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date:         thu, 22 apr 2004 21:05:48 -0400
reply-to:     joey krimple <jkrimple@hotmail.com>
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subject:      nigc - bush resume
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hey y'all,
sorry for the nigc, but does anyone remember the bush resume that went out some time ago listing all the terrible things he's done in his tenure?  if anyone still has it would you email it to me please?  thanks!
peace,
joey

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date:         thu, 22 apr 2004 19:32:32 -0700
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i was so mad this morning i had to just leave
work and be outside to clear my head.  this is so
unbelievable.  read on if you like being informed
about discrimination and all its ugliness.
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equality virginia condemns vote by general
assembly ratifying anti-gay civil unions bill


anti-gay measure is alone in the nation in
stripping contract rights for gay virginians


in an outrageous and short-sighted defeat for
fairness and common-sense, the general assembly
today ratified the so-called "marriage
affirmation act," one of the most discriminatory
pieces of legislation to be considered by the
general assembly in decades.


by a vote of 69-30 in the house and 27-12 in the
senate, the general assembly narrowly missed
garnering a 1/3 vote in each house that would
have killed the bill outright. delegate robert
marshall (r-manassas), patron of the bill, led
the charge with a barrage of anti-gay rhetoric
during the floor debate.


"today, virginia codified second-class citizen
status for the hundreds of thousands of gay and
lesbian virginians," said dyana mason, executive
director of equality virginia. "we are not only
disappointed, but we are outraged that
short-sighted virginia extremists succeeded in
condoning a return to an era of legalized
discrimination."


hb 751 not only prohibits the state from
recognizing civil unions (which it already didn't
do), but strips private contractual rights
between same-sex couples by outlawing any
"partnership contract or other arrangements that
purport to provide the benefits of marriage."


once this bill is enacted, it will likely deprive
gay and lesbian virginians of some of the few
choices that they currently have to protect their
families including:


advanced medical directives (also known as power
of attorney)
custody decisions and arrangements
health insurance coverage through those companies
in virginia currently able to offer benefits to
unmarried partners.
estate planning and wills.
because each of these "arrangements" grants
rights contractually that are otherwise available
only through marriage, they can be set aside or
voided by the action of the general assembly.


"unfortunately, gay and lesbian virginians can no
longer call virginia home," said joseph price,
equality virginia board chair. "because of this
hostile legislation, it is clear that many
families will choose to move to maryland or other
states that embrace diversity and welcome
difference."


last week, governor mark warner made
recommendations to remove the most egregious and
unconstitutional language surrounding contract
rights. those amendments were sent back to the
house for ratification where they were rejected
by a vote of 65-35.


"equality virginia will now get to work to
challenge this law in every appropriate forum,"
said mason. "in the courtroom, or in the general
assembly, we have no doubt that this law will
quickly be found unconstitutional. we call on all
fair-minded virginians to send a strong message
to their elected officials that this fight is far
from over."


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date:         thu, 22 apr 2004 23:21:33 -0500
reply-to:     dreiser <moondust@gate.net>
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subject:      a broken bone; shattered plans: chicago ticket available
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hey kids.a man stumbles in his liverpool home, breaks his collarbone,
and who-da-thunk it would affect me? but alas it did. the break meant my
honey had to fly to ireland to take over the unlucky liverpoolian's work
duties. this means 1) she misses the show on saturday night, 2) i'm
bumming, and 3) i have a decent concert ticket available to the first
taker.


the seat is on the floor, row p, right side (i'll have to find out the
exact seat number). the cost of the ticket is $33.50. i'll even wave the
silly tm charges that were paid. but that's not all.included in the
price of the ticket are the added bonuses of sitting, well, next to me,
and also within the realm of fellow listee mr. greg flamer.


can it get any better than that? i doubt it, so contact me if interested
in the ticket and we'll work out the details of meeting up before the
show.


deb


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date:         fri, 23 apr 2004 01:51:52 -0500
reply-to:     barbara bordner <ritesofpassage9@webtv.net>
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as usual  everything was wonderful....well almost (we'll get to that
later..) it opened with
cordero and i really liked them a lot better than
i thought i would....somehow when i picture carribbean music, i picture
meringue, latin, salsa, reggae, ( not that there's anything bad about
that.....i just am not generally into that kind of music.) so when
cordero came on and
got my attention, i really liked them.

there's not really a whole lot  to say about ig,
accept that as usual they were really good! and boy did amy have it
goin' on tonight with that shirt she has on in the girlfriends article
(the first picture.) ......


they were running late and did not get into studio c  at the cities 97
until 5:30, which is
probably why there wasn't a whole lot of banter
back and forth this time around.....although they
did joke...."this is sully, our guitar tech....she'd
like a date but she plays hard to get......we're
trying to find her a girlfriend.......and now she's gonna kill us!!!!!"
they laughed!!!


i just love it when emily does that....so innocent and so full of
mischief i just can't help but love her for it.


anyway i got emily's setlist.......they changed it a little so it's not
as played.......

1. fill it up again
2. perfect world
3. least complicated
4. jonas and ezekiel
5. power of two
6. heartache for everyone
7. woodsong
8. cordova (this was such a gem.)
9. collecting you (so was this one...my favorite      emily song of the
evenng.)


10.shame on you
11.watershed
12.yield
13.let it be me
14.?
15.all that we let in
16.thin line (love that song.)
17.get out the map
18.go  (totally rocked.)
19.closer to fine
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20. dairy queen  ( i think they moved this one          upto number 14.
because they played               tether here.)
21.galileo

so....that's it. good night you all!   or if you read this in the
morning..... have a nice day.
oh.....and anyone else who wants to review
the show....i'd love to read  it.  and if anyone booted this
show.....please
may i have a copy? i'd providethe blank,  sase
postage.....


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date:         fri, 23 apr 2004 06:37:56 -0700
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just a couple of things about what i remember from
last night.  it was great that they played such a good
mix of old and new stuff!  i think it was pretty
interesting to hear the new songs without so much of
the production that you hear on the album.


as for the set list, i don't remember what #14 was,
but it was an amy song and it wasn't dairy queen
because they didn't play it at all last night.


basically the concert rocked and made me smile all
night long!


lisa


--- barbara bordner <ritesofpassage9@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> 1. fill it up again
> 2. perfect world
> 3. least complicated
> 4. jonas and ezekiel
> 5. power of two
> 6. heartache for everyone
> 7. woodsong
> 8. cordova (this was such a gem.)
> 9. collecting you (so was this one...my favorite
>  emily song of the
> evenng.)
> 10.shame on you
> 11.watershed
> 12.yield
> 13.let it be me
> 14.?
> 15.all that we let in
> 16.thin line (love that song.)
> 17.get out the map
> 18.go  (totally rocked.)
> 19.closer to fine
>
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> 20. dairy queen  ( i think they moved this one
>    upto number 14.
> because they played               tether here.)
> 21.galileo
>
>

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date:         fri, 23 apr 2004 11:14:51 edt
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in a message dated 4/22/04 10:33:19 pm eastern daylight time,
tara8595@yahoo.com writes:


> equality virginia condemns vote by general
> assembly ratifying anti-gay civil unions bill


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       i don't have the info in front of me, but i'm equally angry afater
receiving a glaad notice that in michigan, they have approved (are approving?) a
measure that would allow doctors to refuse treatment to gays, based on their
religious beliefs.
       it is time for the revolution to be televised.
deb


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date:         fri, 23 apr 2004 12:01:38 -0500
reply-to:     michele curley <mida1@msn.com>
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hi y'all,
i was silly and got too many tickets expecting friends and family to come through. i've got 3 tickets for the vic tonight in chicago. i paid around 45 for each thru tktb....d; i'll accept face value (around 38 i think).
also i would love to meet some fellow listees (greg??). since i teach near the airport, i probably won't get there till 5:00 or so. let me know if you're interested.
so excited.....
michele

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agreed - the virginia thing barely registered a
blip on the news radar, but it will invalidate my
little legal documents which are the only
protections i have with my partner.  check out
this other stroke of brilliance by our virginia
assembly:


hb 727 marriage; judge who rules same sex
marriage unconstitutional may be subject to
impeachment.
patron - robert g. marshall
summary as introduced:
same sex marriage; impeachment of judge. provides
that any judge who rules virginia's prohibition
against marriage between persons of the same sex
( 20-45.2) unconstitutional is deemed to have
committed malfeasance in office and may be
subject to impeachment under the virginia
constitution.


status:
01/14/04 house: presented & ordered printed,
prefiled 01/13/04 041226396
01/14/04 house: referred to committee for courts
of justice
01/19/04 house: passed by indefinitely in c. j.
(19-y 3-n)
--------------------------
it's not passed yet, but just the idea that
someone would introduce something this moronic is
beyond me.

