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date:         thu, 15 apr 2004 09:42:37 -0400
reply-to:     chuck mongiovi <mongiovi@rcn.com>
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in "limb-from-limb" there was a song by a deep-voiced male singer, played
during the parking garage scene (between kat and ivan) with the lyric "i'll
be your man" in it .. anyone know the name / artist?


-chuck


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date:         thu, 15 apr 2004 13:09:02 -0400
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ticketweb managed to screw up my order, and i am left with an extra pair of tickets to the denver show (on the 29th only).  i remember last time it sold out before non members could even try to get tickets, so if you are interested you may want to grab these up now.  they're $112 for the pair.  i would consider splitting them up for $56 per ticket (that includes all service fees, but it is face value).  i just want to get back what i paid.  email me if you are interested.  the tickets should arrive to me in about 10 days...


thanks!


:-) karen
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"you can grow what you want but one day it's gonna rise up so plant what you need to make a better stand" -- amy ray, indigo girls ("tether")
"it's just the forces of your past you fought before, don't you recognize them anymore?" -- emily saliers ("come on home")
"if you can't see beyond the myth of isolation and the miracle of daybreak doesn't move you anymore, connect the points and see the constellations..." -- amy ("perfect world")
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date:         fri, 16 apr 2004 20:53:39 -0400
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somebody was asking about these boots.  i just located them so if you are=
still interested, let me know.


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date:         sat, 17 apr 2004 10:10:03 -0400
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i remember reading over the years that people on this list have gotten lucky getting really good seats through ticketmaster at the last minute.  after missing the 3/22 release of tickets on cc.com for the 6/11 show in boston, i found that ticketmaster didn't release such good seats yesterday as i had hoped they might, so i wondered about trying "at the last minute"  but is that a week before, days before?


also, does anyone know how a ticketmaster event got to be offered on cc.com?  isn't that next ticketing?  i'm pretty confused by this and have not gotten anything more than an automated response from t'master.  if i'm registered w/t'master to buy ig events and they go up on cc.com, what chance do i have?  i've never heard of cc.com until someone on this list posted about the 3/22 sale of the 6/11 show a week afterwards.  by then, the good seats were long gone.


pretty frustrated,
rena


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date:         sat, 17 apr 2004 17:19:01 edt
reply-to:     mnoelm@aol.com
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hey y'all,


not going to post a full review of last night's concert in austin because i
am just about to start getting ready for tonight's show in dallas(!), but have
a question - did an amazing version of chickenman, one of the best i've ever
heard or seen.   amy inserted a verse about taking a ride with her dogs and
this life isn't long or something like that.  does anyone know what i'm talking
about and do you have the lyrics and know what the song is?  is there a boot of
it floating around?  emily played a little slide guitar at the end of the
song and her solo was some of the best playing she's ever done.  it was breath
taking :-)


overall, the concert was fun, but it was one of those all-standing,
all-the-time venues, and my 40+ body just can't handle it like it once could.  we were
up front against the barrier, amy-side, so not as bad as being trapped
standing for three hours in the middle of 2600 people, but still not fun.  wandered
into the sound check, which was audible outside btw, and heard them both
playing around.  emily did a beautiful version of first cut is the deepest as a
warm-up.


it was just the two of them playing acoustic and they didn't do tether, which
is my absolute favorite amy song of all time.  maybe it just doesn't do well
without the drums and keyboard?  emily's voice was not in good form at all.
has that been a problem at any other stops on this tour?  she was really
reaching for her high notes, and not hitting them, and her harmonies were pretty
shrill.  but a bad day at an ig concert is better than a good day fishing!


peace out, y'all,


pam in big d


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date:         sat, 17 apr 2004 18:38:47 -0400
reply-to:     "lynne @listserve" <timlynlist@comcast.net>
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i saw them on march 8th in wilmington and they did a fabulous job on
"tether" (sorry) and emily looked and sounded great. as for seeing favorite
songs, i usually get to see them 2 times on each tour, i estimate about 20
times since 1997 and i've never caught "virginia woolf" once. they always
seem to play it either the nite before or the night after the concert i get
to see. so, pam you and i can line up in front when they finally do a
"request only" concert. (a concert that lives in many imaginations, i'm
sure)
lynne


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date:         sun, 18 apr 2004 14:39:18 -0400
reply-to:     jude hunter <hunterj_one@msn.com>
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please contact me if you are.  i have a ? about a tape you made.


