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date: sat, 1 feb 2003 08:33:38 -0500
reply-to: jason hare <hare@optonline.net>
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subject: re: speaking of b&p...& by songbook
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>january 30, 2003 - coming soon!
> the "become you" songbooks are hot off the press! these have just
>been completed and include all music sheets and guitar parts
> for the entire album as well as a color photo section from the
>recording sessions. these will be available online very soon, we'll pass

about time!! :-)
jason
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date: sat, 1 feb 2003 12:06:04 -0500
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subject: re: ebay horror stories, etc
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joy, you rock!! :) i am soooo jealous of this woman's mind =3d)
i have accepted $ for copying videos because it seems really ridiculous t=
o send a blank video tape through the mail and then send it back at today=
's mailing prices....but to start someone's ig collection, i would send t=
hem cassettes and let them learn the process like i did. then they truly=
will value what they create and hopefully the receiver will value it too=
.
jude :)get more from the web. free msn explorer download : <http://explor=/>
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date: sat, 1 feb 2003 17:36:24 -0600
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subject: for the acoustic shows
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is it just the girls?
anyone know about the opener?
talking about the chicago show
( hi greg!!)
pooh
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date: sat, 1 feb 2003 19:03:10 -0500
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> is it just the girls?
> anyone know about the opener?
it's the acoustic duo tour, so i assume it's just the two of them. neko case
is the opener - she's pretty good. <http://www.nekocase.com/>
i wish cordero and kim richey were opening in lexington. :)

anna
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date: sat, 1 feb 2003 23:51:37 -0600
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hey everyone,
are there any cdr boots of the suffragette shows available? i recall an
mp3 of a rockin version of
"power of 2" floating around, but have never found an entire show. i
can trade or do b&p.
diane
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date: sun, 2 feb 2003 00:15:59 -0600
reply-to: barbara bordner <ritesofpassage9@webtv.net>
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subject: re: for the acoustic shows
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have you heard kim richey? what kind of music does she do, and is she
any good ?
she's opening in mpls next saturday and i'll
have second row seats.
peace
barb
annacreechwrites <<i wish cordero and kim richey were opening in
lexington.>>
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involve doing nothing.
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date: sun, 2 feb 2003 07:48:50 -0000
reply-to: bev james <bevjames@ntlworld.com>
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subject: (nigc) catie curtis info?
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i've seen someone mention a cc list, but can only find 2 very dormant lists
at yahoo.
can anyone give me sub info for an active list?
thanks
bev
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date: sun, 2 feb 2003 09:16:45 -0800
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subject: re: for the acoustic shows
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go ! she is hard to explain - she's not like anyone
really, she has a unique style of her own. she's a
very very talented singer/songwriter with a beautiful
voice. her music is kinda country, kinda rock. i don't
think she leans in a particular direction. i just
think she plays and writes whatever she wants. i read
one review by a critic saying she is like lucinda
williams/bonnie raitt/aimee mann rolled into one,
whatever that means. all i know is that she is good.
see her if you can. she had an awesome band backing
her when i saw her this past november. on song somes
she would play solo acoustic though.
elaine
--- barbara bordner <ritesofpassage9@webtv.net> wrote:
> have you heard kim richey? what kind of music does
> she do, and is she
> any good ?
> she's opening in mpls next saturday and i'll
> have second row seats.
>
> peace
> barb
>
> annacreechwrites <<i wish cordero and kim richey
> were opening in
> lexington.>>
>
> stop the war on iraqi people! finding a peaceful
> solution does not
> involve doing nothing.
>
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date: sun, 2 feb 2003 18:19:45 -0800
reply-to: juliana smith <monkeemaidjules@yahoo.com>
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howdy ya'll,
a loooong time ago someone mentioned a show the girls
did with the author of "ttv" and affinity/fingersmith,
sarah waters. i dunno if boots are readily available
but i'd love to get my hands on a copy because i
absolutely adore sarah waters. i'm 3/4 way through
fingersmith and can't put it down! well, except to
write to you lovely folks, that is.
anyway, if anyone can help me obtain a copy i'd be
eternally grateful. email me privately, and i hope to
see some of you at the madison show on tuesday! i'm
*sooo* psyched. (but who isn't when their concert
finally comes up?) peace and much love!
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date: sun, 2 feb 2003 21:25:34 est
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subject: boot with kristen hall
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hi i am looking for "gumby" or anyone who may have some boots of kristen hall
from the ig concerts or anywhere else....any help here?
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date: mon, 3 feb 2003 00:12:04 -0500
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subject: birthdays (and then some)...february 3rd - 9th, 2003
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hey y'all!!!!!
i'm sending this out tonight because tomorrow i'm going to see the
girls (woohoooooo!!!!!) and i prolly won't be back til late and i
didn't wanna forget *grins* but for any of you listees that are going
(i know i don't post much these days besides the birthdays) that want
to say hi or dance together...i will be wearing my listee intimate
strangers shirt (indigo blue baybee!) and i will be (always) the tall
black one hanging with two short chicks wearing borrowed ig shirts :)
so come on over! :)
anyways...
february 9
aml@scn.org (ann m. labeck)

and belated happy birthdays (i hope i get this right!) because it
wasn't on the list at the time of dispatchment to:
january 27
shorje1973@insightbb.com (joey krimple)

if i missed any - let me know...i've been kinda spastic these past
few weeks.
love & devotion,
audra
bge

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date: sun, 2 feb 2003 23:27:20 est
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she's a country-leaning singer-songwriter of great talent, in my opinion! and
she's earthy and real. she sang a wxpn outdoor show a few years back, wearing
black leather pants and she was getting hot by the time she was over at the
autograph booth. as she chatted and signed for my partner, she commented: "it
sure is hot; my lips are sweatin'! haha, i don't think she was talking about
her smile :-)
deb
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date: mon, 3 feb 2003 01:12:18 -0600
reply-to: barbara bordner <ritesofpassage9@webtv.net>
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the ig come to mpls next week.......and today
i'm coming down with another bout of the flu, i've got a fever this
time, and sore throat, and headache!
normally i wouldn't grovel, but this show is important to me because i
worked hard at
my father's office just to raise money for the
concert. and i have never done that for a
concert!!!!
i got second row pit seats for two......at a very
exorbitant price from a ticket scalper on ebay,
i was that determined for the pit.
so if you pray.....please pray hard for me to get well enough to go.....

if you don't, sorry for the nigc.
peace
barb
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date: mon, 3 feb 2003 09:15:17 -0600
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i'd also like to offer up something to the list for b&p. since i got my
first boots from kind offers, i should share. if there is anyone out there
missing the attack of the killer b-sides b1-5 i will make copies. i will
take up to 20 requests. i chose this one simply because i have been making
so many copies of them for people on the ig booter list that i may as well
just keep it up!
e-mail me off list of course!
:)
mi rinda
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date: mon, 3 feb 2003 09:19:23 -0600
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i have also been looking for the minneapolis show that originally had that
"rockin" pot version. anyone out there have it? i could trade or do b&p.
thanks,
mi rinda
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sent: saturday, february 01, 2003 11:52 pm
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subject: suffragette boots?

