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lauren,
those were the best reviews i've read in a long time! thank you so much
for taking the time to do that. ig haven't been to my neck of the woods
in a while, so i miss the shows. it is so nice to hear a review like
that.
have a great day!
-mi rinda
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arrgh! i have 9 hours left until the show tonight and i'm stuck in my office
daydreaming of indigo goodness! and, the burning question on my mind: will
they play "strange fire" as jim requested during his interview with amy?
can't wait!
buzzing with impatience,
tom m.
"can you mr. bush light the sage"
--- tori amos, "indian summer"
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for mi rinda and anybody who didn't get the link for this interview: here it
is. i'm dating the reporter who conducted the interview. there is more stuff
on the tape, and maybe someday i'll get around to transcribing it. does
anyone know how to transfer audio tape to mp3?
five hours and 20 minutes til showtime!
cheers,
tom m.
"can you mr. bush light the sage"
--- tori amos, "indian summer"
from: "beckerman, jim" <beckerman@northjersey.com>
to: "'boogiemannj@hotmail.com'" <boogiemannj@hotmail.com>
subject: indigo
date: fri, 3 feb 2006 18:58:40 -0500
high contrast yielded indigo
opposite styles of a durable duo
who: indigo girls.
what: alt-folk rock.
when: 8 p.m. wednesday and 7 p.m. feb. 12, mccarter theatre; 8 p.m.
thursday, community theatre.
where: mccarter theatre, 91 university place, princeton, (609) 258-6500;
community theatre, 100 south st., morristown, (973) 539-0345.
how much: $32 to $40 (mccarter theatre); $40 (community theatre, sold out).
by jim beckerman
staff writer
opposites attract.
anyway, they attract the kind of write-ups that amy ray and emily saliers,
better known as the indigo girls, have become very familiar with in their
20-year career.
emily is light-haired, amy is dark-haired. emily is northern, amy is
southern. emily is folk, amy is punk. one pair of matching bookends,
different as night and day.
it's a great hook. and it's even true to some extent, ray says.
"it's not as black and white as that, obviously, because it never is," ray
says. "but we are pretty opposite from each other, and i think that's why it
works."
it's also true that in all the years the guitar-playing, songwriting,
politically advocating alt-folk-rock duo have been making a dent in popdom
with songs like "closer to fine" and "galileo," they've never really written
a song together.
maybe just as well, ray says.
songwriting "is really a time when we feel we can express, purely, what our
intention is, and that sort of keeps us together," she says. "it gives us an
outlet that is not compromised from the beginning and doesn't become an
agreement until we've finished the song. then we work it out together, and
at that point it becomes an indigo girls song - when we do the arrangement."
if anything, the two artists, now touring behind their 2005 epic album,
"rarities," have drifted even further apart musically since the day they met
in elementary school in decatur, ga. (amy was a native; emily's family had
moved there from new haven, conn.)
again, maybe just as well.
"i think we actually had similar interests to begin with," ray says. "she
played guitar, and i played guitar. and we both sang, and we ended up in
high school in the chorus together. and we started playing around for fun,
learning songs and going to open-mike nights and stuff. after that, as you
develop and you're politicized and your personality develops and your
artistic world develops, we just kind of went in different directions but
maintained our partnership."
the indigo girls, like other cult acts, occupy a special niche in the pop
world.
it's a place reserved for artists with a turn for the poetic and a taste for
the political, who don't get around-the-clock airplay but nevertheless have
the total respect of fellow musicians (they always set an extra mike onstage
for surprise guests) and attract fanatical loyalists who blog and bootleg
and follow them from gig to gig.
it's all - mostly - good, ray says.
"we feel thankful for it; it's really kept our career going, to have such an
avid audience," ray says. "to me, the only time it gets to be weird is if
you feel someone is web logging and doing stuff that kind of crosses your
personal space. giving out information about you that is personal or
family-oriented. that happens all the time. someone will overhear something
somebody said in a bar, or somebody will be at my house who i didn't realize
was going to cross the line and web log about it. it can be disheartening.
my perspective is rather than just going into a hole and being scared, to
just try to live like you live, so people realize it's no big deal."
something else a tad disheartening, ray says: guys tend to shy away from the
indigo girls.
for no reason, as far as ray can see - their music is by no means
male-unfriendly.
typical is the write-up (generally positive) from the web site askmen.com:
"secret wish: that they release some music that we can blast in our cars,
rather than always showing up on our girlfriends' mix tapes."