--- deb woodell <woodelldc@aol.com> wrote:
> ---
>        i don't have the info in front of me,
> but i'm equally angry afater
> receiving a glaad notice that in michigan, they
> have approved (are approving?) a
> measure that would allow doctors to refuse
> treatment to gays, based on their
> religious beliefs.
>        it is time for the revolution to be
> televised.
> deb


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i don't know if everyone knows this, since there are still pretty decent
seats available, but the greek theatre tickets went on sale last weekend,
not this weekend as (i think it was) pollstar or one of the similar type
sites had listed.


anyone out there have their tix yet??  as usual, the three of us (mike, amy
and i) will be there - and yes michael and rhondda, we have much better
seats than the last show at the greek!


take care all -
carrie


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on 23 apr 2004 at 19:48, indigo girls wrote:


> here are the latest confirmed dates for the perfect world tour!
>
> 7/9     albuquerque             albuquerque zoo
> 7/10    tuscon                   city limits
> 7/11    san diego               humphries by the bay
> 7/12    san diego               humphries by the bay
> 7/16    saratoga, ca           villa montalvo center
> 7/17    berkeley, ca           greek theatre
> 7/18    portland, or            portland zoo
> 7/22    jacksonville, or       britt festival
> 7/23    seattle                    the pier
> 7/24    seattle                    the pier
> 7/28    denver                     botanic gardens
> 7/29    denver                     botanic gardens
> 7/30    bellevue, co            mishawaka amphitheatre
> 7/31    chautauque, co       chautauque amphitheatre


ok, they will go to jacksonville-po-dunk (which was one of the
oregon counties that once had a ban against homosexuality and
one against breastfeeding in public!), oregon but not come to
pensacola-gay-friendly, florida?  hmph.  still waiting (impatiently)
and drumming my fingers!


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on 23 apr 2004 at 18:56, michelle leifur wrote:


> on 23 apr 2004 at 19:48, indigo girls wrote:
>
> > here are the latest confirmed dates for the perfect world tour!
> >
> > 7/9     albuquerque             albuquerque zoo
> > 7/10    tuscon                   city limits
> > 7/11    san diego               humphries by the bay
> > 7/12    san diego               humphries by the bay
> > 7/16    saratoga, ca           villa montalvo center
> > 7/17    berkeley, ca           greek theatre
> > 7/18    portland, or            portland zoo


also meant to mention that if you are in the pnw and have an
opportunity to go to the portland zoo concert do!  it is an awesome
venue!  used to go to lots of concerts up there when i lived there.


michelle
"so i could only wait and watch you slip right through my hands "
  - emily saliers


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does anyone know when tickets for the oregon zoo show
will go on sale?  and, for those of you who have been
to the venue before, does the show tend to sell out?
it's possible that i may be able to get tickets
through a friend, but i won't find out for sure until
a few days before the actual show.


thanks,
megan


--- michelle leifur <wieldingwords@cox.net> wrote:
> on 23 apr 2004 at 18:56, michelle leifur wrote:
>
> > on 23 apr 2004 at 19:48, indigo girls wrote:
> >
> > > here are the latest confirmed dates for the
> perfect world tour!
> > >
> > > 7/9     albuquerque             albuquerque zoo
> > > 7/10    tuscon                   city limits
> > > 7/11    san diego               humphries by the
> bay
> > > 7/12    san diego               humphries by the
> bay
> > > 7/16    saratoga, ca           villa montalvo
> center
> > > 7/17    berkeley, ca           greek theatre
> > > 7/18    portland, or            portland zoo
>
> also meant to mention that if you are in the pnw and
> have an
> opportunity to go to the portland zoo concert do!
> it is an awesome
> venue!  used to go to lots of concerts up there when
> i lived there.
>

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date:         sat, 24 apr 2004 00:40:10 -0400
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scapegoating is alive and well in bush's stolen amerika.  anything to
distract public attention from this administration's disastrous policies
and despicable duplicity...


peace,
tim


'we stare through television eyes
digging for truth in fields of lies
sometimes i swear it feels to me
a bit like nazi germany...'  television eyes  tb sept 2002

on fri, 23 apr 2004 11:14:51 edt deb woodell <woodelldc@aol.com> writes:
> in a message dated 4/22/04 10:33:19 pm eastern daylight time,
> tara8595@yahoo.com writes:
>
> > equality virginia condemns vote by general
> > assembly ratifying anti-gay civil unions bill
>
> ---
>        i don't have the info in front of me, but i'm equally angry
> afater
> receiving a glaad notice that in michigan, they have approved (are
> approving?) a
> measure that would allow doctors to refuse treatment to gays, based
> on their
> religious beliefs.
>        it is time for the revolution to be televised.
> deb
>


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what a treat tonight's show in chicago at the vic was.  the vic is an
old movie theater and can't hold more than a thousand people.  it's
always great when a second show is added in a city but at a different
venue.  you know the only ones who will buy tickets to the second show
are die hards and that held true tonight.  what an awesome crowd.  it
seemed like every word of every song was being sung out loud.  the
audience was right on in all the sing along areas and quiet during  the
quiet areas.  very little squirming to the front and nobody got too
drunk or loud.  really great experience outside of standing up for
three hours.  my old body can't do it like i used to.


kelly hogan opened with a few of her friends/bandmates.  kelly is an
old atlanta buddy of the girls who now resides here in chicago.  she
said she had a cold but i didn't notice.  she sounded great,
harmonizing to all  kinds of stuff with her buds.  really excellent
opening.


the venue took a while to fill up.  for a minute i thought we'd have a
private request show-can you imagine.  yes, amy, next i'd like to hear
left it up to me and then emily, you follow with an acoustic cara mia.
i can dream.    the wxrt rep introduced them by saying tomorrow they'll
be at the auditorium theater but tonight they're in your living room.
to give you an idea of the good karma, not one echo of the word galileo
was uttered from any screaming fan that i could hear.  someone yelled
nashville as a request which had to be the first time i've ever heard
that requested.  emily was cute saying--we hear your requests and we'll
ponder them in our hearts--ie no way in hell we're playing that.  they
weren't as chatty as i had hoped just gushing about loving chicago on a
few occasions (no surprise there!).  amy did tell a random story about
birds (don't recall how it got started) and said she had a bird in her
freezer for the last year which quieted the crowd into an awkward
silence.  she said she kind of forgot to get it to the taxidermist on
time.  it was very strange and emily gave her that --you are freaking
out the audience--look.  anyone know more details on this one?  i'm
intrigued.


they did an all acoustic show and i don't recall if the other shows
were with a band or not.  loved hearing all the new songs live.
heartache for everyone  is a whole new song sans ska.


the setlist as best i can remember is as follows in definitely no
particular order:


fill it up again
perfect world
power of two
ozilline
all that we let in
land of canaan (hadn't heard this one in ages and the crowd loved it)
yield
something real
let it be me
johnny rotten
least complicated
get out the map
shame on you
closer to fine
heartache for everyone
free in you
thin line (this was an unreal treat as i had never heard it live in all
my 50+ shows)
dairy queen
------------------------------------
virginia woolf (whoever said they wanted to hear it--you have a chance
and it was gorgeous)
go
galileo


sorry if i missed a song in there.  i'm going off memory and 4 amstel
lights (god bless the vic with beer kiosks in every corner).  also a
big shout out to michele curley who i had the pleasure to finally meet
after years of list chatting.  always fun to meet list folk.  see you
tomorrow night michele!    still love em after all these years.
g'nite--greg