hey everyone,
are there any cdr boots of the suffragette shows available? i recall an
mp3 of a rockin version of
"power of 2" floating around, but have never found an entire show. i
can trade or do b&p.
diane
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date: mon, 3 feb 2003 15:09:29 -0600
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from: traci drago <n_d_go_grl@hotmail.com>
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hi all,
i have two great tickets for the st. louis show at the pageant that are =
for sale. i am selling them for what i paid including tm charges, =
$70/pair. these are second row center balcony, the balcony is the only =
reserved section at the pageant, the floor is ga. also, you do have to =
be 21 or older to sit in the balcony. this is an awesome venue, i have =
yet to see ig there, but have seen many other bands there. this is much =
smaller than the fox theatre in which the girls usually play when they =
come to stl, so i picture it feeling pretty intimate. there were =
originally 6 of us going, but two of our friends are now going out of =
town that week. please email me privately if you are interested.
thanks
traci
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date: mon, 3 feb 2003 16:12:07 -0500
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emily is sick. no other details.
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date: mon, 3 feb 2003 15:39:40 -0600
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subject: re: tonight's show in iowa is cancelled
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oh, crud. did you see that on the website, or what? did they promise there
would be updates?
hope it's nothing serious!
(and, selfishly, hope they don't cancel madison!)
-andrea
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date: mon, 3 feb 2003 16:54:42 -0500
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actually, a fellow listee was supposed to go to the show tonight and she
learned it was cancelled and sent word to post it. thats all i know.
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oh, crud. did you see that on the website, or what? did they promise there
would be updates?
hope it's nothing serious!
(and, selfishly, hope they don't cancel madison!)
-andrea
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date: mon, 3 feb 2003 19:38:35 -0500
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from indigogirls.com:
february 3, 2003
tonight's show in iowa city at the iowa memorial union has been postponed.
the show has been rescheduled for the same time and venue for friday,
february 21st. tickets for tonight's show will be honored for the show on
the 21st. any questions should be directed to the venue.
tomorrow's show in madison, wisconsin is also being postponed. no info as of
yet on the rescheduled date, please keep checking back. all tickets for the
madison show will be honored at a later date. stay tuned . . .

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date: mon, 3 feb 2003 21:29:20 est
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hey y'all!
i have several items that i personally had signed by amy and emily. hard
times are forcing me to give them up. e-me if you are interested, and i'll
give you the details!
thanks!
robin
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date: mon, 3 feb 2003 22:22:20 -0500
reply-to: anne haines <ahaines@steel.ucs.indiana.edu>
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from: anne haines <ahaines@steel.ucs.indiana.edu>
subject: great ticket available for bloomington show
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hey all! i haven't posted here in about a billion years... due to someone
backing out on me, i have one ticket available for the bloomington, in
show this coming monday, feb. 10. this seat is in the third row -- row 3,
seat 2 (you can find a seating chart at
<http://iuauditorium.com/upload/images/orch.gif)>; it's kind of over to the
side, but i've been pretty close to that spot before and it's definitely
not so far over that you have to crane your neck to see or anything --
it's a really great seat. (you do have to sit next to me, but i'm not an
axe murderer or anything, i promise!)
i'll willingly eat the ticketmaster charges and let you have the ticket
for the $30 face value -- i may consider lower offers as well, 'cause i
hate to let such a lovely seat go to waste. (especially if you can throw
in a boot or some cookies or something! *grin*) i can't offer crash space
for out-of-towners, but can certainly help you find a place to stay,
directions to the venue, etc.
please reply directly to me at ahaines@indiana.edu and not to the list.
thanks!
-anne in indiana
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> tomorrow's show in madison, wisconsin is also being postponed. no info as of
> yet on the rescheduled date, please keep checking back. all tickets for the
> madison show will be honored at a later date. stay tuned . . .
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so how do we go about finding about about the chicago show on
thursday??????
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don't worry, there is a group of us definitely praying for you.

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it's sold out. you might be able to find tickets on ebay. i had tickets
for sale but they sold already, sorry.
on mon, 3 feb 2003, adp1 wrote:
> > tomorrow's show in madison, wisconsin is also being postponed. no info as of
> > yet on the rescheduled date, please keep checking back. all tickets for the
> > madison show will be honored at a later date. stay tuned . . .
> >
> >
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> so how do we go about finding about about the chicago show on
> thursday??????
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oh, sorry. you mean find out if it's cancelled? check indigogirls.com i
guess!
boy, this is way too bad, huh? i really hope emily's just got the flu or
something.
on mon, 3 feb 2003, adp1 wrote:
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> > yet on the rescheduled date, please keep checking back. all tickets for the
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> >
>
> so how do we go about finding about about the chicago show on
> thursday??????
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work seems to have screwed up my ability to post to the list, testing at
home....sorry for the post
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i'm crawling out of the woodwork very slowly to say
that i have the original copy of the mpls sst show.
however, it is not on cdr, it's on tape. first gen
from dat. if people are interested let me know and
i'd be willing to get a couple of copies out there on
tape as i don't have the capability of converting to
cdr at this time. or if there's someone out there
willing to transfer it to cdr we could see if there'd
be interest enough for a tree.
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someone here quoted kim richey, by coincidence, kim richey was a guest on the last "austin city limits" show that featured indigo girls. ig were on for the first half hour, richey was on for second. she is good country singer-songwriter. i've been impressed with her for years.
she co-wrote the radney foster hit country song "nobody wins" and the tricia yearwood song off of the album "thinkin' about you" called "those words we said." she has also released solo albums and she recorded her own verison of "those words we said". here are some lyrics from that song:
no matter how i try
i can't get far enough away
every sad song on my radio
sounds like it's custom made
i recently began reading a collection for lesbian short stories called "close calls". i enjoyed the stories i had read so far. yesterday, because i was home sick(just like emily), i continued reading. i came across rhomylly b. forbes's "when you wish upon the moon" and oh my goodness, was that a story. it starts with a character (who identifies herself as a dyke) who meets her old girlfriend because she needs help. from there, it becomes funny, touching and believe it or not, magical. the story was a complete original.
i do not know if this qualifies as a recommendation but i really enjoyed the story and had to share with someone. i'm feeling better by the way. maybe the story helped. ;)
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i suppose i am little late at resonding to this topic, as my mail has
been down, but in case you are interested some of the history behind the
idea explains why money is a no-no. basically in the days before
everyone had means to duplicate cds, there was tape trading but i don't
figure it was on the scale that cd-rs are being done today, so you found
more of your mom and pop cd stores selling bootleg cds often desinated
as "rare collectibles." so a lot of people were making a ton of cash
selling these bootlegs. the bands got nothing and more importantly to
the bigwigs of the record companies were getting nothing. so any money
being exchanged for a bootleg was not cool. then bands began to see
correlation between people trading performances and attendance at live
shows, then comes the idea of allowing people to record shows, so
performances became easier to get, and easier to bootleg, so groups like
the grateful dead for example had to adopt strict policies surround the
taping and distribution of shows. it was a two-edged sword so to speak.
the more people heard the live shows, the more people were coming to see
them live in person but the more access the more easy it was that
bootlegs were showing up in record shops or worse yet in the parking
lots of venues, which is still a problem. the bottom line was that any
money was a violation of a copyright law, regardles of whether is was to
cover the cost of the tapes that were being traded. in other words
wether
you take a loss or make a profit money is money. so you come to today
and taping/trading policies have evolved to encompase the digital age,
many people have servers and access to shows is easier than ever, funny
thing is if you read the fine print of trading policies by the grateful
dead, they are fine with people trading shows over the "net" however any
site that does it cannot have any commercial gain, so if you have
advertising banners for instance on your site then you are violating the policy.
and the bottom bottom line is that we should all respect the feelings of
the band and if that band says that no money should be exchanged only
media then regardless of how convenient it is or isn't, you should
probably adhere to what they think and with that said here is a short
segment of the phish taping policy:
> all taping must be for personal use only, which may include trading (via analog or digital
> tape, cd, or digital file transfer). recordings may be traded only for an equivalent
> amount of similar media (cassettes or cds, pre-recorded or blank)..........
> regardless of any expenses incurred, no
> money may ever be exchanged as part of a trade; however, stamped, self-addressed
> envelopes may be included with blank media. in addition, the media by which audio
> trading is publicized may not be commercialized. therefore newsletters, web sites, clubs,
> or any other communication forum facilitating audio trading cannot accept advertising,
> offer links for compensation, exploit databases compiled from their traffic, or otherwise
> derive any commercial proceeds in any form. stores or businesses may not offer to
> duplicate phish media for customers or sell or otherwise provide media containing
> unreleased phish music for any price. a statement of compliance with this policy must be
> clearly posted on all web sites engaged in trading activity.
with all that said, i am off and on a avid trader with somewhere on the
order of 1500 discs worth of shows etc. i say trade on, let your
conscience be your guide. if you were curious as to whether a band
allowed taping or not, check here, its lazily updated but fun nonethe less:
<http://btat.wagnerone.com/>
cheers -
todd <---- who doesn't trade dead and phish stuff
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anyone on this board seen this act?
please e-mail me privately and let me know if this act is any good.
can a russian indigo girls be far behind?
-scott

