lifeblood: listlogs: 2005-03d


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date:         tue, 22 mar 2005 06:25:08 -0800
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sorry to take up bandwidth with something i should know, but can
someone tell me how to unsub?

thanks!

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date:         tue, 22 mar 2005 09:16:48 -0800
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quoting kari <kj@kariandsandy.com>:

> sorry to take up bandwidth with something i should know, but can
> someone tell me how to unsub?

send a message to listserv@lists.netspace.org with the following content:
signoff indigo-girls

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anna

"i'm of a fearsome mind to throw my arms around every living librarian who
crosses my path, on behalf of the souls they never knew they saved."
     --barbara kingsolver
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date:         tue, 22 mar 2005 18:19:57 -0800
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had friends cancel and need to sell these...i'll sell
them for $100.

email me if you're interested.

thanks,
deb

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date:         tue, 22 mar 2005 23:13:52 -0500
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time does seem to slip away (from me) at an alarming rate.  who have i missed sending announcements out for?

february 28 (' 68)
jennifer (jenindgo@aol.com)

february 29 ('80)
----------------------
melijoy@aol.com - leapie mel
"la la la...see...even centuries do have leap year days"
"if i was naked and screaming on your front porch, would you turn the light
on and come down??" <g>

march

march 1
mmacvey@attach.net (marylin macvey)

march 2 ('63)
tsuch002@maroon.tc.umn.edu (connie)

march 2
madonna maynes <m.maynes@student.qut.edu.au>
chickenman =96 hold my hand=85

march 6
babyindigo@aol.com (jen)

march 11 ('77)
jillian.certo@oberlin.edu (jill certo)

march 15 ('69)
jenhall@juno.com (jen hall)

march 15
jessica fritzges (jsslyn@aol.com)

march 17 ('78)
skwan@midway.uchicago.edu (susanna kwan)
"gotta get outta bed, get a hammer and a nail, learn how to use my
hands, not just my head, cuz i'll think myself into jail"

march 17 (=9276)
jberryhaynes@yahoo.com (john haynes)
the big "25"!

march 17
barbbordner@aol.com (barbara bordner)

march 18 ('73)
junebug@aeneas.net (leigh ann)

march 21 ('73)
carrieb@gladstone.uoregon.edu (carrie christine brogoitti)

march 21
indigoddess19@aol.com (nanci)

march 24 ('64)
pjhoopie@aol.com (pj)
"i come to you with strange fire, i make an offering of love, the
incense of my soul is burned by the fire in my blood"

march 25
cml@mindspring.com (christy lynch)

march 26
ldavidson@asabenifits.com (leigh ann davidson)
"...forget regret, or life is yours to miss...
no other road no other way, no day but today..."
-rent

march 26 ('74)
diane gagnon <dispdmg@fastdial.net>

goodness.  well i hope those who have celebrated had a wonderful and safe time doing so.  and for those who are like me and choose to celebrate every day (it's fun - everyone should try it!) same to ya!  :)

love and devotion,
audra
bge

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date:         wed, 23 mar 2005 16:22:42 +1100
reply-to:     sherlyn koo <sherlyn@pixelopolis.com>
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hey folks,

just got back from an awesome show at the scottish rite theater
in collingswood nj.  a&e looked & sounded fabulous.  girlyman
opened - we missed the first part of their set but i enjoyed what i
heard.

did anyone get a proper setlist?  off the top of my head i can recall
(and this is completely out of order)

hammer & a nail
moment of forgiveness
devotion
the wood song
winthrop (yay.  never thought i'd heard this again!)
driver's ed
dairy queen
perfect world (w/ girlyman)
welcome me
watershed
power of two
collecting you
ozilline
shame on you
get out the map (w/ girlyman)
closer to fine

encore:
galileo
finlandia (w/ girlyman)

not much talking on ig's part but what a setlist!

i don't have much more to add except that it was a great, great show.

cheers,
sherlyn
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date:         wed, 23 mar 2005 03:23:31 est
reply-to:     indigotraveller@aol.com
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i'm surprised that nobody has posted that amy has a solo show at the fox in
boulder on may 2nd.  tix are only about $20.

lauren

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date:         wed, 23 mar 2005 00:52:38 -0800
reply-to:     spike <indigokare@gmail.com>
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yeah, amy is doing a whole solo tour in support of her upcoming release, prom.

there are a lot more dates and more information at
http://indigogirls.com/bbs and http://indigovortex.com

i think that a lot of the would-be traffic on this list has gone over
to the boards.  new tour dates are almost always posted (and
discussed) there before they are posted here.