"we released a record called 'come on now social,' that was really like
rock," ray says. "and i consider, if you're going to blast something, that's
pretty blast-able. it's very electric, and a lot of our records have that.
"i think there's some kind of weird demographic image issue with [guys]
admitting that they listen to us. i know a lot of guys, friends of mine, who
are really into what we do, and are very supportive, and they're just
mystified by why their friends think it has to be kept a secret. i don't
think it's just us. i think it's a lot of female acts. and it doesn't work
in the converse. it's not like women are afraid to admit they're eminem
fans. i think there's a bit of socially enforced negative stuff going on
there."
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date: wed, 8 feb 2006 17:44:26 -0800
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audio tape to mp3 requires that you have a tape player, a computer
with an audio-in jack, and an audio recording/conversion program.
it's a trivial process once you have all these bits and pieces in place.
if you really want step-by-step instructions, email me and i'll write
'em out for you.
-graham
on feb 8, 2006, at 11:44 am, tom xxxxx wrote:
> for mi rinda and anybody who didn't get the link for this
> interview: here it is. i'm dating the reporter who conducted the
> interview. there is more stuff on the tape, and maybe someday i'll
> get around to transcribing it. does anyone know how to transfer
> audio tape to mp3?
>
> five hours and 20 minutes til showtime!
>
> cheers,
> tom m.
>
>
> "can you mr. bush light the sage"
> --- tori amos, "indian summer"
>
>
> from: "beckerman, jim" <beckerman@northjersey.com>
> to: "'boogiemannj@hotmail.com'" <boogiemannj@hotmail.com>
> subject: indigo
> date: fri, 3 feb 2006 18:58:40 -0500
>
> high contrast yielded indigo
>
> opposite styles of a durable duo
>
> who: indigo girls.
>
> what: alt-folk rock.
>
> when: 8 p.m. wednesday and 7 p.m. feb. 12, mccarter theatre; 8 p.m.
> thursday, community theatre.
>
> where: mccarter theatre, 91 university place, princeton, (609)
> 258-6500;
> community theatre, 100 south st., morristown, (973) 539-0345.
>
> how much: $32 to $40 (mccarter theatre); $40 (community theatre,
> sold out).
>
> by jim beckerman
>
> staff writer
>
>
>
>
>
> opposites attract.
>
> anyway, they attract the kind of write-ups that amy ray and emily
> saliers,
> better known as the indigo girls, have become very familiar with in
> their
> 20-year career.
>
> emily is light-haired, amy is dark-haired. emily is northern, amy is
> southern. emily is folk, amy is punk. one pair of matching bookends,
> different as night and day.
>
> it's a great hook. and it's even true to some extent, ray says.
>
> "it's not as black and white as that, obviously, because it never
> is," ray
> says. "but we are pretty opposite from each other, and i think
> that's why it
> works."
>
> it's also true that in all the years the guitar-playing, songwriting,
> politically advocating alt-folk-rock duo have been making a dent in
> popdom
> with songs like "closer to fine" and "galileo," they've never
> really written
> a song together.
>
> maybe just as well, ray says.
>
> songwriting "is really a time when we feel we can express, purely,
> what our
> intention is, and that sort of keeps us together," she says. "it
> gives us an
> outlet that is not compromised from the beginning and doesn't
> become an
> agreement until we've finished the song. then we work it out
> together, and
> at that point it becomes an indigo girls song - when we do the
> arrangement."
>
> if anything, the two artists, now touring behind their 2005 epic
> album,
> "rarities," have drifted even further apart musically since the day
> they met
> in elementary school in decatur, ga. (amy was a native; emily's
> family had
> moved there from new haven, conn.)
>
> again, maybe just as well.
>
> "i think we actually had similar interests to begin with," ray
> says. "she
> played guitar, and i played guitar. and we both sang, and we ended
> up in
> high school in the chorus together. and we started playing around
> for fun,
> learning songs and going to open-mike nights and stuff. after that,
> as you
> develop and you're politicized and your personality develops and your
> artistic world develops, we just kind of went in different
> directions but
> maintained our partnership."
>
> the indigo girls, like other cult acts, occupy a special niche in
> the pop
> world.