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date:         sun, 18 apr 2004 16:13:07 edt
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anyone willing to send me a copy of the charlie rose interview for trade or
b&p?


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date:         sun, 18 apr 2004 13:13:19 -0700
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no ig content, but this does talk about the march in
washington on march 25th. and it's hysterical!


http://www.rightwingeye.com/

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date:         sun, 18 apr 2004 18:49:36 edt
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sorry for the broad post, but i don't have your email!  you and i are
competing on ebay for the same item.  i will sell it to you for the winning price (if
i win).  i just want a xerox color copy of the kristen hall article for the
archive on my website...this item is already selling for more than it's worth!


deal?


thebagel


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date:         sun, 18 apr 2004 20:48:05 -0400
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subject:      sigc - amy goodman at march for womens lives and in minneapolis -
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hi folks -
just passing on info from the democracy now website and from what i heard
on the show


amy goodman, the mistress behind dn! states she will be at the march (your
fellow indymedia guru is still waiting for credential comfirmation and
travel plans - but looks sorta like i will be going...)


and barb - thursday or friday (she said it on her 4/15 show) she will be
kfai in minneapolis....


a faithful listener, and actually - i help my friend kate play a couple
shows a week in lewiston fridays on wrbc 91.5 4-6 pm...


they have a web stream so if you ever wanna hear me - there you go.


(of course, big issues about dis rights reporting - or total lack there of,
butr this is not the list serv)


so - maybe i will see some of the ig list there - there is a meetup
victoria setup right???


mike r.


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date:         sun, 18 apr 2004 21:21:16 -0400
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if anyone needs to get rid of two tix for the ig concert in charlotesville,
va (april 26)..... please contact me.


i made the mistake of waiting until i was at a plan 9 in order to avoid
ticketmaster prices (the principle makes....)


thanks, meg

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out-of-the-way things to happen, that it seemed quite dull and stupid for
life to go on in the common way.~ -lewis carrol


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date:         mon, 19 apr 2004 00:01:35 -0500
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subject:      nigc - other concerts - other artists - md/de/pa/nj
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hi everyone -
every once in awhile i post some of the concerts my small but fun
productions company is putting on that might be of interest to the group.
check out www.listeningpost.us for more information on tickets and times.
you can delete if you want...here goes


friday, april 23 - john gorka w/ diana jones - excellent artists both in
their own right and if you have never hear diana jones sing - you are
missing out.  she is an excellent vocalist and songwriter.  go to
http://www.dianajonesmusic.com to learn more about her.  can't loose!


friday, april 30 - fruit - this is a group from australia - they are so
amazing. sonia tours with them when she is downunder.  rich harmonies,
horns, keyboards and guitars.  can't loose.  also good connections with
laura love.  learn more at http://www.fruitmusic.com.au


wednesday, may 19 - janis ian - come one sisters and brothers.  this is a
great show and its going to be at the university of delaware.
http://www.janisian.com


tuesday, june 8 - catie curtis w/ girlyman - another chance to see excellent
singer-songwriters.  upclose and intimate.  can't miss this one.
http://www.catiecurtis.com and http://www.girlyman.com


all of the shows are guaranteed by 100% and they are in a listening room
environment.  people are there for the music!!  go to www.listeningpost.us
for more information.


thanks,
mary


ps  have suggestions of other artists - i'm all h'ears!


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date:         mon, 19 apr 2004 15:08:21 +1000
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hey folks,


this was sent to the news-only list but it's more appropriate for here
instead... please direct your replies to the original sender at
kdlang1968@aol.com, not to me...


cheers,
sherlyn


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date: mon, 19 apr 2004 00:16:51 edt
subject: re: [ig-news] austin last night


does anyone have the austin set list??

chris in beautiful austin, tx


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in a message dated 4/17/2004 5:38:55 pm central daylight time,
timlynlist@comcast.net writes:
i saw them on march 8th in wilmington and they did a fabulous job on
"tether" (sorry) and emily looked and sounded great. as for seeing favorite
songs, i usually get to see them 2 times on each tour, i estimate about 20
times since 1997 and i've never caught "virginia woolf" once. they always
seem to play it either the nite before or the night after the concert i get
to see. so, pam you and i can line up in front when they finally do a
"request only" concert. (a concert that lives in many imaginations, i'm
sure)
obviously emily was just under the weather in austin because in dallas the
next night she was amazing, the best i've heard her in years.  high energy,
riffing on the songs, laughing and hollering.  it was great.  they actually did
virginia woolf!  and i ran into amy before the show and requested tether, which
they did as part of the encore - such a beautful, powerful song.  saw sully
and asked her if she could get watershed on the set list for a friend of mine
and that was also successful, so while the show wasn't exactly the old "be first
in line and choose the set list" show of old, it was pretty close for us!


