lifeblood: listlogs: 2004-10c


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date:         thu, 14 oct 2004 21:11:36 -0400
reply-to:     mike reynolds <mike@uppity-disability.net>
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subject:      re: atwli review from afterellen.com
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at 03:34 pm 10/14/2004, juliana smith wrote:
>i'm sure the passersby on the sidewalks just chalk it up to another one of
>those damned folk/protest-toting undergraduate dykes.  ah well.


hell, if i'd pass by, i'd think you were doing a community service for
playing good music...

realizing i live < 500 feet from bates college dorms...whatever.

besides- aint nothing wrong with a folk/protest toting undergrad - just
dont lose it once you get out of college!!!!

mike r.

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date:         fri, 15 oct 2004 12:36:17 edt
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subject:      east lansing?
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so did anyone go to the ig show in east lansing, michigan last night?   i
still have not seen a review/setlist.

thanks!

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date:         sat, 16 oct 2004 08:04:45 +1000
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subject:      fwd: indigo girls street team!
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hey folks,

here's the latest official mailer...

-sherlyn

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date: fri, 15 oct 2004 10:10:37 -0400
subject: indigo girls street team!
> hello all!
>
> it's time for round number three of street teams for amy and emily.
>  we will need your help to make these shows a success.  if you
> would like to volunteer to be a street team member to help
> distribute posters and flyers for the following shows, please e-
> mail street@rcam.com.
>
> october 25th - forth worth, tx - bass performance hall october 27th
> - gainesville, fl - center for performing arts october 28th -
> miami, fl - olympia theater
> october 29th - west palm beach, fl - carefree theatre
>
> as always, we will give the volunteers a free pair of tickets for
> helping.  please e-mail us no later than 12pm friday october 15th.
> you will be notified by friday october 15th at 6pm if you are
> selected to join.  it is also very important that you put the name
> of the city you are interested in helping out for in the subject
> line.  please only send e-mails for the 4 shows listed above.
> please provide the city and state you live in as well.
>
> thank you very much for all your help and support getting the word
> out. we hope to see you at one of the shows!
>
> best regards,
>
> russell
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date:         sat, 16 oct 2004 08:07:19 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@pixelopolis.com>
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hey folks,

here's an article from the sioux city journal - you can read it online
at (all on one line) -
http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2004/10/15/entertainment/loca
l/32410dd63f9e4cce86256f2e001381c0.txt

-sherlyn

---begin forwarded article---
indigo girls coming to sioux city
by jesse claeys journal staff writer

amy ray had a tune dancing through her head when it came time to
record the latest studio release from the indigo girls.

not that it was anything new for the singer/songwriter. the problem
this time was ray had never really played lead guitar while recording
with emily saliers, the other half of the folk/rock duo.

"i'm pretty bad but i heard something and wanted to play it. i
struggled with it and did it," ray said during a telephone interview.

a women who has won half a grammy, released around 10 albums and is
adored by countless fans considers herself a bad guitar player? in
order to understand that you have to consider who she thinks great
guitar players are.

"i'm just simple, i guess. i mean, i listen to the allman brothers.
those guys, duane allman, he was the s---. you know, guys like jimi
hendrix, i listen to these guitar players and think, 'oh my god.' when
i listen to all that i realize i'm pretty simple but i'm playing what
is in my heart and that's what's important," ray said.

and playing what is in their hearts may be the key to the lasting
success of the indigo girls. not ones to rely on others' works, ray
and saliers pen their own tunes, with ray bringing a punk rock state
of mind to the softer, more classically influenced saliers.

the ying and yang found between the two indigo girls first grabbed
national attention when epic records released "indigo girls" in 1989.
on the strength of the single "closer to fine" the album hit the
charts and eventually earned a grammy that year for best folk
recording.

a string of gold and platinum records followed, placing ray and
saliers among classic duos like simon and garfunkel, for example. what
musical direction does an acoustic duo take after continued success?
the same one, but now there is some pressure involved.

ray said she tosses and turns over everything from styles of
arrangements to guitar leads, trying to never repeat herself while
writing songs, all the while attempting to stay in touch with the
sound the two women have developed over the years.