>
> it's a place reserved for artists with a turn for the poetic and a
> taste for
> the political, who don't get around-the-clock airplay but
> nevertheless have
> the total respect of fellow musicians (they always set an extra
> mike onstage
> for surprise guests) and attract fanatical loyalists who blog and
> bootleg
> and follow them from gig to gig.
>
> it's all - mostly - good, ray says.
>
> "we feel thankful for it; it's really kept our career going, to
> have such an
> avid audience," ray says. "to me, the only time it gets to be weird
> is if
> you feel someone is web logging and doing stuff that kind of
> crosses your
> personal space. giving out information about you that is personal or
> family-oriented. that happens all the time. someone will overhear
> something
> somebody said in a bar, or somebody will be at my house who i
> didn't realize
> was going to cross the line and web log about it. it can be
> disheartening.
> my perspective is rather than just going into a hole and being
> scared, to
> just try to live like you live, so people realize it's no big deal."
>
> something else a tad disheartening, ray says: guys tend to shy away
> from the
> indigo girls.
>
> for no reason, as far as ray can see - their music is by no means
> male-unfriendly.
>
> typical is the write-up (generally positive) from the web site
> askmen.com:
> "secret wish: that they release some music that we can blast in our
> cars,
> rather than always showing up on our girlfriends' mix tapes."
>
> "we released a record called 'come on now social,' that was really
> like
> rock," ray says. "and i consider, if you're going to blast
> something, that's
> pretty blast-able. it's very electric, and a lot of our records
> have that.
>
> "i think there's some kind of weird demographic image issue with
> [guys]
> admitting that they listen to us. i know a lot of guys, friends of
> mine, who
> are really into what we do, and are very supportive, and they're just
> mystified by why their friends think it has to be kept a secret. i
> don't
> think it's just us. i think it's a lot of female acts. and it
> doesn't work
> in the converse. it's not like women are afraid to admit they're
> eminem
> fans. i think there's a bit of socially enforced negative stuff
> going on
> there."
>
> ***
>
> e-mail: beckerman@northjersey.com
>
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reply-to: "i am 32 flavors and then some..." <tisara@www.webworqs.com>
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subject: birthdays (february 6th - 12th, 2006)
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all:
sorry about the delay. chalk it up to sickness increasing my normal spacey-ness. :) birthday shout outs this week going to the following listees...
february 9
aml@scn.org (ann m. labeck)
february 11
chocobo11@aol.com (elizabeth)
"chickenman, chickenman, chickenman hold my hand...."
* indigo girls, 21 february 1989
woo hoo! i'm just in time! have mahvelous birthdays, dah-links :)
love and devotion,
audra
bge
(http://www.myspace.com/tisara)
*hee*
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hi indigo girls list people,
i don't care what kind of shit i get for posting this. indigo fans need to
know what happened at the fillmore.
like many people i also flew up for the fillmore shows. they were just too
special to miss and it had been a while since i previously saw amy and
emily. i got in line at around ten in the morning. i was behind the big
tent with about 7 people in it (spike? & friends?) and a few other people.
everyone was very pleasant. i braved the cold like everyone else in line.
i have been to several shows with the people who are always at teh start of
the line and they seem to like going to the front on amy's side. i chatted
with some people near me in line and i decided that i was going to aim for
front row center. one of those girls and she reassured me that the whole
group in the tent was going to the left side of the stage. i felt fairly
confident that i would wind up somewhere near the center of the stage but up
in the first row. i was ok with ending up slightly off to emily's side, not
dead center, but knowing that i did my time in line i felt like i deserved
to be right up at the stage and not too far over.
just a few minutes (perhaps 20, 30, i don't know) before doors opened at the
fillmore, lauren from colorado showed up. i have been to shows with lauren
before and i know how she likes to be in the front as well. i was surprised
to see she showed up so late but i was guessing she decided to hang in the
balcony or near the back. that was not the case!
somehow she got in early. i heard some mumblings from those right at the
front that it was because she had an injury. i have no problem with people
with disabilities/injuries getting in early, but i do have a problem with
people with disabilities/injuries getting in early and taking the spots in
the front row dead center.
sorry lauren but what you did was shity. you didn't do your time in line
and you know that! instead you cut in front of everyone including people
who were there at 5 in the morning (i know thats when the first people in
line arrived). the people right up front of the line still got their spots
in that venue they didn't get fucked over. but other people who were
outside all day as well got pushed away from the front or way to the side
thanks to you and your party of 15! i didnt end up anywhere near where i
had intended. thanks for that. also thank you to the disabled/injured
people who did get in early and took a table off to the side. that was very
fair and considerate.
