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date:         wed, 15 jun 2005 02:57:30 -0700
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speaking of first concerts, i just took my son to his first concert tonight
- the aquabats. i've saved him from my eternal shame of christian rock (my
first concert being amy grant...)

-jenna

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when amy and emily play without a band, the show seems much shorter.  i tried to remember what they sung and i know i'm missing a few songs but here's the list (not in order) for each show:

they sang "tether" with three5human both nights and in northampton, emily also sang a song with them about jenny(don't know title).

hyannis   6/11                                                 northampton 6/12

yield*                                                      * starred songs also done here
fill it up*
starkville*                                                    plus:  devotion:)
land of canaan (great guitar playing!)                        everything in it's own time
power of 2*                                                          rodeo (solo)
gone again*                                                          ozillene
drivers education (amy's solo)                                   let me go easy
winthrop (emily's solo)*                                           let it be me
ctf (with trina from 35h)*
wood song*
get out the map*
joking*
shame on you*

encores done right away
galileo*
virginia woolf*
heartache for everyone*

did anyone record either show?

i was very impressed with three5human's lead singer both nights.  trina gave so much of herself and i couldn't help but be lifted by her spirit.  watching her dance around the stage was so freeing.  she didn't just do it for the audience:  she connected to her band and had a lot of fun and it was infectious.

she seems to really love amy and emily:  she watched them in the pit at the melody tent(right near where we sat) and had a smile on her face the whole time.

by the end of two shows of with her and ig, i couldn't get much higher without drugs!

great way to start the summer:)
rena
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this is in www.capecodonline.com today and will be in the cape paper tomorrow
(monday).

a great show as usual.  i'm sure someone else will post the playlist.  the girls
looked great, sang great and the melody tent was a-rockin.  three5human rocked
as well.  i do have to say that  despite the review below, the crowd was  not
"stumped" by winthrop.  we were mezermized and thrilled to be hearing it live:)

peace,
jen

june 12, 2005
indigo girls - a melody tent singalong
by susan milton
staff writer
hyannis - saturday night, i was the only person in the melody tent who didn?t
know the words to the songs sung by the indigo girls, the opening concert of the
summer season.
nobody had told me there was a new requirement for concert-going.
out of curiousity, i had signed up to review the duo, singers for over 20 years
with a reputation for delivering good music. and, after all, ?indigo? is one of
my favorite words.


i first knowingly heard indigo girls in ?boys on the side? ? the 1995
tear-jerker of a movie. their ?power of two? was one of my favorite songs on
that excellent soundtrack of women singers such as bonnie raitt, cheryl crowe
and the cranberries. that sweet ballad of harmony ... ?adding up the total of a
love that?s true, multiply life by the power of two,? surprised me because i had
thought the indigo girls were more hard rock. of course, i also had heard,
?closer to fine,? their first hit in 1989 on the epic label for which amy ray
and emily saliers had won a grammy for best contemporary fold recording. i just
didn?t know they were singing it until i dug into their history.
they met in grade school in decatur, ga., started singing together in high
school, split for a bit to go to different colleges, then reconnected to begin a
career of singing and playing that?s lasted for over two decades and eight
albums, at least.
saturday night i also learned is that the indigo girls, those troubadours of
troubled hearts and good conscience, don?t even need to sing at their own
concert. their loyal fans sing - and they did a very good job through 16 songs
and three encores before the melody tent?s 10:30 p.m. curfew.
and who knew there would be tests? frequently amy ray and emily saliers of
indigo girls would stop singing and the tent chorus didn?t miss a syllable.
from their first hit and perhaps best-known song, ?closer to fine,? recorded in
1989 for epic, to ?heartache for everyone from their 2004 cd, the indigo girls
had all the back-up vocals they needed in the melody tent where they played,
just the two of them, without their usual back-up band.
the only time the crowd was stumped was on songs from their new cd, ?rarities.?
emily saliers sang ?winthrop? a melancholy ballad that refers to the
massachusetts town, and accompanied herself on the keyboard. as usual, the
lyrics are complex and thoughtful - in ?the coffee deep night black i hear the
dim roar of the last plane out and for someone there is someone never coming
back.?
among the highlights of the concert was the excellent instrumentals - guitar,
mandolin and banjo - and the often heart-piercing harmony between the two voices
on stage.
the capacity crowd was dancing in the aisles to ?shame on you? and saliers?
great guitar-picking. in a request, placed on the stage, the indigo girls played
?get out the map? about separation and traveling. it was for an iraqi exchange
student at falmouth academy, ruba k. ali, who was leaving the cape for home the
next morning at 6:30 a.m.
?i think about your country every day,? saliers told her, in a rare aside.
otherwise, the business-like duo from georgia said little other than ?thanks,
y?all? all night and managed to finish before the melody tent?s 10:30 p.m.
curfew.
it wasn?t easy, thanks to sound problems that also sandbagged their opening act,
three5human. talented lead singer trina meade?s vocals didn?t make it off stage,
which left listeners puzzled but enjoying the great beat of their hard-driving
rock and roll.

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date:         wed, 15 jun 2005 12:17:31 edt
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i was there.  (in the front row, of course!)  twas a saturday  night, if i
remember correctly, followed by a sunday afternoon.  lovely  place for a show,
but the high stage (taller than i am!) does suck.

lauren


mandy wrote:

my first  concert was actually ig - here i'm showing nto so
much my age as my utter  lack of exposure to live music in
childhood, because this was was the  summer after i graduated
from high school. it was the july 5th, 1997 show  at the greek
theatre in berkeley, and i didn't yet know enough about,  well,
anything to go back the next day; instead, i spent that day
with  the guy i was then angling to date. oh, the foolishness
of  youth....

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date:         wed, 15 jun 2005 11:57:34 -0500
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> mine was the grateful dead at red rocks in 1978.

mine was hall and oates in 1985 at the indiana state fair. :)

- rick c. hodgin

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date:         wed, 15 jun 2005 10:27:41 -0700
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barbara sanders wrote:

--the flying burrito brothers (anyone remember them?)

yep, the burrito brothers, ozark mountain daredevils,
brewer & shipley, and journey were regular opening
acts for many concerts i saw during the mid-70's.

my first concert was in the summer of 1972 at jeppesen
stadium (now roberts' stadium) at the university of
houston.

commander cody and the lost planet airmen along with
the eagles, opened for the allman brothers.

the first song of my first concert was "fuckin' and
truckin'" by commander cody...

tony aka "da chickenman"

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date:         wed, 15 jun 2005 12:09:30 -0700
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anyone hammered them out?  it sounds like maybe it's
an easy song to play...

vicki

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i've got everyone beat with respect to embarrassment:
peaches and herb...1979.