peace, love and all things indigo from big d,


pam


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date:         tue, 20 apr 2004 12:18:15 +1000
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hey kids,


forwarded from the news-only list... if you're interested in these tickets
please contact the original sender at the address given below, not me...


cheers,
sherlyn


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date:   thu 1-apr-2004 9:22pm
from:   mjg333@aol.com
subject:        [ig-news] chicago ig tickets sat april 24


hi
i have 2 main floor aisle seats available for sat. anyone interested please email me at skyyy@aol.com


thanks!


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date:         tue, 20 apr 2004 01:36:35 -0400
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i knew i kept myself awake and online for a reason: birthdays!!!!!!


april 20
tuesdayschild@pc-webonics.com (dianne connell)
"memories linger like the fog on the sea
keeping me out of touch with my reality
nothing could ever mean as much to me
as tuesday's children"


april 20
alissa irving (mari798106@aol.com)
"there is no terror in the bang, only in the anticipation of it."
--alfred hitchcock


april 21 ('76)
karey@u.washington.edu (karey weisman eals)
"everything that i believe is wrong with you, is wrong with me
everything i truly love, i love in you and i love in me"


april 22
a-jessio@microsoft.com (jessica owen)


april 23
kayetea@aol.com (katy)


april 24
hoff@tusco.net (rhonda hoffmeyer)


april 24 ('57)
jdjones@earthlink.net (deb)


april 24 ('80)
grnpeace@fullnet.com (kate)


april 24 ('78)
skippeec@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu (elizabeth)
"if you were the last man on earth, i would swim across the ocean on a
rumor that screech from saved by the bell was spotted in japan." -from ellen


april 25 ('78)
ryan@ou.edu (ryan knight)
"every five years or so i look back on my life, and i have a good laugh..."

wow!  well - everyone have a great time celebrating!  maybe you 24's can get together and throw one big party :)


love and devotion,
audra
bge


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date:         tue, 20 apr 2004 23:28:13 +1000
reply-to:     amanda tink <atink@pacific.net.au>
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hi all,


i haven't seen this posted yet - so here is as much of the girlfriends
article as is included on their web site.  is anyone willing to type out
the rest?


   the indigos close-up
   amy ray and emily sailers of the indigo girls on dubya, real love, and
   the new cd that's keeping fans up all night


   interview by lauren dockett
   photography by frank w. ockenfels iii


   [cover_page_pic.jpg] it was the mid-eighties when the indigo girls
   first arrived on the folk rock scene. the georgia-based
   singer-songwriters immediately raised the bar with their smart lyrics
   and grassroots political ethos--and curiosity, too, with their
   gender-neutral lyrics. in the intervening twenty years, and especially
   after they came out in the early nineties, the prolific duo have
   provided the soundtrack for many an awakening. their signature message
   of patience and hope--alongside the outrage--is all over their latest
   release, a strong new studio album called all that we let in.


   the record is their swan song with sony/epic, and brims with the
   lyrical sophistication that has kept the smart hooks from their hits
   alive in our heads all these years. there is new energy here, touches
   of ska and rock anthem rhythms, a branching out that portends good
   things to come from the pair whose near future holds solo projects for
   each and a move to indie labels for the indigo girls. amy ray and
   emily saliers talked to girlfriends on the eve of their new tour from
   their home base in georgia.


   girlfriends: this new record kept me up dancing in my pajamas. it
   makes twenty years of recording together.


   emily saliers: it's been more than twenty years, actually. we've been
   playing professionally together for twenty-four, and have known each
   other since we were kids. we started playing together in high school.
   there's always been something special about it. part of it is that amy
   can be so different from me musically, and our voices are on different
   parts of the spectrum, so they sound good together. and yes,
   politically, we feel basically the same way about things and have had
   the same grassroots education. so it's a real marriage of music and
   issues for us.


   amy ray: activism is just a part of who we are, and we've been
   involved in the native [american] environmental movement since 1991.
   we also stay fueled by the other artists around us. we've done some
   great collaborations. girlfriends: speaking of collaborations, joan
   osbourne is on two of the tracks.