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to complete the audience chat report, amy pointed out that both emily and
her were wearing blouses rather than t-shirts, saying that she had tricked
emily by wearing a t-shirt earlier, then changing.
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wow!  what a fun day!  i had so much fun in line all day and ended up front
row amy side.


anyway, greg did a great job on the setlist... i didn't write it down.


the taxidermist / bird comment pertained to amy discussing that she loves the
bird exhibit at the field museum in chicago.  then she said that she had a
dead bird in her freezer.  appearantly, she found it dead on her property and
needs to find a taxidermist to stuff it for her.


it was hilarious.


i am exhausted.  the redeye 'cross country followed by a day in line is
killing me.


can't wait until tomorrow night and dc!


xox


karen :-)


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i just got back to my mother's house from the first chicago show (read my
other post for details... or slight details.  i am exhausted).  anyway, in my
inbox was kfog's (san francisco's only decent commercial radio station) weekly
email.  the people at kfog are tallying votes of world class rock legends.  ig
is a choice!!!  if you want to take 30 seconds out of your day to vote for our
girls, you can do so here:  http://www.kfog.com/albumtool/


last time there was a kfog poll and ig was a choice (best concerts of 2003),
ig came in at number eight (or something like that).  let's try to do that
again!


thanks!


xoxo


karen


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please email squeen318@aol.com if you're interested...
the venue is the carpenter center in richmond, va

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great review, greg! i can only say "ditto!" "thin line" was an incredible surprise! i hadn't yet read barb's review so i didn't know they had played it the night before. every time i listen to that song on 1200 curfews, my heart just melts...it's so sweetly sung.
finally meeting greg was also a treat! he and his pals rock!
i'm really excited about tonight. my mom is coming for the first time. one of my sisters and some friends from indiana will be there. and my cousin maddi will be there. she's from italy, got an mba here in chicago and really wants to live in chicago. the only company that gave her a work visa is located in st. louis, but she's interviewing with companies here.
anyway, as soon as she moved here, i started dragging her to ig concerts. she fell in love with emily's songs and has yet to hear her favorite one: "everything in its own time." so, i sent ig a couple of notes, hoping that she will finally get to hear it live! she doesn't know i've requested it, so if they play it, it will blow her away!
keeping my fingers and toes crossed, i wish you all a wonderful weekend!
peace, michele

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i received this e-mail if anyone needs a ticket to the show in richmond on
tues. april the 27th.
contact them directly at hswalker@techie.com for info.
-ang
as it turns out i do have one extra ticket.  if you know anyone who wants it.
please let me know.


the tickets were about $35 with ticketmaster fees and i'd let this one ticket
go for $20 just so it doesn't go to waste.


thanks.


sue walker


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i'll let someone else do a full review on tonight's chicago show.  i am
speechless.  the night began when we saw a woman in the lobby with a
t-shirt reading "well it ain't gonna lick itself" across her chest.
so we knew it was going to be a sassy evening.  major highlight for me
was mona lisas and mad hatters during the encore.  i had heard they
were playing this song on the tour and could only dream.  so great to
hear a song live for the first time that you have loved for so many
years.  set list in no order and probably not complete was a nice mix
and not too similar to last nights.


perfect world
fill it up again
become you
power of two
shame on you
yield
get out the map
everything in it's own time (i will let michele share her joy at
playing her request)
least complicated
reunion
wood song
all that we let in
come on home
amy new song (she played solo and the lyrics seem to have love is
kindness as a common theme--anyone know the title?)
closer to fine
heartache for everyone
scooter boys
go
chickenman/bitteroot
----------------------------------------------
dairy queen
mona lisas and mad hatters (nearly fell to the floor in tears)
galileo


deb reiser --care to add anything?  great having you over this
weekend!!!  enjoy the tour, y'all.  they rock!--greg


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it was like the old days.  i was good and wrote down the setlist.  after the
show, i got one from sulli...


as played:


perfect world
fill it up again
become you
power of two
scooter boys
come on home
yield
least complicated
heartache for everyone
all that we let in
shame on you
get out the map
reunion
the wood song
rodeo
closer to fine
go
everything in its own time
chickenman/bitterroot


encore:
dairy queen
mona lisas and mad hatters (not on the setlist... added.  i requested it.  ;)
)
galileo


xoxo


karen


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like greg said - amazing. amazing. this was best indigo girls show i think i've
seen, ever. and not because of where i was sitting - unlike at the vic, where i
could have nailed amy in the forehead with a quarter had i wanted to (i didn't,
particularly) i was way toward the back with all the indigo peons, most of whom
knew the words to the crowd-pleasers but who were uniformly ignorant about
raising one's hands during "go" and which lines were audience territory and
whatnot. it was surprisingly refreshing, actually - nobody was singing so loudly
as to block out amy and emily, and there as none of that bizarrely meretricious
pantomime dancing that gets one (in the case of the vic, me) whacked in the head
near the front row.* the vic show was wonderful, certainly, as others have said,
but in spite of all my expectations to the contrary, the auditorium show just
blew it away.


the tone for the evening was set when, after the first song or two (it must have
been after fiua because amy was suiting up for become you with the harmmonica
whatsit) emily started talking about how beautiful the theatre is, and how it
made her feel reverent. and then amy's all "ow- i think the harmonica's caught
in my hair," and they had to untangle her. it seemed to me as if they felt it
necessary to respond to the decorousness and civility of the room itself with a
more genuine and effusive warmth than i've seen in awhile - exactly the opposite
of what i expected such a formal venue would elicit.


i think they must have mixed up the songlist at the last minute - there were a
lot of surprise jewels (i always love the wood song, and i was surprised as how
much i'd missed reunion) and even the more routine songs felt like treats in the
middle of this mix. amy's new song was really affecting - i suspect it's
actually going to be on the solo album, actually, though i'm not sure why. come
on home was surpisingly powerful to me, much more wisful and intense than the
album cut. chickenman was *awesome*, but then i'm one who feels an ig show
slightly incomplete without it.


my only real regret is that they didn't play tether at either show. or cordova.
or prince of darkness, but i think i have a while yet to wait on that one.


mandy,
who also got excited for michele when they started eiiot


p.s. h, elena! i'm glad you found a babysitter!


* as an aside, what the hell is up with the pantomiming? i'm not talking about
raising your hands during go, i'm talking about the shrieky people in the front
row who seem to think the best way to give amy and emily some love is to act out
all of their lyrics with crushing literalism. as in pretending to be first a
professsor, and then a board, during ctf. if you've been near the front in a ga
show, you've very likely been subjected to it. it doesn't so much annoy me
(except in those moments when it does violence to my person or my sightline) so
much as just confound me utterly. i mean, didn't that get old in third grade?
isn't part of the reason we love the indigo girls enough to line-camp all day
because we appreciate the evocative, metaphorical quality of their lyrics? i
guess i need to learn to be tolerant of all kinds of love, just like we always
say to the christia right, but on balance i'd rather not have to.


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hmmm...


i raise my hands during go, and shake my finger for shame on you.  i suppose
we could rocky horror the whole experience. what else do people do?


what bugs me worst is the people who feel the need to sing every word of
every song. i will never ever forget the idiot who sang romeo and juliet in
my ear in missoula. but i am a stander and a dancer and i know there are
people who have issues with that.


lets not forget the line cutters. i mean duh, after going to shows and
camping out in line all day for a few years (and sharing various forms of
internet communication) we get to know each other. if i saved a spot for all
my internet buddies and my line friends that would just suck for all the
people who were in line for 12 hours behind me.


enough negativity!  i am so happy to hear the girls are doing mona lisa's in
concert. i am looking forward to the summer tour and i really want amy to
sing cordova. in general, i really like the new album.


question for y'all. what song in the whole ig catalog have you done the
biggest turn-around on? for me i think it's sister. i wasn't real thrilled
to hear it played live until amy played it once for a sound check. wow.


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> * as an aside, what the hell is up with the pantomiming?


