lifeblood: listlogs: 2004-08b

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date:         mon, 9 aug 2004 10:30:23 +1000
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hey kids,

here's the latest official mailer...

cheers,
sherlyn

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date:   sun 8-aug-2004 7:43pm
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subject:        indigo girls participate in labor day rally!

amy and emily will be participating in a free labor day rally for reinvest in america: put america back to work! in charleston virginia on september 6, 2004.

for more information on this event:

http://www.reinvest-in-america.org

and for the latest official indigo girls tour information:

http://www.indigogirls.com/tour.html

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date:         mon, 9 aug 2004 15:35:40 +1000
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hey kids,

a little late, but here's a review of the mid-july shows at the pier, from
the seattle post-intellegencer.

if you want to read it online it's at:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/pop/183524_indigo26q.html

cheers,
sherlyn

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monday, july 26, 2004

indigo girls exude warmth, passion
duo delights crowd with lively, intimate performance

by bill white
special to the post-intelligencer

on seattle's hottest day of the year, the indigo girls kept the fires burning
long after the sun had gone down.

music review
indigo girls

with kim richey

where: pier 62/63

when: friday night

it was nearing dusk as the folk-rock duo took the pier 62/63 stage on friday
night. a crescent moon lit the darkening sky above the bay. backlit by rainbow
lighting, amy ray and emily saliers opened their 105-minute concert with "fill
it up again," the first of seven songs performed from their new album, "all
that we let in."

stripped down to their acoustic essentials, the new songs were much more alive
than in their recorded versions.

a harmonica solo from ray enhanced "dairy queen," and saliers' vocal on "come
on over," unencumbered by the recorded arrangement, was passionately intimate.

the only song that did not quite work in an acoustic setting was "heartache for
everyone," a rocking torch song that needed a full-blown band to contain its
rush of energy.

with most of the material composed within traditional folk and rock forms, the
mood of each song was quickly established. there was the classic rock
progression of "go," strummed with such determination by ray that she broke a
string, the mountain ballad "ozilline," expertly picked on banjo and mandolin,
and the anthemic singalong of "the power of two."

although the master of ceremonies joked that there were only seven males in the
audience, the crowd was, in fact, quite diverse.

the music of the indigo girls appeals to most everyone who still believes that
a song should mean something.

the title song of "all that we let in," beautifully sung and fingerpicked by
saliers, who t turned 41 the day before the show, is a perfect example of how
they express both personal and social concerns. the line "beaten into
submission in the name of the free" was loudly applauded by the crowd, which
was even more responsive to the closing sentiment, "the greatest gift in life
is to know love."

the main part of the concert ended with a rousing version of the classic "close
to fine," from their self-titled 1989 release.

kim richey, who had earlier warmed up the crowd with a spirited set of country
folk, joined in the chorus, as did the winner of a raffle that had raised more
than $1,500 for home alive, a local grass-roots organization that helps prevent
violence against women.

the two-song encore began with a solo ray performing a snappy "driver
education," and saliers returning for a searing version of "galileo," from
1992's "rites of passage."

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date:         mon, 9 aug 2004 15:48:40 +1000
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hey folks,

here's another slightly old article, this one from the denver post - it's
online at
http://www.denverpost.com/stories/0,1413,36~28704~2286843,00.html
if you want to read it there...

cheers,
sherlyn

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article published: friday, july 23, 2004
music

colorado keeps pulling indigo girls back

by ricardo baca
denver post pop music critic

ap
indigo girls amy ray, left, and emily saliers have spoken out for countless
causes during their 20 years together.

it makes sense that the indigo girls would sell out two dates at the denver
botanic gardens. the plush, grassy bowl is the ideal spot for their brand of
sensible and sometimes political pop-folk.

and of course they'd do well in boulder, what with the city's left-leaning,
birkenstock-shod populace.

but the poudre valley above fort collins?

the indigo girls will play four sold-out colorado dates in the next eight days,
including a july 30 date at northern colorado's super-scenic mishawaka
amphitheatre. and while almost all artists worth half their publicity budget
will tell you they "absolutely love (your city here)," emily saliers is truly
closer to fine when she's in colorado.

