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date:         mon, 9 oct 2006 16:42:49 -0700
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i found this revue on accident when i bought this week's advocate. here it is below. if you want to read it at www.theadvocate.com i'm sure it's there.they've got that picture of amy covering her face that's with the album liner notes.

barb

the advocate october 10th

grown-up girls

music

despite our differences

indigo girls  hollywood


"plenty of revolutions left until we get this thing right." so sings indigo girl emily saliers in this disc's first cut, "pendulum swinger," an unadulterated feminist call to arms replete with a radiant chorus, "she is." therein lies the continued relevence of saliers and her musical partner, amy ray, after 20 years of recording in that time their industructible idealism, tucked inside their signature folk pop,has rejuvenated progressive, gay, and female audiophiles seeking refuge from a socially and politically alienating culture.

save for cameo vocals by pink on ray's punk-pop tune "rock n'roll heaven's gate," there are no stylistic surprises,on this tenth set. just the same dedication to harmonies so intuitive that by now they're almost a member of the band. the girls, now in their early 40's, engage in backward glances and self assessment here, most poignantly on "lay my head down,"in which saliers sings about being ensnared at some insufferable shindig:" everyone's tied to their thing, to their past to their
drink,or the date that they bring.../i want to lay my head down on you." listeners will find similar contentment with this tender, oak-sturdy release. -karen tucker

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date:         mon, 9 oct 2006 16:59:04 -0700
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indigo girls are coming to you october 30th at the mankato civic center.

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date:         tue, 10 oct 2006 13:16:37 -0400
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hope this finds you well (stolen from carolyn)

is anyone taping this series on pbs - tivo ing, dvd recording,
whatever. it's truely great television and *i* missed the first
episode - it is considered the holy grail of civil rights
documentaries and has been out of print until this month

(vhs copies still go for close to a grand on ebay. it's related to
the fact the permissions for copyrights ran out and it took some
mucho $$ to get it re-broadcast)

did anyone get the first episode - i can record the others (tho it
does seem shortened from i think 12 hours to 8.)

my first born, some ig dvd boots, gratitiude...

(and i will whole heartedly bet amy and emily would recommend this
documentary - it is the most exhaustive doc on the civil rights
stuggle i have ever seen.)

and yes, it is only for my personal viewing. and comparing/
contrasting the pioneering civil rights struggle to the disability
rights stuggles of the past 35 yrs.

</geek activism>

mike r.

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date:         tue, 10 oct 2006 23:10:46 -0400
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i believe in love will be played during hour 2 of acoustic cafe =
beginning week 10-9 through 10/15.

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date:         wed, 11 oct 2006 00:57:23 -0400
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i don't really go to the bbs too often but i read recently that a bunch =
of  folks who are lucky enough to travel and take in several concerts =
during a tour made pendulum swinger shirts and also created a dance for =
the song and were reuniting in philly tonight.

we were sitting about 7 rows behind everyone wearing the shirts and it =
was such a kick!

jordan (my almost grown kiddo) & i met sandy (pipedreamer) & becca =
before the show b/c sandy had one of the shirts on and we knew to look =
for them. sandy taught us the dance and when they played pendulum =
swinger and everybody broke into the dance the look on amy's face was =
priceless!

we quick said hi to spike after the show. i recognized her from pics =
i've seen on the bbs. you guys are really creative & clever. amy & emily =
are lucky to have the best fans!

i don't have the setlist but they did play alot of the new songs and i =
enjoyed each one of them! highlights for me were pendulum swingers,r&r =
hg, dirt roads and dead ends, dairy queen and a blistering version of =
go. i'm dying to read the review of the concert in the philly paper (the =
inquirer, i doubt the daily news will even mention the concert)

so cool that i got to meet some people. everyone one looked like they =
had a blast!

lynne

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date:         wed, 11 oct 2006 07:08:35 -0400
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has anyone taped this pendulum swinger dance?  i'd love to see it.

jen

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date:         wed, 11 oct 2006 08:30:38 -0700
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http://www.pendulumswinger.com/
http://www.myspace.com/pendulum_swingers

on 10/11/06, jen cattin <jencattin@comcast.net> wrote:
> has anyone taped this pendulum swinger dance?  i'd love to see it.