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to tell you the truth i had 2 first concerts - the concert that my parents knew about and the concert they didn't know about.
the one they knew about was - frankie avalon and the 4 seasons and the one they didn't know about was aerosmith and kiss.

that was in the early 70's about 1972.  there was another one they didn't know about and that was peter frampton in 1975 or 1977.

i started going to concerts early - when i was 10 - 12 years old and never went with parents but usually got in somehow.  i've always been so driven by music that it was hard to stop me.

my first indigo girl show was in the boston area when they opened for neil young - but i already had a bootleg of one of their chapel hill shows so i was following them pretty early as i had atlanta connections!

peace,
mary

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arghh...1st concert w/ parents: bobby sherman.
2nd w/parents: jackson 5.

1st real concert w/friend(s): rolling stones,  1975

longest traveled: seattle to billings mt 9/30/2000 for honor the earth.
it was divine.

most disappointing: eagles/linda ronstadt (bad sound, worse venue).

longest waited for: simon & garfunkel, 2003 or 2004.

best non-ig crowd experience: bruce sprinsteen & the e st band, 2000.

most fashionably dressed crowd: tina turner.

best venue: the pier, seattle wa

worst venue: the gorge, george wa.

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date:         wed, 15 jun 2005 23:23:59 -0400
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well i went to hampton beach, nh & hyannis, ma & northampton, ma &=20
burlington, vt. definitely burlington was the best of the four.=20
it was like at last on tuesday in burlington i found that longed for=20
energy. what was *up* with the northampton crowd on sunday? i convinced a=
=20
friend from upstate ny to meet us in northampton based soley on the shows i=
=20
saw at that theatre the past two summers. i told her "all us lesbians are=
=20
out in full force and the girls play a rocking good show! they love to be i=
n=20
northampton! they play old school favorites and it kicks a**!" well, suffic=
e=20
it to say my friend just thinks i'm a big liar now. those people were glued=
=20
to their seats. but it's not just that. i mean, in burlington they were=20
somewhat glued to their seats too but at least they had energy flowing! plu=
s=20
in burlington they did stand for ctf (but couldn't stay up for shame on you=
=20
immediately after...) and stood for the encore -- both songs, let it ring=
=20
and galileo. good job, burlington!=20
anyway, some of the high points for me were: i love the "girls play here"=
=20
tank top i bought, i loved hearing ozilline and let me go easy multiple=20
times. i *like* those songs. they talked about the rarities album each show=
.=20
at burlington, their wonderful chatty energy show, after winthrop, amy and=
=20
the guitars came back onstage. as they were getting situated, emily talked=
=20
about it for a while, "we have a new album=20
out...rarities...compilations...live tracks..." etc. then she said, "it's o=
n=20
sale out in the lobby. and, that's the end of that." at first i thought -=
=20
the end of talking about the album? the end of playing songs from it? (as=
=20
they had played let me go easy as well by this point). amy, too, was=20
apparently confused, as she said, "the end of what?" emily said, "the end o=
f=20
our contract with epic." amy was like, "oh, that! yeah. that's over. that's=
=20
a whole other story." and emily said, "a long ass story..." maybe i'm=20
confusing which one said "long ass" and which said "whole other" but anyway=
=20
it was funny.=20
emily also jokingly referred to herself as a "fuckin' hippie" after=20
winthrop. man, they were in such good moods in burlington. amy sang the=20
praises of burlington, its chill attitude, its bike path, etc. and the best=
=20
best best part, which has now become my top indigo concert moment of all=20
time, was when someone shouted out something, i think the title of an ac/dc=
=20
song (like, as a request, ha ha) and emily said, "hey, tomi [three5human=20
guy] just taught me that riff" and then she did her imitation of said riff,=
=20
with a "baumchikabaumbaum" type sound, the fingering, etc., totally into it=
.=20
that would have been fun enough but she proceeded to say, "y'all, i saw the=
m=20
live. i was like..." and then she did the whole metal headbanger index=20
finger/pinkie finger thing and totally rocked forward and back demonstratin=
g=20
her headbanging prowess and concluded, "it was awesome!" holy cow.=20
brilliant! i also think it may have been the most animated i have seen emil=
y=20
ever. i loved it.=20
so...yeah. i agree that three 5 human is a great band; i like their=20
political style and their energy and their groove. trina was great doing he=
r=20
part in closer to fine. she sang, "i was cloudy as i'd been the night=20
before" in hampton beach and hyannis but then in northampton and burlington=
=20
sang, "i was twice as cloudy..." and did a hand sign of "2" (looks like=20
'peace') to emily at that point as if to say, "i got the lyrics right."=20
someone requested world falls in northampton and amy said, "that's a good=
=20
idea. burlington!" and they did make good on that promise, which thrilled=
=20
me. they also played kid fears and prince of darkness in burlington. trina=
=20
meade reappeared to sing the michael stipe part on kid fears and it was=20
amazing.=20
the only setlist i wrote down was friday's hampton beach casino ballroom.=
=20
also it is misleading the way the saturday hyannis show setlist at cape cod=
=20
melody tent is listed on the site. land of canaan and vwoolf were part of=
=20
the "regular show" -- i think it was going into vw that they said normally=
=20
after this we'd leave and come back but we won't, etc.=20
anyway, here is friday hampton beach in order:=20
hammer & a nail
ozilline
fill it up again
joking
power of two
dairy queen (sang "just enough of me in you" with a smile)=20
let it be me ("strain of the comman woman", sung with lyric that way in=20
northampton also)=20
faye tucker
get out the map
reunion
winthrop
driver education
closer to fine
devotion
cold beer and remote control
yield
least complicated
shame on you
virginia woolf
encore: land of canaan
galileo
*******************
good times,=20
~linda~
whose first concert was beach boys (with the family)
alone with friends: tiffany (cringe)=20
"real" alone with friends, the next year: depeche mode with erasure opening


on 6/15/05, rgcs1123@aol.com <rgcs1123@aol.com> wrote:=20
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"if the world is night, shine my life like a light..."=20
-- indigo girls 'let it be me' by emily saliers

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dreiser <moondust@gate.net> wrote:

>my first concert was john denver as well - milwaukee arena, 1974. i had just

--one of my best friends saw him about a year or two later. even got to go backstage to meet him, as her dad was a session musician in the area we lived in at the time, and he was well-connected.

my parents saw him a few years' later. i didn't mind him, but lost interest by the time they saw him.

lorna

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reunion, devotion and land of canaan in the same set(!)
good times, indeed!


on wed, 15 jun 2005, linda napikoski wrote:
>  anyway, here is friday hampton beach in order:
> hammer & a nail
> ozilline
> fill it up again
> joking
> power of two
> dairy queen (sang "just enough of me in you" with a smile)
> let it be me ("strain of the comman woman", sung with lyric that way in
> northampton also)
> faye tucker
> get out the map
> reunion
> winthrop
> driver education
> closer to fine
> devotion
> cold beer and remote control
> yield
> least complicated
> shame on you
> virginia woolf
>  encore: land of canaan
> galileo
>  *******************
> good times,
>  ~linda~


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hey folks,

here's an article from the binghamton press & sun-bulletin in ny...
you can read it online at:
http://www.pressconnects.com/entertainment/stories/061605s173100.shtml

cheers,
sherlyn

---begin forwarded article---
indigo girls tell their fans: 'this one's for you'
jc-bound duo solicits suggestions for new cd
by sarah d'esti miller
press & sun-bulletin

rarities, the latest release from the indigo girls, targets one group
in particular: the duo's fans. it is a luxury amy ray and emily
saliers can indulge in, since their eight studio cds have sold
multiple millions of copies.

"it's not for people who haven't heard us before, because they're
going to be like, who cares about this, but someone who likes us
already might go, 'oh, i see why they did this later'," ray said of
the cd, the indigo girls' last for epic records.

"it was sort of like an idea where epic said to us, 'will you do one
more record that's kind of your choosing but a collection of bootlegs
or b sides or whatever?' and so we were like, let's do something
that's oriented to our fans, to people who already know our music."

"we sent out an e-mail and said, 'do you all have any ideas and what
would you like to see on this?' we took those ideas ... and considered
the things we thought were cool, and we just put together this
collection of collaborations that we have done and different benefit
records or tribute albums we have done, live recordings and previously
unreleased songs. it's just supposed to be fun."

well, it wasn't exactly all fun. ray and saliers, both 41, have been
making music since the early '80s. their self-titled epic release in
1989 was in time to enjoy the success and popularity of other folk
rock artists such as tracy chapman and 10,000 maniacs. the duo amassed
a vast catalog of material.

"it was a lot of work. what we whittled it down to seems really easy
to pick, but we actually went through all of our early recordings and
stuff and practice tapes and live tapes and so went through a lot of
hours of music to come to the conclusion that a lot of stuff from
early on we didn't want to use," ray said.

like cleaning out your musical junk drawer?

"yeah, exactly. but it's definitely not a full-on album project where
we write and everything for it. putting a record like this out is an
odd feeling because it's something you have already done. it's hard to
figure out how you promote it."

ray said she enjoys performing covers of songs she really likes.
favorites on rarities include the clash's clampdown ("the arrangement
is a little odd but i love that song so much.") and the grateful
dead's uncle john's band. of the latter, ray said: "we recorded it
with this amazing harmony folk rock group from l.a. called show of
hands, which sort of came and went. but they were amazing and they
really influenced us ... and this recording is the thing i have to
remember it by so it's really special to me."

saliers and ray are fortunate to count many fellow musicians among
their fans. over the years, guest musicians on indigo girls albums
have included rem's michael stipe, the band's garth hudson, luscious
jackson's kate schellenbach, ani difranco, david crosby, jackson
brown, sheryl crow, joan osborne, me'shell ndegeocello and others. but
however much they admire other musicians and their work, the indigo
girls are all about the songs -- their songs.

"we write separately. it's either one or the other," ray said of the
technique which often results in two distinguishable styles. (ray's
songs are harder edged; saliers' are more lyrical.)

"we may give suggestions to each other if we are asked, but pretty
much the person writes the song and we get together to practice and
then the duo stuff happens. the collaboration is on the arrangement.
it becomes a different song after we fiddle with it."

the indigo girls are now at a turning point. with their epic contract
about to expire, the question is what will they do next?

"we don't know. we probably should know, but we don't," ray said with
a laugh. "we're planning to record in the winter, and we are shooting
for that regardless of where we stand business-wise. so we'll record a
record. whether or not we are on a label or put it out ourselves or
whatever happens, we don't really know.

"but we know that we have to write songs, and that's what we do. it's
a great job."

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i just heard a commercial for steve earle's show "the revolution starts now" on aar.  his guest this sunday will be amy ray of indigo girls.  the show is 10-11 pm et (north american time).

i have been listening via stream because i don't live in the following cities ( http://www.airamericaradio.com/ ):

west
albany/corvallis, or - kthh 990 am
albuquerque, nm - kabq 1350 am
albuquerque-santa fe, nm - kkit 1340 am
denver, co - kkzn 760 am
eugene, or - kopt 1600 am
los angeles, ca - ktlk 1150 am
phoenix, az - kxxt 1010 am
portland, or - kpoj 620 am
reno, nv - kjfk 1230 am
riverside, ca - kcaa 1050 am
sacramento, ca - ksac 1240 am
santa barbara, ca - kist 1340 am
san diego, ca - 1360 am klsd
san luis obispo, ca - 1340 am kyns
san francisco, ca - 960 am kqke
santa fe, nm - kvsf 1400 am
seattle, wa - 1090 am kptk
south lake tahoe, nv - ktho 590 am
spokane, wa - kptq 1280 am

central
akron, oh - wjmp 1520 am
ann arbor, mi - wlby 1290 am
austin, tx - koke 1600 am
chicago, il - wcpt 850 am
cincinnati, oh - wcky 1530 am
cleveland, oh - wtam 1100 am
columbus, oh - wtpg 1230 am
corpus christi, tx - kcct 1150 am
dallas, tx - kxeb 910 am
davenport, ia - wkbf 1270 am
detroit, mi - wdtw 1310 am
madison, wi - wxxm 92.1 fm
memphis, tn - wwtq 680 am
minneapolis, mn - ktnf 950 am
minneapolis-st. paul, mn - wwwi 1270 am
petoskey, mi - wwkk 750 am
san antonio, tx - krpt 92.5 fm
youngstown, oh - wanr 'the pulse' 1570 am