"we're a word-of-mouth, grass-roots band," saliers said last week, "but i can't
explain why it's so strong for us in certain markets like denver, san
francisco, seattle or boston."

given its past and present political climate, colorado seems a particularly
curious retreat for the indigo girls. the group consists of saliers and her
songwriting partner for more than 20 years, amy ray. openly lesbian and
politically active, they vehemently oppose the quest by u.s. sen. wayne allard
and rep. marilyn musgrave, colorado republicans, to amend the u.s. constitution
with an anti-gay-marriage measure. (last week the bill died in the senate; the
house of representatives plans to take up musgrave's version in september.)

"i always find that wherever there's that strong political force, there's a
subversive political force to counteract it," saliers said. "people are
fighting gay marriage left and right. but in colorado, on top of the
conservatives, you also have these huge enclaves of liberals and
environmentalists who want to save the landscape there and protect civil
rights."

talking with saliers in an election year is exciting. the indigo girls have
rallied for native american rights and spoken out on countless other causes
throughout the last two decades. now they're focusing on the november election.

"i'm so miserable with this administration and the havoc that it's wreaked on
everyone," saliers said. she and ray try their best to support issues rather
than candidates in their live shows, which are often incendiary with their own
brand of subtle politicking, but one man saliers can stand up and openly
respect is filmmaker michael moore.

"it blew me away," she said of moore's documentary "fahrenheit 9/11." "moore
can go over the top, and he can be manipulative. but this was really well done,
and i was moved by it - especially the story of the woman who lost her son in
the war. i went with a bunch of friends, and we all cried. i couldn't really
talk after the film for about 30 minutes afterward."

in their music, the indigo girls can be politically charged or romantically
inclined - sometimes concurrently. it's not difficult to tell the difference
between an amy song and an emily song. but some fans will be surprised to know
that each song is developed through cooperation and collaboration.

"i write my songs and amy writes hers, and when we're writing we are really
different personalities and people with different sensibilities, and that comes
through," said saliers. "the common ground happens in the arrangement, which we
do together."

listen to saliers talk and it's obvious the two have fallen into a comfortable
routine. and they would have to: "all that we let in," their 10th album, is an
obvious continuation of what ray and saliers have done their entire careers.

"i'm a little bit more of a dreamer, and amy's more of a brass-tacks kind of
person," saliers said. "she archives stuff and is always taking pictures and
filming and keeping that stuff.

"i don't do that at all, and i'm grateful that she does because she ends up
digging up a lot of cool stuff," she said. "plus she was always driven about
what path we should take early on. she was always into the post-punk world and
didn't want us to be stigmatized as a folk band. and making sure that we had a
little bit of a broader scope was good."

when not on the road, saliers spends a lot of time at watershed, her decatur,
ga., restaurant. ray runs daemon records, the not-for-profit label she started
to distribute and market indie voices. ray released her first solo record,
"stag," on daemon in 2001 and is working on the follow-up. saliers is moving at
her own pace but sees a solo record in her future.

"it's taken a long time for me to get to the point of even talking about it,"
saliers said. "but i'm excited because it'll be more rhythm oriented. i like
soul music, african american music and hip-hop, and there will be more of an
emphasis on groove."

emily saliers likes hip-hop?

"sure, i like old-school stuff like public enemy and queen latifah, and i like
the newer stuff like murphy lee and jay-z, too."

pop music critic ricardo baca can be reached at 303-820-1394 or
rbaca@denverpost.com .