   saliers: joan was touring with the dead when she stopped by to record
   with us. we were lucky to have her. she has really good pitch, is so
   soulful, and she weaves my and amy's voices together in this wonderful
   way. we recorded with her on come on, social and she's our only guest
   artist on this album.


   ray: we always manage to have guests, but it's never something we know
   ahead of time. we do always have friends of ours opening for us,
   though. cordero is this great latin band that will start off this
   tour. they played with us on our last tour and got everyone up
   dancing. i swear, as soon as there was a latin song, it was as if our
   audiences, especially the college ones, had suddenly learned to dance.
   not like us, learning to bang around in moshpits.


   girlfriends: emily, you tackle relationships, the war in iraq, even
   death on this album. could you have written about these issues in the
   same way at the start of your career?


   saliers: i feel wiser from all the travels ... i'm coming to more of a
   sense of peace and am in less of a state of constant agitation. not
   that the political agitation isn't still there, but i now have a
   better sense of how to direct it. no, i definitely couldn't have
   written these songs fifteen years ago.


   girlfriends: the title track, "all that we let in," takes on heavy
   topics and still manages to have that balanced, spiritual feel to it.


   saliers: that song is a real mix for me. i did it in ballad form
   because i find what's happening now so tragic and disturbing. i am so
   agitated by the bush administration and the war on terrorism. along
   with that i want to remember the beauty and minutiae of life. be
   grateful for the person knitting the sweater for her loved one.


   girlfriends: amy, you wrote the album's single, "a perfect world,"
   which talks in part about having a life and still being an activist.
   you live in a tiny mountain town in georgia. do you feel political
   just walking out your door in the morning?


   ray: some of my inspiration for a couple of these songs stems from
   imagined and sometimes real conversations i've had with my neighbors.
   conversations about pacifism versus military might and aggression.
   when is it appropriate and when not? i'd like to be a pacifist but i
   don't know if i would be were i living in some of the african
   countries right now, or if i belonged to an indigenous tribe in south
   america. my pacifism is a privilege i've been afforded here and have
   nurtured.


   when you're in a place like this it's still about trying to fit in. i
   have the protection of fame around me but other people i know are
   working on blending in rather than trying to be radical. and there are
   a lot more of us living in places like this than in [cities such as]
   san francisco.


   still, people need to understand what's going on, even if they're
   close-minded. i wrote my representative recently about not supporting
   family leave and he wrote me back this letter where he ranted about
   homosexuality and people like me and it hurt my feelings! when you're
   not used to that kind of treatment you can see it on the news and
   intellectualize it but it's different when it happens to you. i was so
   mad i wrote him right back and told him how my parents were both
   republicans and he better wake up before he becomes obsolete!


   girlfriends: in the song "cordova," you talk about the discomfort of
   being a white girl fighting for a non-white cause. have you reconciled
   that?


   ray: when emily and i were first involved in the native [american]
   environmental movement we had to tread lightly. in the beginning, i
   did feel really white and bad about that. and being a white
   southerner, i also felt bad about my history. but i had to get over
   that and eventually began to feel good about the good traditions that
   are also a part of me. that's when the energy around me changed.


   girlfriends: you must have seen changes in the way your sexuality is
   viewed over the years since you came out.


   saliers: at times [being out] may have held us back. we've been
   pigeonholed as a radically political lesbian band. but i like that,
   honestly. [in reality, we] do cross over and have a large audience
   from different backgrounds. that's why our shows are so great, to see
   these people come together for the music. and sure, we've seen more
   gay and lesbian acceptance in general over the last twenty years. but
   it's still depressing to pick up the paper and read about people
   spending a billion dollars to protect heterosexual marriage, spending
   so much energy on the gay episcopal priest and ordination issues. the
   backlash depresses me. i'm happy for the evolution, but we could use a
   lot more.


   girlfriends: you could make a guest appearance on the l word...


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does anyone know who might be opening for the girls on their 3rd leg of =
the tour (new england)?  nothing is posted on their site yet.


peace,
jen


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according to high road touring, for most of the third leg, it's cordero.
roman candle is opening a few shows in the midwest area.


:-)


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war (or again, insert any political issue) is wrong or right, and some of them
do - amy ray of the indigo girls, for example, most certainly knows more about
media consolidation and the destruction of native lands than at least 50% of
our congressmen." -- "performing songwriter," march/april 2004


"you can grow what you want, but one day it's gonna rise up, so plant what
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>>according to high road touring, for most of the third leg, it's cordero.<<


cordero kick ass. y'all need to make sure you're there in time to hear them.