east
asheville, nc - wpek 880 am
atlanta, ga - wwaa 1690 am
binghamton, ny - talk 1360 am
boston, ma - wkox 1200 am and wxks 1430 am
brattleboro, vt - wkvt 1490 am
chapel hill, nc - wchl 1360 am
charleston, sc - wltq 730 am
columbia, sc - woic 1230 am
key west, fl - wkiz 1500 am
miami, fl - winz 940 am
new haven, ct - wavz 1300 am
new york city - wlib 1190 am
northampton, ma - whmp 1400 am
philadelphia, pa - what 1340 am
plattsburgh, ny/burlington, vt - wtwk 1070 am
portland, me - wlvp 870 am
poughkeepsie, ny - wkze 1020 am
providence, ri - whjj 920 am
rochester, ny - wroc 950 am
washington d.c. - wwrc 1260 am
west palm beach, fl - wjno 1290 am

alaska and hawaii
anchorage, ak - kudo 1080 am
honolulu, hi - kumu 1500 am
kauai, hi - kqng 570 am
maui, hi - kaoi 1110 am

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hey everyone,

i picked up a copy of seven days while i was in vt for the show on tuesday.
low and behold there was an interview with emily, which had quite a bit of
interesting info.  sounds like the pitter-patter of a baby indigo might be
in the future.  :)

take care and peace!

deb

mood indigo
music preview: the indigo girls

by eesha williams
(06.08.05)

who says you can't make a big noise with acoustic guitars? definitely not
the indigo girls. the folk-rock duo has delivered socially conscious,
spiritually minded tunes since taking the singer-songwriter scene by storm
back in '89. featuring the very different yet highly compatible songwriting
styles of emily saliers and amy ray, the grammy-winning group has sold more
than two million records. but it isn't fame or money that motivates them; at
heart, they're still humble folkies. on june 14 -- which is also the release
date of their latest cd, rarities -- the indigo girls perform on the flynn
mainstage in burlington.

while the indigo girls' music boasts beautiful harmonies and subtle nuances,
they still know how to rock. and so do their die-hard fans: the band's
concerts often become sing-alongs, with audiences vibing off the duo's
catchy hooks as well as their message. and they definitely have plenty to
say -- lyrics from one of their most popular songs relates to the abenaki
tribe's struggles to gain government recognition. "i left my anger in a
river, running highway 5 / new hampshire, vermont borderline ... i used to
search for reservations and native lands / before i realized everywhere i
stand there have been tribal feet running wild as fire," they passionately
sing.

over the years, saliers and ray have experimented with their sound,
occasionally employing a drummer and bass player. but they're capable of
putting on a riveting performance with or without a backing band. on this
tour, they get back to their acoustic roots.

saliers and ray both make their homes in georgia. but during a recent
conversation with saliers, seven days discovered that she spends most
christmases at her family's home near white river junction.


seven days: nuclear power and vermont yankee have been in the news a lot
lately. i know you have worked with native american activist wynona laduke
on nuclear waste issues.
emily saliers: the nuclear power industry needs to be shut down. all the
proposals for nuclear waste dumps are on native lands. amy and i have been
intimately involved with that issue for a long time. proponents of nuclear
power like to promote it as clean energy. it's beyond my comprehension how
anyone can buy that. nuclear waste can't be contained; it's deadly and it
lives for 250,000 years. the government needs to spend much more money on
solar and wind power.

sd: according to the national priorities project, the u.s. now spends almost
a trillion dollars a year, or half the entire federal budget, on the
military. if you were president, how much would you spend on the military?
es: i can't break it down in terms of numbers for you. but i certainly would
not be going to war in iraq. our government spends a ridiculous amount of
money on the military to protect our access to fossil fuels. when a country
tries to dominate the world, it can't last. that's history.

sd: why do you think there's never been a female president?
es: because we live in a sexist society, and a largely sexist world, that
doubts the power and effectiveness of women in leadership roles. there are
many men who want to keep the power structure the way it is. i don't think
there will be [a female president] in 2008. maybe in 2012.

sd: speaking of effective ... do you write your lyrics sitting down at a
table with pen and paper, or do they just pop into your head at random
moments?
es: sometimes a thought will come to my mind and i go and write down just a
sentence or an image that strikes me. that's sort of new for me. i used to
just be inspired all the time and write a gazillion songs. now, for whatever
reason, it's more difficult. it's become more of a discipline. i spend time
practically every day in a little studio room at home, working on songs.
typically, i pick up an acoustic guitar and work out a chord progression.
then i spit out some words, a lot of it gibberish. i try to get a feel for
it as the music and lyrics marry. then i edit the lyrics. the lyrics are the
hardest part for me.

sd: have you ever had a song's lyrics appear as "whole cloth," and end up
that way on the record?
es: "power of two" was kind of written like that.

sd: your new album, rarities, is your last for sony, your record company
since 1988. what's next?
es: it was a long relationship. it's time for something different. it seemed
like there wasn't the same interest in promoting our music as there was
before. now it's corporate controlled -- nasty. we're planning on making a
new record early next year. it's just a matter of deciding, do we want to do
it completely on our own? or do we want to sign with a small label?

sd: what advice would you give to a young band that has an offer from a
major label?
es: it depends on the contract. there's a lot of major-label deals that
don't do anything for artists. there are others that do. the band has to be
savvy. but for the most part, major-label deals do not benefit a band.

sd: tell me what a typical day on tour is like for you.
es: every day is pretty similar. after we play the show, we get on the bus
and we drive through the night to the next town. we get to the hotel in the
morning. everybody stumbles into their room and goes to sleep. when we wake
up, it's time to work out in the gym. that's important for me and amy. we
dedicate two hours every day for exercise. then we do interviews, or catch
up with our email. then we do a sound check for that night's show. we
practice some songs. then we eat dinner together and write a set list [of
the songs we will play] every night. then we have some quiet time apart from
each other, just to chill. then the opening act -- who we handpick -- plays.
typically, we'll play a song with them. then we play the show. we do that
three, four or five nights a week.

sd: are you going to keep doing that indefinitely?
es: i don't know about indefinitely. but there's no end in sight. amy would
like to have kids. she'll have to set aside some time for that. but as long
as we're still welcome out there, we'll be touring. we don't want to
overstay our welcome.