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date:         mon, 9 aug 2004 00:18:41 -0700
reply-to:     "janice l. monforton" <jmonfort@csci.clark.edu>
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i'm back from a fabulous week of homo-ing in olympia. of course there's
lots i could talk about, but i'll stick to all (or most) things indigo. my
gf and i weren't anywhere near being first in line, but we were right up
on the stage, in front of emily, since we opted to stand. the girls played
a short set, about 45 minutes, but it was a good one. it included fill it
up, dairy queen, go (more on this in a minute), galileo (emily said "sing
it queers" when it was time to sing the chorus), heartache (someone asked
what it was about and amy laughed and wouldn't really answer), ctf (with
raffle to sing with them, of course it wasn't the gf or i who won). i'm
blanking on what else there was - it's been a really long week. so when
amy was intro-ing go, she said it started out being about this grandmother
who was an activist and all of a sudden this girl on the side of the stage
yells to them it's her great grandmother and they'd all met before and
they start talking. eventually amy gets back to telling about how she was
able to finish the song when they had the high school tour. they didn't
bring sulli with them in order to save some money, so they were doing
their own tuning and emily says you just have to line up the lights (on
the tuner) and amy says they should be able to project the tuner onto a
big screen so the whole audience can play along. it was really neat to see
on the sides of the stage a lot of musicians from the queercore bands
singing along to ctf at the end. it's a nice contrast to some of the
comments on the homo-a-gogo message board about how some people were
totally angry that ig were the special guests rather than, say, le tigre
(they would have been cool to see too, but i'll take ig anyday). can't
think of much else to say at the moment about the ig set other than that,
as bon and i would say, emily looked tasty. i'm much more an amy person,
but emily was having an on night too in my opinion. oh, that reminds me,
at one point someone in the crowd up and yells out "emily, you're skinny!"
which i thought was weird, though i suppose well intentioned. emily
replied "it's all relative" which i thought was a good response. anyways,
it was a great set and the crowd was very loud and enthusiastic in a good
way. but wait, there's more. as i had secretly hoped, amy came out at the
end of the butchies' set to play laramie and lucy stoners with them. they
said this was the high point of the butchies' careers since they had ig
opening for them, which i guess is kind of funny that ig was in the middle
of the program that night and not the end, but who cares. the 2 songs with
amy and the butchies were great. i just wish there could have been
separate sets for amy and the butchies and then just the butchies, just so
i could have maximum time from both of them :) a girl can dream. and just
to indulge in one off topic story, and i'll make it about phranc so that
it's still about folk music, due to a change in schedule for today, my gf
and i totally missed phranc's set this afternoon. i'm bummed cuz i've
never seen her live. however, she was at the craft fair yesterday where i
had my knitted wares for sale and she stopped at my booth and was super
personable and nice and complimented my stuff. it was just such a contrast
to some of the other musicians who had been around all week and i'd see
them on the sidewalk or in a restaurant, but just not really interacting
with the festival like phranc was. she just really impressed me in a sort
of intangible way. can't think of much else to say. must sleep.
-sam

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date:         mon, 9 aug 2004 10:17:20 -0400
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folks -

given i'm less than two weeks from a committment ceremony (and next year we
can get recognized in maine as a domestic partnership, after living
together for a yr, tho i dont think any hetero couple needs to fulfill that
requirement, sorry political tangent)

umm...doesnt a bachelor party very closely mirror a typical night at a
trendy gay night club? what to do with the hetero sexual (i'm in maine - i
havent metrosexual and i dont think any member of the opposite sex would
come, tho it isnt for being separatist, it's just a logistical thing...)

so - ohh great vast knowledgable fellow queers, besides having amy coming
to do a private show, or having a queer eye makeover (hey, the $$ they
spend on decorating is sweet.)

what am i to do? drinks and chatting with friends - bring the guys to the
(kinda lame) only queer bar in town or skip this bastion of cultural norms
in relation to western marriage rites...

<snip>

oops - that last thought was waaaay too inappropriate

igc - they're gay, right???

mike r.

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date:         mon, 9 aug 2004 09:09:27 -0500
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> given i'm less than two weeks from a committment ceremony
<snip>
> what am i to do? drinks and chatting with friends - bring the guys to the
> (kinda lame) only queer bar in town or skip this bastion of cultural norms
> in relation to western marriage rites...
<snip>

tradition, schmadition. whatever sounds like fun to you - it's your party!

> igc - they're gay, right???

yes, but not with each other! ;)

-andrea

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date:         mon, 9 aug 2004 14:57:03 edt
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hey folks..sparkie here after 9 months with no job...may have one in austin...

i used to live in texas..only been to austin 1 time...can someone let me know
what it is like as far as homes and schools and music scene....

hospitals???? my wfie is a nurse....thanks folks...

sparkie smiling for 1st time in long time

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date:         tue, 10 aug 2004 00:07:14 -0400
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hey all - i want to start off by giving a shout out to a listee who hadn't made it on the list before my announcement went out:

august 3 (=9267)
chuck@mongiovi.net (chuck mongiovi)
(long-time obsessed indigo fan since i first saw them open up for neil young on the "indigo girls" tour)

you're on there now buddy :) hope it was happy!

as for the ones this week...

august 10, 1969. :)
foxmuldr@indy.net (rick hodgin)

august 10 ('78)
s-laufer@nwu.edu (sari)

august 10 ('75)
reposa@scf-fs.usc.edu (jeanette)
"so what is love then, is it dictated or chosen? does it sing like
the hymns of 1000 years or is it just pop emotion? and if it was ever
here and it left does it mean it never was true?"