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> question for y'all. what song in the whole ig catalog have you done the
> biggest turn-around on?


i have 2 - 1 positive and 1 negative.  both are emily songs, and both are
on by.


one is our deliverance.  when i first heard the song everything about it
just made me cringe! i didn't like the theme, i didn't like the lyrics, i
didn't like the tamborine; the whole thing just sounded so simplistic and
immature to me.  but, over the next couple of months after i got by i came
to love it.  i have no idea why.


i'm not sure if the second quite fits into what you were thinking but it's
you've got to show.  i heard a recording of that being performed live and
thought it was brilliant.  i couldn't wait for the album to come out just
so i could hear a studio version of that song.  when by arrived i listened
to that song and i tried hard but just could not get into it.  i think the
whole jazz thing takes all the feeling and sincerity and vulnerability out
of it.  it's a real effort for me to not skip past the song, and most times
i don't make that effort.


amanda.


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i should really be in bed.  i have a very early flight to dc...  i am still
on indigo high from the chicago shows.


but i feel compelled to respond.  my bigges turn around was "andy."  i really
couldn't stand the song until i heard it live.  i'm not sure why.  but when i
heard it live, the music (not the lyrics) had a ghost-like-feel to me.  i
can't quite pinpoint it.  but i really gained an appreciation for the song.


xoxo
karen


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my biggest turn-around was shed your skin.  i grew into the girls, mostly on
emily's hits from swamp ophelia and then, 1200 curfews, so i was not really
into the electric amy.  of course, going to concerts (in july, it will be my
18th and 19th concert in 6 years) changed that completely.


i missed the touring for sots, but caught up during the next couple of years
when they played that song on tour.  my cool calm exterior (heh) gives way
to screaming about the frustrations of life during shed your skin. *laugh*


thanks karen, greg, michele, and all for the recent concert reports.  i am
so looking forward to hearing amy and emily live, especially with the songs
from all that we let in.


when i was browsing on www.lifeblood.net  for turnaround songs, i was
marvelling at their catalog of songs.  at one time when i was so obsessed, i
had memorized nearly all the lyrics from their studio albums, and now, it's
okay that the lyrics from become you and atwli aren't engraved in my
consciousness.  *chuckle*


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the march starts at noon - they are starting coverage at 1pm...


ugh.


in maine cuz i am broke...


mike r.


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does anyone know approx. what time the girls will be on? it's just so i
won't have to watch c-span all day just to see them.


barb


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sounds more appropriate at a melissa ethridge show...


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chicekman. first i hated it, then i heard it live, and i loved it, now i'm pretty freaking tired of it.


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i saw ig on earler doing go (i caught the tale end)....does anyone know
if they are going to be on again? if so do you know when? (i won't be
able to watch the whole thing.).

barb


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"cold case" is a new (good) crime drama on cbs, sundays at 8 pm=2e  this
week's episode just started on the east coase, and the opening couple of
minutes have "closer to fine" playing over the visuals=2e  heads up to wes=
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coasters who may want to tape it=2e=2e


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2:04 am rebroadcast. they are on within the first 15 min.


i taped it - it looked swamped - was there a vip area right in front of the
stage - it looked so high from a photographer perspective.


huge crowd tho - and i love amy in long hair - there is mp3 on it on
www.kfcf.org


the downloads are from 11 - 2 pm.


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you beat me to the post.  actually, closer to fine exerts were played twice
during the show...and yes, cold case is a great show.  wonder how ig feels
about it being played as someone was getting murdered?


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it wasnt that high up it way just alittle ways back there was a area that was reserved for people with disabilities right in front and then an area for the crowd cameras right behind that but it still wasnt too far away.......they werent on for very long.  emily had a cute little shirt on that said "wax bush"


michael reynolds <mike@uppity-disability.net> wrote:2:04 am rebroadcast. they are on within the first 15 min.


i taped it - it looked swamped - was there a vip area right in front of the
stage - it looked so high from a photographer perspective.


huge crowd tho - and i love amy in long hair - there is mp3 on it on
www.kfcf.org


the downloads are from 11 - 2 pm.


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on 4/25/04 10:09 pm, "sarah t. rosenblum" wrote:


> chicekman. first i hated it, then i heard it live, and i loved it, now i'm
> pretty freaking tired of it.


amen. i'm pretty freaking tired of it too. for many years i suffered thru
what became known among the people who go to ig concerts with me as "the
chickenman curse." i couldnt go to a show without it being on the setlist.
really.


then i got about a seven show break. however, after those mindblowing shows
in west palm beach (no chickenman was just icing on the cake) i caught the
show on april 19 at the blue note in columbia mo, where i went to journalism
school and planned a reunion with some friends around the ig concert.


chickenman was back.


the only saving grace was that bitter root is making a cameo in the middle
of the song.


i used to love chickenman. but one too many times, is all i can say.


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> > chicekman. first i hated it, then i heard it live, and i loved it, now
> i'm pretty freaking tired of it.
>
> amen. i'm pretty freaking tired of it too.


this is so funny to me.... chickenman is one of the very few songs i get excited
for every single time i hear it. in fact, a show usually feels incomplete to me
if they don't play it. it's not just about favorites, either; i love me some
wood song, but i think it would stop feeling special if i knew they were going
to play it each time, or even like a waste of a song slot.


i would guess that there really aren't that many songs (at least for veteran
concert-goers like so many of us) that really survive that kind of iron-clad
certainty. what are y'all's? these are mine:


chickenman
least complicated
secure yourself (although since i've heard this live all of *once*, it's hard to
know for sure)
three hits
virginia woolf
yield
closer to fine (i know, but i think i'd miss it)
sister
starkville
shame on you


hmm, that's more than i thought. whereas if i never see them play power of two
or galileo again... okay, i might be a little sad. eventually.


mandy,
apparently still chatty


p.s. my turnarounds have been pretty much all of emily's songs on atwli (but
most especially something real) and collecting you. same story each time - the
album cut feels leaden and syrupy to me, but then when i see it live it's not
only much prettier musically, but also much more emotionally resonant. i'm sure
production is part of it, but it can't be all - i'm thinking of the contrast
between the album cut of y&mot10kw and the version on botby. or is that just me?


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before i go further i have to say i've always been a chickenman lover
from the get go,
i just love that kind of style, it's very ig but
very very appalachian in the melody, and
singing....and i just love the way they jam
on that. so i think of it as the chickenman
blessing rather than the chickenman curse.


to those who travel to show after show and don't like chickenman, (or
galileo, or least complicated,closer to fineor gotm or any other ig song
that gets played repeatedly on a tour)


most people these days don't travel from
show to show, for any band.....not even
their favorite....and so are lucky when the
girls come to their kneck of the woods play their favorite songs.....and
obviously
galileo, power of two, least complicated,
chickenman, and get out the map are their
most popular songs,  so  anyone who chooses
to follow ig cross country can pretty much
expect to hear "the ig six" songs knowing that most of their fans get to
hear those songs
once when they come.


that said....my turn around song??  go....
i  can't stand the studio version, love it live.
i first heard it.......and wonderred if the reading
i so desperately wanted to hear, and understand, was just there to add
more noise.
i figured if they had wanted us to hear meridel
leseur's words, they'd have either turned  the band down a notch, or the
reading up.


it's not in the live version. so that's what i listen to.....i know amy
spent a few years on go. so
i won't say anymore on that.


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this was the first email i read this morning when i got my lazy butt out =
of bed, brain still sleepy, but i understood what mandy had =
written...<y&mot10kw, botby, atwli>   can you just imagine what a non ig =
person might think if they started reading these abbreviations even =
without a cobwebby morning brain, especially y&m...?  thanks for the =
chuckle mandy.


peace,
jen


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amy with long hair?  does anyone have any pictures to share???


> huge crowd tho - and i love amy in long hair - there is mp3 on it on<


jen


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hands down, for me it has to be "soon be to nothing."  i remember where i was
and what i was doing when it happened.  i think i hadn't really listened
before, or i had listened and never got it.