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i believe that was "i'm your man" by leonard cohen.


on a different note (i'm so punny), anyone going to one of the shows at
humphrey's in san diego?  funny story about that... when i found out =
they
were playing there, i got so excited i went online from work and got two
tickets right away.  i couldn't get the tickets i wanted (dinner seats) =
for
the first show, so i ended up buying them for the second.  deliriously
happy, i jumped up from my seat and ran down to my friend's office to =
tell
him the news (he's a closeted ig fan).  as i'm reliving the =
pressure-filled
moments of "you only have 3 minutes to complete your purchase", all =
hyped up
like a crystal meth queen, he asks "so when's the show?", to which i =
reply
"july 12th.... (pause) now why does that date mean something to me...?"  =
and
then it hits me.  july 12th is my anniversary with my girlfriend.  well,
that's no problem because she'd love to see them too!  and then it hits =
me
(i'm a bit hard-headed so it takes a few taps) -- my girlfriend bought =
me
6th row tickets to see sarah mclachlan for my birthday.  my birthday is =
in
may, the tickets went on sale in march and the concert is, you guessed =
it,
july 12th!  at this point i'm thinking "i'm in soooooo much trouble!"
because i know there is no way i'm missing this ig show.  well, to make =
a
short story long, i told her, she didn't mind, and i was able to sell my
tickets for the sarah mclachlan show to my closeted ig friend.


thanks for putting up with my ramblings!


parenthetically yours,
r.


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mus-ings [myoozingz] plural noun:
thoughts, especially when aimless and unsystematic...


don't confuse an open mind with one that's vacant.


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> in "limb-from-limb" there was a song by a deep-voiced male singer, =
played
> during the parking garage scene (between kat and ivan) with the lyric
"i'll
> be your man" in it .. anyone know the name / artist?
>
> -chuck
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the minneapolis show on thursday?


i haven't seen anything on the official site?

barb


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cordero.


:-) karen

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so have they been opening this whole time? it's
odd that they aren't mentioned. i told my friend i
thought they were not having an opening act
because they usually announce it.


oh well....like always, mark and i will have two bands to enjoy instead
of one....(and he
likes world beat music and anything to do with
it.so.....he never knew about ig until i came along.)


barb


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thank you amanda,
i was hoping someone might put the article on the list for those of us  who
didn't get the magazine.  anyone want to post the rest of the
interview???...please?