and tahnk you even more for your sense of entitlement. sorry but front row
center is just as important to me at an i.g. show (it's important to a lot
of people not just you) as well. but unlike you i did my serious time in
line and got fucked in the process. you can't blame the fillmore staff for
poor line control. you can't blame the people in front of me for letting
friends in line (no one did). there is one reason i froze my butt off and
didn't end up in the front, and that was because of you and your friends
lauren. you've done your time in line at other shows and i ask you this.
how would you feel if you were the one screwed? it's not a nice feeling.
thanks for reminding me once again how unfair life can be and how some
people play every card they have and have no respect for others.
also i have a question lauren. if you're really disabled can you please
explain to me how you can stand up for the hours during the show? yeah.
thanks.
i am just glad i exposed your bullshit and lack of respect to everyone on
this list. this also serves as a warning for everyone here. if you get to
a venue at 5am and lauren has any plans of attending that show, forget
getting front row center. she'll get there 30 seconds before doors and
screw everyone in line over.
i'm going back to lurking. i had to say something here.
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hi,
sorry for the nigc, but just curious if anyone is going to the melissa ferrick show at the norva 3/8/06 in norfolk va, or the birchmere 3/30/06 in alexandria va.
i am going to both and would love to meet anyone coming.
thanks,
--angie
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it was me +1 (my fiance, karen). it was not a party of 15 people.
i made good faith efforts to work with the people at the front of the line
and to make sure that everyone was happy with where they were both nights. it
was my understanding that everyone was.
i'm sorry that it didn't work out for you personally. had i known, i would
have been glad to help, as i'm sure everyone else would attest.
lauren
p.s. you didn't sign your name to your post. who are you?
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if you cannot post a name, then stay in lurk mode. all you are is
pissed off. this is not due to lauren.
i think i can speak pretty well of lauren, she is a hell of a person
and will do just about anything to prevent something like what happened to you.
anonyminity gives you some puffed up sense of power. lauren, however,
is the real deal.
god, is it me or are ig fans getting back to this more psychotic than
1997 ani fans.
mjr...
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hey folks,
here's an article from the poughkeepsie journal - you can read it online=
at:
http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=3d/20060210/ent04=
/602
100301
cheers,
sherlyn
---begin forwarded article---
big weekend of music at bardavon
indigo girls, david bromberg fill musical bill
by john w. barry
poughkeepsie journal
february 10, 2006
she has the stage name of a movie star, the guitar chops of a grammy-winner=
and
the innocence of someone just thrilled to be earning a salary doing what she=
loves.
ask amy ray about the success she and fellow indigo girl emily sailer have
achieved with two acoustic guitars, finely-crafted songs, thoughtful lyrics=
and
a concern for social conditions beyond the obligatory benefit each year. she=
will sound as surprised as anyone at how well the pair have done.
"i have no idea," ray said during a telephone interview about why the indigo=
girls have done so well for themselves. "basically, i just appreciate it,=
that
it has worked. i don't know. our audience is really great."
along with that audience, ray credited college radio with giving the indigo=
girls a forum to reach new listeners.
"timing is kind of everything," she said.
this weekend, the indigo girls will be part of a monster music weekend at=
the
bardavon 1869 opera house in poughkeepsie. the indigo girls are set to=
perform a
sold-out concert tonight; icon lou reed was scheduled to perform saturday,=
one
of two u.s. concerts before heading off to italy for a show at the winter
olympics, then a european tour, but he had to postpone the show due to=
illness,
bardavon executive director chris silva said thursday. folk-rock favorite=
david
bromberg plays sunday.
the bardavon has a history of hosting stars. reed underscores the type of=
artist
the oldest theater in new york state is capable of getting =97 just last week=
bob
dylan rehearsed for four days at the market street venue.
the rock and roll hall of fame member with the velvet underground was
unavailable for an interview and is largely credited more with transcending=
musical dimensions with his songwriting than selling records, but his draw=
at
the bardavon box office testifies to how much his avant-garde links to late=
artist andy warhol and penning of one of the most famous rock anthems, "walk=
on
the wild side," still mean to fans. silva said his show would be rescheduled=
at
a date to be announced.
when she is not on stage performing such hits as "galileo" and "closer to=
fine,"
ray can be found in different corners of the nation or various pockets of=
the
world. on her own web site, www.amy-ray.com, she writes about traveling last=
summer to washington, d.c., to state her position on low energy fm and the
energy bill. also on the web site, she opines about musicians signing deals=
to
sell cds through wal-mart and starbuck's.