"it is important to me and important to challenge yourself, but at the
same time i don't ever think we should be different just for the sake
of being different. we pretty much want to do what is going to be the
best for the song," ray said.

for their latest album, "all that we let in," the indigo girls stuck
with the same team gathered for 2002's "become you." they used the
same studio, producer, studio musicians, etc. this time the gathered
musicians produced an album with rock tracks, rather than just
acoustic ones.

there are times when ray's love of the harder music in life produces
some tunes she deems not to be indigo girls friendly. she uses those
for solo projects like her second solo album that is expected to be
released in early april.

another project also in the works is an album of rarities, a kind of
bootleg disc, according to ray. that will have to wait the 15-stop
fall tour is over, one that will bring the indigo girls to the orpheum
theatre on wednesday, oct. 20.

"we are basically listening to all of the tapes we have lying around
from the last 15 or so years, just trying to sort out what we want to
put on it," the georgia-native said.

ray has learned one thing from listening to years and years of indigo
girls music, it's hard.

"it is kinda humbling and humiliating to listen to old stuff. there's
a reason why we haven't released some of these songs."

but after all, that's coming from a women who considers herself a bad
guitar player.

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date:         sat, 16 oct 2004 08:55:38 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@pixelopolis.com>
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subject:      fwd: indigo girls street team - deadline extension!
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hey folks,

here's an addendum to the last mailer...

-sherlyn

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date: fri, 15 oct 2004 18:46:56 -0400
subject: indigo girls street team - deadline extension!

>=a0the deadline for the latest group of street team shows has been
>=a0extended to monday, october 18th at 9am!

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date:         fri, 15 oct 2004 19:46:27 edt
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<<here i am is my favorite song on emily's hash boot.>>

okay, just exactly what is emily's hash boot, and where can i find it?

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date:         fri, 15 oct 2004 23:52:10 -0500
reply-to:     andrea crain <acrain@idea-inc.com>
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subject:      joliet - anyone planning to boot?
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so excited to be heading to joliet tomorrow! is anyone planning to boot
this show?

irked at ticketmaster because i bought tickets promptly and ended up in
row bb, and now they've released much better seats but i am out of luck.
boo, i say to that! oh well.

-andrea

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date:         sun, 17 oct 2004 13:14:40 +1000
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@pixelopolis.com>
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subject:      lansing show review
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hey folks,

here's a review of the east lansing show, from the lansing state
journal.  you can read it online at (all on one line) -
http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=3d/20041016/things0104/4101
60326/1055/news

cheers,
sherlyn

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published october 16, 2004
indigo girls blend beautifully
folk-rock duo had a powerful night; girlyman scored review

by natalie burg
for the lansing state journal

the prolific, grammy-winning, activist duo the indigo girls took the
wharton center stage thursday on a simple set: amy ray and emily
saliers stood side-by-side, playing an ever-changing lineup of
stringed instruments.

and the crowd's reaction to them was simple, as well: simply
overwhelmed.

the indigo girls are known for their large and faithful community of
fans, and the east lansing show was no exception.

old favorites such as "power of two" were not only sung along with,
but the crowd would burst into a frenzy from the first chords. and for
songs such as "closer to fine" and "galileo," the initially subdued
crowd took over for whole verses.

drawing from nine original albums of material, it was no surprise
their set was lengthy, but it was also well-rounded - and the audience
knew almost every song.

the powerful effect these women have on their fans is easy to
understand once you've seen them live. their folky music is honest and
beautiful. ray's smooth, alto voice slides easily beneath saliers'
higher vocals, and their harmonies were well-suited to the guitar
accompaniment.

known for their activism as much as their music, ray and saliers were
chatty during the show. ray talked about her trip earlier that day to
the parkwood ymca and encouraged people to patronize the ymca because
they offer domestic partner memberships; saliers added her plug for
applebee's, which offers "salad bars and domestic partner benefits."

saliers also wore a t-shirt with an unprintable anti-bush sentiment
that elicited cheers.

their music does much of the talking, though. in their own lyrics, the
indigo girls exemplify why their fan base is so strong and empowered
by them. in "let it be me," saliers encouraged the crowd, "if the
world is night, shine my life like a light."

opening bands rarely warrant a mention in a concert review. but
girlyman, who opened for the indigo girls, deserves some attention.

the trio - doris muramatsu, ty greenstein and nate borofsky -
delivered harmonic perfection. the two women and one man alternated
instruments and vocal leads through a fun mix of folk, bluegrass and
funk-inspired tunes.

their set opened with a beautiful cover of paul simon's "born at the
right time," then went on to include several original songs, a
side-spitting snippet of christina aguilera's "genie in a bottle"
woven into their original song "hey rose" and a funky spin on the
dusty springfield favorite, "son of a preacher man," sung by borofsky.

though they were promoting their first album as a trio, their future
is certainly bright.

