lifeblood: listlogs: 2004-03a


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date:         mon, 1 mar 2004 00:39:54 -0500
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tara wrote:


> it used to be, in the 'good ol' days', i'd get my
> new ig cassette, and i could identify with so
> much of what they wrote, i felt an instant
> kinship, but now, i feel that in some cases, i
> analyze a song to death, and still don't 'get it'
> until someone in a q&a, explicitly asks the girls
> what they were thinking.  anyone else feel like
> this?


my guess is this is because they are writing in a different way now. the
early songs were coming from within almost exclusively. like unfiltered
emotion, because they were younger. the angst of relationships felt from
within. or the joy of relationships felt from within. or the idealism of
your young 20s -- ie watershed. they were writing from the inside out -- it
didnt matter exactly what amy was wailing about in blood and fire.  most of
us have been there at some point or another; the emotions are universal, raw
and recognizable despite the specifics of the situation.


as they've grown older, i think they've tended to filter their emotions
through the world around them and through the wisdom they've gained over the
years. they have 20 years of life that diffuses the gut emotions of the
songs on indigo girls, for instance. doesnt make them less honest or
emotional. maybe just not accessible in the way reading someone's journal is
instant access to a snapshot in time of that person's mind, heart and soul.
that's what those early cds were like. amy couldnt write blood and fire at
40.  she really couldnt. if you still have that much angst at 40, you prolly
need to check yourself in somewhere.


> so, cordova - person or place?  ex-lover, friend,
> maybe a lost beloved pet?  please - enlighten me
> if you know.


who knows. this is one of those songs that to me captures a universal from
the inside out -- but in a mature way. she's longing for someone who is not
there anymore. maybe this is the middle-aged version of blood and fire. or
if it's a pet, the 40-year-old's  version of secure yourself, one of the
great all time epic songs written for a dead cat.


>
> and also, 'rise up your dead'?  catchy tune, but
> can't really get into it because i don't know
> what she's talking about.  i'm sure there are
> many interpretations - you guys are always full
> of good ideas - shed some skin - ooh - i mean
> light on this one for me.  i'm thinking maybe
> dead ideas?  dead feelings?  dead attitudes?


maybe all of those. and maybe something to do with the mexican celebration
of the day of the dead. they've spent a lot of time down there with the
zapatistas and in chiapas. that bouncy attitude would fit the idea of the
day of the dead. it's the living who are mournful. the dead are partying.
just a thot.


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date:         sun, 29 feb 2004 22:59:40 -0800
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on feb 29, 2004, at 9:39 pm, lisalisaa wrote:


> my guess is this is because they are writing in a different way now.
*snip*
> as they've grown older, i think they've tended to filter their emotions
> through the world around them and through the wisdom they've gained
> over the
> years.


i'd say, the difference is the difference between simple writing and
literature.   there's a lot of novels out there that don't require any
perspective to read -- harlequin romances, etc.  but then, there are
also the novels by joyce or pynchon or eco, which demand that the
reader have some amount of background in the world in order to fully
understand the references and wordplay they contain.


it's not necessary that one catch these references in order to enjoy
the read, but once one starts to see what's going on beyond the plot
and starts seeing how the use of language and allusion deepens the
work, it makes it more difficult to enjoy more single-layered works,
plus the search for the "hidden" meanings has a self-fulfilling nature
to it.  as you educate yourself to better learn what's happening in
some of these works, you find more and more of these "cross-references"
everywhere you look, both intended and accidental.


it's obvious that ig is doing this more and more with their work,
although i find it frustrating that so many of their references are
fairly opaque without annotation.  on the other hand, i feel lucky that
there's so many knowing people on this list who can help me better
understand.  (take my earlier question about jaime hernandez.  talk
about opening up a whole new universe for exploration!)  maybe we need
a whole new section to lifeblood.org, the annotated lyrics.


while i'm going on about this, i do need to mention the film moulin
rouge, which has become somewhat of an obsession of my roommate, and
which seems to be nearly joyceian in depth.  just looking through a
coffeetable book of toulouse-lautrec's paintings before watching this
film gives one layer of insight (out of many many many) into how
complex this kind of cultural referencing can be.


dig deep!  it's worth the effort.


graham ames
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date:         mon, 1 mar 2004 02:39:29 -0500
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*above the clouds* 1200 curfews
1. swamp ophelia
2. rites of passage
3. come on now social
4. become you
5. strange fire
6. shaming of the sun
7. nomads indians saints
8. indigo girls


i didn't rate atwli because i haven't gotten it from sony yet.


i came to know indigo girls when shaming of the sun had been out a year
already, and before cons.  i was in med school when my brother wanted me to
hear power of two.  then i bought 1200 curfews on tape, and the rest was
history!  i must have listened to ig every day for three years after that.
they really opened up a world of music to me, since a year or so later, i
was lucky to attend the newport folk festival and a couple of other
concerts, and met a bunch of you from this list.  virginia woolf was a song
that helped me through a rough patch, too.


diane


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date: sun, 29 feb 2004 12:17:22 -0800


howdy ya'll,


this really is a great thread.  and it's interesting, i'd be curious to see
if/how, based on when you came into the ig and where in your life you were
(ie, college, 30-something, still a teenager), that would affect your
choices and if there is a consensus among people who came into them at the
same time/same age-group.  anyway, here are mine.  and for the record, i
came in after cons was released and before by.  i was about 19 when i found
them.


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i've always wondered about their favorite songs too.  but i'd also like
to know what they think the "best" song they've written is (which i
think is, or could be, different than favorite).


meg


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subject: one question


i'd ask what their favorite song is that they have written, and then
their favorite song that the other wrote, and why. maybe if i was
feeling especially brave i'd ask about their *least* favorites too!


i've always wondered.....


sus


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in a message dated 3/1/2004 1:00:23 am central standard time,
heepybear@jefu.net writes:
it's not necessary that one catch these references in order to enjoy
the read, but once one starts to see what's going on beyond the plot
and starts seeing how the use of language and allusion deepens the
work, it makes it more difficult to enjoy more single-layered works,
plus the search for the "hidden" meanings has a self-fulfilling nature
to it.  as you educate yourself to better learn what's happening in
some of these works, you find more and more of these "cross-references"
everywhere you look, both intended and accidental.