peace,
jen

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> hi all,
>
> i haven't seen this posted yet - so here is as much of the girlfriends
> article as is included on their web site.  is anyone willing to type out
> the rest?
>
>    the indigos close-up
>    amy ray and emily sailers of the indigo girls on dubya, real love, and
>    the new cd that's keeping fans up all night
>
>    interview by lauren dockett
>    photography by frank w. ockenfels iii
>
>    [cover_page_pic.jpg] it was the mid-eighties when the indigo girls
>    first arrived on the folk rock scene. the georgia-based
>    singer-songwriters immediately raised the bar with their smart lyrics
>    and grassroots political ethos--and curiosity, too, with their
>    gender-neutral lyrics. in the intervening twenty years, and especially
>    after they came out in the early nineties, the prolific duo have
>    provided the soundtrack for many an awakening. their signature message
>    of patience and hope--alongside the outrage--is all over their latest
>    release, a strong new studio album called all that we let in.
>
>    the record is their swan song with sony/epic, and brims with the
>    lyrical sophistication that has kept the smart hooks from their hits
>    alive in our heads all these years. there is new energy here, touches
>    of ska and rock anthem rhythms, a branching out that portends good
>    things to come from the pair whose near future holds solo projects for
>    each and a move to indie labels for the indigo girls. amy ray and
>    emily saliers talked to girlfriends on the eve of their new tour from
>    their home base in georgia.
>
>    girlfriends: this new record kept me up dancing in my pajamas. it
>    makes twenty years of recording together.
>
>    emily saliers: it's been more than twenty years, actually. we've been
>    playing professionally together for twenty-four, and have known each
>    other since we were kids. we started playing together in high school.
>    there's always been something special about it. part of it is that amy
>    can be so different from me musically, and our voices are on different
>    parts of the spectrum, so they sound good together. and yes,
>    politically, we feel basically the same way about things and have had
>    the same grassroots education. so it's a real marriage of music and
>    issues for us.
>
>    amy ray: activism is just a part of who we are, and we've been
>    involved in the native [american] environmental movement since 1991.
>    we also stay fueled by the other artists around us. we've done some
>    great collaborations. girlfriends: speaking of collaborations, joan
>    osbourne is on two of the tracks.
>
>    saliers: joan was touring with the dead when she stopped by to record
>    with us. we were lucky to have her. she has really good pitch, is so
>    soulful, and she weaves my and amy's voices together in this wonderful
>    way. we recorded with her on come on, social and she's our only guest
>    artist on this album.
>
>    ray: we always manage to have guests, but it's never something we know
>    ahead of time. we do always have friends of ours opening for us,
>    though. cordero is this great latin band that will start off this
>    tour. they played with us on our last tour and got everyone up
>    dancing. i swear, as soon as there was a latin song, it was as if our
>    audiences, especially the college ones, had suddenly learned to dance.
>    not like us, learning to bang around in moshpits.
>
>    girlfriends: emily, you tackle relationships, the war in iraq, even
>    death on this album. could you have written about these issues in the
>    same way at the start of your career?
>
>    saliers: i feel wiser from all the travels ... i'm coming to more of a
>    sense of peace and am in less of a state of constant agitation. not
>    that the political agitation isn't still there, but i now have a
>    better sense of how to direct it. no, i definitely couldn't have
>    written these songs fifteen years ago.
>
>    girlfriends: the title track, "all that we let in," takes on heavy
>    topics and still manages to have that balanced, spiritual feel to it.
>
>    saliers: that song is a real mix for me. i did it in ballad form
>    because i find what's happening now so tragic and disturbing. i am so
>    agitated by the bush administration and the war on terrorism. along
>    with that i want to remember the beauty and minutiae of life. be
>    grateful for the person knitting the sweater for her loved one.
>
>    girlfriends: amy, you wrote the album's single, "a perfect world,"
>    which talks in part about having a life and still being an activist.
>    you live in a tiny mountain town in georgia. do you feel political
>    just walking out your door in the morning?
>
>    ray: some of my inspiration for a couple of these songs stems from
>    imagined and sometimes real conversations i've had with my neighbors.
>    conversations about pacifism versus military might and aggression.
>    when is it appropriate and when not? i'd like to be a pacifist but i
>    don't know if i would be were i living in some of the african
>    countries right now, or if i belonged to an indigenous tribe in south
>    america. my pacifism is a privilege i've been afforded here and have
>    nurtured.
>
>    when you're in a place like this it's still about trying to fit in. i
>    have the protection of fame around me but other people i know are
>    working on blending in rather than trying to be radical. and there are
>    a lot more of us living in places like this than in [cities such as]
>    san francisco.
>
>    still, people need to understand what's going on, even if they're
>    close-minded. i wrote my representative recently about not supporting
>    family leave and he wrote me back this letter where he ranted about
>    homosexuality and people like me and it hurt my feelings! when you're
>    not used to that kind of treatment you can see it on the news and
>    intellectualize it but it's different when it happens to you. i was so
>    mad i wrote him right back and told him how my parents were both
>    republicans and he better wake up before he becomes obsolete!
>
>    girlfriends: in the song "cordova," you talk about the discomfort of
>    being a white girl fighting for a non-white cause. have you reconciled
>    that?
>
>    ray: when emily and i were first involved in the native [american]
>    environmental movement we had to tread lightly. in the beginning, i
>    did feel really white and bad about that. and being a white
>    southerner, i also felt bad about my history. but i had to get over
>    that and eventually began to feel good about the good traditions that
>    are also a part of me. that's when the energy around me changed.
>
>    girlfriends: you must have seen changes in the way your sexuality is
>    viewed over the years since you came out.
>
>    saliers: at times [being out] may have held us back. we've been
>    pigeonholed as a radically political lesbian band. but i like that,
>    honestly. [in reality, we] do cross over and have a large audience
>    from different backgrounds. that's why our shows are so great, to see
>    these people come together for the music. and sure, we've seen more
>    gay and lesbian acceptance in general over the last twenty years. but
>    it's still depressing to pick up the paper and read about people
>    spending a billion dollars to protect heterosexual marriage, spending
>    so much energy on the gay episcopal priest and ordination issues. the
>    backlash depresses me. i'm happy for the evolution, but we could use a
>    lot more.
>
>    girlfriends: you could make a guest appearance on the l word...
>
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amanda writes:
>hi all,
>
>i haven't seen this posted yet - so here is as much of the girlfriends
>article as is included on their web site.  is anyone willing to type out
>the rest?
yeah, ok, i'll bite...what? i have no life! want to make something of it?! (kidding...heh, heh, heh. seriously...) anyway...picking up at the "l word" question (which was an awfully suspenseful place to leave it. and refraining from editorializing):
girlfriends: you could make a guest appearance on "the l word".
saliers: ugh. i've seen an episode and who *are* those people? where do they live? i read an article where the people behind teh who talked about making sure it appealed to more than just a lesbian audience by making it titillating for men, by reeling them in. and that's just disgusting.
girlfriends: there are a lot of different takes on love on this album. emily, do you find that being in a long relationship is fodder for your songs?
saliers: relationships are my favorite thing to write about. there are so many different avenues to explore. the best way to learn about yourself is in a relationship: it's this microcosm of reality.
          my partner is very supportive of my exploring these issues in the music. but you know, people assume that you are writing directly from your experience, but i don't [always] write that way. for example, on this record, the song "come on home" is not about my relationship but about what can happen in a bad relationship where things don't change. while the song "free in you" is a straight up love song. it's just, "i love you, thanks a lot."
girlfriends: amy, you're also tackling love on this album. do you have a girlfriend these days?
ray:  i do. she's a new girlfriend. it's been, wow, only about a year. she's amazing, an independent filmmaker. and this is it for me. she's the one. she's a real femme, a great woman. and she lives with me and i really dig it. i haven't ever had this. i understand what everyone means now about finding the person and not looking any further.
girlfriends: congratulations. forgive me, but this has become the question of the day: will there be kids?
ray:  she's gonna have kids, but not for a long time. she's younger than i am. she also travels a lot for her work, which is so great, and i appreciate that she needs to do that. i've gotta make a decision for myself about kids, but i know that definitely we're gonna have a family.