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date:         sun, 17 oct 2004 03:23:26 -0500
reply-to:     andrea crain <acrain@idea-inc.com>
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paper towels!

just back from the joliet show. our seats were in row bb, which put us
behind a beer-soaked, chatty group who think it's clever to yell
"freebird" (which isn't so bad) and right in front of paper towel girl.
this woman and her friends reeked of beer and kept yelling "paper towels!"
and shrieking in our ears at quiet moments. we think she was high as well
as drunk. i had to pretend she was funny in my head or i would have become
enraged and ruined my evening.

anyway, so my digital camera has an audio recording function, which i used
since nobody wrote back and said "yes, i'm booting joliet." but i hope
somebody did because digital cameras are not made for booting. in fact,
the sound quality is highly sucky. also it turned off once and i don't
know how long it was out, possibly only a few seconds but i only got it
back on after free in you had already started. and since i knew it was
going to suck, soundwise, i didn't restrain myself from singing or
anything.

so i am hoping somebody booted for real. somebody not sitting between
paper towel girl and chatty freebird people. it was a great show! they
played let me go easy and mona lisas and mad hatters and finlandia! of
course, during finlandia, paper towel girl cracked open another brewski, a
sound effect not exactly commensurate with the mood of the song.

oh, amy was wearing a white shirt and shiny brown pants (pleather?) and
emily was wearing the wax bush shirt and jeans - very cute!

back in dekalb now, which is utterly devoid of fun, because of course if
it's fun, it's in downtown joliet. (or so their lampposts would have you
believe.)

-andrea

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date:         sun, 17 oct 2004 17:27:31 -0500
reply-to:     melissa virago <1honeybee@earthling.net>
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subject:      jodie is home!! :)
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hey all,

well after 4 and a half months in the hospital, jodie is finally well enoug=
h to be at home! :)  finally!  although, she was sent to rehab for two week=
s, she was not receiving any physical therapy so after 3 days there, we had=
her discharged.  she is doing very well.  she has two nurses who come to t=
he house every day. one is for her iv antibiotic transfusion.  the other nu=
rses changes her wound dressings.  she is doing very well.  eli and i, her =
parents and aunt, our church family, and our friends are all very pleased a=
nd excited that she has finally made it home.

she will get 10 more days of antibiotics and the dressing changes will cont=
inue until they are no longer necessary, maybe about a month.  she will con=
tinue to recuperate and regain her strength at home and is plannig to retur=
n to work at the beginning of january.  she will return sooner, if she feel=
s she's up to it and if she gets too 'bored' at home.  she is not planning =
on rushing back to work too soon, however.  if anything, i think she'll be =
ready to go back before january, but it's totally up to her.  she knows bes=
t how she feels and what she is capable of.  she is eating normally, just s=
lightly different than normal.  smaller meals are the biggest change, since=
her stomach has shrunken significantly after nearly 4 months of not eating=
.  jodie has been home since friday the 15th.  her parents celebrated their=
33rd anniversary yesterday, so that was a nice 'present' for them.=20=20

thank you again to everyone who has supported jodie and i during this long,=
worrisome, and tiresome ordeal.  i guess i won't be sending many more upda=
tes now.  hopefully, noone will miss them.  i am glad that i don't have to =
send anymore because she has made it so far in recovering from this.  hopef=
ully, she will not have another pancreatic attack.  her gall bladder was op=
erated on twice to remove all the gallstones.  when she is stronger, in sev=
eral months, she will have surgery to have her gall bladder removed.  final=
ly!  we'll be taking extra good care of jodie, you can be sure of that.  jo=
die and i will, that is.  the reality of losing my partner at the age of 29=
was quite real and something i never imagined i would experience.  i hope =
to not repeat any such instance with any other loved one for quite a long w=
hile.  i've had my fill of this business, thank you very much. :)

my best to everyone.  take care of yourselves.  i wish good health to you a=
ll!

peace, melissa
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date:         sun, 17 oct 2004 23:52:38 edt
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congratulations you two,

glad you are home jodie!!

