"everything sound old and grungy" just the way she wanted it to.

the other draw of athens, though, is it's sort of a roots place for
ray, as she and saliers began their career here as the indigo girls,
making the trek from atlanta to play their tunes for athens
audiences.

"the atlanta/athens thing is so funny because atlanta bands are
always just struggling to get gigs in athens. and back then it was
the same way. to get in the door, you had to open for somebody that
was already established, and so the squalls let us play with them
and drivin' 'n' cryin' did too. ... and we worked in athens on our
first couple of records, with john keane. we ate at the taco stand
all the time, and now i'll drive to athens just to go eat at the
grit. i love athens. and david barbe, he's real important to me as an
engineer and a producer. but back then, it was just this situation
where if you were an atlanta band and you could get your gigs in
athens, you sorta felt like you had accomplished something."

this will be the first show ray's played in athens in a long while.
although "stag" was released nearly two years ago, ray says this tour
is an opportunity for her to reconnect with the butchies (who toured
with her last year), as she plans to work with them on a future solo
album. "and athens," she adds, "was one of the places that we really
wanted to play -- the 40 watt."

amy ray and the butchies
with small victory
when: saturday, jan. 18
where: 40 watt club, 285 w. washington st.
cost: $9
call: (706) 549-7871
advance tickets: available at www.40watt.com

published in the athens banner-herald on thursday, january 16, 2003.

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date:         fri, 17 jan 2003 01:06:43 -0500
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              11:00 pm east ern time
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hey folks,

this was sent to the news-only list but is more appropriate for here instead. please direct any replies to the original sender at ericfl@usa.net, not to me, thanks...

cheers,
sherlyn

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did anyone happen to record the webcast audio? it was a great show and i
would love to get a copy of refugee and the last song (so sweet). or, if
anyone knows of a recast i will record those tracks to mp3.

thanks!

eric

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the canadian folk singer stan rogers wrote a great song about the
temptations of the road. it's called "you can't stay here", on the album
northwest passage. (released in 1981.)

amazon has the usual 30-second clip at
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/b000003btz001005/104-0473392-112
3167

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i know this is completely non-indigo related. so you all know where your
delete key is :-)

anyway, i was watching the today show this morning before i went to work and
they were showing all over europe how there are anti-american sentiments.
they showed people walking in protests with pictures of gw bush's head in
circle with a line through it. (similar to the no smoking type thing)  like
70% of germans and 80% of french people think that america is going about
this thing in iraq the wrong way.  and they think that we shouldn't war.  i
completely agree.  but anyway, they then showed some world leader (it
escapes me who it was) and he said that they like america, and the american
people and what we stand for.  just because bush is our president doesn't
mean they should hate all of us.  i just thought it was funny (ironic) that
so many people in the world feel that way about bush.  i, for one, cannot
stand the man.  but, i just thought i would share that little piece of news
with those of you that care.  i know that quite a few people on this list
feel the same way that i do.
if you don't, please don't flame me.  i am just sharing news.
take care and happy friday!!!
-mi rinda

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date:         sat, 18 jan 2003 11:16:43 est
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there will be another webcast on dcn.com from tonight's show at the 40 watt
club in athens - 11 pm est, i believe.  i admit, i am an inept mac user and
just barely figured out how to watch webcasts.  archiving the sound?  that's
an amazing concept to me.  so if anyone did it for the last show (please! i
loved the between-song banter, dairy queen, refugee, and the last song, which
made me cry) or is gonna do it for tonight's show, let me know if there's
anything i can do to trade you for a copy.

also, did y'all notice the loads of smoking reference in the show?  i've
always wondered about both amy and emily's take on various drugs.  i remember
some picture of 'presents from humboldt county' on the site a couple years
ago.  anyone know more about this?

so many questions. i hope everyone is having a good morning.

lisa

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date:         sat, 18 jan 2003 14:08:17 -0500
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c-span is broadcasting it right now - patti smith (the goddess) played just
now -

maybe dc.indymedia.org is webcasting -

but check it out - they do re broadcast later today...

mike r.

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did anyone else catch the webcast last night?  i saw the last 1/2 hour.  =
awesome!!  what was that new song that amy sang?  it rocked.  she said =
she and the butchies only knew one new song and that was it but she =
didn't say what it was called and i couldn't make out what she was =
saying on the chorus.  it was so cool after they all left the stage, =
after a while amy came back out and started breaking down the equipment. =
so cool to see her shleping around her equipment and rolling chords.

i'm a computer boob so i don't know how to download/record those =
webcasts but they do have archives from when stag came out, i think 3 =
shows.

peace,
jen

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date:         mon, 20 jan 2003 18:20:15 -0500
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don't think anyone posted this yet...from charlotte's creative loafing!

d:)

ray of light
indigo girl flies solo

by timothy c. davis

amy ray, who, along with fellow indigo girl emily saliers, has intermittently peppered the airwaves with her harmonies for almost 15 years, is going it alone.indeed, she's doing most everything alone: touring alone, driving the van alone, booking the shows alone, and succeeding or failing alone. to revive her artistic fires, the lanky songstress is hitting the road for some solo dates with punk faves and sometimes backing band the butchies, leaving the acoustics and braided harmonies back in georgia. creative loafing recently had a chance to catch up with ray to talk songwriting, touring, the hassles of owning your own label, and more.