london (reuters) - a controversial russian pop duo accused of targeting the "dirty old man market" with lesbian kisses and schoolgirl outfits, shot to the top of the british singles chart sunday, the official uk charts company said.
tatu's debut single, "all the things she said," has already proved popular in the rest of europe, claiming the no. 1 spots in switzerland, italy and spain. it moved up 176 places to no. 1 in its second week in the uk charts, the official uk charts company said.
the band's name translates as "this girl loves that girl."
in the music video julia volkova and lena katina wear school uniforms and kiss and cuddle. child protection charity kidscape accused the pair of "targeting the dirty old man market."
british daytime television hosts, husband and wife team richard and judy, branded their antics "pedophile porn" and called for them to be banned.
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all i know is that "tatu" is not russian for "this girl loves that girl"
unless it is some slang term.
oh, i also know that the russian joan baez is zhana bichevskaya, and the
russian woody guthrie is bulat okoudjava. :)
on tue, 4 feb 2003 subcityii@aol.com wrote:
> anyone on this board seen this act?
>
> please e-mail me privately and let me know if this act is any good.
>
> can a russian indigo girls be far behind?
>
> -scott
>
>
> london (reuters) - a controversial russian pop duo accused of
> targeting the "dirty old man market" with lesbian kisses and
> schoolgirl outfits, shot to the top of the british singles chart
> sunday, the official uk charts company said.
>
> tatu's debut single, "all the things she said," has already proved
> popular in the rest of europe, claiming the no. 1 spots in
> switzerland, italy and spain. it moved up 176 places to no. 1 in its
> second week in the uk charts, the official uk charts company said.
>
> the band's name translates as "this girl loves that girl."
>
> in the music video julia volkova and lena katina wear school uniforms
> and kiss and cuddle. child protection charity kidscape accused the
> pair of "targeting the dirty old man market."
>
> british daytime television hosts, husband and wife team richard and
> judy, branded their antics "pedophile porn" and called for them to be
> banned.
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they aren't even close in style to indigo girls. you can check out more on
them here <http://www.mtv.com/news/yhif/tatu/>
"dirty old" susan :)
> anyone on this board seen this act?
>
> please e-mail me privately and let me know if this act is any good.
>
> can a russian indigo girls be far behind?
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> -scott
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so someone here posted that emily was sick, but our local radio station is
saying that amy has laryngitis. not that it matters, either way we don't
get to go to the show. but i'm just curious which is right. anyone have
more definitive info?
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hi there,
just wondering if anyone is from the oberlin college area?
i am travelling from toronto for the show with three friends and am =
requesting information on where to stay - oberlin or cleveland?
if anybody can offer some assistance - it would be greatly appreciated!!
thanks.
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according to the news from admin. of the official site, emily has a
flu-like cold or virus
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so someone here posted that emily was sick, but our local radio station
is
saying that amy has laryngitis. not that it matters, either way we don't
get to go to the show. but i'm just curious which is right. anyone have
more definitive info?
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thanks, good to know.
hope she got some tamiflu and lots of oj...
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> according to the news from admin. of the official site, emily has a
> flu-like cold or virus
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> subject: just what the matter is...
>
> so someone here posted that emily was sick, but our local radio station
> is
> saying that amy has laryngitis. not that it matters, either way we don't
> get to go to the show. but i'm just curious which is right. anyone have
> more definitive info?
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i don't really see any similarities between tatu and ig, other than the fact
that all four women identify as lesbians. for all that they're so very much an
out band, ig don't trade on sex at all - their queerness is more about identity
politics and fighting for equality. in centemporary russian culture, women can
hardly escape being sexualized, and that very much in terms of the male gaze.
these two, far from being an exception, seem to be trading on that - i would
liken them more to two women getting it on in a porn flick (and i don't mean
dyke porn) than to indigo girls. especially saince it doesn't look like they
write their own songs.
so yeah, no way this pair is anything like the indigo girls. too bad, too;
russians could probably use some role models in amy and emily's molds, for all
the reasons above.

> all i know is that "tatu" is not russian for "this girl loves that girl"
> unless it is some slang term.
at first i thought it might be an acronym, but i couldn't work it out.
mandy
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fyi, i don't know as fans can rely on hearing the gospel truth when it comes
to concert cancellations. i worked for a major promoter in the past and we
had several instances where shows had to be cancelled for a variety of
reasons, such as poor ticket sales or weird technical problems or artist
transportation issues, and the party line for show cancellation was that the
artist was ill. this is the most "acceptable" reason for a cancelled or
postponed show, thus it was the one given. emily may truly be under the
weather, but if she's not, this "line" would not be coming from her or amy
anyway, it would be coming from the concert promoter or sponsor of the
show(s).
i remember seeing the girls in boston a million years ago (okay, it was
winter 1991) and amy had a bad cold but was still out there breaking strings
and re-tuning her own guitar, in the days before sully. she was apologetic
and joked that they were on "the phlegm tour." :-)
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if you want to check out an out russian lesbian with real talent, visit
my friend alla ivanchikova's website <http://www.allarocks.com/>

peace,
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hey folks,
forwarded from the news list - please direct your replies to the original sender at mrowan@gmu.edu, not to me...
cheers,
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date: tue, 04 feb 2003 15:49:38 -0500
hey all-
as much as it pains me to miss it, i am just not going to be able to
attend the 2/18 show at the grand old opera house. therefore, if anybody
needs a ticket (parquet section row a seat 23 -- first row of the
section behind the pit - way amy's side), you can have/buy mine or
whatever. i think it was about $35 or something like that. anyway, if
you're interested shoot me an email (offlist), so we can work out the
arrangements for getting the ticket to you. and don't panic if i don't
reply terribly swiftly, i'm pretty busy these days- hence the reason i
have to miss the show- but i will get back to you, i promise!
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i'd never compare this duo to the musical and lyrical genius of ig , there is no comparison.
i doubt that they're lesbians, that looks more like a publicity stunt, it works well though. it's not my cup of tea at all but, i'm pleased to see anything that's gonna give britney a run for her money. lol ....cos if you don't you'll cry. flash in the pan me thinks.
p.s i'm pretty sure there are people in russia that know of the indigo girls and like their music.
~fury~
mandy burton <eburton@uchicago.edu> wrote:i don't really see any similarities between tatu and ig, other than the fact
that all four women identify as lesbians. for all that they're so very much an
out band, ig don't trade on sex at all - their queerness is more about identity
politics and fighting for equality. in centemporary russian culture, women can
hardly escape being sexualized, and that very much in terms of the male gaze.
these two, far from being an exception, seem to be trading on that - i would
liken them more to two women getting it on in a porn flick (and i don't mean
dyke porn) than to indigo girls. especially saince it doesn't look like they
write their own songs.
so yeah, no way this pair is anything like the indigo girls. too bad, too;
russians could probably use some role models in amy and emily's molds, for all
the reasons above.

