lifeblood: listlogs: 2003-01d


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date:         wed, 22 jan 2003 15:07:04 -0500
reply-to:     anna creech <creechal@spamcop.net>
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subject:      (sigc) would someone take these off my hands?
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i have some cds that need new homes.  here's the deal:  you can have them each
for $3 a piece, or buy the whole lot for $12.  plus, i'll throw in a few extra
surprises if you buy the lot of them.  that price includes shipping.  i just
want them out of my house and in someone's cd player.


indigo girls "strange fire"
sophie b. hawkins "tongues and tails"
meredith brooks "blurring the edges"
various artists "miramar collection, vol. 3"
joy eden harrison "unspoken"


anna


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these staid do-gooders, hair in a bun, glasses on the nose. in fact,
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http://www.eclecticlibrarian.net | good music found here: mp3.com/wishingchair


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date:         wed, 22 jan 2003 15:59:17 -0500
reply-to:     anna creech <creechal@spamcop.net>
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wow!  that was fast!  they're all claimed, folks.  thanks for looking.


anna


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date:         wed, 22 jan 2003 21:43:17 est
reply-to:     sprdinosur@aol.com
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from:         joe agueci <sprdinosur@aol.com>
subject:      time for some new downloads
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hkf's,


i'm looking in my mp3's folder and am loving my collection of 'non-released'
ig songs. most of which i owe to a stint of unemployment and access to
napster, and an equal number to the fine folks on this list who are among the
few who understand the depth of my love for this music.


well.. i'm feanding for more!!!  i'm reading a lot about 'temptatoin' and a
song called 'dairy queen' can anyone help me get my fix?(and others who
haven't yet started jonesing the way i am)


hopeing to spend a few minuets downloading and a life time listining,


thanks in advance


joe
manhattan,ny


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date:         wed, 22 jan 2003 20:17:06 -0800
reply-to:     heather rosenberg <georgia624@yahoo.com>
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from:         heather rosenberg <georgia624@yahoo.com>
subject:      dairy queen
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i was hoping someone on the list has a copy of dairy
queen that i could trade for.  i must get a copy of
this song.  it is my new favorite.  please email me if
you can help.
thanks,
heather


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date:         thu, 23 jan 2003 10:48:47 -0500
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this is the same deal as before.  $3 each or all five for $12 - shipping
included.


indigo girls - nomads*indians*saints
tracy bonham - down here
vyktoria pratt keating - this guardian at noon
vyktoria pratt keating - something about driving
jose carreras - missa: sound of eternity (misa criolla; missa luba; misa
flamenca)


anna


"i think that librarians get a bum rap. they're constantly represented as
these staid do-gooders, hair in a bun, glasses on the nose. in fact,
librarians have better eyesight than most professionals."  --alan kurzweil
http://www.eclecticlibrarian.net | good music found here: mp3.com/wishingchair


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date:         thu, 23 jan 2003 10:09:51 -0600
reply-to:     "kovacs, mirinda" <mirinda.kovacs@westgroup.com>
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from:         "kovacs, mirinda" <mirinda.kovacs@westgroup.com>
subject:      re: time for some new downloads
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i would also love it if someone could put temptation on their site.  i am
also looking for the following new songs.
put it aside (give in)
let me go easy


they both are on the ftp part of brian's web site.  i cannot access that
from my pc here at work.  firewalls, or something else that work has done
with the networks, are not allowing me in.  so if anyone has these somewhere
that i can get them from i would be super appreciative.


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from: joe agueci [mailto:sprdinosur@aol.com]
sent: wednesday, january 22, 2003 8:43 pm
to: indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org
subject: time for some new downloads

hkf's,


i'm looking in my mp3's folder and am loving my collection of 'non-released'
ig songs. most of which i owe to a stint of unemployment and access to
napster, and an equal number to the fine folks on this list who are among
the
few who understand the depth of my love for this music.


well.. i'm feanding for more!!!  i'm reading a lot about 'temptatoin' and a
song called 'dairy queen' can anyone help me get my fix?(and others who
haven't yet started jonesing the way i am)


hopeing to spend a few minuets downloading and a life time listining,


thanks in advance


joe
manhattan,ny


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date:         fri, 24 jan 2003 11:58:31 -0500
reply-to:     victoria.heckler@ppfa.org
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from:         "<victoria heckler>" <victoria.heckler@ppfa.org>
subject:      nigc - attn: nyc area listees - special benefit performance of be
              tty rules!
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as some of you may know, i work for the national headquarters of planned
parenthood federation of america.  we are hosting a special benefit
performance of the off-broadway "alterna musical" betty rules!  on tuesday,
january 28, 2003 at 7:30 p.m.