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date:         wed, 11 oct 2006 12:01:26 -0400
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happy coming out day

(i had 3 teeth "come out" due to an infection, beat that you radical
activists... 8^))

he who needs sleep (or a call later from the philly concert)

mike r.

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interesting setlist. only three songs from before 1997. two of them were the
obvious (overplayed? obligatory?) ones.

now that suited me just fine, but i'm curious of what more causal fans might
have thought.

oh, and older guy crazydancing >> pendulum swingers.

that's it really,

neil

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i personally wish they would play some older stuff...there are so many songs
that would be amazing if they would take the advantage of having a band with
them to play them...

if you look back over the past week of shows they have thrown the wood song
in and three hits.  both of which i am praying for in northampton on
saturday...

i guess we'll have to wait and see....

on 10/11/06, neil hunt <neil@andineil.com> wrote:
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> interesting setlist. only three songs from before 1997. two of them were
> the
> obvious (overplayed? obligatory?) ones.
>
> now that suited me just fine, but i'm curious of what more causal fans
> might
> have thought.
>
> oh, and older guy crazydancing >> pendulum swingers.
>
> that's it really,
>
> neil
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i'm surprised to have not seen a post about the past weeks shows at
the tabernacle so i thought i'd write quickly.  below (in no order
what-so-ever except for how i remember them) are the songs they
played between both the shows on the 5th and 6th.  i think i covered
them all...

all of emily's new stuff
little perrenials
hammer and nail
kid fears (trina from three5human sang along)
galileo
chickenman/bitterroot
three hits
closer to fine
power of two
tether
let it ring
fill it up again
heartache for everyone
moment of forgiveness
go
trouble
ozaline
3-county highway
rock and roll heavens gate
money made you mean
shame on you
get out the map
the wood song
devotion

they rocked on go and trouble!  seeing them with a band instead of
just the two of them was very refreshing.  as much as i love them by
themselves it was time to start rocking again.  the final encore both
nights was tether.  trina from three5human joined them--man that
woman can sing!  also, cooper carter (russell carters son), who can't
be older than 16, came out and rocked on the guitar towards the end
of the song.  on friday night both he and amy were jumping all over
the place getting really into it.  it was amazing!  amy broke two
strings friday night (one during tether and one during something
else--can't remember what song but it was on her black martin).

the girls were in really good moods--not chatting with the crowd very
much but you could tell they were having a blast.  the show thursday
was definitely better than friday's, in my opinion.  they played more
of the older stuff and less new emily songs.  it seems that most of
friday's show was emily's new stuff which just isn't doing it for
me.  sucks to admit, i was actually tapping my foot out of boredom
waiting for better things to come during her songs.  both shows were
so much fun though and the crowd seemed pretty into it--especially
thursday night.  there was a lot of crowd talking however which was
annoying but all in all it was a blast.  the tabernacle is such a
great place to see a show like that.

laura

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date:         sat, 14 oct 2006 08:43:56 +1000
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hi kids,

here's an article from monstersandcritics.com.  you can read it online at:
http://music.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1210568.php/indigo_girls_ge=
t_po
litical_with_despite_our_differences_

cheers,
sherlyn

---begin forwarded article---
music news
indigo girls get political with 'despite our differences'
by jeff vrabel
oct 12, 2006, 19:00 gmt

twenty years - well, give or take a few - into a still-percolating career,=
the
indigo girls remain a little island of consistency in an aggressively
unpredictable industry. amy ray and emily saliers can boast 10 studio=
albums, a
fan base as faithful as such things come and a well-honed offensive strategy=
-
wholesome, earthen melodies from saliers, darker, rawer stuff from ray, and=
some
sort of freakishly automatic sense of silvery harmony between - that's been=

firmly set since their 1987 debut, 'strange fire.'

even if they weren't a subtle lefty folk outfit, this would be no small=
deal.
bands rise and evaporate faster than the blogs that track them these days;=
ray
laments the vanishing of several in her rock-out track "rock n' roll=
heaven's
gate," from the pair's new outing, 'despite our differences.'

