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date:         tue, 1 jun 2004 09:02:27 -0400
reply-to:     hare@optonline.net
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lauren, re:

> the who are #1.  best rock drummer ever (keith moon.)  best rock bass
> guitarist ever (john entwistle).  best songwriter (pete
> townshend).  most dynamic
> frontman (roger daltrey).  most explosive live performer (pete
> townshend).extraordinary rhythm/power chord guitarist (pete
> townshend).  i never tire of
> listening to their music.  depth, intelligence, and power.  amy
> and emily are the
> only writers who come close.  but as a rock band, nothing can
> touch them.
> hell, i go to 40-50 live shows a year.  i like all sorts of
> different music.  that
> said, even what's left of the who (aka, the two) absolutely blow
> everyoneelse i've ever seen off of the stage.  (comments, jason?)

yes.  i agree.  :)  although i don't put them at #1 or #2 over or under ig, because i just can't compare them.  both are completely unbelievable artists and concerts for totally different reasons.

jason

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date:         tue, 1 jun 2004 13:20:25 -0400
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since i got my new card with the 6 cd player, i have been playing a lot of my cd's while driving. what i have been listening to most often recently includes:

ig-1200 curfews and assorted boots
mary lou lord-baby blue-her latest cd and it rocks!
texas-careful what you wish for or greatest hits-great band!
garbage-beautiful-i'm hooked on "breaking up the girl"!
dave alvin-king of california-great songwriter/new cd out 6/15!
kathleen edwards-failer-also hooked on "...radio won't like"!

thanks for asking and have a good spring and a great summer!

-scott

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date:         tue, 1 jun 2004 10:48:12 -0700
reply-to:     michael w cummins <me@michaelvox.com>
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subject:      directv bottom line show
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i'm taking a shot in the dark here.  i want to use the bottom line version
of free in you at my july wedding.  did anyone rip it from
tivo/replay/videotape to cd?  if so, i'd love a copy for which i'd send you
a blank or two.

hopeful,

michael.


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date:         tue, 1 jun 2004 13:07:43 -0500
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here's whats on my ipod at the moment. i have the first generation ~5gb o=
ne,=20
its constantly full, and i hate to take things off, but the igs atwli got=
the=20
boot a month ago for townes van zandt. its funny to see the catagory tags=
=20
that get pulled from the cd databases tom waits as alternative & punk alw=
ays=20
makes me laugh. my ipod is heavily slanted toward reggae, it probably wou=
ld=20
even out if i had a larger one. incidently i think the ipod might be one =
of=20
the best inventions of all time. its right up there with the wheel!!!!!=20
anyway here is my list. reallistically it doesn't crack the surface of my=
=20
musical interests but it keeps me entertained all day at work. cheers - t=
odd

