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subject:      archive?

hello,

does anyone know if it's possible to get a password to search through this list's archives, and how i would do that? i need to find something posted her ein like 1996...

thanks,

sus


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amy ray was recently interviewed for rubyfruit radio and it is now posted.

the url is www.rubyfruitradio.com.

you can also search for it in itunes or use the rss address
rubyfruit.libsyn.com/rss to subscribe.

also, a daemon records spotlight show will be up in a couple of days.

try to ignore how nervous i was! :)

-heather

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date:         fri, 17 mar 2006 05:33:59 -0800
reply-to:     jill certo <jillyc@hotmail.com>
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from:         jill certo <jillyc@hotmail.com>
subject:      re: archive? (long and technical and boring.)
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sus asked:

>does anyone know if it's possible to get a password to search through this
>list's archives, and how i would do that? i need to find something posted
>her ein like 1996...

here you go.  it's long.  if you still need more info, or want to know how
to do other fandangled things, go to
http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/1.8d/user/user.html#2.11

xo
jill


how to access list archives

many listserv lists archive everything that is said on the list for future
reference, although often list owners regularly "trim" the archives to save
disk space. as mentioned in chapter 1, list archives can be accessed in two
ways: you can ask listserv to send you the log file for a particular month,
or you can use the database functions to search the archives for messages
related to a certain topic, and have listserv return a copy of all the
messages matching your requirements. the first method is easier, but the
second is more powerful.

using the index command

in order to find out what archive files are available for a list, you would
send the command command index listname to the appropriate listserv server.
for instance, you could get the list of archives available for the lactacid
list by sending the command

index lactacid

to listserv@segate.sunet.se. listserv would send the following in response:

*
* archive files for the lactacid list at segate.sunet.se
* (monthly logs)
* rec last - change
* filename filetype get put -fm lrecl nrecs date time
* -------- -------- --- --- --- ----- ----- -------- --------
  lactacid log9511  log own   v    93   169 96/08/08 02:17:15
  lactacid log9512  log own   v   152   393 96/08/08 02:17:16
  lactacid log9601  log own   v    79   171 96/08/08 02:17:17
  lactacid log9602  log own   v    82  2254 96/08/08 02:17:18
  lactacid log9603  log own   v    80  1097 96/08/08 02:17:20
  lactacid log9604  log own   v    90   635 96/08/08 02:17:21
  lactacid log9605  log own   v    88    24 96/08/08 02:17:22
  lactacid log9606  log own   v    77   364 96/08/08 02:17:23
  lactacid log9607  log own   v    79   444 96/08/08 02:17:24
  lactacid log9608  log own   v    80   200 96/08/08 16:44:21

ordering archived postings with the get command

to order a copy of a notebook archive log, simply send listserv a get
command followed by the name of the file:

get lactacid log####

where "####" corresponds to the year and month of the archive. for instance,
if you wanted the archive from march, 1996, you would type

get lactacid log9603

you can send several get commands in the same message, as long as you put
each new command on a separate line. please check with your system
administrator before ordering large files to confirm that you have enough
disk space available.

the database functions

searching list archives via email commands

this section discusses options available to users of lists running on
listserv version 1.8c or any version running on ibm's vm operating system.
to find out what version your list is running on, create a new mail message
and type the following command in the body (not the subject) of the message:

release

as mentioned above, the database functions are more complicated but provide
more flexibility. for more information about the database functions for
lists running on vm servers, send an info database command to
listserv@listserv.net and you will be sent the documentation for the vm
database functions. the information you can retrieve from a vm listserv
server is nearly identical to that which you can retrieve from the other
search engines; the syntax of the database commands is, however, somewhat
different.

for lists running on listserv 1.8c on unix, vms, and windows nt servers,
here is a quick preview of database functions sent by mail. let's go back to
the original task we set for ourselves when we started, which was to find
out:

what are the best selective culture media to grow lactobacillus?

so we create a new e-mail message addressed to listserv@segate.sunet.se and
type the following command in the body (not the subject) of the message:

search lacto bacill culture media in lactacid

listserv responds:

>search lacto bacill culture media in lactacid
-> 2 matches.

item #   date   time  recs   subject
------   ----   ----  ----   -------
000001 95/11/16 15:51   84   lab as contaminants.alcohol ferment.
000002 95/11/17 09:20   38   re: lab as contaminants.alcohol ferment.

to order a copy of these postings, send the following command:

                    getpost lactacid 1-2

>>>item #1 (16 nov 1995 15:51) - lab as contaminants.alcohol ferment.
alcoholic content (8,5-10,5 % vol), but, of course have some problems
of bacterial infections (mostly lactic acid bacteria =lab, lactobacillus
                                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^
fermentum and others).
***************
if the lab is mixed with a lot of yeast would it be possible to use these
rapid methods ? what are the best selective culture media to grow
                                            ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
lactobacillus?
^^^^^^^^^^^
and elisa ?are there tests ready to use ?is there a firm that develops elisa
***************
mechanism (or any other) studies ?is there anyone studying the proteins of
the cell walls of lactobacillus (are they lectins?).what about the
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^
role of polysaccharides in the flocculation induced by lab ?
***************