it's obvious that ig is doing this more and more with their work,
although i find it frustrating that so many of their references are
fairly opaque without annotation.  on the other hand, i feel lucky that
there's so many knowing people on this list who can help me better
understand.  (take my earlier question about jaime hernandez.  talk
about opening up a whole new universe for exploration!)  maybe we need
a whole new section to lifeblood.org, the annotated lyrics.
i agree with this assessment regarding amy's music, but i think that emily's
lyrics have gotten simple to the point of inanity. she reuses rhymes, makes
the most obvious ones, and strings together unconnected thoughts in what seems
to me a pretty lazy manner.  i went back and listened to ghost, mystery, least
complicated, even leeds after getting atwli and was stunned by how her lyrics
have devolved.  "kat writes a poem and she sticks it on my truck/we don't
believe in war and we don't believe in luck"  hunh?  "my heart beat like a drum"?
this is the same writer who coined the word"withoutyouness," which i think is
brilliant!


okay, while writing this i looked at fill it up again, which i don't like as
a song, but the lyrics to that song are a little more interesting.  but
nothing like what amy is doing these days.


flame on, oh fellow fans forever!


pam in big d


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>from: lisalisaa <lisalisaa@earthlink.net>


>if it's a pet, the 40-year-old's  version of secure yourself, one of the
>great all time epic songs written for a dead cat.
secure yourself is about a dead cat?????????????????


how did i not know this? can anyone provide further insight? did amy say
this explicitly? tell me more. it's long been a personal fave of mine, but i
had no idea that's what it was about.


and, i have to say--in case anyone didn't know--that lotr:the return of the
king swept the oscars last night, winning 11 awards. this ties it with ben
hur and titanic for most oscars awarded to one film ever. it's a great day
to be a geek!


cheers,
tom m.
"you don't want to sound dumb
don't want to offend
so don't call me faggot
not unless you are a friend."
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what a great topic - i first heard the ig on the today show while i was a
sophmore in hs( i figured i was skipping cuz i was sick, or something.) and
then on letterman, but what really turned me on to them was hearing them on
my fave rem tape - as filler - the 9-25-88 performance - and that rem
bootleg took a long time to find (back when every tape trader bought
goldmine just for the classifieds...)
finally got nis and spent the summer listening to it while writing daily -
i think i got self titled as well, then rop... i got rop same day as a big
settlement, and was like - where are they playing live. biked to
ticketmaster and bought a ticket to newport 92 - the year the rain cut the
ig show to 42 min. luckily they played two blocks from my parents house and
i also got to see them at brandeis the same year, and a godawful bunch of
times since then - but few albums (cept maybe automatic for the people, new
beginnings, ani's out of range and fumbling toward ectacy) ever totally
engrossed me as much as rop.


my order -
rop
nis
swamp orphelia
self titled
shaming
strange fire
atwli
by
1200
cons...


now if i could do a top ten for bootlegs...well, another post i guess.


mike r.


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uncle john's band, on the deadicated benefit cd...  after that, within a
week i'd bought 3 indigo girls cds...


mark


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it was 1984 or 5 at emory.  i was in high school in florida and my friends
and i piled in the car to go see u2 in atlanta.  i used my fake id to get into
the dugout and there they were.  the music stuck in my head and not long after,
my first girlfriend brought strange fire over to my apartment.  ah.  those
were the days...


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i can't believe it, but i was *13* when i first heard them.  the
neighbor-boy's older brother had vh1 on and i happened to walk into the
family room only to become completely transfixed with this mysterious
brown-eyed girl standing behind a pretty, earthy, strawberry blond.  they
(and this video) were like nothing i had ever seen before.  after i bought
the closer to fine cassette single and heard cold as ice as the b-side, i
became an "amy person" perhaps even before there was such as thing and
certainly before i even knew her name.


i'm 28 now, and with the realease of atwli, i am still amazed at how they
continue to enrapture me and speak to every phase of my life--from puppy
love, to my chosen career path, to child birth.  ...and there is a
particular song in my heart to match every milestone. it sounds funny but
i've grown up with them. i often wonder who i would have become without
their influence.


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i'm thinking 1989...closer to fine video was on mtv.  they immediately became my favorite band.


for what it's worth, i'll rank my albums, too:


1.  swamp ophelia
2.  become you
3.  all that we let in (could move up the list...i'm still absorbing it)
4.  rites of passage
5.  self titled
6.  come on now social
7.  nomads indians saints
8.  shaming of the sun
9.  strange fire


actually...i love 1200 curfews, and the compilation cd too.


it was harder to rate the cds than i originally thought...numbers 2 - 7 could change rank on any given day based on my mood.  love it all!


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i'm not sure but i think think cordova is a place, but that the song
itself might be about her break
up with jennifer baumgardner....because there's a line that mentions the
word "infidelities?"


not that jb cheated on her btw but...i don't know.


barb


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i really had to think about this one, too. this list is just for today :-) and a list of favourite songs would include some from the bottom of the album list. it's an impossible question - aaaghhh!
1. swamp ophelia
2. come on now social
3. all that we let in
4. rites of passage
5. shaming of the sun
6. nomads indians saints
7. indigo girls
8. strange fire
9. become you

3. become you >>5. indigo girls >6. nomads*indians*saints >7. shaming of the sun >8. strange fire


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>from: diane wong >
> >another thing is, have any of you gone through a period in your life >where >you just took a break from listening to music.....just curious. > >

i stopped listening almost entirely for about five years, life just got in the way, then started again about 10 years ago, which is when i discovered ig and things started to come right for me. maybe just a happy coincidence, but i can't help making the connection
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i without a doubt would rather not face a world without tunes. i get in a=
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least 8 hours of listening a day and that's just at work, the ipod is=20
probably the single best investment i ever made. i just need a bigger one=
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on monday 01 march 2004 01:09 pm, eileen standen wrote:
> another thing is, have any of you gone through a period in your life yo=
u
> just took a break from listening to music.....just curious. i stopped
> listening almost entirely for about five years, life just got in the wa=
y,
> then started again about 10 years ago, which is when i discovered ig an=
d
> things started to come right for me. maybe just a happy coincidence, bu=
t i
> can't help making the connection


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> if it's a pet, the 40-year-old's  version of secure yourself, one
> of the
> great all time epic songs written for a dead cat.


hahahah  :)  i just love the way you wrote that!  plus, it's not only an epic song, but it's also on their album that was released on epic, so it's really an epic song....get it?  no?  okay, moving on...


> > so, cordova - person or place?  ex-lover, friend,
> > maybe a lost beloved pet?  please - enlighten me
> > if you know.


well, let's see.