african brothers=09want some freedom=09reggae
alabama thunder...=09  rise again=09rock
alabama thunder... =09staring at the divine=09rock
bad brains=09rock for light=09alternative & punk
barrington levy=09englishman & robin hood=09reggae
barry brown=09showcase: midnight rock at channel one=09reggae
black uhuru=09guess who's coming to dinner=09reggae
burning spear=09social living=09reggae
culture=09trod on=09reggae
dennis alcapone=09forever version=09reggae
dennis brown=09the golden years 1974 - 1976 =09reggae
dr. alimantado =09best dressed chicken in town=09reggae
firewater=09songs we should have written=09rock
flogging molly=09drunken lullabies=09alternative & punk
flogging molly=09swagger=09alternative & punk
fred locks=09black star liner=09reggae
glen brown & king tubby=09termination dub (1973-79)=09reggae
horace andy=09in the light/in the light dub=09reggae
horace andy=09dance hall style=09reggae
i roy=09don't check me with no lightweight stuff=09world
israel vibration=09the same song=09reggae
joe callicot=09ain't gonna lie to you=09blues
johnny osbourne=09truths and rights=09reggae
johnny osbourne=09fally lover/never stop fighting=09reggae
junior ross & the spear=09i can hear the children singing =09reggae
keith hudson=09pick a dub=09reggae
king stur-gav hifi=09sound system live & learn records presents a live se=
ssion=20
with king stur-gav hifi lee =09reggae
king stur gav hi-fi sound system=09stur gav toronto '98=09reggae
larry marshall=09presenting larry marshall=09reggae
lee perry=09arkology reel 3 dub adventurer=09reggae
lee perry=09arkology reel i dub organiser=09reggae
lee perry=09arkology reel ii: dub shepherd=09reggae
lone ranger=09on the other side of dub (studio one)=09reggae
love and happiness cultural mix=09reggae
luciano=09serve jah=09reggae
luciano=09sweep over my soul=09reggae
max romeo=09open the iron gate 1973-77=09reggae
me'shell ndegeocello=09cookie: the anthropological mixtape=09hip hop/rap
me'shell ndegeocello=09comfort woman=09alternative & punk
me'shell ndegeocello=09peace beyond passion=09jazz
me'shell ndegeocello=09bitter=09r&b
michelle malone=09homegrown=09rock
michelle malone=09stompin' ground=09rock
mighty diamonds=09right time=09reggae
morgan heritage=09family and friends, vol. 3 disc 1=09reggae
morgan heritage=09family and friends, vol. 3 disc 2=09reggae
nasio fontaine=09living in the positive=09reggae
niney and errol=09truth and rights observer style=09reggae
prince alla=09i can hear the children singing =09reggae
prince alla=09only love can conquer=09reggae
solomon burke=09don't give up on me=09r&b
sugar minott=09ghetto-ology + dub=09reggae
sylford walker/welton irie=09lambs bread international=09reggae
the congos=09heart of the congos=09reggae
the daktaris=09soul explosion=09afrobeat
the heptones=09on top=09reggae
the techniques=09run come celebrate=09reggae
the uniques=09watch this sound=09reggae
the wailing souls=09wild suspense=09reggae
tom waits=09the early years vol. 1=09alternative & punk
tom waits=09the early years vol.2=09alternative & punk
tom waits=09blue valentine=09       rock
tom waits=09nighthawks at the diner=09alternative & punk
tom waits=09franks wild years=09alternative & punk
tom waits=09swordfishtrombones=09rock
tom waits=09mule variations=09alternative & punk
tom waits=09closing time=09rock
tom waits=09foreign affairs=09alternative & punk
tom waits=09small change=09alternative & punk
tom waits=09the heart of saturday night=09rock
tom waits=09alice=09alternative & punk
tom waits=09blood money=09alternative & punk
tom waits=09the black rider=09rock
tom waits=09rain dogs=09alternative & punk
tom waits       heartattack and vine=09rock
tom waits=09bone machine=09alternative & punk
townes van zandt=09delta momma blues=09folk
townes van zandt=09at the cactus cafe - austin, tx 910216=09 folk
u roy=09niney the observor - microphone attack 1974-78=09reggae
u.brown=09from channel one 1979-80=09reggae
unsane=09lambhouse (the collection 1991-1998)=09metal
various=09afrobeat ...no go die=09afrobeat
various     fat possum records=09darker blues=09blues
various=09=09x-ray music - a blood and fire dub directory=09reggae
various=09dance hall good to we - 1982-1993=09reggae
various reggae hit the town 1968-1974=09reggae
various natty sings the hits 1975-1981=09reggae
various =09randy's - 17 north parade=09reggae
xterminator=09rough inna town=09reggae
yabby you=09jesus dread [1972-77]: chanting style=09reggae
yabby you=09jesus dread [1972-77]: conquering lion style=09reggae

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date:         tue, 1 jun 2004 13:22:14 -0500
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from:         todd green <tgreen@uab.edu>
subject:      re: directv bottom line show
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was this on the bonus dvd that came out with atwli? if so i can most like=
ly=20
rip the audio from that. i don't recall which songs from the bottom line =
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were on the dvd. anyone?

on tuesday 01 june 2004 12:48 pm, michael w cummins wrote:
> i'm taking a shot in the dark here.  i want to use the bottom line vers=
ion
> of free in you at my july wedding.  did anyone rip it from
> tivo/replay/videotape to cd?  if so, i'd love a copy for which i'd send=
you
> a blank or two.
>
> hopeful,
>
> michael.
>
>
>
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date:         tue, 1 jun 2004 14:21:29 -0500
reply-to:     barbara bordner <ritesofpassage9@webtv.net>
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dairy queen
fill it up again
perfect world
kid fears
galileo

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the setlist that barb posted is the setlist for the dvd (come on home is on there as well, by the way).

the direct tv included a few more songs.  i have the vhs at home and will need to watch it again to get the complete setlist, but i know that it includes all of the songs on the dvd plus tether, closer to fine, heartache for everyone, free in you...

michael!  wow!  congrats!  will i be seeing you at the bay area shows this summer?  :)  any other shows?

xox
karen


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date:         tue, 1 jun 2004 12:29:44 -0700
reply-to:     michael w cummins <me@michaelvox.com>
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hey karen, et al.

i actually have the directv show on my tivo right now, i just don't have the
wherewithall to convert it to cd for the wedding.  the studio version is
less appealing because of the drums and such.

my wedding is the day after the greek show, so for the first time since
1994, i'll miss the girls as they make a stop in the bay area.  you guys
will have to sing ghost twice as loudly on my behalf.

michael.