"it's hard for bands now," said saliers. "radio is horrible, most of it. we=
just
came along at a good time and were able to ride a wonderful fan base."

indeed, the girls merely persist with a tasteful determination that's=
impressive
for its productive quietness. press materials pitch this as the girls' 20th=

year, a figure ray and saliers both dispute ("well, we started playing
professionally in high school in 1980, so ..." saliers said), and as such,
neither seems to have put a lot of planning time into the efficient=
arrangement
that is the indigo girls. it's just not something that's needed a lot of
tinkering.

which is not to say that for their 10th studio album, some changes weren't=
in
order. 'differences' marks the girls' first with hollywood records, having=
ended
their longtime association with epic last year. it's also their first with
producer mitchell froom, who added a live-in-studio vibe throughout sessions=
in
his santa monica home studios, a looseness amplified by the record's=
six-week
construction time.

"we usually take much longer to make a record," ray admitted, almost shyly.=

saliers is less diplomatic: "i was freaking out," she said.

but writing-wise, 'differences' sticks pretty close to the girls' playbook.=

fully intact are those harmonies, as well as their interest in their core
issues: gay rights, gender equality and social justice. "we're basic=
lefties,"
saliers said. "i think we ask very simple questions: who's being oppressed?=
why
are they being oppressed and how can we take part in alleviating that?"=
added
ray: "we're political. there are people who don't want to come see us, and
that's totally cool with me. but we try not to alienate."

still, if there's a surprise in 'differences,' it's the record's relative
absence of polarized politics. 'differences,' as the title infers, at least=

partly argues the girls' unease with the state of the union. but there's=
very
little overtness and not much attacking on the record; it's more concerned=
with
scraping out some senses of unity where feasible. "[the title] can describe=
the
differences between me and amy, and it has more global indications,=
obviously.
but we feel we're still in a situation where harmony can happen," saliers=
said.

given their lively activist history, it's either happy accident or savvy=
timing
that the girls' fall tour - their first with a full band in a few years -=
gets
underway at the same time as the fall election season. "i do sense a real=
shift
in the country," saliers said. "and we do have an ultimate hope that people=
can
get along at least better than they are now." but, she quickly added: "you=
know
what, it takes a change of administration, that's one thing."

though the girls' quieter musical half, saliers quickly gets animated when=
talk
turns to washington. "politically, what's gone on over the two past
administration periods has just been so devastating to me, and these=
[upcoming]
elections will be so important," she said. "the tide has to turn, and i=
believe
it can. but americans have to take responsibility for our role in the world:=
how
can we be part of the world community? if they take that to heart, we'll=
make
specific political changes."

it'd be misguided to expect a totally politics-free indigo record, and the=
lead
track, saliers' "pendulum swinger," does takes swipes at presidential
grandstanding ("it doesn't come by the bullwhip") and institutional sexism.=
but
the record's more concerned with ballads like "i believe in love," which=
reflect
saliers' longstanding tendency toward breezy balladry. ray's showstoppers=
are
first single "little perennials" and the ragged barnburner "rock n' roll
heaven's gate," a sonic cousin of the punkish material she stashed away for=
her
well-regarded solo records "stag" and "prom."

breakups are hardly new territory for the indigo girls, but they generally
involve families or relationships, not punk or new new wave bands. ray
explained: "there were some friends of mine in a band i'd played with called=
the
butchies, which sort of fell apart, and it was really hard on me. they were=
a
really important band for me - i felt they were carrying the torch of punk=
rock
for women at that moment. and le tigre disbanded recently, and that was hard=

too. i feel like it's hard to keep a band together anyway, especially when=
you
have a lot of hurdles. and i think women in rock have more hurdles than most=

people in music, even those with a little bit of success."

ray sees more diversity in the band's live audiences these days - not in=
race,
she says, so much as the ages and background of people who show up. "there's=

young people, and people who've grown older with us and bring their kids,"=
she
said. "and i think there was a time when, if you were a gay performer, it=
was
harder to get a diverse audience as far as sexual orientation goes, when the=
gay
movement hadn't progressed at all. and now in some areas, it's really mixed,=

really family oriented. that's great, because it means people are not afraid=
of
the association. at one time there was a stigma, and i'm sure there still=
is, in
some places. but it's gotten better."

