lifeblood: listlogs: 2003-07c


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date:         tue, 15 jul 2003 22:03:10 +0200
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hi all,

a friend of mine has spare tix to the following shows:

melissa etheridge, bethlehem musikfest aug 10th

ani difranco, wolftrap on aug 13th

ig, wolftrap, on aug 18th

if you're interested in any of these, then please contact him at this e-
mail addy:
vaughns@hotmail.com

and please use a subject line like "ani tix", etc. it'll be easier to tell your
mail from all the spam at hotmail addies;), thx!!

be well,
kathrin

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date:         wed, 16 jul 2003 10:58:57 edt
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subject:      wxpn cancels "amazon country"
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apologies for the cross-posting. i called the station and talked to someone
at member services, and it is true. here is an email i got on the subject,
which includes some ideas for working on this.
deb
> ********************
>
> save amazon country!!!
> longest running "women's music" radio show canceled
> by wxpn
>
> what has happened? > amazon country, an award-winning radio program
> explicitly dedicated to > lesbian and feminist perspectives and music, has
> been canceled with two weeks' > notice by its host station's management,
after 29
> years as a mainstay of > philadelphia's lesbian and feminist communities.
>
> why is this a problem?
>
o    amazon country, on the air since 1974, is the longest running "women's
music" radio show in the country, and represents an important cultural
legacy.
o    amazon country is a unique program in the philadelphia area, and as such
is the only place in radio where lesbian and  feminist lives and experiences
are reflected.  this is an under-served and under-recognized audience.  in
addition to providing a connection to lesbian and feminist music and culture,
amazon country is a source of information about events and issues relevant to
our communities.
o    amazon country provides an outlet in philadelphia for musicians who
rarely get air play anywhere else.  small performance venues and independent
producers also rely upon amazon country to promote these events to their target
audiences.  independent artists and small venues are increasingly shut out by
commercial and corporate radio environments.  amazon country represents the true
spirit of community-based public radio.

what is wxpn's rationale?
o    wxpn management has stated that they are interested in making more air
time available for "family oriented" radio on sunday evening.  (apparently
lesbian/feminist families don't count!)  their new  sunday line-up will add
an
hour of kids' corner on sunday evening (which runs 4  shows a week currently,
m-th), move the folk music show, and push q-zine to 11pm (an "adult" time
slot?).
o    wxpn management claims that q-zine (a weekly queer arts and culture
magazine) addresses the same community and interests, although they
acknowledge that they made this decision themselves, with no dialogue or
consultation with anyone in/of these communities.
o    over the past few years, wxpn has moved to increasingly homogenous
programming, eliminating some independent and unique programs and pushing
others to the least desirable time slots in favor of promoting
world cafe and similar material.
>
    several years ago, wxpn tried to cancel amazon country, claiming that the
audience was too small to matter.  when a broad base of concerned listeners
raised a fuss, they re-considered.  it must be noted that for the past 5
years
wxpn has not allowed the current host, debra d'alessandro, to do on-air
fund-raising during the time of the show, denying her the opportunity to
demonstrate clearly that there is an audience base for this show.  despite
the fact that they dismantled amazon country's website, wxpn management has also
prohibited debra from announcing the termination of the program
until the last  show (currently scheduled for july 27th)  in an apparent
effort to silence dissent and avoid accountability to the community.
  we must let wxpn know that this show matters, that we are listening, and
that we are pissed!!!  whether you are a regular listener, an occasional
listener, an independent artist, a lesbian and/or feminist, a supporter of
women's music and culture, or a proponent of truly diverse community-based
public
radio, we must join together to show a mass movement of support for the
preservation of amazon country!
>
>
what you can do:
o    let wxpn know that you oppose this decision:
       - call the station at 1-800-565-wxpn or 215-898-6677  and register
your opinion.
        - email the station at wxpndesk@pobox.upenn.edu
       - write or stop by the station at 3905
spruce st., philadelphia, pa  19104.
which ever method(s) you use, ask to speak with
or have your message forwarded to roger lamay, general manager and/or
bruce warren, program director.
be specific about what you value about the show and why you think canceling
it
is wrong.
o    go to www.petitiononline.com/zon3953/petition.html  and sign an online
petition that will be used to show wxpn management how many of us are out
here
and care about this.
o    if you are a member of wxpn, make sure to express your outrage to member
services at  memberservices@xpn.org .  make sure you
let them know that you are a member.  consider whether you want to continue
supporting wxpn given their current actions, and let them know what you
think.  put "save amazon country" in the subject heading.  or send snail mail
addressed to member services,
wxpn.>
o    if you are not a member of wxpn, think about what amazon country (and
all of what it represents) is worth to you and to
our communities.  are you willing to pledge to join wxpn if they agree to
keep
amazon country on the air?
(a year's membership costs $50.)  if so, go to
http://www.petitiononline.com/supp703/petition.html
to sign a different petition than the one mentioned above.   this is not a
pledge commitment, but a statement of intention, and the kind of thing that may
get the attention of wxpn's management.