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> the setlist that barb posted is the setlist for the dvd (come on home is
on there as well, by the way).
>
> the direct tv included a few more songs.  i have the vhs at home and will
need to watch it again to get the complete setlist, but i know that it
includes all of the songs on the dvd plus tether, closer to fine, heartache
for everyone, free in you...
>
> michael!  wow!  congrats!  will i be seeing you at the bay area shows this
summer?  :)  any other shows?
>
> xox
> karen
>
>
> ***
> "some artists don't have anything else to say beyond their gut feeling
that war (or again, insert any political issue) is wrong or right, and some
of them do - amy ray of the indigo girls, for example, most certainly knows
more about media consolidation and the destruction of native lands than at
least 50% of our congressmen." -- "performing songwriter," march/april 2004
>
> "you can grow what you want, but one day it's gonna rise up, so plant what
you need to make a better stand..." -- amy ray
>
> http://www.indigogirls.com
> ***
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date:         tue, 1 jun 2004 15:52:02 -0400
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subject:      nigc tell the head haunchos at corporation for public
              broadcasting to stop playing politics with pbs programs.

i just took action on this issue and thought you might find it interesting too. it looks more and more like shows are going to become more conservative.

i like pbs now.let's keep it as is.


click on this url to take action now
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date:         tue, 1 jun 2004 16:56:55 -0400
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i have two extra tickets for indigo girls at britt fest on 22 july.  they are general admission, but if you look at the seating map, the ga/lawn area is in front of the reserved section, hence closer to the stage.

britt fest is in jacksonville, oregon, about 30 miles north of the california border.  the show is on the 22nd of july -- emily's birthday!

i paid $28 per ticket including a small service fee.  please email me if you are interested in one or both of them.

thanks!

xox
karen

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"you can grow what you want, but one day it's gonna rise up, so plant what you need to make a better stand..." -- amy ray

http://www.indigogirls.com
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subject:      sorry just checking

sorry just trying to set up my new e-mail.


michelle

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date:         wed, 2 jun 2004 17:02:31 -0400
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hi y'all,

i've got two tickets to the june 11 fleet boston pavilion show that i
can't use.

they are in section 3 (amy side), row cc (25th row), seats 26,27.  the
cost for the pair is $95.50 ($75.00 for the tickets plus the danged
$20.50 for the clear channel handling fee).

please contact me asap if you're interested.

peace,
meg
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meg@alumni.vanderbilt.edu

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subject:      off topic: please pray for my partner
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hello,

i know that this is not the place for this, but i just wanted to reach out to as many people as possible.  my partner, jodie, is in the hospital intensive care unit.  i took her to the emergency room early tuesday morning (2 a.m.) because she was having severe abdominal pain.  she said she thought she was dying.  she also said the pain was worse than when she was in labor with our son.  she was told that she had gall stones and would need to have her gall bladder removed.  the doctors also said that as a result, she has pancreatitis.  early this morning (around 1 a.m.) her heart was beating very, very fast and her blood pressure was very low.

she is in a lot of pain and is only being given a minimal amount of pain medication because if she gets too much medication, her body will not be able too fight this infection/inflammation itself.  she cannot have surgery to have her gall bladder removed until her pancreas is no longer inflamed and she is doing better.  she is very scared and not doing well.  please pray for jodie.  keep her in your thoughts.  if you would like to send anything or visit her she is at st. joseph's hospital (in baltimore, md) the intesive care unit is on the fourth floor and she is in room 7.  some good things she has going for her are that she is young (she just turned 29 in march) and she has never had a serious illness in the past.  i hope you are doing well.  thank you for your thoughts and prayers!

peace, melissa
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from:         juliana smith <monkeemaidjules@yahoo.com>
subject:      i need good book suggestions!!! <nigc> <nmc> <njlsc> this is
              jules, looking for help.
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              candace allen <sword_dancer3@hotmail.com>,
              callie <hundredpapes@hotmail.com>,
              cassidy <cassidy_fontana@hotmail.com>,
              faye chamberlaine <mars_fire_goddess@hotmail.com>,
              maudie engstrom <xashtrayheart@yahoo.com>,
              "shannon n. hackett" <snhackett@stgregorys.edu>,
              indigo-girls@yahoogroups.com, janna <janna_tracy@hotmail.com>,
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howdy  ya'll,

i realize the people i'm sending this to are ecclectic and sometimes unrelated but i love all of you for some reason or another and really need your help.  this summer i intend to finally really enjoy myself and indulge in being an english major by reading as many good books as possible.  problem is, being an english major means i know all about five hundred year old tomes about pioty and the truth behind chaucer but have no idea what out there is good *now*.  i've just finished the da vinci code and couldn't put it down so i know there's good stuff out there right now.

so if anyone has any suggestions whatsoever, any good book you've read in the past five years, please send me even just the title and/or author's name!  you don't have to make small talk, don't have to explain why you liked it (though i'd appreciate it) just gimme a boost!  i trust your judgement because i have something in common with each of you and therefore you're all innately cool.

ok, that's my plea, thanks!  peace and love ya'll.