<<go well,and stay well>>odetta to me in
conversation, minnesota folk festival may,1987

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date:         mon, 18 oct 2004 09:53:51 -0700
reply-to:     pc <adp1@mc.net>
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is there anyone on the list who goes to yale or john hopkins?
could you contact me off list?
thanks
pooh

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date:         mon, 18 oct 2004 09:30:35 -0700
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the show sunday night at foellinger auditorium at the university of illinois at champaign-urbana was fantastic. the last time they played u of i, the show at the krannert center sold out before i could get tickets. this time, i was fortunate enough to have front row seats (a first for me at an ig show) and even though they were still selling tickets before the show, it looked like a pretty full house to me. i'd forgotten how small this venue is!

amy and emily sound better than ever. they were just unbelievable. i love the band, but just the two of them with their instruments is amazing. highlights for me were thine line, which i was so hoping they'd play and the crowd loved it, and let it be me, virginia woolf and driver education.

emily and amy seemd to get chattier as the evening went on, but looked like they were happy to be there from the very start. they were pretty funny ... amy shared a story about a town meeting they had where she lives that featured a hot debate on same-sex marriage and ended in a hilarious analogy about the spartans.

i learned something at last night's show ... a non-dancing crowd is not necessarily a bad crowd. not a whole lot of dancing at all, but the crowd was really responsive and respectful. i was close to the aisle, so i inched over to dance for a few songs so i wouldn't obscure anyone's view.

another reason why i loved the crowd last night - they seemd to love girlyman as much as i did and it was one of the best responses to an ig opener (or any opener) i've ever seen. and girlyman deserved it, because they were just divine. again, folks weren't up and dancing but the place was pretty full for the opener and not many people were milling around and talking. they played with ig on ctf, perfect world and finlandia and actually managed to make those songs even better ... amy and emily really seemd to be enjoying playing with them.

from the ig site bbs, this is the set list posted as it appears on paper. i can't recall any changes. they didn't seem to have any chats about changing it up and before they played one of the songs, they said someone requested this, but we were going to play it anyway (can't remember which song that was)

fill it up again
become you
power of two
thin line
let it be me
heartache
ghost
gone again
closer to fine
perfect world
soon to be nothing
dairy queen
watershed
yield
virginia woolf
go
all that we let in
driver ed
get out the map
galileo
finlandia

amy was wearing her red and black satiny western shirt and emily was wearing a shiny shirt in pretty mauve shade. i think they were both wearing jeans. the both looked happy and well.

we didn't wait after the show. my parents were at our house with our daughter and my husband had to get up early today, so we headed back home and made it back just before 1 a.m.

karen, it was great to meet you!

everybody have fun on the rest of the dates, and don't forget to post reviews!
michelle


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date:         mon, 18 oct 2004 12:30:44 -0700
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through the magic of google, i came up with this show
this morning.  heres the link to the show info and to
buy tickets:

http://www.countbasietheatre.org/cal.php?month=11

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oh yeah! i forgot to mention that i loved girlyman at the joliet show. i
didn't have any cash, so i ordered the cd from daemon when i got home.
they are really, really good. witty, too.

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hi all -
i've been promoting girlyman for the past 3 years - they are terrific and they won independent artist of the year for the song "viola".  check out their website www.girlyman.com and check it out.  ty, doris and nate are all wonderful people and deserve being signed to daemon records and this spot on the ig tour.

last year they opened for catie curtis.

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i just recently bought the girlyman cd and i think they are great.
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icyspook, thanks for sending this post. i got seats right in the middle of
the orchestra. not bad. now, i hope my friend will trade me one ig seat for
one ani difranco seat. she's playing the same venue in december.

hey people, post more reviews and set lists, please!

cheers everyone,

tom m.