(much more context deleted--ed.)

to actually get a copy of the message to read, you have to send another
message to listserv, this time with the getpost command as described in the
response. then listserv sends you the posting(s) you've ordered in another
response.

as you can see, the database functions let you find the answer to many
questions without having to disturb the people on the list, and without
having to wait for them to find the time to compose an answer of
(potentially) several hundred lines.

searching list archives via the world wide web

this section discusses options available to users of lists running on
listserv version 1.8c under unix, vms, or windows nt. to find out what
version your list is running on, create a new mail message and type the
following command in the body (not the subject) of the message:

release

assuming that the server that hosts your list has these functions enabled,
you can also search list archives with your favorite web browser similar to
the way you searched the catalist in chapter 2. in general, you start by
finding your list in the catalist, then clicking on the "web archive
interface" hyperlink in the "features:" list. (if this hyperlink does not
appear, the list's archives are not publicly available. if you are
subscribed to the list, see the section immediately below on "searching list
archives via email commands".)

clicking the "web archive interface" hyperlink connects you to the archives
page for the list. from here you can either browse the available notebook
archives by clicking on the various hyperlinks, or you can choose "search
the archives" to bring up a search page.

the most important box on the search page is the "search for:" box. this is
where you put your basic search parameters. for the purpose of this
tutorial, we won't go into the uses of the other boxes on the page, but you
can click the "help!" hyperlink for more information on how to use them.

to duplicate the search we did by e-mail, we simply type "lacto bacill
culture media" in the "search for:" box, and click "start the search!" after
a moment, we get a new page:

note: these links were valid at the time the manual was released.
search results - lactacid
2 matches.
item # date time recs subject
000001 95/11/16 15:51 84 lab as contaminants.alcohol ferment.
000002 95/11/17 09:20 38 re: lab as contaminants.alcohol ferment.
item #1 (16 nov 1995 15:51) - lab as contaminants.alcohol ferment.
alcoholic content (8,5-10,5 % vol), but, of course have some problems
of bacterial infections (mostly lactic acid bacteria =lab, lactobacillus
fermentum and others).
if the lab is mixed with a lot of yeast would it be possible to use these
rapid methods ? what are the best selective culture media to grow
lactobacillus?
and elisa ?are there tests ready to use ?is there a firm that develops elisa
mechanism (or any other) studies ?is there anyone studying the proteins of
the cell walls of lactobacillus (are they lectins?).what about the
role of polysaccharides in the flocculation induced by lab ?
to control the growth of lab that cause yeast flocculation what do you
think about making co-cultures of other (not so harmful) lab that
synthetise bacteriocins ? is there any record of the development of
resistance to bacteriocins in lactobacillus ? are there labs that
produce several bacteriocins ? what about the commercial preparations
lab could anyone point out efficient products (and producers)
against lactobacillus ? what about biocides ?

amino-acids furnished by the yeasts?). is there anyone studying
co-cultures of lab + yeasts ?

item #2 (17 nov 1995 09:20) - re: lab as contaminants.alcohol ferment.
>if the lab is mixed with a lot of yeast would it be possible to use these
>rapid methods ? what are the best selective culture media to grow
lactobacillus?
>and elisa ?are there tests ready to use ?is there a firm that develops
>elisa

in order to read these two postings, it is now necessary only to click on
the appropriate hyperlink.

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date:         tue, 21 mar 2006 03:43:24 +0000
reply-to:     susmarine@comcast.net
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from:         susan marine <susmarine@comcast.net>
subject:      re: archive? (long and technical and boring.)
x-to:         jill certo <jillyc@hotmail.com>

thanks jilly much appreciated!

xoxo

sus


-------------- original message ----------------------
from: "jill certo" <jillyc@hotmail.com>
> sus asked:
>
> >does anyone know if it's possible to get a password to search through this
> >list's archives, and how i would do that? i need to find something posted
> >her ein like 1996...
>
> here you go.  it's long.  if you still need more info, or want to know how
> to do other fandangled things, go to
> http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/1.8d/user/user.html#2.11
>
> xo
> jill
>
>

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date:         mon, 20 mar 2006 23:18:47 -0500
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subject:      birthdays (march 20th - 26th, 2006)
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lots o' birthdays, a couple doubled up - potential for all manners of fun.  have a blast doing something you love in celebration!

march 21 ('73)
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march 21
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march 24 ('64)
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"i come to you with strange fire, i make an offering of love, the
incense of my soul is burned by the fire in my blood"

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march 26
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"...forget regret, or life is yours to miss...
no other road no other way, no day but today..."
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march 26 ('74)
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