~jules
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for what it's worth, i've had the same condition for about 3 years now.  in fact, i suffered through a pancreatitis flareup throughout the last ig concert i attended at suny buffalo 2 years ago.  i can certainly empathize with jodie's pain...

through a careful diet, i've been able to keep it in check, though i've had to give up a lot of things that i like, and all fast food.  i don't miss it...

my best wished to you and your partner.  i know it's tough to stand by helplessly while someone you love is in pain...

tim

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1.  the lovely bones
2.  five people you meet in heaven
3.  the bible code (scarry)

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      i'm totally in love with sherman alexie, although i've had time only to
read one of his books, "the lone ranger and tonto fistfight in heaven." it's
a collection of short stories, but they all kind of weave together and a lot
of the same characters weave in and out of the stories.
     i'm also participating (although not as much as i'd like) with a poetry
discussion group on yahoo that sherman is running, and i really liked the
first book he chose, called "echolocations," by diane thiel.
       i also have never been a huge sci-fi fan, but last summer, i read
"fahrenheit 451," and thought that was excellent!
deb (who has toooo many unread books on her to-do list)


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hello everyone,

thank you to everyone who wrote to me with your kind words and prayers.  it is comforting to know that so many people care.  thank you for keeping jodie and our family in your thoughts and prayers.

during the day, yesterday, she was very anxious, tired, uncomfortable, and said she wanted to leave the hospital and go home.  i know she justs wants to be out of pain and out of distress and feel better.  however, i know that she also knows she needs to stay in the hospital to get the best care and feel better.  i just told her she knows she has to get surgery and she can't get that if she's not in the hospital.  i think she was feeling very frustrated and just sick of 'fighting' this, she just wants it to be over.  she is so not herself.  it's very difficult for her.  and, it's also difficult to see her in so much pain and distress and know that i can't really 'do' anything about it.  but, i mean, the best is being done for her.  i just wish, like her, it would go quicker.  especially for her.  i don't like her to have to suffer so much.

yesterday, at around 9 p.m. she told me she had no pain whatsoever.  that was wonderful to hear.  a close friend of ours has been spending a lot of time with jodie, as well as her parents.  our friend is also a nurse/midwife in the hospital and has been very helpful.  she knows all the right questions to ask and is great with jodie.  she pushed the nurses to have her pain medication increased.  jodie really likes the medication because it is the only way she can sleep.  however, she has gotten very little sleep these past three nights.  she was given a new bed that she loves.  she said, "this bed rocks."  it has an air mattress and is adjustable in several ways.

unfortunately, she is having other difficulties, however.  her blood vessels are "leaking," as i've been told, which means the fluid in her vessels is 'leaking' out and into other parts of her body, mostly her abdomen.  her abdomen is very distended and she says she feels very bloated.  also, her kidneys are not functioning properly.  she is being introvenously given about 500 ml of liquids an hour.  she is only outputting less than 200 ml of urine an hour, however.  that's because of her 'leaky' vessels, and the fluid just lurking around in her abdomen instead of being in her system and being turned into urine.

last night, at around 2 a.m. she was having a lot of difficulty breathing.  she was also becoming confused due to the low oxygenation level of her blood.  she has been put on a 'bypass' breathing machine.  she is not intubated.  but, she has a mask strapped to her face.  she is still breathing on her own, but the machine helps give her full strong breaths and keeps her blood better oxygenated.  the name of the machine is "bipap."  if her oxygen levels in her blood continue to decrease, she will have to be intubated.  hopefully, that won't happen.  she also is now facing developing ards, acute respiratory distress syndrome, which is very serious.  i'm not sure if she definitely 'has it' now or if she may get it.  i'm thinking it's the first.  according to one info source i checked, 40% of people with ards die.  i really don't like that statistic.  the nurse just kept saying she's young and she will get over this 'hump.'

ards, the low blood pressure, and the leaky blood vessels are all a part of pancreatitis.  not all people get everything, but these things can happen.  the nurse on duty last night also said that this is one of those things where things often get worse before they get better.  i hope she has been through the worse and the better is soon to come!!

and, for those of you who don't know jodie well, i just thought i'd give you some extra information about her.  she is a mother and teacher.  she is very smart, funny, and kind.  she grew up in church, taught sunday school, was a peer mentor in high school, taught history lessons to eighth graders in high school.  now she teaches 8th grade english and social studies.  her students absolutely love her.  she is so 'cool.'  she is a great teacher.  she is a great friend.  she is a great mother.  she is a great daughter.  and, she is a great partner.  thank you so much for keeping her in your thoughts and prayers!