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if amy and emily appeared at the march this weekend, that means they probably flew to washington d.c. from chicago.


the last time they performed at a march in washington d.c. was when they appeared at the gay and lesbian march just after clinton was elected. to get to that show, they also flew out from chicago.


how odd.


-scott


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the song in question was "land of canaan" and it was great!!


the whole concert was fantastic.  i posted my review on the tour =
sections of
both the official bbs and the vortex for anyone interested in reading =
it.


i am so sad that it is over, but thankful for the wonderful time.  and =
i am
so glad that i finally got to talk to emily!
:)
mi rinda


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just a couple of things about what i remember from
last night.  it was great that they played such a good
mix of old and new stuff!  i think it was pretty
interesting to hear the new songs without so much of
the production that you hear on the album.


as for the set list, i don't remember what #14 was,
but it was an amy song and it wasn't dairy queen
because they didn't play it at all last night.


basically the concert rocked and made me smile all
night long!


lisa


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> 1. fill it up again
> 2. perfect world
> 3. least complicated
> 4. jonas and ezekiel
> 5. power of two
> 6. heartache for everyone
> 7. woodsong
> 8. cordova (this was such a gem.)
> 9. collecting you (so was this one...my favorite
>  emily song of the
> evenng.)
> 10.shame on you
> 11.watershed
> 12.yield
> 13.let it be me
> 14.?
> 15.all that we let in
> 16.thin line (love that song.)
> 17.get out the map
> 18.go  (totally rocked.)
> 19.closer to fine
>
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> 20. dairy queen  ( i think they moved this one
>    upto number 14.
> because they played               tether here.)
> 21.galileo
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the last time i protested, i believe in spring of 2000, against wto and imf
(it was a while ago, but i think it was for these issues)......the indigo
girls performed two or three songs.....


still it is a coincidence that they do chicago dc......


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well, i finally found a computer i could use. my monitor is shot and i haven't replaced it yet. i'm not going to buy a new one, but i've been too busy to look for a cheap used one.
anyway, i am still speechless after saturday's chicago concert. first of all, my mom was able to get better tickets on the morning of the general sale than my brother got for me at the beginning of the "pre-sale." so she generously let me sit in row w on the main floor just a few rows behind greg and deb (fun to finally meet you in person, deb!). at first maddi (my cousin) didn't want to change seats with my sister who was next to me in w, but finally my sister said she would just go up to the balcony and make maddi come down. that was good because....they played "everything in its own time"!!!!!!
i was getting really nervous and bummed that they wouldn't play it. but i had binoculars and as soon as i saw sully give emily her classical guitar, i knew they were going to play it. maddi still did not know about the request. as the first notes started, i looked at her and watched her slowly begin to smile as she realized..."they're playing my song!" i let her enjoy it for a while but then in the middle of it i had to tell her i had requested it for her. what an incredible emotion! i could barely contain myself! they got my notes! they played my request! and their performance of it was truly magical and show-stopping. you could have heard a pin drop. when emily hit the long high note, my soul just flew upwards! they are the best performers in the universe! i'm still riding the high from that night. wow.
so...what a weekend: two fantastic ig concerts, one great cubs game (with my mom, maddi and my niece sydney) and then a janis ian concert at the old town school of folk music! a friend had an extra ticket at the last minute, so i went hardly knowing what to expect. i had only heard "at 17." well, she puts on an excellent show. not only is she a great guitarist, but she is super eloquent and tells great stories.
ok, back to reality... a ton of grading and lesson planning! now you students know why teachers don't always get your tests and papers back to you within a few days!
thanks for reading.
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had tix for chicago shows but ended up in hospital instead.
did anyone happen to boot these and would be willing to share?
thanks
pooh


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if anyone's interested, c-span has archived the march on their site.


http://www.c-span.org/videoarchives.asp?z1=&popupmenu_name=domestic/social&catcodepairs=issue,dos;


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  chickenman, for sure.  first time i heard it was at a songwriter's showcase at
the roxy which amy hosted -- it was one of the very first atlanta performances
by shawn mullins.  i was in the balcony with a friend of mine and i remember
falling down laughing saying, "did she just sing 'dead dog on the highway'?"
much later, after it made onto an album and they performed it live with a band
at chastain with amy wearing that sgt. pepper jacket and john lennon glasses, i
was dumbfounded by the power of it.


  absolutely had a bug up my ass over "you were only joking, brother" for quite
a while.  when i finally decided i was just being an idiot, it turned into a
sentimental favorite.


  i really expected to not like fugitive because the lyrics were posted on the
list long before i heard it live and it seemed like it was specifically
anti-list, but when i finally heard it live at one of those writers-in-the-round
shows at eddie's attic, i was just mesmerized by the conviction with which she
sang it.


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hi everyone,
it has ended up i have an extra ticket to tonight's show at the carpenter
center. my friend is not able to get away from work to come :(
if anyone is interested please e-mail me or contact me on my cell phone
757-871-9675 please leave a message, i will return your call.
the ticket is on amy side of course and only asking what was paid, which is
40.00 (that is with ticket master charges) seat is located in orch row l seats
9,11,13,15 there are 3 of us girls coming from williamsburg, va. would be very
happy to have one you of you guys join us.
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i was in the second row of the vip section and got plenty of photos of
ig onstage.  i will be posting them within the next couple of days ...
stay tuned!


if anyone is interested in purchasing a "wax bush" t-shirt like the one
emily wore, go to:  http://www.waxbush2004.com/


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that's interesting. why would fugitive seem like it had anything to do
with this list?


on tue, 27 apr 2004, ron mcbay wrote:
>   i really expected to not like fugitive because the lyrics were
> posted on the list long before i heard it live and it seemed like it
> was specifically anti-list, but when i finally heard it live at one of
> those writers-in-the-round shows at eddie's attic, i was just
> mesmerized by the conviction with which she sang it.


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here are three photos from backstage at the march ... my friend was
trying to be discreet so the photos aren't great.


http://www.ofoto.com/i.jsp?c=3djtk30hf.5unrkmy7&x=3d1&y=3d-ddxusk=20


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what's the password?


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here are three photos from backstage at the march ... my friend was
trying to be discreet so the photos aren't great.


http://www.ofoto.com/i.jsp?c=jtk30hf.5unrkmy7&x=1&y=-ddxusk


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at 09:10 am 4/27/04 -0500, andrea crain wrote:
>that's interesting. why would fugitive seem like it had anything to do
>with this list?
>
>on tue, 27 apr 2004, ron mcbay wrote:
> >   i really expected to not like fugitive because the lyrics were
> > posted on the list long before i heard it live and it seemed like it
> > was specifically anti-list, but when i finally heard it live at one of
> > those writers-in-the-round shows at eddie's attic, i was just
> > mesmerized by the conviction with which she sang it.


...because when amy wrote it it was pre internet in every home and i dont
think they had any idea of how people from say, england, and boston would
know their setlists for the tours. they were also worried (rightfully so-
in some cases) that their personal lives were being discussed, but a listee
who was on the list asked them the question directly at a news conference
in amherst and amy said not at all.


ike r.