but, she added quickly, both she and saliers are "short-term thinkers" when=
it
comes to their careers. saliers even professed to being shocked when=
hollywood
came calling once their epic deal was up. ray said she's mostly just=
thankful.
"but it seems if i stop and pat myself on the back long enough, it'll just=
fall
apart," she added, laughing.

today, those short-term goals are touring, the midterms and, in a couple of=

years, the next round. "i always feel good when i still feel like writing.
because you're always scared that you won't feel like it. i'm not scared of=

writer's block, i'm just scared of not having a desire to do it," said ray.=
"but
right now i do, and it feels good."

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date:         sat, 14 oct 2006 08:48:56 +1000
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hi folks,

here's a rview of the charleston show from the charleston post & courier.=
it's
online at
http://www.charleston.net/assets/webpages/departmental/news/stories.aspx?sec=
tion
=3dpreview&tableid=3d112678&pubdate=3d10/12/2006

cheers,
sherlyn

---begin forwarded article---
thursday, october 12, 2006 8:22 am

critic gives indigo girls 'hall' pass

by devin grant
special to the post and courier

listening to the weepies, the band that opened for the indigo girls saturday=

night at the charleston music hall, i was treated to one of the better=
similes
i've heard in awhile.

"i hung around like cigarette smoke on your jacket," was the lyric i'm=
talking
about, and it further drove home the beauty and braininess of the=
song-writing
duo of deb talan and steve tannen, who make up the weepies.

the duo has found some success since joining forces awhile back, including
getting one of their songs, "world spins madly on," played on the popular
television show "grey's anatomy." neither talan or tannen were able to see=
the
episode in which the song played, since neither owns a television, but as=
tannen
told the crowd before performing the song, "i got a call from my mom. i=
asked if
she saw the show, and she said, 'yes,' and that she had heard the song."=
tannen
then paused for effect before adding that his mother revealed that the song=
was
playing during a scene where two people were having sex in a closet. despite=
the
potential embarrassment he might have brought to his mother, tannen seemed
pretty happy about the song's placement in the tv show.

it was obvious by the end of its set that the weepies had earned more than a=
few
new fans in the lowcountry. the polite and enthusiastic applause that came=
with
the end of the weepies' set was soon lost to the cheers that erupted when=
amy
ray and emily saliers took to the stage, backed by a bassist, a drummer and=
a
multi-instrumentalist.

the band kicked into "pendulum swinger," the leadoff track from the latest
indigo girls cd, "despite our differences." ray and saliers stuck close to=
the
new disc for the first part of the show, performing songs such as "little
perennials" and "run," but the singer-songwriters didn't forget to include=
some
crowd favorites, including "shame on you" (which brought the crowd to its=
feet
early on) as well as "power of two" and "land of canaan."

although the show was top-notch, it seems that once again the rudeness of
charleston audiences was clearly evident. from where i was sitting i=
witnessed
one fan who was able to keep quiet only as long as it took ray and saliers=
to
play "closer to fine," which happened toward the end of the show. the rest=
of
the time she seemed more interested in chatting loudly with her friends. at=
one
point the brain trust began comparing boots, draping their feet over the=
seats
in front of them and loudly debating who had the cooler footwear.

then there was the statuesque blonde who decided to crash the stage.=
initially,
i had to give the girl credit. the indigo girls invited a group of women=
from
duke university up on stage to perform an a cappella version of "fill it up=

again." as the members of out of the blue, as the group called itself, began=
to
file on stage, that tall blonde decided that she would join the party, so=
with
purse and drink in hand she climbed the stairs of the stage and stood to one=

side of the singers, pausing once for a wave to her friends. once the=
members of
out of the blue began singing it was clear that the blonde was not a member=
of
the group, and yet she remained on stage for the entire song, watching the
performance. she might get a point or two for sheer nerve, but really,=
there's a
time to put the cocktails down, and it is normally before you decide to=
climb
onto a concert stage.