(jason puts on his sherlock holmes hat and goes looking for a pipe)


the ig website has a very nifty, informative bio that says the following:


"amy's "cordova" is even more melancholy, and has been about five years in the making. about a few of amy's fellow activists in the native american community, by the time the song was completed, three of them had, tragically, passed away. "it seems revolution and relationships go hand in hand," she says. "you're working so closely together and then you fall in love, but you don't know if you're falling in love with the person or the revolution. the human dynamics of the revolution fascinate me. there's lots of human frailty. it's not perfect.""


okay, so about five years in the making....here's one possible theory:


http://www.geocities.com/~virtualtruth/tabasco.htm


that would have been about five years ago.


also, 1945 has a song on their disc "together we'll burn like autumn leaves" entitled cordova.  there could be some kind of connection there...they're on daemon, for pete's sake.  i haven't heard the song, though.


but here's another theory and this is the one i'm thinking is probably closest:


http://www.apa.udel.edu/apa/archive/newsletters/v98n2/feminism/tuana.asp


viola cordova died in november 2002, according to this report:


http://www.apa.udel.edu/apa/governance/committees/american-indian/report2003.html


thoughts?


jason (puffing on pipe, hacking up a lung)


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we had a similar discussion on the official bbs some time ago and
someone suggested that the song referred to cordova, alaska, which is
populated by native americans.  someone posted something to the effect
that amy mentioned writing it while in alaska with hte or something like
that.


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> if it's a pet, the 40-year-old's  version of secure yourself, one of=20
> the great all time epic songs written for a dead cat.


hahahah  :)  i just love the way you wrote that!  plus, it's not only an
epic song, but it's also on their album that was released on epic, so
it's really an epic song....get it?  no?  okay, moving on...


> > so, cordova - person or place?  ex-lover, friend,
> > maybe a lost beloved pet?  please - enlighten me
> > if you know.


well, let's see.


(jason puts on his sherlock holmes hat and goes looking for a pipe)


the ig website has a very nifty, informative bio that says the
following:


"amy's "cordova" is even more melancholy, and has been about five years
in the making. about a few of amy's fellow activists in the native
american community, by the time the song was completed, three of them
had, tragically, passed away. "it seems revolution and relationships go
hand in hand," she says. "you're working so closely together and then
you fall in love, but you don't know if you're falling in love with the
person or the revolution. the human dynamics of the revolution fascinate
me. there's lots of human frailty. it's not perfect.""


okay, so about five years in the making....here's one possible theory:


http://www.geocities.com/~virtualtruth/tabasco.htm


that would have been about five years ago.


also, 1945 has a song on their disc "together we'll burn like autumn
leaves" entitled cordova.  there could be some kind of connection
there...they're on daemon, for pete's sake.  i haven't heard the song,
though.


but here's another theory and this is the one i'm thinking is probably
closest:


http://www.apa.udel.edu/apa/archive/newsletters/v98n2/feminism/tuana.asp


viola cordova died in november 2002, according to this report:


http://www.apa.udel.edu/apa/governance/committees/american-indian/report
2003.html


thoughts?


jason (puffing on pipe, hacking up a lung)


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hey kids,


here's the latest list of dates from the official mailing=
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cheers,
sherlyn


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here's the latest indigo girls tour news!


perfect world tour
03/04/2004 knoxville civic auditorium - knoxville, tennessee
03/05/2004 thomas wolfe auditorium - asheville, north carolina
03/06/2004 norva - norfolk, virginia
03/08/2004 grand opera house - wilmington, delaware
03/09/2004 palace theatre - albany, new york
03/10/2004 sovereign performing arts center - reading,=
pennsylvania
03/12/2004 radio city music hall - new york, new york
03/13/2004 radio city music hall - new york, new york
03/15/2004 benedum center - pittsburgh, pennsylvania
03/16/2004 massey hall - toronto, canada
03/18/2004 state theatre - kalamazoo, michigan
03/19/2004 promowest pavilion - columbus, ohio
03/20/2004 the pageant - st. louis, missouri


indigo girls and the atlanta ballet
03/25/2004 the fox theatre atlanta georgia indigo girls and=
atlanta
ballet to perform "shed your skin"
03/26/2004 the fox theatre atlanta georgia indigo girls and=
atlanta
ballet to perform "shed your skin"
03/27/2004 the fox theatre atlanta georgia indigo girls and=
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ballet to perform "shed your skin"  (two performances)
03/28/2004 the fox theatre atlanta georgia indigo girls and=
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ballet to perform "shed your skin" (two performances)


perfect world tour - second leg
03/31/2004 freebird live - jacksonville, florida
04/01/2004 hard rock live - orlando, florida
04/02/2004 carefree theatre - west palm beach, florida
04/03/2004 carefree theatre - west palm beach, florida
04/04/2004 olivia cruise lines - key west, florida
04/15/2004 aerial theatre - houston, texas
04/16/2004 stubbs outdoors - austin, texas
04/17/2004 granada theatre - dallas, texas
04/19/2004 the blue note - columbia, missouri
04/20/2004 orpheum - madison, wiconsin
04/22/2004 orpheum - minneapolis, minnesota
04/24/2004 auditorium theatre - chicago, illinois
04/26/2004 charlottesville pac - charlottesville, virginia
04/29/2004 merlefest - wilkesboro, north carolina
04/30/2004 alabama theatre - birmingham, alabama
05/02/2004 river stages - nashville, tennessee


please keep checking our tour page for the latest tour=
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if i am counting correctly, we have three threads going on here right now:


1 what question would you ask amy and emily?
2 list your album preference
3 when did you first experience ig music?


here goes:


thread #1
i would ask them both whatever happened to the cd of early pre-epic material they were going to release. was it rejected or will it be released later? i'm dying to get a non-bootleg release of "beauty to disaster" and "play it again, sam."


thread #2
i love at least one or two songs off of every album, but as far as rating the entire album here is my list. i'm not saying #1 is the best, i'm saying #1 is the one i enjoy listening to the most and would probably listen to right now if i had to choose one album:


1. indigo girls
2. rites of passage
3. come on now social
4. nomads indians saints
5. swamp ophelia
6. 1200 curfews
7. strange fire
8. shaming of the sun
9. become you


too early to judge where i would put the latest one, probably somewhere in the middle.


thread #3
i first heard indigo girls in 1989 when i had a day off from work and i saw the video for "closer to fine" on mtv. a while later, i saw "hammer and a nail" on vh-1; i bought n*i*s, then bought indigo girls and i have been buying the new releases since. maybe that has something to do with my album choices, i do not know.


you all make a fan work...