> all i know is that "tatu" is not russian for "this girl loves that girl"
> unless it is some slang term.
at first i thought it might be an acronym, but i couldn't work it out.
mandy
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> p.s i'm pretty sure there are people in russia that know of the indigo girls
> and like their music.
well, there's one - my friend aryuna and i swapped favorite bands (i own three
cds by a band called nautilus pompilius, if you can believe that.) last time i
was there, though (1999) i spent a decent amount of time at the cd markets, and
ig were nowhere to be found. based on what else was popular, i don't really see
that changing anytime soon.
i'm sure there are some ig fans there, but i expect they're all either been to
america or have friends from here who passed music along.
mandy
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band in russia. it has been three years since i left, but these guys were so
many miles ahead of everyone else in popularity that i have confidence it hasn't
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i'm sure there are some ig fans there, but i expect they're all either been to
america or have friends from here who passed music along.
mandy


like we are all supposed to. lol ....everyone i meet (and like) gets an ig compilation cd, well, if they haven't heard them before that is.


is that band you are asking about the scorpions?
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hiya,
nope, they dont write their own stuff, nor are they lesbians. that's what i
hear from my very own personal russian friend. but i do hear that they are
kind of rolemodels for russia's gay youth - for their marketable looks
anyway. i have their album in english (guilty pleasure:) and it's nothing
special in a lasting value kind of way. definately not. but i have to admit,
it's fun - something different anyway. and as far as i know tatu should not
mean what was said it means.
russia's very own mle, kristen hall, rose polenzani, etc, etc, combined into
one - incredibly talented female singer songwriter is definately zemfira.
she's got deep lyrics and emilisque play of words, which i miss out on b/c
dont know the language that well (at all).
but definately worth checking out: www.zemfira.ru <http://www.zemfira.ru/> (unfortunately in
russian only). oh, and there's talk she's gay, and like the only major
female star that manages herself. she is not signed to any major record
labels. it is said that the emancipation of russian women in music starts
from now on...from where she's at, and what she is doing artistically.
it seems as if she is touring canada and the us this month, theres more info
in english on:
<http://7-40.com/zemfira/index.htm>

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mtv had a little clip of this duo in the corner during the credits for
the osbournes. it looks like the name is an abbreviation: t.a.t.u.

on wed, 5 feb 2003, kadri saar wrote:
> it's fun - something different anyway. and as far as i know tatu should not
> mean what was said it means.
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so it's the equivalent of calling in sick when your car breaks down? cute.
:) well, i'll just assume they're telling the truth.
i was at the hob show when amy was coming down with appendicitis, and
somone wrote me offlist and said they saw a show where amy had the flu.
maybe amy's just more of a stoic.
on tue, 4 feb 2003, heidi duncanson wrote:
> fyi, i don't know as fans can rely on hearing the gospel truth when it comes
> to concert cancellations. i worked for a major promoter in the past and we
> had several instances where shows had to be cancelled for a variety of
> reasons, such as poor ticket sales or weird technical problems or artist
> transportation issues, and the party line for show cancellation was that the
> artist was ill. this is the most "acceptable" reason for a cancelled or
> postponed show, thus it was the one given. emily may truly be under the
> weather, but if she's not, this "line" would not be coming from her or amy
> anyway, it would be coming from the concert promoter or sponsor of the
> show(s).
>
> i remember seeing the girls in boston a million years ago (okay, it was
> winter 1991) and amy had a bad cold but was still out there breaking strings
> and re-tuning her own guitar, in the days before sully. she was apologetic
> and joked that they were on "the phlegm tour." :-)
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like i said, i'm assuming emily really is sick. i was just saying that
maybe she's more willing than amy to admit defeat and go to bed with a
bowl of soup and a hot water bottle. (which i think amy should definitely
do when she's sick too. and all of you too - if you're sick, don't go to
work! stoicism just makes you miserable and gives everyone around you your
germs.)
on wed, 5 feb 2003, gabrielle michalek wrote:
> oh please! the norwalk virus is going around. in the past month a friend
> of mine in la and a friend in maine got it. right now half of my staff is
> out with it. cut the girl a break. unless you like watching people up on
> stage crapping in their pants.
>
> gabrielle
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> --on wednesday, february 05, 2003 10:19 am -0600 andrea crain
> <acrain@idea-inc.com> wrote:
>
> > so it's the equivalent of calling in sick when your car breaks down? cute.
> > :) well, i'll just assume they're telling the truth.
> >
> > i was at the hob show when amy was coming down with appendicitis, and
> > somone wrote me offlist and said they saw a show where amy had the flu.
> > maybe amy's just more of a stoic.
> >
> > on tue, 4 feb 2003, heidi duncanson wrote:
> >
> >> fyi, i don't know as fans can rely on hearing the gospel truth when it
> >> comes to concert cancellations. i worked for a major promoter in the
> >> past and we had several instances where shows had to be cancelled for a
> >> variety of reasons, such as poor ticket sales or weird technical
> >> problems or artist transportation issues, and the party line for show
> >> cancellation was that the artist was ill. this is the most "acceptable"
> >> reason for a cancelled or postponed show, thus it was the one given.
> >> emily may truly be under the weather, but if she's not, this "line"
> >> would not be coming from her or amy anyway, it would be coming from the
> >> concert promoter or sponsor of the show(s).
> >>
> >> i remember seeing the girls in boston a million years ago (okay, it was
> >> winter 1991) and amy had a bad cold but was still out there breaking
> >> strings and re-tuning her own guitar, in the days before sully. she was
> >> apologetic and joked that they were on "the phlegm tour." :-)
> >>
> >> heidi
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yesterday, i saw the video. although i don't classify it pornographic in any way, it is nothing special. also, their music is very pop/trendy sounding. not at all unique. no similarities to our girls. at the same time, i noticed that ani difranco is coming to st. louis and bitch and animal are coming with her. i listened to some of their music for the first time yesterday and frankly i thought they were awful! the only song that i heard that was ok (and it was only ok because it gave me a grin) was "best cock on the block." what's up with their music? apparently, they are making some sort of statement, but it sounds to me like a very unorganized "jam session" where no one really cares what the final sound is, just sort of messing around. any others with insight on this duo?
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bitch and animal are best seen live. their cds are mediocre, but better if you
have seen them perform the songs. they're very cocky, and i think their names
sum up their attitudes on stage (and what i've seen of them off-stage). they're
sort of the shock-rockers of the acoustic world. i think that they do have some
messages that are worth hearing, but sometimes it's hard to find them in the
middle of all the stuff that is meant to offend. my favorite piece that they
have done is called "pussy manifesto". you can read the lyrics here:
<http://www.bitchandanimal.com/pussy.html> (not for the easily offended - strong
language content)
anna
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these staid do-gooders, hair in a bun, glasses on the nose. in fact,
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i would definitely encourage people to see bitch & animal live. bitch's
wardrobe is enough reason to check them out. more importantly, they are both
talented musicians and dynamic people, with quite a bit to say. the first
time i saw them was up in vancouver, bc at their annual folk fest. it was
amazing to see them interact with everyone from utah phillips (who happens
to love 'em) to dan bern to toshi reagon.
speaking of utah...
can i just tell everyone something incredible that happened to me last
weekend? on sunday a group of friends, my girlfriend & myself went to go eat
at this great ethiopian place in town (portland, ore). who was sitting at
the table next to us? utah!!! my girlfriend went over & told him it was my
birthday, which he responded with, "well then, i suppose i should go on over
& tell her happy birthday." he hung out with us for a little bit, took
pictures with us & even sang happy birthday to me. !!! utah phillips is one
of my heroes, so as i'm sure you can understand, it made my day. :)
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hey kfs's
great news, i have a new job... although this won't effect anyone one of you directly, it's impact on my is profound!
as i sit in my cube, i wish for mp3's of my girls, so i can spread the love.
does anyone have a web site that i can pull some music off of?
thanks a million,
joe
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someone in line at ig shows this winter turned me on to them. while i think
the disc is inconsistent, i think they show some promise, and i like the
attitude. i'm looking forward to seeing them open for ani. (i just wish i'd
known about the denver onsale - anyone got any extra front tickets?)
before you write them off, take a listen to scrap metal. i think it's a
great track.
lauren
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i kind of liked their live performance as a novelty, and they're kinda
funny in their pointedly radical way. but i think they're just too
cacaphonous for a lot of people to really like listening to, myself
included. you have to like punky, riotous sort of stuff.
on wed, 5 feb 2003 indigotraveller@aol.com wrote:
> someone in line at ig shows this winter turned me on to them. while i think
> the disc is inconsistent, i think they show some promise, and i like the
> attitude. i'm looking forward to seeing them open for ani. (i just wish i'd
> known about the denver onsale - anyone got any extra front tickets?)
>
> before you write them off, take a listen to scrap metal. i think it's a
> great track.
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> lauren
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the website is still listing iowa and madison being postponed but
nothing about chicago.
anyone know anything about the show?
greg???
pooh
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> the website is still listing iowa and madison being postponed but
> nothing about chicago.
> anyone know anything about the show?
> greg???
hey pooh! i called ticketbastard, checked their site and called the box
office at the chicago theater. all said they had not heard of any
postponement or cancellation of the chicago show for tomorrow. so let's
keep our fingers crossed that it's on. i'll be lookin for ya down front
from the nose bleed seats. anyone who has heard otherwise about the show
please post! thanks--greg
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everybody's gotta have a gimmick, and tatu's gimmick is 'gay.' whether they
really are or not has been made into a teasing hush-hush situation that
seems to be a big sham. fyi, the video is eye candy-- the song mentioned
below is about two teenage girls who have a relationship and shows the two
singers (who are aged 17 and 18, so i'm not sure why a "child" protection
charity is concerned) kissing and being generally scorned. they also have a
song called, loosely translated, 'gay boy.'
i went to the american website and read some of the bulletin boards. my
personal verdict? it's a marketing ploy. see for yourself-- they're at
<http://www.tatugirls.com/>.
and a big yeehaw to mandy, who managed to work not just 'male gaze' but
'idealogue' as well into her post. nice.
jill
p.s.: ladies, bitch is wack but animal's super cute.

