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date:         tue, 1 nov 2005 07:22:11 -0500
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subject:      re: ig spoof on saturday night live
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i pretty much echo your experience of cringing at the beginning of the sketch.  i hope that the cast of snl respect ig while poking fun at them.  i think if sheryl crow were not a guest musician that this sketch would never have made it to stage:  they had to use her in some way other than musical guest to play up the power couple that she and lance have become.  i don't think she added that much to it, though.

for me, the funniest part was how "amy" ended every comment with a website you could check out to support their various causes.
rena

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from: jason hare <jasonhare1@gmail.com>
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sent: mon, 31 oct 2005 10:23:59 -0500
subject: re: ig spoof on saturday night live


overall, the ig sketch on snl was harmless. the two main joke points were
their hardcore activism (which was pretty much on the money) and the joke
about how they've been harmonizing forever, so if someone's off, it must be
someone else. it was amusing.

still, the minute it came on, i cringed and hid my face in a pillow. i've
been a huge snl fan for years and this is the first time this has ever
happened to me. :) i just sat there going, "..but they can't make fun of
indigo girls!" i sulked...but watched anyway. :)

the only thing that really pissed me off is that on snl, nobody ever teaches
non-musicians how to fake playing their instruments. watching a talented
actress like amy pohler barely touch the guitar just irritated me. :)

their harmonies weren't exactly the same as ig's, but not bad.

jason

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date:         tue, 1 nov 2005 21:12:24 -0500
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subject:      october 31st - november 6th, 2005
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howdy all -

just popping in to send the birthday announcement for the week :)

warmest birthday vibes out to the following listees:

october 31
madonajk@alpha.delta.edu (mark anthony donajkowski)
* strange fire (epic version), 31 october 1989

november 1
longwell_ls@hotmail.com - l'sly
"i wasted time and now time doth waste me"

november 1
betsy bertiaux
bbertiaux@earthlink.net

november 3
sobaroque@yahoo.com (jeremy james)

november 4
liltree@yahoo.com (lori ann)

november 4 ('67)
imat39@docusystems.durham.net (tami waters)

november 5
j.f.l.devaney@aston.ad.uk (john)

november 6 ('73)
ml5x+@andrew.cmu.edu (michael anthony leonard)
"don't you write it down, remember this in your head"
"how recklessly my time has been spent"
"replace the need with love"
"and i dreamed your dream for you
and now your dream is real"

november 6
ryan blackhawke
"our resident hamster...er...hempster"
"one day the war will stop and we'll grow a peaceful crop"
emily saliers -- "trouble"

enjoy yourselves, whatever you choose to do!

love and devotion,
audra
bge

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date:         wed, 2 nov 2005 06:45:01 -0800
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hey all. i realize that no one could have predicted the spoof for last sat night but was wondering if anyone just happened to tape the show anyway? i personally would love to see it and it's very likely that i could get a copy to the girls to see, if they haven't already. feel free to contact me off list, and thanks in advance.

carla ;o)


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date:         wed, 2 nov 2005 07:16:02 -0800
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if you're like me and you missed it (because who
watches snl anymore?), you can download it here if you
have a bit torrent program:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/142143.

if anybody wants, i will do a blanks & postage offer
to the first 10 people who email me.  the episode is
an .avi file, so it won't work on a dvd player, only
on a computer.  but the quality is pretty good.

jeremy

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date:         wed, 2 nov 2005 08:04:03 -0800
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-- please share with any students you know! --

national student walkout against bush's war and
military recruitment in
our
schools
wednesday, november 2
(the anniversary of bush's re-election)

endorsed by cindy sheehan, howard zinn, and noam
chomsky!

12:00 p.m.: walk out of school.
2:00 p.m.:  join the citywide demonstration on boston
common.
sign the pledge to walk out at
http://www.petitiononline.com/bos112/

for more information, to endorse, or for materials to
help organize the
walkout
in your school (posters, leaflets, stickers, and
more), e-mail:
bostonyawr@gmail.com / 617-275-6846.

take action - walk out!

walk out to shut down the war machine!
nearly 2000 us soldiers and over 100,000 iraqis have
died in this war,
a war
which is not about terrorism, wmds or liberating the
iraqi people, but
about
oil, money, and power. the majority of americans have
turned against
the
war,
and bush's support is at an all time low. now is the
time for young
people
to
take action to bring this war to an end. on november
2nd, high school,
college,
and middle school students across the country will
walk out as part of
this
national day of action.