betty rules follows the band's 17-year rock n' roller coaster ride on the
music scene.  now, their hyper-rock music, high-octane personalities and
wild tales from the dark side of fame are rocking the roof off the zipper
theatre in the all new betty rules!, directed by michael grief (rent).  for
those of you who are unfamiliar with betty, they are a super cool feminist,
pro-gay, pro-choice trio of talented women.


there will be complimentary wine and beer before & after the show and a
special talk-back discussion with the creators and performers of betty rules
after the show.


the ticket price of this event is $50 for the general public, but i am
extending our special "family and friends of ppfa" discount to those of you
on the ig list who wish to attend.  the discounted ticket price is $30 and
all proceeds will benefit planned parenthood federation of america.


to purchase tickets by credit card, please call me at 212-261-4535.  you
will not be able to purchase tickets for this special benefit anywhere else.

seats are filling up pretty quickly, so if you are interested, i encourage
you to call as soon as possible.


for more information on the show or the band, please go to
www.bettyrules.com


thanks a lot and i hope to see some of you on tuesday!


victoria d. heckler
membership development coordinator
planned parenthood federation of america
810 seventh avenue
new york, ny  10019


(212) 261-4535 phone
(212) 247-6416 fax


www.plannedparenthood.org
www.teenwire.com


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date:         fri, 24 jan 2003 13:25:42 -0600
reply-to:     n_d_go_grl@hotmail.com
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from:         traci drago <n_d_go_grl@hotmail.com>
subject:      nigc-sorry-must see tv
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did anyone record friends, will & grace & er last night???  i wasn't =
home and my cable was out last night, so my recording is bad.


please email me privately.
traci


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date:         sat, 25 jan 2003 00:29:31 est
reply-to:     lisa071573@aol.com
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subject:      nigc - must-see tv
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hey traci - must-see tv was all reruns last night :p  but while we're at
it... did anyone tape er last week? i missed it :(
:) lisa


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date:         sat, 25 jan 2003 11:46:06 -0500
reply-to:     lisalisaa <lisalisaa@earthlink.net>
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subject:      url for brian clary's site?
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can someone help me out with the url for brian clary's site? my computer
crashed and i lost all my bookmarks. thanks.


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date:         sat, 25 jan 2003 18:20:18 +0000
reply-to:     "becky b." <indigo_24@hotmail.com>
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subject:      oberlin show
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hey all.
alright, so i'm sure you know about this show already and know all of its
vitals but i'm writing anyway to drum up some business for the show. we want
it to be a successful show and we want there to be a full turnout. i'm not
on the big list so i haven't been reading any discussion on the show (if
there's been any), but if y'all have questions, feel free to email me. hope
to see you there!


indigo girls with special guest cordero
oberlin college
february 15, 2003, 8pm
finney chapel (relatively small venue!!!!)
$13 ocid, $22 other
order tickets 440.775.8169 ($3 handling fee per order)
join us in this concert for peace! (this is a less well-known fact)

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date:         sat, 25 jan 2003 13:21:11 -0500
reply-to:     mary post <marybpost@comcast.net>
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subject:      anyone have an extra ticket for 2/18/03?
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hi,
a friend needs a ticket for the indigo girls concert in wilmington, de.
if anyone has a ticket to sell, please let me know.
thanks,
mary


mary b. post
listening post productions
www.listeningpost.us <http://www.listeningpost.us/>
302.834.3732 voice
302.834.1244 fax


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date:         sat, 25 jan 2003 13:24:49 -0500
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subject:      nigc:  cheryl wheeler concert in wilmington 1/31
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hi everyone,
as many of you may know i have started a small business of concert
promotion.  cheryl wheeler - who is a very talented performer and a
hoot, will be in wilmington on january 31st.  check out my website,
www.listeningpost.us for details.  perhaps you have a friend in the de,
pa area who likes her music.  pass it on - starting a new business is
difficult as many of you must know.
thanks!
mary


mary b. post
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www.listeningpost.us <http://www.listeningpost.us/>
302.834.3732 voice
302.834.1244 fax