-scott


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a little bit of research has confirmed my belief that the song 'cordova' is about amy's time in mexico.  cordova is a town in mexico, where a mexican independence treaty with spain was signed, and a mexican last name.  the song doesn't seem very cryptic to me -


"the volunteers(1), they come for your prayers(2), and a few souvenirs(3).  with ivory skin(4), and boycott lessons(5), year after year."


this is, to me, clearly about naive (5; the situation in chiapas is far more serious than any consumer boycott could solve) white(4) activists(1) who come down to chiapas to help out with the cause, but also for a vacation(3), and the relief of white/american guilt by seeking the blessings, real or implied, of the indigenous folks(2).  it could be a more general reference to the cultural arrogance of us mission trips heading to the same place, but the line "boycott lessons" makes me think it has a more activist/zapatista bent.


it goes on, but i'm out of time.


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at the red light cafe show amy mentioned writing this while in alaska...
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story last updated at 5:45 p.m. on monday, march 1, 2004
georgia lawmakers will debate gay marriage again

by kristen wyatt
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atlanta - georgia house members will debate a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage - again - after voting monday to reconsider their rejection of the amendment last week.
the house voted 127-48 to have another vote on the same-sex marriage ban. last week, the democrat-controlled chamber was three votes short of the two-thirds majority required to change the constitution.
the reconsideration vote sets up another debate on the matter and was cheered by christian conservatives, thousands of whom rallied earlier in the day for a new vote.
"i'm just hoping and praying they'll take this second chance and do the right thing," said sadie fields, head of the christian coalition in georgia.
the republican-led senate has already approved the amendment. gay marriage is illegal in georgia, but the subject is not addressed in the state constitution.
it was unclear how soon the house would re-debate the gay marriage amendment. several members who voted to reconsider the amendment insisted they again planned to vote no when it comes back up.
"i don't mind reconsidering because my vote hasn't changed," said rep. jill chambers of atlanta, the lone republican who voted against the amendment last week. "i've had overwhelming positive response in my district."
overflow crowds gathered to watch the reconsideration vote. earlier monday, thousands mobbed the capitol for a rally in favor of the ban.
the crowd grew so large they held the rally outside. across the street, hundreds of gay activists chanted loudly as ministers led prayers asking for house members to change their votes.
"we represent the vast majority," said the rev. mike stone of emmanuel baptist church in blackshear.
among the gay rights activists was emily saliers, a member of the folk-rock group indigo girls, who attended a house committee meeting in the morning.
"this is a discriminatory amendment," said saliers, who lives in decatur. "i'm very, very proud of the legislators who stood up - maybe against their whole political careers - to do the right thing."
the rally was the most heated so far in the debate over gay marriage in georgia. opponents wore stickers showing stick figures of a man and a woman, and some waved signs denouncing homosexuality as a sin. one sign even said that gay people have just three rights: to hell, to damnation and to salvation (if they stop being gay).
one of the gay rights activists, lisa flick, briefly sat down in the middle of the road, stopping traffic. police dragged her out of the street but didn't arrest her. after that, police parked a line of cars in the street to divide the two sides.
supporters of the gay marriage ban called the rally their best effort yet to show support for a constitutional amendment. many expected the house to reverse its position after heavy pressure from christian conservatives.
"i think it's very important for the future of this nation, for the children," said veronica pallos of decatur.
even some gay rights activists said they thought lawmakers would be swayed by the huge crowd calling for the amendment.
"it probably won't be rejected this time," said cesar sotomayor of atlanta. "even though your heart hopes they will, i don't think they will."
the house rules committee now must schedule another floor vote on the marriage amendment, where 120 votes would be needed. constitutional amendments do not have to be approved by the governor in georgia, so the question would go straight to voters for final approval this fall if passed by the house.
at least 22 other states are also considering constitutional amendments to ban gay marriage, including alabama, kentucky, mississippi and south carolina.
georgia gov. sonny perdue, a republican, said constitutional amendments are needed, even in the bible belt.
"while some may think it may never come to georgia, we're only really one activist judge away," perdue said.

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i've tried, and tried, and realize that there's no way i could possibly
rank the ig albums for myself.  too much of them is too deeply
ingrained in my consciousness that at any moment, i could want to
listen to any of their songs.


however, here's my general take on the cds, and what moods bring me to
listen to which cd...


indigo girls:  intense sing-along cd, comfort for when i feel like
nobody looks at the world the same way i do, best alone or with other
ig fans (non-fans don't understand the fanatical along-singing)


nomads-indians-saints:  one of my "therapy" albums.  helps me work
through moments of emotional turmoil, and always leaves me feeling more
integrated than when i started the cd.


strange fire:  mellow evening cd, but also kind of a "bitch along with
the girls" session when i'm particularly angry at a relationship.  (not
a state i've been in lately -- i'm growing less drama than i used to, i
guess).


rites of passage:  ig's sgt. pepper's, imho.  this is the cd i play for
people who don't know their work, or who are going through emotional
turmoil of their own.  there's always some point where they reach
catharsis or enlightenment during its run.


swamp ophelia:  a long, intense crawl through the dark corners of life,
for when i'm wanting to indulge myself, and not necessarily feel better
right away.


shaming of the sun:  one of my favorite road trip cds, and for some
reason, a fave for housecleaning, too.  something about the grooves...


come on now social:  if i'm feeling "stuck" and want to get over it,
this cd nearly always moves me beyond my own roadblocks and helps me
see the necessary path more clearly.


i can't say that i've found such "uses" for become you or all that we
let in, as of yet.  i'm sure they'll come, though.  understand, this
has to do with the entire cd.  there are tracks on any cd which i'd
want to listen to for any variety of situations.  but when it comes to
diving into an entire cd, this seems to pretty well describe why i make
different choices at different times.


graham ames
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>a little bit of research has confirmed my belief that the song
>'cordova' is about amy's time in mexico.  cordova is a town in
>mexico, where a mexican independence treaty with spain was signed,
>and a mexican last name.  the song doesn't seem very cryptic to me -


so it's either about a town in mexico or a town in alaska?


i'm sticking with my viola cordova theory, if for no other reason
because i feel cool for finding it.  it's not every day i get to
smoke a pipe.


jason


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no, i received mine with a note that the poster is back ordered.