military recruiters are coming after you!
your school is being used as a recruiting station for
the iraq war. but
that's
not all: recruiters have your name, number, address,
race and income.
they
target poor youth and people of color, show up at your
house, and call
you
day
after day because they get paid to sign you up.
ladies, they want you
too -
but
they won't tell you about the rampant sexism in the
military. not to
mention
the homophobic discrimination faced by gay and lesbian
soldiers. we
need to
end
this racist poverty draft and kick recruiters out of
our schools!

our lives, our voice, our power!
let's send a strong message to president bush,
congress, and the world
that
we
will not fight and die for this war. the war has cost
us nearly $300
billion
-
a massive debt our generation will carry on our backs
for years to
come.
meanwhile, hurricane katrina victims are not getting
enough government
help,
our classrooms are over-crowded, our books are
outdated, and our
schools are
crumbling. we also face low-paying jobs, few
opportunities, and college
financial aid is being slashed. we need money for jobs
and education,
not
war!


endorsed by: youth against war and racism, socialist
alternative,
radical
youth
alliance, boston mobilization, chelsea uniendose en
contra de la guerra
(chelsea uniting against the war), quincy against war

for more information, downloads, leaflets, and more,
visit the youth
against
war and racism website: www.yawr.org.

please forward widely!

national endorsers:

cindy sheehan, gold star families for peace

howard zinn, author of "a people's history of the
united states",
professor
emeritus, boston university

noam chomsky, professor emeritus, massachusetts
institute of technology

jodie evans, co-founder, codepink: women for peace

michael yates, associate editor, monthly review and
professor emeritus,
university of pittsburgh

harry magdoff, editor, monthly review

m. junaid alam, co-editor, left hook

derek seidman, co-editor, left hook

and others (to endorse, e-mail dannydamage@yahoo.com)



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date:         wed, 2 nov 2005 14:58:41 -0800
reply-to:     jeremy james <sobaroque@yahoo.com>
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the b&p offer for the ig spoof is closed.  sorry :(

this list may seem dead at times, but it's good to
know there are so many folks actually reading it!

jer

www.jeremyjamesmusic.com

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date:         thu, 3 nov 2005 13:49:06 -0500
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subject:      the snl skit on dvd...anti gay referendums in maine and research
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if someone has the avi (it probably is a divx file???

i can easily author the show to dvd (but give me till after tuesday, there
is a vicious gay rights referendum and it is just...frustrating to deal
with the lack of inclusive ideals in some queer (or so-called) queer groups.

i also need to get possible access to some stuff on lexis nexis - but it is
rediculous to try and get access (i know colby college in maine has it all
over their campus, but i cant put a day in doing research and being driven,
etc...

can anyone assist me with a couple articles i need on lexis nexis?

thanks -

sorry for the relative nigc

mike r.

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date:         thu, 3 nov 2005 22:38:07 -0500
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subject:      [fwd: ig sighting....fw: fall sale at visualgallery.com 2006
              calendars now available!]
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-------- original message --------
subject: ig sighting....fw: fall sale at visualgallery.com 2006
calendars now available!
date: wed, 02 nov 2005 07:37:25 -0600
from: lmschrei@rockwellcollins.com
to: donrich@neo.rr.com

hey don,

please forward this to the ig lists.  rock poster artist bob masse now has
a ig rock poster available (a collector's item).  also there is a cool
calendar for 2006 (although not including ig).  i'm going to order both.  i
have another of bob's posters (women in rock), and it rocks.  spent a
fortune to frame it, but it was worth it.

go see:

http://www.visualgallery.com/masse/calendar06_masse.htm

visual gallery is a good place to order from.  their items are reasonably
priced and there's prompt and safe shipping.

thanks,
lisa


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www.visualgallery.com

2006 rock poster calendar by bob masse


http://www.visualgallery.com/masse/calendar06_masse.htm


here's the gift that lasts all year long. the 2006 rock poster calendar by
poster legend bob masse is a retrospective of 40 years of music posters.
the designs are classics, including posters of jethro tull, pink floyd, the
grateful dead, jefferson airplane and many more. this is a brand new
addition at visualgallery.com, and each calendar is also hand signed by the
legend himself, bob masse!