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what a weird show.  if you were there, you know
exactly what i'm saying.  they played in a
high-school auditorium.  maybe 1000 seats?  300
seats were reserved by 'patrons' and 'sponsors'
of the charlottesville free clinic - for which
this show was a benefit concert.  this
essentially filled the first 7 rows or so with
people who were in most cases, not fans.  lots of
straight, older couples.  people danced for no
songs.  people stood for no songs.  not even ctf.
no singing along on po2.  it was crazy.


shawn mullins was the opener.  he was really
great.  i like his other songs so much better
than the one they played on the radio.  but then,
talking in songs is not something i've ever much
enjoyed... throwback to diana ross in "ain't no
mountain high enough" - anyhow...  i digress...


it was so quiet between songs, that the girls
kept asking, "y'all okay out there?" - which
admittedly, made them chattier than usual,
because it was like they had to fill the silence.
my favorite between song banter was when they
were saying that they had played a frat party in
charlottesville once, which was like a rite of
passage (no relation to album of the same name),
and then they were telling about playing some
sort of 'menses' ritual thing at a georgia tech
frat, and how weird that was, and when they got
there, they realized they were playing because it
was a ritual that focused on women, which had led
them to select ig.  anyhow - it was pretty funny,
and then in the midst of laughter, emily said,
"we could've been a frat band", and amy, "think
how different the world would be, " and emily,
"frats are people too."


amy talked about coyotes around her house in ga,
but said they were across the river, so it was
okay, but maybe not so okay for the chicken farm
that was also across the river.  emily commented
a lot about the dc march and about protecting a
woman's right to choose and how important the
upcoming election was, and how it was so great to
be there with all generations of women, lots o'
lesbians and lots of kids, and yadda yadda yadda
- dead silence from the first 7 rows and lots of
cheers from the back section of the crowd...


interesting moment - in shame on you, amy sang
her big coming-out line differently.  "beautiful
ladies walk right by you know you never know what
to say."  now - i really took offense at the
changing of the wording, and the less than
enthusiastic emphasis that it was given compared
to every other time i've heard her sing it, which
is a lot.  it seemed to me, that it was a
knee-jerk reaction to the different crowd that
was there, and not wanting to freak them out by
singing an obvious i'm a lesbian line.  my
partner thinks i'm reading too much into it.  but
why have we never heard her sing it like that
before?  has anyone heard this wording before?
we'll see tonight if she sings it the same way.
maybe it's a new thing and i *am* reading too
much into it.  thoughts anyone?  i hate to think
that with all amy outspokenly stands for, that
all of a sudden when it gets personal and she
really has to expose herself to those who might
not tolerate diversity, she shrinks from it.
especially after talking about how kerry isn't
radical enough.... but again, i digress...


shawn mullins came out and did the stipe part in
kid fears and it really made the song.  i usually
cringe when they play this - to me, it's so long
and slow and boring - i know, a lot of people
love it, but then i'm a chickenman lover, so we
can agree to disagree... but shawn was great at
the part and the three part harmony especially at
the very end was absolutely blow-me-away
fantastic.


other ramblings.  they said that they didn't
really remember the last time they were in
charlottesville, and someone screamed out "'92!"
- which is maybe also why the crowd wasn't the
usual crowd.  i live in richmond, and though they
rarely come to my city, tonight excluded, they
come to dc and norfolk pretty frequently, and
then there's the traveling and all.  this bunch,
well, it was obvious that there were a lot of
seemingly die-hard fans but who might not have
seen them since '92.  like everybody screaming
when emily said her "every 5 days or so" instead
of 'years' in watershed, which, i mean, is no
surprise to most of us, but this group went crazy
when she did that last night.  like i said -
weird night.


all said, the girls put on a fantastic show as
usual under very difficult circumstances.  i
found myself wanting to yell between songs, "it's
okay - you sound great" or "everything's okay -
you're doing fine" or some such rot, because they
just seemed bewildered and like fish out of water
in some ways.  but, they pulled through and
survived the night.  but tonight, well, let's
just hope the crowd is different.


oh - everybody yelling out requests, and i
yelled, "whatever's next on the set list!" and
nobody laughed or anything.  i mean, come on -
that's funny!


rock on...


tara


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well im not quite sure why them being straight couples has anything to do
with the mood of the show.  older - i can see a reference to that - but them
being straight?  so what.


ive been to tons of ig shows where the whole audience barely says a peep or
hardly ever moves.  matter of fact - at the second ig show at radio city
last month - i sat the entire time - didnt even stand for galileo.  and it
was nice.  it was the first time i totally took in all the music and the
sights - it was sweet and i enjoyed myself far more than i had at previous
ig shows.


glad you got to see them near where you live though - thats always great
when they come to your hometown or real closeby.


g.

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> what a weird show.  if you were there, you know
> exactly what i'm saying.  they played in a
> high-school auditorium.  maybe 1000 seats?  300
> seats were reserved by 'patrons' and 'sponsors'
> of the charlottesville free clinic - for which
> this show was a benefit concert.  this
> essentially filled the first 7 rows or so with
> people who were in most cases, not fans.  lots of
> straight, older couples.  people danced for no
> songs.  people stood for no songs.  not even ctf.
>  no singing along on po2.  it was crazy.
>
> shawn mullins was the opener.  he was really
> great.  i like his other songs so much better
> than the one they played on the radio.  but then,
> talking in songs is not something i've ever much
> enjoyed... throwback to diana ross in "ain't no
> mountain high enough" - anyhow...  i digress...
>
> it was so quiet between songs, that the girls
> kept asking, "y'all okay out there?" - which
> admittedly, made them chattier than usual,
> because it was like they had to fill the silence.
>  my favorite between song banter was when they
> were saying that they had played a frat party in
> charlottesville once, which was like a rite of
> passage (no relation to album of the same name),
> and then they were telling about playing some
> sort of 'menses' ritual thing at a georgia tech
> frat, and how weird that was, and when they got
> there, they realized they were playing because it
> was a ritual that focused on women, which had led
> them to select ig.  anyhow - it was pretty funny,
> and then in the midst of laughter, emily said,
> "we could've been a frat band", and amy, "think
> how different the world would be, " and emily,
> "frats are people too."
>
> amy talked about coyotes around her house in ga,
> but said they were across the river, so it was
> okay, but maybe not so okay for the chicken farm
> that was also across the river.  emily commented
> a lot about the dc march and about protecting a
> woman's right to choose and how important the
> upcoming election was, and how it was so great to
> be there with all generations of women, lots o'
> lesbians and lots of kids, and yadda yadda yadda
> - dead silence from the first 7 rows and lots of
> cheers from the back section of the crowd...
>
> interesting moment - in shame on you, amy sang
> her big coming-out line differently.  "beautiful
> ladies walk right by you know you never know what
> to say."  now - i really took offense at the
> changing of the wording, and the less than
> enthusiastic emphasis that it was given compared
> to every other time i've heard her sing it, which
> is a lot.  it seemed to me, that it was a
> knee-jerk reaction to the different crowd that
> was there, and not wanting to freak them out by
> singing an obvious i'm a lesbian line.  my
> partner thinks i'm reading too much into it.  but
> why have we never heard her sing it like that
> before?  has anyone heard this wording before?
> we'll see tonight if she sings it the same way.
> maybe it's a new thing and i *am* reading too
> much into it.  thoughts anyone?  i hate to think
> that with all amy outspokenly stands for, that
> all of a sudden when it gets personal and she
> really has to expose herself to those who might
> not tolerate diversity, she shrinks from it.
> especially after talking about how kerry isn't
> radical enough.... but again, i digress...
>
> shawn mullins came out and did the stipe part in
> kid fears and it really made the song.  i usually
> cringe when they play this - to me, it's so long
> and slow and boring - i know, a lot of people
> love it, but then i'm a chickenman lover, so we
> can agree to disagree... but shawn was great at
> the part and the three part harmony especially at
> the very end was absolutely blow-me-away
> fantastic.
>
> other ramblings.  they said that they didn't
> really remember the last time they were in
> charlottesville, and someone screamed out "'92!"
> - which is maybe also why the crowd wasn't the
> usual crowd.  i live in richmond, and though they
> rarely come to my city, tonight excluded, they
> come to dc and norfolk pretty frequently, and
> then there's the traveling and all.  this bunch,
> well, it was obvious that there were a lot of
> seemingly die-hard fans but who might not have
> seen them since '92.  like everybody screaming
> when emily said her "every 5 days or so" instead
> of 'years' in watershed, which, i mean, is no
> surprise to most of us, but this group went crazy
> when she did that last night.  like i said -
> weird night.
>
> all said, the girls put on a fantastic show as
> usual under very difficult circumstances.  i
> found myself wanting to yell between songs, "it's
> okay - you sound great" or "everything's okay -
> you're doing fine" or some such rot, because they
> just seemed bewildered and like fish out of water
> in some ways.  but, they pulled through and
> survived the night.  but tonight, well, let's
> just hope the crowd is different.
>
> oh - everybody yelling out requests, and i
> yelled, "whatever's next on the set list!" and
> nobody laughed or anything.  i mean, come on -
> that's funny!
>
> rock on...
>
> tara
>
>
>
>
>
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i think i'd have to say nashville.  during the rites tour, i was bummed that
they played it every night.  the following year, a friend got me to really
listen to it.  i still love it to this day.