creative loafing: do you know early on in the writing of a song if it's going to be an indigo girls song or a solo song?

amy ray: i was writing songs for [my solo album] stag, and at the same time i was kind of writing indigo girls songs, too. it was just very easy for me to recognize. it's not even the lyrics i'm talking about as much as the way i'm playing it that makes it an indigo or solo song. for me, the solo songs were ones i wanted to be a very singular voice. even if i'm not singing a song with emily, the fact that i'm playing it with her changes the emphasis of the lyrics ever so slightly. i can just feel a song like "lucystoners" (from stag) is not an indigo girls song, and i don't want it to be anything else but just a singular voice talking about this. with an indigo girls song, i can feel it's going to have countermelody in it. i can feel it's going to need another strong voice, because i want to have something, a different color in there, so that people are forced to think differently. they're forced to think less one-dimensionally about the lyrics, and i think it really helps to have another voice to make people do that even in their subconscious.

is it kind of fun being out on the road again in a more lo-fi fashion?

part of the reason i do the solo stuff is not really musical -- it's just for the technical side of things: driving myself, and lugging all my instruments around, and figuring out how my amp works again, and figuring out how to fix my own guitars again. just the self-sufficiency of it all is really important. and i think you gain a lot of knowledge by having to work that way. then i go back to the indigo girls and get to be so appreciative of being able to sleep on the bus instead of having to drive overnight to the next place. but i understand more how things work and how the business works when i have to book the gig myself and do my own settlement. i understand the accounting better, everything. it's really good for me.

this is pretty much a punk tour. i've heard you say in the past that music people seem to think that the only music a lesbian can play is folk music...

i've always loved punk. the bands that i use on the record are bands that i spent a lot of time going to see: the rock-a-teens and danielle howle when she was playing with lay quiet awhile, and all these different bands from atlanta and athens. southern punk is very different to me than some other regions, because it's not secular -- it's very rooted in something that's spiritual. it's like gospel punk or something, and i really love that. i love the storytelling part of it. when you listen to danielle howle play punk, it's got a gospel thread running through it. it's that southern thing, that bible belt thing that we can't get away from, because we grew up in it. it's in your blood, you know?

do you feel like your music is still overshadowed by your activism?

i think that happens to women a lot, and i think that happens to activists a lot, too. people just stop looking at their music. it used to be a long time ago we couldn't get people to pay attention to what we were saying politically, and now we can't get people to look at our music. i remember when ani difranco was being written about so much; it really frustrated me because i thought she was at a really important place musically, and no one was writing about that -- they were all writing about her business model. which is important, but i think it was also important to say that she was making some really good music right then. part of the reason i made this record was because i was frustrated with being locked in a certain "box," and certain genres, and a certain sexuality.

your record label has been out some time now. what's been the biggest challenge in running daemon up to now? does the solo touring help with seeing the whole thing differently?

i think the hardest thing to learn is just how to negotiate financially on my own. when i started daemon, i had just started really making a lot of money being on a major label and all that. so i had like these huge recording budgets for the bands. big so far as indie goes -- not big compared to me, as a major label artist -- but big to an indie band. they appreciated it and all that, but their records were always in the hole. i started it as not-for-profit. but it's like there's something wrong with the formula of "spend a lot of money on it and don't worry about what you get back out of it" when you're running an indie label. i should have started smaller with very small budgets, and i should have always made sure that whatever i spent i brought back in. and not because i wanted to make a profit, but because it just keeps the label alive to do it that way. i've had to learn how to talk to my bands and say, "look, i'm not the bank of amy ray -- the label has to support itself, because my career is not always going to support the label." my career is going to wax and wane, and sometimes i'm going to be poor and if the label is going to survive, it's got to be able to survive on its own.

amy ray will perform friday at tremont music hall.

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date:         mon, 20 jan 2003 16:19:31 -0800
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hi everybody=85
=20
i have this excellent sounding show on my hard drive and will burn it
for a bunch of people who want to send a b&p.  source info:  at933 >
d100, 12 row right.  i didn=92t tape this one, but i did transfer it =
from
the dat tape.  the show requires two disks.  no artwork is available at
this time.  let me know if you=92re interested!
=20
joy:-d
=20
setlist: =20
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gone again
watershed
become you
deconstruction
ozilline
least complicated
yield
power of two
shame on you
our deliverance
dairy queen
closer to fine
you've got to show
jonas and ezekial
get out the map
moment of forgiveness
collecting you
chickenman/bitterroot=20
encore:
kid fears
galileo=20
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indigo girls

rank     76
gross     6.3 mil
ticket price average cost     $36.12

average tickets 2,341

total tickets 173,217

average gross 84,553

number of cities/shows 74/80

agency high road touring

http://www.pollstaronline.com/sf-2002-yearendtop100.asp

hey folks, where has the list faq gone to? i've been out of the loop for
some time and it appears sherlyn's site is down or moved. i wanted to
search the list archives but can't remember how.

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don't beat yourself over the head on that one - there are several list folks
who still reference the old url on their websites. :)

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