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does anyone know what the iron horse in north hampton ma is like?  we're =
going to see john eddie in november and it's general admission.  big?  =
small?  should we get there way early?  tables?

thanks
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important thing."  president bush - st. louis,  february 20, 2001

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thought i'd post about last night's milwaukee show. it was a nice performan=
ce at a great venue. both commented on how beautiful of a theater it is - a=
nd they are right. actually i've seen quite a few shows at the pabst this p=
ast year and just about every artist has made the same comment. i hope this=
means that ig will never play the riverside theatre in milwaukee again bec=
ause acoustically and intimacy-wise the pabst is far superior.=20
=20
girlyman is getting quite rave reviews from others on this list, and deserv=
edly so. typically 1/3 of an audience remains in the lobby during the openi=
ng act, 1/3 sits in the theatre and talks during the opening act, and the o=
ther 1/3 tries to listen politely. i'd say girlyman shattered those figures=
. i don't think i've ever heard an opening act get quite the attention that=
they did last night. they have great, great harmonies (greg, you would lov=
e them if you didn't attend any of the il shows), good stage presence, and =
earned a great response from the audience. some even stood and cheered afte=
r their final number, a fun rendition of son of a preacher man with a great=
angelic chorus intro. great stuff. i picked up a copy of their cd and am l=
ooking forward to listening to it. certainly one of the better openers i've=
seen at an ig show. i hope they do well.
=20
the crowd was what i would call 'appropriately active'. by that i mean quie=
t during songs that deserved quiet, and rowdy during songs that deserved ro=
wdiness. i've lost track of how many shows i've been to over the last 12 ye=
ars or so, but i guess i'm at that point in my listening and fandom  that i=
don't need to stand on my feet the entire show to consider it a good show.=
i'm sure some who still travel to a zillion shows a year might comment tha=
t the crowd was somehow not into it as much, but i would disagree. plus i t=
hink amy and emily play into that as well. they weren't overly talkative an=
d only had a few interactions with the crowd. my personal opinion is that t=
hat keeps the crowd in their seats more than security personnel. =20
=20
a few show highlights: girlyman joined ig for 4 tunes - closer to fine, per=
fect world, get out the map, and finlandia. in each case they really added =
to the songs. actually i'm always struck at how full (soundwise) ig can be =
without a band. but the addition of girlyman on each of those songs was rea=
lly a compliment to the sound, not an unnessasary addition (hope that makes=
sense).=20
=20
for those who like to hear about funny side comments that are made during a=
show, emily had one after she invited girlyman out to play get out the map=
. she said, "welcome girlyman. they=e2=80=99re so fab." when girlyman came =
out, nate from the group asked, "did you just call us fat?"  emily replied,=
"no i said fab." nate said, "i thought you said phat like p-h-a-t." emily'=
s response was, "no, i'm too white to say that." maybe you had to be there,=
but i thought it was funny stuff.
=20
anyway, all in all it was a good show. i was a little bummed that they had =
played thin line the night before. i called out for it while others shouted=
out requests. emily grimaced and said, "all songs we played last night." i=
wanted to shout, "but i wasn't there last night!" but they started into th=
e next song too quickly. oh well, maybe next time.
=20
as for the set list, this is what i recall, but don't quote me:

1) yield
2) hammer and a nail
3) heartache for everyone
4) power of two
5) starkville
6) it's alright
7) dairy queen
8) free in you
9) go
10) closer to fine (with girlyman, and connie of mrs. fun playing tambourin=
e)
11) perfect world (with girlyman)
12) soon be to nothing
13) chickenman / bitterroot
14) fill it up again
15) become you
16) something real
17) rodeo
18) get out the map (with girlyman)
19) land of canaan

encore:
20) mona lisas and mad hatters
21) galileo
22) finlandia (with girlyman)=20

that's it for now folks...deb

ps
for those who get the milwaukee journalsentinel, this morning's edition had=
a review and a photo from the show. i'm guessing the review will be online=
later today or tomorrow at www.jsonline.com.

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<p>i have two tickets available to the poughkepsie show on november 7, 2004=
.  the seats are orchestra row k, seats 114-116.  from the seatin=
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<html><div style='background-color:'><p>hey y'all!</p>
<p>i was wondering if any kind soul out there going to one of the upcoming shows could pick up a girlyman t-shirt for me.  i didn't have enough cash for both cd and shirt when they were here but would still love to have one.  if you were interested i would of course pay you back and trade some boots for your extreme kindness and helpfulness!!  please email me privately if interested.</p>
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hey kids,

here's a link to the milwaukee journalsentinel review of last night's show. the photo that ran in this morning's paper is also there:

http://www.jsonline.com/onwisconsin/music/oct04/267808.asp

deb

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bush's resume

george w. bush
1600 pennsylvania avenue
washington, dc 20520

education and experience

law enforcement:
- i was arrested in kennebunkport, maine, in 1976 for driving under the
influence of alcohol.
- i pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's license suspended for 30
days.
- my texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available.