rock art fall sale


many of our hand signed and plate signed prints are on sale this fall ,
most for the last time. as is the case with our limited editions, values
rise and with it so will prices. take advantage of our old sale prices
before they go up on november.


featured sections


the classic album art collection


  http://www.visualgallery.com/albumart.html


the beatles


http://www.visualgallery.com/beatles/index.html


the rolling stones


http://www.visualgallery.com/stones/

if you have any questions about our items, or would like any other
information, please feel free to e-mail us at orders@visualgallery.com


mike


2005 visualgallery.com

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date:         fri, 4 nov 2005 07:47:33 -0800
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i think someone mentioned that rarities had the drm technology...

after criticism, sony issues fix for hidden rootkits
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20051103/tc_nf/39083

sony (nyse: sne - news) has admitted that it included a stealth rootkit on some music cds shipped in 2005 and has issued an update to remove the hidden software one day after it was discovered. the company had drawn criticism from security experts who warned that the technology could serve as a tool for hackers.


the nearly undetectable monitoring utility, part of the company's digital-rights management (drm) technology, was aimed at preventing consumers from producing illegal copies of cds. the software installed itself automatically in windows systems whenever a cd was inserted. any files contained in the rootkit are invisible and almost impossible to remove.

security expert mark russinovich of sysinternals discovered the hidden rootkit and posted his findings on the company blog on november 1st. russinovich wrote that although he checked in his system's add or remove programs list, as well as on the vendor's site and on the cd itself, he could not find uninstall instructions. nor, he says, could he find any mention of it in the end user license agreement (eula).

stealth tactics

a rootkit is a set of tools commonly used by hackers to circumvent antivirus software and control a computer system. most rootkits are engineered so that common pc monitoring mechanisms cannot detect them. the rootkits are designed to tuck themselves in to the most basic level of the operating system and remain hidden from users.

a finnish antivirus company, f-secure, reported that it had spent several weeks recently trying to find the cause of some unknown files reported by a user who suspected an audio cd as the cause.

mikko hyppnen, chief research officer at f-secure, said hackers could use the rootkit to insert their own files by inserting a simple command at the beginning of the file name that would render them undetectable by most antivirus software. on the f-secure blog, hyppnen wrote that he heard rumors that universal is using the same drm system on its audio cds.

privacy? what privacy?

although industry analysts said they cannot fault sony's motives, some saw the company's initial failure to disclose the hidden technology as a violation of u.s. copyright laws. according to jared carleton, an analyst at frost & sullivan, sony is overstepping the fair-use clause that gives consumers the right to make backup copies.

"[sony] is saying, 'no, we are not going to pay attention to u.s. copyright law that's been generally accepted for the past 30 years,' " he said.

carleton likened the hidden drm to malware, and said it was no different than adware and spyware. he said that if sony was shipping drm-protected cds, the company needed to put a notice on its packaging. consumers understand that artists should be paid for their music, he said, but he added that consumers don't like this type of secrecy.

andrew jaquith, senior security analyst at yankee group, said the company behaved badly and that there could be a backlash. he said that the desire to protect intellectual property is understandable, but that sony should have been upfront about its drm technology, and would have been better off using industry-standard software.

"i haven't seen a single positive comment about this and it makes them look at little slimy," jaquith said. "they should have been above-board and should have used software that they hadn't cobbled together themselves."

on the web page containing the update, which enables users to detect and remove the rootkit, sony said its technology did not pose a security risk. "this component is not malicious and does not compromise security," the company's post said. "however to alleviate any concerns that users may have about the program posing potential security vulnerabilities, this update has been released to enable users to remove this component from their computers."

the fix can be downloaded at http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/updates.html.

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date:         fri, 4 nov 2005 12:29:41 -0500
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i wonder what a&e would think about this on their cd's from sony....

jen

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sorry,  i just didn't repost the previous post about hidden rootkits =
possibility on rarities.  see the post earlier today about it.

jen
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  you wonder what? what do you mean by "this on their cd's?" and what's =
sony issues fix for hidden rootkits? stumped.

  barb

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  i wonder what a&e would think about this on their cd's from sony....=20

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hi folks,

according to the article here:
http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/11/1780807.php
ig are going to be at the school of the americas protest, which is
being held at fort benning in ga between nov 18 & 20.  i couldn't find
any more details, but i thought i'd pass it on...