peace, melissa
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hello everyone,
i'm a lurker from wayyy back...thought i'd pass along some info i saw on the olivia web site adversising autographed sleeves on the new ig cd.
as some of you may know, the girls were invited on board one of the cruise ships in april to perform down in key west!!  i was one of the fortunate ones to attend!  would highly recommend an olivia cruise for anyone interested in fun on the seas....
so check it out:   www.olivia.com
search the shop olivia section.  cd is $17.99 (ouch)
enjoy,
stacy

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hello everyone,
as everyone or maybe not everyone may know - i often post concerts that i
believe might be of interest here on the list.  if you live anywhere near
wilmington de - i have a concert for you!!!

it's catie curtis, deb talan with girlyman.
tuesday, june 8th
8pm
grace church
900 washington st.
wilmington, de 19801
tickets $25 adv/ $30 door

for directions and tickets go to www.listeningpost.us

for information on the artists - www.catiecurtis.com; www.girlyman.com;
www.debtalan.com

this is one of those concerts you don't want to miss.  if you have never
heard of these artists and if you like the indigo girls you will like these
artists.  check out their web pages for they all have music samples.

later,
mary


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hi jules,

good luck with the summer reading. there's lots of great stuff out there. my
tastes lean toward fantasy and sci-fi, so that's what the majority of my
list is comprised of.

1) the sandman library by neil gaiman. this is the most revolutionary comic
book series there ever was. it tranmutates comics into literature. it is the
story of the incarnation of dream and other members of his family, and it is
the story of the effects that choice and change have on us all. it's ten
volumes. i'd suggest starting with volume 1: preludes and nocturnes, or
season of mists (which i think is volume 4), which is the story of dream's
descent into hell to right a wrong he committed against a former lover. i
really can't praise sandman highly enough. if i could only take one book
with me on a desert island, it would be the sandman library (ok, that's 10
books, but i'd make the case that it's all one story).

2) the sparrow by mary doria russell. the best sci-fi i have ever read. i
wept for almost the entirety of the last 30 pages. it's the story of the
first jesuit mission to another planet and how--despite the best
intentions--it goes horribly wrong. beautiful and chilling. read it before
the movie comes out in a year or so.

3) the grass dancer by susan power. the past and present weaves together in
a brilliant story of native american life. when i finished it the first
time, i just started reading it again. it was that good.

4) a game of thrones by george r. r. martin. first part in an ongoing series
about a kingdom sort of like medieval england that is tearing itself apart
with internal politics while winter is approaching. in this fanstasy world,
winter can last for years. very well-written. each chapter is from the point
of view of a different character.

5) the poisonwood bible by barbara kingsolver. any of her books is great,
but i think this is her best. tells the story of a family headed by an
authoritarian preacher that goes on a mission to africa and how that effects
their lives. it's really amazing.

ok. hope that helps and no one else was bored.

cheers,
tom
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hey gang - i'm supposed to play at an upcoming
corporate function, and i'd like some suggestions
for dixie chicks songs, but i'm not that familiar
with them - can somebody tell me what the big
radio hits are, so i can download a few?  i am
looking for upbeat and something that doesn't
have lyrics that would be inappropriate for a
corporate crowd.... i think goodbye earl is out
for instance, which is a shame, because that's
the only one i really know....  anyhow, it has to
be a 'radio' song that people would know too.

reply to me, not the whole list - thanks!!!

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hey everyone,

well after four days of seriously fighting this, jodie finally seems to be showing some improvement.  i spoke with the doctor monitoring her last night and she said lots of things are looking better.  her white blood cell count has come down, which means her body isn't fighting as hard against the infection, so it must be getting better.  also her heart rate has decreased from the 140's and 150's to the 120's and 130's.  today i saw the machine say 113 for a brief moment.  it was the lowest i've seen her heartrate since she's been in the hospital.  her heart has been beating so fast because her body is working so hard to survive and fight against this.  it has to work so hard because her body is so sick.  but, since her heart rate is slowing and getting closer to normal, it shows that her body isn't having to work so hard against this.  another sign that she is improving.  her urine output is now "good" according to her doctor.  before they kept saying it was poor.  they have
  also decreased the amount of liquids they are giving her.  before they were giving her about 500 ml an hour, now it's only 70 ml an hour.  these are all good things. :)  also, her enzyme levels from her pancreas are much better.  they are no longer completely out of wack.  they, too, are looking good and closer to the normal range.