later in the show, ray invited the columbia-based singer-songwriter danielle=

howle to the stage. ray and howle played a song together, and then ray left=
the
stage while howle performed her own "faith," for which she received a strong=

round of applause.

after "closer to fine," which had the enthusiastic crowd all but drowning=
out
ray and saliers, the band ran through "go," as well as one of the new cd's=
more
beautiful songs, "i believe in love."

after closing the main set with "land of canaan," the indigo girls returned=
to
the stage and performed a powerful version of "tether," which featured a
gorgeous dual guitar solo from saliers and ray.

the duo then ended the show with "galileo," which once again brought the=
crowd
to its feet.

after a final "thanks, y'all," the indigo girls exited the stage.

the charleston music hall proved to be the perfect venue for the indigo=
girls.

the crowd was, for the most part, enthusiastic, with everyone from toddlers=
to
senior citizens being represented. the indigo girls are well liked here in
charleston, and the duo seems to genuinely enjoy performing in front of a
charleston crowd. in between songs, ray talked about the good old days of
playing at cafe 99, downtown.

it is comforting to see that while ray and saliers have gone on to fame and=

fortune with their music, they haven't forgotten their lean days.

devin grant can be reached at chucktowncritic@yahoo.com.

this article was printed via the web on 10/13/2006 6:48:10 pm . this=
article
appeared in the post and courier and updated online at charleston.net on
thursday, october 12, 2006.


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did anyone watch our girls on the view this morning? i wasn't there this morning but i taped it and watched that. i was wonderring what everyone thought of them not having their band on as well.

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>did anyone watch our girls on the view this morning? i wasn't there this
>morning but i taped it and >watched that. i was wonderring what everyone
>thought of them not having their band on as well.

gotta love tivo.  just watched ig's performance on the view (after quickly
fast forwarding through the first 50 minutes of the show).  i love when they
are on the view because they get interviewed, even if only for a minute.
guest host, carnie wilson and rosie o'donnell did the interview.  both
gushed about being big fans and carnie complimented how great their
harmonies are to which amy replied it was a big compliment coming from her
(didn't realize amy was a wilson phillips fan but i digress).  the interview
revealed nothing anyone on this list didn't already know--friends since age
10, stay close by staying apart when not touring etc etc.  girls sang little
perrenials without the band.  i am a much bigger fan of this song's studio
version so do wish the band was present.  they sounded good otherwise.  i
seem to recall joking from their last the view performance about how the
producers kept editing images of amy's face into odd ball places.  last
time, they kept putting amy's face into the round section of the drums and
it looked so bizarre.  this time it was the same random editing with amy
singing from a fake picture frame.  the editing booth must get bored as how
much can you really do with joy behar.  :)

a final comment which may get me flamed.  i realize part of ig's charm to
their fan base is being themselves and out of social norms.  and they are
rock stars after all.   but, can they try to dress up just a little for tv
appearances?  i mean emily wore a tight, wrinkled t-shirt that looked like
she just rolled out of bed.  is there any occasion that a rock star should
dress up for?  i mean what would they wear to a wedding?  i'm not suggesting
they thrown on an evening gown but ellen looks a lot better dressed on tv.
just hate it when they look so frumpy--maybe it's the gay male within that
is critiquing.  flame away :)   greg