"it's a wal-mart vs. starbuck's world," ray writes, "and music should really=
transcend this."
mexican issues raised
another social issue that concerns ray is the well-being of the mexican
zapatistas, indigenous people who staged a military uprising in chiapas,=
mexico,
shortly after the adoption of the north american free trade agreement=
several
years ago.
ray has visited the area twice, met with residents and has been working to=
get
them essential goods and services. ray's current project involves tapping=
solar
power to help the residents of chiapas live more comfortably.
"it's just to learn about organizing and what grassroots groups are doing=
down
there and how," ray said. "it connects to us. ... i think there is a=
connection
there. it's important to see what's happening. it's one place of many you=
can
go."
another place amy and emily have traveled to repeatedly is the hudson=
valley.
several years ago, they played a concert at marist college, where they=
invited
folk legend pete seeger of beacon to perform with them.
last summer, they played a concert in pittsburgh and traveled 500 miles to
perform the next day at the hudson sloop clearwater inc.'s annual revival,=
which
benefits the organization founded by seeger that for decades has worked to=
get
the hudson river clean of pollution.
"they are very much the people that walk the walk, similar to pete seeger,"=
said
ron aja, clearwater's outreach events director. "they believe and they act=
upon
their beliefs. they gave us an incredible gift. they understand=
organizations
like clearwater help us to fend off earth's vandals."
but still, as ray and saliers tackle social issues, ray said, it's "also=
about
the music and the songwriting."
john w. barry can be reached at jobarry@poughkeepsiejournal.com.
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well, we are in limbo here in nj awaiting word to hear if tonight's ig =
performance in princeton, nj will be cancelled/postponed due to our =
unfortunately timed nor'easter.
jordan and i had tickets for a ig show 3 years ago at the grand opera =
house in wilmington, de when the same thing happened...that show was =
re-scheduled and cancelled a second time for snow! we didn't get to see =
the make up show for an entire year after the date for the original =
show.
i'm hoping the girls will book more tours in april instead of feb for =
the east coast in the future!
l.
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hey mike, if you weren't there, i wouldn't judge the situation. i was there and i have to say the lurker had some valid points. i guess it's really up to him/her to be anonymous or not. that being said i'm carrying no grude against lauren, again, i just don't think you should mix in and judge if you weren't there.
--sarah
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if you cannot post a name, then stay in lurk mode. all you are is pissed off. this is not due to lauren.
i think i can speak pretty well of lauren, she is a hell of a person and will do just about anything to prevent something like what happened to you.
anonyminity gives you some puffed up sense of power. lauren, however, is the real deal.
god, is it me or are ig fans getting back to this more psychotic than 1997 ani fans.
mjr...
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has been re-scheduled for tomorrow (monday night) at 7:30 at the =
mccarter theatre.
whoopie! i'm so glad we still get to go!
l.