august 11
chris talbot <talbotc@umich.edu>

august 12
bf2brland@insight.rr.com barb!
(happy anniversary barb & twink!)

august 14th
kelly (kasmall@custom.net)

have a kick ass time celebrating, my fellow leos! *grins* much love!

as always,
audra
bge

p.s.

if you are not on the list, and would like to be, feel free to
email me privately.  i will put you on the list asap.  some people have
just included their email address and birthday, others include their real
name, and lots include quotes.  any form is acceptable.  similarly, if you
are on the list and would like to add/change/delete your entry, do so
privately and i will update.  do not forget to include your b-day if you
are in the add/change/delete category...i really don't want to sift
through hundreds of entries to find yours.  thanks :)

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date:         mon, 9 aug 2004 21:25:18 -0700
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>
> what am i to do? drinks and chatting with friends - bring the guys to
> the
> (kinda lame) only queer bar in town or skip this bastion of cultural
> norms
> in relation to western marriage rites...

well, it kind of depends. in the str8 world, the bachelor party is
meant as one "final night of debauchery" before being eternally tied to
just one woman for the rest of one's life. hence the emphasis on
alcohol, hiring a stripper/hooker, etc.

if that's the same kind of thing you feel the need to experience, i'd
suggest modeling it along those lines.

otherwise, there's lots of ways to celebrate the "end of freedom", so
to speak. what about going and doing things you like but you know your
partner absolutely can't stand doing? or getting together with only
friends of yours who are single and have them roast you with long lists
of all the things they'll still be able to do after you're attached
(and presumably you won't be able to...)?

or camp it up -- take all your gay buddies to a strip bar (typical str8
bachelor party event).  (hey!  it'd freak out the normal clients...)
or get a bunch of movies themed around bachelor parties and invent
drinking games to go with them.  (bachelor party and very bad things
both spring to mind)  hold a mock funeral for your status as a single.

just a few random suggestions...

graham ames
hippybear@bigfoot.com

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date:         wed, 11 aug 2004 09:12:56 -0400
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> > what am i to do? drinks and chatting with friends - bring the
> guys to
> > the
> > (kinda lame) only queer bar in town or skip this bastion of cultural
> > norms
> > in relation to western marriage rites...

forget about the norms...think outside the box! i just had my bachelor party. i told my friends that i didn't want to do the vegas/new orleans/stripper/drunk thing. i told them i wanted to rent a cabin on a lake, rent a few boats, and hang out on the water all day. everybody had a great time. we also hung out on the beach, barbecued and played poker. not a wild time, but it's not about what you should do, it's about what you want to do.

congrats. :)

jason

hey gang - i've got a year's worth of the
advocate, 26 issues from march 2000 through april
2001. anybody want them? they include the
millenium march special edition with me and
george michael on the cover.

some of the covers are: hilary swank, brooke
shields, n'sync, dean cain, kd, mary cheney,
queer as folk, hillary clinton, bill clinton,
judy davis, and jason bateman.

i'll throw in a copy of us featuring 'will and
grace'.

all i ask is media mail shipping which should
only be a few dollars.

let me know if someone is interested. otherwise,
they're just going to the recycle bin.

tara

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date:         thu, 12 aug 2004 00:21:19 edt
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important legislation for all women.

please send  this to everyone in your address book. if there was ever a time
when our voices  and choices should be heard, this is one of those times. if
you are receiving  this it's because i think you will take the 30 seconds to go
and vote on this  issue...and send it on to others you know who will do the
same.

there's a bill called the breast cancer patient protection act which will
require insurance companies to cover a minimum 48-hour hospital stay for
patients
undergoing a mastectomy. it's about eliminating the "drive-through
mastectomy" where women are forced to go home hours after surgery against
the wishes of their doctor; still groggy from anesthesia and sometimes with
drainage tubes
still attached.

lifetime television has put this bill on their web page with a petition
drive
to show your support. last year over half the house signed on.

please!!!! sign the petition by clicking  on the web site below and help
women
living with breast cancer get the care  they need and deserve!! there is no
cost or monetary pledge involved. you  need not give more than your name and
zip
code number.