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"showing my age ( and that i was a dork..) bay city rollers, andy gibb, =
and shaun cassidy boston garden 1977, at the time it was called "the =
christmas concert" it has since evolved into the "kiss 108 concert""

oh janet!  i so so so wanted to be at that concert.  i remember being so =
pissed at my parents because they wouldn't even let me call mike adams =
at wrko to try to win tickets cause they would have to have driven me to =
boston from the cape. too funny.  i was going to marry les.  i also had =
wanted to meet mike adams because he was "friends" with bcr.

my first concert was marshall tucker band at the melody tent in hyannis. =
my first ig was at the paradise on march 1, 2002, right after the =
patriots had won the super bowl.  i've seen them probably a dozen times =
since then :)

my children have been on stage and sang /rick springfield.  that was =
pretty cool for me.  i remember finally meeting him and having our =
picture taken together with arms around eachother and thinking...wow  =
he's real!  he's even got ribs!  too funny!  now if i only can get the =
chance to meet amy & emily....

jen

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hello there,
i was wondering if anyone out there could make me a copy of jesus christ superstar.  my fiance is doing a project for her honors class and the video would really help.  i would need it as soon as possible.  i will, of course, send money for a videotape and/or videotape with self addressed postage envelope back.

thanks,
heather


you have to laugh at yourself because
you'd cry your eyes out if you didn't
-emily saliers

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--- on fri 06/17, jen cattin < jencattin@comcast.net > wrote:

my children have been on stage and sang /rick springfield.

my first concert was rick springfield and last year i got to do the be on stage and sing with rick thing and it was cool! my 12 year old self can die happy now! :)

dee:)

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that's funny.  i had a jr. high crush on rick, aka dr. noah  drake.

i actually saw him live when i was 15, in the early 80s.  i hadn't  seen many
shows at that point.  saw him again in 1993.  he was still  cute, but having
seen 200 other concerts, i was not terribly impressed.

lauren

my children have been on stage and sang /rick springfield.  that was  pretty
cool for me.  i remember finally meeting him and having our picture  taken
together with arms around eachother and thinking...wow  he's  real!  he's even
got ribs!  too funny!  now if i only can get the  chance to meet amy & emily....

jen

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hey folks,

i don't really know anything about jennifer berezan, but apparently
emily appears on her new album "end of desire".  bruce cockburn and a
bunch of others also appear.

here's where i found the info:
http://buymusichere.net/rel/v2_viewupc.php?storenr=3d53&upc=3deow18cd0000

cheers,
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hey folks,

here's an article from the richmond times-dispatch - you can read it
online at (long url, needs to be all on one line):
http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/satellite?pagename=3drtd/mgarticle/
rtd_basicarticle&c=3dmgarticle&cid=3d1031783338038

in their music section they've also got an interview with sonia of
disappear fear from last week, if you want to check that out.

cheers,
sherlyn

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indigo girls still about good music
by melissa ruggieri
times-dispatch staff writer
friday, june 17, 2005


in concert
who: indigo girls with arts and sciences at: innsbrook after hours, 6
p.m. wednesday tickets: $10 and $35 info: (804) 794-6700 or www.
innsbrookafterhours.com

things like extensive radio play and multi-platinum albums have never
been mandatory for the indigo girls to survive.

theirs isn't fashionable music in the splashed-all-over-vh1 sense -
assuming it's the day that vh1 is playing videos - and the biggest hit
they've had came in 1989 with the smart, hummable "closer to fine."
and even that one didn't crack the top 40.

still, for 18 years, the georgia-based duo of amy ray (the
rugged-voiced one) and emily saliers (the honey-toned one) have
cobbled together a career built on gorgeous folk-pop songs - "power of
two," "galileo," "least complicated," "kid fears," "ghost," just a
sampling of their prolific output.

the girls' activism, particularly within the american indian
community, is another selling point to their fans, who tend toward the
passionate.

but it's always their music - laden with the struggles, realities and
fears of love, but just as often inspired by their anger at various
injustices - that has maintained their viable presence in an industry
usually concerned with only the bottom line.

on the eve of their summer tour, which finds the twosome performing
acoustic without a band, saliers phoned in from her home in atlanta
for some updates.

up for discussion: the girls' "rarities" album, which arrived this
week. it offers a two-decade glimpse into their favorite covers and
their songwriting, including a 1986 version of "never stop," their
1991 version of "uncle john's band," previously found on a grateful
dead tribute album, and the michael stipe collaboration "i'll give you
my skin."

the sweet and chatty saliers also talked about the book she wrote with
her father last year, her impending solo album and the future of the
indigo girls, now that they've released their final record for epic,
their recording home since 1987.

q. why now for a rarities album?

a. it was our last contractual thing for epic, and they wanted us to
do it. once we agreed to it, we put our heart and thought into it and
tried to decide what would be cool to include and asked fans for their
picks. it was challenging, picking through stuff. thankfully, amy and
i had a meeting of the minds on what we chose.

q. what happened with epic?

a. we felt like it was really time for a change. we realized we were
at a juncture in our career, and the label isn't the same place it was
in 1988.

q. so what is the immediate plan? are you looking for a new label or
think you might go the independent route?

a. we might totally do it on our own or sign with a smaller label. our
manager is in the process of putting feelers out. we'll look at it all
and see what is the most creative option.

q. what do you think still drives the two of you after being in this
business for 20 years? do you think it has something to do with
splintering off to do other things every now and then?

a. absolutely. it's like a good marriage. amy just finished a second
[solo] record; i'm going to do a solo album. when we come together, it
feels fresh.

q. do you hang out often when your careers aren't involved?

a. she also lives in georgia - in the woods - and we have some mutual
friends and will see each other at mutual gatherings, but otherwise
not really. but when we're on the road, we see so much of each other.

q. on this "rarities" album, you have a version of elton john's "mona
lisas and mad hatters." interesting choice.

a. it was the no. 1 fan request for rarities. we had been playing it
in the bars years and years ago, so it was a no-brainer. but we had to
find a performance that we liked, and we didn't, so we started playing
it live the past year and took the recording from one of those nights.

q. what prompted you to write a book last year? [saliers and her
minister father, don, released "a song to sing, a life to live:
reflections on music as spiritual practice" in november.]

a. my dad is a professor of theology and asked me to participate in
this book about spiritual paths, honoring the body and music. we
worked on that with teenage writers, a book called 'way to live,' a
christian thing for teens, which was cool. and out of that came this
book.

q. how difficult a process was it for you? i would think you and your
dad disagree on certain topics.