girlfriends: there's talk of both of you doing solo albums.
ray:  i just started [mine] last weekend. i'll be working with a punk band in alabama and with people like jody bleyle (of team dresch). at the moment i'm writing for both the indigo girls and this solo project, but that's the way it always is with me. sometimes the electric songs--like the song "heartache for everyone" on this album--i think of as more of a solo record song, but that line can get a little blurry.
saliers: amy is better at distinguishing her solo songs than i am. i write all the time but it becomes indigo girls music. truthfully, working on this project is like pulling teeth for me. i get caught up in what direction to go in. i'm really into r&b and hip-hop right now. but i don't want to be some girl who's inauthentic, putting out a hip-hop album. what i really need is to set some time. i just got a pro tools rig at my house where i'll be able to build tracks. i think solo work will come out of the experience of putting that together.
girlfriends: any concerns that you'd have to be branded in a new way for a solo effort?
saliers:  branded? uh, no, i'd never let that happen.
girlfriends: your relationship with sony/epic ends with this record. are you glad to sever your major label ties? will you now record on the label co-founded by ray [daemon]?
ray:  daemon is mine so we feel it would be a conflict for us to record on it. i'll do my solo albums with daemon but we haven't really decided what to do after epic. it's a couple of years yet. they've been as good as they can be for a major label. that being said, the label stuff is bad right now. there is so little support for songwriters and musicians. if you are a pop artist, then yes, a big label is where you want to be. a major label can pay for your air time, get you out there. for us, that's no longer such an issue.
saliers: we've been lucky, they've been good to us, but this is definitely our last record with them. we have friends with smaller labels who might take us on. it's too early to tell just yet.
ray:  you know, so much of the infrastructure that a major label used to provide, musicians can manage to do themselves now. i don't know if brick and mortar stores are really who you need to market to anymore, or what will be happening to them. in some ways that's awful but in other ways it's great for more underground musicians. it is creating space. it's like underneath all this shit there's something beautiful.
girlfriends: that's a lovely quote, amy.
ray:  thank you. i'm sure ani [difranco] said it first, but it's true.
-brooklyn-based lauren dockett co-wrote the not-made-for-daytime sex talk.