o    if you are from outside of the philadelphia listening area, let them
know why you care.  be sure to mention if you are one of those people who
listens to the show via live webcast.
o    if you have been featured on amazon country, or helped or supported by
tuning into this show, be sure to say so.

o    other ways are being planned to bring attention to this issue.  if you
want to be notified about organizing meetings, opportunities for protest or
action, send email to: saveamazonradio@aol.com organizers are setting up an
announcement-only email list for this purpose, and will add your address to
the list.  (the list will not be given to anyone else for any other purpose.)
if
you have ideas of your own for ways to fight this, send your ideas and
contact
info to the same email address, and organizers will get in touch with you.

o  if possible, please keep us posted about what you have done by sending
copies of your wxpn correspondence or brief
summaries to us at saveamazonradio@aol.com

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date:         wed, 16 jul 2003 11:49:10 edt
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subject:      re: wxpn cancels "amazon country"
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fwiw, i know the pd, bruce warren.  not in a meaningful, personal way, but
we've crossed paths over the years, and he's always struck me as a caring,
reasonable guy.

lauren

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date:         wed, 16 jul 2003 15:43:21 -0500
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i got this from a friend today.  i don't know if it will always work, but it
does right now.  it's pretty funny.


> javier pointed this out to me, go to www.google.com (yes, the google
> website) type "weapons of mass destruction" into the subject and hit the
> "i'm feeling lucky" search key.
>
>

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date:         fri, 18 jul 2003 01:39:00 -0400
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hey all--
i am working on a project which will deal in part with the experiences of pre-teen or teenage lesbians and women either over 18 or at least several years older.i would like to hear about crushes, and/or actual sexual or romantic relationships. the details of your actual experience will not be used, and names if you choose to give them will be kept in confidence. i'm just interested in getting an idea of womens' experiences or even just views on the subject.
for more information,or just to share your memories, please e-mail me privately: rainnriver@aol.com
thanks,
sarah

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date:         fri, 18 jul 2003 20:27:52 -0400
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subject:      vligc: east mountain south - now i get it
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the subject line is enough said.

i'm sitting here listening to my local npr station.  wow, i've never =
heard any song sound so much like emily's writing/overall sound.  i had =
to know who it was.  when the announcer said east mountain south, well, =
i remembered you guys have good taste : )

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date:         sat, 19 jul 2003 01:23:39 edt
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thought this would be of general interest.