>london (reuters) - a controversial russian pop duo accused of targeting the
>"dirty old man market" with lesbian kisses and schoolgirl outfits, shot to
>the top of the british singles chart sunday, the official uk charts company
>said.
>
>tatu's debut single, "all the things she said," has already proved popular
>in the rest of europe, claiming the no. 1 spots in switzerland, italy and
>spain. it moved up 176 places to no. 1 in its second week in the uk charts,
>the official uk charts company said.
>
>the band's name translates as "this girl loves that girl."
>
>in the music video julia volkova and lena katina wear school uniforms and
>kiss and cuddle. child protection charity kidscape accused the pair of
>"targeting the dirty old man market."
>
>british daytime television hosts, husband and wife team richard and judy,
>branded their antics "pedophile porn" and called for them to be banned.

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stay in oberlin; cleveland is too far. your two choices in town are the
oberlin inn (<http://www.oberlininn.com/>) or the ivy tree inn bed&breakfast
(<http://www.grayco.com/cleveland/bandb/sample5.html>). both are within quick
(5 minutes or less) walking distance of finney chapel and, well, all of
oberlin in general.
a list of other local lodging can be found at
<http://www.oberlin.edu/~chess/hotels.html>.
jill, oberlin alum

>hi there,
>just wondering if anyone is from the oberlin college area?
>i am travelling from toronto for the show with three friends and am
>requesting information on where to stay - oberlin or cleveland?
>if anybody can offer some assistance - it would be greatly appreciated!!
>thanks.
>tami

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im sorry for a bit of an incorrect info yesterday. i have since learned that
t.a.t.u. does indeed mean "she loves her" - "ta lubit tu"...
well i guess you live you learn:)
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everybody's gotta have a gimmick, and tatu's gimmick is 'gay.' whether they
really are or not has been made into a teasing hush-hush situation that
seems to be a big sham. fyi, the video is eye candy-- the song mentioned
below is about two teenage girls who have a relationship and shows the two
singers (who are aged 17 and 18, so i'm not sure why a "child" protection
charity is concerned) kissing and being generally scorned. they also have a
song called, loosely translated, 'gay boy.'
i went to the american website and read some of the bulletin boards. my
personal verdict? it's a marketing ploy. see for yourself-- they're at
<http://www.tatugirls.com/>.
and a big yeehaw to mandy, who managed to work not just 'male gaze' but
'idealogue' as well into her post. nice.
jill
p.s.: ladies, bitch is wack but animal's super cute.

>london (reuters) - a controversial russian pop duo accused of targeting the
>"dirty old man market" with lesbian kisses and schoolgirl outfits, shot to
>the top of the british singles chart sunday, the official uk charts company
>said.
>
>tatu's debut single, "all the things she said," has already proved popular
>in the rest of europe, claiming the no. 1 spots in switzerland, italy and
>spain. it moved up 176 places to no. 1 in its second week in the uk charts,
>the official uk charts company said.
>
>the band's name translates as "this girl loves that girl."
>
>in the music video julia volkova and lena katina wear school uniforms and
>kiss and cuddle. child protection charity kidscape accused the pair of
>"targeting the dirty old man market."
>
>british daytime television hosts, husband and wife team richard and judy,
>branded their antics "pedophile porn" and called for them to be banned.