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and according to the article they'll be performing puppetry and music!

on fri, november 4, 2005 5:47 pm, sherlyn koo said:
> hi folks,
>
> according to the article here:
> http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/11/1780807.php
> ig are going to be at the school of the americas protest, which is
> being held at fort benning in ga between nov 18 & 20.  i couldn't find
> any more details, but i thought i'd pass it on...
>

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here is the original post about rootkits
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subject: sigc: sony issues fix for hidden rootkits


> i think someone mentioned that rarities had the drm technology...
>
> after criticism, sony issues fix for hidden rootkits
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20051103/tc_nf/39083
>
> sony (nyse: sne - news) has admitted that it included a stealth rootkit on
some music cds shipped in 2005 and has issued an update to remove the hidden
software one day after it was discovered. the company had drawn criticism
from security experts who warned that the technology could serve as a tool
for hackers.
>
>
> the nearly undetectable monitoring utility, part of the company's
digital-rights management (drm) technology, was aimed at preventing
consumers from producing illegal copies of cds. the software installed
itself automatically in windows systems whenever a cd was inserted. any
files contained in the rootkit are invisible and almost impossible to
remove.
>
> security expert mark russinovich of sysinternals discovered the hidden
rootkit and posted his findings on the company blog on november 1st.
russinovich wrote that although he checked in his system's add or remove
programs list, as well as on the vendor's site and on the cd itself, he
could not find uninstall instructions. nor, he says, could he find any
mention of it in the end user license agreement (eula).
>
> stealth tactics
>
> a rootkit is a set of tools commonly used by hackers to circumvent
antivirus software and control a computer system. most rootkits are
engineered so that common pc monitoring mechanisms cannot detect them. the
rootkits are designed to tuck themselves in to the most basic level of the
operating system and remain hidden from users.
>
> a finnish antivirus company, f-secure, reported that it had spent several
weeks recently trying to find the cause of some unknown files reported by a
user who suspected an audio cd as the cause.
>
> mikko hyppnen, chief research officer at f-secure, said hackers could use
the rootkit to insert their own files by inserting a simple command at the
beginning of the file name that would render them undetectable by most
antivirus software. on the f-secure blog, hyppnen wrote that he heard rumors
that universal is using the same drm system on its audio cds.
>
> privacy? what privacy?
>
> although industry analysts said they cannot fault sony's motives, some saw
the company's initial failure to disclose the hidden technology as a
violation of u.s. copyright laws. according to jared carleton, an analyst at
frost & sullivan, sony is overstepping the fair-use clause that gives
consumers the right to make backup copies.
>
> "[sony] is saying, 'no, we are not going to pay attention to u.s.
copyright law that's been generally accepted for the past 30 years,' " he
said.
>
> carleton likened the hidden drm to malware, and said it was no different
than adware and spyware. he said that if sony was shipping drm-protected
cds, the company needed to put a notice on its packaging. consumers
understand that artists should be paid for their music, he said, but he
added that consumers don't like this type of secrecy.
>
> andrew jaquith, senior security analyst at yankee group, said the company
behaved badly and that there could be a backlash. he said that the desire to
protect intellectual property is understandable, but that sony should have
been upfront about its drm technology, and would have been better off using
industry-standard software.
>
> "i haven't seen a single positive comment about this and it makes them
look at little slimy," jaquith said. "they should have been above-board and
should have used software that they hadn't cobbled together themselves."
>
> on the web page containing the update, which enables users to detect and
remove the rootkit, sony said its technology did not pose a security risk.
"this component is not malicious and does not compromise security," the
company's post said. "however to alleviate any concerns that users may have
about the program posing potential security vulnerabilities, this update has
been released to enable users to remove this component from their
computers."
>
> the fix can be downloaded at
http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/updates.html.
>
>
>
> "the united states senate has been hijacked by the democratic leadership,"
said majority leader bill frist of tennessee.  .......it's about damn
time!!!!!!
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date:         mon, 7 nov 2005 13:32:11 -1000
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i've pulled off the ig skit from last week's satuday night live and
burned it on dvd (it's a little over 5 mins long).  i'll send it out
to the first 5 people who email me their snail mail addy.

karen

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does anybody have any theories behind what might have pre-empted the snl
skit? i thought it was funny but yet a little unsettling....anyone else find it
that way or am i jst a little too sensitive?


mandy (in oklahoma)

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