military:
- i joined the texas air national guard and went awol.
- i refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use.
- by joining the texas air national guard, i was able to avoid combat duty in
vietnam.

college:
- i graduated from yale university with a low c average.
- i was a cheerleader!

past work experience

- i ran for us congress and lost.
- i began my career in the oil business in midland, texas, in 1975.
- i bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in texas. the company
went bankrupt shortly after i sold all my stock.
- i bought the texas rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took
land using taxpayer money.
- with the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including
enron ceo ken lay), i was elected governor of texas.

accomplishments as governor of texas

- i changed texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making
texas the most polluted state in the union. during my tenure, houston replaced
los angeles as the most smog-ridden city in america.
- i cut taxes and bankrupted the texas treasury to the tune of billions in
borrowed money.
- i set the record for the most executions by any governor in american
history.
- with the help of my brother, the governor of florida, and my father's
appointments to the supreme court, i became president after losing by over 500,000
votes.

accomplishments as president

- i am the first president in us history to enter offi! ce with a criminal
record.
- i invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one
billion dollars per week.
- i spent the us surplus and effectively bankrupted the us treasury.
- i shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in us history.
- i set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any
12-month period.
- i set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
- i set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the us
stock market.
- in my first year in office, over 2 million americans lost their jobs and
that trend continues every month.
- i'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any
administration in us history. my "poorest millionaire," condoleeza rice, has a chevron
oil tanker named after her.
- i set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by a us president.
- i am the all-time us and world record-holder for receiving the most
corporate ca! mpaign donations.
- my largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends,
kenneth lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in us history,
enron.
- my political party used enron private jets and corporate attorneys to
assure my success with the us supreme court during my election decision.
- i have protected my friends at enron and halliburton against investigation
or prosecution. more time and money was spent investigating the monica
lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate
rip-offs in history.
- i presided over the biggest energy crisis in us history and refused to
intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.
- i presided over the highest gasoline prices in us history.
- i changed the us policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded
government contracts.
- i appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any president
in us history.
- i creat! ed the ministry of homeland security, the largest bureaucracy in
the history of the united states government.
- i've broken more international treaties than any president in us history.
- i am the first president in us history to have the united nations remove
the us from the human rights commission.
- i withdrew the us from the world court of law.
- i refused to allow inspector's access to us "prisoners of war" detainees
and thereby have refused to abide by the geneva convention.
- i am the first president in history to refuse united nations election
inspectors (during the 2002 us election).
- i set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any president
since the advent of television.
- i set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period.
- after taking off the entire month of august, i presided over the worst
security failure in us history.
- i garnered the most sympathy ever for the us after the world trade! center
attacks and less than a year later made the us the most hated country in the
world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.
- i have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously
protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for
protests against any person in the history of mankind.
- i am the first president in us history to order an unprovoked, preemptive
attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. i did so against the
will of the united nations, the majority of us citizens, and the world
community.
- i have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty
benefits for active duty troops and their families in wartime.
- in my state of the union address, i lied about our reasons for attacking
iraq and then blamed the lies on our british friends.
- i am the first president in history to have a majority of europeans (71%)
view my presidency as the biggest threat to ! world peace and security.
- i am supporting development of a nuclear "tactical bunker buster," a wmd.
- i have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring osama bin laden to
justice.

records and references

- all records of my tenure as governor of texas are now in my father's
library, sealed and unavailable for public view.
- all records of sec investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt
companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
- all records or minutes from meetings that i, or my vice-president, attended
regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for
public review.

please consider my experience when voting in 2004!

please send this to every voter you know!