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date:         sat, 25 jan 2003 14:22:03 -0600
reply-to:     barbara bordner <ritesofpassage9@webtv.net>
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from:         barbara bordner <ritesofpassage9@webtv.net>
subject:      re: nigc:  cheryl wheeler concert in wilmington 1/31
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guys she's not kidding here..i have heard cheryl wheeler live on mpr
several times..
and she'll have you in stitches...and the songs on her mrs. pinnocci's
guitar cd are thought provoking, whimsical.


peace
barb


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date:         sat, 25 jan 2003 14:40:45 -0500
reply-to:     michael reynolds <mike@uppity-disability.net>
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subject:      re: nigc:  cheryl wheeler concert in wilmington 1/31
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at 01:24 pm 1/25/03 -0500, mary post wrote:
>hi everyone,
>as many of you may know i have started a small business of concert
>promotion.  cheryl wheeler - who is a very talented performer and a
>hoot, will be in wilmington on january 31st.  check out my website,
>www.listeningpost.us for details.  perhaps you have a friend in the de,
>pa area who likes her music.  pass it on - starting a new business is
>difficult as many of you must know.
>thanks!
>mary
being stranded in maine - i cant make the show - but go see cheryl - she is
steelar live, amazing on guitar, a bit frigid (i gave her some photos i
took of her once, she did not even say thank you, but she is known to be
weary and she was probably tired...


but go - really - cheryl is amazing.


mike r.


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date:         sun, 26 jan 2003 19:53:12 -0500
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from:         "i am 32 flavors and then some..." <tisara@webworqs.com>
subject:      birthdays!!!!!!!!!!!!
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hey y'all! :)


i have this sneaking suspicion that with the holiday last monday, i
forgot to send out the birthday announcement...so i will be doing
january 20th - february 6th, 2003 in this email.  hold on to your
seats kiddies!


january 20
[ndygotiggr@aol.com]  tigger!


january 20 ('80)
liz hayes
locisima@hotmail.com
"there is a me you would not recognize, call it the shadow of
myself." -
over the rhine


january 21  ('81)
heather pownall
pv10@aol.com
"an eye for an eye makes every one blind." --martin luther king jr.


january 21 ('85)
leah walsh (beauty_of_peace@hotmail.com)


january 24 ('77)
espizz@simons-rock.edu (erica spizz)


january 24 ('77)
rmackni@acs.bu.edu (rachel)


january 24, '75
armydillo@earthlink.net (nancy lambert)


january 25
krogue@aol.com (kyle vogel)


january 26 ('77)
mts5@aber.ac.uk (matthew j. smith)


january 28
n.rear1@student.derby.ac.uk (natasha rear)


january 29 ('66)
joanm12345@aol.com (joan morrison)


january 30 ('76)
bakerjo@caedm.et.byu.edu (jody k. baker)


january 30
ofelia81@aol.com(leslie mackrell)
"the world is full of magical things patiently waiting for our wits to
grow sharper."- bertrand russel


january 30 ('71)
karrie@ncinter.net (karrie bowen)
"the higher the leap, the harder the ground...."
"i finally found someone i can hold/ you ask me to defend myself, as
if i shouldn't be so bold, well/ get that look off of your face/ i
don't
have the time, you don't have the place..."


january 31 ('65)
joan_ferguson@harvard.edu (joan ferguson)
"i stood without clothes, danced in the sand, i was aching with
freedom, kissing  the damned, i said remember this, it's how it
should be..."


february 1 ('68)
trace@olywa.net  (tracy saulino nee weeks)
clumber@spamex.com


february 2 ('77)
valkyrie7@juno.com (lisa r johnson)


february 2, 1974
brian belbis (bbelbis@aol.com)


february 2, 1978
elle mckay
"i paint the sky with you,
and i let you pick the blue."
-mates of state


massive happy birthday apologies to those i missed, and massive happy
birthday celebration vibes out to those to come.  be safe!


love and devotion,
audra
bge

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beyond the reach of other desires.  no-one can legislate love;
it cannot be given orders or cajoled into service.  love belongs
to itself, deaf to pleading and unmoved by violence.  love is
not something you can negotiate.  love is the one thing stronger
than desire and the only proper reason to resist temptation."
         -- jeanette winterson, _written on the body_ (p. 77-78)