this takes about 2 seconds. please pass this on. thanks

http://www.lifetimetv.com/reallife/bc/pledges/bc_mast_pledge.html

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date:         thu, 12 aug 2004 11:34:17 -0500
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hey everyone,

jodie had her third surgery on tuesday from 5 to 10 p.m. to remove the infectious fluid and dead tissue from behind/around her kidneys. they are irrigating each area with a saline/ betadine solution to keep any infection from returning. she has two new incisions on each of her sides that are more or less horizontal, slightly higher in the back and lower in the front, following the natural crease between her butt and back. she has been on ample pain meds and remains intubated from surgery. hopefully within the next day or two she will be able to be extubated, when she isn't so constantly drowsy from the pain meds and is able to breathe effectively when she is asleep.

we have become quite patient in waiting for jodie to recover and be back to normal. aah, the true meaning of the word 'patient' becomes so clear... for those who still don't have the address, here it is again: jodie virago, m/s icu, room 20, st. joseph medical center, 7601 osler dr., towson, md 21204.

thank you for your continued support and caring.

peace, melissa
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date:         thu, 12 aug 2004 13:57:57 -0700
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fox news says:

mcgreevey discloses homosexuality, announces
resignation plans

trenton, n.j. - gov. james e. mcgreevey (search)
announced thursday that he is a gay man who had an
adulterous relationship and, therefore, will resign
his office on nov. 15.

"at a point in every person's life, one has to look
into the mirror of a person's soul. ... my truth is
that i am a gay american," mcgreevey said during a
press conference, with his wife by his side and his
parents behind him.

mcgreevey disclosed that he had "shamefully engaged"
in an affair with a man behind his wife's back but did
not disclose who was involved. he said it was "wrong,
foolish, inexcusable and for this i ask the
forgiveness and the embrace of my wife."

mcgreevey, a democrat and former suburban mayor, took
office 2 1/2 years ago, and despite inheriting a $5
billion budget deficit, he steadfastly refused to
boost income taxes for most new jerseyans, instead
raising taxes on millionaires, casinos and cigarettes.

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date:         thu, 12 aug 2004 17:43:51 edt
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the same goes ditto for me... i've got stacks and stacks of old advocate mags
that i need to get rid of. if anyone else is interested, e-mail me and i can
get a list of covers typed up. i've also got a bunch of old x-files videos i
need to find a good home for. since i've been buying the dvd sets, i want to
get rid of the tapes... i have most of the vhs tapes that were commercially
released (minus the collector cards which i'm keeping...) but if anyone's
interested in either, let me know, and the same applies, just the price of media mail
postage.
lisa

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date:         thu, 12 aug 2004 20:59:16 -0500
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhgggggggg!!!

i saw this article on www. msnbc.com
__________________________________
court annuls san francisco gay marriages

california justices say mayor overstepped authority

ben margot / ap

the associated press

san francisco - the california supreme court voided the nearly 4,000
same-sex marriages sanctioned in san francisco this year and ruled
unanimously thursday that the mayor overstepped his authority by issuing
marriage licenses to gay and lesbian couples.

the court said the city violated the law when it issued the
certificates, because both legislation and a voter-approved measure
defined marriage as a union between a man and woman.

the justices separately decided with a 5-2 vote to nullify the marriages
that were performed from feb. 12 to march 11, when the court halted the
weddings. their legality, justice joyce kennard wrote, must wait until
courts resolve the constitutionality of state laws that restrict
marriages to opposite-sex couples.
=a0news analysis

tom curry: guide to the same-sex marriage debate
couples see 'terrible blow'

the same-sex marriages had virtually no legal value, but they carried
powerful symbolism. their nullification dismayed del martin and phyllis
lyon, the first same-sex couple to receive a marriage license in san
francisco.

"del is 83 years old, and i am 79," lyon said. "after being together for
more than 50 years, it is a terrible blow to have the rights and
protections of marriage taken away from us. at our age, we do not have
the luxury of time."