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hey folks,

here's the milwaukee journal sentinel article that deb forwarded the
link to earlier
(http://www.jsonline.com/onwisconsin/music/oct04/267808.asp)...

cheers,
sherlyn

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a subtle mix of politics, music
advocacy remains unspoken while the songs inspire a sense of community and
tunefulness
by dave tianen
dtianen@journalsentinel.com
posted: oct. 19, 2004
the evening opened with an unspoken political double-entendre.

indigo girls

when the indigo girls took the stage at the pabst theater monday night, emily
saliers was wearing a black t-shirt with a command that melded politics and
personal hygiene.

one expects a thread of muscular advocacy from the indigo girls. the surprising
thing about the new indigos album, "all that we let in," is that in a year
marked by ardent musical propagandizing, the indigos have come up with an album
that is largely relational in its focus.

perhaps the issues are already so well staked out that there's not much need to
talk about them. no fewer than a dozen political action groups are advertised
behind the cd in "all that we let in." there's everything from honor the earth
to sweat shop watch to the national gay and lesbian task force.

but during the concert saliers and partner amy ray spoke only in passing about
the election. they didn't even introduce songs. indeed, they really didn't
speak to the crowd much at all.

they didn't need to. the indigo girls have never really had a hit song. but
they have a sense of community with their audience that transcends the passing
enthusiasm of a hit song. most of the women who emerged from the late '80s folk
movement have fallen back to the level of club attractions.

the indigo girls visit milwaukee often, but they always pack the house, as they
did again at the pabst. a lot of acts have fans who can sing the chorus to
their biggest hits. when the indigos jump in unannounced with the freshly
minted "fill it up again" or "perfect world," the crowd sings along with the
verses to those new songs. for indigo landmarks like "closer to fine" or "get
out the map," the mostly female crowd is on its feet and singing along from the
get-go.

certainly some of it is the knack for writing folk rock tunes with booming
choruses and stick-to-the-ears melodies. but there's probably a bit more to it
than that.

ray and saliers are an interesting mix of contrast and complement. ray is
edgier, more rock 'n' roll, more raspy. her physicality is different as well.
she's dark and lean, looking a bit like a female ron wood.

saliers is blonder, softer, with a prettier, more classic pop/folk voice. and
while she doesn't have ray's hint of aggression, she's more talkative. that
kind of mix of personalities and physical types has helped win one of the most
loyal cult audiences in contemporary folk for the indigo girls.

because of deadlines it was impossible to catch all of the indigos' encore.

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i don't know if anyone else has had this experience-- all my life i've seen ig in milwaukee,chicago and madison. i've gone on the occaisional ig road trip (pa, in, etc.), but i normally see ig at certain 'home' theatres. now i'm living in la, and while i've seen them at some great places (humphries, the greek, disney hall, etc.), it's just not the same. everytime they play milwaukee i want to buy a plane ticket back! i also find that i had a more personal interaction with the girls when i was living in milwaukee. i don't know if they remember fans based in part upon the location in which they normally see them, or if it's just that fans are a little less ardent in the wisconsin area....anyone else relate?

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i too live on the west coast, but my parents live in the midwest.  i flew in
for the joliet, urbana, and milwaukee shows.  the girls were very accessible
at all three shows, whereas after many of the west coast shows from this
summer, they weren't as much so.

i actually think it has more to do with the venue itself than anything else.
at some places (like disney hall for example), it is impossible for them to
sign or do photos as their bus is parked somewhere underground.

as far as the shows themselves, i do think it has to do with their moods more
than anything.  at all three shows i was at last weekend, they were in great
moods.  however, i have been to plenty of midwest shows where their moods
weren't so great and they weren't nearly as chatty with the crowd.  from the
reviews i am reading from the other midwest shows this time around, it just seems
like they are both in great moods.  they've have a fairly long break (only a
few scattered shows since july), and are probably just happy to be touring for a
while again.  :)

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"well the world seems spent and the president has no good
idea of who the masses are
well i'm one of them and i'm among friends
we're trying to see beyond the fences in our own backyards" (isn't that the
truth?!)
-- emily saliers, indigo girls

"this world falls on me dreams of immortality, everywhere i turn all the
beauty
just keeps shaking me"  -- amy, again

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i have to say that the theatre the girls played in the other night in milwaukee was gorgeous.  i don't think they've played there (at least not in a while) before...