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date:         mon, 27 jan 2003 13:54:57 -0500
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subject:      nigc:  breast cancer. this is real
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this is real go to the link
subject: breast cancer hospitalization bill --
important legislation for
all women. please forward this to everyone in your
address book. if
there was ever time when
our voices and choices should be heard, this is one
of those times.


if you are receiving this, it's because i think you
are a loving,
caring, person who
will take the 30 seconds to go and vote on this
issue...and send it on
to others
you know who will do the same.


there's a bill called the breast cancer patient
protection act which
will require insurance companies to cover a minimum
48-hour hospital
stay for patients undergoing a mastectomy. it's
about eliminating the
"drive-through mastectomy" where women are forced to
go home hours
after surgery against the wishes of their doctor,
still groggy from
anesthesia
and sometimes with drainage tubes still attached.


lifetime television has put this bill on their web
page with a petition
drive
to show your support. last year over half the house
signed on.
please!!!! sign the petition by clicking on the web
site below and help
women
living with breast cancer get the care they need and deserve!!


there is no cost or monetary pledge involved. you
need not give more
than
your name and zip code number.
http://www.lifetimetv.com/health/breast_mastectomy_pledge.html
this takes about 2 seconds. please pass this on.
thanks


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date:         mon, 27 jan 2003 16:58:00 -0800
reply-to:     tara <tara8595@yahoo.com>
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from:         tara <tara8595@yahoo.com>
subject:      ig videos to sell - anyone?
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hey gang - i've got really good copies - no flaws
- of the vhs videos watershed and live at the
uptown lounge that i want to sell.  i listed
these on ebay but was insulted for a&e when they
got no bids - i'm just chalking it up to the fact
that most people have them. i have 2 copies of
each, which is why i'm selling these.


but if you are one of the few who does not have
these already, and you'd like to have them,
they're available for $10 + $2 shipping.


anyone interested?  just let me know.


thanks-


tara


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y'all are quick... the videos are spoken for.
thanks.


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hkfs,


sadly i won't be able to make it to the chicago theater concert.  i've
got two really good 3rd row inner isle seat tickets that i need to sell.
thing is since i live in illinois i can't sell them on ebay for more than
the printed ticket price.  that sucks for me since i bought them from a
broker on ebay for $212.  so that's what i'm selling them for to recoupe
what i paid out.  if you're interested, email me privately.  i'll pay for
the overnight delivery charges.


chicago theater
february 6, 2003
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row cc (3rd row from the stage, excluding the pit ... but they're so low
you won't even notice them)
seats 301&303 (inner isle)


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hkf,


i don't know if this has already been posted, but the e-town radio show from
last february featuring the girls will be re-broadcast on 2/5/03. go to
www.etown.org to find a station in your area that carries this show.


also - the e-town volume 3 cd is now available, featuring "she's saving me".
  details at: www.etown.org/start_page.html


---------------------------------------------------------------
e-town vol. 3,a collection of a few great moments from 11 years on the etown
stage!
volume iii $14.00
etown live volume 3 :

1. eliza gilkyson, "beauty way"
2. the blind boys of alabama, "run on for a long time"
3. midnight oil, "beds are burning"
4. shelby lynne, "thought it would be easier"
5. david gray, "twilight"
6. indigo girls, "she's saving me"
7. tim easton, "carry me"
8. pops staples, "gotta serve somebody"
9. susan tedeschi, "(mama) he treats your daughter mean"
10. jules shear, "more"
11. natalie merchant, "break your heart"
12. rick danko featuring garth hudson & professor "louie," "book faded
brown"
13. patty griffin, "forgiveness"
14. randy newman, "world isn't fair"

call e·town at (303) 443-8696 to order these products. prices do not reflect
shipping and handling charges.
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marci


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hi everyone,


just looking for something to do, i went over to daemon to check and see
if there's anything recent in the notes from amy.....what i found was
interesting......here it is.  enjoy!


barb


______________________________________
notes from amy

the future of music is now


a field report with ian and patti
1-09-03


i went to the future of music policy summit in d.c. this past weekend.
it's an important event that left me chock full of knowledge =96some i
want, some i don't.