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hi all. have 4 tickets to radio city for fri 3/12 that we can't use =
asking what we paid thru ticketmaster which comes to $53.60 each. will =
sell all together or separate if necessary. they are 1st mezz row b =
seats 605-608. email me if interested and i will get right back to you.


thanks,
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jason, i think you're probably right.  the first verse definitely still applies to native north american activism (there are plenty of tribal souvenirs in alaska!), and especially if they mentioned it being written there.


here's another venture -


maybe 'tupperware kin', since it comes right after the line "you come to me with revolution's infidelities", refers to the person she's talking about's relatives who are more entrenched in the system/not working on the revolution.  much as i enjoy reliable food storage, one must ultimately conclude that tupperware is a mass-produced, plastic (oh, and plastic is made of oil, which is a big environmental issue in alaska), un-environmental product.  (let's not get into the argument about "well, it's better than disposable storage"!, i'm just saying that it's less good than having no mass-produced plastic at all.  and i, for one, don't consider disposable containers to even be an option...)


amy's supposed to be the one who writes more stream-of-conscious anyway, right?  who knows.


lisa


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it is possible that the song itself is about the revolutionaries she became
friends with in mexico, whereas the title of the song refers to the town in
alaska where she was laying in the bottom bunk reflecting on all that and crying,
("oh cordova -- where i cried, and i cried). for example, maybe while she was
up there in alaska doing some hte stuff, she heard the news that yet another
of her good friends had died...  or maybe she already knew about the three who
had died, and just all of the activism of the day (in alaska) made her start
remembering them with fondness, and she was overcome with sadness at that
point.  that's just my thought as to how the word "cordova" relates to the rest of
the song.


by the way, i think the original poster said something about how the girls
used to write so that everyone could understand, and now their writing has
become harder to grasp. i don't sense that at all.  as a matter of fact, i tend to
understand more of their songs these days. when i first started listening to
them, (back in the self-titled days), as new songs came out, i was often left
going "???what the...????".  i mean, there's still a song here or there that
might be a little cryptic, but their improvement as writers, (especially amy's),
as well as the fact that as time goes by we get to know them more and more
through their songs, their interviews/banter, and their activism -- these are
things that help make their newer songs increasingly less cryptic, to me.


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i'm usually a lurker here but i was listening to this just the other day and
i thought you might be interested.  amy said before singing the song at
eddie's attic (10-13-02),  "i've just finished this song...well i think i've
finished it.  i started it in alaska..a lot of years ago, on one of the hte
tours.  i was thinking about people and land and how they're kind of the
same thing.  land and eco-systems..ya know our own eco-systems within
ourselves."


c :)


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i don't know if this has been already discussed, but itunes lets artists
create their own playlists of other's works. here's the list for amy &
emily:


emily saliers- "i love these songs because each one is passionate in its own
way. i get bored listening to the same kind of music, so it's great for me
to mix up my playlists. i think that the musical arrangements on early
jackson 5 stuff are plain brilliant, and my life just wouldn't be the same
without the music of heart. all of these artists are near and dear to me (to
name only ten - that's the hard part!)."


amy ray - "i was thinking about justice when i picked these albums from my
ipod. it doesn't get any clearer than jimmy cliff, his voice just crying out
to be heard. and then nina simone who never did get her due. her voice
soothes me to sleep, but also wakes up my activist heart, the same way
brodie from the distillers does. the shins and rickie lee jones use language
in a way that cross-pollinates personal suffering with the universe and its
wonder. you get the street with rickie and the wonders of nature with the
shins. tupac and team dresch come from the streets of disenfranchisement,
but they hold their heads high and help us to walk in a mighty way. i find
historical meaning in the music from gillian welch and the clash; in their
songs i hear the echoes of community and struggle. and then there's the joy
of michael franti and spearhead - in the face of fear and injustice he tells
us, 'when i feel alone i sing myself a song because wherever i lay a groove
is my home'."


barracuda    4:23    heart    the essential heart


mountains    3:57    prince    parade - under the cherry moon (soundtrack
from the motion picture)
all in love is fair    3:42    stevie wonder    innervisions (digipak)


i want you back (single)    3:00    jackson 5    20th century masters - the
millennium collection: the best of the jackson 5


32 flavors    6:07    ani difranco    not a pretty girl


broken flag    4:55    patti smith group    wave (remastered)


the look of love    4:42    diana krall    the look of love


variations on an original theme, op. 36 "enigma" \ variation xiv (e.d.u.)


finale: allegro    5:47    leonard slatkin & various artists    elgar:
enigma variations, pomp and circumstance & others


to love you once    3:54    jessica andrews    now


how soon is now?    3:14    t.a.t.u.    200 km/h in the wrong lane


the harder they come    3:40    jimmy cliff    ultimate collection: jimmy
cliff


black is the color of my true love's hair    3:29    nina simone    after
hours


drain the blood    3:09    the distillers    coral fang


pink bullets    3:53    the shins    chutes too narrow


still i rise    4:45    outlawz & 2pac    still i rise


seven    1:47    team dresch    rock stars kill


we belong together    5:05    rickie lee jones    pirates


i want to sing that rock 'n' roll    2:55    david rawlings & gillian welch
down from the mountain


bank robber    4:35    the clash    the story of the clash, vol. 1
(remastered)


of course you can    4:39    spearhead    home    $0.99


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so i'm scanning my new xm during my free trial
period, and zip!  all of a sudden something is
real familiar... push button, button, button -
"rise up your dead, there's life in the old
girl..." - rock on!  ig on xm cafe!  then they
played heartache - cool-o!


i don't know what else they played, but that was
pretty cool to hear on the radio - usually in my
town, it's ctf or nothing - so i think i'll be
subscribing.  so many choices and no commercials,
definitely worth $10/month.


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anyone want my atwli poster??
lisa


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out of curiosity i checked artistdirect.com for ig tickets on april 24 in chicago. they have front row seats for $340.00 each and a ton of other good seats at unbelievable prices. the last entry (#57) is row ee (29th) for $75.00 each.

check it out at this link: http://www.eventinventory.com/search/pubsearch.cfm?client=2794&e=371&id=10

if the link doesn't work, go to www.artistdirect.com, click on tickets, and then click on ig.

i'm speechless. i mean that's an incredible amount of tickets that were not available during the presale!

urghhhh!

oh well, trying to stay positive...

michele

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hey...


i didn't check the link, but it sounds like it's part of the =
ticketsnow.com
umbrella. there are a whole lot of sites who share the same inventory =
and it
all comes down to good old supply and demand.


basically there is a *lot* of money to be made buying and selling =
premium
tickets. some people will pay $$$$ for top seats, so it is worth other
people's time to obtain them, legally or otherwise (and from what i've
heard, it's a *very* lucrative business for insiders too, especially on =
the
really big tours).=20


you might remember that ticketmaster was proposing to auction off the =
best
seats for shows (or sell them at a premium) because hey, if people are =
going
to pay, the venue and artist may as well get a cut instead of a scalper. =
i
don't think there's a good answer, but this seems to be the best one.