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by the same token, without knowing explicility what someone's disability
is, or how it affects their life, no one is in any=20
place to judge if what lauren did was "right" or not=2e many disabilities=
are hidden - they warrant no external aids like=20
wheelchairs, crutches, braces, etc=2e but they do affect how someone goes=
through life=2e i have a hidden disability - a hearing=20
impairment=2e when i am not wearing hearing aids, i seem to be like every=
one
else, able to hear and talk=2e but that doesn't=20
mean i experience sound/speech/etc like everyone else=2e just because you=
can't see it does not mean it isn'tt there or=20
affects life in some specific ways=2e
i wasn't there=2e my biggest thought about the lurker post is that life i=
s
not worth getting hepped up about whether you're first=20
row center or second row center=2e i do know how cool it is to be in the
front row, but it really isnt the end of the world to not=20
be in the front row=2e this is why i dont like going to ga shows - for me=
,
the aggravation of not getting where i want to be isnt=20
worth the sacrifice to my overall enjoyment of the show=2e i've been in m=
ore
situations than i would like where i started early in=20
line and then was #100 after all the best friends showed up=2e i woudl be=
in
such a foul mood at a show, afterwards, i=20
stopped going that way=2e that's my prerogrative=2e but i also found i
enjoyed a lot more shows then, too, when i wasnt=20
focused on where, precisely, i wanted to stand=2e
i have seen people cut lines on what seemed like flimsy reasons for gettin=
g
good seats=2e as it keeps being pointed out,=20
without specific knowledge, none of us is in any position to make
judgements or assessments only on what we see or=20
think we know=2e by the same token, where is it writen that because someon=
e
is disabled, they are not allowed the same=20
enjoyment as the tab=3f (temporarily able bodied - because let's face it -=
virtually all of us experience disability at some=20
point even for a short time with broken bones or illness) i found it
patronizing that the lurker congratulated those with=20
wheelchairs for not getting in the center, as if being on two feet is some=
sort of overriding marker which means you=20
should have more privilege=2e that's bs, imo=2e
i also think the lurker should have signed a name to the post=2e not sign=
ing
is like ring and run - "i want to say something but do=20
not want to catch the fallout so i will stay anonymous"=2e stand up for
yourself=2e it's what amy and emily would do=2e
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date: sun, 12 feb 2006 12:29:33 -0500
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subject: re: the fillmore: something everyone needs to know
hey mike, if you weren't there, i wouldn't judge the situation=2e i was th=
ere
and i have to say the lurker had some valid points=2e i=20
guess it's really up to him/her to be anonymous or not=2e that being said =
i'm
carrying no grude against lauren, again, i just=20
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--sarah
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if you cannot post a name, then stay in lurk mode=2e all you are is pissed=
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thank goodness for that! i've been trying to get to nj from california for
over 24 hours. looks like the storm is clearing... my flight to philly is
not cancelled, but it's very delayed. (i'm in chicago now...)
on 2/12/06, lynne @listserve <timlynlist@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> has been re-scheduled for tomorrow (monday night) at 7:30 at the mccarter
> theatre.
> whoopie! i'm so glad we still get to go!
> l.
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i completely concure.
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by the same token, without knowing explicility what someone's disability
is, or how it affects their life, no one is in any
place to judge if what lauren did was "right" or not.
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more importantly, i also concur... heh.
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i completely concure.
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by the same token, without knowing explicility what someone's disability
is, or how it affects their life, no one is in any
place to judge if what lauren did was "right" or not.
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--- ig fan - <igfan461@hotmail.com> wrote:
> i don't care what kind of shit i get for posting
> this.
apparently not. here's my "shit"
is this a real post??? oh my god! are you
serious??? honey, how self centered and entitled are
you! geez, can you put things into perspective here?
> but other people who were
> outside all day as well got pushed away from the
> front or way to the side
> thanks to you and your party of 15! i didnt end up
> anywhere near where i
> had intended. thanks for that.
heavy sarcasm alert:
you"re kidding! oh, how tragic! those bastards!
you are too much. that's all i have to say.
also thank you to
> the disabled/injured
> people who did get in early and took a table off to
> the side. that was very
> fair and considerate.
yes. some of those disabled people really know their
place, huh? (heavy sarcasm) yes, i guess these
would be the "good disabled people", as opposed to
those who make your world uncomfortable.
> and tahnk you even more for your sense of
> entitlement. sorry but front row
> center is just as important to me at an i.g. show
> (it's important to a lot
> of people not just you) as well. but unlike you i
> did my serious time in
> line and got fucked in the process.
and we all know that as long as you did your time in
line, then that's all that matters. fuck everyone
else. disability or not, if you didn't do your time,
then go to the back of the line. i don't care if
your disabled or injured or what - what matters is
that you get the place you wanted. after all, you
earned it.
>
> also i have a question lauren. if you're really
> disabled can you please
> explain to me how you can stand up for the hours
> during the show? yeah.
> thanks.