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sure, i see straight people all the time at ig
shows too, but not in such a high concentration
and all sitting together in the front 7 rows.
with white hair.


and the quiet thing - that surprises me about
your tons of shows.  i've been to tons too, but
i've never been to one as quiet as last night.
thank goodness it's the exception and not the
rule.  maybe it's a regional thing.


--- len and ginny weller
<tworetrievers@comcast.net> wrote:
> well im not quite sure why them being straight
> couples has anything to do
> with the mood of the show.  older - i can see a
> reference to that - but them
> being straight?  so what.
>
> ive been to tons of ig shows where the whole
> audience barely says a peep or
> hardly ever moves.

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for years jordan and i got seats in the balcony when ig plays there so he
could see. being 7 years old when he saw his 1st concert i wanted him to be
able to see without people standing in front of him.


it's been the best of both worlds...... being able to sit if i wanted to
experience every bit of the audio-visual treat that is an ig concert, or
getting up, dancing and singing with the rest of the jumping crowd below.
but ginny, i agree. a sit down ig is a pleasant experience too. i'm sure the
girls have played quiet crowds many times and they have drawn the audience
in and won them over because they are so talented.


this year is the first year we got seats in front of the stage.... 8th row!
he's 14 now and almost past me in height. we will definitely be standing,
dancing and singing the whole time this year!
l.


tara said:
"ive been to tons of ig shows where the whole audience barely says a peep or
hardly ever moves.  matter of fact - at the second ig show at radio city
last month - i sat the entire time - didn't even stand for galileo.  and it
was nice.  it was the first time i totally took in all the music and the
sights - it was sweet and i enjoyed myself far more than i had at previous
ig shows."


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forgot to mention (duh) i'm talking about the mann music center in philly.
we'll be rocking out on june 18th! hope to see some listees there!
l.


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i know that there are a lot of active list members who love getting up, shaking
their booties, and singing at the top of their lungs at indigo girls concerts,
and i say go for it!  as for me, i've found that as i've gotten older, i enjoy
being able to lean back in my seat and soak in the music and the whole ambiance
of a live concert setting.  thankfully, for the most part, i have been able to
do that while my dancing sisters and brothers find places to express their
exuberance other than directly in front of me.


i think that when amy & emily have a really responsive crowd, like they are used
to these days, they don't work as hard on stage 'cause they know we'll love
just about anything they do.  while i can appreciate the relief that must give
them on a hard touring schedule, i also sometimes feel a little bit cheated as
an audience member.  i want them to work for my attention and to work for that
connection with the crowd every time i see them.  when that happens, i feel
like i got a real performance for my $30-$75 ticket.  frankly, those shows have
been a minority in my indigo girls concert attending experience.


i should write some sort of warm and fuzzy, pithy conclusion, but that's always
been my weak point.  just ask my composition teachers.


anna


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hey kids,


just a quick question about the march this past weekend... what
song(s) did the girls play?


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they played one song:  "go."


xoxo


karen :-)


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ig setlist:


go.


yep, that's it!


-bon


on wed, 28 apr 2004, sherlyn koo wrote:


> hey kids,
>
> just a quick question about the march this past weekend... what
> song(s) did the girls play?
>
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at 07:35 pm 4/27/04 -0400, anna creech wrote:
>i know that there are a lot of active list members who love getting up,
>shaking
>their booties, and singing at the top of their lungs at indigo girls concerts,
>and i say go for it!  as for me, i've found that as i've gotten older, i enjoy
>being able to lean back in my seat and soak in the music and the whole
>ambiance
>of a live concert setting.  thankfully, for the most part, i have been able to
>do that while my dancing sisters and brothers find places to express their
>exuberance other than directly in front of me.
>
>i think that when amy & emily have a really responsive crowd, like they
>are used
>to these days, they don't work as hard on stage 'cause they know we'll love
>just about anything they do.  while i can appreciate the relief that must give
>them on a hard touring schedule, i also sometimes feel a little bit cheated as
>an audience member.  i want them to work for my attention and to work for that
>connection with the crowd every time i see them.  when that happens, i feel
>like i got a real performance for my $30-$75 ticket.  frankly, those shows
>have
>been a minority in my indigo girls concert attending experience.


anna - i still owe you the atwli live ep - did you already get one?


i dunno - i think when you are right up against the stage and they have a
bunch of diehards who they see - and they definitely see the regulars (ok,
folks, i saw everyone in my five minutes singing on stage in 97, what a
thrill - i just wish i had the voice to pull off stipe's voice in kid
fears...ok, there is no way it'd happen - but as an rem fan - no show feels
totally incredible unless it has kf played - sorta a soul of the concert
thing for me...


i like the shows where you know they are pulling everything out - not
sticking to setlists, where they are totally concentrated from everything
from the way the look at photographers, to their song selection - pulling
out songs that arent on every setlist. when i whent to unh 2000, i was in
front row and it was a horrid seat (way to the side) the show was good -
but short to me and it didn't seem like it had and grit to it - the next
night however, at colby, it was a religeous experience...


so yeah - i feel cheated when they do a quick run down of songs...


mike r.


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hmm...


for me the songs ig could play at every show i attend would be land of
canaan, chickenman, strange fire, closer to fine, and ozilline. actually,
even those would probably wear on me after a while, but they are my most
favorite ig songs and i haven't tired of them live yet (of course, i haven't
heard loc since 1994 and sf since 1990). i really would like them to mix up
the set lists even more than they do. i commend them for offering us a
different set each night, but i encourage the girls to make them even more
different.


there are several songs i would like if i never saw again live: shame on
you, get out the map, power of two, and kid fears. it's not that these are
bad songs, just i feel like i've seen them live enough times to last me and
now they are taking up slots in the set list i'd rather have devoted to
other songs.


lastly, my concert turn around was nashville. i never gave this one a second
thought until i saw them in buffalo in 1994 and amy told a story about
writing it while driving. it was great. come to think of it, that was one of
the best ig shows i've seen.


counting down until the nj show....
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hkf's


joss stone performed at the houston international
festival last weekend and she is sensational,
notwithstanding the fact she just turned 17.


i highly recommend listening to her charisma and
style!


peace,
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hkf's


got to see the girls in houston and austin a few weeks
ago (great shows, especially austin where the flying
saucer (ufo?) cruised right over the concert! :0)


their setlists got me thinking 'bout what might be on
the rarities album.  anyone know yet?


i missed the voting or whatever for the rarities
album, but among my guesses at this point are: mona
lisa's and madhatters, thin line, this train
(revised), it's up to you (hopefully)... and other
cover songs.


please share~
the chickenman lives!!@!


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my hope is that they stay away from the songs that already made it onto
their epic recordings.
thin line, and this train revisited, and do the
stuff that fans who don't have huge ig boot collections would love to
hear...i for one would like to hear lifeblood.....ever since they
included it in watershed documentary....i've
wanted to hear the whole thing.

barb


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i completely spaced yesterday *snickers* i did it again tonight but i'm not telling you what it involved because you might lock me up in a loony bin :)  i'll just announce this week's birthdays:

april 26
peachy706@aol.com (katie)


april 26 ('77)
ahill7o9@mwcgw.mwc.edu (anne hill)


april 27
tawaz@facstaff.eisc.edu (terese walz)
*shaming of the sun, april 29 1997


may 1 ('71)
markt@iinet.com.au (mark tovey)

have a happy happy, and stay safe!