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date:         wed, 21 apr 2004 13:16:46 +0000
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from: jen cattin jencattin@comcast.net
does anyone know who might be opening for the girls on their 3rd leg of the tour (new england)? nothing is posted on their site yet. peace, jen

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date:         wed, 21 apr 2004 11:47:36 -0700
reply-to:     juliana smith <monkeemaidjules@yahoo.com>
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howdy ya'll!


well, i'm exhausted this morning, but this fatigue was totally worth it!  the concert in madison last night was probably the best one i've been to, on many levels.  the orpheum has a strange stage that must be at least seven-eight feet high, so front row is not really a first pick for most people considering then you're only really seeing the band from about the hip up!  but after waiting in the rain and the 45 degree weather for two hours my girlfriend and i decided that it was the principle of the thing and scored two front row slightly left of center seats.  after three concerts i've finally gotten to sit on amy's side for once.  wow what a thrill.  ; )


anyway, the show went pretty much on schedule and the setlist went something like this:


(in no particular order)


least complicated
heartache for everyone
dairy queen
kid fears
watershed
virginia woolf
let it be me
galileo
closer to fine
wood song
power of two
shame on you
get out the map
go
oziline
starkville
yield
fill it up again
romeo and juliet
come on home


i think i remembered all of the songs played, anyone else is more than welcome to correct me if i forgot a few.


the girls were in great form, both all smiles.  and for the first time in three years the wisconsin crowd got up to dance at the first number and never sat down!  it was an incredible experience, one i've heard other folks give accounts of, that it's just a big swarm of folks moving to the beat the whole time, getting the "full" indigo experience.  i finally got it!  it was such a blast, standing about five feet from amy-albeit she was eight feet *above* me as well-and really getting to see every expression on their face and having them respond to the crowd by waving and smiling to folks in the audience.  it was an all around positive experience.  except that i nearly got kicked out for taking pictures and getting caught.  *rolls eyes*  security had nothing else to do since they couldn't keep the crowd coralled in their seats, i guess.  i only ended up with one decent shot of amy.  if anyone else took pics from this concert i'd really like to see 'em, i always try and take a
few
photos at every concert and this one was really handicapped.


they weren't *too* talkative, but they were in very high spirits.  emily got entangled in a cobweb that was stuck to her mic and i swear took almost three solid minutes trying to disengage herself from the sticky threads.  amy laughed uproariously at this.  there were no technical difficulties and it was very laid back and enjoyable.


major highlights:  emily walking backstage with sulli while amy donned her black guitar to serenade us with "romeo and juliet"!  oh my gosh, i'm not normally one of those fans who becomes goofy and lovestruck during a concert, but amy just blasted the whole crowd!  men and women alike were swooning, at least from where i was standing!  her range must be improving, and i don't mean her voice.  it was *so* incredible, the whole crowd singing it back with her, very passionate, something i won't forget.


someone requested watershed, a woman who was recovering from a pretty serious illness i guess, and it really made that song mean even more.  the woman who'd requested it was up front with us and she looked to be almost in tears.  very charged.


a couple, a man and woman, slow danced in the sort of semi-circle the crowd had made in front of the stage during "come on home" which was really beautiful.  the audience seemed to be full of people last night that *really* loved the girls and really had connected their life experiences to all of the songs.  the whole show was like that, one memory after another brought on by the songs the girls selected.


all in all a fabulous concert!  hope to hear from more people who were there!  and i realize it hasn't even been 24 hours, but i never found a copy of the show the girls did at the madison civic center last year and really would be thrilled if someone had booted this show.  let me know if there will be a copy available out here at some point, i have a pretty sizable boot list for trade!  ok, peace and love folks, enjoy the upcoming concerts!

~juliana


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yes, your account is accurate...the show was excellent~!  the orpheum is
a way better place to see them than the civic center b/c there are dance
restricitions at the ccenter.  i'm happy they came back to the orpheum
because it allowed the whole night to feel super positive.
they also announced that they'll be in milwaukee july 4 - i'm assuming
summerfest...


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date:         wed, 21 apr 2004 13:13:47 -0700
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subject:      fill it up live...
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hey - i forgot to ask y'all following the norfolk
oncert a few months ago.


at that show, it seemed very spontaneous, during
fill it up again, on the first verse, it got
quiet on the first "fill it up again" line, and
there were a lot of people singing along, and
since it got quiet, it was all of a sudden really
easy to hear the crowd sing that line.  well,
emily laughed and so, the next time the chorus
came around again, it was louder, and she laughed
again.  so then, for the last few times,
everybody was yelling, "fill it up again!"


just wondering if this has been happening at all
the shows, or whether it was unique to that one
concert?

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