>
yeah lauren. what's the deal????
good pc move - always blame and intimidate the victim.
show's your sense of compassion and maturity.
it always astounds me when someone shares their idiocy
and self centeredness and embarrasses themselves in a
public forum, i.e. this music forum that is dedicated
to two of the kindest, most compasisonate women.
thank you for sharing your tragic event with the list!
i know my world is complete now that you've shared
how you were
*so screwed* out of your rightful place in line.
elaine
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i am a patriot and i have been fighting the good fight"
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no - i am completely standing behind what i said about lauren, i
*know* how she is, even tho i dont think i have actually met her,
(tho we have some famous mutual friends.) i have dealt with lauren
since 1998, there isnt one shred of evidence some person who doesnt
have the audacity to put their name on a post and registers with
hotmail to cause sh*t that she did the things she is accused of doing.
mjr
at 12:29 pm 2/12/2006, rainnriver@aol.com wrote:
>hey mike, if you weren't there, i wouldn't judge the situation. i
>was there and i have to say the lurker had some valid points. i
>guess it's really up to him/her to be anonymous or not. that being
>said i'm carrying no grude against lauren, again, i just don't think
>you should mix in and judge if you weren't there.
>--sarah
>
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>sent: fri, 10 feb 2006 13:34:38 -0500
>subject: re: the fillmore: something everyone needs to know
>
>if you cannot post a name, then stay in lurk mode. all you are is
>pissed off. this is not due to lauren.
>
>i think i can speak pretty well of lauren, she is a hell of a person
>and will do just about anything to prevent something like what
>happened to you.
>
>anonyminity gives you some puffed up sense of power. lauren,
>however, is the real deal.
>
>god, is it me or are ig fans getting back to this more psychotic
>than 1997 ani fans.
>
>mjr...
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ok cool. i'm out. and be clear--i have no hard feeling toward anyone involved here.
best,
sarah
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no - i am completely standing behind what i said about lauren, i *know* how she is, even tho i dont think i have actually met her, (tho we have some famous mutual friends.) i have dealt with lauren since 1998, there isnt one shred of evidence some person who doesnt have the audacity to put their name on a post and registers with hotmail to cause sh*t that she did the things she is accused of doing.
mjr
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>hey mike, if you weren't there, i wouldn't judge the situation. i >was there and i have to say the lurker had some valid points. i >guess it's really up to him/her to be anonymous or not. that being >said i'm carrying no grude against lauren, again, i just don't think >you should mix in and judge if you weren't there.
>--sarah
>
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>subject: re: the fillmore: something everyone needs to know
>
>if you cannot post a name, then stay in lurk mode. all you are is >pissed off. this is not due to lauren.
>
>i think i can speak pretty well of lauren, she is a hell of a person >and will do just about anything to prevent something like what >happened to you.
>
>anonyminity gives you some puffed up sense of power. lauren, >however, is the real deal.
>
>god, is it me or are ig fans getting back to this more psychotic >than 1997 ani fans.
>
>mjr...
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hey folks,
here's a nice review of the albany show from the albany times union. it's
online at:
http://timesunion.com/aspstories/story.asp?storyid=449853&category=arts&newsdate=2/12/2006
cheers,
sherlyn
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it's back to true-blue at indigo girls concert
by michael eck, special to the times union
first published: sunday, february 12, 2006
albany -- "we're like the little engine that could, y'all."
that "y'all" was telling. it was drawled by emily saliers, the fair-haired
half of atlanta's fiery folk rock duo, indigo girls.
the remark was actually in response to amy ray's self-deprecating remark,
"that's why we're not in the pro leagues" -- which was, in itself, in response
to a harmonica glitch that forced ray to temporarily halt "dairy queen."
the indigos, of course, have been in the pro leagues for a good long time.
judging by the response of their albany fans, though, you might have thought
indigo girls were the newest, hippest thing.
classics like "galileo" and "land of canaan" sat alongside recent additions to
the catalog, like the sweet southern soul of "moment of forgiveness" from
2002's "become you" and the show-opening "fill it up again," from 2004's "all
that we let in."
the present tour is sort of a back-to-the-roots affair for ray and saliers in
that they are once again performing simply as a duo, sans their regular
backing band.
but the purely acoustic material -- which featured six- and 12-string guitars,
banjo, mandolin -- was only the major part of saturday's story.
as things wore on, the indigos invited guests onstage, including their
piano-playing bus driver, rick, and the very electric members of opening act
three5human.
three5 vocalist trina meade joined in first on the indigos' breakthrough 1989
hit, "closer to fine." so did the eager, standing crowd.
what a sound!
human, a four-piece atlanta rock band, also delighted the crowd with an
opening set that was both fierce and melodic.
for "jenny," meade and crew were joined by saliers, but they didn't need her
cache to win over new fans. by that point, the crowd was already in the band's
collective back pockets.
michael eck is a freelance writer from albany and a frequent contributor to
the times union.
music review
indigo girls with three5human
when: 8 p.m. saturday
where: the egg, empire state plaza, albany
length: indigo girls, 90 minutes; three5human, 40 minutes.
highlights: amy ray's solo mandolin-thrashing on "let it ring" (which was
tagged with "this little light of mine") was the evening's purest moment.
the crowd: the indigos sold out well in advance, with more than 900 fans
filling the larger hart theatre.
upcoming: country rebel rosanne cash comes to the egg on march 4.