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lm> from: laura mclane <lmmclan@emory.edu>
lm>
lm> i'm surprised to have not seen a post about the past weeks shows at
lm> the tabernacle
.
. between the two nights, they played all the new stuff except "they won't
have me" (which i had been looking forward to).  slipping in and out of
falsetto wasn't nearly so effortless for emily in one-take live renditions
of "i believe in love" and "fly away".  both numbers were still great, but
it sounds so smooth on the cd that you forget how difficult it really is to
do all in one musical phrase.
.
. i thought the first show performance was better but the audience was a
little dead.  the second night i didn't think they were quite the as juiced
but the crowd was insane.  a venue like the tabernacle has so much energy
that for all those sing-along numbers, the crowd winds up overpowering the
performers on stage.  the best part for me was the new songs that the crowd
didn't know yet and had to listen more.
.
. always love hearing "ozilline", "wood song".  "three hits" was nice, but
not for both nights.  could have done without "moment of forgiveness" and
"go" doesn't really do much for me.  trina meade was great as the third
voice on "kid fears" and is a perfect fit for the gospel-tinged "tether";
her voice is so strong it nearly overpowers amy and emily together.
.
. the weepies didn't do much for me as openers, but then roman candle the
next night was even more forgetable.
.
. two great shows in the best place in town to see them these days.
.
.
-- ron
.
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bb> from: barb bordner <ritesofpassage04@netscape.com>
bb>
bb> did anyone watch our girls on the view this morning?
.
. i was glad they got to have a mini-interview (with rosie o'donnell and
guest host carnie wilson) besides just perform their song ("little
perennials").  i always think they come across as stiff when they perform
on tv.  i also don't think that song works as well without a band (the drum
and hand claps) to make it seem peppier.  i'd rather they were performing
"i believe in love" (with the unexpected use of ukelele) or "lay my head
down" (which i think is the most soaring track that has a great harmony
vocal from amy).  if you're not already an ig fan, this performance didn't
offer anything to convert you or draw you back if you've left the fold.
"money made you mean" would have been a nice jolt as well, the kind of song
i always felt a corporate decision from epic would never have allowed to be
the featured track.
.
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no flame here greg! i couldn't agree more, i just watched it on dvr ( i love
it too!) and said the exact same thing !
it was taped on wed, the morning after the philly show so maybe they _did_
just roll out of bed. emily looks great live, i thought she looked so good
tuesday night, why not show it off just a little for the masses!  they don't
have to go all x-tina but isn't the reason they are even bothering to
promote the cd is to sell more of them? on the other hand i could argue for
going against the tide in this looks obsessed society but then i'm a pisces,
i'm wishy-washy.

and i thought it was just nice southern gal manners that amy complimented
carnie back. amy probably doesn't own a wilson-philips cd but they were
known for their sweet/sappy harmonies back when they were top of the charts
and carnie _can_ carry a tune +  plus her family legacy...... both a+e are
very humble & tend to reflect praise back.
l.

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i tivo'd it as well.  i didn't think it was worth watching.  they played one of my least favorites on dod.  didn't expect to hear rrhg or ps, but they could have played i believe in love.  i don't know...i was just disappointed in it.

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did anyone watch our girls on the view this morning? i wasn't there this morning but i taped it and watched that. i was wonderring what everyone thought of them not having their band on as well.

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i like joy!  and i did watch most of the 50 minutes prior to ig playing.  frankly, i enjoyed the first 50 minutes more!

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>did anyone watch our girls on the view this morning? i wasn't there this
>morning but i taped it and >watched that. i was wonderring what everyone
>thought of them not having their band on as well.

gotta love tivo.  just watched ig's performance on the view (after quickly
fast forwarding through the first 50 minutes of the show).  i love when they
are on the view because they get interviewed, even if only for a minute.
guest host, carnie wilson and rosie o'donnell did the interview.  both
gushed about being big fans and carnie complimented how great their
harmonies are to which amy replied it was a big compliment coming from her
(didn't realize amy was a wilson phillips fan but i digress).  the interview
revealed nothing anyone on this list didn't already know--friends since age
10, stay close by staying apart when not touring etc etc.  girls sang little
perrenials without the band.  i am a much bigger fan of this song's studio
version so do wish the band was present.  they sounded good otherwise.  i
seem to recall joking from their last the view performance about how the
producers kept editing images of amy's face into odd ball places.  last
time, they kept putting amy's face into the round section of the drums and
it looked so bizarre.  this time it was the same random editing with amy
singing from a fake picture frame.  the editing booth must get bored as how
much can you really do with joy behar.  :)

a final comment which may get me flamed.  i realize part of ig's charm to
their fan base is being themselves and out of social norms.  and they are
rock stars after all.   but, can they try to dress up just a little for tv
appearances?  i mean emily wore a tight, wrinkled t-shirt that looked like
she just rolled out of bed.  is there any occasion that a rock star should
dress up for?  i mean what would they wear to a wedding?  i'm not suggesting
they thrown on an evening gown but ellen looks a lot better dressed on tv.
just hate it when they look so frumpy--maybe it's the gay male within that
is critiquing.  flame away :)   greg