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ok

for the serious

http://www.thekerrymovie.com - going upriver for download - legit, legal
downloads!

http://filmstripinternational.com/ - featuring jim's big ego (some
swearing, but really awesome flash!)

and maybe the sox will win the world series, kerry will get into office,
and take some sort of hard drugs and officially recognize queer marriage
and....

wait...ok the sox are in the world series (i was working last yr then lost
my job before the alcs was i think settled, least i have job security and
no friends in imminent danger of death... funny how year changes everything...

well gotta get to bed as i should be seeing one f911 director tomorrow -
with creditials... downloads soon

oh - igc - well i have a feeling amy would love my links...

go red sox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


mjr

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date:         thu, 21 oct 2004 08:52:48 -0400
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received on another list...

righteous babe recording artist ani difranco, with special guest dan bern, on saturday,
november 27, at the civic centre theatre.  show time is 8 p.m.  tickets ** reserved
seating ** (including gst): $39.50, plus facility fee and ticketmaster service charge.

as a loyal supporter of the ckcu ottawa folk festival, you can jump to the "front of the
line" and purchase your tickets before everybody else.  now pay attention.  beginning at
10 a.m. on thursday, october 21, you can buy the best seats to this show on-line by
clicking on this link:  http://www.ticketmaster.ca/event/1000394e8e31fa84 and using the
special ottawa folk festival mailing list password: righteous.  this exclusive pre-sale
opportunity ends on saturday, october 23, at 5 p.m.

final note: the link will not be activated before 10 a.m. on thursday, october 21, so
don't waste your time clicking on it before that time.

hope that helps someone,

henry troup
ottawa, canada

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date:         thu, 21 oct 2004 09:04:45 -0700
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http://survey.pollingpoint.com/survey/welcome.php?sn=58&cid=108&rid=1808689

polling point survey on gay marriage.  you can sign up to win an ipod at the
end, if it doesn't screw up on the part where you enter your contact info like
it did for me.

anna

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crosses my path, on behalf of the souls they never knew they saved."
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date:         fri, 22 oct 2004 10:20:36 +1000
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hey folks,

here's a review from the sioux city journal - shame the turnout was so
low!  you can find this article online at (long url, needs to be all on one
line) -
http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2004/10/21/entertainment/local/717cc57bf3410f6e86256f3400199cc0.txt

cheers,
sherlyn

---begin forwarded article---
indigo girls deliver big show to small crowd
by jesse claeys, journal staff writer

a small turnout at the orpheum theatre did little to deter the indigo girls
when they brought their brand of folk music to sioux city wednesday night.

"it feels like we have the place to ourselves tonight," emily saliers, one half
of the indigo girls, said at the conclusion of the duo's first song.

the theatre had the vibe of kids in a school building without any teachers
around throughout the show. with half of the floor's seats empty and many of
the balcony seats vacant, all the space created an intimate setting where
saliers and fellow indigo girl amy ray had ongoing dialogues with the crowd in
between tunes that spanned their entire career.

the set was a balance between the two singer/songwriters. the set ping ponged
between songs penned by ray and those written by saliers. the fast paced "go"
driven by ray's chops balanced nicely with "power of two" carried by saliers's
vocals. and so the night went.

early on during the over-75-minute performance, ray's voice was scratchy at
times, but may have only been noticeable because ray and saliers were mostly
alone on stage with only their voices and an endless parade of stringed
instruments.

vocals were strong on "closer to fine," which moved people to their feet upon
hearing the opening notes. girlyman, the three-piece acoustic band that opened
last night, joined the indigo girls on stage for three songs, including "closer
to fine." during the song, the indigo girls sang a verse, girlyman sang a
verse and the crowd sang the last one.

the moment may have proved there is nothing finer than a crowd comprised mostly
of women with decent voices singing into the inviting acoustics of the orpheum
theater.

some may have expected the duo who performed on a few stops of ani difranco's
"vote dammit!" tour and are well know for their political activism to talk
about the upcoming elections during the show; but they were only mentioned in
passing, with saliers asking if everyone was registered before breaking into
"hammer and a nail."

the small gathering allowed for every person with a request to clearly voice
their pick to the indigo girls, and, at one point, for a guy to tell the
ladies he was from seattle. the intimacy increased when, after two people
tossed stuffed animals on stage, ray revealed something personal.

"i can't throw stuffed animals out because i think they are alive," she said,
possibly joking before describing a climate-controlled room at her home filled
with the fluffy things.

saliers dropped a local note saying she had dinner at sioux city eatery sweet
fanny's tuesday night and asked if the waitress who served her was at the
show. she was and was thanked for bringing a few friends along with her.

when all was played and sung, there was plenty of love in the big theatre
coming from a small group of indigo girl fans wednesday night. it's just too
bad there were not more people to join in.

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