on wed, 23 mar 2005 03:23:31 est, indigotraveller@aol.com
<indigotraveller@aol.com> wrote:
> i'm surprised that nobody has posted that amy has a solo show at the fox in
> boulder on may 2nd.  tix are only about $20.
>
> lauren
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"i'm running to the end of the earth,
and i'm swimming to the edge of the sea,
and i'm laughing, i'm under a starry sky
this world was meant for me
don't bury me carry me..."
~~ amy ray, indigo girls

"there's a lot to be said for what's been left behind
you just dream of the ocean
waves from the aleutians crashing on the shore
and you'd dream of the maori
alive in the south sea..."
~~ nate borofsky, girlyman

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date:         wed, 23 mar 2005 12:10:59 -0500
reply-to:     jude hunter <hunterj_one@msn.com>
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make sure you send that unsubbing email from the email address you used t=
o originally sign up to the list.  =20
jude :)get more from the web.  free msn explorer download : http://explor=
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date:         wed, 23 mar 2005 18:08:56 +0000
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delete indigo-girls ang1125@aol.com

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date:         wed, 23 mar 2005 13:52:33 -0500
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anyone else going to the odeon show tom night?  doors open at 7 and
wondering what time to actually get there.  is it worth it to get there
earlier and stand in line?  is there ever a line?

bethany w.

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date:         fri, 25 mar 2005 19:31:47 -0500
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we got our tickets the two days before the show, not sure if it was a
sold out venue by showtime. we didnt write down the setlist so if anyone
did would they please post it. i visited the ig bbs and a boot of the
show has been offered up and a tree is forming, i think. i am not
registered so i dont know how that forum works. it was a great acoustic
set with a nice mix of old and new songs. amy sang "drivers education"
solo and emily sang, "winthrop" solo on the electric piano. not much
banter between songs from the girls except the usual thankyous. we ended
up finding some stools on the balcony. we opted for a clear view to the
stage farther back, than trying to see over people standing on the main
floor. magna pop, the opening band, was a little to head banging for me.
please post a setlist if you got one. i guess we are getting to be "old"
indigo fans. no camera, no binos, and no pen/paper for a setlist! oh,
and dont forget the stools!
bettyann

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date:         sat, 26 mar 2005 12:28:12 +1100
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hey folks,

here's an article from the southern voice website about emily's new
book... you can read it online at
http://www.sovo.com/2005/3-25/arts/books/books.cfm

cheers,
sherlyn

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saved by song
indigo girl emily saliers discusses how she and her theologian father
came to reflect on music as a spiritual outlet in new book.

by van gower
mar. 25, 2005

philosopher friedrich nietzsche once said, =93without music, life would
be a mistake.=94

of course, music can be an essential outlet for human emotions and can
feed the soul on a spiritual level, as the father-daughter duo don and
emily saliers write in =93a song to sing, a life to live: reflections on
music as spiritual practice,=94 their first book together.

saliers, one half of the lesbian folk-rock duo indigo girls, says the
book is =93about how there is a spiritual path in both secular and
sacred music, and how the deep human yearnings in them are one and the
same sometimes.=94

emily grew up singing in church choirs, but she regards herself in =93a
song to sing=94 as a =93religious mutt=94 at odds with organized religion.
her father, a professor of theology and worship at the candler school
of theology at emory university, has deep convictions in christian
faith.

the nature of their relationships with a higher power may differ, but
they are united in the belief that music can bring humanity closer to
that power, no matter what form it takes for individuals.

in =93a song to sing, a life to live,=94 emily writes about touring with
indigo girls and seeing =93people whose souls seemed homeless find a
home and family in particular songs that called their name.=94

she says that applies not just to humanity as a whole, but also to
marginalized populations, including african americans and gays.

=93this whole calling to each other and naming each other is so
powerful,=94 she says. =93i can=92t think of anything else that speaks to it
so powerfully as music can.=94

of all the discussions the authors share in =93a song to sing,=94 emily
says she made the greatest effort to communicate directly with gay
readers in chapter five, =93becoming who you are through music.=94

=93i can never separate my thoughts and feelings from my identity and
the rest of my queer community, but i do as much as possible to expand
my thoughts and make them universal,=94 she says. =93when you hear a song
that expresses what you=92ve struggled with for so long, it can be so
liberating.=94

in the =93saturday night and sunday morning=94 chapter, the saliers write
that the line between sacred and secular is easily blurred in music
and its various forms. since music can defy categorization, even
non-religious people can find community, comfort and healing through
song. that was the case when indigo girls played gigs in the late
1980s at the now-defunct little five points pub in atlanta, emily
writes.

christian music, from traditional hymns to contemporary praise rock,
has the ability to inspire and transform the soul even if the listener
isn=92t christian.