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or miriam's site <http://ig.rocks.it/> (down for maintenance right now
though)
or
www.indigogirls.de <http://www.indigogirls.de/>
be well,
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anyone out there listen to jesse sykes and want to give his/her opinion??
she is being quoted here in france as an amazing folk singer.....and i have
never heard of her. wanted to know if it was true. thanks...........me


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hfks,
on my solo adventure from maine to alaska and the arctic circle last summer,
(14,000 mls. r/t - yes, that's 14,000, and not 1,400 mls.),
i stopped along the way to see my sister in indiana,
and take her to her first ever ig, and melissa concerts.
both were wonderful events, but, for whatever reason, i didn't boot them.
so.....i was wondering if anyone has a good cd of these concerts.
the experience was so incredible, and it's all wrapped up in the midnight
sun (which was phoenominal!), and the arctic circle, and falling in love
with alaska (not in alaska), the eskimo games, the yukon territory, and
roslyn washington (filming site of northern exposure).
what a great summer!!!
....not to mention the incredible bonding experience it was
to go to these two concerts with my baby sister.
....oh, and norah jones, too.
i couldn't get her cd out of my player all the way there!
i find it important to take full advantage of the time
that i don't have a partner :)
so anyway, back to the boots........
if anyone has either one of these, or both,
i would be very happy to send my own supplies :)
ok, back to my dissertation (enough stalling!)
i hope they're out there. thank you.
kate
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hi...ticketmaster is showing the rescheduled date as tuesday, april 08, 2003 7:30pm. the show is still to be at the civic center.
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the canadian newspaper the globe and mail has an item titled "the great pop
'n' porn swindle" today saying
tatu - whose name is derived from russian slang for
"this girl (ta) loves that one (tu) - ...
you can find it at <http://www.globeandmail.com/> by searching for the author's
name, "mark mackinnon" i couldn't extra a useful url.
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not sure if this has been posted---zagat (the people who do restaurant guides) is now coming out with a "best music" guide. you can go online and vote for the best albums of all time, and indigo girls' first album is up there. you can also put in write in votes. ig is in the "singer/singwriter" category. it seems like a cool idea, and many of the artists i listen to are listed. you can vote on as many albums as you want, add comments, and say which is your favorite song off the album. the address is:
<http://www.zagat.com/survey/index.asp?vid=1&pid=1&lid=3>
click on the "music guide". enjoy everyone!
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> hey everyone,
>
> if you don't already know about this site, i want to let you know about
> launch.com....it's pretty cool, you get to rate artists, songs, albums,
> etc... and then you have your own personal radio station. they have lots
> of ig stuff, and it's free for the basic service.
>
> this is my station link as an example:
> <http://launch.yahoo.com/launchcast/station.asp?u=1031866067>
>
> :)
> jennifer
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did anyone see the u of illinois/urbana show last sat.?
looking forward to tonight in chicago...hoping emily is ok!
peace,
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hfks,
ok, i am getting ready to upgrade my booting equipment.
i want to make cd boots from the concerts,
which i have not done since i used my cassette player.
i have an ibook with itunes.
i need a new recording devise.
any thoughts?
thanks for your help.
kate in vermont,
who wishes we had good weather, so i could do the midwest tour w/ the girls.
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well my guess is that emily has gotten well. what a fun show. i admit that
this was my first indigo girls show from an upper balcony. it was a unique
experience. it seems like there's a different level of fan up there. i
swear on my life the following question was uttered into my ears and it
didn't even bother me--so how long have amy and emily been dating? yup you
heard it correctly. the greatest part was that after 42 shows, this
question amused me more than it incensed me. maybe the several pre-show
beers helped mellow me out. either way, it was a fantastic show even from
way up high. it's fun seeing shows near people who have never seen them. i
highly recommend binoculars. you can see everything through those things.
the girls were in high spirits commenting several times on how much they
love to play chicago. i would attempt a setlist but know i'd be way off. a
few songs i recall: opened with become you. ended with galileo. in between
included old favorites like kid fears, wood song, power of two, ctf,
chickenman (with a cool bitteroot rendition in the middle), get out the map,
least complicated, go, jonas & ezekial etc. they "squeezed in" virginia
woolf as there were so many requests for it screamed out. i think the hours
movie had something to do with that. emily screwed it up by singing "anger
on the cage" in stead of stage. she stopped, we giggled and they started
over.
amy chatted about indian political issues for awhile and the began a song
stating "this has nothing to do with that". i've seen them chattier but
overall they seemed very excited about the audience participation. there
was an emily recommendation to go to the lobby tables for anti-war
propaganda.
it took the whole show to read amy's shirt. she originally had on what
looked like a green a black flannel (remember i am relying on binoculars
here). she shed the flannel for her sleeveless top which read in sequins:
american beauty. very cute.
the best part of the show was that it was with no band and all acoustic. i
haven't seen an all acoustic show in years. what a difference it made on
certain songs. collecting you was phenomenal with no back up. it was just
so nostalgic for all those seeking ig of old. they are so crisp and you can
really hear the singing so much more without the band. after all the shows
they are still so much fun to see live. hope you all get a chance to see em
soon.....time for bed....greg
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yea, what greg said!!
> it took the whole show to read amy's shirt. she originally had on what
> looked like a green a black flannel (remember i am relying on binoculars
> here). she shed the flannel for her sleeveless top which read in sequins:
> american beauty. very cute.
>
it wasn't flannel but some kind of stiff cotton blazer. it looked like
it itched which may be way she took it off so soon!!!
i can give you a set list once i listen to the tape ( yes i did boot it
but boy was security tight, frisked everyone..good thing i put the
recorder in a place i remember sus using a few years ago..) even at the
end gargantuan sized security folk rushed to the stage and snatched away
cameras from those who thought they might sneak a pix.
emily looked just fine, but then i always think she looks fine. amy
looked pale but sure looked like she was having a great time.
amy talked about going to the field museum and looking at the stuffed
birds...which , for her, was great because she always had to use
binocolurs...until it occurred to her that they were dead....so she
went across the hall to the native american display and liked that until
she realized they were all dead. and stuffed...
emily talked about having an article send to her that read "virginia
wolfe makes me vomit"....got a great laugh out of that.
this was the first time i was able to listen to chicken man ( sorry, i
just don't like it) but i think it was because there wasn't a soc from
amy but rather a long blusey jam from em on guitar.
all in all great show..managed to turn my 14 year old daughter into a
tried and true fan..our species will continue!
let you know when the boot is ready
pooh
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my 19 yo son and i have a deep love of music in common. we are both very into lyrics. i will one day bring his korn, kid rock, godsmack loving self to an ig concert. he has seen videos and lord knows he's heard the music. he appreciates their talent, but says it is not his cup of tea. i just know if he ever saw them live, he would respect them even more. it is a goal of mine... ;)
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wow! thanks for the great review. it just fires me up to see them
monday in bloomington!
>>> greg flamer <gflame@ameritech.net> 02/07/03 12:31am >>>
well my guess is that emily has gotten well. what a fun show. i admit
that
this was my first indigo girls show from an upper balcony. it was a
unique
experience. it seems like there's a different level of fan up there.
i
swear on my life the following question was uttered into my ears and
it
didn't even bother me--so how long have amy and emily been dating? yup
you
heard it correctly. the greatest part was that after 42 shows, this
question amused me more than it incensed me. maybe the several
pre-show
beers helped mellow me out. either way, it was a fantastic show even
from
way up high. it's fun seeing shows near people who have never seen
them. i
highly recommend binoculars. you can see everything through those
things.
the girls were in high spirits commenting several times on how much
they
love to play chicago. i would attempt a setlist but know i'd be way
off. a
few songs i recall: opened with become you. ended with galileo. in
between
included old favorites like kid fears, wood song, power of two, ctf,
chickenman (with a cool bitteroot rendition in the middle), get out the
map,
least complicated, go, jonas & ezekial etc. they "squeezed in"
virginia
woolf as there were so many requests for it screamed out. i think the
hours
movie had something to do with that. emily screwed it up by singing
"anger
on the cage" in stead of stage. she stopped, we giggled and they
started
over.
amy chatted about indian political issues for awhile and the began a
song
stating "this has nothing to do with that". i've seen them chattier
but
overall they seemed very excited about the audience participation.
there
was an emily recommendation to go to the lobby tables for anti-war
propaganda.
it took the whole show to read amy's shirt. she originally had on
what
looked like a green a black flannel (remember i am relying on
binoculars
here). she shed the flannel for her sleeveless top which read in
sequins:
american beauty. very cute.
the best part of the show was that it was with no band and all
acoustic. i
haven't seen an all acoustic show in years. what a difference it made
on
certain songs. collecting you was phenomenal with no back up. it was
just
so nostalgic for all those seeking ig of old. they are so crisp and
you can
really hear the singing so much more without the band. after all the
shows
they are still so much fun to see live. hope you all get a chance to
see em
soon.....time for bed....greg
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date: fri, 7 feb 2003 07:32:07 -0600
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hey greg, pooh and all you wonderful ig fans,
the chicago show was great! i will write more later when i can. now i'm at school and have to get ready to teach. loved reading your review, greg. just a quick correction: em actually sang:
"see this an hour on the page"
and then said "s--t!...that would be a long time to spend on one page..." or something to that effect. it was hilarious! a friend i was with said afterwards that with her reading comp difficulties, it just might take her an hour for a page!!!
gotta go.
peace,
michele