finally, her breathing is better.  she is still on an oxygen mask.  first she had a full face mask, then after about 12 hours they switched her to just a nose mask.  then yesterday (about 24 more hours later) they switched her back to a full face mask, that covers her nose and mouth.  finally, her blood gas levels, the amount of oxygen (and not carbon dioxide) are increasing.  the doctor said that since she is being given so much medicine (pain relievers, sedatives, and other stuff) it is hard for her to take full, deep, effective breaths on her own.  without the mask, her breathing is very poor.  but, with the mask, her breathing is finally more effective.  i was very happy to hear that so much has improved.  finally!  the days and days of worsening and thing after thing being added to the list of parts of her that are not working properly was getting really scary.  and just watching them stay the same and not improving for 24, 48, 72 hours was getting hard to bear.  it's al
l just a wait and see kind of thing.  they are doing all they can for her and giving her everything she needs to improve and get through this.  the last and most important part is for her body to heal itself.  so, it looks like her pancreas is on its way, as well as her kidneys.  hopefully, with the pancreatitis getting better, her distressed breathing (which got that way as a result of the pancreatitis) will continue to improve, too.  i'm hoping to get more good news today when i talk to the doctor again.  or at least no news that anything has gotten worse.

well, thank you to everyone who has emailed me.  thank you to everyone who is out there praying and keeping us in mind.  jodie's parents returned home (an hour and a half away) on friday and have eli with him.  they'll bring him back on sunday.  i hope things continue to move in the right direction.  thank you, again.

peace, melissa
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hi everyone....
i am looking for just one boston ticket for next friday.....so if anyone has
any extras or is willing to break up a pair....let me know...

thanks
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hello all,

i have 2 tickets for the sunday, june 27 chastain show for sale. orchestra row y seats 40 & 42. the tickets were $47.55 a piece for a total of $95.10. i'll sell them both for $80..

e-mail if you're interested.

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happy sunday everyone!

i've been on a non-fiction reading spree lately.  here's my list:

"the day the world came to town:  9/11 in gander, newfoundland"   by jim
defede
    now, i have stayed away from books about september 11th because for me
it was hard enough to live through once, without having to read about it
again, but this book caught my eye in b&n.  we'd just returned from a short
trip to nova scotia and were so taken by the kindness and generosity of the
people that we met there.  i wanted to see how this little town handled
receiving over 6000 people on the planes on that day.  what an amazing read
this book is!  again the people of eastern canada blew me away with their
kindness to strangers.  it's a heartwarming book that reaffirms that there
are good people out there especially when something devastating has
happened.

"return of the osprey:  a season of flight & wonder" by david gessner
    this book was a gift from my mom, which makes it required reading for
me.  i've ended up reading a couple of times now...david gessner is a writer
who lives on cape cod (my original home).  when i was growing up we never
saw osprey.  after reading this book i understood why.  there were very few,
if any, on the cape at that time.  they had almost been wiped out as a
result of ddt.  this book is like a journal kept by mr. gessner over the
course of a year watching 4 osprey nests and the activities therein.  it's a
great glimpse into the lives of the osprey, but also wildlife on the cape
(yes there is still some...lots of coyotes, and last week i followed a fox
down the street, deer, tourists, yadda, yadda, yadda...)

"the essential 55:  an award-winning educator's rules for discovering the
successful student in every child"  by ron clark
    a book that all teachers and anyone who works with children wishes that
every parent or anyone who has responsibility for raising children would
read.  i don't necessarily agree with all of his 55 "rules" but, having
teenagers myself, and having worked in the schools, there are some great
ideas here on common sense behavior and common courtesy.

and for my fiction suggestion...the clan of the cave bear series by jean
auel.

peace & happy reading!
jen

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i'd love to take my camera in to the hyannis and meadowbrook shows, (i =
tried last year in hyannis, but they sent me back to my car....grrr).  =
my problem is that i have a terrible problem of looking guilty if i'm =
trying to do something i'm not supposed to do.  any suggestions?  i've =
got a canon powershot a70.

peace,
jen

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them to know how to teach the science of reading.  in order to make sure =
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school; milwaukee; march 30, 2000

heeheehee...federal cufflink.....what is that anyway?.......heeheehee

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i haven't been listening to ig as much lately as i've got a new music
obsession, but it's time to brush up on ig as they're coming to town next
week!!!!!i'm sure after seeing amy again the girls will be in my car cd
player daily again.

the cash brothers -  tops my daily category. i can't get enough of their
harmonies and blending of voices.  the more i listen the better i like them.
yum!  the lyrics are pretty good too.  lisalisaa, if you like wilco and
steve earle you'll probably like these guys.  they're along the same type of
music

skydiggers - peter cash's (of the cash brothers) old band.  great canehdian
folk rock ( i guess that might be their "label", also alt country? maybe)

jay farrar - amazon.com said that if i like the cash brothers i'd like jay
farrar, so i bought "sebastopol" to see if they were right.  they were.

michael franti - i just love michael franti  his live shows are amazing.
the love and energy is almost touchable at his shows.  anyone else feel
that?  his music is amazing.  his energy is amazing. his poetry is amazing.
i just love michael franti!

robert mirabal - traditional native flute player, native rock & roller.
"alternative" and "music from the painted caves" are great cd's

tragically hip - my favorite song by the hip is "new orleans is sinking".
it's got a great guitar hook to it.