=93praise music doesn=92t move my soul the same as the old sacred music
does, but i understand it=92s an important tool for some people to help
their lives evolve spiritually,=94 emily says.

another theme in the book is that music can=92t be taken for granted.
whether evolving spiritually or just trying to find a little happiness
in the human journey, everyone - gay and straight - struggles to find
a place in the grand design, and music can be the key to finding it,
the saliers write.

=93you hear people talk about spirituality and being named and known by
god,=94 emily says. =93when you=92ve been lonely or homeless in your soul,
when you finally find a home [through music], that=92s a spiritual
gift.=94

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=a9 2005 the southern voice

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date:         fri, 25 mar 2005 22:31:18 -0800
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from high road:

(from high road)

"but i got this spark, i got to feed it something, or put it out for
good. =96 put it out for good

amy ray's second solo album, prom, explores the dance between gender
and sexuality, man and woman, youth and adulthood, authority and
rebellion. the setting is the south, both suburban and rural, where an
undercurrent of whitewashed innocence and destructive value systems
often hold the hierarchy together. these ten songs are full of
characters from amy's past and present, including the disenfranchised
kids from her high school days, loves lost to addiction and abuse, and
the teenagers that now inhabit her southern rural neighborhood. she
challenges many institutions including the christian right, but does
not shrink from taking to task the alternative institutions of
rebellion. her almost edible, growling voice and innate storytelling
renders an album that is pastoral but filled with firecrackers; life
giving, but never resting. ray, one half of the indigo girls, will
release this album, like her last, on her independent label, daemon
records.

i'm just a calf with tender feet and sewn on horns, and love is a
prize waiting on her at the rodeo. -rodeo

prom roams over the vast territory of love and gender as contained in
the physicality of nature. the subject matter spans a delicate
landscape (suicide, racism, gender identification, political idealism,
homophobia) but because she sees this awkward journey as both a
struggle and a celebration, ray comes across as curious and unafraid.
from the clash-meets-phil spector anthem "driver education" to the
speedy and catchy social commentary "blender," ray again occupies the
space between rock, old-school punk, and folk, and claims this ground
as her own.

i grow away from myself, with each passing bell. with all these new
accessories, i just stumble and bleed. -pennies on the track

much of the exploration in prom is done in the context of high school
life. "in high school i fell in love with a woman for the first time,
played my first gigs, learned about rebellion, experienced the idea of
community, and felt the innocence of genderless childhood fading away
into the reality of puberty," says ray. this is a time worth
revisiting says ray because we all see life through a special lens as
we first are discovering ourselves. "high school was a time when i
really had a grip on the idea of rebellion and what it meant to
believe in something enough to fight for it. when i see kids now, i
still see this happening with them and it is still infused with the
same passion, confusion, and hormonal angst that i felt." even the
love songs on prom have a sense of fragile self-righteousness, and a
certain youthful tenderness as if ray is discovering love for the
first time.

we got a punk rock problem; i'm tired of playing shirts and skins
here. how do we sing against the system, when we're a main offender?
-blender

but prom is not just about individual transformation and the search
for self; it deals with maturation (and the frustrating lack thereof)
in culture and society at large. it is a slow dance in the white rural
south, that carries with it conflicts similar to those of white
suburbia in the 70's. she weaves her own experience as a teenager with
what she sees as the new challenges for a younger generation. she also
levels a critical eye at the punk movement itself, of which she is a
lifelong admirer and convert. punk is the ultimate folk music,
breaking down barriers and refusing to blithely follow rules set down
by an unaccountable "other." yet punk's stars are overwhelmingly white
and male. ray says she feels as though she inhabits the male part of
her psyche when she plays rock or punk, but is unsure whether that's
because of where the music is coming from in her, or what is expected
by a society that expects rebellion from boys and propriety from
girls.

i am an overachiever of the wrong persuasion, a pep rally kid, a new
gender nation with a new desire. -put it out for good

lending to the credibility of her argument that girls rock, too, is
the presence of what ray calls "punk royalty" on prom. former team
dresch bassist and guitarist jody bleyle and donna dresch sat in on
several sessions, and added some riot-grrl-style sturm und drang to
the proceedings (the other half of team dresch, the butchies, figured
prominently on stag). former beastie boys and luscious jackson drummer
kate schellenbach brought her virtuosic sensibilities to many tracks,
as well. ray says, "these players have influenced my direction in
life, as well as my music. having a rhythm section like kate and jody
is the ultimate collaborative experience for me."