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hello all ... i just re-joined the list after a long absence and i was
wondering if anyone out there has the clip of "the view". i missed it yesterday  -
i love it when your friends call you 4 hours later and asked if you saw it  ...

going to see ig tonight in noho !!! whooo hooooo

thanks

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here ya go!
http://emilyevangelist.livejournal.com/119554.html

on 10/14/06, chris antolini <guinione@aol.com> wrote:
>
> hello all ... i just re-joined the list after a long absence and i was
> wondering if anyone out there has the clip of "the view". i missed it
> yesterday  -
> i love it when your friends call you 4 hours later and asked if you saw
> it  ...
>
> going to see ig tonight in noho !!! whooo hooooo
>
> thanks
>
> chris
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yeah i was really dissappointed that they didn't have the band and that they chose little perrenials....but i guess we can expect to hear those songs repeatedly on tv since it looks like that's what ig are pushing this time...little perrenials and pendulum swinger....oh well.and appearing as just a duo isn't doing a whole lot to change their image as "folk singers" (which i have a problem with because it doesn't do them justice, not as many people go to the folk bins in the music shopps. they do do some accoustic stuff, but i believe there is a difference between accoustic music, and folk. and the girls are definitely more rock oriented inmho.)

barb

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>did anyone watch our girls on the view this morning? i wasn't there this
>morning but i taped it and >watched that. i was wonderring what everyone
>thought of them not having their band on as well.

gotta love tivo.  just watched ig's performance on the view (after quickly
fast forwarding through the first 50 minutes of the show).  i love when they
are on the view because they get interviewed, even if only for a minute.
guest host, carnie wilson and rosie o'donnell did the interview.  both
gushed about being big fans and carnie complimented how great their
harmonies are to which amy replied it was a big compliment coming from her
(didn't realize amy was a wilson phillips fan but i digress).  the interview
revealed nothing anyone on this list didn't already know--friends since age
10, stay close by staying apart when not touring etc etc.  girls sang little
perrenials without the band.  i am a much bigger fan of this song's studio
version so do wish the band was present.  they sounded good otherwise.  i
seem to recall joking from their last the view performance about how the
producers kept editing images of amy's face into odd ball places.  last
time, they kept putting amy's face into the round section of the drums and
it looked so bizarre.  this time it was the same random editing with amy
singing from a fake picture frame.  the editing booth must get bored as how
much can you really do with joy behar.  :)

a final comment which may get me flamed.  i realize part of ig's charm to
their fan base is being themselves and out of social norms.  and they are
rock stars after all.   but, can they try to dress up just a little for tv
appearances?  i mean emily wore a tight, wrinkled t-shirt that looked like
she just rolled out of bed.  is there any occasion that a rock star should
dress up for?  i mean what would they wear to a wedding?  i'm not suggesting
they thrown on an evening gown but ellen looks a lot better dressed on tv.
just hate it when they look so frumpy--maybe it's the gay male within that
is critiquing.  flame away :)   greg

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dude... "little perennials" is the single.  of course they're going to play
that one.  it's all about promotion.  as much as i'd love to hear "they
won't have me" or "dirt and dead ends" (my two faves from dod), it's not
gonna happen on a tv apperance where they can only play one song.

i wasn't too unhappy with the fashion choices.  my biggest complaint was
carnie (sp?) not doing her homework ("one album every year") and the editing
during "little perennials."  that was god-awful.

i really can't stand the view in general.  though, i was happy to see ig get
some tv time.  it seems like tbe view is the only show that consistently
gives it to them.