the only way to beat the system is not to partake. i have *never* paid =
over
face value for tickets, even for sold-out shows. i can't think of a
situation where i ever would. however, for some people it seems to be =
worth
the money.


neil
@}--,---'--


coming soon to our house concert series here in media, pa
march 5th: full frontal folk
april 18th: martyn joseph
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subject: where many of the good seats for chicago are...

out of curiosity i checked artistdirect.com for ig tickets on april 24 =
in
chicago. they have front row seats for $340.00 each and a ton of other =
good
seats at unbelievable prices. the last entry (#57) is row ee (29th) for
$75.00 each.


check it out at this link:
http://www.eventinventory.com/search/pubsearch.cfm?client=3d2794&e=3d371&=
id=3d10


if the link doesn't work, go to www.artistdirect.com, click on tickets, =
and
then click on ig.


i'm speechless. i mean that's an incredible amount of tickets that were =
not
available during the presale!


urghhhh!


oh well, trying to stay positive...


michele


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neil,


that's exactly what it is.


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hey...


i didn't check the link, but it sounds like it's part of the
ticketsnow.com umbrella. there are a whole lot of sites who share the
same inventory and it all comes down to good old supply and demand.


basically there is a *lot* of money to be made buying and selling
premium tickets. some people will pay $$$$ for top seats, so it is worth
other people's time to obtain them, legally or otherwise (and from what
i've heard, it's a *very* lucrative business for insiders too,
especially on the really big tours).=20


you might remember that ticketmaster was proposing to auction off the
best seats for shows (or sell them at a premium) because hey, if people
are going to pay, the venue and artist may as well get a cut instead of
a scalper. i don't think there's a good answer, but this seems to be the
best one.


the only way to beat the system is not to partake. i have *never* paid
over face value for tickets, even for sold-out shows. i can't think of a
situation where i ever would. however, for some people it seems to be
worth the money.


neil
@}--,---'--


coming soon to our house concert series here in media, pa
march 5th: full frontal folk
april 18th: martyn joseph
www.sixthst.com=20


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subject: where many of the good seats for chicago are...

out of curiosity i checked artistdirect.com for ig tickets on april 24
in chicago. they have front row seats for $340.00 each and a ton of
other good seats at unbelievable prices. the last entry (#57) is row ee
(29th) for $75.00 each.


check it out at this link:
http://www.eventinventory.com/search/pubsearch.cfm?client=3d2794&e=3d371&=
id=3d
10


if the link doesn't work, go to www.artistdirect.com, click on tickets,
and then click on ig.


i'm speechless. i mean that's an incredible amount of tickets that were
not available during the presale!


urghhhh!


oh well, trying to stay positive...


michele


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'tis right neil and don't forget that our "not-so" good friends at clear=20
channel sell tickets on ebay....todd


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interesting points about the writing.  since first becoming a fan back in
1989/90, i've been walking around telling anyone who would listen that i think
emily is the most gifted writer of my generation.


that said, i agree with your assessment that emily has been slipping and amy
has been catching up.  i don't agree with your specific examples (not right or
wrong, just differing opinions), but by become you, i thought amy was
bringing the strongest songs to the table.  it's been great to see her work grow and
strengthen, but i plain miss what i perceive to be emily's genius.


lauren


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lisalisaa@earthlink.net writes:


my point: when emily is on lyrically, she writes poetic universal truths
that can hit you like a lightning bolt and be as illuminating. im not sure a
lyric that hits that height has jumped out at me yet on this cd. but to be
fair, i downloaded it off apple's music store and havent printed out any
lyrics and read them yet.


but my bigger point, and there's been some discussion here on this but i'd
like to hear more opinions: on the early cds, i think emily was a far
superior songwriter than amy. amy started to catch up on swamp ophelia. and
i think now, she's an equal at the very least. i think become you had some
really great songs from both of them.


but amy has just been on a tear: im thinking of songs like ozilline, gone
again, all of her stuff on shaming of the sun, starkville! yield, become you
etc. -- in no particular order. and stag was wonderful too. but amy isn't a
universal-knock-you-off-your-feet lyricist. at least not for me. anyone else
have another opinon?


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in a message dated 3/3/04 8:08:47 pm eastern standard time,
indigotraveller@aol.com writes:


> that said, i agree with your assessment that emily has been slipping and
> amy
> has been catching up.  i don't agree with your specific examples (not right
> or
> wrong, just differing opinions), but by become you, i thought amy was
> bringing the strongest songs to the table.  it's been great to see her work
> grow and
> strengthen, but i plain miss what i perceive to be emily's genius.
>


i have been listening to atwli for 5 days now and this sums up how i feel,
too. amy just gets more amazing, as a lyricist and musician, while i don't get
the same rush from emily's writing like i used to.  musically, i still enjoy
her melodies and vocal arrangments and guitar goddessness, but the sentiments
are not as deep and sharp as amy's words.  i go around humming "rise up" but it
doesn't have any real meaning for me -- i connect with it only on a musical
level because it's a fun song, not because the words speak to me.  i still
really like the cd as a whole, though. as an "old" fan since back in 1989, i
continue to be blown away by their harmonies and vocal interplay, and this record
offers plenty of both.


heidi


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just came in from sony.  i don't want/need it.


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and just like that it was claimed... you people are quick.


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just came in from sony.  i don't want/need it.


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hi everyone,
wandering if anyone will be attending this show?
-ang


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at 06:22 pm 3/3/04 -0500, heckler, victoria wrote:
>neil,

neil -
you rock period


umm...i'm never scalped a ticket either - which either makes me really
naive (doubtful, i'm a rem fan who has seen waaay too many shows, tho that
pat denitizo show did rock - and you do need to email me...)


folks  - i've needed tixs to a sold out show for dylan on the night before
my honors orals at a small venue - i got them at cost....

go to the venue before the show and believe in karma - works like magic for me


mjr


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i'm excited about the charlie rose show.  hopefully a chance to get past the standard - "so you're not a couple?" type questions.  :-)


greetings:


mark your calendars for the week of march 7th. if you watch tv, it will be hard to miss the indigo girls performing. double check scheduled times for your time zone:


monday, march 8 - the today show at 8:45 am
thursday, march 11 - the view at 11:00 am-12:00 pm
saturday, march 13 - cbs saturday morning 7:00 am - 9:00 am


march 12 or the next week - charlie rose
march 14 or 21 - a&e breakfast for the arts