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if you're not above fan-traded bootlegs, you can hear it on early recordings
vol. i (which anybody with a decent bootleg collection and dubbing chops to
match will be able to copy for you.) but dude, the bit that made it into
watershed is totally the best part of the song.


mandy,
hoping for a new recording of finlandia


> my hope is that they stay away from the songs that already made it onto
> their epic recordings.
> thin line, and this train revisited, and do the
> stuff that fans who don't have huge ig boot collections would love to
> hear...i for one would like to hear lifeblood.....ever since they
> included it in watershed documentary....i've
> wanted to hear the whole thing.
>
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> i missed the voting or whatever for the rarities
> album, but among my guesses at this point are: mona
> lisa's and madhatters, thin line, this train
> (revised), it's up to you (hopefully)... and other
> cover songs.


amy and emily mentioned on the direct tv concert taped at the late bottom line club in new york that they are compiling the request list the fans sent in and beginning to listen to the catalog of tapes.


they also mentioned that they have recordings of radio shows done "in other countries" so they could add something really obscure to the release.


-scott


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does anyone know where i can get the dvd that came out with some of the =
make yr life cds?  my town doesn't seem to have carried that.  thanks, =
barbara


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at 11:07 am 04/28/2004, barbara sanders wrote:
>does anyone know where i can get the dvd that came out with
>some of the make yr life cds?  my town doesn't seem to have
>carried that.


these are the stores that carry the bonus dvd:
         all tower records locations
         easy street - seattle, wa
         hoodlums music - tempe, az
         jackpot records - portland, or
         music millenium - portland, or
         park avenue cds - winter park, fl
         park avenue cds jr - orlando, fl
         plan 9 - richmond, va
         plan 9 - charlottesville, va
         plan 9 - harrisonburg, va
         plan 9 - williamsburg, va
         record exchange - boise, id
         twist and shout - denver, co


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there's a nice article in wednesday's atlanta journal-constitution on cordero
("'georgia rican' blends sounds") by teresa borden with a couple of photos of
ani cordero, who was born in atlanta but lived in ?nm? for a while and is now
based in ny.  (it might be online at www.ajc.com .)  it basically says that
although cordero's sound is a blend of indie rock and latin rock, the main
thrust behind the growth in latin music sales is mexican regional music (e.g.,
los tigres del norte) because it's a familiar sound from home for mexican
immigrants.


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here's the text of the article:


copyright 2004 the atlanta journal-constitution =20
the atlanta journal-constitution


april 28, 2004 wednesday home edition


section: atlanta & the world; pg. 6f


length: 621 words


headline: 'georgia rican' blends sounds;
atlanta-born cordero alters latin rock flavor


byline: teresa borden


source: ajc


body:
ani cordero's plaintive voice lilts above rock guitar chords as she
sings in spanish to the "virgencita" --- the virgin mary --- asking
protection for a true love.


atlanta-born cordero, who is of puerto rican descent, fronts the new
york-based band bearing her surname with which she is trying to take
latin music beyond the salsa sounds that have dominated the charts for
years.


cordero released its second full-length album, "somos cordero," on march
9. it is available at borders and other national music retailers.=20


just exactly where latin music is going is one of the hot debates in the
industry, a topic touched on at the billboard latin music conference in
miami this week. its televised awards ceremony takes place thursday
night.


"rock en espanol is pretty strong at this point among latin people,
especially the young people," said cordero, who is touring this spring
and opening some shows for the indigo girls. "the kind of music that
we're doing is fusing american indie rock and latin rock. there is
starting to be a crossover, especially in concerts like ours where the
music is both."


so don't compare cordero to shakira just because they both sing in
spanish. cordero says she appreciates the pop superstar for opening
listeners' ears to music in another language. but she sees her music as
more alternative, less glittery, more folky.


indeed, the new album features a trilogy of songs that chronicle the
lives of her great-grandparents and pay tribute to her
alzheimer's-afflicted grandmother.


but is this the new direction for a genre that, to anglo ears, last made
news with crossover acts like shakira, marc anthony and christina
aguilera?


hard to tell.


"the thing about latin rock is that it is such a huge genre," said
veronica gonzalez of elemental media, which publicizes cordero and the
legendary los angeles-based los lobos. "it can be any type of latin
music in english or spanish mixed with some element of rock or
alternative rock. so you can just imagine all the different
configurations of that you can have."


some say groups like cordero aren't likely to hit the mainstream anytime
soon, in part because what's gaining currency is mexican regional music.


"people can talk all they want to about latin rock," said leila cobo,
billboard magazine's miami/latin america bureau chief. "what sells is
another kind of music entirely."


whither latin music?


cobo said 58 percent of the latin music market consists of mexican
music.


and acts like the ranchero-sounding "los tigres del norte" sell because
they have an incredibly faithful following that doesn't abandon them for
the next new thing, cobo said. artists' careers in latin america last
decades. as their listeners cross the u.s.-mexico border, they buy the
music here. for them, the old standards are a way of hanging on to their
culture and their roots.


but young latin rock groups have one thing going for them, gonzalez said
--- a quality sound.


"the bands are gaining more success even without radio support because
they are just that good," gonzalez said. "many music critics have said
that some rock groups coming out of latin america are better than what's
coming out of the united states."


cordero says she isn't too worried about popularity just now. she's busy
gaining inspiration from fellow latino artists who, like her, straddle
the cultural divide.


she talks excitedly about how, during a years-ago conversation with
writer judith ortiz cofer, they connected over the difference between
puerto ricans from georgia and those from new york.


"i live in new york now but i am so not a 'new yorican,' " she said. "i
am this weird breed. i am a 'georgia rican.' so is she. she gets it."


graphic: photo: ani cordero, lead singer of the new york-based latin
rock band cordero, performs a recent concert in chicago as part of a
spring tour. the band released its second full-length album, "somos
cordero," last month./ aynsley floyd / special (teaser); photo: music
maker
with a little help from her friends the indigo girls, atlanta-born ani
cordero is taking latin music in new directions./ aynsley floyd /
special


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>my hope is that they stay away from the songs that already made it onto
>their epic recordings.
>thin line, and this train revisited, and do the
>stuff that fans who don't have huge ig boot collections would love to
>hear...i for one would like to hear lifeblood.....ever since they
>included it in watershed documentary....i've
>wanted to hear the whole thing.
>
that is exactly what i would want, barb. stuff that we cannot get on their
own commercially available recordings. i'd like to hear all of "ballad of
squeaky fromm(sp?)" and i have a song called "high horse" on a crappy boot
tape that i'd love a good version of. also, anything that happens to be
kicking around in their tape vaults.


cheers,
tom
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hey folks,


atwli is now listed on metacritic - this is a site which collates reviews
of movies, music etc from various places and then averages them out
somehow to come up with a "meta" rating.


go to:
http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/indigogirls/allthatweletin/
to have a look.  the site links to the other reviews when available too,
if you're interested in reading them...


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does anyone know anything about the 7/25  bellingham show?  that is a bit closer to home for me than the seattle pier.  the venue is wonderful,  and i am so excited that they are coming there, but the official site has no ticket buying info.  i'm going to contact the venue, just thought i'd check here first.


thanks,  jane

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date:         thu, 29 apr 2004 13:03:18 +1000
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hey folks,


here's the latest official mailer...


-sherlyn


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subject:        indigo girls - more july tour dates!


two more dates have been added to the indigo girls july tour!


here is the updated list:


07/09/2004 albuquerque zoo - albuquerque, new mexico
07/10/2004 city limits - tucson, arizona
07/11/2004 humphries by the bay - san diego, california
07/12/2004 humphries by the bay - san diego, california
07/14/2004 disney hall - los angeles, california
07/16/2004 villa montalvo center - saratoga, california
07/17/2004 greek theatre - berkeley, california
07/18/2004 portland zoo - portland, oregon
07/22/2004 britt festival - jacksonville, oregon
07/23/2004 the pier - seattle, washington
07/24/2004 the pier - seattle, washington
07/25/2004 mt. baker theatre - bellingham, washington
07/28/2004 botanic gardens - denver, colorado
07/29/2004 botanic gardens - denver, colorado
07/30/2004 mishawaka amphitheatre - bellevue, colorado
07/31/2004 chautauqua amphitheatre - chautauqua, colorado


for the latest in confirmed tour information:


http://www.indigogirls.com/tour.html


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it looks like it's a ticketmaster venue.


btw, i called the disney theater earlier today (in la), they are still
clueless, but i think the show was just confirmed this morning (it was in the la
times today).


:-) karen


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