lauren


>  tied into knots
>
>      when asked if he supported gay marriage, presidential nominee al
> sharpton scoffed:  "it's like asking do i support black marriage or white
> marriage... the inference of the question is that gays are not like other human
> beings. [it's] like saying you give blacks, or whites, or latinos the right to
> shack up -- but not get married."  but such fiery responses were the exception to
> the rule, at monday's gay and lesbian presidential forum. the event was
> sponsored by the human rights campaign, a half-million-strong lobbying group for
> lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender rights. although the candidates
> present were vying for the support of the queer community, all the top candidates
> fell short of advocating fully equal rights for gay americans.
>       with their full-throated embrace of gay rights, al sharpton, carol
> moseley braun, and ohio lefty dennis kucinich offered a stark contrast to the
> half-measures put forward by the mainstream candidates. in an  impassioned
> speech, kucinich told the audience:  "i think americans will respond to a
> president who reaches out and says that i believe there should be a federal law that
> would enable gay couples to be recognized, and not have to search state to
> state for a place to be. this is america. we should be able to get past this.
> let people be who they are and love who they are -- and love who they love."
> such comments go straight to the heart of what the nation's gay community
> wants to hear. but neither braun, kucinich nor sharpton is seen as having a
> chance at the democratic nomination.
>       while the three long-shots didn't mince words, the other candidates
> danced the political dance around the issue of gay marriage. howard dean -- the
> first governor in the us to sign gay civil unions into law -- minced around
> the issue, suggesting that the federal government leave such decisions to the
> states. dean told the crowd: "i'm for equal rights for all americans," and
> bragged about the civil unions law he signed in vermont. but his more liberal
> following might be surprised, as philadelphia inquirer's dick polman points
> out, that dean only signed vermont's civil union law when a state court ruling
> forced him to do it. dean's "pro-gay" image was further tarnished during
> this exchange with the event's host, sam donaldson of abc news.  "when dean
> remarked that voters won't accept gay marriage because 'marriage has a long
> history as a religious institution,' donaldson noted that times had changed, that
> contemporary weddings were often performed outside religious setti!
> ngs. 'that's true,' said dean.
>       'then why do you say it's a religious institution?'
>       'because it is. '
>       'but you can go to a justice of the peace -- '
>       dean cut him off. 'you want to keep talking about this?'"  despite
> having been stuck with a "liberal" label, dean stands neck-to-neck with other
> "states' rights" advocates. but of course, every democrat with a fighting
> chance is to be trying hard to avoid seeming "too liberal." as polman notes,
> however, democratic candidates might have to start taking their queer
> constituencies seriously.  "gays, as well as the heterosexuals who support gay rights,
> vote heavily in democratic primaries; three years ago, 11 percent of california
> primary voters were gay, the same share as african americans. next year,
> south carolina will stage a key early primary, and democrats have identified
> 44,000 gay voters who could swing a close outcome.
>       but democrats are also thinking beyond the primaries. polls indicate
> that less liberal voters, especially the independents who swing close national
> elections, don't buy the gay-marriage concept."
>      indeed, it is just such fears about national elections that lead top
> democrats to toe the republican-sounding "traditional values" line.
> massachusetts senator john kerry, for instance, told the crowd at the human rights
> commission that he respects an exclusively heterosexual view on marriage:
> "historically, culturally and religiously, [most americans] view marriage as between
> a man and a woman. one has to respect that perception, and i respect that."
> although kerry told the displeased audience that he does support civil unions,
> he failed to mention that in 1996 he voted for the federal  defense of
> marriage act. the republican act allows any state to deny recognition to same-sex
> unions that were granted in a different state. it's a piece of work was also
> signed by two other presidential nominees: senators joseph lieberman and bob
> graham.
>       neither graham nor senator john edwards bothered to show up at
> monday's forum. other attendees included dick gephardt and joe lieberman. gephardt
> promised gay americans -- including his daughter -- that although he opposes
> their right to join in holy matrimony, he simply feels "that civil unions is
> the way to go." out of all the candidates present, joe lieberman was the most
> hesitant to advocate for gay rights. like dean, lieberman suggested civil
> unions remain in the state jurisdiction, leaning heavily on the "marriage has a
> special status in our culture, our society, our history" crutch.
>       it's not all that surprising that the candidates chose to play
> conservative on the matter of gay marriage. many in the democratic party believe
> that al gore fared poorly in the southern states because he was seen as too
> liberal on social issues. even the leaders of the human rights commission
> expressed a textured understanding of the resistance to gay marriage from the
> american public. the campaign's executive director, elizabeth birch, told the san
> francisco chronicle that marriage has secular and religious elements that many
> americans see as being  threatened by gay marriage.  "until the american
> people understand the distinction and don't automatically believe that the
> candidate is coming after their sacred holy union, i think you're going to find
> candidates shying away from that word 'marriage.' "  so despite the differences
> in candidates' positions, birch focused on how civil rights have greatly
> improved for the gay community. still, when asked if she was disappoi!
> nted by the candidates' hesitancey, she said, "there's always room for some
> profiles in courage."
>
>
>
> read daily mojo online for more:
>
>      <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/news/dailymojo/2003/29/we_479_04.html">http://www.motherjones.com/news/dailymojo/2003/29/we_479_04.html</a>
>
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date:         sat, 19 jul 2003 09:51:37 edt
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subject:      nigc-aimee mann tix for sale glenside pa
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i have 2 aimee mann tickets i need to sell.  please email me if interested.
here is the show info and cost of tickets.

keswick theatre, glenside, pa
sunday august 24, 2003 7:30 pm
seat location: section left, row g, seats 11-13
$70.00

thanks
sandy

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date:         sat, 19 jul 2003 18:34:31 edt
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hello everyone -

delurking for a moment here - now i am back in the states, i need to get my
hands on some tickets to the wolftrap show (and the meyerhoff too). i really
only need one, but if anyone has a pair to sell, i will buy them together if you
want. i guess i am also looking for tickets to the ani show too......so if
anyone has any, or knows of someone else who has any....hook me up - i would be
forever grateful.

off to go check out the free keller williams show
(check him out - he is great)

~sasha

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date:         mon, 21 jul 2003 20:59:08 -0400
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hey y'all,

i have one extra ticket for the baltimore show (19 aug at the meyerhoff) for sale.  row e on the main floor (4 rows back as there is no row a... at least according to the seating chart).  seat 1.  that is on amy's side on the aisle.  i am selling it for $40.  let me know if you are interested.

thanks!

:-) karen

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