now, i wonder if music should even be a commodity. i tell myself, its
not the music itself that we sell, it's the energy and time spent on the
recording and touring, the paper, the plastic, the "bits". while part of
the conference focused on how to commodify these "bits" (who has the
right to make money and how do make money, what is the future of our
ability to make money); the other time was spent looking at the activism
around protecting the airwaves, the internet, artists' spaces, and our
right to freely create.


the panelists at the three day conference included artist, lawyers,
managers, retail and internet entrepreneurs, music industry officials,
and u.s. government representatives. with the panels covering everything
from the basic rudiments of a career in music to the most esoteric
discussion on intellectual property rights, one thing kept ringing true
for me. it's all about the gatekeepers and unfortunately most of the
gatekeepers are huge corporations or government departments who can't
afford your freedom of expression.


its hard to articulate what i have come away with. really, at this point
it's just a bunch of impressions. ian mackaye (founder of dischord
records, producer, and member of the band, fugazi) noted that "music is
a river and people will always bottle the water and sell it to you,
saying you can't drink from the river because the river is polluted."
he's got a point, there is nothing stopping us from gathering together
and playing music, with and for each other. sometimes we have to get
creative about the space and time, but music does freely exists.


many of the artist at the conference were mostly interested in how to
access resources and the bare essentials of building a career in music.
unfortunately this discussion was often framed by the question, "how can
we make money?," rather than "how do we build a music community that is
rich and active?"


there was an overwhelming sentiment from the older folks that the
business was doomed, and this somehow translated into the idea that the
quality of music is degenerating,-"they don't write them like they used
to" attitudes. i hate that attitude. i am sure there were plenty of
older optimists but the hysteria from the doom's dayers was enough to
almost drown out any hope. there is nothing worse than an aging cynic,
who seems to me, to be begging for the generation gap that he/she so
valiantly fought against.


patti smith wanted to talk about the coming war against iraq. she asked
a very important question when she said. "where are you? where are the
people that will speak out against this war. we are on a brink of a war
that is unnecessary, that will cause great heartache, that will not
cause any global dialogue. we are just sitting around, where is our
voice. i beg all of you out there to take a stand. and that doesn't mean
throwing a song in your set; we need you to stand up and speak , we need
to start a global antiwar movement. i noticed the ad in the new york
times that a multitude of artist signed onto, calling for protection
against napster.


this ad cost tons of money. if these people can get together to protect
their royalties why are they not taking out ads against the war. every
missile has each of our names etched upon it. do you want your name
etched there. where are you people."


i really appreciated this observation and question. i have pondered the
actions of the recording artist coalition and their work to protect
artist from being exploited by the entertainment industry. the members
of the rac that are most visible and vocal are the high profile members
who have had very successful major label recording careers.


yes, the rac is trying to tackle the important issues of compensation,
health care, and general major label shenanigans; but there are other
community based groups who are working on these same issues with more
emphasis on protecting our voice and our freedom of expression,
nurturing the local music scenes, and encouraging artist activism that
extends beyond their own careers. frankly i find this is to be a more
genuine and satisfying approach.


i can't argue that the rac's issues are not important and ultimately it
takes all kinds of work to change things, but its hard to stomach this
self serving newly found political activism from some of the members of
rac with their notoriously high ticket prices and unwillingness to get
involved in other political issues. in the end patti smith said,
although she appreciates the royalties that pulled her and her family
through hard times, it is hard for her to get wrapped up in the
questions around free downloading and compensation, with the huge
problems that exist in the world.


and ian echoed the sentiment by reminding us that there are countries
and cultures where the word for musician is not even part of the
language, because saying, "i'm a musician." is pretty much like
saying,,"i breathe."
there is no question that we have become so insular in the u.s. , and so
focused on our own rights to compensation, that we forget the heart and
soul of who we are. its hard to be zen and to hold in your head three
ideas at once-the idea that musicians have a right to compensation for
the work they do, the technical details of how the music industry
operates, and the concept that music does have a certain
spiritual/mystical origination and should be consumed freely.


but really, what is the music industry, who is the music industry? the
music industry should be made up of artist and music fans, and it should
be trying to balance the commodity of music with the essence of music.
the major label industry is one that i really can't relate to anymore.
but there is another industry, the independent industry, and it can also
be affected by legislation around radio, performance royalties, and
sampling laws, as well as anti-music politicians.