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date: mon, 13 feb 2006 05:49:16 -0800
reply-to: shazzi <shazzi71@yahoo.com>
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from: shazzi <shazzi71@yahoo.com>
subject: re: the fillmore: something everyone needs to know
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you know, i can understand if we were talking about reserved seats here, the fact being this is just general admission and you know what??? there is no fairness ... who got there the earliest vs who's disabled etc.. i'm sorry but it doesn't matter who you're friends with or even if it's your own mother standing in front of you. when those doors open up, it's usually everyone for themselves. unfortunately it does suck but that's just the way it tends to be. so you can either deal with it and enjoy the show, or just stay home.
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in a message dated 2/9/2006 5:33:29 p.m. eastern standard time,
igfan461@hotmail.com writes:
somehow she got in early. i heard some mumblings from those right at the
front that it was because she had an injury. i have no problem with people
with disabilities/injuries getting in early, but i do have a problem with
people with disabilities/injuries getting in early and taking the spots in
the front row dead center.
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wow, this person had better never go to the falcon ridge folk festival,
because -- egads! -- they let people w/disabilities come and go as they
please and let them all sit up front and center! they even rope off the area! and
you know, perhaps another reason this person should never go is that frff
features signers to interpret all the songs, and that would be a constant
reminder that not everyone is fit and able-bodied. what a bummer that'd be to
igfan461.
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date: mon, 13 feb 2006 09:28:26 -0800
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subject: re: it's deja vu all over again
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hi lynne and everyone,
> at the grand opera house in wilmington, de when the
> same thing happened...that show was re-scheduled and
> cancelled a second time for snow! we didn't get to
> see the make up show for an entire year after the
> date for the original show.
i didn't get to go to that one at all because i was
traveling for work when it was on its 3rd and final
date. :-( my only consolation was a signed t-shirt
obtained by a friend i met at the original show.
thank you again janice if you are out there!!!
good luck with the nj show tonight...
sue
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date: mon, 13 feb 2006 09:57:52 -0800
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nice review! it was clear that the reviewer "got it," which makes me happy=
.
anna
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date: tue, 14 feb 2006 12:35:43 +1100
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hey kids,
here's the latest official mailer...
-sherlyn
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subject: indigo girls: new notes from amy!
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date: tue, february 14, 2006 11:58 am
"well, we're touring up and down the west coast, it's back to soda and ruger
wafers. i like a hotel with a good vending machine to keep me company. we're
running bio diesel on a regular basis now, it feels good to tour this way."
read more:
http://www.indigogirls.com/correspondence/2006/2006-02-10-a-01.html
enjoy : )
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date: mon, 13 feb 2006 20:46:31 -0500
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subject: birthdays (february 13th - 19th, 2006)
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howdy, and happy vday eve. *laughs* here's a big ole loving shout out to the listees turning a year older this week:
february 13 (=9261)
aquaspec@sbcglobal.net (tony)
february 14
hicktruckdriver <dcw2428@osfmail.isc.rit.edu>
february 15 (=9282)
indigoanid@aol.com
the big 1-9!!!!
february 19, 2002
mycozypjs@aol.com
have a blast, be happy, and i hope you get all that you wish for - and more!
as a reminder for the rest...
if you are not on the list, and would like to be, feel free to
email me privately. i will put you on the list asap. some people have
just included their email address and birthday, others include their real
name, and lots include quotes. any form is acceptable. similarly, if you
are on the list and would like to add/change/delete your entry, do so
privately and i will update. do not forget to include your b-day if you
are in the add/change/delete category...i really don't want to sift
through hundreds of entries to find yours. thanks :)
ta da!
love and devotion,
audra
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i was at a perkins restruant on university ave. in st paul with some friends...they started playing fill it up again with the singing...not just intstruments. i couldn't listen much though because of all the chatter...oh well. happy valentines day everyone.
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