a. i was very clear about my ambivalence about the church with my dad
and was able to get to that other side, about a father/daughter
relationship. it started out easy - some conversations over coffee.
after that, trying to hone the ideas and write in two voices was a
challenge. i would write certain sections and they were inserted. . .
. amazon.com has it, and other big chains can order it. we've done
several book signings and programs where he and i play music together.
it's time spent with my father, which is great. we come from different
worlds and perspectives, but that's ok.

q. has your dad always been supportive of your desire to pursue music?

a. both my mom and my dad. my grandfather was a professional touring
musician in the big-band era, and i was always banging away on a snare
drum or something.

q. what activist things have you and amy been involved in recently?

a. we're still working with honor the earth, and typically do at least
one show a year for them. this year we're going to do a few shows
highlighting solar and wind power - specifically, putting wind power
on native land because so much indian land has been desecrated in the
search for fossil fuel.

q. tell me about this solo album you're working on.

a. i've been working on the timing based on our schedule. i want it to
be more beat-oriented, to have a groove to it, sort of organic
instruments with a groove.

q. so not as loud as amy's solo stuff?

a. i wish i could write as rocking as amy does!

q. so what's next for the girls? are you just waiting to see how the
record label situation pans out?

a. we do have a plan, and it's to find a way to get the music out
there. i feel so blessed with our fans, but people still have to know
that your stuff is out there. we plan to start a new record at the
beginning of the year, probably february. amy is going to tour behind
her record in the fall, but we will continue.


contact melissa ruggieri at (804) 649-6120 or
mruggieri@timesdispatch.com

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date:         fri, 17 jun 2005 18:22:36 -0700
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at 04:31 pm 06/17/2005, sherlyn koo wrote:
>
>  i don't really know anything about jennifer berezan, but
>  apparently emily appears on her new album "end of desire".

jennifer is an old musician friend of mine, originally from
canada but has lived in the sf bay area for a *long* time,
i've seen her for about ten years, she knows me well.

besides playing music, she leads seminars/workshops for
women, and has recorded in the *oldest* known human room,
you can read more about her at
     (http://www.edgeofwonder.com/)

i recommend her music.

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date:         sat, 18 jun 2005 03:35:51 -0400
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dee yellowlees <tomboy1969@excite.com> wrote:

>
>
>my first concert was rick springfield and last year i got to do the be on stage and sing with rick thing and it was cool! my 12 year old self can die happy now! :)
>

--i have to admit i saw him 5 years' ago. ;-d my rick-fan-friends demanded that i see him. they had me convinced that he puts on a damn good show--better than some other really famous hard-rockers i've seen in my past, whom shall remain nameless. ;-) no, i didn't get to come up on stage.

of course, amy and emily put on damn good shows, too--the 2 times i saw them certainly were. ;-)

lorna

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funny there seems to be rick springfield common denominator.....i saw rick 4 times ( it was in the 80's) and if memory serves he was great! he is so very cute. last summer my gf won front row tixs for sting at great woods ( or whatever corporate name it is now) it was the first time i ever sat front row there and even though i am not a big sting fan he is so unbelievablely cute i couldn't stand it.


take care,

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> "showing my age ( and that i was a dork..) bay city rollers, andy gibb, and
> shaun cassidy boston garden 1977, at the time it was called "the christmas
> concert" it has since evolved into the "kiss 108 concert""
>
> oh janet! i so so so wanted to be at that concert. i remember being so pissed
> at my parents because they wouldn't even let me call mike adams at wrko to try
> to win tickets cause they would have to have driven me to boston from the cape.
> too funny. i was going to marry les. i also had wanted to meet mike adams
> because he was "friends" with bcr.
>
> my first concert was marshall tucker band at the melody tent in hyannis. my
> first ig was at the paradise on march 1, 2002, right after the patriots had won
> the super bowl. i've seen them probably a dozen times since then :)
>
> my children have been on stage and sang /rick springfield. that was pretty cool
> for me. i remember finally meeting him and having our picture taken together
> with arms around eachother and thinking...wow he's real! he's even got ribs!
> too funny! now if i only can get the chance to meet amy & emily....
>
> jen
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date:         sat, 18 jun 2005 08:30:50 -0700
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since a+e have finished their contract with epic and say they're
looking at returning to the studio early next year to start their next
project, i've kind of been daydreaming about what it could be.

for example, they decide on 13 tracks, and then find 13 different guest
artists to come in and work with them, kinda like michael stipe did for
a few songs.  anyway, 13 tracks, 13 original ig songs with guest
artists...  and then, include a bonus cd of each of the guest artists
covering an ig tune from the back catalog.  ig does covers all the
time, but i'd love to hear them covered more often...

anyway, it'd be a great way to perhaps launch a new label for the
girls' next release, drawing not only ig fans to the purchase, but also
potentially fans of all the guest artists, maybe even luring some into
ig.  :)

another thought is that pearl jam is in the same position as ig...
they've just completed their contract, and are recording a new album,
and aren't sure how they're going to release it.  maybe pj and ig
should have a conversation?

just a thought or two...

-graham

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date:         sat, 18 jun 2005 11:22:18 -0700
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i forgot to mention my suggestion for who i'd like to see ig work with.

the polyphonic spree.

-graham

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my copy of rarities arrived today.  for the most part, i'm enjoying it, but i
could do without ever having heard the demo version of ghost.  the drum track
was annoying from the start, and combined with the crazy key change and amy's
whacked harmonies (in places), i can barely stand to listen to it, knowing that
the beauty we have on rop could have been this disaster.

i like the electronic stuff on free in you, but it doesn't really match the song
very well.  the jam out at the end of cold as ice rocks.  i already really liked
that song, and now i like it even more.  findlandia sounds like a fantastic
organ, only it's just voices.  ahhhhh.....

there are a surprising number of songs that i've never heard, which is nice,
becaue it makes it more of a rarities album for me than it could have been.
sure, there are a lot of songs that i wish they would have put on this cd, but
i'm pleased with it.

anna

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date:         sun, 19 jun 2005 20:14:27 -0700
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> i recognize most of the photos from various album covers, but not
> all of
> them.  love the shot of the two of them in bunk beds!  what is
> "radio box -
> a retrospective"?  is that a promo cd or something not generally
> available?

seems like the photo collage has a lot of design comps for album
covers. i suspect that the "radio box" cover was just an alternate
design for the album we now know as "retrospective." most of the
collage goes along with that theme since there are a bunch of pms
color call outs and it looks like some alternative covers to 1200
curfews.

as for the album, thank you to all who posted their comments.

just my quick thoughts...

free in you - i'm psyched to have this on the cd, if for no other
reason than to celebrate what will hopefully not happen with ig's new
record label. it would have been highly amusing had this actually
gotten radio play. i'd love to hear this right after some kelly
clarkson... :)

ramblin' round - very nice treat.

and point hope is a remarkable song.... probably the most surprising
for me on the disc.

and i didn't see this mentioned, but i loved amy and emily's comments
about picking each song for this collection. this might be the "easy
way out" of epic, but i for one am happy to have this amongst the
shuffle.