>from: greg flamer
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>subject: chicago show
>date: thu, 6 feb 2003 23:31:58 -0600
>
>well my guess is that emily has gotten well. what a fun show. i admit that
>this was my first indigo girls show from an upper balcony. it was a unique
>experience. it seems like there's a different level of fan up there. i
>swear on my life the following question was uttered into my ears and it
>didn't even bother me--so how long have amy and emily been dating? yup you
>heard it correctly. the greatest part was that after 42 shows, this
>question amused me more than it incensed me. maybe the several pre-show
>beers helped mellow me out. either way, it was a fantastic show even from
>way up high. it's fun seeing shows near people who have never seen them. i
>highly recommend binoculars. you can see everything through those things.
>
>the girls were in high spirits commenting several times on how much they
>love to play chicago. i would attempt a setlist but know i'd be way off. a
>few songs i recall: opened with become you. ended with galileo. in between
>included old favorites like kid fears, wood song, power of two, ctf,
>chickenman (with a cool bitteroot rendition in the middle), get out the map,
>least complicated, go, jonas & ezekial etc. they "squeezed in" virginia
>woolf as there were so many requests for it screamed out. i think the hours
>movie had something to do with that. emily screwed it up by singing "anger
>on the cage" in stead of stage. she stopped, we giggled and they started
>over.
>
>amy chatted about indian political issues for awhile and the began a song
>stating "this has nothing to do with that". i've seen them chattier but
>overall they seemed very excited about the audience participation. there
>was an emily recommendation to go to the lobby tables for anti-war
>propaganda.
>
>it took the whole show to read amy's shirt. she originally had on what
>looked like a green a black flannel (remember i am relying on binoculars
>here). she shed the flannel for her sleeveless top which read in sequins:
>american beauty. very cute.
>
>the best part of the show was that it was with no band and all acoustic. i
>haven't seen an all acoustic show in years. what a difference it made on
>certain songs. collecting you was phenomenal with no back up. it was just
>so nostalgic for all those seeking ig of old. they are so crisp and you can
>really hear the singing so much more without the band. after all the shows
>they are still so much fun to see live. hope you all get a chance to see em
>soon.....time for bed....greg
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greg,
good review! funny that someone asked you about them being a couple. at
one of the shows that i was at they played chickenman and the crowd was
going crazy and everything. after the song was over this guy behind me taps
me on the shoulder and asked me what the name of that song was! i kind of
chuckled as i told him what it was. amy says "chickenman" like 500 times
during that song, i would think that it's a safe bet that is the name of it.
glad to hear that em is better, and after that review i am sooo excited for
tomorrow night!!!
take care,
mi rinda
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well my guess is that emily has gotten well. what a fun show. i admit that
this was my first indigo girls show from an upper balcony. it was a unique
experience. it seems like there's a different level of fan up there. i
swear on my life the following question was uttered into my ears and it
didn't even bother me--so how long have amy and emily been dating? yup you
heard it correctly. the greatest part was that after 42 shows, this
question amused me more than it incensed me. maybe the several pre-show
beers helped mellow me out. either way, it was a fantastic show even from
way up high. it's fun seeing shows near people who have never seen them. i
highly recommend binoculars. you can see everything through those things.
the girls were in high spirits commenting several times on how much they
love to play chicago. i would attempt a setlist but know i'd be way off. a
few songs i recall: opened with become you. ended with galileo. in between
included old favorites like kid fears, wood song, power of two, ctf,
chickenman (with a cool bitteroot rendition in the middle), get out the map,
least complicated, go, jonas & ezekial etc. they "squeezed in" virginia
woolf as there were so many requests for it screamed out. i think the hours
movie had something to do with that. emily screwed it up by singing "anger
on the cage" in stead of stage. she stopped, we giggled and they started
over.
amy chatted about indian political issues for awhile and the began a song
stating "this has nothing to do with that". i've seen them chattier but
overall they seemed very excited about the audience participation. there
was an emily recommendation to go to the lobby tables for anti-war
propaganda.
it took the whole show to read amy's shirt. she originally had on what
looked like a green a black flannel (remember i am relying on binoculars
here). she shed the flannel for her sleeveless top which read in sequins:
american beauty. very cute.
the best part of the show was that it was with no band and all acoustic. i
haven't seen an all acoustic show in years. what a difference it made on
certain songs. collecting you was phenomenal with no back up. it was just
so nostalgic for all those seeking ig of old. they are so crisp and you can
really hear the singing so much more without the band. after all the shows
they are still so much fun to see live. hope you all get a chance to see em
soon.....time for bed....greg
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i wrote a letter to the editor in response to a rather negative news article
about ig's show postpondment in iowa city. my letter was published in
today's daily iowan. it can be accessed at:
<a href="<http://www.dailyiowan.com/>"><http://www.dailyiowan.com</a%3e>
there is no direct link. if you want to read it, click on "opinions" (on the
left side of the screen), and once you are on the opinions page, click on
"letters to the editor" (or it may just say "letters"). my letter is the
second (and last) one on the page.
chicago was brilliant last night! here's to a great milwaukee show
tonight!!!
:-) karen
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date: fri, 7 feb 2003 09:41:37 -0600
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you go!
for those who don't want to register, here's the text of karen's kick-ass
letter.