on the other half of prom ray is joined by birmingham, alabama band
nineteen forty-five (also on daemon records), whom she calls "one of
the best garage bands around." drummer will lochamy, bassist katharine
mcelroy, and guitarist hunter manasco are part of a scene that is
infused with the values of diy music. they and their southern punk
compatriots have been known to make "one night records" in their
basements and are always ready to rumble. it was in one of these
basements that ray laid down some of the first tracks of prom. "some
of the guys would be down there recording with me, and then we needed
handclaps or crowd sounds behind us, so we'd shout upstairs to their
friends or whoever was up there watching tv." the rag-tag orchestra
was dubbed "the pep rally kids," and is featured on the first track,
"put it out for good."

and the strife will make me stronger as my maker leads me onward. i'll
be marching in that number so let it ring. -let it ring

ray's solo punk debut, stag was released to critical acclaim. and like
her first record, she sees prom as anything but a solo experience. ray
joined her newfound band mates on their home turfs, working in
birmingham, atlanta, and l.a. throughout the year, in between indigo
girls' tours. the record ended up in athens, ga., where it was mixed
by david barbe. letting her musical comrades determine the journey was
an integral part of her process, and this, says ray is also the
message of prom - a sort of southern west side story about coming of
age, finding love, and fighting for your humanity in the company of
others. "who was the producer on this? everyone was. it was a real
community effort."

indigo girls fans will find an edgier, angrier, and yet more hopeful,
compassionate and playful ray on this record than ever before. it is
something short of a proclamation and more of an exploration; ray asks
the questions and leaves the answer to the listener and for herself.
as they find their own meaning in prom, listeners will undoubtedly
find some of their past, present, and future selves between the lines.

rub up against it 'til it gets inside you, and let it burn for good.
let it burn for good."

***
"i'm running to the end of the earth,
and i'm swimming to the edge of the sea,
and i'm laughing, i'm under a starry sky
this world was meant for me
don't bury me carry me..."=20
~~ amy ray, indigo girls

"there's a lot to be said for what's been left behind=20
you just dream of the ocean
waves from the aleutians crashing on the shore=20
and you'd dream of the maori=20
alive in the south sea..."
~~ nate borofsky, girlyman

http://www.indigogirls.com
http://www.girlyman.com
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date:         mon, 28 mar 2005 01:35:43 -0600
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hey, gang! wikipedia is a free, open-source collaborative encyclopedia
project. anyone, at any time, can edit almost all its articles.

an indigo girls page, and separate pages for amy, emily and daemon
records, have been started, but they are at less than their full
potential. i thought some people here might want to jump in and help.

one can put in anything (including curse words or stupid jokes, although
when this happens someone usually notices and reverts back to a previous
version very quickly) but what we're aiming for is an encyclopedia
article. most important info at the top, more detail further down. lots of
links to other parts of the encyclopedia. neutral point of view, and no
fan gushing or trivia.

the idea is that someone hearing of the indigo girls should be able to
click to their wikipedia page, quickly find out the most important bits of
info, and be able to find out lots more detail if they care to keep
reading, while not being troubled with remarks on how darn cute they are
or what their cats are named. it should also have lots of cites to back up
the article; i'm thinking lots of lifeblood articles could be referenced
in this page.

if you want to help, the indigo girls page for the english version is
here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/indigo_girls

i strongly encourage you to create an account and log in before editing,
so it's easier to see who's doing what when you look at the history, and
you can keep track of what you've done. i also strongly encourage you to
read the tutorials and click around the encyclopedia to get a feel for the
place.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/help:contents

there are separate versions for other languages, so if you feel like
translating, go to the main wikipedia page and look them up in another
language.
http://www.wikipedia.org

so, let's make the indigo girls article a wonderful resource and do them
justice!

-andrea (andreac on wikipedia)

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saw the girls in covington with my sister this past saturday, thanks to dee and
her two extra tickets.  it was almost like they made the setlist just for me!
lots of stuff from rites of passage and swamp ophelia and other favorites.
emily played winthrop, which i've never had the chance to hear performed live.
it was beautiful.

the venue was tiny, and expect there were quite a few unhappy people at this
cramped, sold-out show.  we had a pretty good view of the stage from the second
row of the standing room part of the balcony, but there didn't seem to be very
many good spots compared to the plethora of really bad spots with no visuals.
but, it had a bar, so the people in the back could get drunk and talk loudly
with their friends, if they wanted.

anna

"i'm of a fearsome mind to throw my arms around every living librarian who
crosses my path, on behalf of the souls they never knew they saved."
     --barbara kingsolver
eclecticlibrarian.net | good music found here: wishingchair.com

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