sleepy labeef - rockabilly at its best.  this is a big man with a huge deep
voice and a great guitar (and he drives a big ole white caddie) "don't mess
with my toot-toot!

lordes perez - when i'm in the mood for sultry

los lonely boys - just love these guys..."vamonos!"

peace,
jen

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date:         sun, 6 jun 2004 19:55:54 -0400
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at 04:21 pm 6/5/04 -0400, sasha friedman wrote:
>hi everyone....
>i am looking for just one boston ticket for next friday.....so if anyone has
>any extras or is willing to break up a pair....let me know...


was on ticketmaster within the past five minutes and pulled 7th row
singles...dunno if i am definitely going or not...hopefully...

mike r.

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date:         mon, 7 jun 2004 02:28:24 -0400
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hi all,

i have 2 tickets available for indigo girls on saturday june 12, 2004 @ 8:00
pm.  with ticket-bastard fees, i paid 107.00 for the pair.  ($47.25 each +
6.25 (per ticket!) "convenience charge")

section h
row 7
seats 25 and 26

awesome seats!

please contact me if you are interested.  i'd rather sell the pair, however
if you are interested in a single ticket, let me know and we might be able
to work something out.

thanks!
jenn

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date:         mon, 7 jun 2004 09:12:18 -0400
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so, i don't know if anyone else saw this, but i just flipped on the tv to the today show and they were in the middle of some segment in which jann wenner was talking about the progression of rock and roll--i didn't get anymore about the context.  they showed clips from all of the top rock stars of all time--hendrix, the doors, beatles, janis etc. etc. etc.  they were scrolling through the decades and moved onto michael jackson, madonna and then lilith fair in which they mentioned no names but showed ig playing closer to fine with lots of other women on the stage with them.  then they rolled on into the 90's and 2000's with grunge artists and so on.  i have to say i was pleased but a bit surprised that ig and closer to fine defined the progress of "feminist" icons progressing from madonna's arrival on the scene to the huge success of lilith fair.  i know, and you all know, that ig deserves to be recognized among the greats, but to see them smack dab in the middle of this long
list of greats still took me by surprise...i don't know why....
anyhow, here's hoping some of you saw it too.  lee

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date:         mon, 7 jun 2004 09:15:48 -0400
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i didn't see it, but i think it's a hoot that ig was shown at all during an
interview with jann wenner!  anyone else find that ironic...doncha think?


peace,
jen

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lee,

thank you for the heads up!!!  we get the today show on a 1 hour  delay.  so
i had plenty of time to get settled in to watch.  it was  great to see amy and
emily!!

and, yes, i think it is pretty funny that jan wenner was commenting.

sally

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date:         mon, 7 jun 2004 10:49:00 -0500
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okay i went to www.amazon.com  to see the release date for emily's book,
wish list usually
has it listed, so i looked there.....low and behold! there's no date
mentiioned so i checked the product details and didn't find anything.

does anyone  have any info? i'd like to have
an idea of how much longer we all have to wait.

i hope the wait is over soon......

barb

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october 8th. it's listed under product details after the name of the publisher.

mandy


> okay i went to www.amazon.com  to see the release date for emily's book,
> wish list usually
> has it listed, so i looked there.....low and behold! there's no date
> mentiioned so i checked the product details and didn't find anything.
>
> does anyone  have any info? i'd like to have
> an idea of how much longer we all have to wait.
>
> i hope the wait is over soon......
>
> barb
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date:         mon, 7 jun 2004 10:57:23 -0500
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oh shit!!!! october 8th?!!! man!!! that's
a bitch!!!!

thanks anyway though. i may as well just assume i'll get my pre-order
for christmas.

barb

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date:         mon, 7 jun 2004 17:37:43 -0500
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hey everyone,

thank you for continuing to keep jodie and her family in your thoughts and prayers.  she still is in the icu and will probably be for a while yet.  right now, i'm not exactly sure of the latest findings with jodie.  she just went in for her third ct scan when i left to pick up eli from daycare.  they are checking to see if she has any bleeding in her abdomen.  they also want to see what her organs look like.

she is not in so much pain anymore, thank goodness.  yesterday was her most alert and oriented yet.  she was making little jokes, saying funny things.  she was complaining a little and being a little 'bossy' about this or that.  i can't even remember the specifics, but i just remember thinking, if she's able to be funny and complain, then she must be feeling better.  she was taken off of the bipap breathing machine which was helping to fully inflate her lungs when she breathed in.  it wasn't breathing for her, but made her breathing easier.  she hates the machine, though.  so, we're both glad when she's not on it.  she has gone back on it at night, though.  when she's sleeping it's harder for her to continue to take deep, even breaths.