compassion for indigo
being an enormous indigo girls fan, i came from
california to follow amy ray and
emily saliers on their midwest tour. i, like university
of northern iowa student betsie
driscoll, was disappointed to see that the show was
canceled. however, i believe that
driscoll's quote was incredibly inappropriate (di, feb.
4). she said, "i still like the
indigo girls. i'm still a fan, and i'm going to come
back. but i'm also pretty mad. i
mean, their job is to perform. they should stick it
out."
not only is "sticking it out" an unrealistic request in
this scenario, but driscoll (and
everyone else quoted in the article) shows a complete
lack of compassion for saliers'
health. touring is hard work. and hard work is something
that ray and saliers have
perfected. not only do they often play more than 200
shows per year, this year, they are
also embarking on a speaking tour with winona laduke,
and they have plans to
record and release a new album by the end of the year.
in addition, ray and saliers
are fervent activists who devote endless time and money
to social causes.
people get sick. shows get canceled. life goes on. in
this case, saliers came down
with laryngitis, and it would have been impossible for
the show to go on. the indigo
girls appeases its fans above and beyond the call of
duty already. a little compassion
would have been nice.
karen rosenblum
oakland, calif.
on fri, 7 feb 2003, karen r. wrote:
> i wrote a letter to the editor in response to a rather negative news article
> about ig's show postpondment in iowa city. my letter was published in
> today's daily iowan. it can be accessed at:
>
> <a href="<http://www.dailyiowan.com/>"><http://www.dailyiowan.com</a%3e>
>
> there is no direct link. if you want to read it, click on "opinions" (on the
> left side of the screen), and once you are on the opinions page, click on
> "letters to the editor" (or it may just say "letters"). my letter is the
> second (and last) one on the page.
>
> chicago was brilliant last night! here's to a great milwaukee show
> tonight!!!
>
> :-) karen
>
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date: fri, 7 feb 2003 07:46:14 -0800
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nice one!


~fury~


compassion for indigo
being an enormous indigo girls fan, i came from
california to follow amy ray and
emily saliers on their midwest tour. i, like university
of northern iowa student betsie
driscoll, was disappointed to see that the show was
canceled. however, i believe that
driscoll's quote was incredibly inappropriate (di, feb.
4). she said, "i still like the
indigo girls. i'm still a fan, and i'm going to come
back. but i'm also pretty mad. i
mean, their job is to perform. they should stick it
out."
not only is "sticking it out" an unrealistic request in
this scenario, but driscoll (and
everyone else quoted in the article) shows a complete
lack of compassion for saliers'
health. touring is hard work. and hard work is something
that ray and saliers have
perfected. not only do they often play more than 200
shows per year, this year, they are
also embarking on a speaking tour with winona laduke,
and they have plans to
record and release a new album by the end of the year.
in addition, ray and saliers
are fervent activists who devote endless time and money
to social causes.
people get sick. shows get canceled. life goes on. in
this case, saliers came down
with laryngitis, and it would have been impossible for
the show to go on. the indigo
girls appeases its fans above and beyond the call of
duty already. a little compassion
would have been nice.
karen rosenblum
oakland, calif.
on fri, 7 feb 2003, karen r. wrote:
> i wrote a letter to the editor in response to a rather negative news article
> about ig's show postpondment in iowa city. my letter was published in
> today's daily iowan. it can be accessed at:
>
> <http://www.dailyiowan.com/>
>
> there is no direct link. if you want to read it, click on "opinions" (on the
> left side of the screen), and once you are on the opinions page, click on
> "letters to the editor" (or it may just say "letters"). my letter is the
> second (and last) one on the page.
>
> chicago was brilliant last night! here's to a great milwaukee show
> tonight!!!
>
> :-) karen
>
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date: fri, 7 feb 2003 10:42:31 est
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anyone in (or around) iowa city who would be willing to mail me a hard copy
of today's daily iowan? i would be really grateful. let me know. thanks in
advance!
:-) karen
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i f no one has copy, try writing or emailing the editor. i had letters published in papers and i asked for a copies and they sent them to me, foc. maybe they'll do that . i don't know. might be worth a try though.
"karen r." <indigokare@aol.com> wrote:anyone in (or around) iowa city who would be willing to mail me a hard copy
of today's daily iowan? i would be really grateful. let me know. thanks in
advance!
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i was wondering if anyone knows the password to preorder tickets for the
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> a quick correction: em actually sang:
> "see this an hour on the page"
> and then said "s--t!...that would be a long time to spend on one page..." or
> something to that effect.
she actually said "i know.... you don't spend an hour on the page, you spend an
hour on the stage... i must be channeling that hateful writer" (the one who'd
writen the "virginia woolf makes me want to vomit" column.) the intro to the
song was really funny, too - emily opened by quoting the article title. then she
and amy talked a little about how they hadn't sung this in awhile, and they
certainly hadn't practiced it... and then emily flung her hands out to either
side and said "but whatever. you can take over for us."
now that i now pooh has a boot (yay!) i won't take a stab at the setlist, but i
do know that they played devotion and hope alone, neither of which i had never
heard live before, and dairy queen, which gets better every time i hear it. they
also played least complicated, which i was pleased about because it's my
favorite sing-along and they so often skip it these days.
notable omissions: moment of forgiveness and our deliverance. i like both those
songs a lot, but i've almost started to feel that they are a waste of a spot in
the setlist (od much more than mof) so i was pleased.
i hit twenty show with this one - like greg, i was up in the balcony (damn those
internet pre-sales!) where i also haven't been for some years. i was slightly
surprised to realize that one can, in fact, still see from up high, and hear as
well (except when the women behind us decided that since they didn't know
starkville they could just talk through it - grrrr.) it felt sota mellower up
there, but that may also have been the vibe of the whole show - mellow in a good
way. it was really an excellent concert.
oh, and chickenman rocked. emily took a big ol' bluesy solo in the middle, and
then they did all of bitterroot just before the "i went looking" part (i'd never
seen them do a big guitar break ad bitterroot in the same performance).
mandy
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hey kare -
i got yer daily iowan right heah! i can get you one, no prob. but
you gotta come find me at the concert to get it *lol*
--audra
*smooch* :)


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beyond the reach of other desires. no-one can legislate love;
it cannot be given orders or cajoled into service. love belongs
to itself, deaf to pleading and unmoved by violence. love is
not something you can negotiate. love is the one thing stronger
than desire and the only proper reason to resist temptation."
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i admit, i was selfishly kinda hoping (since it was entirely beyond my
control anyway) that shows would continue to be postponed, because i've got
the greatest ticket of my life to the minneapolis show tomorrow night and
i've also got a bad case of mono. it's a single ticket, 2nd or 3rd row amy
side, and i was/am thrilled to be going alone and hopefully rocking out. or
merely making it through without falling over.
basically, this is an email to put an alert out to minneapolis area folks
that there might be a great ticket available, but it would only become
available on really short notice. i'm going to see how i feel, and what will
probably happen is that i'll at least try to go, but may (sob!) leave early.
in that case, i would be happy to hand off my ticket stub on my way out to a
listee in less fortunate seating, if we could only work out a way to
communicate with one another.
so. i won't do this in order of reply, but rather in the creativity and
horribleness of the current seats. in a response, let me know if a) you
would be interested in buying the ticket (face value or whatever) the evening
of the show, if i'm just feeling too low to try to go (which isn't very
likely) and b) if you would like to maybe get my stub (free) if i leave early.
please all, i hope this is all a false alarm and i feel great tomorrow.
in that case, i do apologize for raising false hopes. but i wanted to make
sure this seat goes to good use if i'm not the one using it.
sincerely, and sickly,
lisa
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just a reminder for those who care...
susan tedeschi is scheduled to be on leno tonight...
mark lichtenberger
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i look and try to understand, and wonder how she knows
so i must be going now, i'm losing time my friend
looking for a rainbow, down this highway in the wind"
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