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it always mystifies me how many people on this list say that emily was
originally the better songwritier and amy had to catch up. i've been
listening to 1989 and have introduced a bunch of people to ig over the
years. almost universally, we've agreed that amy is the better songwriter
and emily the better musician. every cd they've released has confirmed this
opinion for me. on rop, i finally thought emily caught up to amy and on so
they seemed pretty equal. but on shaming and atwli, amy seems to dominate
again (by is full of emily greatness). i just don't think anything emily has
ever written holds a candle to "strange fire," "chickenman," "land of
canaan," and "devotion." until i found this list, i don't think i had ever
heard that emily was the better songwriter of the two.


before i get slammed here, i'm not saying anything bad about emily. she's
awesome. she writes good songs ("the wood song" is the best moment of so,
imo), has a great voice, and plays a mean guitar--not to mention piano and
banjo. the whole of ig is definitely better than the sum of its parts.


cheers,
tom m.
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don't want to offend
so don't call me faggot
not unless you are a friend."
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i never thought either was "better", they write so differently and bring complementary skills to each song in performance.  i think the voice blend is little short of miraculous and a lead guitar (even one played by the awesome emily) is always better with a great rhythm player to back it. indigo girls really is greater than the sum of its parts - and given parts like amy and emily...

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hello all
i have 2 tickets that i no longer need
for the indigo girls saturday
radio city show at 8pm
they are in orch 6 row gg
i am only asking face value
including all ticketmaster fees
$108.75
please email me if interested
thanks a lot
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not much to say since i'm late on this, but the one
thing i've decided is that if i took all the amy songs
off by and all the amy songs (except maybe cordova)
off atwli and put them together, it would be my
perfect album.  i hate to say it, but the stuff emily
writes now bores me.  that's really sad, since most of
my favorite old ig songs were emily songs.


liz

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i am offering up my poster as well.  drop me a line.


gabrielle


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subject:      asheville tonight --barbara?


just a small shout out to barbara, who is going to the asheville show tonight .... i hope the show is great! send us all a small review when it's over, will ya?


my niece- also named susan-- was born yesterday :) it was very exciting!


xo
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i have completed a second tape full of episodes of "the l-word" on showtime. i have included a bonus on the end of the second tape. so if anyone who wants a copy of both tapes just sends a sase and two blank vhs tapes and i will copy them for you.


if is easier to just send cash, if you send $10 and your address, i will copy both tapes and send them to you.


if you are interested, email me privately.


-scott


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ah! charlie rose!!!! yea! i've been waiting for him to interview the
girls for two (?) years!!!!


for anyone who's never heard of hime, he's on
60 minutes ii on wednesdays, but he has his own show on public tv that
comes on in here
in the twin cities at  11:00 pm weeknights. he's really good, and has a
lot of political types
on.


peace
barb


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hi all,


so i am watching right now...apologies if this is old news....


there was just a bit showing amy talking about dq. she said that ' all of her songs seem to start out being about her neighbor'...and said that dq (which is hwere everyone in her town congregates...after drinking or softball games or what have you) is no different, she had heard that her neighbor and his wife had a fight, and he went down to the dairy queen afterwards. then she said the rest of the song is about a 'good breakup', the kind of breakup that ends positively, and how good that is because it is so rare, and that everyone should have a good breakup as she and her girlfriend did.


so there. no ex-girlfriends causing scenes at dairy queen, but a breakup song nonetheless. i have to admit, it was a little hard to imagine jennifer baumgardner tossing a snickers blizzard around haphazardly.... that neighbor of amy's, not so hard to imagine !


xo
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at 09:00 pm 3/5/04 +0000, susan marine wrote:
>hi all,
>
>so i am watching right now...apologies if this is old news....


anyone got a setlist...? different than the dvd???


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action alert!!  senate resolution calls for medicaid
cuts"

                           an action alert from
families usa <healthaction@familiesusa.org>:

                           late yesterday the senate
released its budget resolution -
                           the first legislative step
in setting federal budget
                           parameters for the coming
years - and it's terrible news
                           for state medicaid
programs. the resolution proposes
                           cutting medicaid by at
least $11 billion over five
                           years.

                           please join us in
vigorously opposing these cuts - call or
                           e-mail your two u.s.
senators today and ask them to oppose
                           the medicaid cuts called
for in the senate budget
                           resolution. if the budget
resolution ends up containing
                           such cuts, urge your
senators to vote no on final
                           passage. to find out how to
contact your u.s. senators,
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                           why are these cuts bad
news? most states are still
                           suffering from the
recession and facing continued medicaid
                           cuts. on top of that, the
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june 30, 2004. when it expires,
                           many states are expected to
make new cuts. in addition, the
                           new medicare prescription
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                           medicaid administrative
costs for a number of states.

                           the senate budget
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                           help reduce the number of
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                           or proposals.

                           instead of helping the
states and reducing the number of
                           uninsured, the senate
budget committee's proposal to cut
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                           americans and lead to
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                           to our nation's nursing
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                           disabilities, and millions
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                           mothers.

                           there are other serious
problems with the senate budget
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>from the sony ig list:


wanna see indigo girls live in nyc?
on thursday, march 11, indigo girls are performing a special 5-song =
acoustic
set in new york city that will air live over wfuv. it will be in an =
intimate
setting and a few of you core fans on this list are going to get to be
there.


here's all you have to do.
send a new email (do not forward/reply to this one) to:
epic_contest@sonymusic.com
with your full name, address, age, and a phone number where we can reach =
you
with the subject line:
"i want to see indigo girls live in nyc!"


musts:
- you must be in the new york area on thursday, march 11.
- you must be available from 12:30pm - 1:30pm on that day.=20


the first seven fans who write us back as per the above will get a pair =
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tickets and get to be part of the live audience!!!=20


all of you in the new york area can also listen to wfuv at 90.7fm or =
online
at wfuv.org!


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ok, i have heard this is not the same thing as the dvd - i am asking a
friend to try and tape it...


how much difference is the freeview (and having keb mo's set is good indeed)


thanks


mike r.


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just wanted to say publicly how cool it is that people who don't want the
posters are giving them away to other fans.


lauren
(who's off to see melissa etheridge in denver tonight!)


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does anyone know it's release date?


barb......who's anxiously waiting for it (the book)


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> does anyone know it's release date?
>
> barb......who's anxiously waiting for it (the book)


amazon lists its release date as july 23, 2004. and here's the blurb:


indigo girl emily saliers and her father don saliers explore the many
dimensions of music in our spiritual lives*
music is a central practice in most expressions of spirituality and faith-
whether it's the christian music of seeker services, traditional hymnody,
liturgical chant and singing, or popular music ballads about the meaning of
life. in this rich exploration of music across all these settings and styles,
authors don and emily saliers interweave their own stories as well as those of
others to reveal the importance of music as spiritual practice and a force for
good in our lives, looking at such topics as music and justice, music and
grief, music and delight, and music and hope.

mandy,
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it was wonderful!  not much talk (which i missed) but a lot of music!  =
they have the band with them.  emily looks like a little rock star-she =
is tiny and she was really getting into the music!  they played most of =
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great!
(thanks to susan's ticket!)