-katerw

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yikes, amazon gave ig kind of a harsh review of rarities. check it out:


editorial reviews
amazon.com
have the indigo girls hit the doldrums?  their concerts of late often prove
to not only be lackluster, but dated, as  singer/songwriter/guitarists amy ray
and emily saliers veer dangerously close to  seeming more like relics than
icons. part of that stems from their reliance on  familiar material, as if their
writing has slowed to a trickle. now comes more  suggestion of that in
rarities, an album made up of leftovers, odds and  ends, demos, other previously
unreleased material, and contributions to side  albums. the good news is that
there is much here to enjoy, all of it wrapped in  the girls' trademark
corduroy-and-silk harmonies. their demo version of "ghost"  is fraught with fevered
longing, a remix of "shed your skin" delights with its  swirling, hypnotic
soundscape, and the cameos by _michael stipe_
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/artist/glance/-/40597/104-8819177-0901547)   ("i'll give you my skin")
and _ani difranco_
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/artist/glance/-/87148/104-8819177-0901547)   ("ramblin' round") resonate with artistry and
star power. but the 18-song album  bloats with less-than-sparkling cuts (for
example, a cacophonous rendering of _vic chesnutt_
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/artist/glance/-/58379/104-8819177-0901547) 's "free of hope,"
two early and undistinguished songs from both  emily and amy, and a
techno-meets-country remix of "free in you"). in the end,  this is more a collector's
disc than a window on the duo's "rarest" moments.  --alanna nash


_http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/b0009maows/qid=1119239095/sr=8-
1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-8819177-0901547?v=glance&s=music&n=507846_
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/b0009maows/qid=1119239095/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/1
04-8819177-0901547?v=glance&s=music&n=507846)

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hey folks,

on sun, 19 jun 2005 20:14:27 -0700, kate ranson-walsh wrote:
> and i didn't see this mentioned, but i loved amy and emily's
> comments about picking each song for this collection. this might be
> the "easy way out" of epic, but i for one am happy to have this
> amongst the shuffle.

well, i'm still waiting to get my copy of "rarities" from amazon, but
in the meantime i've been thinking about the comment from - i think it
was emily? - in a recent interview about how the collection was
actually epic's idea.  sure, it may seem to us like kind of an easy
way for a&e to round out their contract, but my guess is that epic
probably didn't want to pay for studio time either.  but then again,
i'm completely speculating so what do i know... :)

and i was also wondering - from the point of view of someone who
doesn't really know all that much about how the business works - about
what size label a&e might be looking at next.  given that they've got
their own management and tour booking company, what more do they need
from a record company?  money?  promotion?  distribution?  what else
do record companies do?

:)
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quoting sherlyn koo <sherlyn@pixelopolis.com>:

> given that they've got
> their own management and tour booking company, what more do they need
> from a record company?  money?  promotion?  distribution?  what else
> do record companies do?

you've got most of it covered right there.  record companies front the money to
cover the cost of recording, engineering, and mastering a cd ($20k - $1m,
depending on how fancy), as well as the cost of pressing and packaging.  they
also provide established distribution routes and promote the cd.  they take the
cost of all of this out of any profits until it is paid, so it will take some
time before an artist earns anything off of a cd.  musicians make most of their
money from touring, but eventually they'll get some royalties from the cd if it
is popular enough to sell enough to pay back what they owe the record label.

anna

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re: record companies

i heard an interview with aimee mann a year or so ago when she said that the record company told them the record/tour that "voices carry" was on when she was with 'til tuesday never recouped it's cost...
however on her last self-released cd/tour she made approx $2 million...

once you have a semi-established name you can usually make more on your own....instead of paying for some record company guys porshe....

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not only do we get a new cd, but we got some birthdays too! *heh*

june 20
wowiejdm@aol.com

june 20
one bug (lori)
<onebug@hotmail.com>

june 22 (77)
kas28024@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (kim shaver)
"i think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long.
if we're in each other's dreams, we can play together all night."
-calvin and hobbes

june 23
nyka670@aol.com (mary)

june 25 (78)
ablipman@asa.upenn.edu
ablipman@worldspy.net (andi)
"the prize is always worth the rocky ride

june 25, 1974
chee (pinechee@yahoo.com)
"lick my legs, i'm on fire"

june 26 ('77)
ae-johnson@nwu.edu (amanda johnson)


have a blast folks! *mwah*

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anyone know how many units atwli sold? did sony recoup the costs of making
the last 3 cd's (excluding "rarities)?
isn't a group like ig with a loyal fan base worth signing?
just curious,
l.

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i'm cleaning out my bootleg collection and narrowing it down to stuff i actually
listen to anymore. i have a bunch of shows that i don't want to keep, and i'll
be happy to send them to anyone who wants them.  setlists are available at
http://db.etree.org.

all night honky tonk all stars - 12/13/02 - the fox theater
ani difranco, gillian welch, and greg brown - 03/08/00 - oscar meyer theatre
deb talan - 06/07/01 - club passim
high on the hog - 09/13/03 - planet bluegrass
hit and run bluegrass - 07/25/03 - rockygrass
jess klein - 05/16/01 - rudyard kipling house
kris delmhorst - 03/09/02 - blue moon coffeehouse
reeltime travelers - 09/13/03 - planet bluegrass
steve tannen - 03/06/02 - stuyvesant hall at ohio wesleyan university
uncle earl - 07/23/04 - rockygrass - planet bluegrass ranch
the wayfarers - 09/13/03 - planet bluegrass
yonder mountain string band - 09/12/03 - planet bluegrass ranch

anna

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if you want to know how the music "industry" works, i recommend reading janis ian's
excellent website at www.janisian.com.  the front page of the site is a six-part article
on making an independent cd. there are also her columns from performing songwriter
magazine, such as "ethics in the music industry" http://www.janisian.com/article-
ethics.html also her insightful articles on the internet and the music business, "the
internet debacle" http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html and "fallout"
http://www.janisian.com/article-fallout.html

i hope this is useful...

henry troup
ottawa, ontario

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speaking of major record companies, i met a girl once who told me that her old live in boyfriend went to work for a major record label in los angeles as an accountant. she told me that after one, two days, he came home just disgusted. she would ask what was wrong and he would reply that he would find amounts of money that recording artists were owed and his bosses told him to hide the money from the artists. all day, he would be told and be taught how to not to pay the singers, songwriters, producers, etc. so the record company could keept it all.

true story.

i'm hoping amy and emily either start their own label just for their releases or they at least sign with a reputable, honest, fair record company that will pay them what they deserve. acts like the eagles, natalie merchant and maria mckee have all started their own labels to distribute their stuff because they got tired of the major record label "creative accounting" practices. i hope ig does the same!!