=95gay marriage
the rise of same-sex weddings has fueled a political and social debate
across the country. .

the court did not resolve whether the california constitution would
permit a same-sex marriage, ruling instead on the narrow issue of
whether local officials could bypass state judicial and legislative
branches.

chief justice ronald george noted that thursday's ruling did not address
"the substantive legal rights of same sex couples. in actuality, the
legal issue before us implicates the interest of all individuals in
ensuring that public officials execute their official duties in a manner
that respects the limits of the authorities granted to them as
officeholders."

the justices agreed to resolve the legality of the weddings sanctioned
by mayor
gavin newsom after emergency petitions were filed by a conservative
group and the state's top law enforcement official, attorney general
bill lockyer.
issue in presidential campaign
san francisco's gay weddings, which followed a landmark ruling by
massachusetts' top court allowing gay marriage, prompted president bush
to push for changing the u.s. constitution to ban same-sex marriage, an
effort that has become campaign fodder this election year.

the california court sided with lockyer's arguments, ruling that
newsom's actions would foment legal anarchy and sanction local officials
to legislate state law from city halls or county government centers.

when the justices agreed in march to hear the case, they said they would
decide only whether newsom overstepped his mayoral powers for now but
would entertain a constitutional challenge - that gays should be treated
the same as heterosexual couples under the california constitution - if
such a lawsuit worked its way to the justices through the lower courts.

gay and lesbian couples immediately acted on that invitation, suing in
san francisco county superior court alleging laws barring them from
marrying were discriminatory. newsom filed a similar lawsuit.

the consolidated cases are unlikely to reach the california supreme
court for at least a year or more. california lawmakers have refused to
take a position on the matter and have left the politically volatile
issue to the supreme court.

live vote

do you favor a constitutional amendment to limit marriage to a man and a
woman?

yes 48%

no 52%

newsom argued to the justices in may that the ability of same-sex
couples to marry was a "fundamental right" that compelled him to act.
newsom authorized the marriages by citing the california constitution's
ban against discrimination and claimed that he was duty-bound to follow
this higher authority rather than state laws banning gay marriage.

the arizona-based christian law firm alliance defense fund, a plaintiff
in one of two cases the justices decided thursday, had told the justices
that newsom's "act of disobedience" could lead other local officials to
sanction "polygamists."

newsom's defiance of state law created huge lines at city hall by gays
and lesbians waiting to be married and ignited a firestorm engulfing
statehouses and ballot boxes nationwide.

missouri voters this month endorsed a state constitutional amendment
banning same-sex marriage, a move designed to prevent that state's
judiciary from agreeing with the arguments newsom is making in
california.

a state constitutional challenge by gay and lesbians in massachusetts
prompted the state's highest court to endorse the same-sex marriages
that began there in may. a judge in washington state this month also
ruled in favor of same-sex marriage, pending a resolution from that
state's top court.

louisiana residents are to vote on the same issue sept. 18. then
arkansas, georgia, kentucky, mississippi, montana, oklahoma, oregon and
utah are to vote nov. 2. initiatives are pending in michigan, north
dakota and ohio.
four states - alaska, hawaii, nebraska and nevada - already have similar
amendments in their constitutions.

. n.j. governor, saying he's gay, resigns. bush, kerry skirmish over
nuclear waste. nuclear waste site is election land mine. cheney rips
call for 'more sensitive' war. kerry takes edge over bush in fla.. court
voids s.f. gay marriages. evangelicals await invitation to convention.
white house derby: going toe to toe. can republicans hold on to the
senate?. wp: anti-kerry=a0ads=a0air on black stations. politics section
front
=a0
=95n.j. governor is=a0gay, to resign=95evacuation order for
charley=95court voids s.f. gay marriages

=a92003 msnbc.com
msnbc

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date:         sat, 14 aug 2004 11:45:08 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@pixelopolis.com>
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subject:      fwd: new tour dates!
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hey kids,

here's the latest official mailer...

cheers,
sherlyn

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from: "indigo girls" <news@indigogirls.com>
date: fri, 13 aug 2004 14:28:41 -0400
subject: new tour dates!
>=a0here are the latest upcoming dates for indigo girls:
>=a0
>=a009/06/2004 the downtown riverfront - charleston, =a0west virginia
>=a0(reinvest in america: put america back to work! - free performance)
>=a0
>=a009/18/2004 university of north carolina - wilmington, north carolina
>=a0
>=a010/01/2004 kingsbury hall - salt lake city, utah (honor the earth
>=a0benefit)
>=a0
>=a011/05/2004 the palace - stamford, =a0connecticut =a0(tickets on sale
>=a0now at http://www.telecharge.com)
>=a0
>=a0for the latest tour information please visit:
>=a0
>=a0http://www.indigogirls.com/tour.html
>=a0
>=a0more dates coming soon!
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date:         sat, 14 aug 2004 02:42:25 -0500
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mike congratulations!!! i wish you and your boyfriend well....cheers!