yesterday morning they started giving her lasix, which is a drug to help her pee out the excess fluids in her body.  over the three or four days they were giving her liquids, they gave her a total of 10 liters!  the doctor said that since she can tolerate having liquid taken out of her system that's definitely better than needing extra fluids.  she continues to have good urine output.  she still has a lot of anxiety about things.  she was nervous going in to her ct scan.  i realize most people would.  but, jodie is the kind of person who freaks out about nothing and overreacts about the littlest thing.  so, for her, these things are even worse than most people would think.  and she says that laying flat is painful for her, so she also doesn't like the scan because of that.
they have been giving her haldol for her anxiety, so i'm glad they're aware and doing something to help her.  her nurse was also talking with her today about not being scared.  she said it was okay to be afraid, but there wasn't anything that jodie could do about getting the ct scan.  it will still happen, so she just needs to get through it.  the fact that she's had it before makes me think it would be no problem for her.  but, maybe for her she just thinks about how much she didn't like the last two.

jodie's dad found out that gall stones run on his side of the family.  my mother told me that her mother also had them and said they were worse than childbirth.  my grandmother had 9 kids, too!  well, i have been sleeping at home again.  i've been getting a lot of sleep.  it's hard to be at the hospital all the time.  i'm keeping eli with me now, too.  he was really starting to miss his mommies.  he's sick of jodie being in the hospital.  he knows she's really sick, but he just wants it to be over already.  his mommies are right there with him.

keep praying for jodie and let's hope she is through the worst.  thank you for your kindness and caring.

peace, melissa
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date:         mon, 7 jun 2004 21:24:30 -0500
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biblical views on homosexuality and how they
can be applied today?

i just get so tired of closed-minded people quoting scripture or just
plain saying,"it's in
the bible...homosexuality is wrong." i'm floored
by that....try to say anything to those people
and they give ya (what i call) the broken record approach to
homosexuality.

i'd like something to stand on so i can hold my own.

thanks all!

barb

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howdy and happy birthday to the following listees!


june 7
shulman@scf.usc.edu ( paula shulman )
in the cookies of life, friends are the chocolate chips"  unknown
author

june 7
britta graeber (brgr@stud.uni-sb.de)

june 8 ('65)
atlmouse@aol.com (robin)
"you dry your tears, don't be thinking gray is here to stay"
"i can't do everything but i would do anything for you"
"when you learn to love yourself, you will dissolve all the stones
that are cast"

june 9 ('69)
jncalif@aol.com (julie)
"i say love will come to you"
"and there's always retrospect to light a clearer path"
"my place is of the sun and this place is of the dark"

june 10 ('76)
corinne@utah-inter.net (corinne simpson)
"would you trade your words for freedom"
"they say that it's never too late, but you don't, you don't get any
younger"

june 10
cheryl@discover-net.net (cheryl thiede)
"maybe all that we need is to meet in the middle of impossibility,
standing at opposite poles, equal partners in a mystery."

june 10 (=9270)
unclwil@midwest.net (michelle pennington)
if i have a care in the world, i have a gift to bring.
es, hammer and a nail

june 13 ('68)
melissa.marquis@fmr.com (melissa marquis)
"now i walk in beauty
beauty is before me
beauty is behind me
above and below me"

june 13
lschreihart@juno.com (lisa schreihart)
^^^^^woo hoo!!!!!!^^^^

hey lisa - if only i had looked ahead, i woulda said something last weekend :p

in any case, have a great day celebrating all!

love and devotion,
audra
bge :)

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you are creative... those people were tenacious last year!  one guy told me
i could bring an empty water bottle in if i drank it all or dumped it.  so,
i emptied my brand new bottle of poland springs onto the ground.  when i got
to the next guy at the gate, presumably the manager, he wouldn't let me
bring it in empty!  he was a real jerk about it too.  i can't even tell you
how outrageous the concession prices were on top of it ... there ought to be
a law!

good luck!

jenn in rhode island

at 07:30 am 6/7/2004 -0400, carolyn westmark wrote:
well, you can use the trick i used to get the long lens for my digicam into
the women's world cup matches at gillette stadium...put the lens in a bag
and position  a tampon so that it's visibly protruding from the bag.  they
ain't touchin' that with a ten foot pole!  ;-)  (and if they start to get
nosy, just remark casually, "oh yeah...that's where i put the used
ones....")


at 12:29 pm 06/07/04 joni  :o) wrote:

great minds think alike.....

one time (at band camp), i put a telephoto slr lens in a bag at the bottom,
and when this nice woman grabbed the bottom of the bag, squeezed and said
"what is that?"  i sheepishly whispered "...pads..."  she said "oh, ok, go
ahead.."


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    from: jen cattin

    i'd love to take my camera in to the hyannis and meadowbrook shows, (i
tried last year in hyannis, but they sent me back to my car....grrr).

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