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hey y'all,


i have an extra ticket for the ig project for sale.  it's for the 2pm sunday
(28 march) show in orchestra row g.  i'm just looking to sell it for what i
paid ($65.00 including ticketbastard fees  -- no, i didn't, for some reason, use
the group discount for this one).  i decided to skip the sunday afternoon
show and to hang out with some friends who will be in town instead.  let me know
if you want it.


xoxo
karen


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them anymore?" -- emily saliers ("come on home")
"if you can't see beyond the myth of isolation and the miracle of daybreak
doesn't move you anymore, connect the points and see the constellations..." --
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throwing bras on stage....? do women really think this is a cool thing
to do? i find it distasteful and am surprised that amy and emily would
find pleasure in it.


barbara sanders wrote:


>it was wonderful!  not much talk (which i missed) but a lot of music!  they have the band with them.  emily looks like a little rock star-she is tiny and she was really getting into the music!  they played most of atwli, a couple of new songs, and some old favorites....amy was fantastic--several people threw their bras onstage and she was smiling as she removed them from under foot!  sarah bettens from k's choice got up and sang with them for one song.  everyone was up and rocking--it was great!
>(thanks to susan's ticket!)
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i think it's funny. doubt anybody meant it as anything but an ironic
crazy-concertgoer gesture.


not that i would want to do that with mine. i'd be way too floppy then.


this has been your tmi for the day-ily
andrea


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> throwing bras on stage....? do women really think this is a cool thing
> to do? i find it distasteful and am surprised that amy and emily would
> find pleasure in it.
>
> barbara sanders wrote:
>
> >it was wonderful!  not much talk (which i missed) but a lot of music!  they have the band with them.  emily looks like a little rock star-she is tiny and she was really getting into the music!  they played most of atwli, a couple of new songs, and some old favorites....amy was fantastic--several people threw their bras onstage and she was smiling as she removed them from under foot!  sarah bettens from k's choice got up and sang with them for one song.  everyone was up and rocking--it was great!
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set list, anyone?


tom m.


"you don't want to sound dumb
don't want to offend
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date:         sun, 7 mar 2004 14:13:05 -0700
reply-to:     "amy m." <indigrrl1200@hotmail.com>
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i just asked at barnes & noble a couple days ago and the woman checked the
computer and it said aug. 5...maybe amazon has some sort of special early
release or something. i dunno...

>from: mandy burton <eburton@uchicago.edu>
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>date: sat, 6 mar 2004 22:39:43 -0600
>
> > does anyone know it's release date?
> >
> > barb......who's anxiously waiting for it (the book)
>
>
>
>amazon lists its release date as july 23, 2004. and here's the blurb:
>
>indigo girl emily saliers and her father don saliers explore the many
>dimensions of music in our spiritual lives*
>music is a central practice in most expressions of spirituality and faith-
>whether it's the christian music of seeker services, traditional hymnody,
>liturgical chant and singing, or popular music ballads about the meaning of
>life. in this rich exploration of music across all these settings and
>styles,
>authors don and emily saliers interweave their own stories as well as those
>of
>others to reveal the importance of music as spiritual practice and a force
>for
>good in our lives, looking at such topics as music and justice, music and
>grief, music and delight, and music and hope.
>
>
>mandy,
>who, for the record, still thinks "a song to sing, a life to live" is a
>really
>cheesy title
>
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is anyone else getting a dns error when they try to go to indigogirls.com?
i'm just wondering if there's a problem on their end or with my isp.


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fyi- bishop gene robinson, the first openly gay bishop of the episcopal =
church and bishop of the diocese of new hampshire will be on 60 minutes =
tonight at 7 pm eastern time on =
cbs.http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml


peace,
jen


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subject:      direct tv set list


hi,


the direct tv show playing all weekend for free (at least in raleigh) includes:


dq
fill it up again
come on home
perfect world
closer to fine
tether
heartache for everyone
free in you
galileo
kid fears


each song has a interview/intro before it, including the story of dq, the story behind perfect world. their relationship to their current producer, info about the rarities record, and their memory of past shows played at the bottom line. sorry if any of this is repetitive of the dvd-- i haven't actually watched it yet.


xo
sus


ps friends in nashua and friends in billerica, i am making you copies.


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does anyone know the password or how i can get tickets when they go on
pre-sale this thursday?


any help would be greatly appreciated!


thanks,
amanda


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howdy ya'll,


well, i've neglected my boots too long and they've begun to pile up.  i'm in the process of trying to make cover art for a few recent boots i've obtained and wanted to know if anyone has any whereabouts for some good recent concert photos or if any promo photos for the new album are floating around anywhere?  i've seen like, thumbnails of a couple of promo shots and the girls look fabulous, but nothing big enough to use.


if anyone can help me out it would be great!  i'd even throw in a boot if there's anything i have that you need!  send along any pics/links if you have the time!  peace and love ya'll.

~juliana


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on 7 mar 2004 at 17:30, jen cattin wrote:


> fyi- bishop gene robinson, the first openly gay bishop
> of the episcopal church and bishop of the diocese of new
>hampshire will be on 60 minutes tonight


i work in an episcopal church that has greatly been effected by the
ordination of gene robinson.  the priest, when faced with a mass
exodus of people protesting his ordination, decided to make sure
that everyone knew that "all people" were welcome at her church.
she currently has posters welcoming "all people" displayed at local
glbt bars and other frequently visited places.  guess what?  her
pews are starting to fill!


gene is so eloquent.  i'm sorry that people can't see past his
sexuality to hear how impassioned he is for his faith.


michelle


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setlist highlights:
jonas & ezekial
faye tucker
go
devotion
love will come to you
least complicated
tether- omg this was amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dq
fill it up again
rise up
...
this is no particular order....but this was the best show i have ever been to...ever!!!!!


highlight from knoxville:
trouble


highlight from norfolk:
scooter boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


a very sleepy-
dee:)


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the kbco website has posted photos from the 2/23 show at the soiled dove in denver.
http://www.kbco.com/jacor-common/globalphotos.html?eventid=23936&eventsection=&pagecontent=


enjoy!
catherine


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