-scott

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another good account of rock and money was written by steve albini(whom
you may remember as a memeber of big black and shellac as well as from
producing nirvana's in utero):

http://www.negativland.com/albini.html

its pretty stunning.

on a side note, the eagles, although probably making more cash by starting
their own record label, learned a lot about greed from their former label.
below is an open letter to don henley and his band of merry men that was
posted a couple of years ago on the www.the-ird.com (the independent
record store directory) a few years ago. the same letter could have been
written to the rolling stones, and elton john among others. i left the
list of indie stores on the bottom which signed the letter, if you feel
inclined, go find one of these stores in your in your town.

an open letter to don henley and the eagles

indie retail coalition confronts band
over best buy exclusive

june 10, 2003

the following open letter was forwarded by don vancleave of the coalition
of independent music stores, but as you'll see, it's signed by dozens of
indie retailers around the country.

we in the independent music retail community just heard the bad news that
you guys are giving your new dvd/single exclusively to best buy for the
all important first 30 days of its release.

while we understand the lure of working exclusively with huge corporations
and the marketing clout this mega-venture affords your band, this seems
like a serious compromise in principles. how is it that you, don, can rail
against the consolidation of power in the radio industry, and amongst
large record labels, and at the same time make a conscious decision to
stop anyone except the biggest of the big guys from carrying your
single/dvd at the time when all of your fans will want it? we respectfully
ask, where has your integrity and sense of fairness gone?

put yourselves in our shoes. we've catered to, and helped to build, your
fan base for the last 30 years. what do we tell our customers when they
ask us for the new eagles dvd/single? "sorry, the band says that you can
only buy it from very large corporations and we don't happen to be one of
them." and if you are successful with this mega-corporate venture, what
does it mean for music as an art form? will wal-mart begin to throw their
weight around and demand that only they be allowed to sell a super-star's
new singles, albums, and dvds in the future? it appears you are creating
that future with this action and the rest of us will suffer for it.

please reconsider your actions. we implore you not to create a world where
only the biggest corporations are allowed to participate in the creative
marketplace.

you've seen yourself what has happened with radio. why kill one of the
last few remaining human voices in the music business: the voice of the
independent music retailer. please allow us to buy and sell the new eagles
dvd/single upon its release. it is the right thing to do.

sincerely,

scott perkins & bruce carlock, cats music/pop tunes, nashville, tn
richard ellis, aron's records, los angeles, ca
ronn jackson, benway records, venice, ca
mike white, glenn forbes, & ed taylor, boo boo records, san luis obispo &
grover beach, ca
pat o'connor, boogie records, toledo, oh
brett wickard, bull moose music, portsmouth, me
quinn bishop, cactus music & video, houston, tx
david lang, cd world/streetside records, south plainfield, nj
dilyn & john radakovitz, dimple records, sacramento, ca
eric levin, criminal records, atlanta, ga
bernie hackett, dccd, washington, dc
allan miller, disc exchange, knoxville, tn
john timmons, ear x-tacy, louisville, ky
keith covart, electric fetus, minneapolis, mn
karl payne, face the music, eugene, or
rand foster, fingerprints, long beach, ca
joe nardone, jr., gallery of sound, wilkes-barre, pa
john huffman, gem city records, dayton, oh

erik courson, good records, dallas, tx
steve gray, graywhale cd exchange, salt lake city, ut
rick galusha, homer's music stores, bellevue, ne
steve wiley, hoodlums music, tempe, az
jim & mike mcguinn, hot poop, walla walla, wa
judy negley, independent music, colorado springs, co
jon d. harvey, jackpot records, portland, or
steve wilson, kief's audio and video, lawrence, ks
karl groeger jr., looney tunes, west babylon, ny
lou russell, lou's records, encinitas, ca
carl singmaster, manifest disc and tapes, columbia, sc
eric howarth, m-theory music, san diego, ca
terry currier, music millennium, portland, or
adam walker, my generation, westlake, oh
mike dreese, newbury comics, boston, ma
govindan kartha, new world record, buffalo, ny
sandy bitman, park avenue cd, winter park, fl
jim bland, plan 9, richmond, va
kevin stander, record & tape traders, owings mills, md
alayna hill-alderman, record archive, rochester, ny
michael bunnell, record exchange, boise, id
don rosenberg, the record exchange, charlotte, nc
phil strang, record service, champaigne, il
mike himes, record time, roseville, mi
chuck oken jr., rhino/mad platter, claremont, ca
bill o'keefe, rock-a-billys, detroit, mi
nancy & jim salzer, salzer's records, ventura, ca
mike phillips, schoolkids, cary, nc
don watson, sounds like..., riverside, ca
paul & jill epstein, twist and shout, denver, co
lisa teger-zhen, uncle sam's, miami beach, fl
lee wolfson, vinyl fever, tallahassee/tampa, fl
steve pick, vintage vinyl, st. louis, mo
rob roth, vintage vinyl, fords, nj
john t. kunz, waterloo records & tapes, austin, tx
michael crandell, pure pop, burlington, vt

-todd

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date:         tue, 21 jun 2005 13:56:20 -0700
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still available:

high on the hog - 09/13/03 - planet bluegrass
reeltime travelers - 09/13/03 - planet bluegrass
steve tannen - 03/06/02 - stuyvesant hall at ohio wesleyan university
uncle earl - 07/23/04 - rockygrass - planet bluegrass ranch


anna

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date:         tue, 21 jun 2005 15:18:25 -0700
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all of the cds have been claimed - thanks!

anna

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