on 10/14/06, barb bordner <ritesofpassage04@netscape.com> wrote:
>
> yeah i was really dissappointed that they didn't have the band and that
> they chose little perrenials....but i guess we can expect to hear those
> songs repeatedly on tv since it looks like that's what ig are pushing this
> time...little perrenials and pendulum swinger....oh well.and appearing as
> just a duo isn't doing a whole lot to change their image as "folk singers"
> (which i have a problem with because it doesn't do them justice, not as many
> people go to the folk bins in the music shopps. they do do some accoustic
> stuff, but i believe there is a difference between accoustic music, and
> folk. and the girls are definitely more rock oriented inmho.)
>
> barb
>
> --- gflamer@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> from: greg flamer <gflamer@hotmail.com>
> to: indigo-girls@lists.netspace.org
> subject: re: ig on the view
> date:         sat, 14 oct 2006 00:07:32 +0000
>
> >did anyone watch our girls on the view this morning? i wasn't there this
> >morning but i taped it and >watched that. i was wonderring what everyone
> >thought of them not having their band on as well.
>
> gotta love tivo.  just watched ig's performance on the view (after quickly
> fast forwarding through the first 50 minutes of the show).  i love when
> they
> are on the view because they get interviewed, even if only for a minute.
> guest host, carnie wilson and rosie o'donnell did the interview.  both
> gushed about being big fans and carnie complimented how great their
> harmonies are to which amy replied it was a big compliment coming from her
> (didn't realize amy was a wilson phillips fan but i digress).  the
> interview
> revealed nothing anyone on this list didn't already know--friends since
> age
> 10, stay close by staying apart when not touring etc etc.  girls sang
> little
> perrenials without the band.  i am a much bigger fan of this song's studio
> version so do wish the band was present.  they sounded good otherwise.  i
> seem to recall joking from their last the view performance about how the
> producers kept editing images of amy's face into odd ball places.  last
> time, they kept putting amy's face into the round section of the drums and
> it looked so bizarre.  this time it was the same random editing with amy
> singing from a fake picture frame.  the editing booth must get bored as
> how
> much can you really do with joy behar.  :)
>
> a final comment which may get me flamed.  i realize part of ig's charm to
> their fan base is being themselves and out of social norms.  and they are
> rock stars after all.   but, can they try to dress up just a little for tv
> appearances?  i mean emily wore a tight, wrinkled t-shirt that looked like
> she just rolled out of bed.  is there any occasion that a rock star should
> dress up for?  i mean what would they wear to a wedding?  i'm not
> suggesting
> they thrown on an evening gown but ellen looks a lot better dressed on tv.
> just hate it when they look so frumpy--maybe it's the gay male within that
> is critiquing.  flame away :)   greg
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from what i heard, most of the time bands arent even given a choice
of what to play, ani cancelled a letterman appearence because they
told her she could not play a specific song.

in 92 or 93, nirvana sang half a verse of rape me before they tore
into i think smells like teen spirit, only to be threatened with
never appearing on mtv again. mtv rethought it when they knew they'd lose $$

elvis costello refused mtv's request to do all his hits on unplugged
(rightfully so - his catalogue has gems that were never singles.)
they aired it once.


jsyk

mike r.

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last monday oct. 9 was the baltimore show.  thanks to
spike for hooking me up with a ticket!  it was great
meeting her, boot trading bonster and many others.

i always prefer the acoustic shows, but with songs
like "rock and roll heaven's gate" they pretty much
need the band, right?  :-)  the highlight of the show
for me was...devotion.  i love that song and it was
great to hear it live.  there were a couple of extra
microphones set up so i was hoping against hope that
i'd be hearing finlandia, finally, but curses...foiled
again.

amy's black guitar had a big boo-boo.  she said it
broke and the tech glued it back together but the glue
wasn't dry, so it looked like it was held together
with blue painter's tape.  i hope he used the kind for
delicate surfaces!!  amy said she liked how it looked
and might leave it like that.

regarding dod, overall i like it.  sure it takes a
while to get used to the new songs, but soon enough
we'll be belting them out at shows like galileo and
ctf.  i thought "lay my head down" was interesting
because it has a waltz tempo, and i hear ya emily, i
get tired too of being at parties like that!  lol  i
like the line, "well everything that's come before us
leads to where we are now..." but i have to admit that
i about busted a gut the first time i heard the
falsetto "hookers!!"

like others have mentioned, for me the "skip" songs
are "fly away" and "dirt and dead ends", but i will
give them a chance.

have a good weekend all and keep the concert reports
coming,

sue

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