we need to know what's going on, so we can protect our musical
environment. i heard many encouraging stories at the conference of the
battles won in the name of music. seattle lived for years with laws
against postering and teen dancing as well as strict noise ordinances
that threatened to stomp out their music scene. this was all changed by
artists, music fans, and civic leaders working hard for a music friendly
town. the fcc enabled radio to be taken over by payola hungry,
corporations snuffing out free expression.


and now the fcc is considering lifting ownership caps on radio stations.
senator feingold (d-wi) is proposing some serious radio reform
legislation. the legislation would fight the damage that has already
been incurred by the1996 telecommunications act. feingold's proposed
radio reform came about when a handful of his constituents met with him
and demonstrated how radio consolidation had negatively affected the
diversity of voices heard in their area, and had caused a huge decline
in local community programming.


in both of these instances it did not take thousands to make change, it
took a handful of concerted individuals to start the ball rolling and
then the legitimacy of the campaigns took over. the fcc needs to hear
from all of us, our local radio stations need to hear from all of us,
and our music scenes need support.


i think the consolidation of radio, retail, media outlets and concert
promoters has helped to separate the musician from the audience. when i
was coming up through the scene-the community included clubs, radio,
media, and local record stores. we all felt part of something and for
this reason we bought the records rather then just taping them. patti
smith made an interesting comment about this and how it applies to free
downloading.


she said that, "we are going through a transition. for too long there
has been separation between rock and the people. people are being
momentarily empowered. they are downloading, copying, collecting trying
to cut the distance between themselves and the artist". i would add that
people are also reacting to the music industry's greed and self
importance. but as the conference lawyers kept saying the jeanie is out
of the bottle and what do we do now?


as for me, i am going to keep creating and playing music; and daemon is
going to keep providing an infrastructure for artist and fans. i am
going to follow all the upcoming legislation and i am going help protect
the outlets we have left for community voice and information. to insure
the success of any activism, we need to protect our channels of
communication and our ability to congregate.


there is a lot to keep track of, i have only skimmed the surface. the
future of music coalition has a great web site (www.futureofmusic.org)
where you can get the lowdown on the whole policy summit. you can learn
all sides of the debates around telecommunications policy legislation,
copyright law, intellectual property rights, performance royalties,
health insurance, and digital sampling. more importantly you can learn
how you can become involved in the movement to protect our voices.


amy ray


stop the war on iraqi people! finding a peaceful solution does not
involve doing nothing.


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new hootie for march
posted on monday, january 27 @ 08:49:13 est by ajax (22 reads)

hootie & the blowfish have announced that they will release their first album
in five years on march 4. the first single self-titled album, "innocence,"
will hit airwaves on january 24. the album was produced by don was, except for
"innocence", which was produced by pete massitti. actor woody harrelson and
the indigo girls' emily saliers make guest appearances on vocals


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hey folks,


this was sent to the news-only list but it's more appropriate for=
here instead.
please direct any replies to the original sender at=
ericfl@usa.net, not to me,
thanks...


cheers,
sherlyn

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>hey all,
>
>i was wondering if anyone has 2 extra tickets for the south=
bend
>show at the morris performing arts center on february 2nd?  my
>boyfriend and i are driving back to ny cross country and will be=
in
>south bend on the 2nd, how could i pass up a girls concert if at=
all
>possible :)
>
>email: ericfl@usa.net
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>thanks!
>
>eric


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hi...i thought i'd put this out here one more time. i still have two sets of good tickets available for the madison show. i'm selling them for face value, plus the tm charges ($74.50 per pair).


one pair is row c (9th row) seats 145 & 146 (floor - right on the aisle).


the other pair is row d, seats 207 & 208 (circle seats - the balcony at the civic center starts over the floor at row 8, so these are good seats as well).


let me know asap if you're interested so i can get them out to you.


deb


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barb and all,


thanks for sharing the new notes with us!  i was
*really* surprised and proud to hear amy mention
senator russ feingold since he's my representative.
makes me proud to think i voted for the man.
wisconsin is a very split state, just barely
democratic but russ feingold has some great new ideas
and he honestly stands up for what he believes in.
it's refreshing and sadly not seen enough in politics.


just wanted to say thank you and cheer on the radio
revolution!  peace and love!


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~juliana


"part of emily is saying, 'we're working hard, and now you just shot us in the foot.' but i feel like we're shut out of that (rolling stone) anyway, so why not go out in a blaze of glory?" ~amy discussing emily's reaction to "lucystoners".


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